March 5, 2026 • 37 mins
Kevin and Casey finally tackle the children’s song that conquered the planet: Baby Shark. With a brutally honest nine-year-old guest in the studio, they investigate whether it’s a timeless kids’ classic, a New Order synth ripoff, or just a song designed to slowly melt parents’ brains. Between fart logic, daycare shoutouts, Hamilton debates, and an unexpected lyrical analysis of shark politics, the real question remains—does Baby Shark deserve a chance, or should it swim back into the abyss?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Give it a chance, give it a chance, Give it
a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Come on and give it a chance.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Give it a chance, give it a chance, give it
a come on and give it. You want to give
it a chance, Give it a chance, Give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Just chancers, chancers, chancers. It's a snow day here in Brooklyn.
It's a snow day here in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Have yours ever met? Not in person, but I've seen
a lot of videos of you, and you've probably seen
a ton of videos of me, because that Kevin shares,
shares all the videos I send him. I'm sure have
you seen a ton of videos of Casey? No, I
don't think, of course, the answer is no, of course not.
(00:48):
My development is not as important.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, listen, that's debatable. I mean, look, I love you,
but I also love him.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He is my son and your brother. Surprise. That's what
this is all about. No, no, no, that's not sure. That's
not true. That's a job. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So chances we have a special guest today, at Casey's recommendation.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
There's a human child joining us, and and this is important.
We wanted you for a lot of reasons. One, you've
got the skills, we've we've I've seen you on those
videos that you've sent and you from the eighties. Gifted. Yeah,
you're gifted. You're a gift. You're a gifted person. Now
(01:34):
the other reason why is because we are going to
talk about the song baby Shark, which you're you're an
older How old are you now, Edie.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Nine and eleven twelfth or twelve eleven twelve?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, that's how you know you're big. But I assume
I'm making an assumption that this song is sort of
over for you, right like this that's more of like
a toddler song. Absolutely, but I'm sure there was a
time and tell me if you remember, was there a
time where you did like this song? Yo?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I So here's where I have to step in and
say did I Yeah, of course you did like but no,
I don't know. I don't know what time, I don't
know what year. We'll find out. So basically, also I
should quickly say to you what we do on Give
It a Chance is we listen to songs, even if
they're super like popular songs. There are songs that maybe
(02:29):
people think are like cheesy or lame or corny or cringe.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Maybe it's like.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why did you cringe because I'm forty six, But we
try to find something we think is cool or redeeming
about the song.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So Baby Shark.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Baby Shark was like hugely popular, but I can't remember
when it was out twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Twenty fifteen is when it dropped. But I think it's
children's songs like this are timeless, like you know, like
it's it's like a London bridge is falling down. It's
like it's if any kid is like, oh that came
out when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Totally it's forever. And so it's like Drake forever. And
there is a debate like did Eminem have the best
verse on that was the Wayne people?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Did?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Kanye re wrote his first after we heard Eminem's verse, I.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Go way song to rappers, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, so we do, so we do. It's rangey.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's rangey, but so the the but you dropped in
twenty sixteen, so Baby Sharks older than you. But it
was definitely a feature of your first definitely the first
daycare you ever went to. Shout out to do you
remember what it was called? Family Bayridge Family Daycare.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Shout Out Tokay, shout out a big sponsor, sponsor.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Big sponsor of the pod. They closed in twenty nineteen
Rest in Peace, Bay.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Ridge Family, but they're still sponsoring us. But they are sponsors,
and it's those sort of ideas that it was sort
of why their business didn't. Really that's why we have
the pod. Game in a Choke is for those kinds
of we're choking, we're choking out daycare.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ourselves, We're choking ourselves. But yeah, so I definitely know
you loved Baby Shark when you were like two three.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, there was a whole thing, whole dance with your arms,
but you don't remember that. You remember the dance? Can
you show us the dance?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The dance. I remember that there was a dance that's audible.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I can't imagine that's audible. It is. I'm hearing it,
all right, Great, no more questions answers. I'm also going
to pull the curtain back a little bit because a
few things. We had recorded an entire episode of this song,
like in early season one. Yes, and I am often
responsible for hitting the record button, and I did not
(04:48):
do that the day that we recorded this, so we
we It's funny because I forgot everything we said about
this and I'm glad it's almost like kiss Met in
that we now have.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Kiss all the Mets, every New York.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Every minute, kiss met And but it's it's worked out.
It's fate that we we get to do it again
with somebody who was actually influenced by this song, whether
they want to admit it or not.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yo, right, Yeah, like whether you want to deny it,
admit it. And you know what they say about whoever
denied it, supply it, supplied it, dude, complained?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Do you know that? Does that? The kids still say that?
All right? So if like Casey farted right, mm hmmm,
which happens he has.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Farted before, not on the pond, but like in life at.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Least, maybe SBD SBD silence. Do you know what that is? Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Kids today, dude you repeat that SBD.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Silent but deadly. Do you know what that would mean?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I know that, I know that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I just didn't know it was initials its initials.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, once you start using it enough, you have to,
you know, you got to abbreviate it as much which
as possible.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, you gotta breathe as much as pass.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So are you taking you know? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's just to say we have to finish this. If
you farted right, okay I said, or you said O
case you farted right, and then Casey said, no, I didn't.
Then I could say whoever denied it supplied it. But
then you could say whoever smelted delt it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, she know, she know? Oh you do. Okay. So
that's what's going on. Lots of our talk, lots of
Baby Shark waiting in the way, and that's what this
podcast is, and that's what people listen for. And that's uh.
And now we're going to jump into the song. We're
gonna listen to it, all right, and and uh, then
(06:45):
we will discuss. Okay, you're up for the task, Eadie.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I guess ringing endorsement pod game in a choke
called all right, so Baby Shark, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Going pink fong and I always The other thing is
I always watched the video.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Casey always watches the video.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I always just listen to music and then we compare
you ready, all right, go three two?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now baby checked it, Baby checked it, Baby shirk.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Wow, Okay, we are back. Wow. Lot a lot, a
lot to discuss, a lot to love. I will start
with the reason why we did. This is because you know, historically,
when kids like a song, they ask for it over
and over again, and parents are often like, I can't
believe I have to listen to this song again, right,
that's like a trope. His parents have to like deal
and listen to the song. And then it does get
(07:33):
to a point where a kid might go, I'm I'm
not a baby anymore. I don't want baby Shark, and
the parents are kind of like, I kind of miss
baby Shark. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, And that's where I'm
at now. I almost feel like the last time we
listened to it, she was still like, still like it.
