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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about sex scenes in filmmaking, including prosthetic
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genitals and some real medical conditions associated with them. Then
we're going to get into a disturbing true crime story
involving a pediatrician who is accused of killing her own child.
Then a shocking new study about a dangerous side effect
of tattooing that seems to be much more prevalent than
initially thought, and we'll finish up talking about a new
(00:50):
product that will allow you to listen to your loved
ones playlist after they die. All that and more on
today's episode. Synthetic prosthetic buttholes? Please? What is that? So?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Last year Amanda Seifrom was filming this movie called Testament
of Annelee, and then she revealed during a nude scene
and she not only wore a fake mrk in aka
a fake bush, but also wore a prosthetic butthole.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah. Like, I tried to google what this would look
like and I couldn't find it, So I guess this
is not It's not just like a super common product
that people could just buy. Why like, why why did
she need to show her actual anus while filming a movie.
(01:42):
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I guess it was like they were trying to make
the scenes pretty gruesome. I haven't seen this film, but
she was saying that ironically, she felt so free because
I guess at the time of filming that she was
pregnant had to technically be naked, but she was covered
up on all her parts, so it was relieving for her.
But it's a weird prosthetic to have.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know. I was thinking that it just seems
very unnecessary. I just was thinking, like, when would there
ever be a situation that that anus would be visible
in like a regular movie that you would see in
the theater.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, I watched this movie. I don't even want to
say I watch it and I don't even know what
it was called. Rickie made me watch this movie last year.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Who is in it?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I feel like Kurt Russell was in it and this
like crazy tribe cut this guy's body in half at
the butthole.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was like, I walked into.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
My living room and this movie was I was like,
what is this movie? Like they had this man hung
upside down and they cut his body in half at
the buttle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was insane. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
In that case, I thought maybe they'd need the prosthetic.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, and you know Nissi Nash, Yeah from Reno nine
one one hurt button that was fake apparently like people wear.
I don't know, I just thought her, but I like
one of my friends has a butt like that. I
just thought it was her. But I don't know. But
there's like people wear fake boobs, people wear fake nipples,
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and I think fake penis is like the biggest one.
Like so many of them wear a prosthetic penis, which
is just like I kind of get it, because if
you have to be naked in the scene, there has
to be like some parts of you that you just
want to keep to yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, also, do you think if it's like, like the
next word we're going to talk about is like about
this incident with Bridgerton. But in that case, they were saying,
like this scene in particular took six to seven hours
to film. So do you think if you're filming a
scene like that where you need to have like a
visible erection that would call for a prosthetic because like,
how are you gonna stay in that state? And also
(03:50):
I'm sure it's massively uncomfortable to be in that state
for a long period of time.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, I just think that. I mean some people it
you know, you've heard the term like you're a grower
or you're a shower. Like some men like their penis
is like very small looking unless it's erect, and then
it looks like to be an average size. So I'm
sure if there was any actor that was like perfectly
(04:16):
well hung, that they would more than be willing to
show it off and be like this is my natural shit, Like,
look at it. It looks good. Yeah what I mean?
So I think that, But like men get judged on
their their penis. That's why we were just talking about
it on the last episode from yesterday, you know, Like
so unless it was like really bigger than average, I
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feel like a guy might just be like, you know what,
I'm going to leave that up to the imagination. I
just don't really understand the need for the prosthetic butthole.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But maybe this is good advertising because I feel like
I have to watch the movie now to understand it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I really would like to see it too, So
all right, So speaking of the prosthetics, what so I
didn't really realize that there was like intimacy where the
actors wore. So they're filming some kind of a sex
scene in a hot tub. Is so she's wearing like
something to make her look naked, maybe, but she's not
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really naked.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't think they're wearing like a suit. I think
they're wearing like tape over their probably. First of all,
they weren't filming a hot tub because this is in
Bridgerton and had set in like the eighteen hundred, so
it's not a hot tub. It was just a bathtub
sex scene they were filming. But they were filming for
six to seven hours. Both the actors had to be
nude in the tub. I guess as part of the
intimacy scenes they have to wear this like tape covering
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their genitals, but they have to mostly be naked. So
in this case, they were filming the scene. It just
came out a couple of days ago on Netflix. But
the actress Yarin Ha, she plays Sophie in this latest
season of Bridgerton. She's saying that while they were filming
the scene, she developed fullylitis and admitted it was her
(06:02):
fault because she said she put baby powder all over
her because she was told it would help dry my
skin to put the intimacy wear on with the tape.
And then she said, basically the next day after the bathtub,
I got hives all over my body and needed steroid cream.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So they just like put a piece of painter's tape
over their their VADs crack or something like how does
that work?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well? Because she was submerged in water, she probably, yeah,
like wore some form of like underwear or shorts maybe
if those weren't seen. But yeah, I do wonder with
the scenes where they are fully nude and it's showing
like them having sex like fully where you think they're
both fully naked. I remember I remember hearing a story
(06:45):
of Anna pack When and what the.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What the hell is his name?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Anna pack When, and the guy that plays Bill on
True Blood they were dating in real life at some
point after the show started, and they were like, oh, well,
it was so weird to film sex scenes because we
were having sex in real life, and like, I guess
they had to put like a sock over him when
they like they put a sock over the guy's genitals,
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so nothing's touching.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But then she was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That was weird because they were having sex in real life.
I don't know the whole the whole thing of like
filming sex scenes is so weird to me, it really is.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And I've been thinking about that with like the Weathering
Heights movie, like just and I haven't seen it, but
the clips, like I'm just like, I'm sorry, but I
don't understand how you could be in a relationship with
someone and be okay with like that that like the
kissing and the and the like. It's just like a lot.
It's just like a very weird thing. To disconnect from
(07:46):
the Weathering.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I saw Weathering Heights and it wasn't I feel like
the trailer made it much more smutty than I mean,
the movie was very sexual, but it wasn't even as
bad as Bridgerton where they're like straight up like skinned
to skin in some scenes. I mean, it was kind
of like glorified triumph to some extent, like they seem
they seem mostly clothes or they covered them enough where
I don't think it was so much of an issue.
(08:07):
But yeah, I think it's just maybe an understandment you
have with your significant other that like this is my job.
