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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now this Duran in the morning show. There are so
many millions of reasons we love living in New York City,
and there's so many millions of reasons people love to
come to New York City. The one I want to
talk about right now is the New York Comedy Festival.
This is the twenty second year. The twenty twenty six
New York Comedy Festival is going down in November, but
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we got to talk about it now because tickets go
on sale this morning at eleven, the pre sale this morning.
And of course, the mastermind behind the New York Comedy Festival,
the biggest name in comedy in my opinion, of course,
Caroline Caroline Hurst is here.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hi, Caroline, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
How many times did I laugh so hard I cracked
my pants in at Caroline's comedy club that there was me?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yes, we go back a long, long way.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We sure do, we do, and you were more beautiful
than ever. We love you, Caroline, and of course Greg Charles,
who is always at her side. They're connected at whatever
they're connected with it. Thank you guys for coming in
to talk about the Comedy Festival. If you're listening to
us no matter where in this world you're listening, including
here in New York and New Jersey and Long Island
and Connecticut River. It's going down in November. Like I said,
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tickets the pre sale this morning at eleven o'clock. Let's
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So the Comedy Festival is back again, and it's back
from Friday November sixth through Sunday November fifteenth, with about
probably close to two hundred and fifty shows around New
York City. Right now, we're announcing the headliners that we
have right now, but come September we do a whole
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other announcement of everybody else that we've put together. Because
it takes so long to do all of this. It
takes a whole year to put this together.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Two hundred and fifty shows. That sounds so easy.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't know what the problem is.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Okay, I want to get to that list of headliners
in a second.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So, but you know that, you know that the New
York Comedy Festival you have started out being mainly stand
up but right now the future of comedy is more
than that. The future of comedy or is improv our
digital creators, our podcasters, all different site types of ways
that comedy is delivered and the festival this year is
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a good example of how we put that together.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
We let's talk about them. Let's start with your headliners.
I'm excited to hear who who is headlining this year.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Okay, so Mark Maron is back, Elena Glacier, Jordan Kepler,
Daniel Schloss, Miss pat and then we have the new
people that we're headlining, like Jordan Jensen, Adam Friedland, Sarah
Sherman and Patty Harrison, Joanne McNally, Ben Beckis and Zewee
and Jess Hilarious is with us.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Also, everyone loves Hilarious.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Jess used to work at Caroline's all the time, so
she's back headlining.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yes, we had her on our show not too long ago,
and I cracked my pants that day too. I was
out pant full of crap in my life, thanks to you, Caroline.
I don't know about you, guys. I have such a
hankering to see the comedians that make you laugh, but
they also make you think, it make you feel. I mean,
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my favorite today is Jimmy Carr, of course, and Ricky's
Your Vase does the same thing. Dave Chappelle is a
master in making people laugh and think and then you
go back to the old days of comedy Richard Pryor
and George Carlin, and I want to see more shows
like that where you know, it's not all just laugh
until you crap your pants, but it's also a thinking evening,
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you know. And do you see more of that in
comedy these days?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's kind of you know, the observational stand ups from
originally how we really have. When I first got into business,
that was the trend that was there. But I think
we've branched off, and I think that COVID had a
lot to do with it. I think that a lot
of the digital creators came out of that. They may
not be everybody's cup of tea, like what you like,
but there is a market for that, and there is
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an audience for that. I understand exactly what you're saying.
You know, the John Stewarts of the world. You know,
the Mark Maren's of the world, you know, the Bill
Burrs of the world. I mean, I love all of that.
I love it more than anything else. But there is
a whole other generation and a half that appreciates a
bigger gamut than just the stand up.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Caroline is my superhero I think that you're amazing with
what you've done being a woman in the business in general.
But comedy is it's you know, I have a soft
spot for it. One might say it hits me in
the funny bone. I love it, and I think that
what you're doing is amazing. It's like the best eleven
nine days of time here in New York City, and
I just I'm so excited to see some of these
people because, like you said, we know some of these
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names very well. Some of them I have no idea,
but those have been some of the best shows I've
ever been to. Is when I didn't know what I
was walking into and I got surprised.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
So this is great.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I think we're pretty good curators of what works. I
think we deliver because you know, I go to lots
of the shows and stand in the back and I
watch the audience reactions and I see all these happy
faces walking out.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Do people crap their pants when they know you're in
the back of the audience, No.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Whit a minute, I kind of did. If you remember
a couple of years ago, I did Down for Laughs
and it was part of the New York Comedy Festival,
and it was all to go for helping Hearts of Joy,
which helps children with Down syndrome right to get the
heart operations that they need. And Caroline was in the
back and it was a totally clean show. They didn't
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want any cursing, they didn't want like any dirty comedians.
