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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We took a
little vacation from the news over the past couple of weeks,
and man a lot has happened. We're gonna go over
some of the top stories, including the shocking or not
shocking news that defense attorney Alan Jackson quit, the Nick
Rayner case, the viral video of the malfunction at the
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Indiana Jones stunt show in Disney, and what seems to
be an increase in incidents at Disney within the past
couple of months. I don't know what you guys will think.
Then we'll discuss the dentist and the wife who has
found shot to death in their home, the new season
of My Strange Addiction and the medical reason behind why
some of these people are eating all of this weird stuff,
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and a viral TikTok video telling people to scoop out
their period to avoid the messiness that comes with it
once a month. All that and more, plus will follow
up with your questions, comments and emails. All right, alan Ja,
I feel like there's even more. I just there's so
much stuff that's happened. I really wanted to talk about
(01:23):
stranger things, but I don't want to bore people who
are not interested, because that's like a whole other thing.
Maybe we'll talk about at the end of the episode,
but let's let's get started first with this. Alan Jackson.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was gonna say, well, well, well look who's finally
back from vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was. It was a nice vacation. We were off.
This was the longest trip we ever took, which was
a solid two weeks. We left on Christmas night, so
Christmas Day, but at night, and we flew to San Francisco,
and then we drove down the Pacific Coast Highway as
far as we could before we hit the mud slide area.
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And then we went to Anaheim to Disney, and then
we kind of went across Route ten along the southern
border to New Orleans and then went home. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, you're lucky you came back when you did, because
Cheryl's trying to kick you out of your job and
trying to say good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
She's like, she's so perfect that she that she filled in.
That was awesome. No, she was great.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, But let's talk about this Nick Reinder case we
have a lot to get to. So we reported before
holiday break that famed attorney Alan Jackson was going to
be representing Nick Reiner, and now he has quit the
case and said he has no choice. I think this
is you know, I don't know. I thought it was
weird that he took the case on to begin with,
and I'm not super surprised that he.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We talked about that with Jarret right, Yes, okay, so
we did think it. We did think it was weird.
Why would he be able to get this big, fancy
attorney when he just killed his parents Because the only
reason that he has money is because of his parents,
So we thought it would be weird that his dead
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parents are paying for the attorney of the person who
murdered them, right, I mean, that's essentially what's happening. So
now I just think some of the terminology is a
little bit weird. Like obviously, so Alan Jackson just to
remind you guys of his fanciness as a lawyer defense attorney,
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as he just represented Karen Reid, right, and she and
won that case. So now he's going to be well
sawt after as being able to win these higher profile cases.
So he just said that it was due to circumstances
beyond our control and more importantly, beyond Nick's control.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, and then found that with I'm legally and ethically
prohibited from explaining all the reasons why, but they're still
insisting that he's not guilty. I yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why he took this on. And by
the way, this Karen Reid Lifetime movies coming out this weekend.
I have to watch it. It's gonna be so terrible.
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I cannot wait to see how they.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I feel like I feel like we should we have
to have like a watch party and talk about it.
There's like, there's there's lots of stuff too that we
need to watch. There's just a lot. The whole entire
time I was on the trip, I opened up a
page in notes and just started writing all this stuff
down that I want to talk about just from my
trip to But yeah, like I feel like we should
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all watch Maybe we could do something like that, because
did we ever do an episode that was just talking
about the Karen Reid case. I feel like we did.
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We did a full episode breaking down the Karen Reid case.
I feel like it was when you had your face surgery.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, I don't remember. It was that like June. So
I feel like I feel like maybe we should re
upload it and then at the end if we could,
at the end of it, the reap of the move,
do a recap of the exactly, like something like that,
talking about it, just because once that comes out, it's
gonna be frsh in a lot of people's minds and
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they might they they might want to hear about the case,
like the actual forensics of the case.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well that's a great idea, So either look out for
that next week because we're gonna have to watch this
and then we have to talk about it because you know,
Lifetime just they're just all over the place and how
they represent these cases.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But yeah, I agree with you, Like, he definitely was
a high profile attorney when he took this Karen Reid
case on, and he's definitely gonna be sought out because
of how complicated that one was, and this case definitely
is gonna be very complicated. Because TMC was reporting that
Nick Rener was diagnosed with schizo effective disorder back in
twenty twenty. He had seemingly two loved ones been stable
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on medication until about a month before the murders, and
then all of a sudden, the doctor switched his medication
and that's when he started in spiraling. So I'm really
interested me as though.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like I know that this is the narrative that they're
telling us, but this is like if you have a
regular person that's diagnosed with some kind of schizophrenia and
then is on medication, but this guy was admittingly doing
myth okay, so like it's not just like, oh, this
this asshole psychiatrist changes medication and he went nuts, like
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which I'm assuming is why they're saying he's not guilty,
because they're going to try to use that or like
I said before, they're going to try to make some
really terrible allegations against the parents and it's going to
be like a Menendez situation, which I think we've talked
about with Jared as well, So like how why else
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would he say the guy's not guilty, Well he's not.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, I now that he's going with a public defender.
I think exactly they're going to take one of those
two approaches. And also I feel like Alan Jackson may
have just simply dropped out over money, right, because this
whole time we're like, where is he getting this money
to pay?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's super these the circumstances beyond his control. He doesn't
have control of his bank account. That's that is the
huge thing. Don't these lawyers of.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This caliber charge like eight thousand dollars an hour or
something outrageous?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like where is this kid getting money?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And if he has a trust fund that has been
being dealt out in installments, I doubt whoever is the
executor of that account is gonna be giving him money
for this And you don't even know he might not
have that much in it. You just really don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I did read at some point that he had this
ten thousand dollars a month allowance, which is outrageous.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It's outrageous, but it's not it's that's one and a
half hours of Alan Jackson's work, not even so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, maybe he had some money saved up and was
it because don't you have to pay a retainer fee?
Or maybe maybe the guy was just like you know
what this is, like, I'm gonna waive the fee for
right now because this is like a huge I am
curious because you would think just the terminology of it
and everything. It's just interesting and I feel like there's
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a little bit more to the story and I am
curious how this is going to unfold. But unfortunately this
is prolonging things even more for us to learn about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So yeah, because his arraignments now have been pushed to
the end of February, so we're not even going to
know what his plea is yet until then because the
public defender needs some time to work with him. But
I don't think it's looking very good for him, and
I agree with you one hundred percent. They're going to
try to come out with some either blame against the
doctor or against the parents or something to try to
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get him off with this.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If they're going to try to go for insanity, But
isn't that nearly impossible to prove.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't know that it's impossible to prove. I just
think that it's already kind of been proven that it's
not correct because he did there is evidence of him
going to a convenience store afterwards and buying a drink
and paying for the drink, all things that like, if
the guy was completely out of his mind, you would
think that he went to the store and just grabbed
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it and started drinking it right there and walked out,
like you know that it's not right to steal stuff, right,
so you know he knew what was going on. He
was able to pull out a credit card and make
a payment and that whole thing. But like he has
this history of being on psychomed, so obviously that's going
to come into play. We were talking about that a
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lot with like that woman named Lindsay Clancy. We vote
about her in the gross room too, But she was
a little bit more of a different situation because she
was seemed to be having postpartum depression and was on
all of these different medications within a short period of
time and ended up killing her three children. But she
wasn't also I mean, as far as we know right now,
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she wasn't also on illegal psychoactive drugs, which also, you know,
could change the chemical makeup of how the psych medications
are working. Right, So that'll all come out, it'll all
come out. I just I just really really hope that
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it doesn't go down a path of accusing people of something.
Unless they did do that, then of course you could say,
of course, but all right, let's get let's get on
to Disney So the day so I went to Disney
I always I've said this on the show before that Disneyland,
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my Disneyland experiences at least are far superior than Disney World.
I've only been there twice, but both times have been amazing.
The weather's been nice. I wore I wore a sweatshirt,
that's it all day. It wasn't cold, it wasn't hot,
it didn't rain. It was perfect, it was comfortable. There
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weren't kids complaining they were hot and needed a drink
of water every five seconds. It was it was just
night right. The whole experience was nice. But so I
went on December thirtieth, which was the day before New
Year's Eve, and I feel like, I don't know if
people just didn't want to go because they wanted to
go on New Year's Eve, but it just was kind
of dead. The ride, everything was just good, but on
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that day, and I didn't even know about this until
after I had left the park, But at the Indiana
Jones ride, there was a fight in line between someone
cutting in line and this guy like sucker punched another
guy in the face to the point where he got
a laceration and needed sutures. So he punched him pretty
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hard and the guy like fled the park and left.
So they don't even know who it is. And they're like,
if you have any information, they know they are like
queens of biometric Well I was thinking that too, because
you know, when when we checked in with our tickets,
it was like they took a picture of our face.
They know who it is exactly, but they might and
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they should know because when you buy the tickets, it's
connected to your name and stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Not only that, but like remember the one time we
were there and then we were all on our apps
and all of a sudden it was like, here's the
picture from the ride you just went on it of
you and I'm like, well, how did you know what tried?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was just on?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
How did you know which Kara was on? How is
my face in this app right now? I didn't scan
anything to come in here.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I didn't do the best stupid the magic bands. No, Like,
this trip was just we just went. It was quick.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We didn't have the bands, we didn't scan anything, and
all of a sudden, all these pictures of us are showing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Up in the app.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But it wasn't just us collectively. It was like my
face was in my app, your face was in your app.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I don't it. That didn't happen this time. So
I don't know if it's a difference between Disney We're
Old or Disneyland, but anyway, so, so this fight happened,
and which I'm just like, man, I wish I would
I wish I would witness that. I don't ever see
any drama at Disney. And Lily and love it because
she's like an ambulance chaser. She's just like, like I
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told her today, she's so nosy. We were driving to
school today and there was a paramedic outside of someone's
house and she's like, Oh my god, I wonder what's
going on over there. She's such like a rubbernecker, you know.
And I'm just like, dude, maybe you should be a reporter.
You seem like you're kind of like a news junkie,
you know. And so so yeah, so so that happened,
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and then other stuff has been happening too. Another person
apparently killed themselves there this week, and someone choked to
death on food and there's a lawsuit you see did
you see that?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, which I don't I guess the angle they're coming
out with this lawsuit is that the restaurant was delayed
in calling emergency services. And I think that would be
valid in like the nineties when nobody had cell phones.
But everybody has cell phones, So why couldn't somebody at
the table call and listen? Like I'm not saying I
just think that's what they're gonna say in court. Like
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I think when somebody's having a medical emergency, you're distracted
and you asked somebody else to do it, that you're
not trying to do it. But I think they're gonna
come at you like, well, why didn't you call and
expected the restaurant to call, because that's where they're going
after them for it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah. I guess this guy was He was around my age, right,
and just was eating some kind of steak and started choking,
and I guess a bunch of people tried to give
him the Heimlich and it didn't help, and which sucks
and is scary. You ever see that little contraption I've
seen advertisements for that's like a I think it's called
(14:37):
like Life Back or something. Yeah, it like sucks it
like sucks it out. I mean honestly, I don't, and
I don't know, like I like if if those people
want to send me one and I'll do a promotion
for them. I haven't looked up like how good it
is or or anything. But if that thing works, you
would think that most people who own restaurants would just
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want to have something like that there, just because you
don't ever want anybody choking on food and dying at
your restaurant. Like, if that thing works and you but
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You don't, but you also, as a restaurant, I don't
think have any liability if somebody were to choke unless
there was like a foreign object in the food that
was not supposed to be there. But that's kind of
just a freak accident, right, So I don't really know
legally how that works with a restaurant, but yeah, I
would be surprised if if that went through and they
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settled with them or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So I'm curious about the investigation with that too. I
just it's funny because I just wrote about this in
the Grosser Room a few weeks ago, but I made
this post called Chicken and Cocktail Choke, And the reason
that I wrote this post was because I found this study.
It was a very small study that they did on
nine different people who choked to death on their food, right,
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and it was just the findings were really interesting. Out
of the nine people, five of them were drinking alcohol
and eating meat. It was just like this weird com
I mean, for this small sample size, it's just like
a combination of something about drinking alcohol and how it
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affects the swallowing reflexes and also not really breaking down
like let's say if you put if you put a
piece of bread in your mouth, like it breaks down
into a thin paste if you you know, if you're
not putting a huge piece, and it breaks down easier
than meat does. So the bollss of meat that that
you chew, it's you're only really breaking it down, not
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that much that the more of that breakdown process comes
after you know, it's in your stomach and you have
your the acids in your stomach are further breaking down
the meat. So it creates like a bulliss or like
a ball of food that gets stuck. And so I
just I'm wondering what the investigation, like, was he drinking
a lot of alcohol because we know that people in
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Disney drink alcohol, especially because like if you're staying there
and you don't have to drive and stuff, like what
factors cause that because usually people that are healthy, they
don't they don't just choke like that unless they have
a neurological condition or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't know, because I would say if you're gonna
study anybody that's eating dinner in particular, that it's extremely
common that people have a drink with dinner. So I
feel like that's just gonna come up often.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think it's a drink though, it's like a drunk,
you know what I mean. There's just a difference between
like having a glass of wine and eating steak as
opposed to like you're drunk, You're you're drunk and you're
eating so.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean normal, like I choke, Like I've had a
couple like oh my god, I'm alone and I'm choking moments,
but I'm able to get it out right. But like,
I don't know, I think, yeah, I could see it's
like some people maybe aren't paying attention to the sizes
they're taking in or something because maybe they are influenced.
But I do think it just could happen to anybody.
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It's not like it's only going to target a certain
demographic of people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how that's gonna go down,
And I don't know what their responsibility is for that.
It's it's interesting, but people, I mean people, people die
that way, and I don't know that it's really the
responsibility of the rest you know, I don't. I really
don't know. But I mean, you worked in a restaurant,
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you should you should know more.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think unless,
like you know, there's obviously incidents sometimes where pieces of
gloves or like weird things get in the food or
whatever sometimes. So I think if the foreign body that
wasn't supposed to be in the food causes the person
to choke to death, then I feel like the restaurant
is liable because that object wasn't supposed to be in
the food. But I think if it's just like they're
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just choking on a piece of steak, I mean, like
that could be down to the size the person cut
it themselves, or many factors like you're saying. So, like,
I can't see how the restaurant would be liable for that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
In that case.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But I guess the big headline coming out of Disney
this week is this incident that happened on the Indiana
Jones ride, unlike the one you were just talking about.
