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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome the mother to his death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about a couple of freak accidents,
a woman who incidentally found out that she had advanced
cancer the night before her wedding, and diagnosing yourself on TikTok.
All that and more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So over the weekend, a seventeen month old at Sue
America somehow climbed under a fence, made its way over
to the wolf enclosure and got injured after sticking their
hand through the barrier.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So apparently the parents just got charged with this for
neglecting their child. They were on their phone or something.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, obviously kids could wander
and things that happened really fast and everything, but this
is totally unacceptable. They said they have enough evidence to
show that both of the parents, one of which was
forty three the other was sixty one, walk twenty five
to thirty feet away from this fence where they're eight
or seventeen month old baby climbed under the fence, were
(01:17):
sitting on a bench and playing on their phones while
this whole thing went down and then by standards had
to go get the kid after. They didn't specify exactly
what happened. They said it was injured.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
By the wolf. It bit the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, that's what I was wondering, because they said the
injury was minor, it wasn't anything crazy, and that wolf
wasn't acting aggressive. But you think of like that little
chunky hand coming through a fence, and you don't think
that looks like attractive to a wolf.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's kind of badass though, to grow up and be
like I got bit by a wolf. Yeah, but I
still like, listen, we have like a major phone parenting
situation happening. Did I tell you we when we went
We went to New York last week to see Stranger
Things on Broadway. It was the best. There's like this
(02:06):
little Italian restaurant right across the street that's really good
that we go to whenever we go to a theater.
There right, and this mom and her son sat next
to us. The mom looked to be around my age.
The sun was about I would say, twelve thirteen, fourteen
fifteen ish, like around that age, like a young teenager kid.
(02:30):
They didn't talk to each other. The entire dinner. They
sat right next you know, in New York, the restaurants
so close, so they were like right up next to us,
and they each played on their phone the entire time
and did not say a word to each other the
entire dinner. It was like so sad to what is
really said. It just was really like I just was like,
(02:51):
this is what's happening, And when you look around, it's
just like it's like that everywhere we were at we
were going to Statue a Liberty and there was like
some school trip there and there was all of these
benches lined up before you got on the boat, and
there were boys that looked like like teenagers maybe seventh, eighth,
(03:11):
ninth grade like around there, and every one of them
was on their phone and no one was talking to
each other. It was it was just like the weirdest
thing ever, Like how are you even friends at that point?
I don't know, It's just so weird. So anyway, I
see it a lot because I go to like a
lot of doctor's appointments with one of my kids. That's sick.
It's just like you go to these like children's only
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ones and the parents are just zoned out on their phones,
whether kids are just crawling around. But the most upsetting
one is when there's not even two siblings that could
play with each other and the parents are just like
sitting there zoned out on their phone, and their kids
just sit like too little for a phone, Like a
five or six year old that's just sitting there like board, unentertained,
(03:55):
staring at the wall because their mom's or dad is
like playing on their phone.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, yeah, this is kind of what I was trying
to touch on. I wrote an article last week for
The Grosser Room about social media addiction because we didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It on this show.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But Meta and Google in particular got hit with this
kind of groundbreaking lawsuit where this at the time when
the lawsuit was filed, a seventeen year old fought a
lawsuit against them, claiming that she became addicted to the
products such as like Google's YouTube that they own, and
she also went after TikTok, Snapchat and then Meta for
Facebook and Instagram and stuff. So she ended up winning
(04:32):
six million dollars, which is obviously that's comical in itself.
That's like pennies to these people. It's like doesn't even
affect them in the slightest. But I got into this
conversation in the grocery room and I was being very transparent.
I don't know if you read my full article I wrote,
but I opened it up being like every day I
wake up and my first thought is I need to
go on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, like all check all my stuff,
(04:54):
and how like pathetic the behavior is. And somebody left
a comment on it being like, well, don't worry because
you won't have time to when your baby's born, and
I'm like, thank god, Like I don't like being like this.
It's it's something that is a behavior that I think
is unacceptable at my age that I act like that.
And obviously it's like a little harder for me to
(05:15):
get off too, because a lot of the work we
do is on my phone, but it is unacceptable the
amount of time I'm on it. I can't wait to
have a child and not be on my phone. I
seriously cannot.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the thing is is that the addiction part of
it is exactly what we're talking about with this story
is just like like in regular life, before phone time,
it was just like this, what this obviously would have
never happened, like even if two people were deep in
a conversation sitting on the bench, they wouldn't have been
(05:47):
completely checked out and zoned out for that long to
not notice their surroundings. And that their child was like
climbing under an enclosure and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What I'm saying, like, what kind of parent are you
that you don't realize your baby, this a seventeen month
old is a baby. You don't realize your baby is
not with you long enough that it got under a
fence and walked up to a wolf enclosure.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think, like I think that a lot of people,
Like I definitely do feel like I have low grade
addiction to the phone, Like I feel like everybody could
say that, because I physically have to say to myself,
like I've made a decision that when I'm sitting in
the waiting room with the kids and stuff like that,
(06:33):
and just like do it when we're at dinner, for example,
like the phones are away, all of them because we
need to talk to each other dinner every night. We
need to talk to each other stuff like that. Like
I have to physically be like I'm doing this and
the same thing what you're saying in the morning, like
I wake up in the morning and if it's five o'clock,
the first thing I say to myself is, Okay, I'm
(06:55):
gonna I'll I'm going to be out of bed at
five point fifteen. I make a a time and say
this is what I'm allowing myself to do this because
if you don't do that, you you you could be
there for two freakin' hours. Like it's it's very easy.
