July 22, 2026 • 31 mins
Double Dare host Mark Summers joins Elvis Duran and the Morning Show to celebrate the show's 40th anniversary, share behind-the-scenes stories from his television career, reveal his upcoming reunion special, and reflect on how entertainment has changed over the decades.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark show that. I'm like, you know what?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is what I want to about you TV people.
Can I just bitch and moan?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You can do anything you want to show the show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
TV is always on time. You're never late for TV.
But radio you just song her in snort.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I got here twenty five to eight o'clock and I
was talking to this nice gentleman, Nate Pro. Is he
in there fluffing you? What's he he do? Fluffing me? Wow?
I had no idea if I would have been here
earlier today, had I've known that was part of our service?
So what am I? Mark Summers is here? Wait, hold on,
(00:37):
hold on, hold on right here? Oh my look at that?
And there it is follows me throughout my.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Life, the double dare theme, freshly from being fluffered, fluffered.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Mark Summers is here? Who wrote this? Ed k Loff,
who wrote many themes the Price is Right? And the
thing about this was he wanted to put the word
double do in there, so when you think it's double ed,
there dun duh du double And so he put that
in it, and uh yeah, he's he's a pro and
still around doing this stuff. Wow. There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
See you've been around Hollywood for so many years, you
know all these these these people who did things like
the set designer from the nineteen seventies. Yeah, like when
you watch Match Game, it has that big orange shag carpet.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was the head page on Match Game when I
was over there at CBS. Really well, you seat the audience,
take tickets and work with the celebrities. And I remember
Geen Rayburn is how long ago?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
This was?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Jean Rayburn's mother came to the show and she was
this little old woman And Jean says, Mark, would you
take my mother out there? Uh to see her and
take care of it? And I said sure. And as
I'm walking out the door, Jean says to me, and
try not to grab her ass. So, I mean he's
kind of a guy. Wow. Right, Shenanigans have always existed
in Hollywood apparently, so, and that show that we would
(01:56):
do three and then he would break for lunch. And
the last two shows were a little crazy as they were,
you know, drinking a bit backstage during those things.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, you can watch the old masch game Gone. Did
you ever watch the old match games?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Want to? Yeah, they're really great in.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
These and they they have the panel of comedians or celebrities,
and some of them, you know, I don't even know
if they were relevant back then really, but they'ren't.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Relevant now because they're on match Game. But Jean Rayburn, the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Charles Nelson Riley was you gott to see him to understand.
But Geene Rayburn, the host, had this microphone because back
then you have to hold microphones that were on a wire, right,
and it was this telescoping microphone.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was like this tall Yes, what was it?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Like the Bob Barker the exact.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Same thing has had those. They got a sale on
them someway. So that was a great time to work
there there. I worked on the Sonny and Share Show,
and I did Sonny Show the last show, well the
last show, the announcement had been made that they were divorcing,
and she was in her dressing room and he was
in his dressing room, and Sonny didn't want it to end.
(03:00):
We were there till like two o'clock in the morning
because he just didn't want to finish it because you
knew it was over. Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
That reminds me of my mom, because my mom and
I would watch that together as the Sunny and Share show.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It meant so much to me, girl, I did you
I worked on Carol Burnett show All in the Family. Yeah, wow, Wow,
Well I got the rear end of real television.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know. I really cool. Eby you had sex with
Charles Nelson.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Riley, not that I remember. But Nates left me, so
maybe he did. I don't know it all right, So
Mark is here for many reason. Number one, he's a friend.
Number two, he's got a big announcement. But I think
I just made your announcement that kind of I don't know. Well, Well,
the big anniversary of phil.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fortieth anniversary of Double Deer, which is hard to believe.
We launched October sixth, nineteen eighty six, and on October
fourth in Philadelphia, our hometown city, We're going to do
a live anniversary show with Robin who was my assistant, Harvard,
who was our announcer at kay Lov, who wrote our music,
is going to be there. We're going to show video
that people have never seen. We're going to do physical challenges.
Are you going to be slime? Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And the big nose, the big nose with the fags?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You the thing that you remember? Isn't that interesting? Yeah,
well you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Remember the big nose and you had to go up
there and grabs to reach out to.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The nostrils because there was slime.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I didn't watch I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Where were you not alive?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She wasn't. How old are.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
You not that old? And I also didn't watch TV
until I was like fifteen?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So still yeah, it was like a Dutch why you're smart?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
But no, thanks, I appreciate it, but no, I mean
like they all watched it, right, and they loved it.
But I will live vicariously through them.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
See this is how old I am. Yeah, doubledare is
after my time? Yeah, you you were not our audience
at the time that she was.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It on started nineteen eighty six to ninety four, okay,
but we toured it where I was a rock star
for kid. I was selling out twenty thousand seed arenas
across the country, which was something I who would have
thought that would have happened, And it just was exciting.
I got to do a lot of things that normally,
you know, I wouldn't. I was one step out the door.
I had opened a smoked salmon business because I thought
my TV career was never going to happen. We started
(05:15):
selling to a place called the Price Club, which became Costco.
We were doing eighty thousand pounds a month, and then
I auditioned for Double Dor. They had auditioned a thousand
people in New York, didn't like anybody. I was the
first one to audition in Los Angeles, and ninety days
later I got the job.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Crazy, I have a book out because I would read this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let me read this.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We hear a chapter every time he's on. Finding all
of your stories in one book would be fascina.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Why have you not done this? Yeah, I don't think
anybody reads any more, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Audible you you, Audible would.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Be you, you reading the story would be remarkable. That's
interesting to think. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Also keep in mind another thing is doubledare is what
put Nickelodeon on the map. That's where slime came from.
What is in slim? What's the active ingredient in theide god?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Back in the day, it was apple sauce and green
food coloring and vanilla pudding and a little bit of oatmeal.
Because the ink company insurance companies wanted to make sure
they've gotten the kid's mouths they could eat it. Well,
now when we brought it back, it's this real scientific
stuff and you can change the viscosity of it and
do you want to thin or do you want to
(06:22):
thick and all that kind of stuff. And you know,
at that point, I was thirty four years old. I
had auditioned for everything, and I had small parts here
and there, and so when I did the audition, I
always got the name of the exec producer, the producer,
and the casting director and would stay in touch with
these people. And so I called them because I knew
they were like four weeks out, and I said, have
(06:43):
you chosen anybody? Said no, but we're trying to side
spuning you and one other guy. And I said, well
what's the difference And they said, well, you've never worked
with kids, and I said, well, I have kids. He said, well,
it's irrelevant, and I said, well, I did magic shows
for kids that we don't care. So I said, well,
why don't you fly me and whoever this other guy
is to New York put us in a student with
live kids and made the best man win. So that's
what they did. And after I did it, two days later,
(07:05):
they called me and they said you got the job,
and I said, why after two thousand people? And this
other guy did I get the job? And he said?
The other guy was okay, But at the end of
his audition he looked in the camera and said, am
I done? You want me to do something else? And
when I got done, I looked at the camera and
I said, and we'll be back with doubledare after this.
And because I threw to commercial, that changed my life.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh okay, there's another chapter. So you're reading all the
chapters now know who.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To do a book?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You said you're doing this at City Winery, right, yes,
My question is is if it sells out another?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Okay? So then were you going to do one show?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well? No, I'm here to tell the world on your
show that we are going to announce now we're going
to do a pay per view. Oh nice, that way,
I only have to do it once now and now
you can finally pay off that kitchen. And you just
built it in your bathroom about that, No, no, he
just builtom.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Hey, speaking of where you live, who was your neighbor?
