April 8, 2026 • 41 mins
Actor, author, singer & producer Angourie Rice joins Kyle to chat about growing up in Australian theater & breaking into Hollywood, evolving as an actor & aiming to stay present, Huntsman vs. black widow spiders, and a recurring acting nightmare. After swapping breadmaking adventures, Angourie gives Kyle the scoop on The Last Thing He Told Me season 2, Tasmanian devils, her name’s origin, and the upcoming release of her sophomore book, My Wonderful Disgrace. Don’t miss Kyle & Angourie don chef hats & aprons for a game called Hey Mate, Let me Cook, where they must decipher cryptic lines from their past projects or eat Vegemite.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are we even do? What are we even doing?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi everybody, HIHI. This is our show, right, this is
the show. This is the show. This is what are
we even doing? I'm the host, I'm the de facto host,
and I sit down with actress, musicians, creatives of all
type and we we just have a conversation really about
creative process, you know, and kind of the start and
what's important, how social media is used. They'd like to
(00:29):
say it sits here. We're going to get weird together,
but in a good way, so don't panic everything all right,
Today we have a brilliant actress, author and bread baker,
which I'm really excited to talk with you about that
on Gali Rice is here. So nice to have you.
It's a pleasure all the way from Australia. But you've
started when you were just just a wee one, right,
(00:52):
I mean, and your parents were in the.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Theater, yes, and both in theater. Well, I grew up
like hanging out backstage all the time and having actors
come to the house and rehearsing, and the theater company
my dad worked at was right next to my school,
so I would finish the day at school and then
walk through the park to the theater company and sit
in the theater and just like watch rehearsals and do
(01:16):
homework and do home some time. Yeah. What was good
is that my parents they both my dad especially, but
actually both of them were often making theater for young people.
So I was a test audience, which was really fun
and like a great way to kind of get engaged
with theater at that age and like give feedback. It
was so nice. It was like, what do you think?
(01:38):
But then even when they did shows for grown ups,
I would sit in the back and they would say like, yeah,
just you know, just don't repeat what you know, don't
like memorize these lines subjects.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
The halog was suspect. Yeah, yeah, I mean not for
your young years.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, but yeah, I loved it. I loved growing up
with that environment.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it sort of reminds me when
I was when I was a kid. So I was
growing up, I grew up in rural eastern Washington state,
and I lived in a house. There was one house
between me and then there was a park, and in
that park was the community theater for the town, which
was an old Apple cold storage warehouse. So just a
(02:21):
giant wow warehouse, fire trap, you know, but they had
converted it into a theater and so we my brothers
and I would spend summers in particular there in the evenings,
you know, watching the plays or helping out in the
concessions or running the lights. I mean they were it
was really Yeah, they needed a lot of help, and
we were there. Yeah, sure, what the heck? You know?
(02:41):
And so I know that or I feel like we
share that. Yeah, you know, you go to a place
that's kind of exciting and creating, so.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Exciting, you know. I mean I remember watching the people
up on stage and thinking, wow, everyone here is sitting
in the dark quietly watching him, amazing, holding our attention. Yes,
I wanted to be that person.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Question is when did you feel like, Ah, I think
I found my calling? Was it?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's funny there wasn't actually, And I think it's because
what's what was so great about my parents too, is
that they encouraged my sister and I to be creative
all the time and to you know, like we would
just like make dances and like sit them down and
say this is our dance, and we performed, and we
were just always doing things like that. So it was
(03:32):
just normal to kind of be a performer. And I
did dance and my sister did gymnastics and I just
like loved that. And then when I started auditioning for
you know, movies and TV shows and working in film.
I did my first film austral this like small Australian
movie when I was eleven, and I was just so overwhelmed,
(03:55):
like it was so fun and so incredible. But throughout
high school working in film, I kind of always thought
that it was like it was the backup plan, like
or not the backup plan, but no, it wasn't my career. Yeah,
it was like like school was the thing that I did,
and then acting was so fun and such a like
(04:18):
such a joy, but there was no certainty in it.
I mean there's still no certainty in it. And so
I kind of thought, okay, well, if you know, if
that doesn't work out, I'm still in school. I can study,
I can train to do something else. So there was
never a moment where it was like, oh, this is
what I'm doing. It was probably only when I left
when I finished high school and I applied to university
(04:39):
and I deferred my position because I thought I'm going
to try and work for a year and see what happens.