But for those of all, this isn't this the one
in For those of you who are unfamiliar, the one
that I went to in Disneyland is actually a ride,
and the one in Disney World is an experience.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's it's a it's a stunt show. But it's so
before Maria gets started, let me just tell you a
little bit about this ride. This ride started in thirty
six years ago, nineteen eighty nine, multiple performances a day,
oldest opening attraction at Hollywood Studios, and it's it and
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it's the only one that's that's still open from the
original all of the original things. And we could go
on a whole rant about that, about how awesome it
was in the eighties and nineties when it when it opened.
But that particular ride has seen some ride experience has
had some issues over the years, But in relation to
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how many performances they had over the years, I think
that it's low they've had. In the nineties, they had
Osha had to come out because people. A couple people
fell like serious heights twenty five feet thirty feet doing
the stunt, and there was a person that did die
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practicing to do the stunts as well. So they've had
a few issues, but nothing like this, especially that almost
involved the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So for those of you that are not familiar with
the Indiana Jones attraction at Disney World, it is this
stunt show where they come out and they try to
show you how the stunts are done in the movie basically,
So at this particular attraction, they have this giant, four
hundred pound twelve feet rubber ball that goes down this
track and then the actor playing Indiana Jones all of
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a sudden disappears below it and they show how they
make movie magic happen. So in this case, this ball
goes off track and starts going towards the audience, which
I'm thinking, if you've never seen it before, you might
not understand that this isn't part of the show. And
this guy working on it comes off from the side
to try to stop it, and I hate to laugh,
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but he just totally gets bounced right off this thing
on the ground, and it is this horrible thing to watch.
He is a hero because if that went into the audience,
that could have caused serious issues.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And this guy is really hurt from this. Yeah, he
clearly in the video got knocked down to the ground
and seemed like he was out of it for a
minute and then got up on his feet and had
blood on his head was brought to the hospital. I
wouldn't be surprised if he had at least a concussion
from this. I'm not sure exactly what his injuries were.
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Apparently he was a former stunt actor and really knew
the implications of what would happen if that four hundred
pound ball went into the audience, especially with little children
sitting there, and jumped in to try to at least bounce.
I mean, he did a great job what he did
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and put his body in it looked like he actually
braced himself in its special kind of way to get
it to do what it did. So that guy is
really a hero, and especially Disney should be like compensating
him big time because if that hit the audience like that,
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especially like you you're there to watch, it's quite It's
an amazing show, and especially in nineteen eighty nine when
I first saw it. It was really amazing. They have
fire people jumping from high distances, falling off ladders, doing
all this really cool acrobat stuff, and when you're watching
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it happen, they try to make it seem like the
actor gets injured, so everyone's like, oh my god, is
he okay? You just got ran over by this big ball. So,
like you if and like Maria was saying, if you
never saw it before, you you might just be kind
of confused. And if it was coming towards you, it
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almost it almost looks like it's a giant beach ball. Yeah,
but it's not at all. It's four hundred pounds. Along
with the force of it moving hitting people would have
been really really bad.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh yeah, And I don't know. I just was sitting there.
I'm like watching this video on repeat. You know, we've
seen it a million times, so I know exactly what's happening.
I actually couldn't believe it hasn't happened before where it's
gone off the track, because.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It comes off so easily and it never came off
the track once, which is it's just really it's really amazing.
So my brother just went to Disney this week and
he's like, I just saw the Indiana Jones show and
they changed it. The ball's not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, when they were moving I guess when they're moving
the sets around to go to the next scene, you
can see it like tucked away. But they did not
have it come out, which they're saying is only temporary change.
But this could have been seriously really bad if it
wasn't for that guy.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, And I mean in the intro, I was like, Oh,
it just seems like there's like this increase of things happening,
and it's just I mean, everybody just has a phone.
It's just gonna happen. I tried, personally, if I'm at
something like that, it actually drives me nuts when people
do that, because I'm just like, why don't you just
sit here and watch it and like live the experience
instead of looking at it through your phone and worrying
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about if you're recording it right, Because how often do
you really go back and look at those videos, like
nobody you don't look at it. It looks like shit when
you record it yourself. Yeah, just like there's so many
people that just like aren't living in the moment and
just enjoying life in front of them, you know, But
I guess in some cases it works out well because
this person was recording the whole entire thing as it happened,
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you know. Well, it's kind of like it's like the
Boeing effect, right of what two years ago, one major
catastrophe happens there that's really unusual, So then any other
time something's happening, it's just gonna keep getting recycled, and
they're gonna keep retelling all the other stories, and it
just keeps adding fuel to the fire. Yeah, and just
like and it was another Like it does seem like
(25:34):
there's been a couple suicides this year, but like maybe
there always was and we just never knew about it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I definitely think suicides have been there in the past,
but considering how much they're publicized right now, like people
might be taking inspiration from them happening, which is why
there's an increase too. So I definitely think it's interesting
to look at. But I don't know. I feel like
this is the first Disney pure pr crisis we've seen
in a while, because they're usually really good at keeping
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these things under wraps, and they've been all over the
news in the last couple months.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
This episode is brought to you by the Growthroop. So,
as I said, there is a post showing these autopsies
of all of these different people who died, and it
is called Chicken and Cocktail Choke. And the reason I
think it just struck me as odd that yes, it
was a lot of meat, but it was in particular
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chicken that people were choking on with and being drunk.
So and you could see what those autopsies look like
and check that out. We had a video yesterday someone
sent me on Instagram that I talked about and the
question that the person on Instagram said to me was
how is this little girl still alive? So we talk
about the condition that she had. And we have another
(26:58):
post that's really interesting called It's Burning Cats and Dogs,
and we talk about a lot in the Grossroom. Everything
it has to do with the same stuff that we
talk about on this show, what has to do with death, dying,
and disease obviously, and anything that has to do with
people getting hurt. But in this particular post, we talk
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about what happens when animals die and animals get cremated
and what that looks like from someone that does it.
For a living. So it's a really interesting post. So
check that out.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
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Speaker 2 (27:36):
All right, so this case, you know, when I'm on vacation,
obviously I'm still looking at social media, and this one
was was really it's very interesting. Right, there was a
husband and wife found murdered in their home and their
children were still there unharmed.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, this case is really unusual. So the husband in
this case was a dentist and apparently, according to everybody
around them, he was extremely punctual and he didn't show
up for work one day, which was very unusual. So
I guess that coworkers end up calling him and the
wife a bunch of times, and neither of them are answering,
which is just so out of character for both of them.
(28:16):
So somebody ends up going over to the house and
not clear if they were able to get in the
house or not. I don't think they were able to
get in, but they saw a body through a window,
which they told police about, and they heard the kids crying.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So police get.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
There and they go in this house and they find
that this couple are both shot to death. But the
weird parts of this story is that no weapon was
found in the house, there's no clear signs of breaking entering.
The kids are completely unharmed, obviously, thank god. But now
it's coming out that there was a weird nine to
one one call back in April. They're not specifically saying
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it's the wife, but it seems likely it was her.
It's as an unknown female from this result.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So it wasn't the wife. The family's saying that that's
not her voice. Wow, that's what's that's what's weird, because
anybody and I thought that because just to the way
the way that the did you read the transcript of
the nine one one call? I did, and I have
I have some things I need to say about it.
It just seems like it just seems like she called
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I guess the person who called nimon one. A woman
called Nieman one and hung up, and then nimon one
was like, why did you call us? Is everything okay?
And she was kind of crying, but she said like
she said something about being in a fight with with
like it was a domestic dispute.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, she said, me and my man got in a fight.
And then they were saying, do you still need somebody
to come there? And she said, no, I'm just very emotional,
but she was crying.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The entire time. And then the nine.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
One one dispatcher marked it as a domestic dispute, but
no cops actually went there. And that's kind of like,
I don't know how these work, and I know it's
state by state with domestic incidents, but don't you think
they should have just sent somebody anyway considering a call
even came in, because what if like like because the guy,
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the guy could have like had a knife up to
her neck and been like, if you have them come here,
I'll kill you right now, Like yeah, I do, I
do think so and and uh, like if someone works
for emergency services like that nine on one and stuff,
we would love to hear what the protocol is. And
I'm sure, like you said, it's it's different state by state,
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just it just it doesn't even so so her family
has said as of this morning that they that it's
not her.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Wow, So who is it? Really?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like that's interesting plot twist because exactly it's.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
A plot twist, but it's not a plot twist because
like if he did, if they if it wasn't a
murder suicide, which they've already rolled out, then someone killed them?
Who killed them? It was it was like, the next
thing is going to be a domestic like love lover's
quarrels situation, right, Like that's that's the most common thing
to think of next, not to say that that's what
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it is, but that that's just like a little bit weird,
Like who because we have proof now that someone made
a nine to one one call from that house at
some point, and that's just.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's just like who was that? Well, I mean, there's
many scenarios. So they've released a photo of a person
of interest that looks like a man that was walking
around in an alleyway near their house in the timeframe
they thought their murders occurred. But this is kind of
bizarre because it's like who is this woman now? So, like,
is it possible it was a relative that was staying there.
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Is it possible that the has been maybe was having
an affair? Is it possible that the pinpoint of the
nine on one call came from it incorrect location? Like
what is happening?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And like just because there was no signs of a
break and I mean, some people just sit in their
house with the door unlocked, or it could have been
somebody that they knew that they let in. Yes, there's
just like a lot of different possibilities that that happened
with that. And I mean he was a dentist and
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he I mean, there could just be like a crazy
patient too that just felt wronged or you know, I
mean you've gotten bills from the dentist before. It pisses
you off, right, so started it could it could like
you know, put you down a rabbit hole for some people.
So there's any kind of possibility. It's just it to me.
(32:52):
It wasn't a robbery, right, It doesn't appear that they
took anything. They didn't harm the kids. It was very
targeted towards at least one of them, and one of
them might have gotten in the way. Like we don't
we don't know anything about the forensics of the case
as far as like what they found at the scene,
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but I do think it's interesting. Another thing, and I
don't know if you've read this either, is that one
of the neighbors has now come out and said, and
this is all like hearsay, right, one of the neighbors
has come out and said that a couple of nights ago,
there was someone like frantically banging on her door in
that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, that's like extra uncomfortable to think.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So so it just to me, it just doesn't seem
random because if like, why would you just go in
someone's house and kill a husband and wife and like
not steal any other stuff or hurt their kids, Like
what was the point? Why? What would be the randomness
of it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Then why bang on the neighbor store this this case,
I will admit, when I first a it, it just
looked like a lot of other cases that pop up
in the news. But the more details that come up
about this, it's really intriguing and I wonder what else
is gonna come out And if that yeah, if that's
if that's really the case, that the family is adamant
that that's not her on the nine one one call,
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then like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Then like whoa what's happening? Yeah? Because who is this woman?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I don't know because it's not like the the killer
seeming by the build as a man. So like I
don't know, because I was like, if the killer was
a woman, maybe it was somebody involved in another type
of dispute with somebody in the house.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But what this woman. So, this woman in the neighborhood
who said that that she had heard someone frantically banging
on her door, actually to the point where she called
nine one one about it. Wow, So they had that
it was that night or before it was. I think
it said it was a few nights before. That's so.
(35:00):
So I don't know if the police. I'm sure the
police came out for that. I don't know. Yeah, I'm
curious about this case. We'll keep you guys updated on
it if we hear anything else.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, So, after almost ten years, a new season
of My Strange Addiction has finally premiered, and I think
we could both say we're both excited about this because
that show was awesome and showed truly the weirdest things
people did. So in the original series, they were showing
a woman who slept with a hairdryer, a man who
was in love with his car, a woman who ate
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nail polish, a man who love leeches sucking on his skin,
a woman who ripped open her walls to eat the bricks.
I mean, we've talked about many of these cases throughout
many episodes of Other Nose Death, So I'm sure you've
heard it before.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
So when we're on our road trips, our go to
show that we usually watch that's usually consistently on at
night before we go to bed as Shark Tank, right,
but for whatever reason, it wasn't on when we were
in Tucson, so it was New Year's Eve too, so
I was just like, all right, what are we gonna watch?
And I go and I see my strange addiction. The
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kids have never seen it, and I show them, and
Lilian's like watching it was the episode of the guy
who has a relationship with his car, and and she
was just like, what is happening right now? And I
was just like, yeah, dude, this show's good. You have
to watch it. Because she likes the Pimple Popper show.
She's like into like, you know, she's into the drama stuff,
you know, I know. So I was like, okay, dude, yeah,
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you gotta watch this. This guy's like completely out of
his mind. And he kept calling the car his new
car lover, a luxury vehicle, and it still was like
a ten year old beat up. It might have been
Alexis at one point, but like it hasn't been for
a very long time. So anyway, in the little corner
of the Tea. I was actually posting it on my
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Instagram stories because it was just I never saw the
episode of the couple that drank pea and therapy and
each other. I don't think I saw it. I was
just like what and in the little corner it was
like new episodes coming next week, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
The nail polished one forever six in my mind because
the girl was eating it and then her mom confronts
her and goes, is this why you had a miscarriage?
And I was like so taken aback by that and
was like, oh my god, this is terrible. And then
I believe in that same episode it was followed up
by a woman addicted to pony play.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, even gonna put these things side by side.
But it's a it's a good mix. It's a good
mix all the time. And there's they're so the ones
I didn't I mean, the one of the drink, the drinking,
the urine one just bothered the shit out of me.
It's just like it's like a young couple and they're
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from Jersey. They're like Jersey Shore. They have this nice
house on the water at Jersey Shore. So they they're
like a million dollar house exactly exactly, and it's like
him and his girlfriend just got together and decided that
they were just gonna drink pea and like the family
like sitting around, you know, because they always do it
with like the family's reaction and stuff. And I'm like,
(38:04):
I'm sorry, if I saw any person drinking pea in
front of me, I think I would throw up. I
just think it's so gross and it's just so dumb,
Like it's just there's there's just absolutely no reason to
do it, as much as you want to be like, oh,
it's so healthy, you're drinking your waist. Like it's just
the dumbest shit I ever heard of my life.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
So in this two season, the trailer so far has
shown a woman who eats raw meat, and in the clip,
I guess they show full out raw hamburger meat and
working to start eating.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Which is which is Listen, the episode I just watched
from last season was a woman, same situation. She just
so happens to be getting a pedicure and she's sitting
there and pulls a roll of toilet paper out of
her person starts eating the toilet paper, and I'm just
like this lady does not do this, Like she doesn't
bring this around like a bag of chips and snacks
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on toilet pap. Wait, this is why they're on the show.