I'm doing it for my job. But then I think
sometimes the lines do get crossed and people do start
having affairs because the chemistry is off the hook.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean I get I get it to an extent
because it's like you're looking at it with like certain
lighting and it looks like the two of them alone
in a room, and like in reality, there's like lots
of people standing around watching it, so it's like not
as hot. I guess it doesn't really look like that
when you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And there's like supposed to be an intimacy coordinator on
set that's dealing with it to make sure nobody's like
uncomfortable or crossing any lines.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
So yeah, who get that job? By the way, it's
very weird. It's just very just paid. You just get
paid to like watch people like fake have sex all day.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I feel like it's a newer position design too, obviously,
because there have been incidents on sets. So this is
like HR's way of checking the box. Like we did
a weird supposed to and the person was there. But
then that's like the weirdest job ever.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Really, like like you okay, like what like what are
your qualifications for that, and are you like coaching people
on what's appropriate like noises and moss making and movements
and everything. I think it's really weird. We need to
hear from somebody that does this for work. I know,
I'm kind of jealous. I would like to have that job,
(09:35):
all right. So, so anyway, folliculitis is inflammation of the
hair follicle. So she was in the perfect situation for
that because it was a hot bath. There's actually a
certain kind of folliculitis that you could get in a
hot tup. I think it, Like, I know that it
wasn't supposed it was a hot tub though they were
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like in hot water. It might have been like not,
I know that they weren't around for that time, but like, yeah,
it was filmed in a hot like a hot tub situation.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying now, Like the scene
itself presents as if they're in an old timey bathtub,
but you're saying like, in real life, yeah, they were
in a hot to understand that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, So there's certain bacteria called pseudomonas that grows in
hot tubs, so you could get a specific folliculatus just
from that particular bacteria. But it's just so like if
it's not chlorinated correctly, which is I would feel it
should be if they're making them sit in there for
that long, but that it's just it's a long time
to be submersed in warm water like that. It's you're
(10:38):
gonna get Like I would be more scared to get
like a yeast infection, honestly or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This scene was like two minutes long. I just finished
watching it on Saturday and.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
They said it took six to seven hours to film it, like.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, and I'm kind of like, why is that necessary?
Because they should have done the light blocking beforehand, and
they could have done that with fully clothed people with
a drained tub. They didn't even need the water, Like really,
they could have just waited until they were one hundred
percent ready with everything to go and then had them
go in the water. And I could see it maybe
(11:10):
taking one to two hours with like multiple takes, but
nothing I watched about it was like, Wow, this totally
needed to take seven hours to film. Yeah, it was
to win an award for that scene. No, I mean
this show, this show is written about the series of books,
and it is quickly tanking the creative liberties that Netflix
(11:32):
has taken doing this show. Oh my god, it is
getting so bad.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well whatever, I don't know what it is, but so
she was kind of in a perfect environment for it.
And then plus when you're like clogging, So if she
is putting this tape for this intimacy wear near her badge,
which I'm assuming that's what she's covering, there's a high
probability that she might have shaved before that. Like she said, like,
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it's a perfect environment, shave before that, put tape on it,
which is another irritant. Plus it's blocking the follicles, the
powder like all whatever she did, but it was to
the point where she had to get steroids. Like it
was a sizeable rush that she had the tree and
I mean, she'll be fine or whatever. It's just it's
(12:21):
kind of gross. I kind of skive. Like we have
one that's like a hot tub that's attached to the pool,
but it's not really one that like like I don't know,
it's just easier to drain and there's and it's got
has the salt chlorination in it, you know, So it's
just like a little bit different, those free standing ones
that the water just sits in it all the time.
(12:42):
It's just kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's kind of gross. And it's like I understand this
is like part of filming the scene and everything, but
you have to be like naked and wet on somebody
for like seven hours. It's just like that's kind of gross,
saying like I just can't imagine that, Like you don't
get turned on by it, you know what I mean?
Like I just I like and I believe like you
(13:08):
might have an actor that you're with that you're like,
this guy is so gross, Like I'm not turned on
by it, but like it has to happen that sometimes
you're like, oh my god, this guy's kind of hot,
and like like Margot Robbie, I'm sorry, like she had
to think that he was hot, Like there's there's no
way around that. Well, especially after seeing her husband.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm like like, I'm just and her husband's like her
husband's like a good looking guy too, but I'm just
kind of like like I'm just like this guy is
like is like what do you call a thirst trap?
Like like of course you're gonna be like like I'm sorry,
Like if you if you said to me, go make
out with him right now, I'd be like, Okay, this
(13:47):
is this is terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, of course there's like pervs on set and everything too,
but like what happens if it's just like a result
of the friction, even if you have all the proper
garments on, I mean, the movement alone could just make
people get turned off. I don't know, it's like kissing
people like that like that, Like I don't know, you
just must have to be so comfortable with it, because
(14:11):
like I don't know people are. I mean, like I
actually know someone who knows someone that like they their
significant other did porn for like a career and they
were totally like in a relationship with them and stuff
like I can't imagine it, but.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Like people do it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It has to just be an agreement you have when
you're with somebody in that profession, like this is my
job and like it happens, don't watch.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It if you don't like it. I don't know what
to say. And I mean, like, especially to Margo Robbie's defense,
it's just kind of like if she says to her husband,
like listen, I'm bringing home thirty million dollars tomorrow because
of this, then he might be like, all right, just do.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It, because then there was all that criticism with the
way they're promoting the movie too, that they were like
having like an inappropriate relationship. But I think that's just
part of the marketing. We saw with Glenn Palin Sidney
Sweeney that terrible rom com they made a couple of
years ago, and then we saw with Pamela Anderson and
Liam Neeson where they said they were in a relationship
which ended up being faked.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I still don't. I don't still I still don't believe that.
I was I was like, really, I was like rooting
for that one.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But they're seeing in pr that this is a really
good method to have people going.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You don't believe that one's not real. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I feel like it came out that they went
on like one date.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And I was so happy about that. I know it's
it was a bumber because they both like, it's not
the same as like the Margot Robbie situation. I don't know,
does he have a girlfriend the Jacob guy?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, you know who he's on and off with. Is
Aunt Laurie's daughter from Full House or wait, like Laurie
la oh not Aunt Laurie, Like, what is her name?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, get your characters. I hate full House, So that's why. Wait,
aunt Becky's real daughter in real.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Life, Becky's real daughter that she went to jail for
faking her rowing pictures in the USC he is on
and off with Olivia Jade.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Oh okay, I didn't even know what her name was. Well,
like that would just be different because she had she
just had a baby, and Margot Robbie just like had
a baby and stuff, So that would be like a
cheating situation. So I wouldn't be for that. But I
was more. I was for for sure for Pamela Anderson
like that, that just seemed like a perfect match, especially
(16:28):
because Liam Nielsen lost. Uh what the hell is her name?
Why can't I think of her name? Yeah? So speaking
of another nineties good show, The Parent Trap. But yeah,
so that that one just made me happy. So I
was bummed.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I saw a picture a friend dresser and the actress
that plays Chessie in The Parent Trap, and I was
going to repost it and put the women that raised
because I love those two, and I like lost a
picture and then forgot about it. Also side note to
my fellow pregs, don't go see Wathering Heights, Like, wait.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The laughter there's a scene I wasn't prepared for. And yeah,
everybody's saying like it's so it's so bad, Like is
it worse than The Notebook?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
First of all, The Notebook is a great movie, and
Weathering Heights I thought was great. Like if you accept
that it's just like a weird, campy movie, it's fine.