So we had a book a clean show first of all.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That is very hard to do.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
And I'm in the back thinking, oh my gosh, Caroline
is watching the show that we put together and it's
a totally clean show.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's so different, Like what is she thinking?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
But she seemed to enjoy it. I think that evening
and you raised lots of money.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, Caroline is known as the Queen of comedy, but
she's never done stand up. Have you ever tried to
stand up before?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But I think way back, maybe I should have. Yeah,
I didn't where we went.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
From the early days of watching you know, Jay Leno
in the club and Jerry Seinfeld. Even when I see
Jerry go, we both say, can you believe what has happened?
This art form just exploded in the last forty years.
I mean it's unbelievable. And then the younger generation, and
you know, it had a lot to do with the
cable channels at that time that really looking for cheap
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ways to entertain people put on lots of comedy and
then a younger generation got hooked on that. So we
owe it all to cable TV and then to the
Internet for digital creators.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
You know, Caroline, all those years running Caroline's Comedy Club,
the world famous Carolines, you were usually in the back,
watching in the shadows, observing, and you had you were
running an incredibly successful business at the same time. What
have you learned through all of this?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, look, early on, when I first started the club
and I was standing in the back, I had a
convinced journalist and radio people also that comedy was on
the rise and you should really take note of the
people for me at Carolines. And it was early on
it was Howard Stern, who was on NBC Radio in
the afternoon that looked at our line up and wanted
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to take on people like Richard Belzer and Pee Wee.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Herman and bring him on the show.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
And this started the whole start of Carolines as a
national entity, and mentions on the David Letterman Show happened
that way. It was the start of something really new,
and I really think that Carolines was part of this
cultural movement that really I'm going to tell you I
had convinced people to come there and cover comedy.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It was like, who are you talking about this? Jay Leno?
Who is this guy?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
You know?
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It was like that.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
So the Jerry Seinfels, the Richard Lewis, the Gary Shanlings,
you know. The first year when I was open and
a booking comedians, so it was tough, but then I
guess tenacity, I stayed with it, and forty years later
it's a phenomena.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Wait, do you have them all on speed dial? Like
could you pick up your phone right now and just
like call, like, you know all these people, Jerry Seinfeld,
you know, you.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Know what it is. They got their people now, you
know what that is?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, well yeah, I was kind of hoping you could
push the speed doll for Richard Pryor giving him a
little call for us.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He wasn't he.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh but yeah, unbelievable. Let's talk about the cancel culture
that hit the comedy world for a while. It seems
to be relieving, of course, not only in comedy but
in other industries as well. The cancel culture. How do
you feel about like the luisy Ks and guys like that.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
God how everybody's forgotten about that. But the thing about
Louis now, i've known movie. The thing about Louis is
that I've known Louise since he's a young young man
and he did something that was not appropriate when I
guess he was in his early thirties. I think I read,
I read, you know, his story in the New York Times.
He fest up to what he did, and he apologized
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for what he did. And I think that the cancel culture,
you know, would forgive a murderer of coming out of
prison because he put his time in, as opposed to
just forgetting about what Louie did. So I have forgiven Louie.
I think he paid his penance, and I you know,
he's wonderful. We had him in the festival last year
and he taped the special Lits right now on Netflix.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
Yeah, Nate, you had a question. When I go to
Instagram and I start scrolling, it's a lot of people
doing their sets or their bits or whatever. Is it
standard practice now in comedy clubs to just film everything
and then give that to the comedian so that they
can cut it, edit it and post it.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
At their leisure.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
We used to have the Monday Nights, which was kind
of like the New Talent Night, and everybody kind of
you know, did that to tape themselves so they can
see themselves and use it as a tape to try
to get a job somewhere else. They did that. I
think they do more like comedians don't want to give
their work up online like that unless somebody's paying for it. So,
but they do a lot of crowd work. Crowd work
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is the way you can get around doing that and
not give up much of your material.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
How do you feel about crowd work?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Oh, don't ask me about that.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
We know how she feels about No. I saw I
saw a comedian. I can't remember who it was, and
he goes.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
If you have a comedian that starts talking to you,
just don't say anything back to them. They can't do
anything unless you give them something to work with.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I think it's a look.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It works for getting the word out about yourself, introducing
yourself online, and it works for that. But you know,
we used to say that's the hackiest thing around.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Really still do?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I mean, but people have made careers on this.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Carolina hersh is with us by the way, of course,
I hear talking about the twenties second New York at
Comedy Festival. Tickets are our on pre sale this morning
at eleven o'clock, Great Charles. Where do I go to
buy my tickets? At eleven this morning? For presale, you.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Go to Nycomedyfestival dot com. That's where you can unlock
the pre sale code. Ooh, And then tickets go on
sale to the general public Monday, July twentieth at eleven
am Eastern time.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, get your tickets. Two hundred and fifty different shows,
all happening beginning November sixth the New York Comedy Festival.
