On today’s MKD, we start the week discussing a doctor arrested for transmitting child sexual abuse material, a switched-at-birth lawsuit, a nurse who tried to steal a newborn, a groom who sexually assaulted a guest on his wedding night, and an emergency room wedding.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria QK.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
On today's episode, we have a few disturbing stories involving
the medical world, including a doctor who was not only
distributing child sexual abuse material but also creating it. We'll
get into exactly what he was doing and some tips
on how to protect your kids. Then we'll get into
a story involving a man who claims he was switched
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at birth and a nurse's aide who tried to kidnap
a baby at a hospital. Then we'll talk about two
separate couples that had very untraditional wedding nights. We'll finish
up with your comments, questions, and emails. All that and
more on today's episode. This story is so disturbing on
so many levels with this doctor, well it is on.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Many levels if this was a normal person, but especially
because it was a doctor. So this doctor is facing
forty seven charges of child pornography after an investigation revealed
he used AI to remove the clothes from real photos
of young girls and bikinis, and he also had images
of one woman that he knew.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So I guess it started off that he had an
account on this kick have you heard of it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's like I think we've talked about it before with
roadblocks issues, where like predators are taking kids off roadblocks
and having them go on discord or kick to further communications.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, like I just think it's I don't really understand
the point of any adults being even on a thing
like that. But but regardless, like, okay, so he's on
this thing called Kick, Like it's just weird whenever you
hear of a grown adult being on something like that,
because think about all of the grown adults that you
talk to that are around forty to fifty years old.
(01:59):
They're all on Instagram or x or Facebook and maybe
TikTok and maybe read it and maybe read it like
all these other ones like Lemonade and all these like
little kid ones Snapchat. Like most people our age are
just like not on that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
This is gonna be controversial, but I'm sorry, Like I
will stand by this. If you were over like twenty
two years old and on Snapchat, you're up to no good.
I'm sorry, Like, there's just no reason it is four
teenagers and young adults.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, so that I mean that's when you just talk
to everyone. So then if you're talking to another random
adult and they say that they're on one of these
like ones that kids are typically on. I just feel
like it's it's off. So he was on there and
someone had an anonymous like a cyber tip that they
saw a twenty five second video of a nude pre
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pubescent girl, and not only did the video show this girl,
but there were like thumbnails next to it as well.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So additional, I like, I don't know if you saw
the other article really breaking down the specifics of guy.
I was like feeling so sick to my stomach reading it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so he works at or did, because I can't
imagine he's going to get his job back University of
Florida was a kidney specialist and an assistant professor, so
forty years old. I don't know that he was necessarily
seeing like children as patients, which it doesn't matter regardless.
I the thing that I want to take away from
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this and I wanted to talk about on this specific
episode was what you said earlier that he was taking
pictures off the internet of kids that are thirteen and
fourteen years old wearing bikinis and then taking their clothes
off and making them naked, and like with AI And
the reason that I want to talk to you guys
about this is because I see pictures, including my friends
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post things of their children in bikinis in like Leotard's
things like that they're barely wearing any clothes all the time,
And I just don't understand why people do it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Understand that either, And I don't understand why people post
pictures of kids in the bath like you can think
we're crazy all you want, Like there are many people
out there using these images to do horrible things like
this guy is like, and I wonder if the if
they're able even to figure out where he gets these
pictures of these children, and if their parents are told
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about it, or if they could even figure out who
the children are. Like for example, we had a Fourth
of July party and Byron took up like a really
awesome picture of all the kids and June was wearing
her bathing suit like you could see it, and I
was gonna post it on Instagram just because like it
was a cute picture. And then I'm like, no, I'm
not gonna post a picture because one of the teenagers
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is wearing a bathing suit. Like it's just like a
rule I have I'm just not going to do it
because I know that there's creeps like this that look
at that, and like there's not enough talked about just
this in general, and certain things like I was saying
the dance recital, how I thought it was way too
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sexual for children, Like you just don't know who's in
the audience. You don't know most of the people are
dads that are just kind of there, and then you
just don't know, especially when people could buy tickets that
might not even know anybody that's in the show. Yeah,
but that's not to say that even the dead in
the crowd is not a tool create It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If you think about how many sex offenders are in
the general population and then put together four hundred people
in a room, I guarantee you one of them is
at least like on the edge there, and it's just why,
like why take the chance. I know that it's very
hard to put your mind in that situation because you
look at a kid in a bathing suit and you're
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just like, yeah, that's just my kid in a bathing suit.
She's just having fun. But like these people go out
of their way to look for that, Like it's the
same as like when when teenage boys first start masturbating
and they looked at the J. C. Penny catalog at
women in underwear and broth like it's enough to get
them off, you know what I mean, It doesn't. It
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might not seem sexual to you, but to them it is.
And now they have the technology to take their clothes off.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, And it's just like putting an emoji over like
if your kids in the bath, putting an emoji over
their genitals is like nobody's asking you or putting a
gun to your head to post a picture of your
kid in the bath. Just stop doing it. It's just
not necessary to have. And it's like there's a lot
of conversations like I feel like people need to have
social media training of sorts. It's like, when you buy
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a house, you should not post a picture of the
front of your house on social media.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Everybody does it with the addressed and everything.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
All you have to do is google the number and
the town and you could find the listing or you
can just screenshot their picture and reverse image search it
and find the house. Like it's seriously that easy. And
it's the same with kids. People can use this technology,
which allegedly the safeguards in place, so this doesn't happen.
But we know that's not happening everywhere clearly that they
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can do these things with pictures or it's just enough
that they're attracted to it, so it's just like totally
not necessary.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I feel like even with the baby, like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I've had to have conversations with some people in the
family and be like if I send a picture in
the family group chat of him, like you know, I
sent a picture of him like without his one zeon,
laying in his lounger looking all cute and his diaper, Like,
please do not post this on the internet. I don't.
I don't want these pictures online.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Like yeah, it's like it's it's hard. It's hard to avoid.
It's just hard to avoid in general. But but yeah,
like I mean it's hard to avoid as far as
as just like everybody taking pictures parties things like that.
But because I think it's a little because I do
know people that are on the complete opposite end that
are just like they don't want a picture of their
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child on the internet at all, which I just think
is not realistic at this point. You know, I don't
really it's the same at the kids' school, Like, it's
just very hard to not get your kid's picture on
the internet, just because of all of the different situations
the child's and growing up, and you know, there's very
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innocent things like softball teams and stuff just want to
post the picture of the kids winning, and like you
just it's it's very hard to not have your child
on the internet like that, and and realistically, if they're
on there once in their entire life, it's over, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But I think the rule of thumb in general with family.
I know it's hard because they go to school and
the school takes picture and stuff, But I think with families,
a general rule of thumb should be, like if the
parents haven't posted the picture, you should not be posting
the picture because like a lot of older people in particular,
I don't know if I said this on here or
YouTube live, but I know somebody recently came up on
my Facebook. They were tagged in a picture of their
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baby and their aunt like posted a picture of their
kids genitals like fully out and like it's a newborn,
but like still that dead picture should not be on
the internet. I should not have seen it. But like
a lot of people don't understand that everything they post
every single person can see.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And kids kids are like it's weird because they're just
growing up in a different time than us. Like I
was joking with one of my friends recently that I
might have I'm serious, that I might have twenty pictures
of myself when I was a child up until the
age of like fifteen years old. I mean, like at all,
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at all, Like I'm serious. Like there's a box downstairs,
and there's there's a couple like floating around because back
then it was just like my mom had a camera.
Then it was like the big with the disposable camera thing.
Half of them never got developed. Even if they did,
it was like, you know, if you just have like
a person that just she wasn't really into a camera,
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she had it. Sometimes there's a couple of pictures. There's
probably more professional pictures of like her taking us to
this freaking terrible place called Olin Mills when we were
a kid that we had to go sit at all
day and take all these corny pictures wa and like
it's like me and my sister and brother's face like
all together like stacked and stuff. It's so terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Side note, In Cheryl's book, she was talking about that
place Glamour shot to remember.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh yeah, in the mall.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's like if you if you guys live in
this area, it's like where the pack sun is now
in the Deafered Mall. I like vividly remember that place
being there. It's a little kid, yeah, and they would
like do your hair.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But like, but that's like all that was all you
had of documentation, so anything. And still even those few
pictures that I have, I'm just kind of like, oh
my god, my hair was so terrible. Oh my God,
Like thank God, Like I am in control of these pictures.
They're not just like on the internet for everyone to see.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, your family didn't take the most disgusting picture
of you at thirteen years old on a raft that
then they distributed amongst the family to make fun of
you and for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That really it really wasn't that bad. You need to relax.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, anyway, I mean this is super dark. This guy
was married, so they said that his wife was in
India from January through March of twenty twenty six, which
is a period that overlapped with many of his messages
on the kick site, and then reportedly communications where he
was talking about doing something called age play, which is
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defined as a form of role play when consenting adults
act out roles of different ages, typically with one person
acting as a child, infant, or younger persona and the
other as a caregiver. It's a consensual activity used for
emotional regulation, coping with stress, or as sexual BDSM kink.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So they had found communications where he was doing this
age play with a seventeen well she's nineteen years old now,
but she had been seventeen when they started talking, and
then there was really dark shit about like involving her
younger sister and stuff like I'm telling you, this really
got dark. Like I don't even want to repeat half
the stuff I read. It's like two, it's too dark.
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You just can't go there. I like wish I could
have raised my mind when I read it well.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And like and honestly, this is exactly what I was
thinking when I was reading this. Because we always talk
about like terrible shit that first responders and cops see.
We're gonna talk about that actually on YouTube Live this
week because I have a video of like police cam
footage of like a cop walking into a scene and
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like throwing up and stuff like it's it's really raw,
and like you could you could see how disturbing it
is to be in those situations. Sometimes there's some investigator
that had to look at pictures of thirteen year old
children that were ai altered to make them look naked,
and like these investigators have children of their own and stuff,
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and just like imagine not only how upsetting it is,
but how pissed off these people get that they probably
want to beat the shit out of these guys.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like, I mean, I feel like when I read Paul
Hole's book, he talked about just how much of I've
told this kid take on your family life seeing these
horrible things.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
All the time. Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean they're normal people too, Like they obviously have
a tough exterior, but like it doesn't make you it
doesn't make it easier to process all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, And like when you're when you're not a child
sex predator, like seeing stuff like that bothers the shit
out of you, you know, and like of you you
know that from reading this stuff, Like I like sometimes,
just like what you said, I read some stuff and
I'm like okay, Like because with crimes and stuff, I'm
like I always want to know, like all the dirty
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details down to the second. But when it comes to kids,
I even said this with my forensic textbooks and stuff,
like I don't want to I don't want to see
it and I don't want to know, Like it just
upsets me so bad.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, definitely not. I think about that a lot with
like domestic violence cases with child abuse. Think it's just
like you see the most awful things that could possibly happen,
all right. Two families are suing in North Dakota hospital
claiming their children were switched at bird after this thirty
six year old man took a DNA test and discovered
his parents were not biologically related to him.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So he took the test because it was given to
him for a Christmas present. It wasn't even like he was.