My daughter, who is four, was still liking it, and
now she's like, I don't like that song. She actually
I told her that we were doing this podcast and
(07:54):
asked her if she wanted to join, and she said
no and no meaning no she didn't want to and no,
she doesn't like it. She is onto a song right
now that is I think maybe worse, which is I'm
a gummy bear. I'm a gummy bear and it's like goods, goods, goods.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and you know, so you can talk about it
if you want to. Edie definitely had a passage with
Gummy Bear and I don't want to blow you up,
but I have to. I have to offer this. Gummy
Bear had a song called about the pacifying and it
was called nookie like Fred.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Durst, Yeah, like fred Durston Olympus.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And but that's I guess maybe that's called that in
some places. I don't know, but that was a part
of Edie's I was gonna say nightmare blunt rotation, bedtime
song rotation.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
For a little while where it would.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Be like, yo, this isn't a psychotic arrangement of songs.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That definitely is very it was.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was collaborative, but a lot of me it was
like the softness of it. I think we did.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We definitely did that.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It was like after school play on my computer, my nook.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He never leaves my mouth.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Wow, So I still know, but it's to the I
still know all of it. And then it was also
like Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston. It was like a very
soft song thing. And then like when she was like
six and a half, one night she just went like, hey,
I don't need to just sing to me anymore, I know,
and I was like okay, and then I like left
the room I was like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You take a hit, you take it eat. They don't.
They don't realize. The other thing is like big al
for dad who was in your bloot rotation, Big yeah yeah.
But so like I was thinking about this because it
feels like yesterday obviously that Marie was listening to these songs.
I'm sure similar with Eadie. But a child's life is
(09:49):
like it's it's so scrunched down compared to ours totally,
So like an hour in a car is like especially
as like even a younger age and Eadie it's a
portion of their life totally, so it feels crazy, whereas
for an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
In ten years is a lot different than an hour
in forty six years.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
R you know, do you know? Do you get it?
Like you get it? What CPA's outside.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I will just say yeah, yeah, just on that front,
that's totally true and just it's also wild because I
remember so much stuff that I always ask you, like
do you remember that? And you're like, no, dude, I
was four, you know what I mean? Like the memories.
I feel like your memories are like fuzzy back then.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I have memory loss.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I don't have.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Actually, there are some great dementia meds that are also
sponsors of this pod.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm sure I probably Wait, so Eadie, what are your
thoughts on Baby I need to get back to Baby Sharks?
So hearing it? Sorry here a headphone was out, So
hearing Baby Shark again all over again? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
So basically.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The lyrics. I was listening to them. The first part
where they were introducing the family. It was fine, some voices,
they were voices, but at the last part, something like
it sounded so terrifying. It was like it sounded like
someone was like getting stalked.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, yo, exactly, that's there. All of a sudden, the
whole family of sharks goes hunting and then what So
keep sorry, keep knowing. My curiosity is. I also have
to point out to the listener that, of course that
my child immediately is like the lyrics. Let's break down
the lyrics. I feel like, as a trope of.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
This, how often does daddy talk about Leonard Cohen, Nirvana
and Elliott Smith.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Nirvana and Elliott Smith.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I have heard about him a lot, and the other
guy I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, all right, yeah, Leonard Cohen hasn't reached it yet.
But the hierarchy of beads.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
For dad, yeah, okay, this is great, this is good,
and we'll come back to those. I'd love to get
your perspective on those artists. But for Baby Shark purposes,
what I have a question for both of you about
is do you feel like so when the tempo change
and key change happens and run away, now we're safe.
So that's the moment where the narrative shifts to the
(12:29):
perspective of the fish being hunted, right, Well, it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Was always through to the narratives, like they are they are
meeting all these people, right, so the perspective is the
fish going, oh, look, there's baby shark, there's Mommy shark.
And then they're singing along and then it's just like, well,
maybe you're right, because it does switch to let's go
hunt and then run away. That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I thought they were introducing themselves and then let's go hunt.
And then when the tempo and key changes, then it's
the other that's the like the guppy, the the goldy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know, unless it doesn't switch, it's actually they're turning
on themselves, so like they're all hunting themselves, you know,
sort of like how nowadays, like a political family that's
torn between different sides will just sort of start to
eat themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know about that? Yeah, yeah, And nowadays everybody used
to talk, but they've got something to say, don't go yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So unless that's so, maybe maybe it's like, let's go
hunt their hunting, really hunting each other because of the
their their different views about the political economic situations that
are happening under the water, under the sea, And then
it's possible that then then they're like, Okay, it's the end.
It's the end, it's the end, And that's that's actually foretelling.
(13:45):
It's no, it's foretelling of what our society is about collapsing.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
What do you think about that take? That's why he's
won several peabodies as as a podcasters pod bodies. The
pod bodies have been piling up. He's got the pod
getting a chocolate go ahead, go ahead, good.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It is the one thing to say about that. I
honestly think that is a very low possibility because this
is a kid's song. Wow, it would have that like
deep meaning.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, look at animal farm. Okay, look at animal farm. Right,
everyone thought it was a kid's book, But.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You've read George Orwell's Animal Farm, right, and that miss
hasn't given you that, okay, you know, shout out to
miss another sponsor, another sponsor. I'm EADI divide his fourth
grade teacher, and I sponsored give it a chance. I
(14:47):
feel like I like what Casey did there. I like
the depths. He plumbed the depths and that's important to do.
Exit Gesis is next to me sis. But I do
think that I feel like what I liked on the
order of chance, giving it a chancy for me. That
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could be what's going on, or it could be a
you know, sometimes Freud has said a cigar is just
a cigar, right, you know that you've learned that, what
so I do think it's like sometimes a rose is
just a rose. Sometimes in this song, it could be
it could be that they're eating each other, that they're
falling apart kind of bliz. Yeah, it could be that,
(15:33):
Or it could be we were introduced to each member
of the family and then the gupy the gold all
of them are like and that's the moment where I
like that. The key change and tempo change indicates like,
you know, it's like a yeah, or they're swimming really fast,
and it's like anxious, fearful. Your heart rate moves faster
(15:58):
when you're moving faster, right, you're so. I thought that
was a cool feature of the song that, like the
track actually mirrors the story. I thought that was cool.
But with him that could just oh no, he's with me,
or as answer, that could just be me. But I
also wanted to just quickly say something a little off topic,
but we can stay on topic case I had a question.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh no, no, I guess what I like, I was gonna
say another chancey As the voices build as to this,
as does the music, you know, like it starts pretty
simple and then like that high hat comes in. That's
so nice. That's that's a really nice moment, and then
it just builds up the dances do too, like there's
this really fun like, oh, I will go back to
(16:37):
the video. Yeah yeah I did. I'll go back to
what Edie said before, which was like, oh yeah, we
can watch it again.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Like another time, another time, like to like I saw
even like a year or.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Two go ahead when we revisit no for the anniversary
of this app at the Bounce Ballroom, Well yeah, next
no day, the voices you brought up before. It's so true,
Like that daddy voice is so strange. It's like, no, sure,
I can't even do it. It sounds like a ghost
from like the nineteen twenties, like you like.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
A cartoon Dracula, like I've your blood.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, it's like Daddy's shark.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, sounds like it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You can say my speech a drunk opera singer.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
To me, yess opera singer. You're pardoned, by the way.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's accurate. And then there's like a grandma and grandpa
shark and they have this sort of like gum like
kids put their teeth away.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I was doing that. I have a question though,
from from a from a young kid's perspective, do you
think that's what? For instance, like you have a dad,
I do have a dad. You have two grandmas? Do
have two?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Your two?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Grandpa's rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But is that what you think?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like? Do I so like the Do I sound like
Don Pardo?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
All right, I think you know that, But I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know what the world sounds like.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You're fishing. He's fishing for a compliment right now, he's fishing.