And I kept working and I was like, great.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is keeps going. Yeah, that's good. And were you
going to go to school stay in Australia or are
you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Because I applied for Melbourne University, I know, just deferred
for a year. And after you defer once you lose
your spot.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So that's terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's okay, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
As you stayed in so you stayed in Australia and
then and so you were working. You didn't in other words,
come stateside. No, when did that?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well? I just kind of always lived in Australia and
then I would travel for work.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's right, because you send a tape in yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And I'm always sending tapes in yes, which.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Is actually a fantastic way because you can control everything
and you can you know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But I think there was some There were definitely ideas
about oh do you want to move to La? Do
you want to kind of go? And yeah, there was like,
oh do we want to move to LA And then
I did. I didn't want to. I wanted to stay
in school with my friends and that felt important to
me to be in school and to be at home
and to have that space that was separate from everything,
(05:57):
And then that just kept being the case even when
I graduated school and I thought, well, I guess I
could move now. It it actually never. I don't know.
I just like love being at home so much.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You have a very strong family and you love for
each other and got I mean you work with your mom, yeah,
and you know you write with her. Have you Did
you ever do theater on stage together or was that
part of not? Really?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Kind of yes. When I was younger, my sister and
I did a bit of theater together. We did two
shows where we we essentially did the same thing in
both shows, but where we kind of came on at
the end as like an apparition. Like both shows there
was like this theme of like a girl throughout that
was always talked about but never seen, and in both
(06:42):
shows like the girl appears at the end, and my
sister and I, she's three years younger, we played that
same role on alternating nights, and one of those shows
was like Separate, but one of the shows my mom
was in it okay, and I remember seeing like a
rehearsal of the show and it was about it a
couple whose child goes missing and watching my mum cry
(07:04):
on stage, and I was just like I was in tears.
It was so hard to watch. Yeah, I couldn't. Even
though I liked acting and I knew what it was
and I understood it, it was like so hard for.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Me to see that handful, right, yeah, because it was real.
You recognize that that was happening and that brings pain.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's intense, right yeah. Yeah, but the theater
feels that way too. Have you done a lot of theater?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I went to a training program where we trained for
repertory theater basically, and so you go through all sorts
of they break you down and then they put you
back together again.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, how did that? Theater?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Don't really I never really liked them. I don't let
anybody in, you know. It took me a long time
to sort of, you know, loosen the screws. But you
do learn technique, you know, yea, And they say you
have the technique, but then you if you need it,
you know what I mean? Yes, So that that's one
approach and then which I agree, it's such a long
(08:00):
journey a least, it's been a long journey for me.
To sort of figure out what to do and really
who I am and how this works. And it was
kind of like you described where you just started doing
it and the doors kept opening. If that's a good image,
I don't know. It's like you got oh someone wants
me to oh and you walk through the door and
you're like, Okay, we're doing this now, and then oh
(08:20):
there's another opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And I mean, I love it so much. And the thing,
and that's the other thing too, is that, like, especially
being in school, sometimes no you would have to miss
out on things, and as a teenager that felt like
the hardest thing in the world, and I would ask
myself is it worth it to be here? And absolutely
it was always worth it to be working because I
loved it so much. Yeah, but I'm curious about, like,
(08:44):
because I didn't train as an actor, what is the
best thing that you learned at acting school.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I learned how to survive on beer and chips for
dinner night after night. It's the kind of thing where
just like doing a scene with someone you know, with
other people in the class. We were thirteen in my class,
thirteen kids, and just the doing you know, and never
(09:14):
it was never good I don't think I was ever
really good, just a disaster, but once in a while
you'd have an inkling of an honest moment you're like, Oh,
that's that's what we're striving for. All the other class
members were really good, and I was I was like, oh,
I don't care. I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Did you really not really care or did you like? No,
I pretended, but inside.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But inside I really did care. But I didn't really
want to care. But then I don't know. I think
it just came as I grew older and got more
comfortable somehow, and then I just sort of said I
don't care. Bucket.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was like, you know, and that's true inside.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah. And now it's like, you know, we do crazy
things like my podcast, we get to have fun and
talk about crazy stuffs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think there is there is that that goes on.