It's not going to be the Book. Like I just
saw that Netflix is remaking Pride and Prejudice and I'm
conflicted because I think the movie from two thousand and
four two thousand and five is like one of the
most perfect movies ever made. So I'm like, how is
(17:39):
how are they gonna remake this?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, but I'll watch it so I feel like, because
you know, Jacob Allardi was the Frankenstein in the most
horrible adaptation of that book ever.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They kept playing clips so that at the SAG Awards
or the Actor Awards whatever they rebranded it to and
it looks so terrible.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It was so bad. It's so so bad, and so
he must like to be in movies that are like
based on really good old books. That are totally nothing
like the good old books, like the New Frankets Side
movie is like loosely based on what really happened in
the book. It like it's very a loose interpretation.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I would say, like I never read The Withering Heights book,
and I know it's very different this movie, but I
enjoyed it. Like I thought, the costumes, it's not period accurate,
and I think that's what's pissing people off. And it's
not one hundred percent accurate to the story, but I
enjoyed watching it. If you just accept that it's inspired
by or whatever. Maybe that's why the title is in quotes.
(18:37):
Everybody thought maybe going in it wasn't going to be
exact because the titles in quotes, so it's not exactly
like it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I like that director Emerald I forget her last name.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, I like her art style, Like I mean, I've
never saw the movie, but the clips, like I see
what she's doing and it's very artsy, and I like that.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Even though she played Camilla Parker Bulls in The Crown,
I can't forgive.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But whatever, I don't know, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I I'm always curious how they're gonna adapt these type
of movies. I thought, for today, it was cool to see.
I think you'll really like the costumes and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But some people said it was the worst movie they
ever saw.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I guess in.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Your I've I've heard many people say that Notebook was
a horrible movie.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But is that what you're saying? No, I want a
saw horsible of sadness. No, Cami Alle told me never
to watch it. Oh so you're just she told me
it's so sad and terrible. So I never watched it
because oh yeah, I don't. I don't want to watch
something that's sad like that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I thought you just meant it was like a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like no, no, no, I heard it was really good. No,
it's really good. But yeah, you can't handle it, like yeah,
like I just don't want to bomb.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Whenever it's even on TV, I'm like, I can't think
about it. It really upsets me. And yeah, I mean
I cried really bad at Wuthering Heights, but like I'm
a crier in general, and I'm pregnant right now, so
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Could have happened in any situation.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
All right, let's talk about pediatricians who kill children.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So this pediatrician is being charged in her daughter's death
after she claimed she found her daughter in the bottom
of the pool, only for evidence to suggest that she
staged the scene.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, so they they replayed the nine one one call
or the transcript of it at least, and the mom
called I guess they were I don't know if they
were visiting someone or they were on a vacation, but
they were at a rental like an airbnb type of
house in Miami. And she called police and said, or
call you know, called nine one one and said, oh,
(21:36):
the kids in the bottom of the pool. My daughter
is in the bottom of the pool. So the nine
one one operator is just like, all right, we'll jump
in there and get her out. Like you should see
the conversation with the nine one one operator.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's the transcript of the call is outrageous.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's so outrageous. So so she's like, oh, I don't
know how to swim, and the nine one one operator
is just like, okay, can you find a stick like
the stick they used to clean the pool, like find
something and try to get her out. And then she's
like trying to ask her what the depth of the
water she's in. She's like, is she in the three
foot part or like the six foot part? And the
lady's like, I don't know, I guess it's the nine
foot part. And like meanwhile, the cops and the AMT
(22:15):
and ams and stuff were on the way, but like
in that time period, she was like not even attempting
to get the kid out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, And her excuse was like I can't swim, Like
I'm thinking, like I'm about to be a mom, You're
a mom, like I would do anything.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, you don't. Even a normal mother doesn't even think
about that. And actually I believe we had a case.
I'm just thinking about this so I haven't looked it
up prior, but like we had a case on Mother
No's death since we've been a show that there was
a situation where a family found like I think it
was like a grandpap and a kid in the pool
(22:51):
because apparently the kid fell in the pool and the
instinct of the grandparent was like jump in and try
to get the kid, and they were both found dead.
That's like that's what you would expect to see in
that situation, yes, because like like, well, I've already determined
she's dead, so this isn't my problem, Like that's the
way it was coming off. Yeah, It's it's really really bizarre.
So so anyway, they they the ems finally show up
(23:14):
and they get the kid out of the pool and
the kid the kid ends up dying. The kid's dead,
and they do the autopsy on the kid, and the
kid has no signs of ever being alive in water.
There's no water pulmonary edemon nothing in her lungs, no
signs that she drowned. So they were like she was
dead before before she even went into the pool, and
(23:35):
they believe that she was smothered to death. So and
there are specific things that they could see at autopsy
in that situation too. So we we did have a
post actually in the gross room this week of it's
called frown upside Down and it shows the dissection that
we could do on people that are smothered to death,
(23:56):
mainly to show that if you reflect the skin from
around them off of the skull, you could see that
underneath of the lips there's bruising, contusions, indentations from teeth.
And also when you're in the end stages of hypoxia
or having like a lack of oxygen, you could start
having a seizure and one of the symptoms of that
(24:17):
is to bite down on the tongue, so you will
see like impressions in the tongue as well. So that's
another thing that we would take out at autopsy, so
they think that that's what they saw, and they definitely
didn't see any evidence that she was like drowning and
fell in a pool.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I mean, don't you think that an educated doctor would
know that was gonna come up? Or do people really
just think smothering is hard to detect. Well, smothering is
sometimes hard to detect, but you can't substitute it for
putting them in a pool where it's easy to detect
if someone was in there. I mean, the nine one
(24:55):
one call alone is obviously a major red flag. Her
lack of like I pediatrician, like this person like went
to medical school and learned how to save people and
then specialized in pediatrics and learn how to save children.
Could you imagine like being just like listening to the
news and hearing your pediatrician is on the news for
(25:19):
killing their child.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I just can't even imagine it.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Especially if you brought your kid in and then she,
like God forbid, misdiagnosed them with something or didn't take
something serious. Right, you have to just think, like, oh,
all of a sudden, she just killed her own kid,
like she wasn't doing anything with other people's kids, or
like not caring or having nefarious intentions. I don't know,
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like you have to go there that they're in the
darkest place in their mind when they're treating your kid.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
If they could be as terrible as to kill their
own child. Yeah, it's just so messed up. So I
don't know what's gonna happen with this case. She went
back to Oklahoma after and that's that's normal because if
you're on vacation and your kid dies and it appears
to be accidental, because like that's what it appeared to be,
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even though she didn't help it. It appeared that the
kid went there. She went home, and then when they
the autopsy was done, they were like, hey, you're coming back,
Like this is what's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Like they brought her back to Miami on a murder charge,
and then it got switched to a manslaughter charge, and
then it again got switched back to a second degree
murder charge.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, I guess just the further investigation what it's showing,
because I'm sure they're going to do toxicology to see
like was she drugged, like something else happened before she
got into the water. That's all they know. She got
into the water when she was already not breathing on
her own basically, So like whatever the investigation unravels with that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, totally. And they're saying she's gonna she doesn't have bond.