There was no suspicion at all his whole entire.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Life, although he did say something he felt like he
didn't belong sometimes, but I don't say so.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Does everybody, come on, I still don't belong? Maybe I
should take one and unfortunately mine was positive for my
own family.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, actually, actually nothing came up on her side except
the Polish heritage I suppose, but the family actually came
up on pop up side. But yeah, I mean, and listen,
I want you guys to write in if anybody has
either had a personal experience or knows somebody that this
happened to, because we hear about this quite often that
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people take I mean usually it's a person takes it
and then it's like their dad's not really their dad.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But could you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Imagine the shock of taking a test like this and
your parents not being your parents, and then people that
are coming up as first to so, like when I
did mine, for example, my my aunt, my dad's sister,
my aunt Evely and her son came up as a
first degree relative for me, right, So could you imagine
taking that and some like Rando coming up and you
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being like, who the hell is that? I don't even
have any cousins, you know?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, yeah, so I guess what happened in this case
is he took it and then they weren't his biological parents,
and then the aunt he believed was biologically related to
him then submitted her sample and a nephew came up
for her. But he doesn't have any cousins, so like
like that he knew or something happened, Like yeah, no,
that's so I'm getting confused by no, it is.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's really confusing. So so somehow, I mean, I guess
it's easy when you have first and last names that
come up. It's easy to find people now with Facebook
and things like that. So it turns out that they
were both born on the same exact day in the
same exac hospital and they were the only two children
that were born that day.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So it seems crazy. But the hospital I gave birth
that I is like probably only one of a handful
that day. It's not like there was like twenty five
people given birth that day.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So obviously, like they're so it's good because both of
both of the guys how old. They're thirty something right,
I feel.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Like they're nineteen eighty eight, so January nineteen eighty eight, so.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They're like almost forty, right, they they are like they've
they've each met their biological parents. Now the boys have
not met each other, but they have talked to each
other on the phone, and they still both say like
the family that raised them is their parents and stuff. However,
this is like a turning two families completely upside down year.
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I mean like that, this is how old Louis was
born in eighty seven, That's how old my brother is.
I just could you just imagine, like this far into
your life, getting news like that and finding out all
of this, And and this.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Guy was saying he had an older brother he didn't
even know about. I guess that family owned a farm
and they all work on the farm. So he's like,
I don't even know how different my life would be.
And so he took their test when he was thirty six,
and now they're thirty eight. So it's like it took
two whole years for this to unravel.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So this is the part that's really pissing me off
about it though. So they're trying to sue the hospital
for negligence, medical mail practice, and emotional distress, which they
should one hundred percent, and the hospital is is like
they're denying it. They're like they're saying there's no evidence
to prove this. What evidence do you need? Like they're
saying all the records.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Are gone, yeah, and it's like, oh, well, it's been
four decades. What do you want to see?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All the records are gone, nobody works there anymore, And
it's just like, what this is the evidence right here?
The DNA test, Like I can't even imagine unless like
the moms agreed to switch the babies in the hospital,
which one hundred percent didn't happen, it has to be
their fault, like.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It has to be because he this guy also made
sure to say we didn't even grow up near each other.
It's not like it could have happened anywhere else, Like
we weren't. It's not like we were like going to
take care, yeah exactly. And I think I think that
the one the guy still has like his hospital bracelet,
one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Like they have a yeah exactly like that. It is
exactly like they said, that's enough proof right there, because
most people do like I feel like with the girls,
we saved them, So I don't know where the hell
they're at. They're somewhere in this house, but like you know,
you you saved the card from the bed like stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, I don't know if this is pertaining to an
incident that occurred that we covered last year. But when
I when I just gave birth, like the baby had
a bracelet that said Cane Boy Maria, and then I
had a bracelet that said my name, Ricky had a
bracelet that said my name, And every time they did
shift change, they checked all the bracelets to make sure they.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Were I don't think that that's new, honestly, But like, how.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Did they those babies last year, don't I don't know,
I don't It's possible that they were switched and they
had the correct bracelets on and like they just didn't
look at the brains.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Because here, that's what I think happened. I don't think
it was and I think because that happened around us,
and I think at that particular hospital, which is the
worst place on earth, by the way, I've said that
multiple times. They they're supposed to like scan the bracelets, scan,
you know, you're supposed to scan all of them. And
something happened there. But when that lady was breastfeeding the
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wrong kid, like I think that that kid was labeled
wasn't labeled incorrectly it was just like handed off incorrectly
kind of because like if someone hands you a kid
and your postpartum, you know how that feels. You just
went through it, like are you looking at their bracelet
to see it's them?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, but the nurse is supposed to be checking their
bracelet that she didn't sing that thing. Yeah, and it
was like that didn't do it. Yeah, So that's what
I didn't understand about it. I mean, you want to think, like,
you know what your kid looks like, but I didn't
really realize until after I got home, and then I
started seeing a bunch of Instagram and tiktoks about newborns
and I'm like, no, all newborns kind of look exactly
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the same. It's like really crazy, actually not exactly, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Don't I don't think. I saw two Instagram videos where
I was like, if you.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Told me that was my baby, I'd say, it does
look just like my Oh my god, I'm just saying.
But when they're right fresh out, like I don't know
now that he's like developing his actual face, it's different.
But the first week for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. And also Gabe showed me a picture yesterday and
he's just like because you send him more pictures than
you send me.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
By the way, I sent you the same pictures.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And she said, he's like, this is Maria's face one
hundred percent. He's like, this kid is Maria. And I
was like, yeah, funny.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Because like we wait, we wait to see Ricky's family
down the shore on Sunday, and everybody was like, he
looks just like Maria. And then when I went to
MoMA's house yesterday, everybody there was like, he looks like
Ricky today. It's so funny. I mean, I think he
just looks like both of us.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah he does.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't know, but okay, I'm just saying I can
see it all right. Speaking of another thing that should
never happen at a hospital, a nurse technician pretended she
was pregnant then tried to steal a newborn from the hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
This is giving like maternal instinct vibes. It's all the same.
It's like the same exact thing. At least she didn't
go all the way with it like the other lady did.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But well, remember in maternal instinct that her like Obgi
in practice alerted. I think the hospital they thought she
was gonna pretend to give birth at that she might
steal the baby. Oh yeah, there was a whole larc
system anyway. In this case, this happened in Brazil. This
woman was also pretending she was pregnant. They said when
they went to her house, like there was a full
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blown nursery and everything in her family thought she was pregnant.
So she was not on shift at the time this happened.
She went up to the aunt of a newborn and
said she was on shift and she was taking the
baby to get testing done. So then the aunt saw
her go in a room on the maternity floor and
then when she came back, the baby wasn't there and
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she had this huge bag. And then the lady so
then she goes in the bathroom and the ant like
at some point catches up with her and looks in
the bag and sees the baby in the bag, and
it's like, what the hell, you know, and this.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is crazy shit happens in Brazil. Some of the craziest
stories that we've had this year, including like that lady
that brought her dead uncle to the bank, like all
that shit. It's just like it's always in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean, that video is resurfacing again to the
lady that that uncle to the bank anyway. I mean, yeah,
like this is insane. They caught the entire thing on
CCTV in the hospital. They could see the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Waits, did you see the video?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I didn't see the video, but they kept referencing that
they could see the entire thing go down, like her
go up to the family, go in the bathroom, put
the baby in the bag, Like what do you think?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Does she not work there? And understand how cameras were Like, dude.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I even though we are living in a constant surveillance state,
I think people aren't thinking about it. It's well, yeah,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
A little bit different, like if you work there, right,
But I mean you could argue that she's not in
the right state of mind because nobody would do this.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well. Her defense is arguing she has schizophrenic symptoms. But
I'm like, okay, like anybody that would try to do
this isn't well. Taylor Parker was also not well. But
you have to be held accountable for this. You can't
just go steal somebody's baby at the hospital. Yeah exactly,
but yeah, the state of the child is unknown. But
like the answer when she looked in the bag. The
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kid was very still. I don't know what that means,
but that doesn't seem good. But it didn't say the
baby died or anything. Oh my god, it's just so awful.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
A groom has been arrested in charge after allegedly raping
one of his guests on the night of his wedding.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, this is outrageous. So, like, you know, when you're
when you get married and stuff like, why would this
even have you know what I mean, Like, how is
this even on this person's mind. I doubt this is
the first time he's done something like.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
This, obviously. So this woman saying she attended the wedding
as a guest. She was staying at someone's house that night.
Everyone went to bed. It was just the two of
them left on the couch. He then began kissing her
against her will. She went into another room to avoid him.
He followed her there and continued coming on to her.
She said. The next thing she knew, she was unconscious,
and then she woke up in an unfamiliar room with
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all her clothes on the floor. So she went to
the hospital and had a rape kit done, and then
the DNA and the rape kit matched to guy.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like, this is just so bizarre, Like these people are thirty.
You're thirty eight years old, so you're kind of like
an older person getting married, right, It's not like you're
nineteen or somethings in Pennsylvany. This is the course. Yeah,
is this in like Podunk, Pennsylvania? Because this is it
just sounds like like some backwoods kind of situation. I
(26:51):
don't even know, but like, thirty eight year old person
is getting married. Why is anyone at your house at
all on your wed this is your I don't think
it was their house. I think it was like a
friend's house. But he was so he so the groom
was at another person's house? Where was the bride? Like
this is just so bizarre. I don't know, Like, aren't
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you supposed to kind of hang out together that night?
Isn't that like a.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thing I would say during my wedding, I barely saw
Ricky like during the wedding itself, but after when we
went out, we were together the entire time.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But did you you went out after like with your friends?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, that's weird to me.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You went to bed? Yeah, I went at like nine
o'clock at night we wanted to keep paying out. We
went to Old City. We got married, and then we
went to Old City. We went to the hotel we
were staying in, and then I got changed into like
not my enormous wedding dress because I'm also not like
pick look at me walking around of my big wedding dress.