Can you find your own kind of methodology, you know,
what works for you.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I did a play to two or three years ago
in Australia, and everybody else in the play had gone
to acting school and trained as an actor, right, and
I've felt very nervous coming in and learned so much
from them and also just watching how they breathe. That
was the thing too that I was like, I think
that is something they learnt.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, the voice, worker, Yeah, the voice, that's important. I
did a Shakespeare player. I did outdoor theater right after
I graduated, with twelve hundred seat outdoors. So you're like,
your voice is like it's incredibly important. Pretty much? Yeah,
pretty much. So that was important. But the tricky thing
about acting schools and you can kind of come away
with a style it's maybe not real.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't know, did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Like I never let it happen. So as I told you,
I didn't care, so I was like, okay, but when
I watch you, I'm going, oh, she's super grounded, super real,
super organic, super available, you know what I mean, Just
like in the moment, you stay in the moment. And
I don't know if those are things that you can teach. Honestly,
(11:13):
I think, you know, I don't think that. That's where
I think you're You're so great. It's like it's all
in there in the acting school. You don't need an
acting school, you know. I mean, And if you have,
like if you were to do something with particularly difficult
language or something, you might seek someone out or dialect
of course. You know, I don't know. Do you have
people that you look through that you admire.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That you well, I listened to a podcast recently, I
mean my podcast. Okay, so I listened to your podcast
this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This morning.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh cool, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
No, it's super fun.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Good, good way to start the day, everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Great way to start the day. Can't recommend. There you go,
I can't recommend. It was a podcast with Sosharonan and
she was talking about how she's amazing and she went
through a time when she was like like transitioning from
being a child actor to being like a grown up,
and you know, that came with certain challenges and I
(12:10):
related to what she was talking about in the podcast
in terms of being a kid actor. There is a
lot of freedom there kind of before you come a
bit like self conscious about your craft and like the
way that you act and the way that you are.
And I don't know if that's related to being a
kid or to like not having done as much work
(12:33):
or not seeing yourself in as much work, or maybe
it's a combination. So yeah, I really admire her and
her career in the way that she's like she was
such an incredible actor as a young person, and now
is also like an incredible actor, and seeing that that
trajectory has been amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's an interesting transition, right. It's the lemma I think
because I look back on performances of actors of that,
you know, maybe of my generation even, and I look
at their early work, and in some cases it's so
as you said, it's not self conscious at all. They're
just you know, they're not aware of the camera, they're
(13:10):
not aware of how they should position themselves, you know,
everything is They're just in the moment, you know. And
then later on in the careers you're like, oh, they've learned,
like you know, they want to be this type of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
There's some part of me that thinks that old children
are good actors because they're so honest. It's just about
the kind of right environment and direction to kind of
cultivate that. But yes, I think we're all trying to
get back to that honesty that we had as a
children and.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Make a really great point because I think that is
part of the journey. Maybe That's what I'm trying to say,
is like I do feel like I'm trying to go
back to a place where you just don't care, you know,
and you can be in the moment. That's the most
important thing for me, Just like to go, you know,
one on one in a scene with somebody and you're like,
you know, you can tell if they're with you.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Or if they're somewhere.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Else thinking about something else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Do you have any pets?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I have a dog, yes, And when I look at her,
I'm like, like, she is the most present person in
the room right now, And that is inspiring to me
when I think about, like, who is like so present,
it's like babies and like pets for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
For sure. No, that's a really great example.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah. Have you worked with animals before?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, I have. I did a photosop of a snake,
but the snake was so little.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
What kind of snake?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It was just a garden snake. Do we have other
snakes in the show? I forget there are there are.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A lot of snakes.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I know. You have kind of pretty much everything that
can kill you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You've survived, so it can be done.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It can be done. Yeah. There was a spider though.
Just over Christmas, there was a spider that came into
my bedroom. It was so big that I left the room.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, and I slept the spider left. Let you leave
the room.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes, okay, you're afraid of me, but I'm going to
leave of my own vie.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah. Yes, now I'm leaving. You've gotten close enough.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, okay, but it was it stayed in that in
that room, No it did. Yeah, it stayed there.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But I'm definitely of the I do. I would get
the glass and get the paper thing. I don't kill.