Do I sound better than them?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Nope? Harding my speech. But that's super all right, So
I just wanted to know if that's And do you
feel like your grandma's talk like that? Oh worried it's
me Nana and me me. No, okay, not really. Do
(18:38):
you feel like your dad talks like that?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Casey, No, No, My dad's very like monotone. He talks
like this. So it's daddy Shark. He can be like
Daddy Shark. Daddy Shark. He loses his voice. It's like
he's at a place when there's like more than ten
people and he has to talk to someone. He like
loses his voice right away. He's like, so monitor, yeah,
(19:03):
he's got to leave, all right. What else?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I don't mean to keep pulling us off. Oh there
is one thing I do, like we do have to
tell Casey, just on the subject of nightmare blunt.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Rotations, what I do often suggest?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What do I ask you to do? Often in the
streets of Bay Ridge, when we pass a law like
what about or people standing outside?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He asked me, I don't know if this is right,
because give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Sometimes when we pass people in the street, or we
pass like a bar, he asked me, go inside. Or
go to the person and ask for a sig, like
I do you want to?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And have you ever done it? Nope?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
All right, and has anyone? But so I want I'm
interested in the social experiment case. I want to give
people a chance in general in this life.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I'm a sponsor of this program as well. Give
people a chance. But I just want to see what
would happen. I want to see what would happen if
like a nine year old I did it when you
were like six. I want to see if like someone
would be like looking for me, or if someone would
be like all right and just like you know, it's
a real scale test too, like what what level where
the person's at? None of the bar who's going to
(20:23):
be like, yeah, sure, no problem.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Bay Ridges it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Bay Ridge is fifty to fifty. It's a coin flip
for show. But anyway, yeah, you like something could share
with the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, people don't send their kids to get SIGs anymore,
that's yo.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But that's literally there was a time, like I bet
when Nana was a kid. It's not inconceivable that's like
her dad might have sent her to the store to
get like the newspaper of some bread and a pack
of cigarettes, like in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And it's like get a Hershey bar for yourself for
the trouble, but bring back my change.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
That sounds all right though, right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That was that was what it was. And now kids
they're on Baby Shark all day. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You can't even leave the house because you're like baby.
You're like Harvey Kaite Tell and bad Lieutenant, just.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like Baby Shark, Baby Shark. What music are you listening
to now, Edie Hamilton? Wow? Really, that's your dad's least
favorite genre.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I brain rotted him.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Our friend of the program, Chris O'Brien cephas how many?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
How many? How many?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And the high chiefs, how many Hamilton's stickers do you
presently have on your portable water bottle?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Can I get it?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's not here?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Five?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think it's five?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Would be under five to ten?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, I have five?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I counted.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He saw the water bottle. We were all together on Saturday,
and he counted. They counted it together, and then he
turned to me and he said, justice is funny, dude.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Just this is I don't know, it's this Hamilton's educational.
It's got a lot of value to it in that way.
I feel like that's of kids of songs that you
could be listening to our genres, you could go down.
I think that's that's a safe one. It's I think
as a parent, you got to be pretty happy about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I would say this, I managed to avoid Hamilton for
ten years of its existence. And we've talked about this
before on the pod. That's why cases bringing it up.
It was I have I have some probably boring, not
necessary for us to go through on the pod thoughts
about the some of my I have some issues with
(22:39):
like the politics of Hamilton frankly, but but I'd also
never really listened to it. And what I could say
now is, having spent the better part of the last
would you say, two years year, really uh, really in
deep with it. It's not without its charms. I know
(23:02):
every and I also feel like I probably now know
at least to the first half of the record. I
don't like the cues.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I don't like Yeah, there's a lot. Have you
watched it or just listened?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I watched it and I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's on streamer right, It's on so you can. I
want you guys to see it. I didn't see it
in person. I think I watched it when it came out,
and yeah, I get it. I like it. There's elements
there that are that are fun. It's tendencies, tendencies, there's
things that I definitely well, you know, as the parlance
(23:39):
cringe at, but I think it's you know, you know
what it is sometimes when sometimes like people will ruin
art for the artist, and there was just so many
like clips of people like you know, all over the
country making like their version with their whole family, and
it's just like when you see that so many times,
it's like, oh my gosh, and you're like, okay, like
(24:01):
this is great. The whole family comes together, they're having fun.
I should I should applaud that. I should give that
a chancy, But it's it's tough. It's sometimes tough to stomach,
you know, and you just gotta close your eyes, yo. Totally.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And also like he's he's clearly very talented, clearly doesn't
care what I think nor we'll ever find out. But
he's a little hard. He's a high he's a high hurdle.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He's a h He also wrote I've been staring at
the edge of the water young as I can remember.
That's a great tune. She's yeah, it didn't write that song.
He wrote the whole all the music he did. You're Welcome,
which is You're Welcome is great, very Lynn.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
We've talked about You're Welcome before on this podcast because
I think I said that it's the most It's the
song in the Disney canon that I could hear slightly
repurposed and on a Saddle Creek record in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, but yeah, I would say, what would you say
Hamilton's the favorite?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And would you what would you say your favorite song
from Hamilton is if I had to like? Yeah, two
part question, favorite song from Hamilton?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I don't have a favorite song.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Pick top three?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
It can't.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
All right, you're about to get booted off this podcast, dude.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Because honestly, you need to have hard opinions takes.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's a long musical, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Warm take doesn't even have to be a hot take.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, it could just be like Luke warm take about Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You get to decide for you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Are you running out of steam? Are you done with
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Okay, it doesn't mean you have to be like it's
my absolute favorite, but it's like, what are some that
are in the mix for you?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Sisters? The Sisters one three.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Three one, the Scuttle Sisters.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
All right, sad as satisfied, the world turned upside down
the room where it happened. See, I know in case
I've been given it a chance.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's amazing. You've turned, You've changed.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You've changed, you have tendencies. Would you say, uh oh?
Would you say Aaron Burser? All right, there you go
before we move forward? Is there anything you'd like to
perform from Hamilton for the podcast before we continue moving?
Are you sure? Because we could be the Wee could
(26:35):
beat Box, we could be he could be Hercules Mulligan.