Nould people out there always have interesting neighbors, u Oprah
to Oprah?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, Oh my god, got up.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I thought there when you could afford to live there,
I you know, I could never afford to live there now,
I mean right, yeah, Jennifer Aniston's across from me. I
have Well, there's people up there that you know, the
prince and the princesses that are up there, and oh
my god, yeah, Dennie Miller. I have lunch with Dennis
Miller on a fairly regularly. There you go. He's not
dropping names on the floor when you ask, for God's sake. Yeah,
(08:33):
you know what, if you're gonna if you're gonna work
in the entertainment business in Los Angeles, you need to
not live in living up there's a way to go. Yeah,
but it's it's gotten crazy expression. After the fires and
the palisades, the phone started ringing and people would drop
notes in my mailbox wanting to buy my house for
an exhorbitant amounts of money because I guess they could.
(08:54):
I have no plans on moving anywhere, but I was
very lucky to get in when I did. Look at that.
It is beautiful up there. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hey, if you want Mark Summers, by the way, Mark
Summers is here, and I gotta do the radio thing
Double Dare the fortieth anniversary Reunions, happening October fourth at
City Winery in Philadelphia. We'll talk about tickets in a moment.
People are already texting about them. Say oh really, look
me screaming at the radio. I want to meet Mark Summers.
(09:21):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
If someone invites you to come onto their podcast, yes,
you say, well, you have to submit five questions I've
never been asked. Yes, and if you do that, I
will agree to come in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Why is that? Are you tired of answering the same
stupid questions? Yes? How many times can I talk about
you know, house line made and all that kind of
didn't we just do that here? But here's the deal,
what is going on here? Most people, Nate and I
were talking about this. Everybody's got a podcast now, and
most people aren't particularly good at it. So what I
say is some of your best shows, which of course
they pretty much don't have. And then I say, if
(09:55):
you can come up with five questions that I've never
been asked, happy to do it, and most PEO people
don't even try.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh there's five of us, there's five of us. Let's
each come up and think of think it through during
the rest of this conversation, and then we will give
you the five questions we think you've never been asked.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's odd, but you see.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That this is a bad room to do that in. Yeah,
because we're gonna We're gonna take it to the limit. Man,
if we've already talked about fluffing and I don't know
where we're going from here, there's so many places we
can go. Let me read these text messages.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I always wanted to be on Double dare as a kid.
Now almost fifty, my body would give would give out,
try and all that stuff, reaching up a nose and
grabbing a flag.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Good morning, Happy hump Day. I love listening to this.
I was about eight years old. I was at Universal Studios.
Had an opportunity to get slimed for something that has
to do with Nickelodeon. I can confirm it was Apple sauce.
Oh good, I'm screaming at my radio. I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I wish Mark would read a book to me on
on Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You have a good voice for it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Thank you do that well? Looking at these people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It is the anniversary going to be televised well, he
just told us, Now, what do you mean it's going
to be a paper?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
How we are going to record the show and edit
it to a normal rate, because who knows how long
this thing is going to go. We do it live
and it will launch on Halloween night. I figured it
would be a great night to do it, and so
we're excited about that. Mark Summers live dot com and
you'll get all the information coming up there. So that's
very cool. And so you know, I got to keep working, man,
I gotta keep things on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, I'm out of money. We're talking about this
the other day. I'm out of money. You know how
sometimes if you're online too much and too long. Yeah,
you run out of internet. You've seen it all. I'm
out of cash, you're not. I'm gonna keep working like you. Well,
you know, here's the deal. They just because of where
I live, they cancel my homeowners insurance and then they
want to raise it to eighty thousand dollars a year. Okay,
(11:43):
well it's a dangerous place to live, well apparently so.
And I don't have eighty thousand dollars a year for that.
So you know, luckily, my insurance guy got it fixed.
But the cost of everything, I don't have to tell
you guys, is insane. Well, okay, let's talk about all generations.
We talk about this all the time on our show
at Gandhi, people asking, well, how come no one's traveling anymore?
How come no one's going out to eat anymore?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's simple, who can afford it? No one's money, You
can't afford it. But I was just up in Cooperstown.
My grandson was playing baseball up there, and I took
a bunch of people to dinner there one night. The
prices in Cooperstown, New York are about half of what
you spend in Los Angeles, so at least that's semi normal.
I love these frozen cokes at McDonald's, and in LA
there's six seven bucks. I got one the other day
(12:25):
in a Cooperstown two dollars and sixteen. It depends on
where you are, you know. We read this morning that
New York City no longer the most expensive city. Miami
is now topping. Everyone's moved there. Get Lee Schragger on
the phone.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, not even least Fragger can't afford to live there anymore.
And I'm reading today the headline New York Post shocking
one hundred and five million Americans are not working, and
that's more people out of work than during COVID. It's frightening,
and it's just it's all, it's all kind of tricky,
and with all these mergers and people's jobs are disappearing.
(12:58):
In the cost of doing the shows that has been diminished,
and they're not paying the employees as much, and it's
a really hard time. It is. It's right, that's why
we need entertainment, yess why we need things like Double Dare,
We need things like our stupid show.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
So when this reunion happens, there are going to be
events like people are going to be competing.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh yes, what's the age Dreams that you're looking for
to well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Because it's at a bar. Luckily it's twenty one plus. Okay.
But the thing about it is the last time I
did the tour, which was like four or five years ago,
we would do meet Greach backstage and people would show
up and I say, where your kids? They said, oh, hell,
we left them at home. We want to have a
good time on our own. Absolutely, So it's these people
reliving their childhood. That's what it's all about. Well, that's
the thing. We've talked about this before since this show
has been on for thirty years. During the morning show here, you.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Walk down the street in New York and you get
someone going, oh my god, I used to listen to you,
and I'm a great great great grandkids listening to.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You, and now I'm crazy. The thing is is, now, you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Know you, Mark are a part of childhood history for
a lot of certain extents. But I love listening to
your show. My friend Anthony Ramos was on the other day,
and you guys love him. Oh he's the best. I
always listen with Bobby Flay is on because you guys
have a great rapport listening with Lee's on. So you're entertaining, okay,
And because all these podcasts exists, you realize how bad
(14:10):
they are and how spectacular you guys. Well, I challenge
there are two podcasts I want you to start listening to.
First of all, Danielle, who grew up a Disney princess
all her lot and a fan of Broadway shows. She
goes to three Broadway shows a week. She's now doing
a podcast, tell them what You're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's called Behind the Magic. It's the official Disney on
Broadway podcast. So we go behind the stage, like today,
I'm going to Aladdin to hang out with the Genie.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
To see what he does to get ready to go
out on the stage.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So I get to talk about the cool things that
you don't always get to see and know about all
the Disney magic.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's what makes a podcast great. It does it's something
She's passionate. If you don't have passion, there's no reason
to get up any morning. You know. I hate the
fact that people go to work every day and hate
their jobs. I'm going to bet that everybody in this
room feels they've never worked a day in their life.
That's why I feel every now.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
The other podcast is Sauce on the Side, Gandhi's podcast.
This thing is, it's whack. I mean, tell me, well, okay,
tell him how you tell him how you prepare for
your podcast?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't so, I really, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I mean, if we have a guest, of course, I'm
gonna look up, you know, information about Adam Levine or
whoever it is that's coming on. But we like to
just shoot the crap all the time, and we call
it I call it sauce on the side because it's,
in my opinion, it's like a supplement to this show.
