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June 11, 2026 20 mins

Niall Horan’s fourth studio album, 'Dinner Party,' is out now!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Ring the cowbells.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I wasn't expected not It's usually quite rowdy in here,
but not that Rody.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
You make us rowdy. You make us rowdy and randy.
So Nile Horn is here. We have many things to
talk about. We've got to talk about, of course, dinner party,
the album. We've got to talk about. Oh we need
a Spain redo. Oh yeah, get into that. You always
spain Gate, You you always a trip to Spain. I

(00:31):
want to talk about World Cup and how you're feeling
about the world and the Cup. But I want to
but I want to talk about the Okay, I really
want to focus on the album and I want to
focus on you on the road. Yep. Plus, we have
two huge super fans. They're very nervous, but we've granted
them each one question okay with no follow up allowed

(00:52):
a right. Okay, you're going to see them live. They
are shaking like vibrators. Awesome. You know what you've been
even on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Honestly, it's gotten worse in here.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
I've been coming in here for fifteen years. Have we
offended you in the past? No?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, I'm just saying it's gone downhill.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
The mission accomplished. Nile you were everywhere these days. I
mean you definitely. I mean, your last album came out
in three and then you're on the road in twenty four, Yeah,
on tour. Then it seems like you really didn't take
a lot of time off and here you are again. Yeah,
but I love that you're just saturating the planet with

(01:38):
your nileisms. Right, Okay, you're niling all over the planet.
Let's start with the album. Let's start with Dinner Party.
And I'm sure you've told the story of a thousand
times in case someone hasn't heard it. Why would you
name your album dinner Party? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So I wrote a song called dinner Party about the
first time that I met my gurfriend, which was at
dinner party. And then when it's pretty straightforward lyrically, so
it's just kind of say what you see and I'll
pick up the guitar and sing what happened. So then
afterwards I was like, right, what, What's how do I
make the rest of this album? And when I'd written
that song, I knew that that's what I was going
to do. I was going to attack that dinner party

(02:14):
from all different angles and kind of write songs about
the nuances of a relationship, but it had to come
from the dinner party is the nucleus and then everything
came from that.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
So what did I say if you met at a
car dealership? Would you have named a car dealership? And
how would the album have turned out different?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yes, I would have because I would have a driveway
full of cars free ones hopefully works. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
See, a lot of artists will write about relationships that
did not do well, or they'll write about past relationships
that were great but they just didn't work. You're writing
about a current relationship. Is that Is that causing any
friction at all in the current relationship? It's great? Actually,
why do you say that?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Unless she She hasn't said anything, so it must be
going well. No, I know, it's just I write about
what's what's happening, and you know, people say, is it
more difficult or not? I think it's you pick up
an instrument, you start singing, and whatever comes out happens,
and she's she seems to be okay with it. I
think she now understands that, like, that's what that's what

(03:16):
I do, Like, I write stuff about what's going on
in my life.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
And she remembered that she should fly straight man, don't
mess don't mess with Nile, He'll write a song about it. Well,
so let's talk about the nuances of a dinner party.
I mean, it's kind of fun that you can it's
a universe, it's an ecosystem, it's it's it's people. There
are friends and people who are new friends all together
around a table. There's cocktails going on, there's a little
bit of food eating, there's conversation, and so there's a

(03:43):
choreography to a dinner party. I guess.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, yeah, well that's and then obviously that idea grows
in your head once you've written a song about that,
Like you think about all the different types of dinner
parties you've been to, You think about the conversations that
are had at them. Some of them are political, some
of them are You talk about absolutely anything on the
spectrum at all, and that allows you to open your

(04:06):
mind up as a writer and then think about like
different conversations you've had that attached to your things in
your life, and you're able to write off the back
of that.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So that's yeah, there is a bit of a very
creative I mean, you got really stone and came up
with it. Yeah, well, I love the fact you took
our listeners out to a dinner party here in New
York City. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
The other day we went to Coo Kodak, which is
like a very nice fried chicken restaurant.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, it's the boogiest place you'll ever get fried chicken.
But and we had like fifty or sixty fans in there.
But I've been kind of doing this, and it's funny
that I went to the gym yesterday morning. I had
a protein shake, you know, around lunchtime, had a light salad,
not realizing that actually Cookodak was a proper fried chicken restaurant, and.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I ate for about ninety people in there.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
It is good, right, So I basically everything I did
in the gym and a fifteenth and steps I got
in before I started work, just went straight out.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
But that's why you go to the gym, so you
can have the chicken.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, well, I ate too much chicken. The calories out
did each other. I like getting out and going to
the pub, going for dinner and going to see people,
like doing all of those things. So I've been waiting
in the wings for everyone to come and enjoin.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
You love going out to the pub. But you build
a pub at the house. Yeah that's a bad idea.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Well so you think so it sounds great on paper,
and then you.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Got one did the same thing I was. That's where
I got my idea from.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I was asking him all ideas about where he got
his bar and blah blah blah, and he was telling
me all how to do it and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
But it's every single day and night in your pub.
Yeah no, yeah, at the start, I did, and I learned.
I learned hard. Getting older is a bitch. Oh look what,
I'm more than twice your age, probably three times four
times your age, four times you know. You know, recovering
from a heavy night at the pub the next day