Actually he went as Hercules Mulligan for for Thanksgiving three
years in a row at his family. They dressed up
for Thanksgiving like that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Bring it back to Baby Shark.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Sorry that I don't mind. I'm just watching the show.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, I feel like, is is there anything you were
surprised by hearing Baby Shark again for the first time
in a while.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I don't remember it kind of like the first part
without any baby voice singing.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
The first part was kind of like a banger.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I didn't like having that drum totally, and it like
the electronic like beeping and stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
The track was cool, but then it started singing and
it ruined it.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes that happens, especially
with kids songs. They like try to make the voices
be so kind of like stand out and cartoon like cartoonish,
so that like little kids like it. But I agree,
it's it's it's it's like strength in one way, but
it's its weakness in another way. Its streekness. It's its streakness.
That's definitely its streetness.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's its breakness, freakness Blinders, which we've been watching a
lot of No.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, the the voices and stuff. But yeah, the music
is great and and the drums excellent. There are these
samples that get dropped in that are like these drum
fills you know, that are really fun, and then you
kind of forget about the main melody, like that lead
that's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
If you take away the lyrics and you just had
the beat in the synth line, it's basically is it
New Order? Is that the song I just can't get.
I just can't get. It's really like almost like the
same song. They have a synth line in that song
that's like I think goes.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I think it's right. It's basically exactly. Yeah. I've always
it's funny because Baby Shark has taken over for that song.
I've heard so much more now and I forgot that.
It's when I remember when I first heard Baby Shark,
I was like, this is a rip off of it.
I just I wonder if they actually like some royalties.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's really like pretty exact actually, and even the rhythm too.
This is how it is what I do when I'm
just standing for like rib yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, like a like a bully that's about that, just
like saw a nerd and it's like hungry to bully.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
To bully.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I have them bullied in twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Bullied It's twenty five minutes, and then bullies at your school?
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Speaker 1 (29:27):
I want to ask you about K pop demon Hunters.
Oh God, are we over it? Are we into it?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It was good and I don't like it anymore right totally.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This is news breaking news for me.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Someone if someone asked me, like to play it in
the car, I wouldn't like to die and be like, no,
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I just don't like it that much anyone.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So, just to recap, if somebody asked you to play
it in the car, by the way, who would that
potentially be? Know? All right, her kind of cousin?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, okay, putting blast I love it? Yeahs fired, she's
going to respond to the next episode.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
By the way, we did want to update the listeners.
From now on, we will always have a child with us. Okay. So,
so if Lena asked you to listen to it in
the car, good news, you wouldn't die.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Which cousin is this?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
By the way, this is like a kind of This
is like a cousin. It's it's Lilah's sister's.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Daughter, gotcha? Okay? Because so because it will if it
were Dan, anyone related to Dan, it would get back
to him. Dan is Dan, Your brother is a is
a big time listener. He's listening right now. Chance he
might even have a smirk on his face right now,
just because we're bringing him up.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
If you want to shout out uncle Dan. He listens
to the pod you want to shut out over uncle Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
There you go. Okay, another smile, Another smile for Dan.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So you wouldn't die, you would be okay with it,
but you wouldn't ask to put it on yourself. But
if it was on, I have a feeling I know
the top songs for you from that strategy. That's not
a song strategy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It is in it, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh that is on it. Yeah, I do know that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
One by twice.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
We're really splitting hairs at this point, dude, it's on
the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're talking the movie.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh you're just talking the movie.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
It's not It is in the movie, but it's only
like three minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Hello, uh Dad, I get with it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This is the first time to have both of you together,
like both of my kids, and it's actually like really
a lot for me, like in a stress way and
like I wish you wouldn't gang up on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Me and you're doing too much. You be an extra okay, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Don't you guys feel like I'm kind of like a
cool dad, Like I'm like anti cringe, anti x X.
I don't I don't go on X anymore. I'm not
into musk.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I've been like at least nineteen years since, Like I
like the other X.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's been so long, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So like I used to like d m X and
like the punk band from Los Angeles. X.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's cool, XXX Young is big, that's your favorite? Good?
All right, well we're even talking how long we're talking
about talking?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Honestly? The top three are It's Golden all the way,
it's got to be that, It's unbelievable song, Soda pop,
and yeah, that other one that you said, strategy is good. Yeah,
top three, I mean take Down, take Down. I was
over Takedown for a little bit, but then it came
on and I was like, Okay, this is this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I would and you tell me if this is wrong.
I would imagine for all of the big talk you
just made about, oh, I'm so over it, if the
if Takedown came.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
On right now and you're at the club.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Right or Lena or Chavon or Olivia were right here
and they started like dancing to it and singing it,
you wouldn't join in and dance and sing. Really, that's total.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's like Kevin being like, I'm at the club and
then Hamilton comes on. I'm not going to cross my arms.
I'm gonna put my hands up in the sky and
I'm going to dance. Pardon me?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Are you I remember, sir, like I would be and
I would be in there like crying.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Is my daughter's favorite song. And you just met my son.
What I'm his son?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Just face fat for the first time.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You're out, I'm in. Yeah, I got this son. Now,
there is a video I made when you were born,
Edie that I sent to Kevin. Do you remember it?
I was at my office. I know you don't remember
it because you just got a brain, but I wonder
(33:59):
if he could play it? Do you like? I probably
have it in the files, the files, dude, No, no, no, no,
we're not no or not no not.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
The best person.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
In the world, I think, to you, and to carry
in the little little baby.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Was it twenty sixteen? Was right when e was born?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah? What's it? What's the date?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I can't pub dude, church true? Oh here I can
show you this though. This is a good thing to
show you first of all.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Check that out. You know what that is.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's friend of the pod Mike Strimberg, and that's the
greatest photogram.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I love that photo. Yeah, I know that one. I
know that one well for.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
The listener, in case somebody will start showing you these pods.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I think we do guitars.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
From the goddamn band Mike Stramberg.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And there's a photograph of him.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Through a triangle I have made by crossing my legs
in a hotel room where we are staying, and.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I took this picture of him.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So it's the funniest thing in my phone.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Please.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I know we're coming up.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
As of this date. You just played Bowery Ballroom with
that man with this child in attendance. Okay, So that's
what I wanted to know because I saw.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Eighty nine seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, both of your parents rocking up on stage, and
I saw clips of it. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I was fine with It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Did you have fun? I don't want to talk. You
talk talk to your brother.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So did you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Do you wish that they played Baby Shark or something?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Do you wish that we played Auron Burser, Okay, any
notes on the show.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I think Mom said she got a tambourine bruise.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Ha, oh yeah, that would happen.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Sure she is a vigorous tambouriner. That's true. She doesn't really.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Take that's on her LinkedIn to mom. Shout out mom,
big time, all moms, And that's what I wanted to say. No,
I want to do Mother's Day. Three months ago, Baby
Shark Eatie.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Closing thoughts on baby Shark? Did you give it a
chance or do you give it no chance?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I give it a chance, all right, I give it
a chance too. I think it's delightful.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I kind of thought purpose And as we head out
the door, you've been the first special guest on the pod.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Thank you for joining us, first celebrity guest. Anything you'd
like to say before we go.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm a I'm a gooby wooby, and honestly, it's been
nice to have my whole family together for once.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
You
Give it a chance, give it a chance, Give it
a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Come on and give it a chance.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Give it a chance, give it a chance, give it
a come on and give it. You want to give
it a chance, Give it a chance, Give it a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Just chancers, chancers, chancers. It's a snow day here in Brooklyn.
