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December 9, 2025 17 mins

In this mini-episode, Lisa, Nick, and Celia revisit the eternal question: Should you call a friend, or should you try to calm the f* down first? From having panic attacks in Verizon stores to rage-recording voice memos, the gang talks about self-soothing BEFORE you become someone else’s problem. The trio chats about codependency, coping skills, and the occasional tree-touching — all delivered with Lisa’s trademark “tenderness”.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lisa Lampanelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yanta I know it all,
and her words come from her head, her heart, and
often out of her ass. His podcast should not be
misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge
strain of salt for entertainment purposes only.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
These.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
You need help, You're the problems. Come on, come do.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Go lamb, take a pill.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
I think you're insane.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Do what I said, dumb ass, listen to me. Hey, everybody,
it's droll po Lisa, Oh, Lisa.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Don't I sound like mister Ed?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Is that a reference, by the way, that either of
you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Okay, what about you? Did you know that, Celia?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
No, I've no.

Speaker 5 (01:00):
I know a horse is a horse, of course, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
And.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
It's mister Ed.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
He was a talking horse. In the fifties they had
the worst, yet slash best, most wholesome sitcoms because you
know why, no blacks. No, no, they had the worst sitcoms,
but they were wholesome.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
So what was this guy who's like owns a horse.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
That can talk and not once did the people growing
up in the fifties think oh, he fucks the horse.
I did, however, because I have a disease where I
think dirty all the time. We've talked about this, and
it's a disease that I enjoy and made a living
out of.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
So mister ed I don't know why we're They almost
have weird.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Sitcoms like Hazel, where Hazel was the maid, the battle Axe,
the me if you will, and she's living with the Baxters,
and but she runs the ship. She's always like, get
mister Baxter, you getting fat? And he's like, oh, Hazel,
at your cooking? Like and that's supposed to be a punchline.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Dennis the Menace.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
There's Dennis and he lives next door to mister Wilson, who,
by the way, in real life was a big corn holer,
but yet never molested Dennis, which proves that gay men
do not molest It's the straight one. You got to
watch for me, yep, which one.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Anyway?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's Lisa Evan the Old Badly is the here with
shrink Thiss. I'm here with Nick Scope Leddy. You can
find him. I'm not letting you say it. You Nick
Scopes at TikTok and also the other one of Instagram,
and you can find Celia the clam producer at Celia
Underscore Underscore.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
Remondou do you say it? How do you say it?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Ramon?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Who?

Speaker 6 (02:46):
She said a very classics?

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Oh it's so Leggs. Anyway, we're just shut up, shut up.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
We're doing a little short episode today to tide you
over till our January season two Paraba. Big news, folks,
We're back here January and we're revisiting some of our
past episodes. This week, we will revisit the one called

(03:23):
codependent Yes or code read.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
This was an idea I had when I was like,
I gotta call someone. I have to talk. And then
I was like, wait a minute, how about you try
self soothing? Bitch said?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
What was calling your friends and driving them freaking crazy?
Giving you twat bitch? Hate you so much, needy bitch.
So it's like, oh, wait, I have ways to regulate
my nervous system. I have, oh this thing called breathing
that I could do.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
I have a tree. I could go touch touch a
fucking tree. It does a great deal for you.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I've touched rocks and it's done that that's some dirty
touch rocks.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
But I have Rockefeller Center and touch a tree.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
On touch of fucking stones.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
No, So we talked about when is it okay to
reach out to people and when should you just see
if you can handle it yourself without imploding?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
So, Nick, do we have oon lettar?

Speaker 6 (04:17):
We do? Dear Lisa, Wait.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Let me ask first, Celia, are you a big self soother?
I imagine you're a big pain in the ass as
a friend who calls and goes, oh my y, Lisa
is mean to me today. Let me play that episode
for a anartist.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
No, do you? Are you more of us? Be honest.
You don't have to brag. You're a young kid.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
You get to still be making mistakes. Do you tend
to go wait, I'm gonna try to solve this internally
or do just like, oh my god, such and such
a thing happened.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think I I think I try to to self
soothe and then when it's not working, because I'm making
it worse for myself, like spiraling, I didn't know how
to do it right, I would call my friends and
then I kind of had a wake up call after that,
and I actually experienced this yesterday like I had a
bad day and I was so upset, literally like crying

(05:10):
in the Verizon in Times Square.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
I heard about that. The Verizon guy called me. I
said it was really funny. He said, wow, she's unhinged.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, And at first I was like, oh my god,
I have no one to talk to you about this,
like I don't know what to do. And I was like,
you know what, I'm going to make a plan and
I'm going to follow it.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
And so that's what I did.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Because Okay, that observes applause because honestly, that anxiety and
that spiraling once it's not going to solve it. But
once a plan is put into place, it's like, okay,
I can handle this. I can at least I'm aware
of what's going on and I can handle it a
certain extent myself.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
So that's a good tool for you.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
And it worked because then I did complete my plan,
which was just kind of like go home, take a shower,
take your medicine, and just calm down, eat something. And
I was like, why was I so upset?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Like did that make Can I tell you be honest
today this happened to me today. Last night, one of
my adult students pissed me the fuck off. She I
helped her with something. I took four hours of my
time for free because I thought it would be fun.
She needed help buying an outfit for show she was doing.