But then why is the raw meat? So this raw
meat girl she pulls out that styrofoam piece that's in
that's at the grocery store with ground beef on it, like,
out of her purse and is getting a pedicure and
starts eating the raw meat. That's it. That did not happen. No,
I agree, I don't think that happened. Well, what is
it that they're like, let's let's film you doing this
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when you're getting a petticure.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I believe because you could just sle it in your bag.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's still not happening, Like she wouldn't. Like even if
you were doing that, you would at least like pull
it out like it was like like a chip and
put it in your mouth, like you wouldn't just pull
out a roll and start munching on it. Come on,
but he's gonna do that. I just I don't all
of these people like that are doing this. And we'll
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we'll talk about this a little bit more in a minute.
But like they know that it's wrong. So it's not
like it's it's not like they're just completely out of
their mind and they're eating this stuff. It's like they're
having they're having a craving for it, but they know
that it's not right, which is why they're on this show,
which is why they're revealing it to people. So like,
you're not just gonna pull out a roll of toilet paper,
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stick your finger through the roll and just be like hey,
like pulling pieces off and like eating it in front
of people, like nonchalantly, like it's not happening. I'm thinking
on YouTube live now maybe in addition to the Caddy five, which,
if you know, you know, we need to start doing
like recaps of like TV or movie or whatever recaps
(40:29):
and talking about this stuff because I actually think everybody
would like a week by week breakdown of what we
think about these weird episodes. Yeah, seriously, we need to
do like a segment on mothers death, a segment in
the gross room, just like and the cool The cool
thing that I like about the My Strange Addiction Show
is that it's not just people eating weird things. There's
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like all these other weird things going on too, like
sexual things, But my favorite one is the one the
lady that sleeps with her hair dryer, because then I'm like,
oh shit, I have a problem because I like would
do that except I use a space heater, but I
always have it like very close to my leg and
get burns and shit from it. Like I like, I'm
addicted to the feeling of artificial heat. Same with the
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electric blanket.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Over the break, I was finishing up the categories, you know,
and I was on a really old post. I think
it was like an October of twenty twenty in the
Grosser Room where you posted a picture of a guy's
back that had slept with a heating pad for twenty
four hours and like this crazy skin designing out on
his back, and I'm like, this would totally be me.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, And I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that that
guy was paralyzed. That's why he didn't feel that he
was getting burned like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
That was a submission from no, that was a submission
for the book where somebody got somebody was paralyzed and
they got burned really bad by heating pad. But yeah,
I was like, I could totally see this being me
because I've been very good about it since I've been pregnant,
but before for it, especially when I had ended Vitriosi's
flare ups, I'd sit on the eating pad twelve hours
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a day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Hot is setting possible? That could not have been good
for my body at all. Oh, I pack like I
pack an electric blanket with me on my trips. Like
I pulled it out every single night, and I just
can't sleep. It's like it I just need it. So
I understand that. But that's what I'm saying. So there's
there's addictions to like things like that. A guy who
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just like had sex with his car still does he
his and he's talking about his one car had an accident.
Did you see the update with this, dude? I didn't
see the first. He was like having a relationship with
this like red Chevy Lumina or some shit. Yeah, we
it's like a car I had when I was like
a teenager. It's like an eighty nine Chevy Lubiner or something.
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And then he brought it to the shop to get fixed.
It had a name too, I think he called it Chase.
And he has like some of his cars are female,
some of them are male, Like it's really really like
off the rails. Like so this car, he brings it
to the shop and something happened and like the jack
fell and the car like fell off the jack and
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it was destroyed, and and he talks about it as
if it's a dead lover. Like. So then he he
got different cars, and he got like I don't know
if it was a jet ski or something. I don't know,
Like he's got a cop. He's got like one that
he takes out that's like a manly man like tahoe.
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And then he's got the luxury car, which is like
an holding excess. If he has multiple lovers, I don't,
I don't know. And and then it's just it's just
like it's it's on another level. And then of course
you have the people that are eating all of the stuff.
So let's talk about that a little bit. There's a
condition called paika. We talk about it in the gross
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room all the time because there's so many cases of
people that are eating things that are considered non nutritionists
no no nutritional value, and oftentimes it very oftentimes it
has to do with a nutritional deficiency. So if especially
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in women who are have iron deficiency, anemia and stuff.
You've probably seen it on a lower scale with people
like my mother who eat ice all the time. It's
one hundred percent nutritional deficiency. When people sit there and
eat ice all day, it's pike And you could say, well,
you're supposed to be now you're not really supposed like
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it has no nutritional value. It's just it's it's been
linked for sure people who eat ice. But there's other
things that are more outrageous, Like I feel like I
have a low grade a little bit, like I would
sit there and just eat like sprinkles. Well, it's just
like gulls. It's technically a few food.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
So we're like, I'm thinking about the lady on our
six Shocking Stories episode that ate like fish fifty pieces
of silverware, that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, no, that's different. That's different. That's a whole other
different thing when you're eating like a whole entire fleet
of silverware. That's more linked with schizophrenia. And we've had
ingested in a lab for ingested foreign bodies of people
who have severe mental health, like like schizophrenia. They're just
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completely out of their mind and don't even realize that
they're eating. We had this one guy in particular, who
would eat things that looked like it was he was
trying to hurt himself, like broken pieces of glass, knife
tips he would like cut the tips off of knives
and eat them. You can have you could have it
associated with mental illness. For example, a lot of times
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when you hear about like girls that eat their own hair,
and then you could end up getting a beez or
a trichobezor, which is a ball of hair of undigested
hair in your stomach that could cause an obstruction and stuff.
So a lot of these things that people eat can
cause problems. Obstruction which means that your food can't get through,
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and it could cause a perforation, which means that a
part of your bow could burst. It could lead to death,
honestly for things like that. But some of these ones
that we're talking about, like people who eat did you
see the one of the woman I think it was
a woman or a man, I'm not sure. Who ate
their couch cushions. I did like see that there was
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one that ate clay, there was one that ate her
husband's ashes. There's all different kinds of mental things that
could be going on, but they're not schizophrenic, right, but
then the nutritional one is. Another thing that we're going
to talk about right now is this video that Jen
who works with us, sent me, and it is a
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woman who's pregnant who pulls over on the side of
the road and gets this big ass cup of dirt
and like starts chewing on it.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Well, apparently this is really common because you know, I
have this pregnancy app and like every day it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Gives you like a tip or something.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Right, so three days ago or something, the tip was
something about cravings and how if you're craving really sugary
stuff you should try to substitute it for something healthier, right,
but verbatim, it's a quote. If you find yourself wanting
to eat substances that art food, like clay ashes or
laundry starch, contact your practitioner, Like, this is crazy that
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this is like on the bottom of this little fun
fact sheet.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well, because because you crave when you crave it, it's
it's the same way. It's hard for people to think
because when you look at this woman pulling over on
the side of the road, looking at this dirt, you're
just like, to me, it just it just sounds like
eating like flour without water, like it's just it's just
(47:54):
it's dry. It looks dry and ashy, and like you
sit there and you're like, okay, how at anybody? But
usually with pregnant women especially, it's not because they're schizophrenic
or anything like that. It's just it's usually because of
a nutritional deficiency. So that's so reason number one they
want you to tell your doctor is like find out
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what the problem is. Why, because it's not normal to
crave that.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
And then number two, when you eat stuff like clay
that can't be digested or or dirt or things like that,
Like if you eat a little bit of dirt, you
would be fine, but you don't need big clumps of
dirt and rocks stuck inside of your intestines because you're
gonna have a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I guess I just don't understand, because like the way
I feel like cravings are explained is that you have
to have it right then and there.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
You're gonna drop dead type of thing.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And I just haven't experienced that at all. It's the
number one question. Everybody asked me, what are you craving?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I like orange juice more than I usually do.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, but you're like a total fine, you're like a militant.
I've had this manys the fallic hascid today, Like you
know what I mean, Like you're on top of all,
you're eating nutritiously and this is especially in areas of
different areas of the world where people don't have adequate
nutrition and things like that. So it just means that
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you don't have a nutritional deficiency. I guess, well, that's
very nice to hear. Okay.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
So also on social media, this viral claim that you
could scoop out your period, which.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Is putting doctors in quite the dizzy. Well, I mean,
in theory, if you want to talk about what happens
every month, you have an endomutral lining, which is the
lining of your uterus, and all months it kind of
builds up to make the perfect environment for a growing embryo,
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and if you don't get pregnant, then that lining is
all shed and comes out, which they always are like, oh,
it's like two tablespoons of blood. And no, I don't
know person that bleeds like that, right, So it's it's
like bucket Gallon's buckets of blood. No, it's not. But
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in theory, you could go up because we've gotten so
many uterus specimens in the lab right, and sometimes it's like, oh,
this person was about to have their period, Like you
could scoop it right out. You could, if you had
the uters in front of you, you could scoop it out.
You could do two procedures to do that, which is
one is an endometrial curetage. So they go up dilate
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your cervix, which is an awful, awful feeling, and they
go in with this this like tool that looks like
a spark kind of it's like a spoon with teeth
on it that they could scrape it out. It's curetage, right.
They do this with abortions. They also do this, like
I had it done two different times because I had
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endometrial polyps, so I had to have the procedure under anesthesia,
by the way, because that's how bad it's sucks. So
and I don't really know of any doctor that you
could go to once a month that's going to do that,
and I certainly would hope that nobody would try to
do that to themselves. You could also do It's the
same exact thing you could do with the suction, like
the same with the abortion, right, nobody's going to do
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that to themselves hopefully, and if no doctor's going to
do that hopefully. So in theory, it's you can't really
do it on your own. If you ever introduce anything
into the end of mutual cavity, it's sterile. So you
certainly should not. You should be taking antibiotics after you
get a procedure done. You should never be sticking anything
up inside of your uterus, like by yourself. I think
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if any woman actually tried to do this, they'd be like,
f this, this hurts way too bad, right, So I
don't know exactly what they're talking about. Sometimes you can
get like a glob of like mucissie blood that's stuck
in the cervical aus or the opening, and when like
if you go to the doctor to get a pap smear,
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for example, and you have your period, like they might
use like a syringe to kind of suck that little
bit out of the hole there. But this is just terrible,
Like why is anybody? Why is anybody saying this?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
So I guess in theory you can, but you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, you just shouldn't. Nobody should ever try to do
something like that. Never.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
People should stop listening to idiots on social media first
of all, because I feel like this is where we
get into problems like this.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
If you when you get a PAP smear, it's and
some women are more sensitive. I feel like I have
the most sensitive cervix ever. Like it's just I hate
the feeling of it. It's just it's gross. That's the
feeling you get when you have contractions, when you have
a baby. It's like, it's just a gross feeling there.
To think that anybody would actually try to introduce something
up there to to stop bleeding. And on top of that,
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you could really scar yourself up there, especially if you
haven't had children yet or something like. It's just don't
ever fiddle with that because you're really going inside of
your body like surgically.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, I don't. I think you just gotta let it be.
It's like people try to do all weird stuff to
their vaginas and it's like, just leave it alone. It
doesn't want to be messed with all. Right, now, onto
your questions and emails. First is from Crystal. She said,
at work, I deal with lots of debts and sending
people off to Theme's office. I always thought that an
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autopsy was an autopsy, but we had a very obvious
tragulation homicide. I heard that the initial autopsy didn't show enough,
so they were going to have a forensic autopsy done.
Does that sound right? Or was the person who said
that to me dingis Also I was wondering if each
autopsy is done the same way, like if each person
(53:54):
has their own groove and always starts at one part
it works systematically through or do you start we're the
most ob trauma is like if someone got shot in
the head, would you start there and work the rest
of the body or do you always start in the
same place.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
This is a very loaded question, Crystal, all right, So first,
if you had someone this is how it should go.
If you had someone come into the hospital and you're
saying it was a very obvious strangulation, which to me
means they came in and were alive and then died.
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So I feel like there should be some kind of
history with that. And if there was a suspected homicide case,
that case should automatically go to a corner or medical
examiner's office for a forensic autopsy. I don't know where
you lived, so things might be different there. If there
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is a chance that the autopsy was done at the hospital,
and then the person doing the autopsy that would be
like someone like me, Like, I'm I it specialized in
hospital autopsy, that's what my training is, so I wouldn't
feel comfortable doing even though I could recognize, like, something's
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not right here. This person looks like they've been strangled,
I don't have the qualifications to say that that has
to be looked at by a forensic pathologist. So there's
been a couple of situations at the hospital where we
will start the autopsy and then we're like, eh, it's
usually a person that died during a procedure or something,
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which is like a weird gray area. And then you'll
call the medical examiner and be like, hey, this person's
got trauma. Do you want to take this case? And
then they'll say yes or no. Sometimes, you know, we
would talk to the medical examiner because sometimes they would
let us do it, like an old guy who fell
and hit his head on the toilet and lived in
the hospital for a week and then he ended up dying,
(55:52):
Like they would just say there's enough documentation there at
the hospital of his injuries that like, you guys could
do the autops you will sign the desk certificate whatever.
So in that particular case, that's kind of weird because
homicide cases are not done by in thet They're not
supposed to be done in the hospital. But I guess
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that could happen in some world. So I hope that
answers your question. As far as the procedure to doing
an autopsy. No, every everyone does it differently according to
what they like, and a forensic autopsy will be done
a little bit differently for every autopsy. We we I think,
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across the board, for both forensic and normal autopsy. We
will start with an external exam and at that time
we go over normal changes like rigor mortis, lib remortis,
things like that that are associated with death. So we'll
look at that. We'll look at their state of general health.
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Do they look like they you know, this person says
they're forty You know this paper says this person's forty
eight years old. Did they look forty eight years old?