So the things that we don't talk about here that
I want to talk about, we talk about there. The topics,
the you know, subject matter. It gets a little launchy,
(15:38):
like to start, yeah, like to start fights with people.
Elvis and his husband are featured today. Start the pot
It was great.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Wow, Well, by the way, is he on the floor?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
All those names in your phone too? Can you?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So then the about her podcast and some of her
guests were so intriguing. Now they have podcasts a mother
and daughter, Yes have this podcast that tell them about
the podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
It's called Mother Knows Death and yes she is uh
a like an assistant to people who do autopsies, and
they everything that they do is all about death, what happened,
how they dissect it, what we were told by the media,
and what they believe based on their own information, reading
(16:29):
the autopsy reports and the that they pulled from it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's fascinating, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They actually make it funny, kind of weird. Who's the
one guess you would want on that you haven't gotten yet?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
That I haven't gotten yet Bill and I the science guy.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Good, good choice.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
For my podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I just want to continue to go and do all
the Disney shows. I want to go to London and
I wanted to cover a lot of the shows in
the London you know, the and the you know over there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Also, if you're so into Disney, you should try to
get Walt Disney himself.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know, he passed a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That would be a good get. Yeah, it Ted Williams
head it was frozen. But yeah, but I don't think
there's Ted Williams a baseball player. They froze his head. Yeah, yeah,
well they freeze his head because they want to bring
him back to life. Oh this is so ridiculous. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think it's pretty real.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That'd be an interesting basic.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
There other celebrities they said they froze, like to bring
them back to life in a different days.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, Mark, do you have a podcast?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I did, and I just stopped doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
No, passion didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, I absolutely loved it. But it's harder and harder
to book, and the people who were behind it didn't
have the dough to hire somebody. So it was basically
calling all my friends and trying to get him on.
And that was great and we got a lot of
great it's still on. It's called Mark Summer's Unwraps and uh,
I did about fifty of them and it was Kevin Pollack,
one of my best guests. He was spectacular, a lot
(17:56):
of good people. Uh, Anthony Ramos did it and I
enjoyed doing it. But I didn't make any money. And
I called Elvis and said, you know, what should I do?
And I basically said, we don't have any money. Yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I know, and it just but so does everybody. And
I don't know how you break through.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So who would your dream guests have been?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, that's a good one. They're all dead now, so
I don't know. I'm just trying to think.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That makes it more intriguing podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I can't think off the top of my head
of cow. Yeah, the ultimate interviewer. Have you had him
on the show on the phone?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay, So the challenge was come up with a question
that Mark Summers have never been asked, and if we
get five of them, he will be on our podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, Scary already has his question you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Know that he's being truthful.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, Well there's a chance he will not be okay,
but that's that's a chance we roll those dice.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
What is your question, mark?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
If I gave you an unlimited budget to make an
X rated version of Double There, what would.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Be the first chilenge that you would put into effect? Well,
there's a question I've never been asked. Ring the bell
scary a new meaning to the word physical challenge. Yes, okay,
got it? Okay, Yes, a good question, I think. Okay,
who elsewer that was?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
That was theate?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Would have to be there in fluff with me? I
don't know. I have a have a question.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
A question was all right, what is a conspiracy theory
that you used to think was insane but now you
don't think it's so crazy anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's a lot of them. Yeah, certainly the Kennedy assassination,
you know what really happened there? And I was living
during the time when you know, Robert Kennedy and Martin
Luther King in that whole time, So that was a
crazy time to be alive. And why did that happen?
And what was behind that? Was the government behind it?
Was it? What they really said? So that that would
(19:54):
be something I'd really be interested in.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, to hear more about that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
All right, does anyone to have a question? Ready? Yes,
Nate and you? Yeah, I can't turn your microphone, Garry Kitty.
I don't know how to do this right here? You go?
All right, Mark, what is a question you really want
to be asked? And what would the answer be to that?
I don't want to be asked anything. I don't think that.
I've been asked everything. I can't think of it. You know,
(20:17):
I'm not that interesting? Yes, you are you kidding? We
talked for fifteen minutes of the green room. We missed
the start of the yearning because I was so fascinated
by this. Yeah, I don't know, you know. I just
do what I do and if you like, and I
couldn't be happier. And it's been working for forty plus years,
so good for me. But yeah, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Danielle, You've been in the business a very long time,
so I guess you've been asked to do lots of things,
lots of different things.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Is there something that you were asked to do that
you were like, there is no way in hell I
would ever do that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I can't think of one thing that I've been asked
to do that I'm I'm a television horror I guess
I pretty much said yesterday everything. So no, I can't
think of any much I would turn down. I mean,
certainly I'm not going to do a thing pointographic or
something like that. But no, I well, I'm sure there's
an audience for it. Ye Foggy, do you have one?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
I do so if they hated you, the keys to
Nickelodeon today and you could create your own game show
that's different than double There. Obviously, what is the game
show you would create for kids today? Well, you know,
they don't even talk to kids anymore. They do SpongeBob
and that's about it. There's no production people over there.
There's no anybody over there, so that's sad. But I
would do a show that, you know, would build on
(21:29):
the fact that kids should be reading and you know,
educating themselves and do sort of a mini Jeopardy kind
of situation.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I would do no slime. I would talk about being
smart is a good thing and will lead you to
terrific things in your life, and that's the kind of
thing I think should be on television, but sadly is
not okay. I have mine, Yes, sir, so being a
student and a member of show business at entertainment back
in the day and now you still can and are.
(22:00):
What is it we could do today to take it
back to the excitement that we had back then, because
if you're Gandhi's age or some people's age, you don't
understand that what that excitement means. The thing is that
was all diluted because there are so many different places
to get content now. Back in the day, you had
three TV networks and that was it. Yeah, you had ABC,
NBCCBS and PBS. Here's the difference, and I'll get clabbard
(22:24):
and social media will beat me to death.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Go.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
There were celebrities when we would do Sonny and Cherr,
when we do Carol Burnett, there were stars that came
on the show that you couldn't wait to see. When
Sammy Davis came on All in the Family, it was
an oh my god moment. And you know, I work
the James Cagney AFI Dinner and Sinatra was there and
it was just insane. Now there are things called influencers,
(22:49):
and I have no idea what that's all about. Now
I'm going to be seventy five years old. I do
not relate to what it is that those folks do.
And so that's the difference. Because stars, to people maybe
your age and younger, are influencers and to a person
my age, and I guess I'm out of that demo,
(23:09):
it means nothing to me. So there's no real you know,
Tom Hanks is the last big movie store in my estimation, Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I know what the scary thing is years from now?
What are they going to say Ai? Oh yeah, say
an Ai person, that's my favorite girl.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's happening now?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Scary?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I mean, but we have stars, but the big stars
now are your tatar swifts. Yes, we do have those,
but but it's not like a variety of Back then,
they had variety shows.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You would come out and host and someone would come
out and sing. Then someone would come out and do
a stand up routine, and someone would come out and
do a skit.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
They don't have those in anything. All summer long, there
would be a variety shows with you know, Tony Orlando
and Dawn and folks like that. Old stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, I remember that too, Donny and Marie Marie.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So I was not donn physically on top of them.
I was in the middle. It was quite a Yeah.
Were your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Oh no, I just I think maybe accessibility is what
has changed, because you couldn't get a hold of all
these stars, so you have to watch them on the TV.