(06:23):
I had a blast doing it. I was like a stylist.
I was like running around like, oh, like pretty woman
or whatever. And she instead of telling me, hey, I
decided against the clothes.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
I brought it back.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I wanted to talk to you and thank you
anyway in front of the whole class, because they think
it's they think it's safe. If I'm telling you in
front of other people, you're not gonna yell at me.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Well guess what.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
That doesn't work with me. So I was like, well,
maybe you should ask yourself why you didn't call me
in person. So I was really charged up and pissed
that she kind of did this in front of people
and was not grateful and was trying to talk me
out of being pissed at her. So today that happened
last night. So today, on the way to meet Nick,
I was like, I'm just gonna call my friend Amy

(07:05):
and just I'm gonna like fucking leave an audio message
and just like vent because I can't call her this early,
but I'll send the audio message. I record the full
on screaming version, and then I looked at the tape
and I go a race because Amy would have loved
it in a good way.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
She would have been like, oh my god, that's awful.
I get it.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
She shouldn't have done it that way, but I go, oh,
I got it out. I don't need to now burden
her with it. I could tell her about it when
it's colmer and it's like not charged, who cares? And
I go, oh, just getting it out was nice. Then
Nick will tell you I was in a perfectly fine
mood on the way that's the studio because I.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Was like, oh, it's out.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
So it was sort of a combination of venting to
the void, deleting it, and then just kind of like
getting over it.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's like when people say, like, if you feel a
certain way about someone, like you type it all out
in the text to.

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Them and delete it. Yeah, and it kind of does work.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
But once my roommates got home, I was like, they
were like, what happened and it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
Like, yeah, you kind of forget why it was bad.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I was like listening to this story, then I'm laughing
telling it back, and I'm like, see, it really doesn't matter.
It also helps to like put put your problems into perspective.
Like I got on the subway after I was crying
in Verizon, yeah, because they messed with my phone, and
I was like, there are people pinching pennies out here, correct,
who can't have like a home to sleep in, And
I'm crying because I'm annoyed about Verizon messing up my phone.

(08:27):
Like at least I have a phone. At least I
have somewhere to go, and like I have health and
like that.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Well, that's like looking at things through a lens of
gratitude versus resentment. It's like just once the gratitude, it's like,
holy shit, I have a phone, I know, and I
can afford a phone because my drug addict father's paying
for it.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I mean that is but it's true. Perspective is huge.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
But also it's like giving yourself the chance to experiment
with like, let me see if I can handle this
but not implode.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
So it is good to get it out a little.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Well, imploy it and then I and then I handled it.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
That's all right, but it got there really well.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Like I think that I was actually pretty proud of
myself after Yeah, I would be too.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Like in my roommates, we're like, wow, like you handled
that great.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I mean, honestly, for someone your age, that's I mean,
that's you know, think about it. When you're three times
your age, which is my age, you'll be like, I'm
nailing it, you know, So I say you're onto something.
The only hopeless case in this room is Nick. Now
do we have a letter?

Speaker 5 (09:27):
Nick?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Do we have one at Nick scopses dot com.

Speaker 6 (09:32):
We do have a letter, Dear Lisa. I'm a guy
that holds everything in and deals with my wife's problems,
my kids problems, and my own problems. The joke is
that guys like me have heart attacks and die.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Oops.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
I think complaining is pointless, and I'd say I only
explode in a tantrum two to three times a year.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Oh okay, he has it on a chart that is healthy.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
This guy's from Princet, New Jersey with a pussy.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yeah yeah, I mean I've originally live in Prince Then no,
so what wait? So he just holds it in and
explodes and I'm almost gonna guarantee explodes it the wrong people,
so he'll be the one who is dealing with family
drama or trauma or has something going on, and yet

(10:19):
it's the clerk at the stopping job who gets it.
So I don't know, Man, it doesn't sound like it
sounds like he was one of those guys who was raised.
Men don't have emotions, Men don't feel, men don't cry,
men don't do anything. They hold it all in like
a marine type of thing. Whereas that can't be good

(10:39):
for anyone. What do you think, Nick, you're semi a man?

Speaker 5 (10:42):
What do you think?

Speaker 6 (10:44):
I mean a little from the waist down?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Not?