Did they look sixty eight because they live the really
hard life or they're sick or something like that. We
just look for different things like that, are they malnourished,
Are they this or that? And then we look for
evidence of trauma in the hospital, most traumas just going
to be from things that the doctors and nurses did
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to you, like needlesticks and things like that, or just
any kind of medical intervention. But that's where it kind
of differs for forensic ones because they're looking for like
if you're saying this person was strangled, they would be
looking for bruises and stuff outside of the neck at
least on the external exam, or any other indication that
there was some kind of a struggle. So sometimes if
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a person was like manually strangled, for example, like think
about this, like if a guy comes up to you
and starts strangling your neck, you're going to fight back, right,
so you might have like bloody broken fingernails and scratches
and like evidence that there was some kind of a struggle.
But and then when you do the internal exam, it's
kind of the same thing, like we're all looking for
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the same thing, except they in that particular case would
be more trauma focused instead of medical focused, whereas we,
like especially in the teaching hospital, we'll look at people's testicles,
like if a guy had a heart attack, we'll look
at his testicles just for learning purposes, you know, was
anything going on there? We examine everything, whereas like if
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they did an autopsy and saw that a person was
strangled to death, they're not really going to care about
like what that lady's ovaries look like, if she was
like what you know, day of her period she was
supposed to be on, and stuff like that, Like none
of that stuff really matters in forensic cases. But different
places like look at different things more. It just depends
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on their volume and what they want to do. But
in theory, like a forensic autopsy just needs to tell
how the manner and cause of death, whereas in the
hospital a lot of times we're using it for tell.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
So you're saying, like, if you had a case that
had an obvious trauma, you would look at the traumatic
injuries first and then proceed like normal. Because one of
her questions is like, do you start every autopsy the
exact same despite how you thought they died, or do
you approach it differently based on what you know?
Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, I mean, like so if you if you see
a person got shot, for example, the main goal of
the medical examiner is to Okay, the manner of death
is homicide. I mean it could be whatever, because it
could be homicide, suicide, accident, whatever. I don't know the
exact situation that that person would be in, but you
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want to determine the manner and then you want to
determine the cause. So you're going to the biggest thing
is is that they're going to want to document where
like how many times the person was shot, Where did
the bullet hit, Is there still a bullet left in
the person, what angle did it go in? Did it
was there an entrance room, was they're an exit wound?
Things like that, like what was the final one? Because
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like sometimes people get shot by two different guns and
the person that did you know, you could shoot two
different people, could shoot one person with two different guns
and one could go through their leg and one could
go through their heart, and the one that went through
their heart is going to get in more trouble than
the one that went through their leg, like you know
what I mean. Like, so there's there's just like all
this different stuff that has to be documented in those cases.
(01:00:27):
So yeah, I mean it's like if you have a
person in front of you that was shot to death,
it seems like it doesn't really matter if they had
like an occlusion in their coronary arteries at that point, right,
It's like that's not but.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
You're starting, like the question, like you're starting at the
gunshot wound and then you're working around that just for
like straightforward answer, it's it's just not like you're starting
on the outside of the body and then you're going
inside the body both times, Like Okay, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Like I don't, I don't don't really know how else
to explain it. It changes for every single body, Like
it's there's no there's no procedure. Really, it's the only
thing that's the same is that everyone starts on the
outside and works their way in. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I think that was like kind of the question though, Yeah,
is everyone approached similarly, but case by case you have Yeah,
I mean even with like there's different kinds of ways
to take out the organs, Like you could literally go
inside a person and take out their organs like you
would a deer that you just shot. You could take
it out from from mouth, takeinus all in one piece,
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or you could take it out organ by organ, or
you could take it out by like I like to
do it like a combination of all that, Like this
comes out together, this stays to stay to you know.
But if a person had surgery, for example, I would
approach it different. If a person died from a certain
thing that I was looking for, I would approach it different.
So it's like it's just like an ever changing thing
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depending on the circumstances. All right, This next one's from Mariah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Hi there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Just wanted to share a funny story with both of you.
I recently got a friend hooked on listening to your show.
It's been a long time Instagram follower and grocery member.
So my friend is pregnant and she sold some candles
to a girl on Facebook marketplace. They had some sort
of run around meeting up, and my friend mentioned being
pregnant because pregnancy brain made her space on a meetup
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one day, So this chick friended my friend on Facebook.
That's her only friend, super sketchy profile with no info
aside from a name, no profile picture, a date of birth,
but nothing else. Then she was texting my friend wanting
to go to lunch and be friends. And we are
out here saving lives because my friend realized this is
one hundred percent a future episode of Mother Nosta and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
We're first for I was literally thinking that just I'm sorry,
but it's just it's just weird and I love that
the that the friend is like stalking the other one's
account to be like who is she friends with? What's
her bio look like? All that stuff? And especially I
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don't you know, I always say I hate Facebook, But
on Facebook, don't you have to say who you are?
It's not like as secretive as Instagram. No, so you
can make a fake, fake Facebook account one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
It's it's as easy as making a fake Instagram account.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
But do people do that? I just feel like as
all the.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Time, don't you know about all these boomers getting like scammed?
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No? I do, I do, But I didn't think it
was like I feel like it's common on Instagram that
you're on Instagram. It's like your name isn't really your
name's not really your name? You know what I mean?
Like it like it's it doesn't have to be your
first and last name. It could just be like, wait,
some girl, some girl just messaged me and had the
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best one. It was like on Friendly Black Hottie, is
that that was from me? And girls?
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
But like that's that's that's her name. Like, whereas the
people at least all the the people that I'm like
associate with on Facebook or like their first and last
name and it says like who they're married to and
their kids a pennormal person.
Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
But like any I could go on there right now
and make a profile pretending to be you. All I
need is one picture of you and know your name,
so all right, so I wouldn't even associate with anyone
then that had a fake that had a fake account.
Well this is kind of on there, cause it's just
it's just I don't know if I'm explaining myself right,
(01:04:28):
like I feel like on Instagram, it's just like think
about all the people you're friends with on Instagram, like
all of my friends like Kara's names like rule follower, right,
like that's it doesn't say my name's this and that
and I live here and these are my kids and
this is my wife and you know, it doesn't have
all that written out, whereas whereas like on Facebook, it's
more like LinkedIn or something like it's like this is
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who you are kind of thing. It's just so a
little hold on, let me finish reading this and then
we can talk. So she said she was coming up
with a way to ghost this chick because after she
asked me if she was being too paranoid, I said, no, protect.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Clean as the fetus. Oh my god, no.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Now she's going to have to move because this chick
knows where she lives.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So okay, I think when you're people, I need to
stop selling low budget items on Facebook. The risk is
not worth it, like candles, What are you getting for that?
Like twenty bucks at the most?
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Just I agree, and it's because I've had a couple
shady situations on Facebook marketplace. I used to think Craigslist
was the shadiest place on the Internet, and I actually
think it's Facebook Marketplace. So like I think when sometimes
you list something for sale right, somebody could see your
profile picture and your name, and then when they message you,
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it's not always super easy to get on their profile.
It's like this weird marketplace interface, Like if you click
on their picture, it'll take you to the listing they're
messaging you about. So it's you have to take more
steps than necessary to investigate the person you're talking to.
I've definitely had instances where I was selling stuff in
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the city and then they'd want to meet up and
then they suggests like a really weird spot, and I'm like,
I don't feel comfortable with this. And I think there
is this weird market of people that are like weirdly
wanting to attack pregnant people. And there's an episode of
I Survived. I think there's a couple of stories like
this where women went to go buy baby clothes and
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we're obviously pregnant in their profile pictures and then they
end up getting in really bad scenarios. So I don't
I don't think she has to move, but I understand
the paranoia on your saying, because that is really weird behavior.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, and this is like, this is almost like a
Dear Abbey situation. What would you do?
Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I don't know, because you don't like, how do you
end the friendship? Like she's trying to ghost her, but
if you ghost people that ship she was supposed to
buy the candles, but she's saying, there has to be
some kind of relationship if she wants to go, if
she has to go somebody, well, she's saying, because the girl,
(01:07:05):
like you exchange numbers sometimes to orchestra to pick up
and then the girl got her number and now she's
asking her to get lunch and stuff, but like she
won't leave her alone seemingly. I don't know what because
it's like, you, what are you gonna call the cops
over that? It's not like it's not cop territory, but
like I know they're not gonna do anything. But this
(01:07:27):
is the fine line of problems that so many people have.
It's like not bad enough to call the cops, but
then once it gets there, you're murdered. Like where's who's
the in between person to talk to? Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I when I read this email, it was like Kismet
timing because we are getting rid of a bunch of
like furniture in the house to try to start getting
stuff ready for the baby, right, and we have like
a couple piece of furniture the I'm like, I don't
even need to sell, but I don't want to like
throw them out. I just want to make sure somebody
like gets something right. So I was gonna put like
a free pick up in this general area, but then
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I'm like my profile picture, I'm holding my ultrasounded.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
It starts firing and I'm definitely a crazy paranoid person,
but I think we.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Need to stop selling on Facebook. Marketplace, Yeah, especially like
your bras well, that's your mother, So I think you
guys made the right decation. Marketplace is awesome. It's awesome though,
Like especially you could get a lot of people like
we'll ship you stuff, or if you're trying to find
something weird, like I was trying to find a ballerina
(01:08:35):
for my Christmas display outside, which I found, but it
was all the way in New York and I wasn't
gonna drive out there. But I'm like, this is kind
of cool that, like the thing I'm looking for is here,
and I could. I mean, it sucks that you because,
like honest people, it's it's an awesome tool. Yeah, but
then there's freaks on there. Yeah, I mean I would.
I would absolutely, I mean you could block, you could
(01:08:58):
block them. But now she knows where she lives, I
don't know, Like I mean, if she shows up to
her house under any circumstance, she should call the police
and get a restraining order against this person. I'd say
document everything. Go on your Facebook. Screenshot all the messages
and the profile screenshot, the text messages with the phone number,
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keep them in a secret folder that this listener that
wrote in your friend knows about.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
And if God forbid anything happens, at least you have
all the evidence backing you up.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Because we need to talk to like one of our
cop friends about this, Like what what is their advice?
Because I know they can't do what are they going
to do? It's just like that fine that gray area
of the like inaprol And sometimes people just don't understand
normal social cues that like you don't do that, Like
(01:09:52):
maybe she genuinely just wants to have a friend and
like thought that they had good conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Well, this reminds me of when my door dashed driver
messaged me on the app and was like, I need
you to leave me cash. I don't have gas money,
and I'm like, of course, it's a night, I'm home alone,
it's dark outside, and like yeah, like people.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Just don't realize what's inappropriate. You know, you're just kind
of like e that you probably shouldn't do that, but
like maybe maybe the whole thing is just you know,
we just have true crime on the brain all the time,
Like it could be totally innocent, exactly, and I think
that's our problem because every time I hear of these
situations or I'm like explaining that, like I'm explaining the
(01:10:31):
door dash situation to somebody right and they're just like,
you're crazy, and I'm like, I'm not crazy. Do you
understand the stories we cover every single decree? I thought
everyone was a pedophile from the time she was like twelve. Yeah,
every most of them are. You should always be on
pedal look up.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I think the step she need to take is documenting
the entire interaction. Block their number, block their Facebook, and
hope they don't show up to your house.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
And if they do, you might need to make call
the po PO.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
But I think people need to exercise some caution because
it is a complete stranger come in to your house.
Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
So like, think about this.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Would you just go to the mall and make eye
contact with somebody and say, come to my house?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Like I personally think if you like you're saying with
your furniture, if you put it out on the curb
and you just said hi, I just put a bunch
of stuff on the curb and it's free and the
person's not coming to your front door or anything, like
I understand they could look at your profile and stuff,
but like I feel like that's probably okay because they're
(01:11:37):
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I just have to.
It's the interact, Like you really shouldn't have to have
an interaction with the person if you if you don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I have one particular scary interaction where I did. I
do like porch pickup, which is I'll put the item
on my porch or my driveway and then just be
like leave the cash like in my mailbox or venome
or whatever. Right, And then one time I did that,
it was like they didn't come, Like they're supposed to
come about three o'clock in the afternoon. They didn't come
till eight o'clock at night.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Ricky was at.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Home, and then they were knocking on my door and
I'm like, why are you knocking on my door? Like
this was already orchestrated because I was out there.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, I mean, you have strangers come over all the
time for like deliveries and door dash and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
So it's like, I don't know, I totally feel you though,
I think you made I think you just need to
block all right. Last, Maria, what is your Goodreads account?
Can we follow guys. I'm really sorry, but I'm never
making a public I'm embarrassed by my choices.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
And I can't. I can't do it. I just can't
do it. Really been thinking about that. All I want
to let you guys know is that she she just
bought a book for our employee Jen for Christmas and
it is a romance novel involving She's shape shifters. Listen.
(01:12:55):
I posted my top five books.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Of the year on my Instagram story on New Year's
Eve and I will continue to do that and recommend
them on the show or YouTube or whatever as I
go along. But I can watch somebody find your account
and like, AlCH you well.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Private.
Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Even one of my husband's friends was like can I
follow you? And I was like no, like literally nobody.
I can't have it and I only use it for
tracking purposes for myself. So I'm sorry. I admittedly read
terrible smart books, and I don't want everybody to know
my business.
Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Like that's I will share. This is like this is
like the good Reads version of an Internet porn history
or something. It might be worse because of some of
not even because of the romance books, because you're because
you're like reading romances about people sticking Gouda in their
I didn't read that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
When FYI went to the store and to what's the
most ridiculous book you sell here? And that is what
the women that own the store directed me too. No,
but I like I read a lot of health help books,
like I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Want people my business. I just don't. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Like I'm reading a book about multi level marketing right now.
Is that interesting to everybody? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
So well, Gabe and I just listened to Mary Shelley's
Frankenstein and it was it was amazing. I did read
it in when I was younger, but it was good
to listen to again. It's so dramatic and now like
we're just like doing the monster's voice for like our kids,
and it's just great.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
That is a good book. My number one book of
last year was Anderson Scooper Anderson Cooper's Vanderbilt Book, and
then I.
Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Followed it up with another list.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Maybe I'll make a highlight on my Instagram so you
guys could all revisit it. But that's all I'm gonna
say on that. All right, thank you guys so much.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We took a
little vacation from the news over the past couple of weeks,
and man a lot has happened. We're gonna go over
some of the top stories, including the shocking or not
shocking news that defense attorney Alan Jackson quit, the Nick
Rayner case, the viral video of the malfunction at the
(00:40):
Indiana Jones stunt show in Disney, and what seems to
be an increase in incidents at Disney within the past
couple of months. I don't know what you guys will think.