Thank god, this is the case. I think this is
very appropriate, and she's gonna stay in jail until she
awaits her trial.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah. Well, well on top of that, if we hear
anything about that, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So a new report came out that dozens of Australians
were diagnosed with a rare tattoo related vision loss. So
can you explain this some more? So?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Basically what happened was there's been people that have been
complaining about this symptom of uvi iitis, which is an
inflammation of the eye, and they decided that they were
going to do a study on this to see what
was causing it because they were having a decent amount
of cases of it. And it's a progressive inflammation of
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the eye that could lead to glaucoma, it could lead
to permanent vision loss if it doesn't get treated, and
it requires an immunosuppressant, usually a drug called methotrex eate,
which is like not really a drug that you want
to take for the rest of your life if you
don't have to, because it's not a benign drug for sure.
So this study was published in a journal called Clinical
(27:58):
and Experimental Ophthalmology in January twenty twenty six, so it
was a recent paper and it was titled Tattoo associated
uv ititis and Emerging Ie Health Challenge. And in the study,
so they had said already in Australia that tattooing has
gone up significantly over the past years and as of
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twenty twenty two, they think that twenty five percent of
the population has at least one tattoo, which is a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So they were checking all of these eye treatments that
have been going on at different clinics throughout the country
and seeing these people that were diagnosed with this uv
ititis and then they found that they had tattoos and
they wanted to see what the correlation was. So some
of the people that had tattoos, a lot of them
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actually that were in this particular study, had inflammation at
the tattoo site. So you anyone that's listening to me,
you have tattoos, I have tattoos, Like you know when
your tattoo becomes like raised and it's like kind of
angry and itchy. So that was happening with these people,
and they've determined that it's it's almost a delayed like
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a delayed allergic reaction in a sense. So not only
and most commonly people see it at the actual tattoo site,
but there are all these other weird things that could happen.
I think at crime Con two years ago, we talked
about olymphoma associated with tattooing. So there's all these different
other rare events that could happen. And now this one
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is that this immune response could start affecting your eyes
as well. And so I mean, it's really scary, and
they've they've pinpointed it almost to black ink. Yeah, I
think they said in some cases there was notes of
pink or red, but it's mostly black ink. And then
I guess what's scary for me is this isn't something
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that presents immediately. Instead, in most of the cases it
presents a year or two later, but there are some
reported cases where it should up thirty five years later. Yeah,
I mean, and that's it's it's just called it's called
a delayed hypersensitivity reaction. So it's it's just like basically
like a delayed allergy, like your your body. You know,
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typically like if you get stung by a bee or
you have something you're allergic to, you have a hive
or something right away, like it bothers you, And this
is like no, it could stay around for a while
and then your immune system could start freaking out about it.
So there's still a lot more that needs to be
studied with this to say that there's a definite correlation.
And uh, like one of the things that's hard to
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determine is because when you get tattooed, it's not very regulated,
so like everybody's not using the same exact inc that's
made of the same exact components. So there's just like
all these other factors that need to go into studying it.
But I would be interested if in bigger countries, other
countries like America or somewhere in UK are also seeing
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this as well.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, all right, Spotify and Liquid Death have partnered up
to create an eternal playlist. Earn.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's kind of a good idea.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think this is really awesome if you have somebody
in your life that's a huge music lover, because it's
kind of this cool way that you can you know,
I guess let me describe it first. So it's this
speaker that's in the shape of an urn, so you
can put ashes in it, and then either before somebody
dies or I guess after, they have this eternal playlist
generator where you could answer a series of questions about
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what you want your vibe to be after death, and
it mixes that with the listening history to create this
playlist that you could then sync to this earn. So
I think the marketing for this is hilarious. It's saying
research shows if you keep the dead happy, they're less
likely to haunt you by forty seven percent, which I
think is.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Kind of funny. But it's a cool way to honor
somebody in your life that really loves music. Yeah, I
think it's cool too. I think my only concern is,
like with any technology, now, like that thing's gonna stop
working in six months and then you got this like
ugly plastic looking eurn, right, Yeah. I besides that if
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it actually works, and how long is it going to last?
Because you know, just like things like that are just
kind of they don't last as long as they used to,
you know, yeah, I wonder how long it lasts.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I mean, this thing is five hundred dollars and it's
sold out already, so are they gonna make more?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Listen, a regular earn is probably that much money too,
if you get it from the funeral home. They cost
so much money they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like you still get a nice balls at home good
home goods exactly, Like that's what I would do too,
but because they when you go to the funeral home,
it's like they take advantage of you when you're at
your worst time and they're like, oh, let me upsell
this you know thing.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's made of copper and it's engraved and blah blah blah.
John will tell you what she was talking about it
with remember with her dad, Like her mom got the
big one and her and her brother got like smaller ones. Yeah,
and it was like a ta It was like a
ton of money exactly. So I don't know. I just
think it's like and this one's like a speaker too,
like it does something. It's not just a jar.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, so you could like listen to it, or you
could just have it as a nice memorial to your
loved one or whatever. I think this is a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, now that you're putting that in prospective, I mean
I feel like we could have a whole episode about
people taking care of people taking advantage of grieving people, right, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I don't know. I'm for it. I think I
don't think five hundred dollars is that outrageous. I mean
it it is if it if it's like a decent speaker,
And I mean you also could just kind of probably
make it yourself if you really wanted to, Like, can't
you just sink a Spotify list up to a speaker?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, yeah you could probably. I mean this is definitely
gonna inspire some type of like copycat design. But I
think it's a there's coming on Amazon in like two
months that's gonna be nineteen ninety five and.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Work for five minutes. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Seriously, Yeah, I like this idea. Of course, there's gonna
be some people that are like pissy about it because
they think it's like inappropriate, And then there's gonna be
people that just want to buy it to have an
earned decoration in their house without any dead person associated
with it. So I applaud them for going outside the box.
We don't often see new products that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Are like mind blowing. I think if Spotify wants to
send me one, I would take it and put it
on display. If Spotify for a future guest or Liquid
Death or Liquid Death, yeah, I mean, come on, this
is like Mother Knows Death. It would be perfect absolutely
all right, guys, Well, our event is coming up in
a couple of weeks for the Center for Forensic Science
(34:54):
Research and Education on April tenth and eleventh in Horsham, Pennsylvania.
We are going to have such a good time doing
a live show and you're gonna do a lecture. Yeah,
it's gonna be great, and mine's gonna be like relevant
to homicides and deaths and just all the different kinds
of ways people could die. But how we're trying to
keep it a little bit more like science based but
(35:18):
educational at the same time, so see like what we
do in our actual profession when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So you're gonna have that, and then there's gonna be
some guest speakers as well. And don't forget, if you
were a grocery member, you were going to get a
pretty hefty discount on tickets. And we are gonna have
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nos Death. As a reminder, my training is as a
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about sex scenes in filmmaking, including prosthetic
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genitals and some real medical conditions associated with them. Then
we're going to get into a disturbing true crime story
involving a pediatrician who is accused of killing her own child.