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So I got changed. I took some of my extensions out,
and then we went to the bar and hung out
with a couple of people, and then we went to
bed and I got in some new cookies at like
two o'clock in the morning. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well, okay, regardless, like I just I don't even understand
what happened here. It's just like so this guy, I mean,
like he's he this isn't an accusation, like this happened
DNA proof, and he's going he's out on ball, which
is ridiculous. Now she's married to this guy. He's going
(28:28):
to go to jail for this. I hope he goes
to jail for this. He has to write you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Would think, well, you never know these days when I suppose.
But regardless, I mean, whether he committed a crime or not,
he cheated on her, and there's proof.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean I think the cheating is like beyond
when it's you know, like this isn't even cheat on
your wedding night. Yeah, this isn't even cheating. This is
like you committed a crime, you know, it's it's like
definitely a hair up of cheating.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Someone was just telling me that they had a friend
who gave birth and the husband left the hospital at
like six o'clock at night and then picked up their
other kid at like two o'clock in the morning, and
said he was like, I don't even know what excuse
he made, but I think he told the pregnant wife like,
I'm going to pick up our other kid, and then
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he didn't pick the kid up till two o'clock in
the morning, so obviously like he went out.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This is like someone you know.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, it's somebody you know too. Oh, it's a really
old story. It's not the married couple. We're not people
we know, but it happened to somebody we know told
us this. Okay, don't I don't want to give specifics.
He cased. Okay, baby, of these people it's alive, who's.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like around your age, so who's listening around the baby's
my age? Yeah, this happened in like the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, all right, anyway, Yeah, I think there's probably like
a lot of like, yeah, I'm sure that happens a lot.
Those were the good old days when mothers would be
knocked out for birth and the dad would be in
the waiting room drinking in old fashioned I'm just kidding. Okay,
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this is also close to us. So thirty minutes this
is a good story. Though. It's a good story even
though it seep scary. First thirty minutes before this couple
was supposed to get married, the bride had a seizure
while taking their wedding photos. So they went to the
er and decided the show must go on, and they
still went forward with the wedding at the hospital mergency room.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, it's so cute. So they go there and listen
like they were having a legit wedding. She was taking
her pictures before the wedding and she had a seizure,
so she had to go to the hospital, and they
just said it was probably because she was really excited
and dehydrated and nerves and all that stuff. So it
seemed to have been an isolated incident. But she was
(30:55):
in the emergency room and was like no, like this
is the day I picked for my wedding day. And
the person that was marrying them was able to show
up at the hospital and the nurses like they got
all of these like streamers and balloons that they had
laying around for like parties they have at the hospital
for each other, and they decorated it and everything and
they got married there. It's like so cool. That is
(31:26):
pretty such a good story. It is really a.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Good story because it's like obviously like the whole wedding
gout year old and everything, but it's like, you still
want to get married that they to me, that's a
couple that actually wanted to be married, be married and
they're in love, not all these people that I'm just
I'm just figuring out that so many people don't actually
want to be married. They just want like Facebook pictures or.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
The party to check the list one hundred thousand dollars party.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like, oh, I'm thirty five, now I should just marry
this person I'm totally not in love with that I've
been in a relationship with for a couple of years.
Instead of trying to make either of our lives happier
with this living misery.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, I mean, the divorce rate is high. It's it's
it's it's probably over fifty percent. But if you think
about it, like that's ones that actually admit they fail
and then do it. But there's probably another huge percent
of people that stay together that you know, just for
(32:20):
money or kids or whatever. So it's like the success
rate of marriage is probably more at twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That is insane. One of my favorite real housewives just
announced yesterday her and her husband are separated, which is
a bummer. They were married for twenty seven years, which is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A really long time.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That really upsets me.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I know, you don't care because these you think that these.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Are like real people and relationships. You're like, you watch it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Somebody married for twenty seven years is not in a
real relationship that's only been on TV for three years.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, whatever, whatever they're saying isn't true.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, that's totally how that weird? All right? Under your
questions and emails. If you have questions or stories for us,
please submit them to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. We're
gonna read one extra today because we did have an
update in the porta potty story. If you guys, remember
last week we were talking about two listeners that wrote
in about babies that had been found in porta potties abandoned,
(33:21):
and we were wondering if they were the same story.
So one of these chicks wrote in with an update.
She said, just updating you after hearing the last episode.
When you started reading the second email, my heart skipped
a beat because it was around the same year when
I learned or about the baby at my grandmother's house.
But my case happened in British Columbia, so weird. It
would have been crazy if it was the same baby,
(33:43):
and I would have loved to know a conclusion. I
was too young to ever learn an update, and my
grandma is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Long gone now.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So I tried to do a Google search to find
if the case was ever solved. I didn't find anything,
but I sadly found lots of other similar stories, including
a baby found in a porta potty in twenty twenty
in the city I currently live in. It's sure a
sad world sometimes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of the porta potty situation is
is interesting too, because we've had a couple stories now
this year of babies being for being found in there,
which is more acceptable to me than the one that
we heard this week about the guy. We talked about
it mostly on YouTube Live, and we did a like
(34:25):
brief segment on Monday's like, dude, I'm just never going
to get over that. The video is so outrageous, like
when the cop opens the door and this guy's head
is popping out of the whole of the of the toilet,
like and and he's in the tank. He's in he's
(34:45):
in the tank, and he said he was fetching his
mountain dew. And that's because I've come I've determined that
he's on meth. And that's that's the only thing that
makes sense, because people that take meth drink a lot
of mountain dew. Like it's just a correlation who drinks
who drinks mountain do that shit. Actually, one of the
(35:07):
doctors I used to work with who was like just
like really really awesome and one of the smartest doctors
I worked with. He was and he was super healthy
and everything. He had this vice that he drank mountain
do and we were like, dude, what are you doing?
That ship is terrible for you.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Listen. On a side note, I've just converted to the
pure Jersey trash. I was meant to be because I've
been drinking coke cereros, which me and Ricky refer to
as fridge SIGs. And then I started playing video solid array.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what's interesting about that?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Again?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Another thing that we're going to talk about on YouTube
Live this week. There's there's been a new unveiling from
Coca Cola of this like new rebranding they're doing, and
it's going viral because the font that is used throughout
the branding is like it's red and white and it's
a very specific font that looks like Marbo's cigarette. Okay, well, I.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Want to say that if anybody's ever watched a show
that many consider boring, which is The Food That Built America,
which is actually a great History Channel show, when you
watch the Coca Cola episode, I would say they should
not change anything, because the last time I tried to
change branding, flavor, anything, it totally bombed.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They didn't change they didn't change the cans or anything.
It's just like the advertisement behind it. The font is
just it just gives off cigarette addiction vibes, like it's
the same kind of font that was used for cigarettes
back in the eighties, and it's just really interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, I am addicted to coke zero. I'm not alleging
them of putting addicting ingredients and that. I'm just saying personally,
I started drinking it when I am my gestational diabetes diagnosis,
and now I need to have one every single day,
and I feel like a trash person for it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You should, but it's so you know, we got a
birch beer.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We got a birch beer on the boardwalk this manco
and mangos.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, Which it wasn't fountain, it was a bottle. How
they have fountain there because I don't know they they
came back with a bottle.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I would say I don't want this, I know anyway,
Like I took a sip of it. I can't even
drink it. It's so it's too sweet anymore. Like the
flavor is delicious. I just wish they could make a
different They might make a diet one. Actually, I just
want to say go.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Circling back to the meth head in the porta potty,
the methi thing was not the mountain dew. It was
the reaching into the porta ponty tank for the mountain dew.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And obviously, but you would only do that if you
were on meth.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's what I'm saying. But he took it one step
further and climbed all the way into the tank, which
obviously lines up with the fact that he's on some
type of drug, because a normal sane person wouldn't even
put their hand in the tank for a soda, let
alone crawl all the way in there and get stuck.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I felt so bad for the firefighters because I'm just like,
they're telling him to get out and he's like stuck,
and then they're like, great, now we have to use
a freaking hydraulic saul and like cut this dude out
of this discussion. Like porta potties are just disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I saw a video after we recorded YouTube live of
them posy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know what it reminds me of Like in in
Tommy Boy, when when the you know, the brother who's
played by what's his name brob Low is like spraying
him with the with the the gas at the gas
station and he's like and Chris Farley's like singing, I'm
a maniac, maniac and he's getting like all wet. That's
(38:37):
what it looks like when that guy's getting hosed down.
Just like it makes me laugh. I'm just like they're
they're hosing down this shiit off, this guy in the
porta potty juice.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I will forever say this. I think Rob Lowe is
one of the funniest people on the planet. He's not
always in funny roles, but like if you hear him
on podcasts and stuff, he's really hilarious. Yeah he is.
All right, let's get onto this most outrageous submission. This
is a long one. Bear with me, all right. So
when I was younger, probably around thirteen, I started getting
(39:07):
really bad heartburn. I didn't even know it was heartburn
at the time. I just knew something felt burnie in
my throat and stomach. My parents told me it was
probably heartburn. If I took thumbs, it would go away.
So I chalked it up to being heartburn. But my
parents wanted me to get checked because that's too young,
apparently to be getting hartburn every day. So the doctor
checked me out and said everything seems fine with blood work, etc.
But they wanted to do a scope I think called
(39:29):
an endoscopy. Basically, they wanted to make sure there wasn't
something else going on inside of me, since I was
so young and acid reflux wasn't really common for young people,
so naturally I was crapping my pants about getting the
procedure done. I was a nervous wreck. But we went
to Chop and had the procedure done and everything seemed fine.
We went home and later that day I took a shit.
(39:50):
It was basically jet black. I went down and I
went down or I went downstairs and laughably told my
parents about it, and I noticed that they just looked
at each other with concern. Told me that in the
paperwork that came home, it says that if that happens,
to go back to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So we went back to the hospital and they said
they needed.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
To make sure my stomach wasn't bleeding and they were
going to do a procedure which required me to be awake.