(05:59):
is not easier for me. No, it's but you're saying
it's the same for you. You actually give yourself a break.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
The last I think the last four years, i'd say,
is where when it kicked in the hangovers, that not
turning thirty thing is a real, real thing. I thought
it was a big myth and everyone was lying, it's
just you wait till you turn thirty. Oh yeah, that's it.
That's a definite. I'm like two three days before I feel.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Okay, damn wow. Wow, that's a tough one. So Nile's here.
We're celebrating the album, of course, and the song tastes
so good. I'm gonna play that in a few minutes.
And we actually played another cut this morning, as requested
by Abigail, who you will meet in a moment. Okay,
we have two very nervous people here ready to ask
you a questions. Right, we played a Little More Time,
that's her favorite album cut off the album.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I love that song. I love that song so much.
I kind of I wanted to when I was releasing
singles and stuff. I wanted to obviously set it all
up with dinner Party, and then I wanted to put
my favorite song out, which is a little More Time
and then Taste so Good around the album. We obviously
put the end of an era too, just for to
have its own at the moment in the album.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
And yeah, it tastes so good.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Is the kind of the one that starts the album,
the one that feels the biggest, the livest, the most rocky,
that that gets people going.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Nile's here, what do you want to say? Oh my god,
I have so many questions.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Word begin so I saw on your Instagram that you
mentioned with end of an era that you guys have
been working on it for years and years and no
version really ever felt right about it to you. But
now you found something that feels right. What is it
that feels right about this? And does it actually feel
like you're putting an end to that era?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, it's a funny one.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I'd written that song ages ago and it just it'd
never really like the lyric just never felt right. It
just there's always an arc to a song, and we
could never get the arc right. And then sadly we
we lost Lim and then that song was pulled back
out of the drop box written again and was written
in about five minutes.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's it's crazy thats something like.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
That would have to happen to to get your emotions out.
And to be honest, I didn't even after we lost Lame.
I didn't write and write anything about him or it
subconsciously for until then, like for months, like I didn't
even it was. I was like I was trying to
keep it away from you know, trying to hide it somewhere.
But yeah, I know, and then it just the time

(08:14):
came and it was written in five minutes because, as
I said at the start, you say what you see,
and that's what I was thinking at the time, and
it took five minutes to right. It's just crazy that
it takes something like that, as I said, to for
a song to be written, and it takes a song
like that to be written. It makes you look at
the present. It opens the door for tomorrow, right correct?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yea? So here therefore here you are exactly love it.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Can I ask you a beauty question?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Really? You want to ask you? Because I was.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Watching you online and you were giving like your must
have items that you always have, and it was all
like beauty product for men. And we always talk about
what's good for girls to use, but you never really
hear like, what's your go to for guys? So what's
your like go do products to look that good?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Because smashing, Oh no, there's a couple of crows feet
going on here in makeup this morning.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
It's the reason why you look great because you notice
things like that. Look at me when I leave the
house I come into work every day, Daniel looks at
me and says, don't you have a mirror at home?
So what's your favorite your number one thing you go
to ice water in the morning, this big one.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Okay, ice water, smash your face into us, smash your face.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Into face wash. Obviously, a serum of some suncream s
p Yeah. I'm only new to that actually, because I
got like one of those scans where they like they
show you the damage.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
The pre cancerous stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, that's scary. So I got in sun cream, serum, moisturizer.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
What about hair stuff? You have a certain hair product because.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I use I suppose for years and years of just
blow draying my hair into this position.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It just kind of goes.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
You trained your hair like one of those Instagram things
and just put all the pictures of me in this
room over the years in this sea. It would change
color once, but it was pretty much like this for
last year.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
We called it consistence. Yes, yes, yes, that's good. Now
what what about where it is now and where it's going?
Like peptides? Oh no, dude, don't know. No peptides, No
try and just facials. I do facials. Yeah, okay, very good.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, do facial but no peptites and now no, not yet,
not yet, no get into them.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
No. Oh yeah, it's n a d plus. You got
to get it and oh no, we're going to shoot
you up like a drop head phone. You don't even
you don't even need headphone. I was reading on my
notes here. Uh, your North America tour hits Spring twenty seven. Yes,
oh next year, Oh thank god, We've got a year.