And now you could DM somebody and maybe get a
DM or response back.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And that's how people get in touch with me. And
that's how I get in touch with a lot of
people as well, because the positive thing of social media
is you can pretty much get to anybody.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Can I ask one more question?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Absolutely, please do your worst celebrity neighbor? Who do you
want to move away?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You have one, We've talked about it. I can't think
of anybody. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Here's the thing about that celebrity beef. What's that celebrity
beef you've had? You've had skirmishes with other celebrities and
it was it was public.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well, yeah, the Burt Reynolds sing of the Tonight Show
is so are sort of insane? Yeah, so that was
kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you have political differences with people and it's become
sort of somewhat public.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah. Dennis Miller and I don't get along when it
comes to those kinds of things, and so we had
a sort of a truce and said, we will never
talk about our political, you know, beliefs. And that's why
we continue to have lunches, because you know, we're never
going to agree and if you can't agree, and you know,
I try to be open minded, but sometimes it's not
(25:13):
that easy. And I guess it's the same on his side,
but in Gandhi's and Gandhi's fair.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And to be fair with Gandhi, she asked a great question,
who's an awful neighbor?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And we know who they are. You know, first of all,
Adam Levine. I've never met Adam. He's not the nicest guy. No, no, Well,
it's funny. There's an old clip from MTV where he
talks about how much he admires me, and I've tried
to get in touch with him seventeen times. Apparently he
doesn't care his neighbor. His grandfather was a man by
the name of Bob Noah who created so many game
(25:43):
shows in the fifties and sixties, who was responsible actually
for me becoming a host. And I thought that alone
would help. He could care less, So I've never I've
never spoken to him.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
If you're baking and you need to borrow a cup
of sugar.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, I was telling Nate that when I first moved in,
I was on OPRA three times and I fed Exter
and I said, Hi, you may not remember me, and
I sent pictures of when I was on the show
with her, and I said, I'm now across the street.
If you'd like a cup of sugar or some milk,
I'm here. Of course, she's not responding. I will. Did
I tell you the story when she never got back
to it. She never got back to me. Did I
tell you the time when Oprah was walking your dog?
Did I tell the story?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay, So I see her and she's in exercising and
she waves all the time and I wave back, and
I thought, you know what, I've never got a chance
to talk to her. So she was walking the dog
and I got out of my car and I ran
upstairs to get my dog. And I stood at the
end of my driveway because I knew she has to
walk by my house, and you have a dog. I
have a dog, So it's a conversation right there, right away.
(26:38):
And I figured, well, she'll walk by me and I'll
say hi, Oprah. Remember when I did your show. So
I'm waiting. I'm waiting and waiting. I don't say finally
she's coming. Now, when Oprah walks, there's a security person,
then there's Oprah. Then there's a person behind who walks
the dog, and then there's another security person. Okay, So
she's coming up the street, and I guess the security
people saw me, so instead of going by my driving,
(26:59):
they may right turn. Okay, So now I know the
neighborhood great because I walks every day. So now I
don't want to look like a jackass. So I started
walking really fast okay, And the guys are looking behind
and and I get to a point and they go
up this one road which I know doesn't go anywhere.
There's two houses there and then there's a gate. You
have her trapped, yes, So I figured I'm not going
to go up there. That'll look stupid. I'll wait till
(27:21):
she comes back down the driveway and I'll say hi, Oprah.
So she goes down the street and they're looking. They
see me there, and this gate that I've never seen
open all of a sudden opened and Oprah walked in
eskatee case. Yeah, apparently that's part of her property as well.
When there's creeps like you and her dogs, she doesn't
want to talk to guys like me. Apparently we've been talking.
(27:44):
Oprah is the bad neighbor does a lot for a community.
I must say, she's always there. She has a bookstore
now and near. She calls her house the Promised Land.
Yeah she does. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
By the way, we're gonna talk all about Double There
in fortyth anniverse. We had to get tickets in one second.
Let's talk to Lendsay High Lendsay, is there something I want
to say?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Tomorrow? Summers and good morning?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I just want to say thank you so much for
being such a massive.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Part of my childhood.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I grew up in the nineties and the one thing
that my brother and I used to look forward to
every single day was going home and watching Double There
and What.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Would You Do?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
You are very kind, such a massive part.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
A lot of people love What Would You Do even
more than Double Deer and uh I listen, I'm glad
anybody watched, but I love here. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
I'm thirty six, thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Six, so you're on the young end. Of the folks
who grew up watching me. That means so much to
me that you say that and you still have those memories,
and it means a lot to me, trust me. There
you go.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
It was the best I wanted to go on that
pie coaster.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Every single That's so cool. I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, thank you very much, Thanks so much for calling
verson listening. Let's talk about it. Double Dare of forty
tent Versary Reunion. If you're listening to us on Q
one or two in Philly, or if you're anywhere near
driving distance, it's happening October fourth. It's City Winery in Philadelphia. Now,
how do we get in to see that? We have
ten tickets left? So get online. Oh my god, that's it.
There's already there's a probably you're not here to sell
(29:07):
a ticket. I know we're here talking about pay per
view and uh yeah, so that's it. You go to
March Summer's Live dot com and there'll be information coming
up about the pay per view event, which we'll launch
on a Halloween night. It's really inexpensive and we're only
charging twenty five bucks because I think everybody should be
able to do it. It's got to take care of
our costs and all that kind of stuff. Nobody's making
any money off this deal, which it's the way it
(29:28):
should be. You know, I no, not at all. I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Really have no money anymore?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Right? That is a polybus right down, Mark Summers. How
many homes do you have now? I don't know. I
want to know why you don't have any money?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So you have a place in Florida? Now, then you
have a place in what New Mexico? Now you've got
a place here out of money? Where's the Where's where
in Jersey? Toot? Why do you have a place in Jersey? If?
Good God, I had no idea. This is not an
interview with me, it's you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Okay, you're there in Seacrest World. Now let's all go.
He's got a winery in Tuscany. It's for sale, is
it really? Let's all go to Mark Summer's Mark Summers
live dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
See. I'm listening to what you're saying. What I never
heard Elvis want to go to break so fast? I
hate going to break, but right now, God please, but
because breakings never been invited to any of these places. Wow,
I come here. I always stay in touch with him.
I drive the poor man nuts. I apologize for that.
You do not. I don't give yourself that much credit.
(30:34):
You do not drive me nuts. That's what we do.
But you know some but every time I'm here, he goes, oh,
I'm not gonna be here. I've got I'm going here.
I'm going there. So I've never been to one of his,
this palatial estate. Somebody I can get there to the compound,
shoes off. When I come in, there's all compound and.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Shoes are welcome. Okay, Mark Summers Live. If you want
to be a part of the any of these a
little bit. It's high blood pressure for guys like me,
come on the show. Thanks anyway, Mark summers Live dot com. Yes, sir,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
And I know I'm standing on show. I'm telling you
I'll stand absolutely. Can you come on? Just reading reading
the things people have to say on text.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Just it's really I'm telling you you really should look
into this book thing and reading it yourself on audible
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
They're saying that the ten tickets are gone. It sold up.
Sorry about that. A good thing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We knew we could sell ten tickets. All right, Mark Summers,
thank you for thank you all.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You're the best.
Mark show that. I'm like, you know what?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:05):
What you know?
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is what I want to about you TV people.
Can I just bitch and moan?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
You can do anything you want to show the show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
TV is always on time. You're never late for TV.