Then a shocking new study about a dangerous side effect
of tattooing that seems to be much more prevalent than
initially thought, and we'll finish up talking about a new
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product that will allow you to listen to your loved
ones playlist after they die. All that and more on
today's episode. Synthetic prosthetic buttholes? Please? What is that? So?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Last year Amanda Seifrom was filming this movie called Testament
of Annelee, and then she revealed during a nude scene
and she not only wore a fake mrk in aka
a fake bush, but also wore a prosthetic butthole.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah. Like, I tried to google what this would look
like and I couldn't find it, So I guess this
is not It's not just like a super common product
that people could just buy. Why like, why why did
she need to show her actual anus while filming a movie.
(01:42):
I really don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I guess it was like they were trying to make
the scenes pretty gruesome. I haven't seen this film, but
she was saying that ironically, she felt so free because
I guess at the time of filming that she was
pregnant had to technically be naked, but she was covered
up on all her parts, so it was relieving for her.
But it's a weird prosthetic to have.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know. I was thinking that it just seems
very unnecessary. I just was thinking, like, when would there
ever be a situation that that anus would be visible
in like a regular movie that you would see in
the theater.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, I watched this movie. I don't even want to
say I watch it and I don't even know what
it was called. Rickie made me watch this movie last year.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Who is in it?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I feel like Kurt Russell was in it and this
like crazy tribe cut this guy's body in half at
the butthole.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I was like, I walked into.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
My living room and this movie was I was like,
what is this movie? Like they had this man hung
upside down and they cut his body in half at
the buttle.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It was insane. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
In that case, I thought maybe they'd need the prosthetic.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, and you know Nissi Nash, Yeah from Reno nine
one one hurt button that was fake apparently like people wear.
I don't know, I just thought her, but I like
one of my friends has a butt like that. I
just thought it was her. But I don't know. But
there's like people wear fake boobs, people wear fake nipples,
(03:14):
and I think fake penis is like the biggest one.
Like so many of them wear a prosthetic penis, which
is just like I kind of get it, because if
you have to be naked in the scene, there has
to be like some parts of you that you just
want to keep to yourself.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, also, do you think if it's like, like the
next word we're going to talk about is like about
this incident with Bridgerton. But in that case, they were saying,
like this scene in particular took six to seven hours
to film. So do you think if you're filming a
scene like that where you need to have like a
visible erection that would call for a prosthetic because like,
how are you gonna stay in that state? And also
(03:50):
I'm sure it's massively uncomfortable to be in that state
for a long period of time.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, I just think that. I mean some people it
you know, you've heard the term like you're a grower
or you're a shower. Like some men like their penis
is like very small looking unless it's erect, and then
it looks like to be an average size. So I'm
sure if there was any actor that was like perfectly
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well hung, that they would more than be willing to
show it off and be like this is my natural shit, Like,
look at it. It looks good. Yeah what I mean?
So I think that, But like men get judged on
their their penis. That's why we were just talking about
it on the last episode from yesterday, you know, Like
so unless it was like really bigger than average, I
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feel like a guy might just be like, you know what,
I'm going to leave that up to the imagination. I
just don't really understand the need for the prosthetic butthole.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But maybe this is good advertising because I feel like
I have to watch the movie now to understand it.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, I really would like to see it too, So
all right, So speaking of the prosthetics, what so I
didn't really realize that there was like intimacy where the
actors wore. So they're filming some kind of a sex
scene in a hot tub. Is so she's wearing like
something to make her look naked, maybe, but she's not
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really naked.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I don't think they're wearing like a suit. I think
they're wearing like tape over their probably. First of all,
they weren't filming a hot tub because this is in
Bridgerton and had set in like the eighteen hundred, so
it's not a hot tub. It was just a bathtub
sex scene they were filming. But they were filming for
six to seven hours. Both the actors had to be
nude in the tub. I guess as part of the
intimacy scenes they have to wear this like tape covering
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their genitals, but they have to mostly be naked. So
in this case, they were filming the scene. It just
came out a couple of days ago on Netflix. But
the actress Yarin Ha, she plays Sophie in this latest
season of Bridgerton. She's saying that while they were filming
the scene, she developed fullylitis and admitted it was her
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fault because she said she put baby powder all over
her because she was told it would help dry my
skin to put the intimacy wear on with the tape.
And then she said, basically the next day after the bathtub,
I got hives all over my body and needed steroid cream.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So they just like put a piece of painter's tape
over their their VADs crack or something like how does
that work?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well? Because she was submerged in water, she probably, yeah,
like wore some form of like underwear or shorts maybe
if those weren't seen. But yeah, I do wonder with
the scenes where they are fully nude and it's showing
like them having sex like fully where you think they're
both fully naked. I remember I remember hearing a story
(06:45):
of Anna pack When and what the.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
What the hell is his name?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Anna pack When, and the guy that plays Bill on
True Blood they were dating in real life at some
point after the show started, and they were like, oh, well,
it was so weird to film sex scenes because we
were having sex in real life, and like, I guess
they had to put like a sock over him when
they like they put a sock over the guy's genitals,
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so nothing's touching.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
But then she was saying.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That was weird because they were having sex in real life.
I don't know the whole the whole thing of like
filming sex scenes is so weird to me, it really is.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
And I've been thinking about that with like the Weathering
Heights movie, like just and I haven't seen it, but
the clips, like I'm just like, I'm sorry, but I
don't understand how you could be in a relationship with
someone and be okay with like that that like the
kissing and the and the like. It's just like a lot.
It's just like a very weird thing. To disconnect from
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the Weathering.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I saw Weathering Heights and it wasn't I feel like
the trailer made it much more smutty than I mean,
the movie was very sexual, but it wasn't even as
bad as Bridgerton where they're like straight up like skinned
to skin in some scenes. I mean, it was kind
of like glorified triumph to some extent, like they seem
they seem mostly clothes or they covered them enough where
I don't think it was so much of an issue.
(08:07):
But yeah, I think it's just maybe an understandment you
have with your significant other that like this is my job.
I'm doing it for my job. But then I think
sometimes the lines do get crossed and people do start
having affairs because the chemistry is off the hook.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I mean I get I get it to an extent
because it's like you're looking at it with like certain
lighting and it looks like the two of them alone
in a room, and like in reality, there's like lots
of people standing around watching it, so it's like not
as hot. I guess it doesn't really look like that
when you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And there's like supposed to be an intimacy coordinator on
set that's dealing with it to make sure nobody's like
uncomfortable or crossing any lines.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
So yeah, who get that job? By the way, it's
very weird. It's just very just paid. You just get
paid to like watch people like fake have sex all day.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I feel like it's a newer position design too, obviously,
because there have been incidents on sets. So this is
like HR's way of checking the box. Like we did
a weird supposed to and the person was there. But
then that's like the weirdest job ever.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Really, like like you okay, like what like what are
your qualifications for that, and are you like coaching people
on what's appropriate like noises and moss making and movements
and everything. I think it's really weird. We need to
hear from somebody that does this for work. I know,
I'm kind of jealous. I would like to have that job,
(09:35):
all right. So, so anyway, folliculitis is inflammation of the
hair follicle. So she was in the perfect situation for
that because it was a hot bath. There's actually a
certain kind of folliculitis that you could get in a
hot tup. I think it, Like, I know that it
wasn't supposed it was a hot tub though they were
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like in hot water. It might have been like not,
I know that they weren't around for that time, but like, yeah,
it was filmed in a hot like a hot tub situation.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying now, Like the scene
itself presents as if they're in an old timey bathtub,
but you're saying like, in real life, yeah, they were
in a hot to understand that.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, So there's certain bacteria called pseudomonas that grows in
hot tubs, so you could get a specific folliculatus just
from that particular bacteria. But it's just so like if
it's not chlorinated correctly, which is I would feel it
should be if they're making them sit in there for
that long, but that it's just it's a long time
to be submersed in warm water like that. It's you're
(10:38):
gonna get Like I would be more scared to get
like a yeast infection, honestly or something like that.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
This scene was like two minutes long. I just finished
watching it on Saturday and.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
They said it took six to seven hours to film it, like.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, and I'm kind of like, why is that necessary?