(10:43):
So we're talking about a twenty six state arena run
including United Center Chicago, Barkley Center here in Brooklyn, the Garden,
the TD Garden brother in Boston. But also you're doing
stadium dates with our friend Thomas Rhett.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yes, Hey, I can't waitch, I can't wait for it.
And this July we're doing two shows. We're doing I
want to pronounce this right Giodis Park and it's like
the soccer stadium in Nashville, right in Hershey and Hershey, Pennsylvania,
which I've played in twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Smells like chocolate down it does it? Does? It? Reeks? Yeah?
It reeks.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
But we're doing we're doing a co headline two shows,
two weekends in Nashville and Pennsylvania in July, July ninth
and eighteenth, I believe, or something like that, which is
got very good.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Like I've known Thomas for years and well How did
you meet Thomas? How did you guys get connected?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
His manager of Virginia is married to my longtime friend
and producer collaborator, Julian Bennetta. I just known Thomas through
that relationship for the best guy ever, right and he's
the best. If t Red was here right now, I
would say the same about you. You're just You've always
been our favorite.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
That's fair. Note that we're comparing you to anyone else
in particular, favorite of everyone on earth? Your favorite, But
you know your music in t Reight's music, is there
a similarity? Is there a commonality there?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, the death there is. There's a crossover there. I
think it's because of like my love for country music.
I think with like our traditional Irish music and country
music music, there's definitely like some sort of blend there.
And I think what naturally comes to me is kind
of that country seventies the seventies, like American rock and
roll stuff that I grew up on is kind of
like with the Eagles and things like that definitely bleeds

(12:19):
into the country world.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's so crazy. I mean, you're thirty what three, and
you know what the Eagles is what I grew up with.
That's where I grew up. Like, who do you know
about the eagles?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
There's nothing more by the way, someone goes, how would
you know that you weren't even born?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
Songs?

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Because because I listened to them when I grew up. Okay,
so we have some big fans of yours here in
the room. And it's you thought he was looking at
the phone line. Deanna has been a huge fan of
yours from way back when and do you meet Abigail

(12:58):
in the second Deanna? This is not horror I know?

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (13:02):
By the way, in twenty thirteen, I was there. Yeah,
it was very hot. It was so hot. Which really
pronounced the smell of chocolate. Yeah, it's the smell of
melting chocolate. Yes, so you have we told Deanna one question,
one question only, no follow up aloud. Okay, dream guest
at your dinner party. Dream guests at the dinner party. Yeah,
how many she wants? One hundred? Let's do four? Is

(13:25):
that too many? Four including me or not?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
No, you guess so it's your table five. Yes, that's
a good question. Holy Molly Braack and Michelle Obama. Okay,
I like that. That would be She's very fun. He's
good for a story. I can imagine like that would
be fun. Okay, who else? You two more? I got
two more? I need someone funny. Who we have? Are you?

(13:52):
Are you waiting for me to say your name? No? No,
I don't find me funny. I'm the best guest ever. Well,
I bring Lewis Capaldi, but he'd probably already be there.
We adore him. I've watched a couple of him. So

(14:16):
this is what a table one dud. One't like boring person.
Maybe that one could be Elvis. Shut up, I'm not boring,
Get out of here. Boring more. Maybe it's someone from history.
Maybe it's someone who's dead. Make it weird, Queen Elizabeth

(14:40):
we go Sinatra. That's good. Yeah, that was great, good answer.
Thank you all right, now that took me a while.
Sorry now Abigail is a huge fan and she's trembling. No,
I took my bit of blocker room deade.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Okay, Abigail was who insisted we play this place has
gone to the dogs.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
On a little more, little more time that you did play.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
That was me.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yes, I love it, Thank you so much. You have
one question for Nile.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
My question is if you had to choose one song
from your discography to represent you as a songwriter. Which
one would you choose and why it's way too deep?
Something about like guests at the party making fun for
that's how you do it, Okay, Nile. In the world
of songwriting, I would say this Town.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
There's a I think obviously it's the first one, so
it's obviously the most natural place for me to go.
Is that kind of fingerpicked, folky thing. I would say
a lot of those types like Flicker Flicker for my
first album, This Town, and there's one on the new
album called better Man, and I think they're probably the
you said one, but but that that style of song