But radio you just song her in snort.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I got here twenty five to eight o'clock and I
was talking to this nice gentleman, Nate Pro. Is he
in there fluffing you? What's he he do? Fluffing me? Wow?
I had no idea if I would have been here
earlier today, had I've known that was part of our service?
So what am I? Mark Summers is here? Wait, hold on,
(00:37):
hold on, hold on right here? Oh my look at that?
And there it is follows me throughout my.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Life, the double dare theme, freshly from being fluffered, fluffered.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Mark Summers is here? Who wrote this? Ed k Loff,
who wrote many themes the Price is Right? And the
thing about this was he wanted to put the word
double do in there, so when you think it's double ed,
there dun duh du double And so he put that
in it, and uh yeah, he's he's a pro and
still around doing this stuff. Wow. There you go.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
See you've been around Hollywood for so many years, you
know all these these these people who did things like
the set designer from the nineteen seventies. Yeah, like when
you watch Match Game, it has that big orange shag carpet.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I was the head page on Match Game when I
was over there at CBS. Really well, you seat the audience,
take tickets and work with the celebrities. And I remember
Geen Rayburn is how long ago?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
This was?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Jean Rayburn's mother came to the show and she was
this little old woman And Jean says, Mark, would you
take my mother out there? Uh to see her and
take care of it? And I said sure. And as
I'm walking out the door, Jean says to me, and
try not to grab her ass. So, I mean he's
kind of a guy. Wow. Right, Shenanigans have always existed
in Hollywood apparently, so, and that show that we would
(01:56):
do three and then he would break for lunch. And
the last two shows were a little crazy as they were,
you know, drinking a bit backstage during those things.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, you can watch the old masch game Gone. Did
you ever watch the old match games?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Want to? Yeah, they're really great in.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
These and they they have the panel of comedians or celebrities,
and some of them, you know, I don't even know
if they were relevant back then really, but they'ren't.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Relevant now because they're on match Game. But Jean Rayburn, the.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Charles Nelson Riley was you gott to see him to understand.
But Geene Rayburn, the host, had this microphone because back
then you have to hold microphones that were on a wire, right,
and it was this telescoping microphone.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
It was like this tall Yes, what was it?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Like the Bob Barker the exact.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Same thing has had those. They got a sale on
them someway. So that was a great time to work
there there. I worked on the Sonny and Share Show,
and I did Sonny Show the last show, well the
last show, the announcement had been made that they were divorcing,
and she was in her dressing room and he was
in his dressing room, and Sonny didn't want it to end.
(03:00):
We were there till like two o'clock in the morning
because he just didn't want to finish it because you
knew it was over. Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
That reminds me of my mom, because my mom and
I would watch that together as the Sunny and Share show.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It meant so much to me, girl, I did you
I worked on Carol Burnett show All in the Family. Yeah, wow, Wow,
Well I got the rear end of real television.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You know. I really cool. Eby you had sex with
Charles Nelson.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Riley, not that I remember. But Nates left me, so
maybe he did. I don't know it all right, So
Mark is here for many reason. Number one, he's a friend.
Number two, he's got a big announcement. But I think
I just made your announcement that kind of I don't know. Well, Well,
the big anniversary of phil.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Fortieth anniversary of Double Deer, which is hard to believe.
We launched October sixth, nineteen eighty six, and on October
fourth in Philadelphia, our hometown city, We're going to do
a live anniversary show with Robin who was my assistant, Harvard,
who was our announcer at kay Lov, who wrote our music,
is going to be there. We're going to show video
that people have never seen. We're going to do physical challenges.
Are you going to be slime? Yes?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
And the big nose, the big nose with the fags?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
You the thing that you remember? Isn't that interesting? Yeah,
well you don't.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Remember the big nose and you had to go up
there and grabs to reach out to.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
The nostrils because there was slime.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, no, I was.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I didn't watch I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Where were you not alive?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
She wasn't. How old are.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
You not that old? And I also didn't watch TV
until I was like fifteen?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
So still yeah, it was like a Dutch why you're smart?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
But no, thanks, I appreciate it, but no, I mean
like they all watched it, right, and they loved it.
But I will live vicariously through them.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It sounds amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
See this is how old I am. Yeah, doubledare is
after my time? Yeah, you you were not our audience
at the time that she was.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It on started nineteen eighty six to ninety four, okay,
but we toured it where I was a rock star
for kid. I was selling out twenty thousand seed arenas
across the country, which was something I who would have
thought that would have happened, And it just was exciting.
I got to do a lot of things that normally,
you know, I wouldn't. I was one step out the door.
I had opened a smoked salmon business because I thought
my TV career was never going to happen. We started
(05:15):
selling to a place called the Price Club, which became Costco.
We were doing eighty thousand pounds a month, and then
I auditioned for Double Dor. They had auditioned a thousand
people in New York, didn't like anybody. I was the
first one to audition in Los Angeles, and ninety days
later I got the job.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Crazy, I have a book out because I would read this.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Let me read this.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
We hear a chapter every time he's on. Finding all
of your stories in one book would be fascina.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Why have you not done this? Yeah, I don't think
anybody reads any more, that's true.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Audible you you, Audible would.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Be you, you reading the story would be remarkable. That's
interesting to think. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Also keep in mind another thing is doubledare is what
put Nickelodeon on the map. That's where slime came from.
What is in slim? What's the active ingredient in theide god?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Back in the day, it was apple sauce and green
food coloring and vanilla pudding and a little bit of oatmeal.
Because the ink company insurance companies wanted to make sure
they've gotten the kid's mouths they could eat it. Well,
now when we brought it back, it's this real scientific
stuff and you can change the viscosity of it and
do you want to thin or do you want to
(06:22):
thick and all that kind of stuff. And you know,
at that point, I was thirty four years old. I
had auditioned for everything, and I had small parts here
and there, and so when I did the audition, I
always got the name of the exec producer, the producer,
and the casting director and would stay in touch with
these people. And so I called them because I knew
they were like four weeks out, and I said, have
(06:43):
you chosen anybody? Said no, but we're trying to side
spuning you and one other guy. And I said, well
what's the difference And they said, well, you've never worked
with kids, and I said, well, I have kids. He said, well,
it's irrelevant, and I said, well, I did magic shows
for kids that we don't care. So I said, well,
why don't you fly me and whoever this other guy
is to New York put us in a student with
live kids and made the best man win. So that's
what they did. And after I did it, two days later,
(07:05):
they called me and they said you got the job,
and I said, why after two thousand people? And this
other guy did I get the job? And he said?
The other guy was okay, But at the end of
his audition he looked in the camera and said, am
I done? You want me to do something else? And
when I got done, I looked at the camera and
I said, and we'll be back with doubledare after this.
And because I threw to commercial, that changed my life.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh okay, there's another chapter. So you're reading all the
chapters now know who.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
To do a book?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
You said you're doing this at City Winery, right, yes,
My question is is if it sells out another?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Okay? So then were you going to do one show?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well? No, I'm here to tell the world on your
show that we are going to announce now we're going
to do a pay per view. Oh nice, that way,
I only have to do it once now and now
you can finally pay off that kitchen. And you just
built it in your bathroom about that, No, no, he
just builtom.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Hey, speaking of where you live, who was your neighbor?