So everybody goes through that, and you just like as
a parent, you really have to force yourself to you know,
(07:19):
it's just a lot of different things that I you know,
you're you experience when you go to Disney or you
go anywhere. When you're with the kids. It's just like,
live in the moment and be with the kids. You
don't need to record every single thing. You don't need
to take a million pictures, like just like I have
five pictures from when I was a child, right like
and guess what, like we all survived and all got
(07:40):
through it. How often do you go back through videos
of of like a parade that you were watching together,
just like, be there with your kids and experience it
in real life, Like no, that's it's just like the
weird thing anymore. It's the weirdest phenomenon that everybody constantly
just has. You're like watching concerts with through a phone
instead of just being there and watching the concert. Like
(08:01):
it's a very weird thing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It is, And I agree they were charged with child
and dangermin I have to agree in this case, I
don't think it's one of those mishaps where babies could
seriously in like half a second. I think of the
time Lubert ran out of the hair salon, right, and
like how terrifying that wasn't how quick it happened, But like,
this wasn't one of those cases where you literally turned
around for two seconds and they were gone, Like they
(08:23):
were totally ignoring the child's whereabouts.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So now like let's talk about Hershey, though, I mean,
why do they why is their access to get that close?
I feel like even if there's two enclosures, but that's second,
the second barrier should also be people proof.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean there definitely has to be criticism on
their part too, because like, how was there even who
is going to a zoo that's not with a child?
I guess some people like I don't really like annimals,
so I don't understand somebody who would be going there
without a child. Right, But if your demographic is mostly
young children going to see animals, how is your security
(09:07):
barrier not completely child proof?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, because this is adults being adults. Like they
put up a fence and they're just like, Okay, clearly
nobody could jump over this fence whatever. But like they
don't think that there's going to be a child crawling
around that could squeeze through a hole. But I mean
that's kind of their job. I just think that I
don't think that Hershey should be completely eliminated from fault here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, And obviously the main people that should be held
accountable are the parents not watching this baby walking around.
But like, yes, I agree that it shouldn't have even
the baby shouldn't have even been able to get inside
of that security barrier, the quote unquote security barrier.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Do you think child endangerment is like a little harsh?
I just think, like, listen, like I think people people
don't pay attention to their kids on their phone and stuff.
I just think the child in endangerment is like some
of the stories that we talk about on here, when
people get charged with child endangerment, You're like, yeah, they
(10:15):
should get charged with child in dangerment. This is just
like this to me is like I don't know, I
just feel like it's a little bit it's just a
little bit different, like they were doing what, Like they're
not the only people doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's just like, well, let's think, let's think about this
because is it the system that's messed up or what?
Because like, yes, they're not the only people doing this.
And I'm sure I'll have incidents in the future where
I'm not paying attention to my son for a couple
of minutes and then all of a sudden, he's doing
something bad. Right, So like I don't want to be
(10:53):
too harsh on that front. But at the same time,
I mean, this kid's arm could have got bit off
by a wolf for no reason because they weren't watching him.
But then if you think about it, like that treadmill
case we talked about this week, I'm pretty sure that's
what the dad got convicted of. Is child endangerment.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, and there's a video of there's a video of
him forcing his child to run on a treadmill and
the kid keeps falling off, and the guy keeps making
him braun and run and braun and kit, the kid
keeps like collapsing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I guess the real question is, like, are people
committing acts of child abuse not getting charged enough? Well,
yes we know that, so yes we know that. But
do parents like this who they have enough evidence suggesting
they were completely being negligent of their child's whereabouts and
put him in a or put him or her we
(11:46):
don't know the gender of the baby in a harmful situation.
Should they just get off scott free because like they
were just looking at their phones and not paying attention
to their kid.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I just say, like a child in dangermout charge. Let's say,
for example, like the mom or dad worked at a
hospital and then they wanted to go get a new job,
Like they might not be able to get a job
with that charge, and like I don't know that zoning
out on your phone and like and I don't know.
(12:17):
I just I just like I don't want to go there,
because there's so many things that you could think of.
Like let's say you go to Epcot right where they
like they welcome public drunkenness right during their wine fest,
two parents drinking too much and a kid wanders off,
Like it's just kind of like some stuff falls. It's
(12:40):
not exactly benign, but it's not that much. There needs
to be like a middle, a middle thing or something.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's what I was gonna ask you. Do you think
legislation needs to introduce a charge that's between no charge
at all and child endangerment.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's just hard to say because, like the same time,
it's just like texting and driving. Obviously, like if you
cause an accident and someone gets hurt or dies, then
you want them to get charged with whatever with negligent driving.
I don't know, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Just let us know what you think.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We've all it's just like a very I mean, like
I said, I notice it in public and people should
really do that. But if you look, like, look around
at your surroundings next time. I just did. I just
did it in New York, and it's just like kind
of every single person is doing that. It's it's not
like if you look at the video of these parents,
(13:37):
you would probably see multiple parents sitting on benches totally
zoned out on their phones while their kids are just
wandering around like it's but their.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Kids didn't get into a wolf enclosure. Well, they made
it perfectly clear. He did not make it into the
wolf enclosure, but he obviously got close enough for the
wolf to bite the baby, So whatever, all right?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
In India, an.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Overcrowded ferris wheel tipped over, trapping people beneath the ride
and injuring thirty ten of them.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Critically so in the grocer room. We have a lot
of amusement ride carnival ride accidents. A lot of times
they happen in India, these bigger ones where the whole
entire ride just collapses. I mean, there's been a bunch
that we haven't even talked about because they happen so frequently, right,
(14:23):
I mean, and we've done other ones that have happened
all over the world, like the dream World in Australia.
We did a high profile that dissection on that. Six
Flags did me. Those are a little different. Those are
established amusement parks, and most of these incidents that occur
in India are at carnival or fair type environments where
they seemingly not that we have great regulations in the
(14:45):
United States about these rides, but over there it seems
like just they don't really have many regulations and they're
you know, I looked up this case in particular, where
a ferris wheel of this ride. That's at a situation
like this, a fair or an amusement parks, you'll only
have about thirty five to forty riders. This one had
eighty on it, and the weight of that probably caused
(15:07):
the ride to tip over, and other witnesses there said
that the bottom of it was not anchored properly. Like,
I don't know what the inspection rate is at carnivals.
I feel like we talked about this before and somebody
wrote in angrily saying that they're highly inspected and they
have all these safety regulations and stuff. But clearly over
there they just have a different set of regular Chians.