They shoved tubes up my dose down into my stomach,
which was the worst thing I've ever felt. I couldn't
even sit there and let them do it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
They would get.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Halfway down and I felt like I was suffocating, and
I would pull the tubes out. They were real assholes
about it and told me that if I don't stop
doing that, they're going to have to get the big
guy they call Garum. They told me down. They tried
it three or four times, and every time I pulled
it out and by the time or by the end
of the tubes were bloody as they were coming out,
(40:42):
because I guess I was pulling them so hard. They said,
it's time to get the gorilla.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Is you're so mean, Like Nick is being vulnerable and
telling us this terrible story, this trauma tizing story. He
probably has to turn it down because he can't even
rehear it. You're like laughing at it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's the gorilla, all right, wait this war. They said,
it's time to get the gorilla. My dad said, yeah,
that's not happening. You can either go get authorization to
sedate him or put him under, or you stop. So
they went in the back and talk. So I guess,
(41:26):
so I guess the higher ups, And twenty five minutes
later they came back down and said, yeah, this isn't
really necessary. He's probably fine. Our scope probably just nicked him.
So basically, what you're telling me is that we were
trying to milk the insurance, probably for a procedure that
didn't need to be done, and literally traumatized me for
the rest of my life of s sorry laughing, because
(41:47):
every time I go to the doctors for something or
get tested for something that they say is not going
to be a big deal, I automatically think of the
worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
He thinks the girls.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Listen, we talked to Nick.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Nick is gonna hate us.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Nick's gonna hate us. We're so sorry, but we do
talk to you a lot, so we feel like we
know you a little better than the average listeners is sorry,
we're making fun of you, all right. So we wrapped
it up with so they deemed as a reflux and
I've been on acid prohibitor for twenty six years now.
They had me stop taking the medicine a few times
(42:30):
to see if I was good, but I ended up
getting hartburn again. So they said, unfortunately, you need to
take the medicine for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
All right, So let's talk about what happens. So this
we have to also say that he's like a little
bit older than you, So this happened in the nineties.
He's like forty, right, So this is like, if I
read this story, I'd be like, there's no way that
this is happening today, just because what I just went
through with Lucia at Children's hospital is just like a
(42:59):
completely diff front ballgame of like them scared to death
to traumatize the kid for the rest of their life,
like because of because of it. Nick was definitely a
guinea pig in this situation. So he had so he
had an endoscopy done, and what probably happened when he
got the endoscopy done was they probably took biopsies, and
(43:20):
he was bleeding from the biopsy site and that's and
and he could have had gastritis already, which is why
he was having all the heartburn, pain and everything like that.
So when they did the biopsy, he bled and that's
why you know, hours later when he went to the
bathroom his poop was black. Because what happens is if
you're having like if you ever have blood in your
(43:42):
poop and it's bright red, that means it's coming from
your lower gi track, like your colon. Right, it's usually
like diverticulitis or hemorrhoids or something like that, or a tumor,
which is worst case scenario. When it's black like that
(44:05):
in your stool, that means it's coming from the upper
GI track because it's had time to hemalize, so the
blood turns like a brownish black color, right, So of
course it's concerned because sometimes they could they could cause
a significant amount of bleeding to the point where it
makes a person anemic and they need to test and
(44:25):
make sure it's happening. So I guess back in the
day they would do nasogastric tube because they didn't want
to sedate him because of the risk that come with sedation.
Although I'm confused because he just had an endoscopy and
seemingly had no reaction to the the anesthesia, so I
(44:45):
don't and it's not like full anesthesia, So I really
don't understand what the point of putting someone through that,
because obviously, if you're sticking a tube down someone up
someone's nose, down the back of their throat, it's going
to be like traumatic for even an adult that it's traumatic.
(45:06):
And the fact that he kept pulling it out it
was just like ripping at his already irritated stomach, lining
and esophagus. Like, I don't understand what the point of
it was, and especially threatening a child with a large
man coming and sitting on them that that's named gorilla.
(45:26):
Its fucking frightening, Like, but this is exactly why they
they're like now they're they're brutal now to the opposite
extreme of like coming in and saying like, is it
okay if I touch your hand, let me show you
what you're gonna get done? When you get this IV
and they pull out like this IV and they show
(45:48):
them exactly what they're doing and stuff.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
And I'm like, that's more traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
That's what I think too. I was more like on
the lines that get the gorilla to lay down on
her and just stick the needle in.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
But when I got the Epidora, I was like, do
not show me anything, do not tell me what is happening,
Just do it, Like I don't want to know anything.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Just do it.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Like some of the shit they do.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Now, I'm just kind of like, this is not even helpful,
Like if you show any child a needle or not
going to like it doesn't matter what tone of voice
you talk whatever. So, I mean, dealing with kids sometimes
is just difficult in general. I mean, Nick was clearly
a difficult patient. He did not want that done. But
now it's like you see you get older. He's forty
(46:29):
years old and like still scared the death of doctors
and stuff like. That's that's terrible.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Listen, I understand. And I didn't read this before we
started recording, so I didn't know where it was going
with the Gorilla. I was not prepared for that when
I got I got an endoscope at the end of
twenty twenty, and I remember because I had really bad needlephobia.
So I remember in therapy, my therapist was like something
that happ helps sometimes is like vocalizing it and then
(46:57):
it makes it like less scary in your brain whatever.
So I remember it was like the first doctor thing
I had after that. So like I'm like getting I.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Can't stop thinking.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I just.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Keep thinking about like like a person in a gorilla costume,
like coming through the door, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Like I have this visual of like, well, you know,
that's abuse.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
That's like child abuse. That's like Lillian's thirteen. I can't
imagine like like saying like that. It's so mean.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
It's making me think of that year we went to
the Cheaper Nutcracker.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yes, that was so weird, and they were like, hey,
pulled out a gorilla. Hey, we have this random gorilla
costume in the back. Why not put it to use.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
They're like the dancer didn't fit in the soldier costume,
like the toy. Maybe maybe one.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Of the soldiers called out and they were like, okay,
like all we have is this gorilla. So I go
for the.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Doscoban and she's like, I'm gonna put your iv in
and then I was like, okay, I just want to vocalist,
like I pass out sometimes when I get here. So
she goes, oh, Tody's my first day of work is
a nerd like of course. And then when I woke
up from the anesthesia, they were like, you keep talking
about a beautiful friend dressure because I guess I've had
a tattoo on my leg and I think somebody said something,
(48:13):
you know, when you're on like the anesthesia high Yes, whatever,
All right, let's let's move on. I'm sorry we laughed
at you, but you kind of deserved it with sharing
the gorilla part of the story. I'm sorry that happened
to you. Oh my god. All right. Next is from
another regular listener and YouTube Liver Braylan. She said, my
sister's too cool and busy in the er to ask herself,
(48:35):
but she had a great question. She is wondering if
you could tell when bad versus good CPR is performed
during autopsy. She has watched some questionable CPR. It is
very curious.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, I mean it, there's so many different factors at play.
I mean, ultimately, if they do CPR and they're able
to keep the person alive, then you're you're just kind
of like, however hard they have to do it. I
think it's unreasonable to say that you that you shouldn't
be breaking a person's ribs if you're doing it correctly,
(49:07):
because while that can be true older people, I mean,
sometimes they have osteoporos is so bad you could break
their ribs very very easily because they're just hollow essentially,
and and any people with any other kind of bone
condition like that, especially like I said, older people, So yeah,
(49:30):
I mean I would say in general, though, yes, there's
times that you that I've done the autopsy and it's
like their chest plate is like really broken all over
the place, and you're kind of like, okay, was that necessary?
Like you know, and obviously they're dead, so maybe you
know it was necessary, But there's documented cases of CPR
(49:53):
killing people. I mean, if you break a rib, it's
then you have a sharp, jagged object in the abdomen
that you're pushing into the liver that you could lacerate
the liver and cause an internal bleed. So there are
documented cases of that happening. And another thing too is
that there's there's underlying medical conditions that could cause the
(50:15):
liver to be enlarge, like a fatty liver or something
could be double the size, or or someone that has
you know, chronic passive congestion or something like that, like
their liver could be enlarged. So that only increased the
risk too. So it's like a multi factorial thing. But
I would say in general, yeah, like I mean one,
(50:36):
I feel like maybe you should see like one or two.
But sometimes there's just like massive bleeding and hemorrhage and
and lots of spots that are broken.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
All right, the asses from Andrea. This is one of
many Weed story submissions we got, so we will read
some more on next week's episode. But they are good guys.
Keep writing them into us because they're awesome, all right,
Andrea says My one experience with eating any amount of
weed was this one time I ate a very small
cookie that my friend's sister made, who never smoked, drank,
did anything. I had the smallest cookie, but I thought
(51:08):
I was going to die so much that I literally
put five bowls of water and five bowls of food
out for my dog so we would survive until someone
found my dead body. I will never touch that ever again.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
It is great, It's true, right, And in the moment,
like she could probably look back and just be like okay,
Like if you look back, you'd be like, okay, if
you really thought you were going to die, like why
didn't you call nine one? Want to go to the hospital?
Like in the In the moment though, she like was
just like okay, like I'm definitely going to die here,
(51:44):
and like let me do this and put this out
because that made sense at the time. It just shows
you how out of your mind you are on it
like that, Like it's just that's That's how I don't
know how to describe it other than like.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
It.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I guess it's what's somebody considers to be like a
bad trip or something like I just it was just
a weird It was a weird thing.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I think just some people, like I think you and
Amy talked about it best, like some people just have
the chemistry and their body that it doesn't work, and
some people it just doesn't bother at all. So it's
it's like scary if you're one of those people and
you don't know it.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I could have sworn that night that I split the
cookie with one of my friends or something. Yeah, and
and she got messed up from it too, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
So it was like but but like when you're when
you're having those things, the doses is like, eh, you know,
like if you you ever like bake something and maybe
you like there'res it's not mixed well, and there's like
baking sowed in one part of it or something that
you could taste like, it's the same kind of thing, right,
it's not even.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Like I even questioned the dispensary edibles and I feel
like with candy you could probably make it more even.
But if you get like pastries, like there's just no
way it is perfectly even unless you're testing the individual pastry,
which how.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, like I'm against it
but people, I'm glad to see all these stories that
like other because a lot of people I feel like,
I feel like there's not a ton of people that
actually talk about like the horrible things that have happened
to them on it, you know, like you just don't
hear about it that much.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
No, And I think a lot of it is people
don't want to accept that it's not as safe as
they think it is. And it's like this is not
the weed of the seventies we're talking about, like it
has been so chemically altered over the years. Of course
it's gonna be different. Yeah, all right, Well, if you
guys have weed stories, we love to hear them. I
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
On today's episode, we have a few disturbing stories involving
the medical world, including a doctor who was not only
distributing child sexual abuse material but also creating it. We'll
get into exactly what he was doing and some tips
on how to protect your kids. Then we'll get into
a story involving a man who claims he was switched
(00:42):
at birth and a nurse's aide who tried to kidnap
a baby at a hospital. Then we'll talk about two
separate couples that had very untraditional wedding nights. We'll finish
up with your comments, questions, and emails. All that and
more on today's episode. This story is so disturbing on
so many levels with this doctor, well it is on.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Many levels if this was a normal person, but especially
because it was a doctor. So this doctor is facing
forty seven charges of child pornography after an investigation revealed
he used AI to remove the clothes from real photos
of young girls and bikinis, and he also had images
of one woman that he knew.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So I guess it started off that he had an
account on this kick have you heard of it.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's like I think we've talked about it before with
roadblocks issues, where like predators are taking kids off roadblocks
and having them go on discord or kick to further communications.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, like I just think it's I don't really understand
the point of any adults being even on a thing
like that. But but regardless, like, okay, so he's on
this thing called Kick, Like it's just weird whenever you
hear of a grown adult being on something like that,
because think about all of the grown adults that you
talk to that are around forty to fifty years old.