Then we'll discuss the dentist and the wife who has
found shot to death in their home, the new season
of My Strange Addiction and the medical reason behind why
some of these people are eating all of this weird stuff,
(01:01):
and a viral TikTok video telling people to scoop out
their period to avoid the messiness that comes with it
once a month. All that and more, plus will follow
up with your questions, comments and emails. All right, alan Ja,
I feel like there's even more. I just there's so
much stuff that's happened. I really wanted to talk about
(01:23):
stranger things, but I don't want to bore people who
are not interested, because that's like a whole other thing.
Maybe we'll talk about at the end of the episode,
but let's let's get started first with this. Alan Jackson.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I was gonna say, well, well, well look who's finally
back from vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It was. It was a nice vacation. We were off.
This was the longest trip we ever took, which was
a solid two weeks. We left on Christmas night, so
Christmas Day, but at night, and we flew to San Francisco,
and then we drove down the Pacific Coast Highway as
far as we could before we hit the mud slide area.
(01:58):
And then we went to Anaheim to Disney, and then
we kind of went across Route ten along the southern
border to New Orleans and then went home. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Well, you're lucky you came back when you did, because
Cheryl's trying to kick you out of your job and
trying to say good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
She's like, she's so perfect that she that she filled in.
That was awesome. No, she was great.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, But let's talk about this Nick Reinder case we
have a lot to get to. So we reported before
holiday break that famed attorney Alan Jackson was going to
be representing Nick Reiner, and now he has quit the
case and said he has no choice. I think this
is you know, I don't know. I thought it was
weird that he took the case on to begin with,
and I'm not super surprised that he.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
We talked about that with Jarret right, Yes, okay, so
we did think it. We did think it was weird.
Why would he be able to get this big, fancy
attorney when he just killed his parents Because the only
reason that he has money is because of his parents,
So we thought it would be weird that his dead
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parents are paying for the attorney of the person who
murdered them, right, I mean, that's essentially what's happening. So
now I just think some of the terminology is a
little bit weird. Like obviously, so Alan Jackson just to
remind you guys of his fanciness as a lawyer defense attorney,
(03:24):
as he just represented Karen Reid, right, and she and
won that case. So now he's going to be well
sawt after as being able to win these higher profile cases.
So he just said that it was due to circumstances
beyond our control and more importantly, beyond Nick's control.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, and then found that with I'm legally and ethically
prohibited from explaining all the reasons why, but they're still
insisting that he's not guilty. I yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why he took this on. And by
the way, this Karen Reid Lifetime movies coming out this weekend.
I have to watch it. It's gonna be so terrible.
(04:06):
I cannot wait to see how they.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I feel like I feel like we should we have
to have like a watch party and talk about it.
There's like, there's there's lots of stuff too that we
need to watch. There's just a lot. The whole entire
time I was on the trip, I opened up a
page in notes and just started writing all this stuff
down that I want to talk about just from my
trip to But yeah, like I feel like we should
(04:30):
all watch Maybe we could do something like that, because
did we ever do an episode that was just talking
about the Karen Reid case. I feel like we did.
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
We did a full episode breaking down the Karen Reid case.
I feel like it was when you had your face surgery.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, I don't remember. It was that like June. So
I feel like I feel like maybe we should re
upload it and then at the end if we could,
at the end of it, the reap of the move,
do a recap of the exactly, like something like that,
talking about it, just because once that comes out, it's
gonna be frsh in a lot of people's minds and
(05:11):
they might they they might want to hear about the case,
like the actual forensics of the case.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well that's a great idea, So either look out for
that next week because we're gonna have to watch this
and then we have to talk about it because you know,
Lifetime just they're just all over the place and how
they represent these cases.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
But I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
But yeah, I agree with you, Like, he definitely was
a high profile attorney when he took this Karen Reid
case on, and he's definitely gonna be sought out because
of how complicated that one was, and this case definitely
is gonna be very complicated. Because TMC was reporting that
Nick Rener was diagnosed with schizo effective disorder back in
twenty twenty. He had seemingly two loved ones been stable
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on medication until about a month before the murders, and
then all of a sudden, the doctor switched his medication
and that's when he started in spiraling. So I'm really
interested me as though.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Like I know that this is the narrative that they're
telling us, but this is like if you have a
regular person that's diagnosed with some kind of schizophrenia and
then is on medication, but this guy was admittingly doing
myth okay, so like it's not just like, oh, this
this asshole psychiatrist changes medication and he went nuts, like
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which I'm assuming is why they're saying he's not guilty,
because they're going to try to use that or like
I said before, they're going to try to make some
really terrible allegations against the parents and it's going to
be like a Menendez situation, which I think we've talked
about with Jared as well, So like how why else
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would he say the guy's not guilty, Well he's not.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, I now that he's going with a public defender.
I think exactly they're going to take one of those
two approaches. And also I feel like Alan Jackson may
have just simply dropped out over money, right, because this
whole time we're like, where is he getting this money
to pay?
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That's super these the circumstances beyond his control. He doesn't
have control of his bank account. That's that is the
huge thing. Don't these lawyers of.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This caliber charge like eight thousand dollars an hour or
something outrageous?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Like where is this kid getting money?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And if he has a trust fund that has been
being dealt out in installments, I doubt whoever is the
executor of that account is gonna be giving him money
for this And you don't even know he might not
have that much in it. You just really don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I did read at some point that he had this
ten thousand dollars a month allowance, which is outrageous.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It's outrageous, but it's not it's that's one and a
half hours of Alan Jackson's work, not even so.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Well, maybe he had some money saved up and was
it because don't you have to pay a retainer fee?
Or maybe maybe the guy was just like you know
what this is, like, I'm gonna waive the fee for
right now because this is like a huge I am
curious because you would think just the terminology of it
and everything. It's just interesting and I feel like there's
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a little bit more to the story and I am
curious how this is going to unfold. But unfortunately this
is prolonging things even more for us to learn about.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
So yeah, because his arraignments now have been pushed to
the end of February, so we're not even going to
know what his plea is yet until then because the
public defender needs some time to work with him. But
I don't think it's looking very good for him, and
I agree with you one hundred percent. They're going to
try to come out with some either blame against the
doctor or against the parents or something to try to
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get him off with this.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
If they're going to try to go for insanity, But
isn't that nearly impossible to prove.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't know that it's impossible to prove. I just
think that it's already kind of been proven that it's
not correct because he did there is evidence of him
going to a convenience store afterwards and buying a drink
and paying for the drink, all things that like, if
the guy was completely out of his mind, you would
think that he went to the store and just grabbed
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it and started drinking it right there and walked out,
like you know that it's not right to steal stuff, right,
so you know he knew what was going on. He
was able to pull out a credit card and make
a payment and that whole thing. But like he has
this history of being on psychomed, so obviously that's going
to come into play. We were talking about that a
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lot with like that woman named Lindsay Clancy. We vote
about her in the gross room too, But she was
a little bit more of a different situation because she
was seemed to be having postpartum depression and was on
all of these different medications within a short period of
time and ended up killing her three children. But she
wasn't also I mean, as far as we know right now,
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she wasn't also on illegal psychoactive drugs, which also, you know,
could change the chemical makeup of how the psych medications
are working. Right, So that'll all come out, it'll all
come out. I just I just really really hope that
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it doesn't go down a path of accusing people of something.
Unless they did do that, then of course you could say,
of course, but all right, let's get let's get on
to Disney So the day so I went to Disney
I always I've said this on the show before that Disneyland,
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my Disneyland experiences at least are far superior than Disney World.
I've only been there twice, but both times have been amazing.
The weather's been nice. I wore I wore a sweatshirt,
that's it all day. It wasn't cold, it wasn't hot,
it didn't rain. It was perfect, it was comfortable. There
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weren't kids complaining they were hot and needed a drink
of water every five seconds. It was it was just
night right. The whole experience was nice. But so I
went on December thirtieth, which was the day before New
Year's Eve, and I feel like, I don't know if
people just didn't want to go because they wanted to
go on New Year's Eve, but it just was kind
of dead. The ride, everything was just good, but on
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that day, and I didn't even know about this until
after I had left the park, But at the Indiana
Jones ride, there was a fight in line between someone
cutting in line and this guy like sucker punched another
guy in the face to the point where he got
a laceration and needed sutures. So he punched him pretty
(11:38):
hard and the guy like fled the park and left.
So they don't even know who it is. And they're like,
if you have any information, they know they are like
queens of biometric Well I was thinking that too, because
you know, when when we checked in with our tickets,
it was like they took a picture of our face.
They know who it is exactly, but they might and
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they should know because when you buy the tickets, it's
connected to your name and stuff. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Not only that, but like remember the one time we
were there and then we were all on our apps
and all of a sudden it was like, here's the
picture from the ride you just went on it of
you and I'm like, well, how did you know what tried?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was just on?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
How did you know which Kara was on? How is
my face in this app right now? I didn't scan
anything to come in here.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I didn't do the best stupid the magic bands. No, Like,
this trip was just we just went. It was quick.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
We didn't have the bands, we didn't scan anything, and
all of a sudden, all these pictures of us are showing.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Up in the app.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
But it wasn't just us collectively. It was like my
face was in my app, your face was in your app.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, I don't it. That didn't happen this time. So
I don't know if it's a difference between Disney We're
Old or Disneyland, but anyway, so, so this fight happened,
and which I'm just like, man, I wish I would
I wish I would witness that. I don't ever see
any drama at Disney. And Lily and love it because
she's like an ambulance chaser. She's just like, like I
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told her today, she's so nosy. We were driving to
school today and there was a paramedic outside of someone's
house and she's like, Oh my god, I wonder what's
going on over there. She's such like a rubbernecker, you know.
And I'm just like, dude, maybe you should be a reporter.
You seem like you're kind of like a news junkie,
you know. And so so yeah, so so that happened,
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and then other stuff has been happening too. Another person
apparently killed themselves there this week, and someone choked to
death on food and there's a lawsuit you see did
you see that?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, which I don't I guess the angle they're coming
out with this lawsuit is that the restaurant was delayed
in calling emergency services. And I think that would be
valid in like the nineties when nobody had cell phones.
But everybody has cell phones, So why couldn't somebody at
the table call and listen? Like I'm not saying I
just think that's what they're gonna say in court. Like
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I think when somebody's having a medical emergency, you're distracted
and you asked somebody else to do it, that you're
not trying to do it. But I think they're gonna
come at you like, well, why didn't you call and
expected the restaurant to call, because that's where they're going
after them for it.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah. I guess this guy was He was around my age, right,
and just was eating some kind of steak and started choking,
and I guess a bunch of people tried to give
him the Heimlich and it didn't help, and which sucks
and is scary. You ever see that little contraption I've
seen advertisements for that's like a I think it's called
(14:37):
like Life Back or something. Yeah, it like sucks it
like sucks it out. I mean honestly, I don't, and
I don't know, like I like if if those people
want to send me one and I'll do a promotion
for them. I haven't looked up like how good it
is or or anything. But if that thing works, you
would think that most people who own restaurants would just
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want to have something like that there, just because you
don't ever want anybody choking on food and dying at
your restaurant. Like, if that thing works and you but
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
You don't, but you also, as a restaurant, I don't
think have any liability if somebody were to choke unless
there was like a foreign object in the food that
was not supposed to be there. But that's kind of
just a freak accident, right, So I don't really know
legally how that works with a restaurant, but yeah, I
would be surprised if if that went through and they
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settled with them or whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So I'm curious about the investigation with that too. I
just it's funny because I just wrote about this in
the Grosser Room a few weeks ago, but I made
this post called Chicken and Cocktail Choke, And the reason
that I wrote this post was because I found this study.
It was a very small study that they did on
nine different people who choked to death on their food, right,
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and it was just the findings were really interesting. Out
of the nine people, five of them were drinking alcohol
and eating meat. It was just like this weird com
I mean, for this small sample size, it's just like
a combination of something about drinking alcohol and how it
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affects the swallowing reflexes and also not really breaking down
like let's say if you put if you put a
piece of bread in your mouth, like it breaks down
into a thin paste if you you know, if you're
not putting a huge piece, and it breaks down easier
than meat does. So the bollss of meat that that
you chew, it's you're only really breaking it down, not
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that much that the more of that breakdown process comes
after you know, it's in your stomach and you have
your the acids in your stomach are further breaking down
the meat. So it creates like a bulliss or like
a ball of food that gets stuck. And so I
just I'm wondering what the investigation, like, was he drinking
a lot of alcohol because we know that people in
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Disney drink alcohol, especially because like if you're staying there
and you don't have to drive and stuff, like what
factors cause that because usually people that are healthy, they
don't they don't just choke like that unless they have
a neurological condition or something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I don't know, because I would say if you're gonna
study anybody that's eating dinner in particular, that it's extremely
common that people have a drink with dinner. So I
feel like that's just gonna come up often.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I don't think it's a drink though, it's like a drunk,
you know what I mean. There's just a difference between
like having a glass of wine and eating steak as
opposed to like you're drunk, You're you're drunk and you're
eating so.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean normal, like I choke, Like I've had a
couple like oh my god, I'm alone and I'm choking moments,
but I'm able to get it out right. But like,
I don't know, I think, yeah, I could see it's
like some people maybe aren't paying attention to the sizes
they're taking in or something because maybe they are influenced.
But I do think it just could happen to anybody.
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It's not like it's only going to target a certain
demographic of people.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know how that's gonna go down,
And I don't know what their responsibility is for that.
It's it's interesting, but people, I mean people, people die
that way, and I don't know that it's really the
responsibility of the rest you know, I don't. I really
don't know. But I mean, you worked in a restaurant,
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you should you should know more.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, I don't think unless,
like you know, there's obviously incidents sometimes where pieces of
gloves or like weird things get in the food or
whatever sometimes. So I think if the foreign body that
wasn't supposed to be in the food causes the person
to choke to death, then I feel like the restaurant
is liable because that object wasn't supposed to be in
the food. But I think if it's just like they're
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just choking on a piece of steak, I mean, like
that could be down to the size the person cut
it themselves, or many factors like you're saying. So, like,
I can't see how the restaurant would be liable for that.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
In that case.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But I guess the big headline coming out of Disney
this week is this incident that happened on the Indiana
Jones ride, unlike the one you were just talking about.