(15:27):
I just like don't like those things. If they want
to go, I mean, if they want to go in
one of the smaller ones, I wouldn't care, But just
like some of those ones that are higher up that
if they do fall they could get her. I'm just
kind of like.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Eh, I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, there
was another major incident not that far away from this one,
where one of those ships that you know rocks back
and forth. That's my least favorite ride, those ones that
tipped over and injured fourteen children. Where was this also
in India.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, if you think about it too, Like when you
go down the shore to the boardwalk, there's permanent roller
coasters there at least, Like in Ocean City, there's a
couple permanent rides there, but a lot of those are
just like kind of carnival rides.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't trust those rides either. I would never go
on those. They're like sitting there the salt waters like
eroding the metal. Like I don't. I don't think so,
Like I don't know. Nothing about those makes me feel
safe at all. Like I just think we need to
start introducing worldwide better regulations for rides like this, because obviously,
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in these couple of cases, they could be so dangerous.
All right, A brother and sister were home alone playing
hide and go seek, and at some point they both
went into this unused refrigerator, got stuck and ended up
suffocating to death.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So this used to be a problem back in the
day with that Deaths like this happened either with old
washing machines or old refrigerators that people would put out
to the curb to the trash or just store them
in a garage. And kids naturally want to play hide
and seek and go into things like this that have
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a door, and they get stuck, their parents can't find them,
and then they're you know, they're thought to be missing
for a couple of days, and then they end up
dying of asphyxia in these things, either just from the
lack of oxygen alone in the thing. Or we have
a case in the gross room of a brother and
sister who were inside of a fridge like that from
(17:31):
the fifties, like a really old vintage forensic case. But
they're on top of each other, like crushed inside of
this refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Didn't We have a story on here about twins that
were either babies or toddlers that got stuck in their
toy chest in a similar manner in their bedroom.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, so this reminds me of that case. Obviously, we
have a high profile profile death of the missing boys
in Camden. Remember when the kids I thought immediately, yeah,
it's the same thing like that. Just to make a
long story short, if you guys want to read about it,
it's it's a really crazy story that happened local to us.
But these kids were playing outside and they went missing,
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and it was you know, like family outside just hanging
out and some friends and having like a barbecue type situation,
and the kids went missing, and nobody knew what happened
to them, like did they get kidnapped. They look, they
were little, they were under ten years old, so it's
not like they ran away or anything. And then they
found them dead days later in the trunk of a
(18:35):
car that was on a very adjacent proper property. So
it's a really crazy story and for any of us
that lived through it, it was just awful. But yeah,
so this is this is the same kind of thing.
That's why the now if you put something out to
the trash like that, they tell you to take the
(18:55):
door off of the refrigerator, take the door off the
washing machine, don't store it one that's not working or
not filled with food in your garage.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh that's interesting. I'd never thought about that, if you're
like getting rid of it having to do that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Because that's I mean, now it's different too, because I
guess the case from the fifties, it was like refrigerators
you still like kind of lock shot. Like I feel
like now if you had one with those little film
pads on the side, like a kid was in there,
they'd be able to push it open really easily.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, it's just different. And I think about I was
thinking about when I was looking for stuff for the nursery,
the toy chest story we had because I you know,
you could get really nice looking ones. But then I
think about that case because oftentimes, like in my basement,
for example, I have a chest from the seventies that's
made out of solid wood and then we put blankets
(19:48):
in and stuff. But when I like the lid is
heavy for me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That's like, oh, that's like finger amputation territory.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, it it really really is exactly like there's been
some moments it's been scary, but I think about, like
that's gonna have to be hidden or go away because
it's hard to open the lid as an adult, and
like God forbid the kid gets in there, they don't
have the force to be able to push that open.
Especially in this case, the parents admitted they left them
home alone for twenty minutes to go pick up groceries.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That and that is a little they're really really young
to be left home alone. Yeah, where were they five
and eight? Five and eight? Yeah, I mean that's and
listen anytime my parents, like I only left for twenty minutes.
That's forty minutes at least. How do you leave for
twenty minutes to get groceries? It's not even possible. Yeah,
(20:38):
Like how would you get to go somewhere, get to
a store, go in the store, get what you need, pay,
leave like that. That's it's not even possible. I just
don't think people think about stuff like this, and that's
when it happens.
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Okay, so that God, this is a really tragic story.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So this bride got into a car accident the night
before her wedding, and her hospital trip stepping from the
accident ended up revealing that she had stage four cancer.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She was driving home from her rehearsal dinner.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And got t boned at the light. So then she
went to the hospital, got a CT scan and they
saw these masses all over her body.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, she had eighteen tumors, and they automatically knew just
based on the presentation, they knew it was cancer. So
you're not you're not really supposed to tell anyone that
they have cancer before you have a tissue diagnosis, but
sometimes it's just very obvious that they might say something
like it's very suspicious. So they did a biopsy and
they weren't able to tell what it was, and then
(22:44):
she had to travel to MD Anderson, which is a
specialized cancer center, and she was diagnosed with something called
follicular dendritic cell carcinoma, which is super super rare. There's
there's only a few hundred cases around the world that
have been diagnosed of it. So when she got she
probably just went to like a regular hospital when she
(23:08):
had this accident, and they buy upsied it. And oftentimes
you get something in pathology that's very weird and you
don't the pathol just does special staining, special testing, and
they might know what it is, but they always want
to probably get another opinion from a place like m
D Anderson that sees the weird stuff. There's nothing abnormal
(23:32):
about that. That happens every single day, like doctors bouncing
ideas off of each other, just because when you know,
this isn't like a typical breast cancer. This is like
something weird that they don't They don't know what it is,
so they have to work it up in a different
kind of way to get exactly what it is. These
particular cells are these cells that are present on the
(23:55):
inside of the lymph nodes. So this cancer could really
start anywhere, and if it's caught early, it has a
pretty good prognosis. If it's caught later, then it has
a worse prognosis. Unfortunately, but since there's only a few
hundred cases, they don't one hundred percent know like what
(24:16):
the prognosis is. It's just hard to say when you
have such a small population size of people to survey.