Because they should have done the light blocking beforehand, and
they could have done that with fully clothed people with
a drained tub. They didn't even need the water, Like really,
they could have just waited until they were one hundred
percent ready with everything to go and then had them
go in the water. And I could see it maybe
(11:10):
taking one to two hours with like multiple takes, but
nothing I watched about it was like, Wow, this totally
needed to take seven hours to film. Yeah, it was
to win an award for that scene. No, I mean
this show, this show is written about the series of books,
and it is quickly tanking the creative liberties that Netflix
(11:32):
has taken doing this show. Oh my god, it is
getting so bad.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Well whatever, I don't know what it is, but so
she was kind of in a perfect environment for it.
And then plus when you're like clogging, So if she
is putting this tape for this intimacy wear near her badge,
which I'm assuming that's what she's covering, there's a high
probability that she might have shaved before that. Like she said, like,
(12:01):
it's a perfect environment, shave before that, put tape on it,
which is another irritant. Plus it's blocking the follicles, the
powder like all whatever she did, but it was to
the point where she had to get steroids. Like it
was a sizeable rush that she had the tree and
I mean, she'll be fine or whatever. It's just it's
(12:21):
kind of gross. I kind of skive. Like we have
one that's like a hot tub that's attached to the pool,
but it's not really one that like like I don't know,
it's just easier to drain and there's and it's got
has the salt chlorination in it, you know, So it's
just like a little bit different, those free standing ones
that the water just sits in it all the time.
(12:42):
It's just kind of gross.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's kind of gross. And it's like I understand this
is like part of filming the scene and everything, but
you have to be like naked and wet on somebody
for like seven hours. It's just like that's kind of gross,
saying like I just can't imagine that, Like you don't
get turned on by it, you know what I mean?
Like I just I like and I believe like you
(13:08):
might have an actor that you're with that you're like,
this guy is so gross, Like I'm not turned on
by it, but like it has to happen that sometimes
you're like, oh my god, this guy's kind of hot,
and like like Margot Robbie, I'm sorry, like she had
to think that he was hot, Like there's there's no
way around that. Well, especially after seeing her husband.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm like like, I'm just and her husband's like her
husband's like a good looking guy too, but I'm just
kind of like like I'm just like this guy is
like is like what do you call a thirst trap?
Like like of course you're gonna be like like I'm sorry,
Like if you if you said to me, go make
out with him right now, I'd be like, Okay, this
(13:47):
is this is terrible.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Well, of course there's like pervs on set and everything too,
but like what happens if it's just like a result
of the friction, even if you have all the proper
garments on, I mean, the movement alone could just make
people get turned off. I don't know, it's like kissing
people like that like that, Like I don't know, you
just must have to be so comfortable with it, because
(14:11):
like I don't know people are. I mean, like I
actually know someone who knows someone that like they their
significant other did porn for like a career and they
were totally like in a relationship with them and stuff
like I can't imagine it, but.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Like people do it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It has to just be an agreement you have when
you're with somebody in that profession, like this is my
job and like it happens, don't watch.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
It if you don't like it. I don't know what
to say. And I mean, like, especially to Margo Robbie's defense,
it's just kind of like if she says to her husband,
like listen, I'm bringing home thirty million dollars tomorrow because
of this, then he might be like, all right, just do.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
It, because then there was all that criticism with the
way they're promoting the movie too, that they were like
having like an inappropriate relationship. But I think that's just
part of the marketing. We saw with Glenn Palin Sidney
Sweeney that terrible rom com they made a couple of
years ago, and then we saw with Pamela Anderson and
Liam Neeson where they said they were in a relationship
which ended up being faked.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I still don't. I don't still I still don't believe that.
I was I was like, really, I was like rooting
for that one.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
But they're seeing in pr that this is a really
good method to have people going.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
You don't believe that one's not real. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I feel like it came out that they went
on like one date.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And I was so happy about that. I know it's
it was a bumber because they both like, it's not
the same as like the Margot Robbie situation. I don't know,
does he have a girlfriend the Jacob guy?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, you know who he's on and off with. Is
Aunt Laurie's daughter from Full House or wait, like Laurie
la oh not Aunt Laurie, Like, what is her name?
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, get your characters. I hate full House, So that's why. Wait,
aunt Becky's real daughter in real.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Life, Becky's real daughter that she went to jail for
faking her rowing pictures in the USC he is on
and off with Olivia Jade.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Oh okay, I didn't even know what her name was. Well,
like that would just be different because she had she
just had a baby, and Margot Robbie just like had
a baby and stuff, So that would be like a
cheating situation. So I wouldn't be for that. But I
was more. I was for for sure for Pamela Anderson
like that, that just seemed like a perfect match, especially
(16:28):
because Liam Nielsen lost. Uh what the hell is her name?
Why can't I think of her name? Yeah? So speaking
of another nineties good show, The Parent Trap. But yeah,
so that that one just made me happy. So I
was bummed.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I saw a picture a friend dresser and the actress
that plays Chessie in The Parent Trap, and I was
going to repost it and put the women that raised
because I love those two, and I like lost a
picture and then forgot about it. Also side note to
my fellow pregs, don't go see Wathering Heights, Like, wait.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
The laughter there's a scene I wasn't prepared for. And yeah,
everybody's saying like it's so it's so bad, Like is
it worse than The Notebook?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
First of all, The Notebook is a great movie, and
Weathering Heights I thought was great. Like if you accept
that it's just like a weird, campy movie, it's fine.
It's not going to be the Book. Like I just
saw that Netflix is remaking Pride and Prejudice and I'm
conflicted because I think the movie from two thousand and
four two thousand and five is like one of the
most perfect movies ever made. So I'm like, how is
(17:39):
how are they gonna remake this?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Well, but I'll watch it so I feel like, because
you know, Jacob Allardi was the Frankenstein in the most
horrible adaptation of that book ever.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
They kept playing clips so that at the SAG Awards
or the Actor Awards whatever they rebranded it to and
it looks so terrible.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
It was so bad. It's so so bad, and so
he must like to be in movies that are like
based on really good old books. That are totally nothing
like the good old books, like the New Frankets Side
movie is like loosely based on what really happened in
the book. It like it's very a loose interpretation.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I would say, like I never read The Withering Heights book,
and I know it's very different this movie, but I
enjoyed it. Like I thought, the costumes, it's not period accurate,
and I think that's what's pissing people off. And it's
not one hundred percent accurate to the story, but I
enjoyed watching it. If you just accept that it's inspired
by or whatever. Maybe that's why the title is in quotes.