But for those of all, this isn't this the one
in For those of you who are unfamiliar, the one
that I went to in Disneyland is actually a ride,
and the one in Disney World is an experience.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's it's a it's a stunt show. But it's so
before Maria gets started, let me just tell you a
little bit about this ride. This ride started in thirty
six years ago, nineteen eighty nine, multiple performances a day,
oldest opening attraction at Hollywood Studios, and it's it and
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it's the only one that's that's still open from the
original all of the original things. And we could go
on a whole rant about that, about how awesome it
was in the eighties and nineties when it when it opened.
But that particular ride has seen some ride experience has
had some issues over the years, But in relation to
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how many performances they had over the years, I think
that it's low they've had. In the nineties, they had
Osha had to come out because people. A couple people
fell like serious heights twenty five feet thirty feet doing
the stunt, and there was a person that did die
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practicing to do the stunts as well. So they've had
a few issues, but nothing like this, especially that almost
involved the audience.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So for those of you that are not familiar with
the Indiana Jones attraction at Disney World, it is this
stunt show where they come out and they try to
show you how the stunts are done in the movie basically,
So at this particular attraction, they have this giant, four
hundred pound twelve feet rubber ball that goes down this
track and then the actor playing Indiana Jones all of
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a sudden disappears below it and they show how they
make movie magic happen. So in this case, this ball
goes off track and starts going towards the audience, which
I'm thinking, if you've never seen it before, you might
not understand that this isn't part of the show. And
this guy working on it comes off from the side
to try to stop it, and I hate to laugh,
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but he just totally gets bounced right off this thing
on the ground, and it is this horrible thing to watch.
He is a hero because if that went into the audience,
that could have caused serious issues.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And this guy is really hurt from this. Yeah, he
clearly in the video got knocked down to the ground
and seemed like he was out of it for a
minute and then got up on his feet and had
blood on his head was brought to the hospital. I
wouldn't be surprised if he had at least a concussion
from this. I'm not sure exactly what his injuries were.
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Apparently he was a former stunt actor and really knew
the implications of what would happen if that four hundred
pound ball went into the audience, especially with little children
sitting there, and jumped in to try to at least bounce.
I mean, he did a great job what he did
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and put his body in it looked like he actually
braced himself in its special kind of way to get
it to do what it did. So that guy is
really a hero, and especially Disney should be like compensating
him big time because if that hit the audience like that,
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especially like you you're there to watch, it's quite It's
an amazing show, and especially in nineteen eighty nine when
I first saw it. It was really amazing. They have
fire people jumping from high distances, falling off ladders, doing
all this really cool acrobat stuff, and when you're watching
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it happen, they try to make it seem like the
actor gets injured, so everyone's like, oh my god, is
he okay? You just got ran over by this big ball. So,
like you if and like Maria was saying, if you
never saw it before, you you might just be kind
of confused. And if it was coming towards you, it
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almost it almost looks like it's a giant beach ball. Yeah,
but it's not at all. It's four hundred pounds. Along
with the force of it moving hitting people would have
been really really bad.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh yeah, And I don't know. I just was sitting there.
I'm like watching this video on repeat. You know, we've
seen it a million times, so I know exactly what's happening.
I actually couldn't believe it hasn't happened before where it's
gone off the track, because.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It comes off so easily and it never came off
the track once, which is it's just really it's really amazing.
So my brother just went to Disney this week and
he's like, I just saw the Indiana Jones show and
they changed it. The ball's not there anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, when they were moving I guess when they're moving
the sets around to go to the next scene, you
can see it like tucked away. But they did not
have it come out, which they're saying is only temporary change.
But this could have been seriously really bad if it
wasn't for that guy.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, And I mean in the intro, I was like, Oh,
it just seems like there's like this increase of things happening,
and it's just I mean, everybody just has a phone.
It's just gonna happen. I tried, personally, if I'm at
something like that, it actually drives me nuts when people
do that, because I'm just like, why don't you just
sit here and watch it and like live the experience
instead of looking at it through your phone and worrying
(24:48):
about if you're recording it right, Because how often do
you really go back and look at those videos, like
nobody you don't look at it. It looks like shit when
you record it yourself. Yeah, just like there's so many
people that just like aren't living in the moment and
just enjoying life in front of them, you know, But
I guess in some cases it works out well because
this person was recording the whole entire thing as it happened,
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you know. Well, it's kind of like it's like the
Boeing effect, right of what two years ago, one major
catastrophe happens there that's really unusual, So then any other
time something's happening, it's just gonna keep getting recycled, and
they're gonna keep retelling all the other stories, and it
just keeps adding fuel to the fire. Yeah, and just
like and it was another Like it does seem like
(25:34):
there's been a couple suicides this year, but like maybe
there always was and we just never knew about it.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I definitely think suicides have been there in the past,
but considering how much they're publicized right now, like people
might be taking inspiration from them happening, which is why
there's an increase too. So I definitely think it's interesting
to look at. But I don't know. I feel like
this is the first Disney pure pr crisis we've seen
in a while, because they're usually really good at keeping
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these things under wraps, and they've been all over the
news in the last couple months.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
This episode is brought to you by the Growthroop. So,
as I said, there is a post showing these autopsies
of all of these different people who died, and it
is called Chicken and Cocktail Choke. And the reason I
think it just struck me as odd that yes, it
was a lot of meat, but it was in particular
(26:35):
chicken that people were choking on with and being drunk.
So and you could see what those autopsies look like
and check that out. We had a video yesterday someone
sent me on Instagram that I talked about and the
question that the person on Instagram said to me was
how is this little girl still alive? So we talk
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it has to do with the same stuff that we
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and disease obviously, and anything that has to do with
people getting hurt. But in this particular post, we talk
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about what happens when animals die and animals get cremated
and what that looks like from someone that does it.
For a living. So it's a really interesting post. So
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Speaker 2 (27:36):
All right, so this case, you know, when I'm on vacation,
obviously I'm still looking at social media, and this one
was was really it's very interesting. Right, there was a
husband and wife found murdered in their home and their
children were still there unharmed.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, this case is really unusual. So the husband in
this case was a dentist and apparently, according to everybody
around them, he was extremely punctual and he didn't show
up for work one day, which was very unusual. So
I guess that coworkers end up calling him and the
wife a bunch of times, and neither of them are answering,
which is just so out of character for both of them.
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So somebody ends up going over to the house and
not clear if they were able to get in the
house or not. I don't think they were able to
get in, but they saw a body through a window,
which they told police about, and they heard the kids crying.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So police get.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
There and they go in this house and they find
that this couple are both shot to death. But the
weird parts of this story is that no weapon was
found in the house, there's no clear signs of breaking entering.
The kids are completely unharmed, obviously, thank god. But now
it's coming out that there was a weird nine to
one one call back in April. They're not specifically saying
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it's the wife, but it seems likely it was her.
It's as an unknown female from this result.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
So it wasn't the wife. The family's saying that that's
not her voice. Wow, that's what's that's what's weird, because
anybody and I thought that because just to the way
the way that the did you read the transcript of
the nine one one call? I did, and I have
I have some things I need to say about it.
It just seems like it just seems like she called
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I guess the person who called nimon one. A woman
called Nieman one and hung up, and then nimon one
was like, why did you call us? Is everything okay?
And she was kind of crying, but she said like
she said something about being in a fight with with
like it was a domestic dispute.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, she said, me and my man got in a fight.
And then they were saying, do you still need somebody
to come there? And she said, no, I'm just very emotional,
but she was crying.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
The entire time. And then the nine.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
One one dispatcher marked it as a domestic dispute, but
no cops actually went there. And that's kind of like,
I don't know how these work, and I know it's
state by state with domestic incidents, but don't you think
they should have just sent somebody anyway considering a call
even came in, because what if like like because the guy,
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the guy could have like had a knife up to
her neck and been like, if you have them come here,
I'll kill you right now, Like yeah, I do, I
do think so and and uh, like if someone works
for emergency services like that nine on one and stuff,
we would love to hear what the protocol is. And
I'm sure, like you said, it's it's different state by state,
(30:40):
just it just it doesn't even so so her family
has said as of this morning that they that it's
not her.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Wow, So who is it? Really?
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Like that's interesting plot twist because exactly it's.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
A plot twist, but it's not a plot twist because
like if he did, if they if it wasn't a
murder suicide, which they've already rolled out, then someone killed them?
Who killed them? It was it was like, the next
thing is going to be a domestic like love lover's
quarrels situation, right, Like that's that's the most common thing
to think of next, not to say that that's what
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it is, but that that's just like a little bit weird,
Like who because we have proof now that someone made
a nine to one one call from that house at
some point, and that's just.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's just like who was that? Well, I mean, there's
many scenarios. So they've released a photo of a person
of interest that looks like a man that was walking
around in an alleyway near their house in the timeframe
they thought their murders occurred. But this is kind of
bizarre because it's like who is this woman now? So, like,
is it possible it was a relative that was staying there.
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Is it possible that the has been maybe was having
an affair? Is it possible that the pinpoint of the
nine on one call came from it incorrect location? Like
what is happening?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And like just because there was no signs of a
break and I mean, some people just sit in their
house with the door unlocked, or it could have been
somebody that they knew that they let in. Yes, there's
just like a lot of different possibilities that that happened
with that. And I mean he was a dentist and
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he I mean, there could just be like a crazy
patient too that just felt wronged or you know, I
mean you've gotten bills from the dentist before. It pisses
you off, right, so started it could it could like
you know, put you down a rabbit hole for some people.
So there's any kind of possibility. It's just it to me.
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It wasn't a robbery, right, It doesn't appear that they
took anything. They didn't harm the kids. It was very
targeted towards at least one of them, and one of
them might have gotten in the way. Like we don't
we don't know anything about the forensics of the case
as far as like what they found at the scene,
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but I do think it's interesting. Another thing, and I
don't know if you've read this either, is that one
of the neighbors has now come out and said, and
this is all like hearsay, right, one of the neighbors
has come out and said that a couple of nights ago,
there was someone like frantically banging on her door in
that neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Well, that's like extra uncomfortable to think.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
So so it just to me, it just doesn't seem
random because if like, why would you just go in
someone's house and kill a husband and wife and like
not steal any other stuff or hurt their kids, Like
what was the point? Why? What would be the randomness
of it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Then why bang on the neighbor store this this case,
I will admit, when I first a it, it just
looked like a lot of other cases that pop up
in the news. But the more details that come up
about this, it's really intriguing and I wonder what else
is gonna come out And if that yeah, if that's
if that's really the case, that the family is adamant
that that's not her on the nine one one call,
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then like.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Then like whoa what's happening? Yeah? Because who is this woman?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I don't know because it's not like the the killer
seeming by the build as a man. So like I
don't know, because I was like, if the killer was
a woman, maybe it was somebody involved in another type
of dispute with somebody in the house.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But what this woman. So, this woman in the neighborhood
who said that that she had heard someone frantically banging
on her door, actually to the point where she called
nine one one about it. Wow, So they had that
it was that night or before it was. I think
it said it was a few nights before. That's so.
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So I don't know if the police. I'm sure the
police came out for that. I don't know. Yeah, I'm
curious about this case. We'll keep you guys updated on
it if we hear anything else.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, So, after almost ten years, a new season
of My Strange Addiction has finally premiered, and I think
we could both say we're both excited about this because
that show was awesome and showed truly the weirdest things
people did. So in the original series, they were showing
a woman who slept with a hairdryer, a man who
was in love with his car, a woman who ate
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nail polish, a man who love leeches sucking on his skin,
a woman who ripped open her walls to eat the bricks.
I mean, we've talked about many of these cases throughout
many episodes of Other Nose Death, So I'm sure you've
heard it before.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
So when we're on our road trips, our go to
show that we usually watch that's usually consistently on at
night before we go to bed as Shark Tank, right,
but for whatever reason, it wasn't on when we were
in Tucson, so it was New Year's Eve too, so
I was just like, all right, what are we gonna watch?
And I go and I see my strange addiction. The
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kids have never seen it, and I show them, and
Lilian's like watching it was the episode of the guy
who has a relationship with his car, and and she
was just like, what is happening right now? And I
was just like, yeah, dude, this show's good. You have
to watch it. Because she likes the Pimple Popper show.
She's like into like, you know, she's into the drama stuff,
you know, I know. So I was like, okay, dude, yeah,
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you gotta watch this. This guy's like completely out of
his mind. And he kept calling the car his new
car lover, a luxury vehicle, and it still was like
a ten year old beat up. It might have been
Alexis at one point, but like it hasn't been for
a very long time. So anyway, in the little corner
of the Tea. I was actually posting it on my
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Instagram stories because it was just I never saw the
episode of the couple that drank pea and therapy and
each other. I don't think I saw it. I was
just like what and in the little corner it was
like new episodes coming next week, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
The nail polished one forever six in my mind because
the girl was eating it and then her mom confronts
her and goes, is this why you had a miscarriage?
And I was like so taken aback by that and
was like, oh my god, this is terrible. And then
I believe in that same episode it was followed up
by a woman addicted to pony play.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, even gonna put these things side by side.
But it's a it's a good mix. It's a good
mix all the time. And there's they're so the ones
I didn't I mean, the one of the drink, the drinking,
the urine one just bothered the shit out of me.
It's just like it's like a young couple and they're
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from Jersey. They're like Jersey Shore. They have this nice
house on the water at Jersey Shore. So they they're
like a million dollar house exactly exactly, and it's like
him and his girlfriend just got together and decided that
they were just gonna drink pea and like the family
like sitting around, you know, because they always do it
with like the family's reaction and stuff. And I'm like,
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I'm sorry, if I saw any person drinking pea in
front of me, I think I would throw up. I
just think it's so gross and it's just so dumb,
Like it's just there's there's just absolutely no reason to
do it, as much as you want to be like, oh,
it's so healthy, you're drinking your waist. Like it's just
the dumbest shit I ever heard of my life.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
So in this two season, the trailer so far has
shown a woman who eats raw meat, and in the clip,
I guess they show full out raw hamburger meat and
working to start eating.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Which is which is Listen, the episode I just watched
from last season was a woman, same situation. She just
so happens to be getting a pedicure and she's sitting
there and pulls a roll of toilet paper out of
her person starts eating the toilet paper, and I'm just
like this lady does not do this, Like she doesn't
bring this around like a bag of chips and snacks
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on toilet pap. Wait, this is why they're on the show.