Nould people out there always have interesting neighbors, u Oprah
to Oprah?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, Oh my god, got up.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I thought there when you could afford to live there,
I you know, I could never afford to live there now,
I mean right, yeah, Jennifer Aniston's across from me. I
have Well, there's people up there that you know, the
prince and the princesses that are up there, and oh
my god, yeah, Dennie Miller. I have lunch with Dennis
Miller on a fairly regularly. There you go. He's not
dropping names on the floor when you ask, for God's sake. Yeah,
(08:33):
you know what, if you're gonna if you're gonna work
in the entertainment business in Los Angeles, you need to
not live in living up there's a way to go. Yeah,
but it's it's gotten crazy expression. After the fires and
the palisades, the phone started ringing and people would drop
notes in my mailbox wanting to buy my house for
an exhorbitant amounts of money because I guess they could.
(08:54):
I have no plans on moving anywhere, but I was
very lucky to get in when I did. Look at that.
It is beautiful up there. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hey, if you want Mark Summers, by the way, Mark
Summers is here, and I gotta do the radio thing
Double Dare the fortieth anniversary Reunions, happening October fourth at
City Winery in Philadelphia. We'll talk about tickets in a moment.
People are already texting about them. Say oh really, look
me screaming at the radio. I want to meet Mark Summers.
(09:21):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Is it true?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
If someone invites you to come onto their podcast, yes,
you say, well, you have to submit five questions I've
never been asked. Yes, and if you do that, I
will agree to come in your pocket?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Why is that? Are you tired of answering the same
stupid questions? Yes? How many times can I talk about
you know, house line made and all that kind of
didn't we just do that here? But here's the deal,
what is going on here? Most people, Nate and I
were talking about this. Everybody's got a podcast now, and
most people aren't particularly good at it. So what I
say is some of your best shows, which of course
they pretty much don't have. And then I say, if
(09:55):
you can come up with five questions that I've never
been asked, happy to do it, and most PEO people
don't even try.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Oh there's five of us, there's five of us. Let's
each come up and think of think it through during
the rest of this conversation, and then we will give
you the five questions we think you've never been asked.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, that's odd, but you see.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That this is a bad room to do that in. Yeah,
because we're gonna We're gonna take it to the limit. Man,
if we've already talked about fluffing and I don't know
where we're going from here, there's so many places we
can go. Let me read these text messages.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I always wanted to be on Double dare as a kid.
Now almost fifty, my body would give would give out,
try and all that stuff, reaching up a nose and
grabbing a flag.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You can do it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Good morning, Happy hump Day. I love listening to this.
I was about eight years old. I was at Universal Studios.
Had an opportunity to get slimed for something that has
to do with Nickelodeon. I can confirm it was Apple sauce.
Oh good, I'm screaming at my radio. I love it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I wish Mark would read a book to me on
on Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
You have a good voice for it.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Thank you do that well? Looking at these people.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
It is the anniversary going to be televised well, he
just told us, Now, what do you mean it's going
to be a paper?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
How we are going to record the show and edit
it to a normal rate, because who knows how long
this thing is going to go. We do it live
and it will launch on Halloween night. I figured it
would be a great night to do it, and so
we're excited about that. Mark Summers live dot com and
you'll get all the information coming up there. So that's
very cool. And so you know, I got to keep working, man,
I gotta keep things on the calendar.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, I'm out of money. We're talking about this
the other day. I'm out of money. You know how
sometimes if you're online too much and too long. Yeah,
you run out of internet. You've seen it all. I'm
out of cash, you're not. I'm gonna keep working like you. Well,
you know, here's the deal. They just because of where
I live, they cancel my homeowners insurance and then they
want to raise it to eighty thousand dollars a year. Okay,
(11:43):
well it's a dangerous place to live, well apparently so.
And I don't have eighty thousand dollars a year for that.
So you know, luckily, my insurance guy got it fixed.
But the cost of everything, I don't have to tell
you guys, is insane. Well, okay, let's talk about all generations.
We talk about this all the time on our show
at Gandhi, people asking, well, how come no one's traveling anymore?
How come no one's going out to eat anymore?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
It's simple, who can afford it? No one's money, You
can't afford it. But I was just up in Cooperstown.
My grandson was playing baseball up there, and I took
a bunch of people to dinner there one night. The
prices in Cooperstown, New York are about half of what
you spend in Los Angeles, so at least that's semi normal.
I love these frozen cokes at McDonald's, and in LA
there's six seven bucks. I got one the other day
(12:25):
in a Cooperstown two dollars and sixteen. It depends on
where you are, you know. We read this morning that
New York City no longer the most expensive city. Miami
is now topping. Everyone's moved there. Get Lee Schragger on
the phone.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, not even least Fragger can't afford to live there anymore.
And I'm reading today the headline New York Post shocking
one hundred and five million Americans are not working, and
that's more people out of work than during COVID. It's frightening,
and it's just it's all, it's all kind of tricky,
and with all these mergers and people's jobs are disappearing.
(12:58):
In the cost of doing the shows that has been diminished,
and they're not paying the employees as much, and it's
a really hard time. It is. It's right, that's why
we need entertainment, yess why we need things like Double Dare,
We need things like our stupid show.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
So when this reunion happens, there are going to be
events like people are going to be competing.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh yes, what's the age Dreams that you're looking for
to well.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Because it's at a bar. Luckily it's twenty one plus. Okay.
But the thing about it is the last time I
did the tour, which was like four or five years ago,
we would do meet Greach backstage and people would show
up and I say, where your kids? They said, oh, hell,
we left them at home. We want to have a
good time on our own. Absolutely, So it's these people
reliving their childhood. That's what it's all about. Well, that's
the thing. We've talked about this before since this show
has been on for thirty years. During the morning show here, you.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Walk down the street in New York and you get
someone going, oh my god, I used to listen to you,
and I'm a great great great grandkids listening to.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
You, and now I'm crazy. The thing is is, now, you.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Know you, Mark are a part of childhood history for
a lot of certain extents. But I love listening to
your show. My friend Anthony Ramos was on the other day,
and you guys love him. Oh he's the best. I
always listen with Bobby Flay is on because you guys
have a great rapport listening with Lee's on. So you're entertaining, okay,
And because all these podcasts exists, you realize how bad
(14:10):
they are and how spectacular you guys. Well, I challenge
there are two podcasts I want you to start listening to.
First of all, Danielle, who grew up a Disney princess
all her lot and a fan of Broadway shows. She
goes to three Broadway shows a week. She's now doing
a podcast, tell them what You're doing.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It's called Behind the Magic. It's the official Disney on
Broadway podcast. So we go behind the stage, like today,
I'm going to Aladdin to hang out with the Genie.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
To see what he does to get ready to go
out on the stage.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
So I get to talk about the cool things that
you don't always get to see and know about all
the Disney magic.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
That's what makes a podcast great. It does it's something
She's passionate. If you don't have passion, there's no reason
to get up any morning. You know. I hate the
fact that people go to work every day and hate
their jobs. I'm going to bet that everybody in this
room feels they've never worked a day in their life.
That's why I feel every now.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Depends on the day.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
The other podcast is Sauce on the Side, Gandhi's podcast.
This thing is, it's whack. I mean, tell me, well, okay,
tell him how you tell him how you prepare for
your podcast?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I don't so, I really, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
I mean, if we have a guest, of course, I'm
gonna look up, you know, information about Adam Levine or
whoever it is that's coming on. But we like to
just shoot the crap all the time, and we call
it I call it sauce on the side because it's,
in my opinion, it's like a supplement to this show.
So the things that we don't talk about here that
I want to talk about, we talk about there. The topics,
the you know, subject matter. It gets a little launchy,
(15:38):
like to start, yeah, like to start fights with people.