(18:37):
Everybody thought maybe going in it wasn't going to be
exact because the titles in quotes, so it's not exactly
like it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I like that director Emerald I forget her last name.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, I like her art style, Like I mean, I've
never saw the movie, but the clips, like I see
what she's doing and it's very artsy, and I like that.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Even though she played Camilla Parker Bulls in The Crown,
I can't forgive.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
But whatever, I don't know, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I I'm always curious how they're gonna adapt these type
of movies. I thought, for today, it was cool to see.
I think you'll really like the costumes and everything.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But some people said it was the worst movie they
ever saw.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I guess in.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Your I've I've heard many people say that Notebook was
a horrible movie.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But is that what you're saying? No, I want a
saw horsible of sadness. No, Cami Alle told me never
to watch it. Oh so you're just she told me
it's so sad and terrible. So I never watched it
because oh yeah, I don't. I don't want to watch
something that's sad like that.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I thought you just meant it was like a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Like no, no, no, I heard it was really good. No,
it's really good. But yeah, you can't handle it, like yeah,
like I just don't want to bomb.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Whenever it's even on TV, I'm like, I can't think
about it. It really upsets me. And yeah, I mean
I cried really bad at Wuthering Heights, but like I'm
a crier in general, and I'm pregnant right now, so
like that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Could have happened in any situation.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
All right, let's talk about pediatricians who kill children.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
So this pediatrician is being charged in her daughter's death
after she claimed she found her daughter in the bottom
of the pool, only for evidence to suggest that she
staged the scene.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, so they they replayed the nine one one call
or the transcript of it at least, and the mom
called I guess they were I don't know if they
were visiting someone or they were on a vacation, but
they were at a rental like an airbnb type of
house in Miami. And she called police and said, or
call you know, called nine one one and said, oh,
(21:36):
the kids in the bottom of the pool. My daughter
is in the bottom of the pool. So the nine
one one operator is just like, all right, we'll jump
in there and get her out. Like you should see
the conversation with the nine one one operator.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's the transcript of the call is outrageous.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's so outrageous. So so she's like, oh, I don't
know how to swim, and the nine one one operator
is just like, okay, can you find a stick like
the stick they used to clean the pool, like find
something and try to get her out. And then she's
like trying to ask her what the depth of the
water she's in. She's like, is she in the three
foot part or like the six foot part? And the
lady's like, I don't know, I guess it's the nine
foot part. And like meanwhile, the cops and the AMT
(22:15):
and ams and stuff were on the way, but like
in that time period, she was like not even attempting
to get the kid out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
No, And her excuse was like I can't swim, Like
I'm thinking, like I'm about to be a mom, You're
a mom, like I would do anything.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, you don't. Even a normal mother doesn't even think
about that. And actually I believe we had a case.
I'm just thinking about this so I haven't looked it
up prior, but like we had a case on Mother
No's death since we've been a show that there was
a situation where a family found like I think it
was like a grandpap and a kid in the pool
(22:51):
because apparently the kid fell in the pool and the
instinct of the grandparent was like jump in and try
to get the kid, and they were both found dead.
That's like that's what you would expect to see in
that situation, yes, because like like, well, I've already determined
she's dead, so this isn't my problem, Like that's the
way it was coming off. Yeah, It's it's really really bizarre.
So so anyway, they they the ems finally show up
(23:14):
and they get the kid out of the pool and
the kid the kid ends up dying. The kid's dead,
and they do the autopsy on the kid, and the
kid has no signs of ever being alive in water.
There's no water pulmonary edemon nothing in her lungs, no
signs that she drowned. So they were like she was
dead before before she even went into the pool, and
(23:35):
they believe that she was smothered to death. So and
there are specific things that they could see at autopsy
in that situation too. So we we did have a
post actually in the gross room this week of it's
called frown upside Down and it shows the dissection that
we could do on people that are smothered to death,
(23:56):
mainly to show that if you reflect the skin from
around them off of the skull, you could see that
underneath of the lips there's bruising, contusions, indentations from teeth.
And also when you're in the end stages of hypoxia
or having like a lack of oxygen, you could start
having a seizure and one of the symptoms of that
(24:17):
is to bite down on the tongue, so you will
see like impressions in the tongue as well. So that's
another thing that we would take out at autopsy, so
they think that that's what they saw, and they definitely
didn't see any evidence that she was like drowning and
fell in a pool.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I mean, don't you think that an educated doctor would
know that was gonna come up? Or do people really
just think smothering is hard to detect. Well, smothering is
sometimes hard to detect, but you can't substitute it for
putting them in a pool where it's easy to detect
if someone was in there. I mean, the nine one
(24:55):
one call alone is obviously a major red flag. Her
lack of like I pediatrician, like this person like went
to medical school and learned how to save people and
then specialized in pediatrics and learn how to save children.
Could you imagine like being just like listening to the
news and hearing your pediatrician is on the news for
(25:19):
killing their child.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I just can't even imagine it.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Especially if you brought your kid in and then she,
like God forbid, misdiagnosed them with something or didn't take
something serious. Right, you have to just think, like, oh,
all of a sudden, she just killed her own kid,
like she wasn't doing anything with other people's kids, or
like not caring or having nefarious intentions. I don't know,
(25:44):
like you have to go there that they're in the
darkest place in their mind when they're treating your kid.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
If they could be as terrible as to kill their
own child. Yeah, it's just so messed up. So I
don't know what's gonna happen with this case. She went
back to Oklahoma after and that's that's normal because if
you're on vacation and your kid dies and it appears
to be accidental, because like that's what it appeared to be,
(26:10):
even though she didn't help it. It appeared that the
kid went there. She went home, and then when they
the autopsy was done, they were like, hey, you're coming back,
Like this is what's weird.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Like they brought her back to Miami on a murder charge,
and then it got switched to a manslaughter charge, and
then it again got switched back to a second degree
murder charge.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Well, I guess just the further investigation what it's showing,
because I'm sure they're going to do toxicology to see
like was she drugged, like something else happened before she
got into the water. That's all they know. She got
into the water when she was already not breathing on
her own basically, So like whatever the investigation unravels with that.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, totally. And they're saying she's gonna she doesn't have bond.
Thank god, this is the case. I think this is
very appropriate, and she's gonna stay in jail until she
awaits her trial.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah. Well, well on top of that, if we hear
anything about that, all right.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So a new report came out that dozens of Australians
were diagnosed with a rare tattoo related vision loss. So
can you explain this some more? So?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Basically what happened was there's been people that have been
complaining about this symptom of uvi iitis, which is an
inflammation of the eye, and they decided that they were
going to do a study on this to see what
was causing it because they were having a decent amount
of cases of it. And it's a progressive inflammation of
(27:34):
the eye that could lead to glaucoma, it could lead
to permanent vision loss if it doesn't get treated, and
it requires an immunosuppressant, usually a drug called methotrex eate,
which is like not really a drug that you want
to take for the rest of your life if you
don't have to, because it's not a benign drug for sure.
