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July 22, 2026 13 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Put your hands together and we're going to start and
part in.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm ready to party.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
The Elvista ran after party.

Speaker 4 (00:10):
So starting dinner and family. One of the leaders of
the education yeah, I mean way up there.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, like the dean of.

Speaker 5 (00:20):
The University of whatever. Yes, he said something very very
very enlightening. We brought it up in conversation earlier. I
want to spread it around the room.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, he was talking about how over the time that
he has been a dean and he's been in academia,
he has seen such a marked difference in students in
their behavior and their posture and anxiety and everything that's happening.
And he asked me, why, what do you think that is.
So we started having a conversation about what has changed
that's you know, adding to all of this, and of
course the world is different. But then it came down

(00:50):
to this article that I read recently that said, this
is going to be the first generation gen Z that
will have more memories of other people's lives than of
their own, and that has got to be something that
is in a lot of ways devastating and really unfulfilling.
And I think that that's a big part of where
it all comes from.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Look, you know, if you're sitting there doom scrolling. And
this is not just not just gen Z but all
of us. You spend so much time in your day scrolling,
scrolling whatever through your phote.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You're not living your life. You're looking at other people
living their lives.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
You're you're building more memories about other people's things, going
on strangers photos and posts.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Then you are making your own memories.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
You're not experiencing.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
So how brilliant, I mean, how more real could it be?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I think it's so terrifying in a lot of ways.
And it's also so weird how within all of this,
the amount of people who are not doing anything, which
we've touched on this before, who are not doing something,
but take every chance they can to bring down the
people who are trying to do something. It's just a
wild world. And a big part of it that we
were also discussing was so many people of these generations

(02:01):
gen Z and Jenofa are afraid to go out and
try things because of that, because they don't want to
be mocked. They don't want to become a meme or
go viral, and a video of them failing at something
that that is scarier than just never trying. And I
just can't imagine what that's got to be.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
Like, let's take it to posting what people are posting,
what you're posting and why? Okay, what kind of poster
are you? Do you post photos of your experiences because
you're showing the world how much fun you're having, or
you're trying to enlighten people to go do the fun
things you're doing, or what are other examples?

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Some of them are it's just your personal diary. You
don't really care what other people are doing. Do you
seek validation and that's why you're posting?

Speaker 7 (02:43):
There?

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Are you know, different types of posters? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, what's your intention behind your posts? Scary?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Most of my.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Posts are because of the ladder of what you said, Elvis,
and that is being able to show people here's something
cool going on and I wish you were here with
me and I want you to maybe experience this too.
And I do that through a lot of the times.
I go to a restaurant and I'm posting the food,
here's the meat loaf, yet here's you gotta try it?

(03:10):
Like like like Nate and I went to a restaurant
the other day and there was kabasi on the menu?
Kabasa a big fat sausage on a plate. We questioned ourselves,
when have you ever seen a cabasa.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
On a restaurant menu?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Never?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
So I thought it was important to showcase that.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm like, look, guys, you can get kabasa at this restaurant.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
You know you know? Okay, question why why oh why
are you doing that?

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Because again, I want people to experience that as well.
Like the night that I went to a stopool my
followers when I went to go see Ariana Grande.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Okay, yeah, okay, we'll get to Ariana Grande and concerts.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Concerts is a great example.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
But why do you immediately an hour later go back
and see how many people are liking it?

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Then takes a few hours later you admitted.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
To us that you have posted things before that got
no response and you took it off your feed.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, because if they find it boring, they if people
my followers find it boring.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Do you see what I'm trying to Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (04:13):
But because I'm a people pleaser, and if you're not
being these people, not my followers, you don't know them, the.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Listeners scary just because they haven't responded doesn't mean somebody
is not pleased not liking It's not the same as
the thumb is down the way I picture you picturing it.
And I could be totally wrong about this. Is that
if you get a hundred likes in your head, the
other one hundred thousand of your followers are talking to
each other about how lame your post was. And that's
not what's happening at all. Sometimes people just don't see it.