Elvis and his husband are featured today. Start the pot
It was great.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Wow, Well, by the way, is he on the floor?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
All those names in your phone too? Can you?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
So then the about her podcast and some of her
guests were so intriguing. Now they have podcasts a mother
and daughter, Yes have this podcast that tell them about
the podcast.
Speaker 5 (16:09):
It's called Mother Knows Death and yes she is uh
a like an assistant to people who do autopsies, and
they everything that they do is all about death, what happened,
how they dissect it, what we were told by the media,
and what they believe based on their own information, reading
(16:29):
the autopsy reports and the that they pulled from it.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's fascinating, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
They actually make it funny, kind of weird. Who's the
one guess you would want on that you haven't gotten yet?
Speaker 5 (16:38):
That I haven't gotten yet Bill and I the science guy.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Good, good choice.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
I would love to have you.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
For my podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I just want to continue to go and do all
the Disney shows. I want to go to London and
I wanted to cover a lot of the shows in
the London you know, the and the you know over there.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Also, if you're so into Disney, you should try to
get Walt Disney himself.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
You know, he passed a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
That would be a good get. Yeah, it Ted Williams
head it was frozen. But yeah, but I don't think
there's Ted Williams a baseball player. They froze his head. Yeah, yeah,
well they freeze his head because they want to bring
him back to life. Oh this is so ridiculous. But yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think it's pretty real.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
That'd be an interesting basic.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
There other celebrities they said they froze, like to bring
them back to life in a different days.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, Mark, do you have a podcast?
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I did, and I just stopped doing it.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
No, passion didn't like it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
No, I absolutely loved it. But it's harder and harder
to book, and the people who were behind it didn't
have the dough to hire somebody. So it was basically
calling all my friends and trying to get him on.
And that was great and we got a lot of
great it's still on. It's called Mark Summer's Unwraps and uh,
I did about fifty of them and it was Kevin Pollack,
one of my best guests. He was spectacular, a lot
(17:56):
of good people. Uh, Anthony Ramos did it and I
enjoyed doing it. But I didn't make any money. And
I called Elvis and said, you know, what should I do?
And I basically said, we don't have any money. Yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I know, and it just but so does everybody. And
I don't know how you break through.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
So who would your dream guests have been?
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, that's a good one. They're all dead now, so
I don't know. I'm just trying to think.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That makes it more intriguing podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, I can't think off the top of my head
of cow. Yeah, the ultimate interviewer. Have you had him
on the show on the phone?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay, So the challenge was come up with a question
that Mark Summers have never been asked, and if we
get five of them, he will be on our podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Okay, Scary already has his question you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Know that he's being truthful.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Okay, Well there's a chance he will not be okay,
but that's that's a chance we roll those dice.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
What is your question, mark?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
If I gave you an unlimited budget to make an
X rated version of Double There, what would.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Be the first chilenge that you would put into effect? Well,
there's a question I've never been asked. Ring the bell
scary a new meaning to the word physical challenge. Yes, okay,
got it? Okay, Yes, a good question, I think. Okay,
who elsewer that was?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
That was theate?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Would have to be there in fluff with me? I
don't know. I have a have a question.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
A question was all right, what is a conspiracy theory
that you used to think was insane but now you
don't think it's so crazy anymore.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
There's a lot of them. Yeah, certainly the Kennedy assassination,
you know what really happened there? And I was living
during the time when you know, Robert Kennedy and Martin
Luther King in that whole time, So that was a
crazy time to be alive. And why did that happen?
And what was behind that? Was the government behind it?
Was it? What they really said? So that that would
(19:54):
be something I'd really be interested in.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, to hear more about that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
All right, does anyone to have a question? Ready? Yes,
Nate and you? Yeah, I can't turn your microphone, Garry Kitty.
I don't know how to do this right here? You go?
All right, Mark, what is a question you really want
to be asked? And what would the answer be to that?
I don't want to be asked anything. I don't think that.
I've been asked everything. I can't think of it. You know,
(20:17):
I'm not that interesting? Yes, you are you kidding? We
talked for fifteen minutes of the green room. We missed
the start of the yearning because I was so fascinated
by this. Yeah, I don't know, you know. I just
do what I do and if you like, and I
couldn't be happier. And it's been working for forty plus years,
so good for me. But yeah, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Danielle, You've been in the business a very long time,
so I guess you've been asked to do lots of things,
lots of different things.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Is there something that you were asked to do that
you were like, there is no way in hell I
would ever do that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I can't think of one thing that I've been asked
to do that I'm I'm a television horror I guess
I pretty much said yesterday everything. So no, I can't
think of any much I would turn down. I mean,
certainly I'm not going to do a thing pointographic or
something like that. But no, I well, I'm sure there's
an audience for it. Ye Foggy, do you have one?
Speaker 7 (21:08):
I do so if they hated you, the keys to
Nickelodeon today and you could create your own game show
that's different than double There. Obviously, what is the game
show you would create for kids today? Well, you know,
they don't even talk to kids anymore. They do SpongeBob
and that's about it. There's no production people over there.
There's no anybody over there, so that's sad. But I
would do a show that, you know, would build on
(21:29):
the fact that kids should be reading and you know,
educating themselves and do sort of a mini Jeopardy kind
of situation.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I would do no slime. I would talk about being
smart is a good thing and will lead you to
terrific things in your life, and that's the kind of
thing I think should be on television, but sadly is
not okay. I have mine, Yes, sir, so being a
student and a member of show business at entertainment back
in the day and now you still can and are.
(22:00):
What is it we could do today to take it
back to the excitement that we had back then, because
if you're Gandhi's age or some people's age, you don't
understand that what that excitement means. The thing is that
was all diluted because there are so many different places
to get content now. Back in the day, you had
three TV networks and that was it. Yeah, you had ABC,
NBCCBS and PBS. Here's the difference, and I'll get clabbard
(22:24):
and social media will beat me to death.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Go.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
There were celebrities when we would do Sonny and Cherr,
when we do Carol Burnett, there were stars that came
on the show that you couldn't wait to see. When
Sammy Davis came on All in the Family, it was
an oh my god moment. And you know, I work
the James Cagney AFI Dinner and Sinatra was there and
it was just insane. Now there are things called influencers,
(22:49):
and I have no idea what that's all about. Now
I'm going to be seventy five years old. I do
not relate to what it is that those folks do.
And so that's the difference. Because stars, to people maybe
your age and younger, are influencers and to a person
my age, and I guess I'm out of that demo,
(23:09):
it means nothing to me. So there's no real you know,
Tom Hanks is the last big movie store in my estimation, Wow.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I know what the scary thing is years from now?
What are they going to say Ai? Oh yeah, say
an Ai person, that's my favorite girl.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
That's happening now?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Scary?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I mean, but we have stars, but the big stars
now are your tatar swifts. Yes, we do have those,
but but it's not like a variety of Back then,
they had variety shows.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
You would come out and host and someone would come
out and sing. Then someone would come out and do
a stand up routine, and someone would come out and
do a skit.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
They don't have those in anything. All summer long, there
would be a variety shows with you know, Tony Orlando
and Dawn and folks like that. Old stuff.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, I remember that too, Donny and Marie Marie.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So I was not donn physically on top of them.
I was in the middle. It was quite a Yeah.
Were your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Oh no, I just I think maybe accessibility is what
has changed, because you couldn't get a hold of all
these stars, so you have to watch them on the TV.