So unfortunately, with the eighteen tumors that she has its
metastatic stage four, she still was just like I'm getting
married anyway, Like I'm not gonna let this stop me,
but she's gonna have to get a ton of treatment,
(24:37):
and honestly, like it might not have a good prognosis,
like who, we don't really know.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's just really sad. I mean she did go obviously
she ended up getting married the next day, still, because
like what are you going to do at that point?
At least try to have a good day the next day.
But like it's almost do you think if she didn't
get in this car accident that she would have just
never found out and then died quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Or she was having some symptoms. It's just like a
lot of times people don't realize it because especially women,
because we get her period every month, and it's just like,
you know, you really only have what three weeks of
your body feeling okay, not even because typically it's like
(25:20):
the week leading up to it is when stuff starts
getting bloated and like you just don't feel great. And
then while you have it, you don't always feel great.
So you know, if you have bloating and you don't
really pinpoint it to like this is only from my
period or something like that, it could really it could
(25:41):
be so vague that you really kind of just ignore it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, I think that's what she was saying, was that
she had known autoimmune issues and back pain, but she
never thought anything of it, or she didn't want to
like be dramatic about it, so she never looked into
it further. But then that back pain ended up being
a result, I guess of the masses pushing on that.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and I mean, like think about that, like you walk,
your hip hurts, like whatever it is. As you get older,
it's even and she's pretty young, right, like yeah, I mean,
but as you get older and stuff, you just start
feeling this hurts, this hurts, and then you're just like ah, whatever,
you just kind of blow it off. It's not like
(26:20):
anything that was so major. She felt like it had
to be addressed right away, so eventually it would have
started causing problems. It seems like it's a slower growing
tumor that she didn't even realize that she had it. Yeah,
so hopefully all works out for her.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
All right, People are over self diagnosing themselves with autism,
and it's all thanks to TikTok.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's it's probably not just autism. It's like everything I
see videos for all the time. But let me give
you because I am diagnosed with TikTok autism for sure,
just based upon this difficulty with social communication. You you
and my husband told me over Easter dinner that I'm
I'm horrible in social situations, So that that's confirmed.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You can't even deny it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know what to say to people. I don't know.
I don't know what to say. Difficulty with social communication,
not knowing when to jumping conversations, missing sarcasm, taking things literally,
struggling with eye contact and small talk. Okay, so yes.
Check Sensory sensitivity is being overwhelmed by noise yes, light, texture,
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crowd yes, clothing yes, food yes, over stimulation quickly yes,
hand movements, strong need for routine, and distress when plans
suddenly change, intense, are highly focused interest, and feeling socially
drained after acting in a normal social situation. That's like
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probably my number one thing on this list, so so
like every person, but but like I also know almost
every single person in my life that has multiple things
on this list too.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, That's what I was gonna say. And it seems
like the experts reviewing this are saying, like, please note
that autism is a spectrum and that just because somebody's
listing off the same symptoms that you have doesn't mean
that you necessarily have it. And they're also saying like
we should all be approaching social media, that a lot
of these videos have misleading or inaccurate information, and that's
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very important. And I feel like as a society we've
maybe forgotten that that's the thing, and that people could
go on there and make videos and claim whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I just don't I don't really understand the point of
the videos, to be honest with you. Like, let's say,
for example, I saw that and I was like, oh
my god, I really think I have autism. So I'm
gonna go to some doctor and get diagnosed. Why, Like
I'm forty six, I'm here, I've made it this far.
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Why what's the diagnosis gonna what is it going to do? Like,
what's the point of any of this?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
What was the point of On yesterday's episode that girls
seeing that tech talk about the pedophilic OCD, like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Because she got, because she got, because her thing is
is that she get in treatment years later, Like what
kind of treatment do you get as a forty six
year old that's been living with this? They're entire like
what are you talking about right now?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I will say, like I feel like if you're a
parent that maybe as a kid that's acting out and
you don't know what it is, like, maybe this could
open your eyes to trying to provide them help or
maybe have a better understanding of how to work with
them if they actually are diagnosed autistic. But I've noticed
this with reality stars in particular, is that they're saying
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they're diagnosed ly in life and then using that as
an excuse to agregious behavior they've committed in the past.
And I don't get down with it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean I I do think that that that
that's part of it. Like for sure, it's just like
a like, oh I have this thing, So therefore excuse
I don't know, Like and like I said, I just
feel like if it's a spectrum, is it possible that
just like every person has some bit of the spectrum
at the very minor end to the very extreme end,
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Like what who makes it? Since there's not like an
actual test for it, right, It's not like a blood
test that's like you have it or you don't. It's
it's interpretive based upon who's examining you and decides that
you have it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Like truly, though, when we talk about this a lot,
like when are we gonna get to a point I'm
not even just talking about autism, talking about any condition, ADHD, narcisism,
everything like that, right, Like when are we gonna get
to a point where those things aren't excuses for bad
behavior anymore? Because like I think anybody has some form
of something going on in their brain, So like when
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and is it not an excuse?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I don't know. I just don't really see the
point of it as an adult, like I'd see like,
you know, you have a very difficult or awkward life
and someone might say you're autistic, and then you're like,
oh god, that explains everything. Now whatever, but like it
doesn't really change anything.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And understanding of maybe why you don't act a certain way,
or like if you want it as an adult, for
understanding maybe why you've acted a certain way in the past,
or why you maybe don't act the same way as
people around you. I get that, but like I think,
I think not. I don't want to say a lot
of people, but I've been seeing it being used as
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a way to develop some type of excuse for having
bad behavior, and that's why I don't like about it.
So hopefully that stops. And like I think the general
point of this is, we shouldn't be diagnosing ourselves with
anything via the internet. We should be going to professionals
who work in this field and actually know exactly all right, guys,
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Hi.
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Everyone welcome the mother to his death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about a couple of freak accidents,
a woman who incidentally found out that she had advanced
cancer the night before her wedding, and diagnosing yourself on TikTok.