So this study was published in a journal called Clinical
(27:58):
and Experimental Ophthalmology in January twenty twenty six, so it
was a recent paper and it was titled Tattoo associated
uv ititis and Emerging Ie Health Challenge. And in the study,
so they had said already in Australia that tattooing has
gone up significantly over the past years and as of
(28:20):
twenty twenty two, they think that twenty five percent of
the population has at least one tattoo, which is a
lot of people.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So they were checking all of these eye treatments that
have been going on at different clinics throughout the country
and seeing these people that were diagnosed with this uv
ititis and then they found that they had tattoos and
they wanted to see what the correlation was. So some
of the people that had tattoos, a lot of them
(28:52):
actually that were in this particular study, had inflammation at
the tattoo site. So you anyone that's listening to me,
you have tattoos, I have tattoos, Like you know when
your tattoo becomes like raised and it's like kind of
angry and itchy. So that was happening with these people,
and they've determined that it's it's almost a delayed like
(29:15):
a delayed allergic reaction in a sense. So not only
and most commonly people see it at the actual tattoo site,
but there are all these other weird things that could happen.
I think at crime Con two years ago, we talked
about olymphoma associated with tattooing. So there's all these different
other rare events that could happen. And now this one
(29:36):
is that this immune response could start affecting your eyes
as well. And so I mean, it's really scary, and
they've they've pinpointed it almost to black ink. Yeah, I
think they said in some cases there was notes of
pink or red, but it's mostly black ink. And then
I guess what's scary for me is this isn't something
(29:57):
that presents immediately. Instead, in most of the cases it
presents a year or two later, but there are some
reported cases where it should up thirty five years later. Yeah,
I mean, and that's it's it's just called it's called
a delayed hypersensitivity reaction. So it's it's just like basically
like a delayed allergy, like your your body. You know,
(30:17):
typically like if you get stung by a bee or
you have something you're allergic to, you have a hive
or something right away, like it bothers you, And this
is like no, it could stay around for a while
and then your immune system could start freaking out about it.
So there's still a lot more that needs to be
studied with this to say that there's a definite correlation.
And uh, like one of the things that's hard to
(30:41):
determine is because when you get tattooed, it's not very regulated,
so like everybody's not using the same exact inc that's
made of the same exact components. So there's just like
all these other factors that need to go into studying it.
But I would be interested if in bigger countries, other
countries like America or somewhere in UK are also seeing
(31:03):
this as well.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, all right, Spotify and Liquid Death have partnered up
to create an eternal playlist. Earn.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's kind of a good idea.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I think this is really awesome if you have somebody
in your life that's a huge music lover, because it's
kind of this cool way that you can you know,
I guess let me describe it first. So it's this
speaker that's in the shape of an urn, so you
can put ashes in it, and then either before somebody
dies or I guess after, they have this eternal playlist
generator where you could answer a series of questions about
(31:36):
what you want your vibe to be after death, and
it mixes that with the listening history to create this
playlist that you could then sync to this earn. So
I think the marketing for this is hilarious. It's saying
research shows if you keep the dead happy, they're less
likely to haunt you by forty seven percent, which I
think is.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Kind of funny. But it's a cool way to honor
somebody in your life that really loves music. Yeah, I
think it's cool too. I think my only concern is,
like with any technology, now, like that thing's gonna stop
working in six months and then you got this like
ugly plastic looking eurn, right, Yeah. I besides that if
(32:16):
it actually works, and how long is it going to last?
Because you know, just like things like that are just
kind of they don't last as long as they used to,
you know, yeah, I wonder how long it lasts.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I mean, this thing is five hundred dollars and it's
sold out already, so are they gonna make more?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Listen, a regular earn is probably that much money too,
if you get it from the funeral home. They cost
so much money they I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Like you still get a nice balls at home good
home goods exactly, Like that's what I would do too,
but because they when you go to the funeral home,
it's like they take advantage of you when you're at
your worst time and they're like, oh, let me upsell
this you know thing.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
It's made of copper and it's engraved and blah blah blah.
John will tell you what she was talking about it
with remember with her dad, Like her mom got the
big one and her and her brother got like smaller ones. Yeah,
and it was like a ta It was like a
ton of money exactly. So I don't know. I just
think it's like and this one's like a speaker too,
like it does something. It's not just a jar.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, so you could like listen to it, or you
could just have it as a nice memorial to your
loved one or whatever. I think this is a cool idea.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, now that you're putting that in prospective, I mean
I feel like we could have a whole episode about
people taking care of people taking advantage of grieving people, right, yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But I don't know. I'm for it. I think I
don't think five hundred dollars is that outrageous. I mean
it it is if it if it's like a decent speaker,
And I mean you also could just kind of probably
make it yourself if you really wanted to, Like, can't
you just sink a Spotify list up to a speaker?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Well, yeah you could probably. I mean this is definitely
gonna inspire some type of like copycat design. But I
think it's a there's coming on Amazon in like two
months that's gonna be nineteen ninety five and.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Work for five minutes. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Seriously, Yeah, I like this idea. Of course, there's gonna
be some people that are like pissy about it because
they think it's like inappropriate, And then there's gonna be
people that just want to buy it to have an
earned decoration in their house without any dead person associated
with it. So I applaud them for going outside the box.
We don't often see new products that.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Are like mind blowing. I think if Spotify wants to
send me one, I would take it and put it
on display. If Spotify for a future guest or Liquid
Death or Liquid Death, yeah, I mean, come on, this
is like Mother Knows Death. It would be perfect absolutely
all right, guys, Well, our event is coming up in
a couple of weeks for the Center for Forensic Science
(34:54):
Research and Education on April tenth and eleventh in Horsham, Pennsylvania.
We are going to have such a good time doing
a live show and you're gonna do a lecture. Yeah,
it's gonna be great, and mine's gonna be like relevant
to homicides and deaths and just all the different kinds
of ways people could die. But how we're trying to
keep it a little bit more like science based but
(35:18):
educational at the same time, so see like what we
do in our actual profession when it comes to that.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So you're gonna have that, and then there's gonna be
some guest speakers as well. And don't forget, if you
were a grocery member, you were going to get a
pretty hefty discount on tickets. And we are gonna have
that link up asap, so make sure to check out
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Speaker 1 (35:46):
See you guys tomorrow. Thank you for listening to Mother
nos Death. As a reminder, my training is as a
pathologist assistant. I have a master's level education and specialize
in anatomy and pathology education. I am not a doctor
and I have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or
(36:08):
alive without the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show,
my website, and social media accounts are designed to educate
and inform people based on my experience working in pathology,
so they can make healthier decisions regarding their life and
well being. Always remember that science is changing every day
(36:30):
and the opinions expressed in this episode are based on
my knowledge of those subjects at the time of publication.
If you are having a medical problem, have a medical question,
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