And now you could DM somebody and maybe get a
DM or response back.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And that's how people get in touch with me. And
that's how I get in touch with a lot of
people as well, because the positive thing of social media
is you can pretty much get to anybody.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Can I ask one more question?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Absolutely, please do your worst celebrity neighbor? Who do you
want to move away?
Speaker 1 (24:30):
You have one, We've talked about it. I can't think
of anybody. You know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Here's the thing about that celebrity beef. What's that celebrity
beef you've had? You've had skirmishes with other celebrities and
it was it was public.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Well, yeah, the Burt Reynolds sing of the Tonight Show
is so are sort of insane? Yeah, so that was
kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you have political differences with people and it's become
sort of somewhat public.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah. Dennis Miller and I don't get along when it
comes to those kinds of things, and so we had
a sort of a truce and said, we will never
talk about our political, you know, beliefs. And that's why
we continue to have lunches, because you know, we're never
going to agree and if you can't agree, and you know,
I try to be open minded, but sometimes it's not
(25:13):
that easy. And I guess it's the same on his side,
but in Gandhi's and Gandhi's fair.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
And to be fair with Gandhi, she asked a great question,
who's an awful neighbor?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And we know who they are. You know, first of all,
Adam Levine. I've never met Adam. He's not the nicest guy. No, no, Well,
it's funny. There's an old clip from MTV where he
talks about how much he admires me, and I've tried
to get in touch with him seventeen times. Apparently he
doesn't care his neighbor. His grandfather was a man by
the name of Bob Noah who created so many game
(25:43):
shows in the fifties and sixties, who was responsible actually
for me becoming a host. And I thought that alone
would help. He could care less, So I've never I've
never spoken to him.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
If you're baking and you need to borrow a cup
of sugar.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well, I was telling Nate that when I first moved in,
I was on OPRA three times and I fed Exter
and I said, Hi, you may not remember me, and
I sent pictures of when I was on the show
with her, and I said, I'm now across the street.
If you'd like a cup of sugar or some milk,
I'm here. Of course, she's not responding. I will. Did
I tell you the story when she never got back
to it. She never got back to me. Did I
tell you the time when Oprah was walking your dog?
Did I tell the story?
Speaker 7 (26:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Okay, So I see her and she's in exercising and
she waves all the time and I wave back, and
I thought, you know what, I've never got a chance
to talk to her. So she was walking the dog
and I got out of my car and I ran
upstairs to get my dog. And I stood at the
end of my driveway because I knew she has to
walk by my house, and you have a dog. I
have a dog, So it's a conversation right there, right away.
(26:38):
And I figured, well, she'll walk by me and I'll
say hi, Oprah. Remember when I did your show. So
I'm waiting. I'm waiting and waiting. I don't say finally
she's coming. Now, when Oprah walks, there's a security person,
then there's Oprah. Then there's a person behind who walks
the dog, and then there's another security person. Okay, So
she's coming up the street, and I guess the security
people saw me, so instead of going by my driving,
(26:59):
they may right turn. Okay, So now I know the
neighborhood great because I walks every day. So now I
don't want to look like a jackass. So I started
walking really fast okay, And the guys are looking behind
and and I get to a point and they go
up this one road which I know doesn't go anywhere.
There's two houses there and then there's a gate. You
have her trapped, yes, So I figured I'm not going
to go up there. That'll look stupid. I'll wait till
(27:21):
she comes back down the driveway and I'll say hi, Oprah.
So she goes down the street and they're looking. They
see me there, and this gate that I've never seen
open all of a sudden opened and Oprah walked in
eskatee case. Yeah, apparently that's part of her property as well.
When there's creeps like you and her dogs, she doesn't
want to talk to guys like me. Apparently we've been talking.
(27:44):
Oprah is the bad neighbor does a lot for a community.
I must say, she's always there. She has a bookstore
now and near. She calls her house the Promised Land.
Yeah she does. That's okay.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
By the way, we're gonna talk all about Double There
in fortyth anniverse. We had to get tickets in one second.
Let's talk to Lendsay High Lendsay, is there something I want
to say?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Tomorrow? Summers and good morning?
Speaker 6 (28:03):
I just want to say thank you so much for
being such a massive.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Part of my childhood.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
I grew up in the nineties and the one thing
that my brother and I used to look forward to
every single day was going home and watching Double There
and What.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Would You Do?
Speaker 6 (28:17):
You are very kind, such a massive part.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
A lot of people love What Would You Do even
more than Double Deer and uh I listen, I'm glad
anybody watched, but I love here. How old are you?
Speaker 6 (28:27):
I'm thirty six, thirty.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Six, so you're on the young end. Of the folks
who grew up watching me. That means so much to
me that you say that and you still have those memories,
and it means a lot to me, trust me. There
you go.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
It was the best I wanted to go on that
pie coaster.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Every single That's so cool. I love that.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, thank you very much, Thanks so much for calling
verson listening. Let's talk about it. Double Dare of forty
tent Versary Reunion. If you're listening to us on Q
one or two in Philly, or if you're anywhere near
driving distance, it's happening October fourth. It's City Winery in Philadelphia. Now,
how do we get in to see that? We have
ten tickets left? So get online. Oh my god, that's it.
There's already there's a probably you're not here to sell
(29:07):
a ticket. I know we're here talking about pay per
view and uh yeah, so that's it. You go to
March Summer's Live dot com and there'll be information coming
up about the pay per view event, which we'll launch
on a Halloween night. It's really inexpensive and we're only
charging twenty five bucks because I think everybody should be
able to do it. It's got to take care of
our costs and all that kind of stuff. Nobody's making
any money off this deal, which it's the way it
(29:28):
should be. You know, I no, not at all. I
don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Really have no money anymore?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Right? That is a polybus right down, Mark Summers. How
many homes do you have now? I don't know. I
want to know why you don't have any money?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
So you have a place in Florida? Now, then you
have a place in what New Mexico? Now you've got
a place here out of money? Where's the Where's where
in Jersey? Toot? Why do you have a place in Jersey? If?
Good God, I had no idea. This is not an
interview with me, it's you. Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Okay, you're there in Seacrest World. Now let's all go.
He's got a winery in Tuscany. It's for sale, is
it really? Let's all go to Mark Summer's Mark Summers
live dot com.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
See. I'm listening to what you're saying. What I never
heard Elvis want to go to break so fast? I
hate going to break, but right now, God please, but
because breakings never been invited to any of these places. Wow,
I come here. I always stay in touch with him.
I drive the poor man nuts. I apologize for that.
You do not. I don't give yourself that much credit.
(30:34):
You do not drive me nuts. That's what we do.
But you know some but every time I'm here, he goes, oh,
I'm not gonna be here. I've got I'm going here.
I'm going there. So I've never been to one of his,
this palatial estate. Somebody I can get there to the compound,
shoes off. When I come in, there's all compound and.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Shoes are welcome. Okay, Mark Summers Live. If you want
to be a part of the any of these a
little bit. It's high blood pressure for guys like me,
come on the show. Thanks anyway, Mark summers Live dot com. Yes, sir,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
And I know I'm standing on show. I'm telling you
I'll stand absolutely. Can you come on? Just reading reading
the things people have to say on text.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Just it's really I'm telling you you really should look
into this book thing and reading it yourself on audible
or something.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
They're saying that the ten tickets are gone. It sold up.
Sorry about that. A good thing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We knew we could sell ten tickets. All right, Mark Summers,
thank you for thank you all.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You're the best.
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