All that and more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So over the weekend, a seventeen month old at Sue
America somehow climbed under a fence, made its way over
to the wolf enclosure and got injured after sticking their
hand through the barrier.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So apparently the parents just got charged with this for
neglecting their child. They were on their phone or something.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, obviously kids could wander
and things that happened really fast and everything, but this
is totally unacceptable. They said they have enough evidence to
show that both of the parents, one of which was
forty three the other was sixty one, walk twenty five
to thirty feet away from this fence where they're eight
or seventeen month old baby climbed under the fence, were
(01:17):
sitting on a bench and playing on their phones while
this whole thing went down and then by standards had
to go get the kid after. They didn't specify exactly
what happened. They said it was injured.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
By the wolf. It bit the kid.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, that's what I was wondering, because they said the
injury was minor, it wasn't anything crazy, and that wolf
wasn't acting aggressive. But you think of like that little
chunky hand coming through a fence, and you don't think
that looks like attractive to a wolf.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It's kind of badass though, to grow up and be
like I got bit by a wolf. Yeah, but I
still like, listen, we have like a major phone parenting
situation happening. Did I tell you we when we went
We went to New York last week to see Stranger
Things on Broadway. It was the best. There's like this
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little Italian restaurant right across the street that's really good
that we go to whenever we go to a theater.
There right, and this mom and her son sat next
to us. The mom looked to be around my age.
The sun was about I would say, twelve thirteen, fourteen
fifteen ish, like around that age, like a young teenager kid.
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They didn't talk to each other. The entire dinner. They
sat right next you know, in New York, the restaurants
so close, so they were like right up next to us,
and they each played on their phone the entire time
and did not say a word to each other the
entire dinner. It was like so sad to what is
really said. It just was really like I just was like,
(02:51):
this is what's happening, And when you look around, it's
just like it's like that everywhere we were at we
were going to Statue a Liberty and there was like
some school trip there and there was all of these
benches lined up before you got on the boat, and
there were boys that looked like like teenagers maybe seventh, eighth,
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ninth grade like around there, and every one of them
was on their phone and no one was talking to
each other. It was it was just like the weirdest
thing ever, Like how are you even friends at that point?
I don't know, It's just so weird. So anyway, I
see it a lot because I go to like a
lot of doctor's appointments with one of my kids. That's sick.
It's just like you go to these like children's only
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ones and the parents are just zoned out on their phones,
whether kids are just crawling around. But the most upsetting
one is when there's not even two siblings that could
play with each other and the parents are just like
sitting there zoned out on their phone, and their kids
just sit like too little for a phone, Like a
five or six year old that's just sitting there like board, unentertained,
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staring at the wall because their mom's or dad is
like playing on their phone.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, yeah, this is kind of what I was trying
to touch on. I wrote an article last week for
The Grosser Room about social media addiction because we didn't cover.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It on this show.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
But Meta and Google in particular got hit with this
kind of groundbreaking lawsuit where this at the time when
the lawsuit was filed, a seventeen year old fought a
lawsuit against them, claiming that she became addicted to the
products such as like Google's YouTube that they own, and
she also went after TikTok, Snapchat and then Meta for
Facebook and Instagram and stuff. So she ended up winning
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six million dollars, which is obviously that's comical in itself.
That's like pennies to these people. It's like doesn't even
affect them in the slightest. But I got into this
conversation in the grocery room and I was being very transparent.
I don't know if you read my full article I wrote,
but I opened it up being like every day I
wake up and my first thought is I need to
go on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, like all check all my stuff,
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and how like pathetic the behavior is. And somebody left
a comment on it being like, well, don't worry because
you won't have time to when your baby's born, and
I'm like, thank god, Like I don't like being like this.
It's it's something that is a behavior that I think
is unacceptable at my age that I act like that.
And obviously it's like a little harder for me to
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get off too, because a lot of the work we
do is on my phone, but it is unacceptable the
amount of time I'm on it. I can't wait to
have a child and not be on my phone. I
seriously cannot.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But the thing is is that the addiction part of
it is exactly what we're talking about with this story
is just like like in regular life, before phone time,
it was just like this, what this obviously would have
never happened, like even if two people were deep in
a conversation sitting on the bench, they wouldn't have been
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completely checked out and zoned out for that long to
not notice their surroundings. And that their child was like
climbing under an enclosure and all that.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
What I'm saying, like, what kind of parent are you
that you don't realize your baby, this a seventeen month
old is a baby. You don't realize your baby is
not with you long enough that it got under a
fence and walked up to a wolf enclosure.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think, like I think that a lot of people,
Like I definitely do feel like I have low grade
addiction to the phone, Like I feel like everybody could
say that, because I physically have to say to myself,
like I've made a decision that when I'm sitting in
the waiting room with the kids and stuff like that,
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and just like do it when we're at dinner, for example,
like the phones are away, all of them because we
need to talk to each other dinner every night. We
need to talk to each other stuff like that. Like
I have to physically be like I'm doing this and
the same thing what you're saying in the morning, like
I wake up in the morning and if it's five o'clock,
the first thing I say to myself is, Okay, I'm
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gonna I'll I'm going to be out of bed at
five point fifteen. I make a a time and say
this is what I'm allowing myself to do this because
if you don't do that, you you you could be
there for two freakin' hours. Like it's it's very easy.
So everybody goes through that, and you just like as
a parent, you really have to force yourself to you know,
(07:19):
it's just a lot of different things that I you know,
you're you experience when you go to Disney or you
go anywhere. When you're with the kids. It's just like,
live in the moment and be with the kids. You
don't need to record every single thing. You don't need
to take a million pictures, like just like I have
five pictures from when I was a child, right like
and guess what, like we all survived and all got
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through it. How often do you go back through videos
of of like a parade that you were watching together,
just like, be there with your kids and experience it
in real life, Like no, that's it's just like the
weird thing anymore. It's the weirdest phenomenon that everybody constantly
just has. You're like watching concerts with through a phone
instead of just being there and watching the concert. Like
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it's a very weird thing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It is, And I agree they were charged with child
and dangermin I have to agree in this case, I
don't think it's one of those mishaps where babies could
seriously in like half a second. I think of the
time Lubert ran out of the hair salon, right, and
like how terrifying that wasn't how quick it happened, But like,
this wasn't one of those cases where you literally turned
around for two seconds and they were gone, Like they
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were totally ignoring the child's whereabouts.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
So now like let's talk about Hershey, though, I mean,
why do they why is their access to get that close?