It's a snow day here in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Have yours ever met? Not in person, but I've seen
a lot of videos of you, and you've probably seen
a ton of videos of me, because that Kevin shares,
shares all the videos I send him. I'm sure have
you seen a ton of videos of Casey? No, I
don't think, of course, the answer is no, of course not.
(00:48):
My development is not as important.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, listen, that's debatable. I mean, look, I love you,
but I also love him.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
He is my son and your brother. Surprise. That's what
this is all about. No, no, no, that's not sure. That's
not true. That's a job. That's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So chances we have a special guest today, at Casey's recommendation.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
There's a human child joining us, and and this is important.
We wanted you for a lot of reasons. One, you've
got the skills, we've we've I've seen you on those
videos that you've sent and you from the eighties. Gifted. Yeah,
you're gifted. You're a gift. You're a gifted person. Now
(01:34):
the other reason why is because we are going to
talk about the song baby Shark, which you're you're an
older How old are you now, Edie.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Nine and eleven twelfth or twelve eleven twelve?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, that's how you know you're big. But I assume
I'm making an assumption that this song is sort of
over for you, right like this that's more of like
a toddler song. Absolutely, but I'm sure there was a
time and tell me if you remember, was there a
time where you did like this song? Yo?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I So here's where I have to step in and
say did I Yeah, of course you did like but no,
I don't know. I don't know what time, I don't
know what year. We'll find out. So basically, also I
should quickly say to you what we do on Give
It a Chance is we listen to songs, even if
they're super like popular songs. There are songs that maybe
(02:29):
people think are like cheesy or lame or corny or cringe.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Maybe it's like.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why did you cringe because I'm forty six, But we
try to find something we think is cool or redeeming
about the song.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So Baby Shark.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Baby Shark was like hugely popular, but I can't remember
when it was out twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Twenty fifteen is when it dropped. But I think it's
children's songs like this are timeless, like you know, like
it's it's like a London bridge is falling down. It's
like it's if any kid is like, oh that came
out when I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Totally it's forever. And so it's like Drake forever. And
there is a debate like did Eminem have the best
verse on that was the Wayne people?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Did?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Kanye re wrote his first after we heard Eminem's verse, I.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Go way song to rappers, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, so we do, so we do. It's rangey.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's rangey, but so the the but you dropped in
twenty sixteen, so Baby Sharks older than you. But it
was definitely a feature of your first definitely the first
daycare you ever went to. Shout out to do you
remember what it was called? Family Bayridge Family Daycare.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
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Speaker 2 (03:46):
Big sponsor of the pod. They closed in twenty nineteen
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Speaker 1 (03:49):
Ridge Family, but they're still sponsoring us. But they are sponsors,
and it's those sort of ideas that it was sort
of why their business didn't. Really that's why we have
the pod. Game in a Choke is for those kinds
of we're choking, we're choking out daycare.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Ourselves, We're choking ourselves. But yeah, so I definitely know
you loved Baby Shark when you were like two three.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, there was a whole thing, whole dance with your arms,
but you don't remember that. You remember the dance? Can
you show us the dance?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The dance. I remember that there was a dance that's audible.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I can't imagine that's audible. It is. I'm hearing it,
all right, Great, no more questions answers. I'm also going
to pull the curtain back a little bit because a
few things. We had recorded an entire episode of this song,
like in early season one. Yes, and I am often
responsible for hitting the record button, and I did not
(04:48):
do that the day that we recorded this, so we
we It's funny because I forgot everything we said about
this and I'm glad it's almost like kiss Met in
that we now have.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Kiss all the Mets, every New York.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Every minute, kiss met And but it's it's worked out.
It's fate that we we get to do it again
with somebody who was actually influenced by this song, whether
they want to admit it or not.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yo, right, Yeah, like whether you want to deny it,
admit it. And you know what they say about whoever
denied it, supply it, supplied it, dude, complained?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Do you know that? Does that? The kids still say that?
All right? So if like Casey farted right, mm hmmm,
which happens he has.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Farted before, not on the pond, but like in life at.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Least, maybe SBD SBD silence. Do you know what that is? Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Kids today, dude you repeat that SBD.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Silent but deadly. Do you know what that would mean?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I know that, I know that.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I just didn't know it was initials its initials.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, once you start using it enough, you have to,
you know, you got to abbreviate it as much which
as possible.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, you gotta breathe as much as pass.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So are you taking you know? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's just to say we have to finish this. If
you farted right, okay I said, or you said O
case you farted right, and then Casey said, no, I didn't.
Then I could say whoever denied it supplied it. But
then you could say whoever smelted delt it?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Okay, she know, she know? Oh you do. Okay. So
that's what's going on. Lots of our talk, lots of
Baby Shark waiting in the way, and that's what this
podcast is, and that's what people listen for. And that's uh.
And now we're going to jump into the song. We're
gonna listen to it, all right, and and uh, then
(06:45):
we will discuss. Okay, you're up for the task, Eadie.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, I guess ringing endorsement pod game in a choke
called all right, so Baby Shark, I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Going pink fong and I always The other thing is
I always watched the video.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Casey always watches the video.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I always just listen to music and then we compare
you ready, all right, go three two?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Now baby checked it, Baby checked it, Baby shirk.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Wow, Okay, we are back. Wow. Lot a lot, a
lot to discuss, a lot to love. I will start
with the reason why we did. This is because you know, historically,
when kids like a song, they ask for it over
and over again, and parents are often like, I can't
believe I have to listen to this song again, right,
that's like a trope. His parents have to like deal
and listen to the song. And then it does get
(07:33):
to a point where a kid might go, I'm I'm
not a baby anymore. I don't want baby Shark, and
the parents are kind of like, I kind of miss
baby Shark. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah, And that's where I'm
at now. I almost feel like the last time we
listened to it, she was still like, still like it.
My daughter, who is four, was still liking it, and
now she's like, I don't like that song. She actually
I told her that we were doing this podcast and
(07:54):
asked her if she wanted to join, and she said
no and no meaning no she didn't want to and no,
she doesn't like it. She is onto a song right
now that is I think maybe worse, which is I'm
a gummy bear. I'm a gummy bear and it's like goods, goods, goods.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, and you know, so you can talk about it
if you want to. Edie definitely had a passage with
Gummy Bear and I don't want to blow you up,
but I have to. I have to offer this. Gummy
Bear had a song called about the pacifying and it
was called nookie like Fred.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Durst, Yeah, like fred Durston Olympus.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And but that's I guess maybe that's called that in
some places. I don't know, but that was a part
of Edie's I was gonna say nightmare blunt rotation, bedtime
song rotation.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
For a little while where it would.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Be like, yo, this isn't a psychotic arrangement of songs.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
That definitely is very it was.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was collaborative, but a lot of me it was
like the softness of it. I think we did.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
We definitely did that.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It was like after school play on my computer, my nook.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He never leaves my mouth.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Wow, So I still know, but it's to the I
still know all of it. And then it was also
like Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston. It was like a very
soft song thing. And then like when she was like
six and a half, one night she just went like, hey,
I don't need to just sing to me anymore, I know,
and I was like okay, and then I like left
the room I was like.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
You take a hit, you take it eat. They don't.