(01:59):
They're all on Instagram or x or Facebook and maybe
TikTok and maybe read it and maybe read it like
all these other ones like Lemonade and all these like
little kid ones Snapchat. Like most people our age are
just like not on that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
This is gonna be controversial, but I'm sorry, Like I
will stand by this. If you were over like twenty
two years old and on Snapchat, you're up to no good.
I'm sorry, Like, there's just no reason it is four
teenagers and young adults.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah, so that I mean that's when you just talk
to everyone. So then if you're talking to another random
adult and they say that they're on one of these
like ones that kids are typically on. I just feel
like it's it's off. So he was on there and
someone had an anonymous like a cyber tip that they
saw a twenty five second video of a nude pre
(02:47):
pubescent girl, and not only did the video show this girl,
but there were like thumbnails next to it as well.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So additional, I like, I don't know if you saw
the other article really breaking down the specifics of guy.
I was like feeling so sick to my stomach reading it.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, so he works at or did, because I can't
imagine he's going to get his job back University of
Florida was a kidney specialist and an assistant professor, so
forty years old. I don't know that he was necessarily
seeing like children as patients, which it doesn't matter regardless.
I the thing that I want to take away from
(03:25):
this and I wanted to talk about on this specific
episode was what you said earlier that he was taking
pictures off the internet of kids that are thirteen and
fourteen years old wearing bikinis and then taking their clothes
off and making them naked, and like with AI And
the reason that I want to talk to you guys
about this is because I see pictures, including my friends
(03:48):
post things of their children in bikinis in like Leotard's
things like that they're barely wearing any clothes all the time,
And I just don't understand why people do it.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Understand that either, And I don't understand why people post
pictures of kids in the bath like you can think
we're crazy all you want, Like there are many people
out there using these images to do horrible things like
this guy is like, and I wonder if the if
they're able even to figure out where he gets these
pictures of these children, and if their parents are told
(04:22):
about it, or if they could even figure out who
the children are. Like for example, we had a Fourth
of July party and Byron took up like a really
awesome picture of all the kids and June was wearing
her bathing suit like you could see it, and I
was gonna post it on Instagram just because like it
was a cute picture. And then I'm like, no, I'm
not gonna post a picture because one of the teenagers
(04:42):
is wearing a bathing suit. Like it's just like a
rule I have I'm just not going to do it
because I know that there's creeps like this that look
at that, and like there's not enough talked about just
this in general, and certain things like I was saying
the dance recital, how I thought it was way too
(05:03):
sexual for children, Like you just don't know who's in
the audience. You don't know most of the people are
dads that are just kind of there, and then you
just don't know, especially when people could buy tickets that
might not even know anybody that's in the show. Yeah,
but that's not to say that even the dead in
the crowd is not a tool create It's not.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If you think about how many sex offenders are in
the general population and then put together four hundred people
in a room, I guarantee you one of them is
at least like on the edge there, and it's just why,
like why take the chance. I know that it's very
hard to put your mind in that situation because you
look at a kid in a bathing suit and you're
(05:45):
just like, yeah, that's just my kid in a bathing suit.
She's just having fun. But like these people go out
of their way to look for that, Like it's the
same as like when when teenage boys first start masturbating
and they looked at the J. C. Penny catalog at
women in underwear and broth like it's enough to get
them off, you know what I mean, It doesn't. It
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might not seem sexual to you, but to them it is.
And now they have the technology to take their clothes off.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, And it's just like putting an emoji over like
if your kids in the bath, putting an emoji over
their genitals is like nobody's asking you or putting a
gun to your head to post a picture of your
kid in the bath. Just stop doing it. It's just
not necessary to have. And it's like there's a lot
of conversations like I feel like people need to have
social media training of sorts. It's like, when you buy
(06:32):
a house, you should not post a picture of the
front of your house on social media.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Everybody does it with the addressed and everything.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
All you have to do is google the number and
the town and you could find the listing or you
can just screenshot their picture and reverse image search it
and find the house. Like it's seriously that easy. And
it's the same with kids. People can use this technology,
which allegedly the safeguards in place, so this doesn't happen.
But we know that's not happening everywhere clearly that they
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can do these things with pictures or it's just enough
that they're attracted to it, so it's just like totally
not necessary.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I feel like even with the baby, like.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I've had to have conversations with some people in the
family and be like if I send a picture in
the family group chat of him, like you know, I
sent a picture of him like without his one zeon,
laying in his lounger looking all cute and his diaper, Like,
please do not post this on the internet. I don't.
I don't want these pictures online.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Like yeah, it's like it's it's hard. It's hard to avoid.
It's just hard to avoid in general. But but yeah,
like I mean it's hard to avoid as far as
as just like everybody taking pictures parties things like that.
But because I think it's a little because I do
know people that are on the complete opposite end that
are just like they don't want a picture of their
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child on the internet at all, which I just think
is not realistic at this point. You know, I don't
really it's the same at the kids' school, Like, it's
just very hard to not get your kid's picture on
the internet, just because of all of the different situations
the child's and growing up, and you know, there's very
(08:10):
innocent things like softball teams and stuff just want to
post the picture of the kids winning, and like you
just it's it's very hard to not have your child
on the internet like that, and and realistically, if they're
on there once in their entire life, it's over, you know.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
But I think the rule of thumb in general with family.
I know it's hard because they go to school and
the school takes picture and stuff, But I think with families,
a general rule of thumb should be, like if the
parents haven't posted the picture, you should not be posting
the picture because like a lot of older people in particular,
I don't know if I said this on here or
YouTube live, but I know somebody recently came up on
my Facebook. They were tagged in a picture of their
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baby and their aunt like posted a picture of their
kids genitals like fully out and like it's a newborn,
but like still that dead picture should not be on
the internet. I should not have seen it. But like
a lot of people don't understand that everything they post
every single person can see.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And kids kids are like it's weird because they're just
growing up in a different time than us. Like I
was joking with one of my friends recently that I
might have I'm serious, that I might have twenty pictures
of myself when I was a child up until the
age of like fifteen years old. I mean, like at all,
(09:23):
at all, Like I'm serious. Like there's a box downstairs,
and there's there's a couple like floating around because back
then it was just like my mom had a camera.
Then it was like the big with the disposable camera thing.
Half of them never got developed. Even if they did,
it was like, you know, if you just have like
a person that just she wasn't really into a camera,
(09:45):
she had it. Sometimes there's a couple of pictures. There's
probably more professional pictures of like her taking us to
this freaking terrible place called Olin Mills when we were
a kid that we had to go sit at all
day and take all these corny pictures wa and like
it's like me and my sister and brother's face like
all together like stacked and stuff. It's so terrible.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Side note, In Cheryl's book, she was talking about that
place Glamour shot to remember.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Oh yeah, in the mall.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, it's like if you if you guys live in
this area, it's like where the pack sun is now
in the Deafered Mall. I like vividly remember that place
being there. It's a little kid, yeah, and they would
like do your hair.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But like, but that's like all that was all you
had of documentation, so anything. And still even those few
pictures that I have, I'm just kind of like, oh
my god, my hair was so terrible. Oh my God,
Like thank God, Like I am in control of these pictures.
They're not just like on the internet for everyone to see.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, your family didn't take the most disgusting picture
of you at thirteen years old on a raft that
then they distributed amongst the family to make fun of
you and for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
That really it really wasn't that bad. You need to relax.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, anyway, I mean this is super dark. This guy
was married, so they said that his wife was in
India from January through March of twenty twenty six, which
is a period that overlapped with many of his messages
on the kick site, and then reportedly communications where he
was talking about doing something called age play, which is
(11:19):
defined as a form of role play when consenting adults
act out roles of different ages, typically with one person
acting as a child, infant, or younger persona and the
other as a caregiver. It's a consensual activity used for
emotional regulation, coping with stress, or as sexual BDSM kink.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
So they had found communications where he was doing this
age play with a seventeen well she's nineteen years old now,
but she had been seventeen when they started talking, and
then there was really dark shit about like involving her
younger sister and stuff like I'm telling you, this really
got dark. Like I don't even want to repeat half
the stuff I read. It's like two, it's too dark.
(11:57):
You just can't go there. I like wish I could
have raised my mind when I read it well.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And like and honestly, this is exactly what I was
thinking when I was reading this. Because we always talk
about like terrible shit that first responders and cops see.
We're gonna talk about that actually on YouTube Live this
week because I have a video of like police cam
footage of like a cop walking into a scene and
(12:24):
like throwing up and stuff like it's it's really raw,
and like you could you could see how disturbing it
is to be in those situations. Sometimes there's some investigator
that had to look at pictures of thirteen year old
children that were ai altered to make them look naked,
and like these investigators have children of their own and stuff,
(12:45):
and just like imagine not only how upsetting it is,
but how pissed off these people get that they probably
want to beat the shit out of these guys.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Like, I mean, I feel like when I read Paul
Hole's book, he talked about just how much of I've
told this kid take on your family life seeing these
horrible things.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
All the time. Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean they're normal people too, Like they obviously have
a tough exterior, but like it doesn't make you it
doesn't make it easier to process all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, And like when you're when you're not a child
sex predator, like seeing stuff like that bothers the shit
out of you, you know, and like of you you
know that from reading this stuff, Like I like sometimes,
just like what you said, I read some stuff and
I'm like okay, Like because with crimes and stuff, I'm
like I always want to know, like all the dirty
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details down to the second. But when it comes to kids,
I even said this with my forensic textbooks and stuff,
like I don't want to I don't want to see
it and I don't want to know, Like it just
upsets me so bad.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
No, definitely not. I think about that a lot with
like domestic violence cases with child abuse. Think it's just
like you see the most awful things that could possibly happen,
all right. Two families are suing in North Dakota hospital
claiming their children were switched at bird after this thirty
six year old man took a DNA test and discovered
his parents were not biologically related to him.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So he took the test because it was given to
him for a Christmas present. It wasn't even like he was.