I feel like even if there's two enclosures, but that's second,
the second barrier should also be people proof.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean there definitely has to be criticism on
their part too, because like, how was there even who
is going to a zoo that's not with a child?
I guess some people like I don't really like annimals,
so I don't understand somebody who would be going there
without a child. Right, But if your demographic is mostly
young children going to see animals, how is your security
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barrier not completely child proof?
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, because this is adults being adults. Like they
put up a fence and they're just like, Okay, clearly
nobody could jump over this fence whatever. But like they
don't think that there's going to be a child crawling
around that could squeeze through a hole. But I mean
that's kind of their job. I just think that I
don't think that Hershey should be completely eliminated from fault here.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, And obviously the main people that should be held
accountable are the parents not watching this baby walking around.
But like, yes, I agree that it shouldn't have even
the baby shouldn't have even been able to get inside
of that security barrier, the quote unquote security barrier.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Do you think child endangerment is like a little harsh?
I just think, like, listen, like I think people people
don't pay attention to their kids on their phone and stuff.
I just think the child in endangerment is like some
of the stories that we talk about on here, when
people get charged with child endangerment, You're like, yeah, they
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should get charged with child in dangerment. This is just
like this to me is like I don't know, I
just feel like it's a little bit it's just a
little bit different, like they were doing what, Like they're
not the only people doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
It's just like, well, let's think, let's think about this
because is it the system that's messed up or what?
Because like, yes, they're not the only people doing this.
And I'm sure I'll have incidents in the future where
I'm not paying attention to my son for a couple
of minutes and then all of a sudden, he's doing
something bad. Right, So like I don't want to be
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too harsh on that front. But at the same time,
I mean, this kid's arm could have got bit off
by a wolf for no reason because they weren't watching him.
But then if you think about it, like that treadmill
case we talked about this week, I'm pretty sure that's
what the dad got convicted of. Is child endangerment.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, and there's a video of there's a video of
him forcing his child to run on a treadmill and
the kid keeps falling off, and the guy keeps making
him braun and run and braun and kit, the kid
keeps like collapsing.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I guess the real question is, like, are people
committing acts of child abuse not getting charged enough? Well,
yes we know that, so yes we know that. But
do parents like this who they have enough evidence suggesting
they were completely being negligent of their child's whereabouts and
put him in a or put him or her we
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don't know the gender of the baby in a harmful situation.
Should they just get off scott free because like they
were just looking at their phones and not paying attention
to their kid.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I just say, like a child in dangermout charge. Let's say,
for example, like the mom or dad worked at a
hospital and then they wanted to go get a new job,
Like they might not be able to get a job
with that charge, and like I don't know that zoning
out on your phone and like and I don't know.
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I just I just like I don't want to go there,
because there's so many things that you could think of.
Like let's say you go to Epcot right where they
like they welcome public drunkenness right during their wine fest,
two parents drinking too much and a kid wanders off,
Like it's just kind of like some stuff falls. It's
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not exactly benign, but it's not that much. There needs
to be like a middle, a middle thing or something.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
That's what I was gonna ask you. Do you think
legislation needs to introduce a charge that's between no charge
at all and child endangerment.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's just hard to say because, like the same time,
it's just like texting and driving. Obviously, like if you
cause an accident and someone gets hurt or dies, then
you want them to get charged with whatever with negligent driving.
I don't know, it's.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Just let us know what you think.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We've all it's just like a very I mean, like
I said, I notice it in public and people should
really do that. But if you look, like, look around
at your surroundings next time. I just did. I just
did it in New York, and it's just like kind
of every single person is doing that. It's it's not
like if you look at the video of these parents,
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you would probably see multiple parents sitting on benches totally
zoned out on their phones while their kids are just
wandering around like it's but their.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Kids didn't get into a wolf enclosure. Well, they made
it perfectly clear. He did not make it into the
wolf enclosure, but he obviously got close enough for the
wolf to bite the baby, So whatever, all right?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
In India, an.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Overcrowded ferris wheel tipped over, trapping people beneath the ride
and injuring thirty ten of them.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Critically so in the grocer room. We have a lot
of amusement ride carnival ride accidents. A lot of times
they happen in India, these bigger ones where the whole
entire ride just collapses. I mean, there's been a bunch
that we haven't even talked about because they happen so frequently, right,
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I mean, and we've done other ones that have happened
all over the world, like the dream World in Australia.
We did a high profile that dissection on that. Six
Flags did me. Those are a little different. Those are
established amusement parks, and most of these incidents that occur
in India are at carnival or fair type environments where
they seemingly not that we have great regulations in the
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United States about these rides, but over there it seems
like just they don't really have many regulations and they're
you know, I looked up this case in particular, where
a ferris wheel of this ride. That's at a situation
like this, a fair or an amusement parks, you'll only
have about thirty five to forty riders. This one had
eighty on it, and the weight of that probably caused
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the ride to tip over, and other witnesses there said
that the bottom of it was not anchored properly. Like,
I don't know what the inspection rate is at carnivals.
I feel like we talked about this before and somebody
wrote in angrily saying that they're highly inspected and they
have all these safety regulations and stuff. But clearly over
there they just have a different set of regular Chians.
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I just like don't like those things. If they want
to go, I mean, if they want to go in
one of the smaller ones, I wouldn't care, But just
like some of those ones that are higher up that
if they do fall they could get her. I'm just
kind of like.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Eh, I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, there
was another major incident not that far away from this one,
where one of those ships that you know rocks back
and forth. That's my least favorite ride, those ones that
tipped over and injured fourteen children. Where was this also
in India.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, if you think about it too, Like when you
go down the shore to the boardwalk, there's permanent roller
coasters there at least, Like in Ocean City, there's a
couple permanent rides there, but a lot of those are
just like kind of carnival rides.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I don't trust those rides either. I would never go
on those. They're like sitting there the salt waters like
eroding the metal. Like I don't. I don't think so,
Like I don't know. Nothing about those makes me feel
safe at all. Like I just think we need to
start introducing worldwide better regulations for rides like this, because obviously,
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in these couple of cases, they could be so dangerous.