(15:53):
is probably where I would I would, I would, I
don't know. I think it's because it's the most the
most natural, Like the first thing I do when I
pick couple of guitars, I play something like that, and
I think it's based on kind of like what I
grew up on, Like when I was when I was
growing up, I remember hearing Damian Rice for the first
time and playing and then when I started playing the guitar,
I would just try and emulate that, and so now

(16:13):
years later when I pick up I just play those
kind of fingerpicked, folky country kind of guitar rhythms, and
I think years of listening to that kind of singer
songwriter stuff, it kind of comes the most naturally to me.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
You got three there, you go, a great job. One
more minute, I got kick you out of here. I've
got stuff to do. Wow, But like a rapid fire
thing question, what do you have?

Speaker 4 (16:36):
Okay, you wrote Dinner Party with your girlfriend and mine.
Did she get a preview of the songs?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
And did she like them? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, I know she she I write a
lot of songs, so there's a lot of kind of
like silences sometimes like like she's very good at like
I prefer the one you wrote last week, you know
that one with the she give me that. I think
it's more interesting for her to hear how a song
starts and finished, like where it ends up and then

(17:06):
she there has there's been like some tears. There's been
some tiers. A good tears, tears, not bad tears.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I hope not. Maybe she's not telling me.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, and she she's kind of she's she's honest with it,
but not like she knows. She just knows that that's
what I do. And like and I just write what
I'm thinking. So she's she's okay with it.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
So and you're get in a fight, write your little songs,
keep them yourself.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, exactly, send them to her six months later that night,
then you'll go World Cup.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
For one second. I know Ireland's not in it, but
Scotland is. And my favorite player, John McGinn is it
a love Villa fan.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
So yeah, congratulations your big win.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yes, thank you, And so you know that the theme
song right for Scotland is we may not win.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
But we got John again. I mean everyone loves John
Again is a legend.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I excited even though Ireland's not it.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, I'm going with because we were in it for
a long time and then we lost in the last
couple of minutes of a qualifying match, which is very sad.
And like the Irish and the Scottish, we go to
things in numbers. Even if there's no tickets for us,
we will.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
We usually go.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
So don't don't be shocked if you still see loads
of Irish just walking.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Around New York. It's fine. But yeah, no, I love
the Scottish team.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
They've got some great players and I think they might
do better than people think. I mean, there's so many
good teams in it now it's actually hard to even
put your finger on. I mean, I like, we watched
the Premier League all the time, so watching it, watching
this some of the English lads. But I don't really
want the English to win it because we have I
live in London and I have to listen to them forever.
Oh I'm sure the last one in nineteen sixty six

(18:44):
and they're still talking about it now. So if they
could just get very far in the tournament.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Do you have a Premier League team though, that you
will root for if.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
You do root for one, Well, I had a knee
operation ten or eleven years ago and I did my
rehabit Chelsea, so I a Chelsea's training center, which is
pretty cool. So Chelsea our Brentford is a team that
I go to quite a bit. So yeah, but I
am just excited. I love the World Cup. It's just
it's a shame that's every four years, but it is.
It's just so exciting. Like the I mean, I've seen

(19:14):
there's a bit of scandal with ticket prices and stuff like.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
That, but have you seen what you're charging for your show? Hello?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, I'll tell you why it's nowhere near not that's
a fact. But no, I think it's just gonna be
a great World Cup. But there's so many good teams,
it's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Nile, thank you for coming in to that. Good to
see it. Three years, you have to see you see
me in three years. You always a trip to Spain.
Spain game, Spain game. We'll do that next time, okay.
Also on the list of things to do, I want
I want to be invited to a dinner party. Yeah.
I want to drive the cart while you play golf
one day. Okay, it's all about me. Really, you just

(19:53):
want to go drinking and I'll actually have a cocktail
dinner party. Of course. I gotta play Taste so good.
I gotta play it right now. Play Nile Horn, you're
the best. Where's the bell? Where's Betle?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Where's the bell bringing or cow bell ring him?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Or cow bell

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