There was no suspicion at all his whole entire.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Life, although he did say something he felt like he
didn't belong sometimes, but I don't say so.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Does everybody, come on, I still don't belong? Maybe I
should take one and unfortunately mine was positive for my
own family.
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
Well, actually, actually nothing came up on her side except
the Polish heritage I suppose, but the family actually came
up on pop up side. But yeah, I mean, and listen,
I want you guys to write in if anybody has
either had a personal experience or knows somebody that this
happened to, because we hear about this quite often that
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people take I mean usually it's a person takes it
and then it's like their dad's not really their dad.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
But could you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Imagine the shock of taking a test like this and
your parents not being your parents, and then people that
are coming up as first to so, like when I
did mine, for example, my my aunt, my dad's sister,
my aunt Evely and her son came up as a
first degree relative for me, right, So could you imagine
taking that and some like Rando coming up and you
(17:13):
being like, who the hell is that? I don't even
have any cousins, you know?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, yeah, so I guess what happened in this case
is he took it and then they weren't his biological parents,
and then the aunt he believed was biologically related to
him then submitted her sample and a nephew came up
for her. But he doesn't have any cousins, so like
like that he knew or something happened, Like yeah, no,
that's so I'm getting confused by no, it is.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
It's really confusing. So so somehow, I mean, I guess
it's easy when you have first and last names that
come up. It's easy to find people now with Facebook
and things like that. So it turns out that they
were both born on the same exact day in the
same exac hospital and they were the only two children
that were born that day.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So it seems crazy. But the hospital I gave birth
that I is like probably only one of a handful
that day. It's not like there was like twenty five
people given birth that day.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
So obviously, like they're so it's good because both of
both of the guys how old. They're thirty something right,
I feel.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Like they're nineteen eighty eight, so January nineteen eighty eight, so.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
They're like almost forty, right, they they are like they've
they've each met their biological parents. Now the boys have
not met each other, but they have talked to each
other on the phone, and they still both say like
the family that raised them is their parents and stuff. However,
this is like a turning two families completely upside down year.
(18:43):
I mean like that, this is how old Louis was
born in eighty seven, That's how old my brother is.
I just could you just imagine, like this far into
your life, getting news like that and finding out all
of this, And and this.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Guy was saying he had an older brother he didn't
even know about. I guess that family owned a farm
and they all work on the farm. So he's like,
I don't even know how different my life would be.
And so he took their test when he was thirty six,
and now they're thirty eight. So it's like it took
two whole years for this to unravel.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So this is the part that's really pissing me off
about it though. So they're trying to sue the hospital
for negligence, medical mail practice, and emotional distress, which they
should one hundred percent, and the hospital is is like
they're denying it. They're like they're saying there's no evidence
to prove this. What evidence do you need? Like they're
saying all the records.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Are gone, yeah, and it's like, oh, well, it's been
four decades. What do you want to see?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
All the records are gone, nobody works there anymore, And
it's just like, what this is the evidence right here?
The DNA test, Like I can't even imagine unless like
the moms agreed to switch the babies in the hospital,
which one hundred percent didn't happen, it has to be
their fault, like.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
It has to be because he this guy also made
sure to say we didn't even grow up near each other.
It's not like it could have happened anywhere else, Like
we weren't. It's not like we were like going to
take care, yeah exactly. And I think I think that
the one the guy still has like his hospital bracelet,
one of them.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Like they have a yeah exactly like that. It is
exactly like they said, that's enough proof right there, because
most people do like I feel like with the girls,
we saved them, So I don't know where the hell
they're at. They're somewhere in this house, but like you know,
you you saved the card from the bed like stuff
like that.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Well, I don't know if this is pertaining to an
incident that occurred that we covered last year. But when
I when I just gave birth, like the baby had
a bracelet that said Cane Boy Maria, and then I
had a bracelet that said my name, Ricky had a
bracelet that said my name, And every time they did
shift change, they checked all the bracelets to make sure they.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Were I don't think that that's new, honestly, But like, how.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Did they those babies last year, don't I don't know,
I don't It's possible that they were switched and they
had the correct bracelets on and like they just didn't
look at the brains.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Because here, that's what I think happened. I don't think
it was and I think because that happened around us,
and I think at that particular hospital, which is the
worst place on earth, by the way, I've said that
multiple times. They they're supposed to like scan the bracelets, scan,
you know, you're supposed to scan all of them. And
something happened there. But when that lady was breastfeeding the
(21:22):
wrong kid, like I think that that kid was labeled
wasn't labeled incorrectly it was just like handed off incorrectly
kind of because like if someone hands you a kid
and your postpartum, you know how that feels. You just
went through it, like are you looking at their bracelet
to see it's them?
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, but the nurse is supposed to be checking their
bracelet that she didn't sing that thing. Yeah, and it
was like that didn't do it. Yeah, So that's what
I didn't understand about it. I mean, you want to think, like,
you know what your kid looks like, but I didn't
really realize until after I got home, and then I
started seeing a bunch of Instagram and tiktoks about newborns
and I'm like, no, all newborns kind of look exactly
(21:57):
the same. It's like really crazy, actually not exactly, but I.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Don't I don't think. I saw two Instagram videos where
I was like, if you.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Told me that was my baby, I'd say, it does
look just like my Oh my god, I'm just saying.
But when they're right fresh out, like I don't know
now that he's like developing his actual face, it's different.
But the first week for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah. And also Gabe showed me a picture yesterday and
he's just like because you send him more pictures than
you send me.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
By the way, I sent you the same pictures.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And she said, he's like, this is Maria's face one
hundred percent. He's like, this kid is Maria. And I
was like, yeah, funny.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Because like we wait, we wait to see Ricky's family
down the shore on Sunday, and everybody was like, he
looks just like Maria. And then when I went to
MoMA's house yesterday, everybody there was like, he looks like
Ricky today. It's so funny. I mean, I think he
just looks like both of us.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah he does.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I don't know, but okay, I'm just saying I can
see it all right. Speaking of another thing that should
never happen at a hospital, a nurse technician pretended she
was pregnant then tried to steal a newborn from the hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
This is giving like maternal instinct vibes. It's all the same.
It's like the same exact thing. At least she didn't
go all the way with it like the other lady did.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
But well, remember in maternal instinct that her like Obgi
in practice alerted. I think the hospital they thought she
was gonna pretend to give birth at that she might
steal the baby. Oh yeah, there was a whole larc
system anyway. In this case, this happened in Brazil. This
woman was also pretending she was pregnant. They said when
they went to her house, like there was a full
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blown nursery and everything in her family thought she was pregnant.
So she was not on shift at the time this happened.
She went up to the aunt of a newborn and
said she was on shift and she was taking the
baby to get testing done. So then the aunt saw
her go in a room on the maternity floor and
then when she came back, the baby wasn't there and
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she had this huge bag. And then the lady so
then she goes in the bathroom and the ant like
at some point catches up with her and looks in
the bag and sees the baby in the bag, and
it's like, what the hell, you know, and this.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Is crazy shit happens in Brazil. Some of the craziest
stories that we've had this year, including like that lady
that brought her dead uncle to the bank, like all
that shit. It's just like it's always in Brazil.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, I mean, that video is resurfacing again to the
lady that that uncle to the bank anyway. I mean, yeah,
like this is insane. They caught the entire thing on
CCTV in the hospital. They could see the entire thing.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Waits, did you see the video?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
I didn't see the video, but they kept referencing that
they could see the entire thing go down, like her
go up to the family, go in the bathroom, put
the baby in the bag, Like what do you think?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Does she not work there? And understand how cameras were Like, dude.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I even though we are living in a constant surveillance state,
I think people aren't thinking about it. It's well, yeah,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
A little bit different, like if you work there, right,
But I mean you could argue that she's not in
the right state of mind because nobody would do this.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Well. Her defense is arguing she has schizophrenic symptoms. But
I'm like, okay, like anybody that would try to do
this isn't well. Taylor Parker was also not well. But
you have to be held accountable for this. You can't
just go steal somebody's baby at the hospital. Yeah exactly,
but yeah, the state of the child is unknown. But
like the answer when she looked in the bag. The
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kid was very still. I don't know what that means,
but that doesn't seem good. But it didn't say the
baby died or anything. Oh my god, it's just so awful.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
All right.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
A groom has been arrested in charge after allegedly raping
one of his guests on the night of his wedding.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, this is outrageous. So, like, you know, when you're
when you get married and stuff like, why would this
even have you know what I mean, Like, how is
this even on this person's mind. I doubt this is
the first time he's done something like.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
This, obviously. So this woman saying she attended the wedding
as a guest. She was staying at someone's house that night.
Everyone went to bed. It was just the two of
them left on the couch. He then began kissing her
against her will. She went into another room to avoid him.
He followed her there and continued coming on to her.
She said. The next thing she knew, she was unconscious,
and then she woke up in an unfamiliar room with
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all her clothes on the floor. So she went to
the hospital and had a rape kit done, and then
the DNA and the rape kit matched to guy.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like, this is just so bizarre, Like these people are thirty.
You're thirty eight years old, so you're kind of like
an older person getting married, right, It's not like you're
nineteen or somethings in Pennsylvany. This is the course. Yeah,
is this in like Podunk, Pennsylvania? Because this is it
just sounds like like some backwoods kind of situation. I
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don't even know, but like, thirty eight year old person
is getting married. Why is anyone at your house at
all on your wed this is your I don't think
it was their house. I think it was like a
friend's house. But he was so he so the groom
was at another person's house? Where was the bride? Like
this is just so bizarre. I don't know, Like, aren't
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you supposed to kind of hang out together that night?
Isn't that like a.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thing I would say during my wedding, I barely saw
Ricky like during the wedding itself, but after when we
went out, we were together the entire time.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
But did you you went out after like with your friends?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Yeah, that's weird to me.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You went to bed? Yeah, I went at like nine
o'clock at night we wanted to keep paying out. We
went to Old City. We got married, and then we
went to Old City. We went to the hotel we
were staying in, and then I got changed into like
not my enormous wedding dress because I'm also not like
pick look at me walking around of my big wedding dress.