(04:39):
Sometimes they don't care, they scroll by. Sometimes they just
enjoy the content. They forget to like it, like there's
a lot of stuff that goes into it, versus internalizing
it like it was trash.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
So okay, so I'm being hard on myself, is what
you're saying by taking it down. Yeah, but that's not
the purpose of the posh Enough was that there's a
big fat cobosity on a plate and I want to share.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
It with the world. You understand.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
But with the idea we understood.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
With the Idana concert, I happened to have had a
great view. Now, if I was just a braggart, I
would just say all about the Iriana concert and post
any old thing.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
But the fact that I had an amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
View I'm like, that's what you had to about. I
want to know.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I want to bring her to you.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Did you show video? Did you show video of her performing? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
How many times do you go to someone's posts and go,
oh my god, here's a video of Ariana Grande, Ariana
Grande performing.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I'm gonna sit here and watch that. Do you watch that?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Do you want to the fireworks on July fifth?

Speaker 2 (05:41):
On people's No, those.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Are all for us. We waste so much time trying
to document it.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
But going back to the original part of this conversation,
what memories of our own experiences are we posting in
our heads and going back to versus other people's memories,
other people's experiences, we're missing out on life by.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
By just living in this world online. We're connected to
these phones.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
It's like a cord.

Speaker 6 (06:06):
I gotta say that's one of the things I love
about live theater, in going into a place where you're
not allowed to bring your phone, like and there's a
couple of places I went recently where they make you
put like a sticker on the back of your.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
They're forcing you to create a memory because.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
You are there. You're just in the experience.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
It's all in your head. You have to remember what
you you're feeling and what you see and everything, and
it's totally different. I feel like you walk away totally
different from that than you know, going to a concert memory.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
That's so Are you an enabler by posting all these
stories for so so other people can look at those
memories and they're not living their own life?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Are you part of the problem for doing that?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't look at it as you being an enabler,
but I do look at it as you being less
present in the actual moment because you're so focused on
recording it to then post for other people to see
that you did it instead of just doing it, just
enjoying it.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
So when you're okay, question to that point, Nate, When
you were having dinner with Scary the other night and
the big fat came to the table, do you think
do you think did he enjoy the taste of that
big sausage as much?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
He did?

Speaker 7 (07:14):
It was actually a very good.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
And to be fair, you don't really see kill bossa on.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
But I make a kill.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
I didn't begrudge him like he wanted to post that
because that's part of his But for me. If I
didn't do what I do, I probably wouldn't have social media,
and so exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
We talked about this too.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Yeah, so ironically I saw this as a post on Instagram,
but I think it encapsulates what we're talking about perfectly.
It was the actor from The Night Agent, I can't
remember his name, good looking guy. He was doing a
talk show and he stopped Instagram, he stopped social media,
and whoever was the talk show host? He goes, well,

(08:01):
I was on my feed and I was scrolling and
I saw somebody posted a picture from the top of
Mount Everest, And at that moment, I decided I'm done
with social media. Because Gabrielle Bosso and he said, the
reason I did that was because I don't deserve to
see that. I didn't climb to the top of that mountain.

(08:23):
I didn't experience that. Why should I see what this
other person experienced. I should go out there and do
something like that myself and not live through other people.
So in that moment, he decided, I'm done with social media.
I'm tired of living through other people. But what if
it creates inspiration for you to go do that. The
fact that he saw the other side of the coin.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Well, that's why they pay social media people influencers, because
you go experience it and then you post it and
your followers will say, wow, that looks so cool.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I want to do that, right, Okay?