They don't realize. The other thing is like big al
for dad who was in your bloot rotation, Big yeah yeah.
But so like I was thinking about this because it
feels like yesterday obviously that Marie was listening to these songs.
I'm sure similar with Eadie. But a child's life is
(09:49):
like it's it's so scrunched down compared to ours totally,
So like an hour in a car is like especially
as like even a younger age and Eadie it's a
portion of their life totally, so it feels crazy, whereas
for an hour.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
In ten years is a lot different than an hour
in forty six years.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
R you know, do you know? Do you get it?
Like you get it? What CPA's outside.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I will just say yeah, yeah, just on that front,
that's totally true and just it's also wild because I
remember so much stuff that I always ask you, like
do you remember that? And you're like, no, dude, I
was four, you know what I mean? Like the memories.
I feel like your memories are like fuzzy back then.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
I have memory loss.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I don't have.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Actually, there are some great dementia meds that are also
sponsors of this pod.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I'm sure I probably Wait, so Eadie, what are your
thoughts on Baby I need to get back to Baby Sharks?
So hearing it? Sorry here a headphone was out, So
hearing Baby Shark again all over again? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
So basically.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
The lyrics. I was listening to them. The first part
where they were introducing the family. It was fine, some voices,
they were voices, but at the last part, something like
it sounded so terrifying. It was like it sounded like
someone was like getting stalked.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, yo, exactly, that's there. All of a sudden, the
whole family of sharks goes hunting and then what So
keep sorry, keep knowing. My curiosity is. I also have
to point out to the listener that, of course that
my child immediately is like the lyrics. Let's break down
the lyrics. I feel like, as a trope of.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
This, how often does daddy talk about Leonard Cohen, Nirvana
and Elliott Smith.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Nirvana and Elliott Smith.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
I have heard about him a lot, and the other
guy I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Okay, all right, yeah, Leonard Cohen hasn't reached it yet.
But the hierarchy of beads.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
For dad, yeah, okay, this is great, this is good,
and we'll come back to those. I'd love to get
your perspective on those artists. But for Baby Shark purposes,
what I have a question for both of you about
is do you feel like so when the tempo change
and key change happens and run away, now we're safe.
So that's the moment where the narrative shifts to the
(12:29):
perspective of the fish being hunted, right, Well, it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Was always through to the narratives, like they are they are
meeting all these people, right, so the perspective is the
fish going, oh, look, there's baby shark, there's Mommy shark.
And then they're singing along and then it's just like, well,
maybe you're right, because it does switch to let's go
hunt and then run away. That's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I thought they were introducing themselves and then let's go hunt.
And then when the tempo and key changes, then it's
the other that's the like the guppy, the the goldy.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
You know, unless it doesn't switch, it's actually they're turning
on themselves, so like they're all hunting themselves, you know,
sort of like how nowadays, like a political family that's
torn between different sides will just sort of start to
eat themselves.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
You know about that? Yeah, yeah, And nowadays everybody used
to talk, but they've got something to say, don't go yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So unless that's so, maybe maybe it's like, let's go
hunt their hunting, really hunting each other because of the
their their different views about the political economic situations that
are happening under the water, under the sea, And then
it's possible that then then they're like, Okay, it's the end.
It's the end, it's the end, And that's that's actually foretelling.
(13:45):
It's no, it's foretelling of what our society is about collapsing.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
What do you think about that take? That's why he's
won several peabodies as as a podcasters pod bodies. The
pod bodies have been piling up. He's got the pod
getting a chocolate go ahead, go ahead, good.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
It is the one thing to say about that. I
honestly think that is a very low possibility because this
is a kid's song. Wow, it would have that like
deep meaning.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh, look at animal farm. Okay, look at animal farm. Right,
everyone thought it was a kid's book, But.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You've read George Orwell's Animal Farm, right, and that miss
hasn't given you that, okay, you know, shout out to
miss another sponsor, another sponsor. I'm EADI divide his fourth
grade teacher, and I sponsored give it a chance. I
(14:47):
feel like I like what Casey did there. I like
the depths. He plumbed the depths and that's important to do.
Exit Gesis is next to me sis. But I do
think that I feel like what I liked on the
order of chance, giving it a chancy for me. That
(15:10):
could be what's going on, or it could be a
you know, sometimes Freud has said a cigar is just
a cigar, right, you know that you've learned that, what
so I do think it's like sometimes a rose is
just a rose. Sometimes in this song, it could be
it could be that they're eating each other, that they're
falling apart kind of bliz. Yeah, it could be that,
(15:33):
Or it could be we were introduced to each member
of the family and then the gupy the gold all
of them are like and that's the moment where I
like that. The key change and tempo change indicates like,
you know, it's like a yeah, or they're swimming really fast,
and it's like anxious, fearful. Your heart rate moves faster
(15:58):
when you're moving faster, right, you're so. I thought that
was a cool feature of the song that, like the
track actually mirrors the story. I thought that was cool.
But with him that could just oh no, he's with me,
or as answer, that could just be me. But I
also wanted to just quickly say something a little off topic,
but we can stay on topic case I had a question.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Oh no, no, I guess what I like, I was gonna
say another chancey As the voices build as to this,
as does the music, you know, like it starts pretty
simple and then like that high hat comes in. That's
so nice. That's that's a really nice moment, and then
it just builds up the dances do too, like there's
this really fun like, oh, I will go back to
(16:37):
the video. Yeah yeah I did. I'll go back to
what Edie said before, which was like, oh yeah, we
can watch it again.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Like another time, another time, like to like I saw
even like a year or.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Two go ahead when we revisit no for the anniversary
of this app at the Bounce Ballroom, Well yeah, next
no day, the voices you brought up before. It's so true,
Like that daddy voice is so strange. It's like, no, sure,
I can't even do it. It sounds like a ghost
from like the nineteen twenties, like you like.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
A cartoon Dracula, like I've your blood.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, it's like Daddy's shark.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Yeah, sounds like it.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
You can say my speech a drunk opera singer.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
To me, yess opera singer. You're pardoned, by the way.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's accurate. And then there's like a grandma and grandpa
shark and they have this sort of like gum like
kids put their teeth away.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I was doing that. I have a question though,
from from a from a young kid's perspective, do you
think that's what? For instance, like you have a dad,
I do have a dad. You have two grandmas? Do
have two?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Your two?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Grandpa's rest in peace?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
But is that what you think?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like? Do I so like the Do I sound like
Don Pardo?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
No?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
All right, I think you know that, But I'm just asking.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I don't know what the world sounds like.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You're fishing. He's fishing for a compliment right now, he's fishing.