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So I got changed. I took some of my extensions out,
and then we went to the bar and hung out
with a couple of people, and then we went to
bed and I got in some new cookies at like
two o'clock in the morning. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Well, okay, regardless, like I just I don't even understand
what happened here. It's just like so this guy, I mean,
like he's he this isn't an accusation, like this happened
DNA proof, and he's going he's out on ball, which
is ridiculous. Now she's married to this guy. He's going
(28:28):
to go to jail for this. I hope he goes
to jail for this. He has to write you.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Would think, well, you never know these days when I suppose.
But regardless, I mean, whether he committed a crime or not,
he cheated on her, and there's proof.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Yeah, I mean I think the cheating is like beyond
when it's you know, like this isn't even cheat on
your wedding night. Yeah, this isn't even cheating. This is
like you committed a crime, you know, it's it's like
definitely a hair up of cheating.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Someone was just telling me that they had a friend
who gave birth and the husband left the hospital at
like six o'clock at night and then picked up their
other kid at like two o'clock in the morning, and
said he was like, I don't even know what excuse
he made, but I think he told the pregnant wife like,
I'm going to pick up our other kid, and then
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he didn't pick the kid up till two o'clock in
the morning, so obviously like he went out.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This is like someone you know.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yes, it's somebody you know too. Oh, it's a really
old story. It's not the married couple. We're not people
we know, but it happened to somebody we know told
us this. Okay, don't I don't want to give specifics.
He cased. Okay, baby, of these people it's alive, who's.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like around your age, so who's listening around the baby's
my age? Yeah, this happened in like the seventies.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, all right, anyway, Yeah, I think there's probably like
a lot of like, yeah, I'm sure that happens a lot.
Those were the good old days when mothers would be
knocked out for birth and the dad would be in
the waiting room drinking in old fashioned I'm just kidding. Okay,
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this is also close to us. So thirty minutes this
is a good story. Though. It's a good story even
though it seep scary. First thirty minutes before this couple
was supposed to get married, the bride had a seizure
while taking their wedding photos. So they went to the
er and decided the show must go on, and they
still went forward with the wedding at the hospital mergency room.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Yeah, it's so cute. So they go there and listen
like they were having a legit wedding. She was taking
her pictures before the wedding and she had a seizure,
so she had to go to the hospital, and they
just said it was probably because she was really excited
and dehydrated and nerves and all that stuff. So it
seemed to have been an isolated incident. But she was
(30:55):
in the emergency room and was like no, like this
is the day I picked for my wedding day. And
the person that was marrying them was able to show
up at the hospital and the nurses like they got
all of these like streamers and balloons that they had
laying around for like parties they have at the hospital
for each other, and they decorated it and everything and
they got married there. It's like so cool. That is
(31:26):
pretty such a good story. It is really a.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Good story because it's like obviously like the whole wedding
gout year old and everything, but it's like, you still
want to get married that they to me, that's a
couple that actually wanted to be married, be married and
they're in love, not all these people that I'm just
I'm just figuring out that so many people don't actually
want to be married. They just want like Facebook pictures or.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
The party to check the list one hundred thousand dollars party.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Like, oh, I'm thirty five, now I should just marry
this person I'm totally not in love with that I've
been in a relationship with for a couple of years.
Instead of trying to make either of our lives happier
with this living misery.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Well, I mean, the divorce rate is high. It's it's
it's it's probably over fifty percent. But if you think
about it, like that's ones that actually admit they fail
and then do it. But there's probably another huge percent
of people that stay together that you know, just for
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money or kids or whatever. So it's like the success
rate of marriage is probably more at twenty five percent.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
That is insane. One of my favorite real housewives just
announced yesterday her and her husband are separated, which is
a bummer. They were married for twenty seven years, which is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
A really long time.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That really upsets me.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I know, you don't care because these you think that these.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Are like real people and relationships. You're like, you watch it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Somebody married for twenty seven years is not in a
real relationship that's only been on TV for three years.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, whatever, whatever they're saying isn't true.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Okay, that's totally how that weird? All right? Under your
questions and emails. If you have questions or stories for us,
please submit them to stories at Mothernosdeath dot com. We're
gonna read one extra today because we did have an
update in the porta potty story. If you guys, remember
last week we were talking about two listeners that wrote
in about babies that had been found in porta potties abandoned,
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and we were wondering if they were the same story.
So one of these chicks wrote in with an update.
She said, just updating you after hearing the last episode.
When you started reading the second email, my heart skipped
a beat because it was around the same year when
I learned or about the baby at my grandmother's house.
But my case happened in British Columbia, so weird. It
would have been crazy if it was the same baby,
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and I would have loved to know a conclusion. I
was too young to ever learn an update, and my
grandma is.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Long gone now.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
So I tried to do a Google search to find
if the case was ever solved. I didn't find anything,
but I sadly found lots of other similar stories, including
a baby found in a porta potty in twenty twenty
in the city I currently live in. It's sure a
sad world sometimes.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of the porta potty situation is
is interesting too, because we've had a couple stories now
this year of babies being for being found in there,
which is more acceptable to me than the one that
we heard this week about the guy. We talked about
it mostly on YouTube Live, and we did a like
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brief segment on Monday's like, dude, I'm just never going
to get over that. The video is so outrageous, like
when the cop opens the door and this guy's head
is popping out of the whole of the of the toilet,
like and and he's in the tank. He's in he's
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in the tank, and he said he was fetching his
mountain dew. And that's because I've come I've determined that
he's on meth. And that's that's the only thing that
makes sense, because people that take meth drink a lot
of mountain dew. Like it's just a correlation who drinks
who drinks mountain do that shit. Actually, one of the
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doctors I used to work with who was like just
like really really awesome and one of the smartest doctors
I worked with. He was and he was super healthy
and everything. He had this vice that he drank mountain
do and we were like, dude, what are you doing?
That ship is terrible for you.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Listen. On a side note, I've just converted to the
pure Jersey trash. I was meant to be because I've
been drinking coke cereros, which me and Ricky refer to
as fridge SIGs. And then I started playing video solid array.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know what's interesting about that?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Again?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Another thing that we're going to talk about on YouTube
Live this week. There's there's been a new unveiling from
Coca Cola of this like new rebranding they're doing, and
it's going viral because the font that is used throughout
the branding is like it's red and white and it's
a very specific font that looks like Marbo's cigarette. Okay, well, I.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Want to say that if anybody's ever watched a show
that many consider boring, which is The Food That Built America,
which is actually a great History Channel show, when you
watch the Coca Cola episode, I would say they should
not change anything, because the last time I tried to
change branding, flavor, anything, it totally bombed.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
They didn't change they didn't change the cans or anything.
It's just like the advertisement behind it. The font is
just it just gives off cigarette addiction vibes, like it's
the same kind of font that was used for cigarettes
back in the eighties, and it's just really interesting.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Well, I am addicted to coke zero. I'm not alleging
them of putting addicting ingredients and that. I'm just saying personally,
I started drinking it when I am my gestational diabetes diagnosis,
and now I need to have one every single day,
and I feel like a trash person for it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You should, but it's so you know, we got a
birch beer.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We got a birch beer on the boardwalk this manco
and mangos.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yeah, Which it wasn't fountain, it was a bottle. How
they have fountain there because I don't know they they
came back with a bottle.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I would say I don't want this, I know anyway,
Like I took a sip of it. I can't even
drink it. It's so it's too sweet anymore. Like the
flavor is delicious. I just wish they could make a
different They might make a diet one. Actually, I just
want to say go.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Circling back to the meth head in the porta potty,
the methi thing was not the mountain dew. It was
the reaching into the porta ponty tank for the mountain dew.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
And obviously, but you would only do that if you
were on meth.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
That's what I'm saying. But he took it one step
further and climbed all the way into the tank, which
obviously lines up with the fact that he's on some
type of drug, because a normal sane person wouldn't even
put their hand in the tank for a soda, let
alone crawl all the way in there and get stuck.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I felt so bad for the firefighters because I'm just like,
they're telling him to get out and he's like stuck,
and then they're like, great, now we have to use
a freaking hydraulic saul and like cut this dude out
of this discussion. Like porta potties are just disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I saw a video after we recorded YouTube live of
them posy.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
You know what it reminds me of Like in in
Tommy Boy, when when the you know, the brother who's
played by what's his name brob Low is like spraying
him with the with the the gas at the gas
station and he's like and Chris Farley's like singing, I'm
a maniac, maniac and he's getting like all wet. That's
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what it looks like when that guy's getting hosed down.
Just like it makes me laugh. I'm just like they're
they're hosing down this shiit off, this guy in the
porta potty juice.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I will forever say this. I think Rob Lowe is
one of the funniest people on the planet. He's not
always in funny roles, but like if you hear him
on podcasts and stuff, he's really hilarious. Yeah he is.
All right, let's get onto this most outrageous submission. This
is a long one. Bear with me, all right. So
when I was younger, probably around thirteen, I started getting
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really bad heartburn. I didn't even know it was heartburn
at the time. I just knew something felt burnie in
my throat and stomach. My parents told me it was
probably heartburn. If I took thumbs, it would go away.
So I chalked it up to being heartburn. But my
parents wanted me to get checked because that's too young,
apparently to be getting hartburn every day. So the doctor
checked me out and said everything seems fine with blood work, etc.
But they wanted to do a scope I think called
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an endoscopy. Basically, they wanted to make sure there wasn't
something else going on inside of me, since I was
so young and acid reflux wasn't really common for young people,
so naturally I was crapping my pants about getting the
procedure done. I was a nervous wreck. But we went
to Chop and had the procedure done and everything seemed fine.
We went home and later that day I took a shit.
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It was basically jet black. I went down and I
went down or I went downstairs and laughably told my
parents about it, and I noticed that they just looked
at each other with concern. Told me that in the
paperwork that came home, it says that if that happens,
to go back to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
So we went back to the hospital and they said
they needed.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
To make sure my stomach wasn't bleeding and they were
going to do a procedure which required me to be awake.
They shoved tubes up my dose down into my stomach,
which was the worst thing I've ever felt. I couldn't
even sit there and let them do it.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
They would get.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Halfway down and I felt like I was suffocating, and
I would pull the tubes out. They were real assholes
about it and told me that if I don't stop
doing that, they're going to have to get the big
guy they call Garum. They told me down. They tried
it three or four times, and every time I pulled
it out and by the time or by the end
of the tubes were bloody as they were coming out,
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because I guess I was pulling them so hard. They said,
it's time to get the gorilla.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Is you're so mean, Like Nick is being vulnerable and
telling us this terrible story, this trauma tizing story. He
probably has to turn it down because he can't even
rehear it. You're like laughing at it.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
It's the gorilla, all right, wait this war. They said,
it's time to get the gorilla. My dad said, yeah,
that's not happening. You can either go get authorization to
sedate him or put him under, or you stop. So
they went in the back and talk. So I guess,
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so I guess the higher ups, And twenty five minutes
later they came back down and said, yeah, this isn't
really necessary. He's probably fine. Our scope probably just nicked him.