All right, A brother and sister were home alone playing
hide and go seek, and at some point they both
went into this unused refrigerator, got stuck and ended up
suffocating to death.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
So this used to be a problem back in the
day with that Deaths like this happened either with old
washing machines or old refrigerators that people would put out
to the curb to the trash or just store them
in a garage. And kids naturally want to play hide
and seek and go into things like this that have
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a door, and they get stuck, their parents can't find them,
and then they're you know, they're thought to be missing
for a couple of days, and then they end up
dying of asphyxia in these things, either just from the
lack of oxygen alone in the thing. Or we have
a case in the gross room of a brother and
sister who were inside of a fridge like that from
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the fifties, like a really old vintage forensic case. But
they're on top of each other, like crushed inside of
this refrigerator.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Didn't We have a story on here about twins that
were either babies or toddlers that got stuck in their
toy chest in a similar manner in their bedroom.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
So.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, so this reminds me of that case. Obviously, we
have a high profile profile death of the missing boys
in Camden. Remember when the kids I thought immediately, yeah,
it's the same thing like that. Just to make a
long story short, if you guys want to read about it,
it's it's a really crazy story that happened local to us.
But these kids were playing outside and they went missing,
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and it was you know, like family outside just hanging
out and some friends and having like a barbecue type situation,
and the kids went missing, and nobody knew what happened
to them, like did they get kidnapped. They look, they
were little, they were under ten years old, so it's
not like they ran away or anything. And then they
found them dead days later in the trunk of a
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car that was on a very adjacent proper property. So
it's a really crazy story and for any of us
that lived through it, it was just awful. But yeah,
so this is this is the same kind of thing.
That's why the now if you put something out to
the trash like that, they tell you to take the
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door off of the refrigerator, take the door off the
washing machine, don't store it one that's not working or
not filled with food in your garage.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh that's interesting. I'd never thought about that, if you're
like getting rid of it having to do that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Because that's I mean, now it's different too, because I
guess the case from the fifties, it was like refrigerators
you still like kind of lock shot. Like I feel
like now if you had one with those little film
pads on the side, like a kid was in there,
they'd be able to push it open really easily.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yeah, it's just different. And I think about I was
thinking about when I was looking for stuff for the nursery,
the toy chest story we had because I you know,
you could get really nice looking ones. But then I
think about that case because oftentimes, like in my basement,
for example, I have a chest from the seventies that's
made out of solid wood and then we put blankets
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in and stuff. But when I like the lid is
heavy for me.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
That's like, oh, that's like finger amputation territory.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, it it really really is exactly like there's been
some moments it's been scary, but I think about, like
that's gonna have to be hidden or go away because
it's hard to open the lid as an adult, and
like God forbid the kid gets in there, they don't
have the force to be able to push that open.
Especially in this case, the parents admitted they left them
home alone for twenty minutes to go pick up groceries.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
That and that is a little they're really really young
to be left home alone. Yeah, where were they five
and eight? Five and eight? Yeah, I mean that's and
listen anytime my parents, like I only left for twenty minutes.
That's forty minutes at least. How do you leave for
twenty minutes to get groceries? It's not even possible. Yeah,
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Like how would you get to go somewhere, get to
a store, go in the store, get what you need, pay,
leave like that. That's it's not even possible. I just
don't think people think about stuff like this, and that's
when it happens.
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to do something or we don't want to do something,
and there's nobody like calling you an idiot. It's just
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like just I won't allow it, Like I want people
to talk and say their reasons for why they would
want or not want to do things. So it's really good.
And also tomorrow we have our YouTube live in the
grossroom where we have an additional mother Knows Death like
episode talking about the latest news stories towards the end
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of the week, and also just like conspiracy theories, the
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Speaker 1 (22:02):
Okay, so that God, this is a really tragic story.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
So this bride got into a car accident the night
before her wedding, and her hospital trip stepping from the
accident ended up revealing that she had stage four cancer.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She was driving home from her rehearsal dinner.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
And got t boned at the light. So then she
went to the hospital, got a CT scan and they
saw these masses all over her body.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, she had eighteen tumors, and they automatically knew just
based on the presentation, they knew it was cancer. So
you're not you're not really supposed to tell anyone that
they have cancer before you have a tissue diagnosis, but
sometimes it's just very obvious that they might say something
like it's very suspicious. So they did a biopsy and
they weren't able to tell what it was, and then
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she had to travel to MD Anderson, which is a
specialized cancer center, and she was diagnosed with something called
follicular dendritic cell carcinoma, which is super super rare. There's
there's only a few hundred cases around the world that
have been diagnosed of it. So when she got she
probably just went to like a regular hospital when she
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had this accident, and they buy upsied it. And oftentimes
you get something in pathology that's very weird and you
don't the pathol just does special staining, special testing, and
they might know what it is, but they always want
to probably get another opinion from a place like m
D Anderson that sees the weird stuff. There's nothing abnormal
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about that. That happens every single day, like doctors bouncing
ideas off of each other, just because when you know,
this isn't like a typical breast cancer. This is like
something weird that they don't They don't know what it is,
so they have to work it up in a different
kind of way to get exactly what it is. These
particular cells are these cells that are present on the
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inside of the lymph nodes. So this cancer could really
start anywhere, and if it's caught early, it has a
pretty good prognosis. If it's caught later, then it has
a worse prognosis. Unfortunately, but since there's only a few
hundred cases, they don't one hundred percent know like what
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the prognosis is. It's just hard to say when you
have such a small population size of people to survey.
So unfortunately, with the eighteen tumors that she has its
metastatic stage four, she still was just like I'm getting
married anyway, Like I'm not gonna let this stop me,
but she's gonna have to get a ton of treatment,
(24:37):
and honestly, like it might not have a good prognosis,
like who, we don't really know.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
It's just really sad. I mean she did go obviously
she ended up getting married the next day, still, because
like what are you going to do at that point?