Do I sound better than them?
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Nope? Harding my speech. But that's super all right, So
I just wanted to know if that's And do you
feel like your grandma's talk like that? Oh worried it's
me Nana and me me. No, okay, not really. Do
(18:38):
you feel like your dad talks like that?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Casey, No, No, My dad's very like monotone. He talks
like this. So it's daddy Shark. He can be like
Daddy Shark. Daddy Shark. He loses his voice. It's like
he's at a place when there's like more than ten
people and he has to talk to someone. He like
loses his voice right away. He's like, so monitor, yeah,
(19:03):
he's got to leave, all right. What else?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I don't mean to keep pulling us off. Oh there
is one thing I do, like we do have to
tell Casey, just on the subject of nightmare blunt.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Rotations, what I do often suggest?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What do I ask you to do? Often in the
streets of Bay Ridge, when we pass a law like
what about or people standing outside?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He asked me, I don't know if this is right,
because give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
It's like it's like.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Sometimes when we pass people in the street, or we
pass like a bar, he asked me, go inside. Or
go to the person and ask for a sig, like
I do you want to?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And have you ever done it? Nope?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
All right, and has anyone? But so I want I'm
interested in the social experiment case. I want to give
people a chance in general in this life.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
And I'm a sponsor of this program as well. Give
people a chance. But I just want to see what
would happen. I want to see what would happen if
like a nine year old I did it when you
were like six. I want to see if like someone
would be like looking for me, or if someone would
be like all right and just like you know, it's
a real scale test too, like what what level where
the person's at? None of the bar who's going to
(20:23):
be like, yeah, sure, no problem.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Bay Ridges it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Bay Ridge is fifty to fifty. It's a coin flip
for show. But anyway, yeah, you like something could share
with the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah, people don't send their kids to get SIGs anymore,
that's yo.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But that's literally there was a time, like I bet
when Nana was a kid. It's not inconceivable that's like
her dad might have sent her to the store to
get like the newspaper of some bread and a pack
of cigarettes, like in nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And it's like get a Hershey bar for yourself for
the trouble, but bring back my change.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
That sounds all right though, right?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
That was that was what it was. And now kids
they're on Baby Shark all day. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You can't even leave the house because you're like baby.
You're like Harvey Kaite Tell and bad Lieutenant, just.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Like Baby Shark, Baby Shark. What music are you listening
to now, Edie Hamilton? Wow? Really, that's your dad's least
favorite genre.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
I brain rotted him.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Our friend of the program, Chris O'Brien cephas how many?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
How many? How many?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And the high chiefs, how many Hamilton's stickers do you
presently have on your portable water bottle?
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Can I get it?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's not here?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Five?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think it's five?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Would be under five to ten?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
No, I have five?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
I counted.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He saw the water bottle. We were all together on Saturday,
and he counted. They counted it together, and then he
turned to me and he said, justice is funny, dude.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Just this is I don't know, it's this Hamilton's educational.
It's got a lot of value to it in that way.
I feel like that's of kids of songs that you
could be listening to our genres, you could go down.
I think that's that's a safe one. It's I think
as a parent, you got to be pretty happy about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I would say this, I managed to avoid Hamilton for
ten years of its existence. And we've talked about this
before on the pod. That's why cases bringing it up.
It was I have I have some probably boring, not
necessary for us to go through on the pod thoughts
about the some of my I have some issues with
(22:39):
like the politics of Hamilton frankly, but but I'd also
never really listened to it. And what I could say
now is, having spent the better part of the last
would you say, two years year, really uh, really in
deep with it. It's not without its charms. I know
(23:02):
every and I also feel like I probably now know
at least to the first half of the record. I
don't like the cues.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Yeah, I don't like Yeah, there's a lot. Have you
watched it or just listened?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I watched it and I listened to it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's on streamer right, It's on so you can. I
want you guys to see it. I didn't see it
in person. I think I watched it when it came out,
and yeah, I get it. I like it. There's elements
there that are that are fun. It's tendencies, tendencies, there's
things that I definitely well, you know, as the parlance
(23:39):
cringe at, but I think it's you know, you know
what it is sometimes when sometimes like people will ruin
art for the artist, and there was just so many
like clips of people like you know, all over the
country making like their version with their whole family, and
it's just like when you see that so many times,
it's like, oh my gosh, and you're like, okay, like
(24:01):
this is great. The whole family comes together, they're having fun.
I should I should applaud that. I should give that
a chancy, But it's it's tough. It's sometimes tough to stomach,
you know, and you just gotta close your eyes, yo. Totally.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And also like he's he's clearly very talented, clearly doesn't
care what I think nor we'll ever find out. But
he's a little hard. He's a high he's a high hurdle.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
He's a h He also wrote I've been staring at
the edge of the water young as I can remember.
That's a great tune. She's yeah, it didn't write that song.
He wrote the whole all the music he did. You're Welcome,
which is You're Welcome is great, very Lynn.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
We've talked about You're Welcome before on this podcast because
I think I said that it's the most It's the
song in the Disney canon that I could hear slightly
repurposed and on a Saddle Creek record in the early
two thousands.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah, but yeah, I would say, what would you say
Hamilton's the favorite?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Right now?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:13):
All right?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
And would you what would you say your favorite song
from Hamilton is if I had to like? Yeah, two
part question, favorite song from Hamilton?
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I don't have a favorite song.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Pick top three?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
It can't.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
All right, you're about to get booted off this podcast, dude.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Because honestly, you need to have hard opinions takes.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's a long musical, all right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Warm take doesn't even have to be a hot take.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, it could just be like Luke warm take about Hamilton.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
You get to decide for you.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Are you running out of steam? Are you done with
the podcast.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Okay, it doesn't mean you have to be like it's
my absolute favorite, but it's like, what are some that
are in the mix for you?
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Sisters? The Sisters one three.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Three one, the Scuttle Sisters.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
All right, sad as satisfied, the world turned upside down
the room where it happened. See, I know in case
I've been given it a chance.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
That's amazing. You've turned, You've changed.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
You've changed, you have tendencies. Would you say, uh oh?
Would you say Aaron Burser? All right, there you go
before we move forward? Is there anything you'd like to
perform from Hamilton for the podcast before we continue moving?
Are you sure? Because we could be the Wee could
(26:35):
beat Box, we could be he could be Hercules Mulligan.
Actually he went as Hercules Mulligan for for Thanksgiving three
years in a row at his family. They dressed up
for Thanksgiving like that.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Bring it back to Baby Shark.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Sorry that I don't mind. I'm just watching the show.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, I feel like, is is there anything you were
surprised by hearing Baby Shark again for the first time
in a while.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I don't remember it kind of like the first part
without any baby voice singing.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
The first part was kind of like a banger.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I didn't like having that drum totally, and it like
the electronic like beeping and stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
It's really cool.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
The track was cool, but then it started singing and
it ruined it.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, I know what you mean. Sometimes that happens, especially
with kids songs. They like try to make the voices
be so kind of like stand out and cartoon like cartoonish,
so that like little kids like it. But I agree,
it's it's it's it's like strength in one way, but
it's its weakness in another way. Its streekness. It's its streakness.