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Question, And this is what Gandhi and I were talking
about before the show. If you left this job that
scary where you're posting to your listeners, you weren't doing
this anymore, you had no listeners, listeners were done.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Would you still be posting?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Probably not. I talk about this all the time with
my friend.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Would you still even have an account?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I find it nerve wracking and tiring to want it
to keep up with it, because I'm okay, if.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
You find it tiring, in nerve wracking, how much of
your life is it depleting?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Probably? What is it?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
What's you're taking away.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
From more than I care to admit because all my
none of my friends, I will never know. We won't
know that because a lot of my friends, I'm the
only one of my group that really posts. And then
people like, well you have to post because you do
what you do for a living. And I said, you
know what, I wouldn't post half as much if I
was If I wasn't in the situation, in the position
that I'm in.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
And you're what you do for a living, what does
it have to do with a big fat sausage on
a tableage? I'm serious, though, what how does that enhance
the listener experience knowing that you ate a big fat
sausage last night?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Because I'm because by by nature, I want, I want
to show people great things.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I feel like i'd be a tour guy.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
People if I wasn't doing people.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Whoever my audience is at that given time. It could
be my friends, it could be the.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
People you So, to answer to your question, answered to
my question, you would still post big fat sausages if
you did not do this for a living, not as often.

Speaker 4 (10:24):
But you just said I would.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I would. You're right, I would. I would. Guilty as charged.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
But you know, give me a platform, any platform, and
I want to showcase cool things.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
That's all see.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I think it's all just it's kind of a I
don't know if paradox is the right word, but it
behooves me and serves me to post. I don't think
it serves me to consume other people's posts. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
That's selfish?

Speaker 3 (10:48):
So you want your I want everyone to look at me,
and I don't want to look at anyone.

Speaker 7 (10:52):
Yes, so you want your cake, but you want to
not be able to eat it.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I'm trying to think of that analogy.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
You post your cake and want to eat it too.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yes, yes, you.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Want everybody to look at you, but you don't want
to look at them.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yes, that is what I said.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I literally just said, your cheff, but you're not eating
your own food.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Kind of. Well, here's the thing, right, I think that
consuming other people's content all day long it can make
you feel bad about yourself. You will sit there and
think about all the things that they're doing that you're
not doing, like this guy who was upset about being
in his chair and looking at someone else on the
top of Mount Everest. So it can have this effect
on you that's not good. But it does serve me
to post things because that's how I get things in

(11:30):
life as well. So I want other people to look
at my stuff, but I just don't.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Okay, look at the stuff you post though.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
I see you swimming in lagoons, I see you on
the swimming with dolphins.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I'll see you climbing mountains.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
And doing things those are experiences that you're going to
remember for sure. You looking at other people's experiences online
would take away the time you had to go do
those things.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Absolutely So you didn't see my big fat sausage.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I didn't see your stupid sausage.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Damn it.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Now I'm not gonna go look. I wanted to go
look them gonna go look.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Well, so someone in the room said, well, if I
post photos of me skiing down on the slopes of
the Alps, that may inspire them to go do it
well and by now inspired to go eat a big
fat sausage.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
You might it might have made you hungry. Sausage looks good,
You might say, what restaurant was that? Because I want
to try that sauce.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
Daniel Daniels, would you ether follow someone's lead and ski
the Alps or follow someone's lead to eat a sausage?

Speaker 6 (12:31):
You know, it really depends on how much time I
have on my head, but a sausage is pretty simple.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
I don't know what's your reason for posting when you post,
because you're sometimes you will go for a very long time.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
I don't post a lot. And as a matter of fact,
we were talking about this, I went I'm like, let
me look at my post. I didn't really see anything
that interesting in there. It was basically more of a
checklist of a journal.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
It's it's a journal of.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
What I've done.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I think is a digital diary too.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah, for sure, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I don't know. This is all crazy.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
So but keep in mind, going back to the beginning
of this conversation one more time, what memories are we
not finding time to create for ourselves because we're too
busy scrolling on our phones looking at other people's memories
they're creating.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Now, I'm sad. I'm gonna eat a sausage and you
go ski the albums

Speaker 3 (13:37):
After party.

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