At least try to have a good day the next day.
But like it's almost do you think if she didn't
get in this car accident that she would have just
never found out and then died quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Or she was having some symptoms. It's just like a
lot of times people don't realize it because especially women,
because we get her period every month, and it's just like,
you know, you really only have what three weeks of
your body feeling okay, not even because typically it's like
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the week leading up to it is when stuff starts
getting bloated and like you just don't feel great. And
then while you have it, you don't always feel great.
So you know, if you have bloating and you don't
really pinpoint it to like this is only from my
period or something like that, it could really it could
(25:41):
be so vague that you really kind of just ignore it.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Well, I think that's what she was saying, was that
she had known autoimmune issues and back pain, but she
never thought anything of it, or she didn't want to
like be dramatic about it, so she never looked into
it further. But then that back pain ended up being
a result, I guess of the masses pushing on that.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and I mean, like think about that, like you walk,
your hip hurts, like whatever it is. As you get older,
it's even and she's pretty young, right, like yeah, I mean,
but as you get older and stuff, you just start
feeling this hurts, this hurts, and then you're just like ah, whatever,
you just kind of blow it off. It's not like
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anything that was so major. She felt like it had
to be addressed right away, so eventually it would have
started causing problems. It seems like it's a slower growing
tumor that she didn't even realize that she had it. Yeah,
so hopefully all works out for her.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
All right, People are over self diagnosing themselves with autism,
and it's all thanks to TikTok.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's it's probably not just autism. It's like everything I
see videos for all the time. But let me give
you because I am diagnosed with TikTok autism for sure,
just based upon this difficulty with social communication. You you
and my husband told me over Easter dinner that I'm
I'm horrible in social situations, So that that's confirmed.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
You can't even deny it.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I don't know what to say to people. I don't know.
I don't know what to say. Difficulty with social communication,
not knowing when to jumping conversations, missing sarcasm, taking things literally,
struggling with eye contact and small talk. Okay, so yes.
Check Sensory sensitivity is being overwhelmed by noise yes, light, texture,
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crowd yes, clothing yes, food yes, over stimulation quickly yes,
hand movements, strong need for routine, and distress when plans
suddenly change, intense, are highly focused interest, and feeling socially
drained after acting in a normal social situation. That's like
(27:53):
probably my number one thing on this list, so so
like every person, but but like I also know almost
every single person in my life that has multiple things
on this list too.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Well, That's what I was gonna say. And it seems
like the experts reviewing this are saying, like, please note
that autism is a spectrum and that just because somebody's
listing off the same symptoms that you have doesn't mean
that you necessarily have it. And they're also saying like
we should all be approaching social media, that a lot
of these videos have misleading or inaccurate information, and that's
(28:30):
very important. And I feel like as a society we've
maybe forgotten that that's the thing, and that people could
go on there and make videos and claim whatever they want.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I just don't I don't really understand the point of
the videos, to be honest with you. Like, let's say,
for example, I saw that and I was like, oh
my god, I really think I have autism. So I'm
gonna go to some doctor and get diagnosed. Why, Like
I'm forty six, I'm here, I've made it this far.
(29:00):
Why what's the diagnosis gonna what is it going to do? Like,
what's the point of any of this?
Speaker 2 (29:06):
What was the point of On yesterday's episode that girls
seeing that tech talk about the pedophilic OCD, like sometimes.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Because she got, because she got, because her thing is
is that she get in treatment years later, Like what
kind of treatment do you get as a forty six
year old that's been living with this? They're entire like
what are you talking about right now?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I will say, like I feel like if you're a
parent that maybe as a kid that's acting out and
you don't know what it is, like, maybe this could
open your eyes to trying to provide them help or
maybe have a better understanding of how to work with
them if they actually are diagnosed autistic. But I've noticed
this with reality stars in particular, is that they're saying
(29:50):
they're diagnosed ly in life and then using that as
an excuse to agregious behavior they've committed in the past.
And I don't get down with it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, I mean I I do think that that that
that's part of it. Like for sure, it's just like
a like, oh I have this thing, So therefore excuse
I don't know, Like and like I said, I just
feel like if it's a spectrum, is it possible that
just like every person has some bit of the spectrum
at the very minor end to the very extreme end,
(30:21):
Like what who makes it? Since there's not like an
actual test for it, right, It's not like a blood
test that's like you have it or you don't. It's
it's interpretive based upon who's examining you and decides that
you have it.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Like truly, though, when we talk about this a lot,
like when are we gonna get to a point I'm
not even just talking about autism, talking about any condition, ADHD, narcisism,
everything like that, right, Like when are we gonna get
to a point where those things aren't excuses for bad
behavior anymore? Because like I think anybody has some form
of something going on in their brain, So like when
(31:00):
and is it not an excuse?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, I don't know. I just don't really see the
point of it as an adult, like I'd see like,
you know, you have a very difficult or awkward life
and someone might say you're autistic, and then you're like,
oh god, that explains everything. Now whatever, but like it
doesn't really change anything.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And understanding of maybe why you don't act a certain way,
or like if you want it as an adult, for
understanding maybe why you've acted a certain way in the past,
or why you maybe don't act the same way as
people around you. I get that, but like I think,
I think not. I don't want to say a lot
of people, but I've been seeing it being used as
(31:40):
a way to develop some type of excuse for having
bad behavior, and that's why I don't like about it.
So hopefully that stops. And like I think the general
point of this is, we shouldn't be diagnosing ourselves with
anything via the internet. We should be going to professionals
who work in this field and actually know exactly all right, guys,
(32:01):
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guess it's tomorrow night. It kicks off right Friday, so
you have your lecture tomorrow and night and then Saturday
we are going to have our live show and there
will be lectures by Scott Duffy and Joe Jacqueline as well.
I am very excited to see them. So please head
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listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder, my training
is as a pathologists assistant. I have a master's level
education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education. I am
not a doctor and I have not diagnosed or treated
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