Great Charles, by the way, has always has been working
at Caroline since I've met you, Caroline, right. Do you
guys miss it? Do you miss the club?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I I miss? I missed the staff.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
I miss going into my office connecting with everybody. I
miss going into the room at night and seeing a
lot of the new talent. I miss not having that
to do. So now I have to do a lot
of that online. But you know that's where you know,
I walk into the room at night, see emerging talent
and go I gotta keep eye on this one. That one,
this one, and that one, and I love that whole
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part of it. And that's what I do miss so fine,
best thing coming up. So Gandhi, we're going to be
working with you in the festival.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yes, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I can't wait. Are doing Gandhi?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Well, like she was saying earlier, there are all these
different formats now that they're kind of venturing into. And
I have a podcast, so they were nice enough to
invite me in my podcast to be part of the
New York Comedy Festival. And there might be a little
stand up involved in it.
Speaker 8 (12:24):
A baby baby, I need to see this awesome, We'll see.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
It's been fouls for so long. I've always just wanted
to try it, and I have so much written, so
I figured, you know what, in the midst of doing
this podcast, we could just, you know, try a little
set and see how it goes. And very helpful with
suggestions on how to start practicing and getting it together.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Another reason you need to come to the New York
Comedy Festival. I've been gearing up to ask the question
I'm gonna ask. I ask it every year when Caroline
comes in, when are you going to reopen your club?
Where are we going to heave it with doors you
can walk through and see if you can sit in
and crap your pants.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I know I miss having it. It was a bittersweet
to close. Look, I kept the name. I did not
sell the club. I did not sell the name. So
in the back of my mind there was always something
else to do. So it's always on my mind to
do it.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We'll see what happens.
Speaker 7 (13:30):
More importantly than that of us.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm a little worried.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
There's this theme in the show you Danielle. Everyone's crapping
their pants. Yeah, where's the last time you had everyone's
pants somewhere?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
To be fair, there is that bug going around. I
was wondering to be fair, I mean, come.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
On, Comedy is a really part of our colture, bigger
than ever and a very important part of our culture.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It's it's art and it's medicine. I think comedy is
one of the coolest things that exist because it makes
us all happy. Like, who doesn't like comedy? I actually
did meet one person once that's said they didn't like comedy.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I found that weird.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Did you run gets so weird?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah? It's so important, you know, it's it's an. It's
influential form of entertainment that we love. I mean, we
get we get some facts from it, we get some
political point of views from it, we get healthy benefits
from it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So it's it's all good for.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Us nowadays with everything going on in this crazy world,
you need to laugh, right, So it's more important than ever.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Oh Dan, you know what's funny you said that. It's
funny you said that because it seems like we say
that every single year it gets worse. Hey, I have
totally been blown away at Maybe it's my algorithm on
this around whatever. All of these hecklers that are physically
walking up to the stage and effing around with the comedian,
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and the hecklers who pay to come to these shows
and want to interact without invitation with these comedians. Why
is that so prevalent now? It hasn't always been this
huge of a thing.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Because they know they'll be on social media. That's why
years ago there wasn't a camera in the room. Now
there's you know, a thousand cameras in the room to
capture it. So everybody's kind of a star, you know,
make yourself a star being obnoxious.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So it's like part of.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It is also just the comment section in general on
social media. Everybody thinks their opinion matters and counts, and
if you're in public, you can't type it, so you
have to scream it true.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's that's true, that's that's true. And then again, you know,
you know, we were always in our room, always watched
people with phones, people getting out of this seat's, people heckling.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
We kept a real control about that.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Good. But I guess anybody can run in at the
Beacon Theater, run up to the stage and start screaming
at the performer.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Please don't look. It's so important comedy, as we all agree.
Without it, we would be we wouldn't have a reason
to crap our pants. There you go right back to
the twenty twenty six New York Comedy Festival November sixth
through the fifteenth. The pre sale for tickets go go
out for sale at eleven this morning. You can go
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to NY Comedy Festival dot com and all the information
is right there. It's Nycomedy Festival dot com. You are
such royalty for us, Caroline, and thank you. You're such
honoring gank you you are royalty as well. Thank you
see money, Oh, thank you thank you. We got a
lot of Royalty roll into the room. We love you, guys,
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and congratulations already on what looks like it's going to
be the best comedy festival ever. Go to Nycomedyfestival dot
com or make sure you just follow them on Instagram
at NY Comedy Fest. Caroline and Greg, thank you so much,
thank you. We love you guys. Thank you,