That's definitely its streetness.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's its breakness, freakness Blinders, which we've been watching a
lot of No.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
No, the the voices and stuff. But yeah, the music
is great and and the drums excellent. There are these
samples that get dropped in that are like these drum
fills you know, that are really fun, and then you
kind of forget about the main melody, like that lead
that's like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
If you take away the lyrics and you just had
the beat in the synth line, it's basically is it
New Order? Is that the song I just can't get.
I just can't get. It's really like almost like the
same song. They have a synth line in that song
that's like I think goes.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I think it's right. It's basically exactly. Yeah. I've always
it's funny because Baby Shark has taken over for that song.
I've heard so much more now and I forgot that.
It's when I remember when I first heard Baby Shark,
I was like, this is a rip off of it.
I just I wonder if they actually like some royalties.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It's really like pretty exact actually, and even the rhythm too.
This is how it is what I do when I'm
just standing for like rib yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, like a like a bully that's about that, just
like saw a nerd and it's like hungry to bully.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
To bully.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I have them bullied in twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Bullied It's twenty five minutes, and then bullies at your school?
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Speaker 1 (29:27):
I want to ask you about K pop demon Hunters.
Oh God, are we over it? Are we into it?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
It was good and I don't like it anymore right totally.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
This is news breaking news for me.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Someone if someone asked me, like to play it in
the car, I wouldn't like to die and be like, no,
I hate that.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I just don't like it that much anyone.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So, just to recap, if somebody asked you to play
it in the car, by the way, who would that
potentially be? Know? All right, her kind of cousin?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, okay, putting blast I love it? Yeahs fired, she's
going to respond to the next episode.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
By the way, we did want to update the listeners.
From now on, we will always have a child with us. Okay. So,
so if Lena asked you to listen to it in
the car, good news, you wouldn't die.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Which cousin is this?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
By the way, this is like a kind of This
is like a cousin. It's it's Lilah's sister's.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Daughter, gotcha? Okay? Because so because it will if it
were Dan, anyone related to Dan, it would get back
to him. Dan is Dan, Your brother is a is
a big time listener. He's listening right now. Chance he
might even have a smirk on his face right now,
just because we're bringing him up.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
If you want to shout out uncle Dan. He listens
to the pod you want to shut out over uncle Dan.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
There you go. Okay, another smile, Another smile for Dan.
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So you wouldn't die, you would be okay with it,
but you wouldn't ask to put it on yourself. But
if it was on, I have a feeling I know
the top songs for you from that strategy. That's not
a song strategy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
It is in it, but it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Oh that is on it. Yeah, I do know that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
One by twice.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
We're really splitting hairs at this point, dude, it's on
the soundtrack.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
We're talking the movie.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Oh you're just talking the movie.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
It's not It is in the movie, but it's only
like three minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Hello, uh Dad, I get with it.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
This is the first time to have both of you together,
like both of my kids, and it's actually like really
a lot for me, like in a stress way and
like I wish you wouldn't gang up on.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Me and you're doing too much. You be an extra okay, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Don't you guys feel like I'm kind of like a
cool dad, Like I'm like anti cringe, anti x X.
I don't I don't go on X anymore. I'm not
into musk.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I've been like at least nineteen years since, Like I
like the other X.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It's been so long, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So like I used to like d m X and
like the punk band from Los Angeles. X.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's cool, XXX Young is big, that's your favorite? Good?
All right, well we're even talking how long we're talking
about talking?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Right?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Honestly? The top three are It's Golden all the way,
it's got to be that, It's unbelievable song, Soda pop,
and yeah, that other one that you said, strategy is good. Yeah,
top three, I mean take Down, take Down. I was
over Takedown for a little bit, but then it came
on and I was like, Okay, this is this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I would and you tell me if this is wrong.
I would imagine for all of the big talk you
just made about, oh, I'm so over it, if the
if Takedown came.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
On right now and you're at the club.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Right or Lena or Chavon or Olivia were right here
and they started like dancing to it and singing it,
you wouldn't join in and dance and sing. Really, that's total.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
That's like Kevin being like, I'm at the club and
then Hamilton comes on. I'm not going to cross my arms.
I'm gonna put my hands up in the sky and
I'm going to dance. Pardon me?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Are you I remember, sir, like I would be and
I would be in there like crying.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Is my daughter's favorite song. And you just met my son.
What I'm his son?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Just face fat for the first time.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You're out, I'm in. Yeah, I got this son. Now,
there is a video I made when you were born,
Edie that I sent to Kevin. Do you remember it?
I was at my office. I know you don't remember
it because you just got a brain, but I wonder
(33:59):
if he could play it? Do you like? I probably
have it in the files, the files, dude, No, no, no, no,
we're not no or not no not.
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Speaker 2 (34:31):
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Speaker 3 (34:37):
Hello?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
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Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah? What's it? What's the date?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
I can't pub dude, church true? Oh here I can
show you this though. This is a good thing to
show you first of all.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Check that out. You know what that is.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's friend of the pod Mike Strimberg, and that's the
greatest photogram.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I love that photo. Yeah, I know that one. I
know that one well for.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
The listener, in case somebody will start showing you these pods.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I think we do guitars.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
From the goddamn band Mike Stramberg.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
And there's a photograph of him.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Through a triangle I have made by crossing my legs
in a hotel room where we are staying, and.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I took this picture of him.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
So it's the funniest thing in my phone.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Please.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, I know we're coming up.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
As of this date. You just played Bowery Ballroom with
that man with this child in attendance. Okay, So that's
what I wanted to know because I saw.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Eighty nine seconds.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, both of your parents rocking up on stage, and
I saw clips of it. How does that make you feel?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I was fine with It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Did you have fun? I don't want to talk. You
talk talk to your brother.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
So did you enjoy it?
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Do you wish that they played Baby Shark or something?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Do you wish that we played Auron Burser, Okay, any
notes on the show.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I think Mom said she got a tambourine bruise.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Ha, oh yeah, that would happen.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Sure she is a vigorous tambouriner. That's true. She doesn't really.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Take that's on her LinkedIn to mom. Shout out mom,
big time, all moms, And that's what I wanted to say. No,
I want to do Mother's Day. Three months ago, Baby
Shark Eatie.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Closing thoughts on baby Shark? Did you give it a
chance or do you give it no chance?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I give it a chance, all right, I give it
a chance too. I think it's delightful.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I kind of thought purpose And as we head out
the door, you've been the first special guest on the pod.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Thank you for joining us, first celebrity guest. Anything you'd
like to say before we go.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
I'm a I'm a gooby wooby, and honestly, it's been
nice to have my whole family together for once.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
You
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