So basically, what you're telling me is that we were
trying to milk the insurance, probably for a procedure that
didn't need to be done, and literally traumatized me for
the rest of my life of s sorry laughing, because
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every time I go to the doctors for something or
get tested for something that they say is not going
to be a big deal, I automatically think of the
worst case scenario.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
He thinks the girls.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Listen, we talked to Nick.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Nick is gonna hate us.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Nick's gonna hate us. We're so sorry, but we do
talk to you a lot, so we feel like we
know you a little better than the average listeners is sorry,
we're making fun of you, all right. So we wrapped
it up with so they deemed as a reflux and
I've been on acid prohibitor for twenty six years now.
They had me stop taking the medicine a few times
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to see if I was good, but I ended up
getting hartburn again. So they said, unfortunately, you need to
take the medicine for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
All right, So let's talk about what happens. So this
we have to also say that he's like a little
bit older than you, So this happened in the nineties.
He's like forty, right, So this is like, if I
read this story, I'd be like, there's no way that
this is happening today, just because what I just went
through with Lucia at Children's hospital is just like a
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completely diff front ballgame of like them scared to death
to traumatize the kid for the rest of their life,
like because of because of it. Nick was definitely a
guinea pig in this situation. So he had so he
had an endoscopy done, and what probably happened when he
got the endoscopy done was they probably took biopsies, and
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he was bleeding from the biopsy site and that's and
and he could have had gastritis already, which is why
he was having all the heartburn, pain and everything like that.
So when they did the biopsy, he bled and that's
why you know, hours later when he went to the
bathroom his poop was black. Because what happens is if
you're having like if you ever have blood in your
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poop and it's bright red, that means it's coming from
your lower gi track, like your colon. Right, it's usually
like diverticulitis or hemorrhoids or something like that, or a tumor,
which is worst case scenario. When it's black like that
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in your stool, that means it's coming from the upper
GI track because it's had time to hemalize, so the
blood turns like a brownish black color, right, So of
course it's concerned because sometimes they could they could cause
a significant amount of bleeding to the point where it
makes a person anemic and they need to test and
(44:25):
make sure it's happening. So I guess back in the
day they would do nasogastric tube because they didn't want
to sedate him because of the risk that come with sedation.
Although I'm confused because he just had an endoscopy and
seemingly had no reaction to the the anesthesia, so I
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don't and it's not like full anesthesia, So I really
don't understand what the point of putting someone through that,
because obviously, if you're sticking a tube down someone up
someone's nose, down the back of their throat, it's going
to be like traumatic for even an adult that it's traumatic.
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And the fact that he kept pulling it out it
was just like ripping at his already irritated stomach, lining
and esophagus. Like, I don't understand what the point of
it was, and especially threatening a child with a large
man coming and sitting on them that that's named gorilla.
(45:26):
Its fucking frightening, Like, but this is exactly why they
they're like now they're they're brutal now to the opposite
extreme of like coming in and saying like, is it
okay if I touch your hand, let me show you
what you're gonna get done? When you get this IV
and they pull out like this IV and they show
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them exactly what they're doing and stuff.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
And I'm like, that's more traumatizing.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
That's what I think too. I was more like on
the lines that get the gorilla to lay down on
her and just stick the needle in.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
But when I got the Epidora, I was like, do
not show me anything, do not tell me what is happening,
Just do it, Like I don't want to know anything.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Just do it.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Like some of the shit they do.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Now, I'm just kind of like, this is not even helpful,
Like if you show any child a needle or not
going to like it doesn't matter what tone of voice
you talk whatever. So, I mean, dealing with kids sometimes
is just difficult in general. I mean, Nick was clearly
a difficult patient. He did not want that done. But
now it's like you see you get older. He's forty
(46:29):
years old and like still scared the death of doctors
and stuff like. That's that's terrible.
Speaker 3 (46:34):
Listen, I understand. And I didn't read this before we
started recording, so I didn't know where it was going
with the Gorilla. I was not prepared for that when
I got I got an endoscope at the end of
twenty twenty, and I remember because I had really bad needlephobia.
So I remember in therapy, my therapist was like something
that happ helps sometimes is like vocalizing it and then
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it makes it like less scary in your brain whatever.
So I remember it was like the first doctor thing
I had after that. So like I'm like getting I.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Can't stop thinking.
Speaker 3 (47:08):
I just.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Keep thinking about like like a person in a gorilla costume,
like coming through the door, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Like I have this visual of like, well, you know,
that's abuse.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
That's like child abuse. That's like Lillian's thirteen. I can't
imagine like like saying like that. It's so mean.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
It's making me think of that year we went to
the Cheaper Nutcracker.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Yes, that was so weird, and they were like, hey,
pulled out a gorilla. Hey, we have this random gorilla
costume in the back. Why not put it to use.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
They're like the dancer didn't fit in the soldier costume,
like the toy. Maybe maybe one.
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Of the soldiers called out and they were like, okay,
like all we have is this gorilla. So I go
for the.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Doscoban and she's like, I'm gonna put your iv in
and then I was like, okay, I just want to vocalist,
like I pass out sometimes when I get here. So
she goes, oh, Tody's my first day of work is
a nerd like of course. And then when I woke
up from the anesthesia, they were like, you keep talking
about a beautiful friend dressure because I guess I've had
a tattoo on my leg and I think somebody said something,
(48:13):
you know, when you're on like the anesthesia high Yes, whatever,
All right, let's let's move on. I'm sorry we laughed
at you, but you kind of deserved it with sharing
the gorilla part of the story. I'm sorry that happened
to you. Oh my god. All right. Next is from
another regular listener and YouTube Liver Braylan. She said, my
sister's too cool and busy in the er to ask herself,
(48:35):
but she had a great question. She is wondering if
you could tell when bad versus good CPR is performed
during autopsy. She has watched some questionable CPR. It is
very curious.
Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, I mean it, there's so many different factors at play.
I mean, ultimately, if they do CPR and they're able
to keep the person alive, then you're you're just kind
of like, however hard they have to do it. I
think it's unreasonable to say that you that you shouldn't
be breaking a person's ribs if you're doing it correctly,
(49:07):
because while that can be true older people, I mean,
sometimes they have osteoporos is so bad you could break
their ribs very very easily because they're just hollow essentially,
and and any people with any other kind of bone
condition like that, especially like I said, older people, So yeah,
(49:30):
I mean I would say in general, though, yes, there's
times that you that I've done the autopsy and it's
like their chest plate is like really broken all over
the place, and you're kind of like, okay, was that necessary?
Like you know, and obviously they're dead, so maybe you
know it was necessary, But there's documented cases of CPR
(49:53):
killing people. I mean, if you break a rib, it's
then you have a sharp, jagged object in the abdomen
that you're pushing into the liver that you could lacerate
the liver and cause an internal bleed. So there are
documented cases of that happening. And another thing too is
that there's there's underlying medical conditions that could cause the
(50:15):
liver to be enlarge, like a fatty liver or something
could be double the size, or or someone that has
you know, chronic passive congestion or something like that, like
their liver could be enlarged. So that only increased the
risk too. So it's like a multi factorial thing. But
I would say in general, yeah, like I mean one,
(50:36):
I feel like maybe you should see like one or two.
But sometimes there's just like massive bleeding and hemorrhage and
and lots of spots that are broken.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
All right, the asses from Andrea. This is one of
many Weed story submissions we got, so we will read
some more on next week's episode. But they are good guys.
Keep writing them into us because they're awesome, all right,
Andrea says My one experience with eating any amount of
weed was this one time I ate a very small
cookie that my friend's sister made, who never smoked, drank,
did anything. I had the smallest cookie, but I thought
(51:08):
I was going to die so much that I literally
put five bowls of water and five bowls of food
out for my dog so we would survive until someone
found my dead body. I will never touch that ever again.
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
It is great, It's true, right, And in the moment,
like she could probably look back and just be like okay,
Like if you look back, you'd be like, okay, if
you really thought you were going to die, like why
didn't you call nine one? Want to go to the hospital?
Like in the In the moment though, she like was
just like okay, like I'm definitely going to die here,
(51:44):
and like let me do this and put this out
because that made sense at the time. It just shows
you how out of your mind you are on it
like that, Like it's just that's That's how I don't
know how to describe it other than like.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
It.
Speaker 2 (51:58):
I guess it's what's somebody considers to be like a
bad trip or something like I just it was just
a weird It was a weird thing.
Speaker 3 (52:06):
I think just some people, like I think you and
Amy talked about it best, like some people just have
the chemistry and their body that it doesn't work, and
some people it just doesn't bother at all. So it's
it's like scary if you're one of those people and
you don't know it.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
I could have sworn that night that I split the
cookie with one of my friends or something. Yeah, and
and she got messed up from it too, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (52:32):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
So it was like but but like when you're when
you're having those things, the doses is like, eh, you know,
like if you you ever like bake something and maybe
you like there'res it's not mixed well, and there's like
baking sowed in one part of it or something that
you could taste like, it's the same kind of thing, right,
it's not even.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Like I even questioned the dispensary edibles and I feel
like with candy you could probably make it more even.
But if you get like pastries, like there's just no
way it is perfectly even unless you're testing the individual pastry,
which how.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, it's just I don't know, like I'm against it
but people, I'm glad to see all these stories that
like other because a lot of people I feel like,
I feel like there's not a ton of people that
actually talk about like the horrible things that have happened
to them on it, you know, like you just don't
hear about it that much.
Speaker 3 (53:27):
No, And I think a lot of it is people
don't want to accept that it's not as safe as
they think it is. And it's like this is not
the weed of the seventies we're talking about, like it
has been so chemically altered over the years. Of course
it's gonna be different. Yeah, all right, Well, if you
guys have weed stories, we love to hear them. I
think everybody thinks you're great. Nick. We're so sorry. We
(53:47):
have to figure.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, nobody's setting us omissions anymore because they don't want
to make fun of them.
Speaker 3 (53:53):
He's gonna email us after. We're so sorry. All right, guys,
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This is actually like I I like this sweatshirt because
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I have like a weird thing with like textures. Oh
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(55:41):
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