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Okay? Yeah, I would say I know a lot of
men like this, maybe that just hold their shit and
they take it out on everyone else, mostly from work.
I know people like this well.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Also, like sometimes when you're in a masculine profession like
bodybuilding or training or firemen or cops, like you see
so much and there's so much going on that those
are like those manly professioned doctors. Can you imagine being
a male doctor who has to give bad news and
start crying when you're telling somebody they have cancer, Like

(11:21):
you have to like manage your emotions so much.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Yeah, it's a lot. I mean, you got to find
this guy needs to find an outlet, whether that's therapy,
whether that's it's I mean, and working out altogether, because
working out does not solve it.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
All, Thank God, because I don't work out at all
and I'm solved.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
But really, it doesn't I I Yeah, like she said,
I work in a profession that there's a lot of
guys who like look really good and work out really
hard and take care of their bodies, but like, emotionally,
they're a fucking mess all the time and they can't
handle fucking anything. Anything can send them into a spiral, right,
like right, And it's just and that type of man

(12:01):
quite frankly, and I'm going to sound like a fucking asshole.
That type of man is just not appealing to anyone.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
No.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
I like when men cry appropriately, Like I'm very proud
of that. I had someone call me recently and the
wife's having a medical issue and it's not good, and
I was so and he's a very masculine guy, so
when he cried, I was like, oh, I'm seeing him
as a human.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think guys like this guy writing in were somehow
told that that's wrong, and he's like, I mean, if
you're not crying over something serious like that, there's something
wrong with you. And yet you're going to keep it
together in front of her, and you're going to keep
your shit together.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
In front of the kids. But just to have emotion
is fine.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Yeah, absolutely, I think I think too. It just depends,
like you said, it depends how you grew up. Like
I knew, my dad was pretty like, don't get me wrong,
my dad is Lisa knows my dad. He's an our
word for the lack of a besser.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
Jesus word and word I don't know what any of
those are.

Speaker 6 (13:05):
More on sometimes, but he was not afraid to show
his emotions about things like Still to this day he
will get emotional talking about like my mother or things
like that, and like that's appropriate. That makes sense. Sure,
some other things he does not so much. But you
saw the like it's okay and like to have those
feelings and it's all all right. So he probably, you said,

(13:27):
he probably grew up in a place where like that
was not okay, and you just have to fucking push
it all down. And I got I'm the man. I
have to be this way and like it's it's a
different time now, to be quite honest, So yeah, you can.
You can be that, you can be emotional, you can
have talks with your your wife or whoever like that,
you know, and she doesn't appreciate that, and that's a
different conversation.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
It's just so sad and guys turn into these artificial
people who aren't even showing anything. Like you've teared up
in front of me about a couple of things and
I was like, oh, I know him better now, you know.
And only after I pointed at you and called you
a fag did I feel like I truly knew you.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
And the weird part is when you point at me
and called me a fag, I came in my pants.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's happening for Celia right now. I see that chair
going up and down.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yes, I do scissor. Oh my god, Like.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Listen, Celia, how much money would it take if you
had to have sex with Nick?

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Like how much money would it take? Like like a
million or ten thousand? No, I just feel.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
I would write it off as charity works, So don't
even start. I don't care that you're young, Like.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Would it like seriously, because we all have a price.
Would it would it be? I don't know how much
you make here. I can't imagine it's very much. So
one hundred grand, would you'd be like, I'll take one
for the team. Why because of daddy.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Need more money than that?

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (15:05):
More to Nick? Is that not not because he's unattractive?
Is it because it's just like, oh we know each
other too well?

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Not in like the age.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, it's just there's a huge age gap that's not
like my fucking girl, what do you want?

Speaker 4 (15:25):
What do you have a girl?

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:26):
I am New York City?

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
What are you? Twenty three?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Okay, that's why.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I wouldn't fuck Nick, among other o't fuck fats anymore.
The age gap is really big. Sixty four to thirty
seven is gross. I think sixty four to forty five
is gross. I think sixty four shouldn't go below fifty three.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
So eleven years yeah, Cecilia.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
I also think though, okay to me, okay, but like no,
but like an older guy my age, like they know
what they're doing, some of them in New York City.
They definitely have money.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, hang out, what's wrong?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
What's fucking?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I think? I think the highest for me would be
like thirty yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
No, I mean if.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was like twenty seven or whatever, a twenty five,
I'd say like thirty five, thirty three.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
You know, my parents had a fourteen year age gap, so.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
That worked out exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
So like I just think, I think, no, I either
would I definitely, I don't know. I get told a
lot that I'm I seem.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Older than I am.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
I hate that. I mean, I was told the other
day that she said, I look.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
It's just yeah, that the need for botox.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, she looks, she looks. It is the
way I forget that you're twenty tho.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
You comport yourself as if you are a older soul.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't know if I if I'm loving that, you know,
my that's good. I don't know, because I don't I
want to be like young?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
What would you be this way? Shut up? Everybody? Shut up?
Shut up?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Everyone.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
You're you accept yourself the way you are. Who cares
if you like it? You just start liking yourself this way.
I don't know if I'm loving that?

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Too bad? Too bad? Mister? Where can people listen?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Nick?

Speaker 6 (17:30):
You guys can listen on the iHeartRadio app to shrink
this Yeah. Sorry uh and please if you want to
write into the show, you can email us at shrink
This Show at gmail dot com.

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