But then why is the raw meat? So this raw
meat girl she pulls out that styrofoam piece that's in
that's at the grocery store with ground beef on it, like,
out of her purse and is getting a pedicure and
starts eating the raw meat. That's it. That did not happen. No,
I agree, I don't think that happened. Well, what is
it that they're like, let's let's film you doing this
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when you're getting a petticure.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
I believe because you could just sle it in your bag.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
It's still not happening, Like she wouldn't. Like even if
you were doing that, you would at least like pull
it out like it was like like a chip and
put it in your mouth, like you wouldn't just pull
out a roll and start munching on it. Come on,
but he's gonna do that. I just I don't all
of these people like that are doing this. And we'll
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we'll talk about this a little bit more in a minute.
But like they know that it's wrong. So it's not
like it's it's not like they're just completely out of
their mind and they're eating this stuff. It's like they're
having they're having a craving for it, but they know
that it's not right, which is why they're on this show,
which is why they're revealing it to people. So like,
you're not just gonna pull out a roll of toilet paper,
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stick your finger through the roll and just be like hey,
like pulling pieces off and like eating it in front
of people, like nonchalantly, like it's not happening. I'm thinking
on YouTube live now maybe in addition to the Caddy five, which,
if you know, you know, we need to start doing
like recaps of like TV or movie or whatever recaps
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and talking about this stuff because I actually think everybody
would like a week by week breakdown of what we
think about these weird episodes. Yeah, seriously, we need to
do like a segment on mothers death, a segment in
the gross room, just like and the cool The cool
thing that I like about the My Strange Addiction Show
is that it's not just people eating weird things. There's
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like all these other weird things going on too, like
sexual things, But my favorite one is the one the
lady that sleeps with her hair dryer, because then I'm like,
oh shit, I have a problem because I like would
do that except I use a space heater, but I
always have it like very close to my leg and
get burns and shit from it. Like I like, I'm
addicted to the feeling of artificial heat. Same with the
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electric blanket.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Over the break, I was finishing up the categories, you know,
and I was on a really old post. I think
it was like an October of twenty twenty in the
Grosser Room where you posted a picture of a guy's
back that had slept with a heating pad for twenty
four hours and like this crazy skin designing out on
his back, and I'm like, this would totally be me.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, And I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that that
guy was paralyzed. That's why he didn't feel that he
was getting burned like that. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
That was a submission from no, that was a submission
for the book where somebody got somebody was paralyzed and
they got burned really bad by heating pad. But yeah,
I was like, I could totally see this being me
because I've been very good about it since I've been pregnant,
but before for it, especially when I had ended Vitriosi's
flare ups, I'd sit on the eating pad twelve hours
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a day.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Hot is setting possible? That could not have been good
for my body at all. Oh, I pack like I
pack an electric blanket with me on my trips. Like
I pulled it out every single night, and I just
can't sleep. It's like it I just need it. So
I understand that. But that's what I'm saying. So there's
there's addictions to like things like that. A guy who
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just like had sex with his car still does he
his and he's talking about his one car had an accident.
Did you see the update with this, dude? I didn't
see the first. He was like having a relationship with
this like red Chevy Lumina or some shit. Yeah, we
it's like a car I had when I was like
a teenager. It's like an eighty nine Chevy Lubiner or something.
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And then he brought it to the shop to get fixed.
It had a name too, I think he called it Chase.
And he has like some of his cars are female,
some of them are male, Like it's really really like
off the rails. Like so this car, he brings it
to the shop and something happened and like the jack
fell and the car like fell off the jack and
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it was destroyed, and and he talks about it as
if it's a dead lover. Like. So then he he
got different cars, and he got like I don't know
if it was a jet ski or something. I don't know,
Like he's got a cop. He's got like one that
he takes out that's like a manly man like tahoe.
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And then he's got the luxury car, which is like
an holding excess. If he has multiple lovers, I don't,
I don't know. And and then it's just it's just
like it's it's on another level. And then of course
you have the people that are eating all of the stuff.
So let's talk about that a little bit. There's a
condition called paika. We talk about it in the gross
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room all the time because there's so many cases of
people that are eating things that are considered non nutritionists
no no nutritional value, and oftentimes it very oftentimes it
has to do with a nutritional deficiency. So if especially
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in women who are have iron deficiency, anemia and stuff.
You've probably seen it on a lower scale with people
like my mother who eat ice all the time. It's
one hundred percent nutritional deficiency. When people sit there and
eat ice all day, it's pike And you could say, well,
you're supposed to be now you're not really supposed like
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it has no nutritional value. It's just it's it's been
linked for sure people who eat ice. But there's other
things that are more outrageous, Like I feel like I
have a low grade a little bit, like I would
sit there and just eat like sprinkles. Well, it's just
like gulls. It's technically a few food.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
So we're like, I'm thinking about the lady on our
six Shocking Stories episode that ate like fish fifty pieces
of silverware, that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, no, that's different. That's different. That's a whole other
different thing when you're eating like a whole entire fleet
of silverware. That's more linked with schizophrenia. And we've had
ingested in a lab for ingested foreign bodies of people
who have severe mental health, like like schizophrenia. They're just
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completely out of their mind and don't even realize that
they're eating. We had this one guy in particular, who
would eat things that looked like it was he was
trying to hurt himself, like broken pieces of glass, knife
tips he would like cut the tips off of knives
and eat them. You can have you could have it
associated with mental illness. For example, a lot of times
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when you hear about like girls that eat their own hair,
and then you could end up getting a beez or
a trichobezor, which is a ball of hair of undigested
hair in your stomach that could cause an obstruction and stuff.
So a lot of these things that people eat can
cause problems. Obstruction which means that your food can't get through,
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and it could cause a perforation, which means that a
part of your bow could burst. It could lead to death,
honestly for things like that. But some of these ones
that we're talking about, like people who eat did you
see the one of the woman I think it was
a woman or a man, I'm not sure. Who ate
their couch cushions. I did like see that there was
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one that ate clay, there was one that ate her
husband's ashes. There's all different kinds of mental things that
could be going on, but they're not schizophrenic, right, but
then the nutritional one is. Another thing that we're going
to talk about right now is this video that Jen
who works with us, sent me, and it is a
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woman who's pregnant who pulls over on the side of
the road and gets this big ass cup of dirt
and like starts chewing on it.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Well, apparently this is really common because you know, I
have this pregnancy app and like every day it.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Gives you like a tip or something.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Right, so three days ago or something, the tip was
something about cravings and how if you're craving really sugary
stuff you should try to substitute it for something healthier, right,
but verbatim, it's a quote. If you find yourself wanting
to eat substances that art food, like clay ashes or
laundry starch, contact your practitioner, Like, this is crazy that
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this is like on the bottom of this little fun
fact sheet.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Well, because because you crave when you crave it, it's
it's the same way. It's hard for people to think
because when you look at this woman pulling over on
the side of the road, looking at this dirt, you're
just like, to me, it just it just sounds like
eating like flour without water, like it's just it's just
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it's dry. It looks dry and ashy, and like you
sit there and you're like, okay, how at anybody? But
usually with pregnant women especially, it's not because they're schizophrenic
or anything like that. It's just it's usually because of
a nutritional deficiency. So that's so reason number one they
want you to tell your doctor is like find out
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what the problem is. Why, because it's not normal to
crave that.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
And then number two, when you eat stuff like clay
that can't be digested or or dirt or things like that,
Like if you eat a little bit of dirt, you
would be fine, but you don't need big clumps of
dirt and rocks stuck inside of your intestines because you're
gonna have a huge problem.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
I guess I just don't understand, because like the way
I feel like cravings are explained is that you have
to have it right then and there.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
You're gonna drop dead type of thing.
Speaker 1 (48:45):
And I just haven't experienced that at all. It's the
number one question. Everybody asked me, what are you craving?
Speaker 2 (48:51):
And I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
I like orange juice more than I usually do.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yeah, but you're like a total fine, you're like a militant.
I've had this manys the fallic hascid today, Like you
know what I mean, Like you're on top of all,
you're eating nutritiously and this is especially in areas of
different areas of the world where people don't have adequate
nutrition and things like that. So it just means that
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you don't have a nutritional deficiency. I guess, well, that's
very nice to hear. Okay.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
So also on social media, this viral claim that you
could scoop out your period, which.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
Is putting doctors in quite the dizzy. Well, I mean,
in theory, if you want to talk about what happens
every month, you have an endomutral lining, which is the
lining of your uterus, and all months it kind of
builds up to make the perfect environment for a growing embryo,
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and if you don't get pregnant, then that lining is
all shed and comes out, which they always are like, oh,
it's like two tablespoons of blood. And no, I don't
know person that bleeds like that, right, So it's it's
like bucket Gallon's buckets of blood. No, it's not. But
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in theory, you could go up because we've gotten so
many uterus specimens in the lab right, and sometimes it's like, oh,
this person was about to have their period, Like you
could scoop it right out. You could, if you had
the uters in front of you, you could scoop it out.
You could do two procedures to do that, which is
one is an endometrial curetage. So they go up dilate
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your cervix, which is an awful, awful feeling, and they
go in with this this like tool that looks like
a spark kind of it's like a spoon with teeth
on it that they could scrape it out. It's curetage, right.
They do this with abortions. They also do this, like
I had it done two different times because I had
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endometrial polyps, so I had to have the procedure under anesthesia,
by the way, because that's how bad it's sucks. So
and I don't really know of any doctor that you
could go to once a month that's going to do that,
and I certainly would hope that nobody would try to
do that to themselves. You could also do It's the
same exact thing you could do with the suction, like
the same with the abortion, right, nobody's going to do
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that to themselves hopefully, and if no doctor's going to
do that hopefully. So in theory, it's you can't really
do it on your own. If you ever introduce anything
into the end of mutual cavity, it's sterile. So you
certainly should not. You should be taking antibiotics after you
get a procedure done. You should never be sticking anything
up inside of your uterus, like by yourself. I think
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if any woman actually tried to do this, they'd be like,
f this, this hurts way too bad, right, So I
don't know exactly what they're talking about. Sometimes you can
get like a glob of like mucissie blood that's stuck
in the cervical aus or the opening, and when like
if you go to the doctor to get a pap smear,
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for example, and you have your period, like they might
use like a syringe to kind of suck that little
bit out of the hole there. But this is just terrible,
Like why is anybody? Why is anybody saying this?
Speaker 1 (52:17):
So I guess in theory you can, but you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Yeah, you just shouldn't. Nobody should ever try to do
something like that. Never.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
People should stop listening to idiots on social media first
of all, because I feel like this is where we
get into problems like this.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
If you when you get a PAP smear, it's and
some women are more sensitive. I feel like I have
the most sensitive cervix ever. Like it's just I hate
the feeling of it. It's just it's gross. That's the
feeling you get when you have contractions, when you have
a baby. It's like, it's just a gross feeling there.
To think that anybody would actually try to introduce something
up there to to stop bleeding. And on top of that,
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you could really scar yourself up there, especially if you
haven't had children yet or something like. It's just don't
ever fiddle with that because you're really going inside of
your body like surgically.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
Yeah, I don't. I think you just gotta let it be.
It's like people try to do all weird stuff to
their vaginas and it's like, just leave it alone. It
doesn't want to be messed with all. Right, now, onto
your questions and emails. First is from Crystal. She said,
at work, I deal with lots of debts and sending
people off to Theme's office. I always thought that an
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autopsy was an autopsy, but we had a very obvious
tragulation homicide. I heard that the initial autopsy didn't show enough,
so they were going to have a forensic autopsy done.
Does that sound right? Or was the person who said
that to me dingis Also I was wondering if each
autopsy is done the same way, like if each person
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has their own groove and always starts at one part
it works systematically through or do you start we're the
most ob trauma is like if someone got shot in
the head, would you start there and work the rest
of the body or do you always start in the
same place.
Speaker 2 (54:07):
This is a very loaded question, Crystal, all right, So first,
if you had someone this is how it should go.
If you had someone come into the hospital and you're
saying it was a very obvious strangulation, which to me
means they came in and were alive and then died.
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So I feel like there should be some kind of
history with that. And if there was a suspected homicide case,
that case should automatically go to a corner or medical
examiner's office for a forensic autopsy. I don't know where
you lived, so things might be different there. If there
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is a chance that the autopsy was done at the hospital,
and then the person doing the autopsy that would be
like someone like me, Like, I'm I it specialized in
hospital autopsy, that's what my training is, so I wouldn't
feel comfortable doing even though I could recognize, like, something's
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not right here. This person looks like they've been strangled,
I don't have the qualifications to say that that has
to be looked at by a forensic pathologist. So there's
been a couple of situations at the hospital where we
will start the autopsy and then we're like, eh, it's
usually a person that died during a procedure or something,
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which is like a weird gray area. And then you'll
call the medical examiner and be like, hey, this person's
got trauma. Do you want to take this case? And
then they'll say yes or no. Sometimes, you know, we
would talk to the medical examiner because sometimes they would
let us do it, like an old guy who fell
and hit his head on the toilet and lived in
the hospital for a week and then he ended up dying,
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Like they would just say there's enough documentation there at
the hospital of his injuries that like, you guys could
do the autops you will sign the desk certificate whatever.
So in that particular case, that's kind of weird because
homicide cases are not done by in thet They're not
supposed to be done in the hospital. But I guess
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that could happen in some world. So I hope that
answers your question. As far as the procedure to doing
an autopsy. No, every everyone does it differently according to
what they like, and a forensic autopsy will be done
a little bit differently for every autopsy. We we I think,
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across the board, for both forensic and normal autopsy. We
will start with an external exam and at that time
we go over normal changes like rigor mortis, lib remortis,
things like that that are associated with death. So we'll
look at that. We'll look at their state of general health.
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Do they look like they you know, this person says
they're forty You know this paper says this person's forty
eight years old. Did they look forty eight years old?
Did they look sixty eight because they live the really
hard life or they're sick or something like that. We
just look for different things like that, are they malnourished,
Are they this or that? And then we look for
evidence of trauma in the hospital, most traumas just going
to be from things that the doctors and nurses did
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to you, like needlesticks and things like that, or just
any kind of medical intervention. But that's where it kind
of differs for forensic ones because they're looking for like
if you're saying this person was strangled, they would be
looking for bruises and stuff outside of the neck at
least on the external exam, or any other indication that
there was some kind of a struggle. So sometimes if
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a person was like manually strangled, for example, like think
about this, like if a guy comes up to you
and starts strangling your neck, you're going to fight back, right,
so you might have like bloody broken fingernails and scratches
and like evidence that there was some kind of a struggle.
But and then when you do the internal exam, it's
kind of the same thing, like we're all looking for
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the same thing, except they in that particular case would
be more trauma focused instead of medical focused, whereas we,
like especially in the teaching hospital, we'll look at people's testicles,
like if a guy had a heart attack, we'll look
at his testicles just for learning purposes, you know, was
anything going on there? We examine everything, whereas like if
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they did an autopsy and saw that a person was
strangled to death, they're not really going to care about
like what that lady's ovaries look like, if she was
like what you know, day of her period she was
supposed to be on, and stuff like that, Like none
of that stuff really matters in forensic cases. But different
places like look at different things more. It just depends
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on their volume and what they want to do. But
in theory, like a forensic autopsy just needs to tell
how the manner and cause of death, whereas in the
hospital a lot of times we're using it for tell.
Speaker 1 (59:01):
So you're saying, like, if you had a case that
had an obvious trauma, you would look at the traumatic
injuries first and then proceed like normal. Because one of
her questions is like, do you start every autopsy the
exact same despite how you thought they died, or do
you approach it differently based on what you know?
Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah, I mean, like so if you if you see
a person got shot, for example, the main goal of
the medical examiner is to Okay, the manner of death
is homicide. I mean it could be whatever, because it
could be homicide, suicide, accident, whatever. I don't know the
exact situation that that person would be in, but you
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want to determine the manner and then you want to
determine the cause. So you're going to the biggest thing
is is that they're going to want to document where
like how many times the person was shot, Where did
the bullet hit, Is there still a bullet left in
the person, what angle did it go in? Did it
was there an entrance room, was they're an exit wound?
Things like that, like what was the final one? Because
(01:00:03):
like sometimes people get shot by two different guns and
the person that did you know, you could shoot two
different people, could shoot one person with two different guns
and one could go through their leg and one could
go through their heart, and the one that went through
their heart is going to get in more trouble than
the one that went through their leg, like you know
what I mean. Like, so there's there's just like all
this different stuff that has to be documented in those cases.
(01:00:27):
So yeah, I mean it's like if you have a
person in front of you that was shot to death,
it seems like it doesn't really matter if they had
like an occlusion in their coronary arteries at that point, right,
It's like that's not but.
Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
You're starting, like the question, like you're starting at the
gunshot wound and then you're working around that just for
like straightforward answer, it's it's just not like you're starting
on the outside of the body and then you're going
inside the body both times, Like Okay, I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Like I don't, I don't don't really know how else
to explain it. It changes for every single body, Like
it's there's no there's no procedure. Really, it's the only
thing that's the same is that everyone starts on the
outside and works their way in. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I think that was like kind of the question though, Yeah,
is everyone approached similarly, but case by case you have Yeah,
I mean even with like there's different kinds of ways
to take out the organs, Like you could literally go
inside a person and take out their organs like you
would a deer that you just shot. You could take
it out from from mouth, takeinus all in one piece,
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or you could take it out organ by organ, or
you could take it out by like I like to
do it like a combination of all that, Like this
comes out together, this stays to stay to you know.
But if a person had surgery, for example, I would
approach it different. If a person died from a certain
thing that I was looking for, I would approach it different.
So it's like it's just like an ever changing thing
(01:01:57):
depending on the circumstances. All right, This next one's from Mariah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Hi there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Just wanted to share a funny story with both of you.
I recently got a friend hooked on listening to your show.
It's been a long time Instagram follower and grocery member.
So my friend is pregnant and she sold some candles
to a girl on Facebook marketplace. They had some sort
of run around meeting up, and my friend mentioned being
pregnant because pregnancy brain made her space on a meetup
(01:02:23):
one day, So this chick friended my friend on Facebook.
That's her only friend, super sketchy profile with no info
aside from a name, no profile picture, a date of birth,
but nothing else. Then she was texting my friend wanting
to go to lunch and be friends. And we are
out here saving lives because my friend realized this is
one hundred percent a future episode of Mother Nosta and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
We're first for I was literally thinking that just I'm sorry,
but it's just it's just weird and I love that
the that the friend is like stalking the other one's
account to be like who is she friends with? What's
her bio look like? All that stuff? And especially I
(01:03:06):
don't you know, I always say I hate Facebook, But
on Facebook, don't you have to say who you are?
It's not like as secretive as Instagram. No, so you
can make a fake, fake Facebook account one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
It's it's as easy as making a fake Instagram account.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
But do people do that? I just feel like as
all the.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Time, don't you know about all these boomers getting like scammed?
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
No? I do, I do, But I didn't think it
was like I feel like it's common on Instagram that
you're on Instagram. It's like your name isn't really your
name's not really your name? You know what I mean?
Like it like it's it doesn't have to be your
first and last name. It could just be like, wait,
some girl, some girl just messaged me and had the
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best one. It was like on Friendly Black Hottie, is
that that was from me? And girls?
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
But like that's that's that's her name. Like, whereas the
people at least all the the people that I'm like
associate with on Facebook or like their first and last
name and it says like who they're married to and
their kids a pennormal person.
Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
But like any I could go on there right now
and make a profile pretending to be you. All I
need is one picture of you and know your name,
so all right, so I wouldn't even associate with anyone
then that had a fake that had a fake account.
Well this is kind of on there, cause it's just
it's just I don't know if I'm explaining myself right,
(01:04:28):
like I feel like on Instagram, it's just like think
about all the people you're friends with on Instagram, like
all of my friends like Kara's names like rule follower, right,
like that's it doesn't say my name's this and that
and I live here and these are my kids and
this is my wife and you know, it doesn't have
all that written out, whereas whereas like on Facebook, it's
more like LinkedIn or something like it's like this is
(01:04:50):
who you are kind of thing. It's just so a
little hold on, let me finish reading this and then
we can talk. So she said she was coming up
with a way to ghost this chick because after she
asked me if she was being too paranoid, I said, no, protect.
Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Clean as the fetus. Oh my god, no.
Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Now she's going to have to move because this chick
knows where she lives.
Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So okay, I think when you're people, I need to
stop selling low budget items on Facebook. The risk is
not worth it, like candles, What are you getting for that?
Like twenty bucks at the most?
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Just I agree, and it's because I've had a couple
shady situations on Facebook marketplace. I used to think Craigslist
was the shadiest place on the Internet, and I actually
think it's Facebook Marketplace. So like I think when sometimes
you list something for sale right, somebody could see your
profile picture and your name, and then when they message you,
(01:05:42):
it's not always super easy to get on their profile.
It's like this weird marketplace interface, Like if you click
on their picture, it'll take you to the listing they're
messaging you about. So it's you have to take more
steps than necessary to investigate the person you're talking to.
I've definitely had instances where I was selling stuff in
(01:06:02):
the city and then they'd want to meet up and
then they suggests like a really weird spot, and I'm like,
I don't feel comfortable with this. And I think there
is this weird market of people that are like weirdly
wanting to attack pregnant people. And there's an episode of
I Survived. I think there's a couple of stories like
this where women went to go buy baby clothes and
(01:06:23):
we're obviously pregnant in their profile pictures and then they
end up getting in really bad scenarios. So I don't
I don't think she has to move, but I understand
the paranoia on your saying, because that is really weird behavior.
Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, and this is like, this is almost like a
Dear Abbey situation. What would you do?
Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I don't know, because you don't like, how do you
end the friendship? Like she's trying to ghost her, but
if you ghost people that ship she was supposed to
buy the candles, but she's saying, there has to be
some kind of relationship if she wants to go, if
she has to go somebody, well, she's saying, because the girl,
(01:07:05):
like you exchange numbers sometimes to orchestra to pick up
and then the girl got her number and now she's
asking her to get lunch and stuff, but like she
won't leave her alone seemingly. I don't know what because
it's like, you, what are you gonna call the cops
over that? It's not like it's not cop territory, but
like I know they're not gonna do anything. But this
(01:07:27):
is the fine line of problems that so many people have.
It's like not bad enough to call the cops, but
then once it gets there, you're murdered. Like where's who's
the in between person to talk to? Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I when I read this email, it was like Kismet
timing because we are getting rid of a bunch of
like furniture in the house to try to start getting
stuff ready for the baby, right, and we have like
a couple piece of furniture the I'm like, I don't
even need to sell, but I don't want to like
throw them out. I just want to make sure somebody
like gets something right. So I was gonna put like
a free pick up in this general area, but then
(01:08:03):
I'm like my profile picture, I'm holding my ultrasounded.
Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
I don't think that's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
It starts firing and I'm definitely a crazy paranoid person,
but I think we.
Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Need to stop selling on Facebook. Marketplace, Yeah, especially like
your bras well, that's your mother, So I think you
guys made the right decation. Marketplace is awesome. It's awesome though,
Like especially you could get a lot of people like
we'll ship you stuff, or if you're trying to find
something weird, like I was trying to find a ballerina
(01:08:35):
for my Christmas display outside, which I found, but it
was all the way in New York and I wasn't
gonna drive out there. But I'm like, this is kind
of cool that, like the thing I'm looking for is here,
and I could. I mean, it sucks that you because,
like honest people, it's it's an awesome tool. Yeah, but
then there's freaks on there. Yeah, I mean I would.
I would absolutely, I mean you could block, you could
(01:08:58):
block them. But now she knows where she lives, I
don't know, Like I mean, if she shows up to
her house under any circumstance, she should call the police
and get a restraining order against this person. I'd say
document everything. Go on your Facebook. Screenshot all the messages
and the profile screenshot, the text messages with the phone number,
(01:09:18):
keep them in a secret folder that this listener that
wrote in your friend knows about.
Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
And if God forbid anything happens, at least you have
all the evidence backing you up.
Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Because we need to talk to like one of our
cop friends about this, Like what what is their advice?
Because I know they can't do what are they going
to do? It's just like that fine that gray area
of the like inaprol And sometimes people just don't understand
normal social cues that like you don't do that, Like
(01:09:52):
maybe she genuinely just wants to have a friend and
like thought that they had good conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Well, this reminds me of when my door dashed driver
messaged me on the app and was like, I need
you to leave me cash. I don't have gas money,
and I'm like, of course, it's a night, I'm home alone,
it's dark outside, and like yeah, like people.
Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Just don't realize what's inappropriate. You know, you're just kind
of like e that you probably shouldn't do that, but
like maybe maybe the whole thing is just you know,
we just have true crime on the brain all the time,
Like it could be totally innocent, exactly, and I think
that's our problem because every time I hear of these
situations or I'm like explaining that, like I'm explaining the
(01:10:31):
door dash situation to somebody right and they're just like,
you're crazy, and I'm like, I'm not crazy. Do you
understand the stories we cover every single decree? I thought
everyone was a pedophile from the time she was like twelve. Yeah,
every most of them are. You should always be on
pedal look up.
Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
I think the step she need to take is documenting
the entire interaction. Block their number, block their Facebook, and
hope they don't show up to your house.
Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
And if they do, you might need to make call
the po PO.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
But I think people need to exercise some caution because
it is a complete stranger come in to your house.
Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
So like, think about this.
Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
Would you just go to the mall and make eye
contact with somebody and say, come to my house?
Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Like I personally think if you like you're saying with
your furniture, if you put it out on the curb
and you just said hi, I just put a bunch
of stuff on the curb and it's free and the
person's not coming to your front door or anything, like
I understand they could look at your profile and stuff,
but like I feel like that's probably okay because they're
(01:11:37):
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I just have to.
It's the interact, Like you really shouldn't have to have
an interaction with the person if you if you don't
want to.
Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I have one particular scary interaction where I did. I
do like porch pickup, which is I'll put the item
on my porch or my driveway and then just be
like leave the cash like in my mailbox or venome
or whatever. Right, And then one time I did that,
it was like they didn't come, Like they're supposed to
come about three o'clock in the afternoon. They didn't come
till eight o'clock at night.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Ricky was at.
Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
Home, and then they were knocking on my door and
I'm like, why are you knocking on my door? Like
this was already orchestrated because I was out there.
Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, I mean, you have strangers come over all the
time for like deliveries and door dash and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
So it's like, I don't know, I totally feel you though,
I think you made I think you just need to
block all right. Last, Maria, what is your Goodreads account?
Can we follow guys. I'm really sorry, but I'm never
making a public I'm embarrassed by my choices.
Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
And I can't. I can't do it. I just can't
do it. Really been thinking about that. All I want
to let you guys know is that she she just
bought a book for our employee Jen for Christmas and
it is a romance novel involving She's shape shifters. Listen.
(01:12:55):
I posted my top five books.
Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Of the year on my Instagram story on New Year's
Eve and I will continue to do that and recommend
them on the show or YouTube or whatever as I
go along. But I can watch somebody find your account
and like, AlCH you well.
Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Private.
Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Even one of my husband's friends was like can I
follow you? And I was like no, like literally nobody.
I can't have it and I only use it for
tracking purposes for myself. So I'm sorry. I admittedly read
terrible smart books, and I don't want everybody to know
my business.
Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Like that's I will share. This is like this is
like the good Reads version of an Internet porn history
or something. It might be worse because of some of
not even because of the romance books, because you're because
you're like reading romances about people sticking Gouda in their
I didn't read that.
Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
When FYI went to the store and to what's the
most ridiculous book you sell here? And that is what
the women that own the store directed me too. No,
but I like I read a lot of health help books,
like I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Want people my business. I just don't. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Like I'm reading a book about multi level marketing right now.
Is that interesting to everybody? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
So well, Gabe and I just listened to Mary Shelley's
Frankenstein and it was it was amazing. I did read
it in when I was younger, but it was good
to listen to again. It's so dramatic and now like
we're just like doing the monster's voice for like our kids,
and it's just great.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
That is a good book. My number one book of
last year was Anderson Scooper Anderson Cooper's Vanderbilt Book, and
then I.
Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Followed it up with another list.
Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
Maybe I'll make a highlight on my Instagram so you
guys could all revisit it. But that's all I'm gonna
say on that. All right, thank you guys so much.
We hope you're having a great new year so far.
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Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Bye guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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