I don't like the kill spiders.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So no, I couldn't have killed it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, I do the Yeah, release it in Yeah, catch.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And release, I will say in the in defense of
the Huntsman Spider.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yes, that's a really good idea for a title of
a book. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, they catch flies and mosquitoes inside, so if you
have one inside that's like not in your bedroom. It's
actually pretty good because they're catching and eating the mosquitoes,
so you're not getting baid.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Attain the Huntsman spider, and then yeah, okay, I have
the similar experience with black widows. Oh, come across.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Huntsmen are not dangerous, by the way, They're scared to look out.
They're just scared to look out.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, thought it was a super poison stick. No, no, no,
but just scary. The black widow. Yeah, they will get
your attention and and there you don't. You can't mistake
that for any other spider. You're like, that's a black
widow because it is like a black.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
With the red marble kind.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Of black, shiny body with the underneath and longer legs.
The web is the webs is heavier, the thread is
heavier that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's encountered them.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wood piles are like that, or just
outside the house somewhere.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, they in California. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I just love him so much. I can't help it.
So what is it with this waking.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Up in the middle of the struggle to get to
that's my issue.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I have a trick for you. So if I have
a difficult time getting to sleep, I just go and
I play a round of golf in my head. That's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wait what if I told you I don't know how
to play golf, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You will have to start. That's the first step.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Is that what you struggle with? Or do you wake
up and then I wake up the night? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's the anxious Kyle, and he likes to wake up
and worry about things.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you dream a lot?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I do, but they're very complicated, yeah, very vivid, vivid,
and it's always like there's anxious anxiety and I'm trying
to get somewhere. I'm trying to get something accomplished. You
used to talk about having the actor's nightmareage.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, I mean there are variations. There are variations going
out on stage. You've not read the script, Yes, you
don't know your words. Yes, all the lights are on you.
Everyone's like, why aren't you saying the words? I don't know?
Or same thing on set. I come to set, they say,
you've got the monologue today, right, I'm like, what monologue?
(17:43):
So there's that. Well, there's stuff like there's a lot
with set too, And I often dream about this when
I'm working. I come home and I go to sleep
and I dream about set of like I'm late for
a reason that was out of my control, but nobody
believes me, or there's been an issue with something, and.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
What is this that? Because I have very similar, very
similar it's just a second anxious anxiety thing. There's another
thing you can try, yeah, which is I run through
a gratitude list. So I started just like you know,
I'm sure, I'm so grateful, you know, loving family, and
I'm grateful for this. So you start just putting positives
in front of that, and pretty soon you kind of
(18:22):
it relaxes.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, should we start a sleep podcast?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But you do bake?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I do?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yes. I read that and I was like, we have
to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes. So I became vegan a couple of years ago,
and famously like bread is one of the vegan things
you can go with bread, yeah, you can always eat, yes,
So like vegan baking is like good fun, but it's
tricky as well, right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Challenging some ingredients that you can't you're not supposed to use.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I got I kind of got into bread, not really
during COVID but afterwards because I did one job where
for some reason, every weekend I baked a loaf of bread.
Actually I know the reason. The reason was that I
needed to.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Like need things, yes, to get your.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Just had like yeah, I think exercise.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That was your exercise so you can go to sleep
yet and tire you up. I think I recognized the why.
It's it's all consuming. Right, you're making bread, so you're
not thinking about you can but you really have to
pay attention to what you're doing. Yeah, and you get
to make something that you can share or you enjoy,
but you got to get to share it, which is
nice too.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Do you bake?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I do. I used to bake a lot, like when
I was in school. It was my escape by the
weekends were like I got to stop thinking about class.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yes, and good for that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, it was really good. And I got kind of creepy.
So I got I started with just you know, making
regular bread, and then then I got a grain grud
so then I would buy the wheat and I would
grind no way myself. Yeah, I just I get to
you know, fixiated on things and love that. So do that.
And then I sort of experimenting with different kinds of
(20:03):
and I would make things with cooking.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Are you you're not as precise or you just kind
of vibe it out.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I kind of vibe it out. This is much fun.
I want to see what else we want to talk about.
I know now because I got to go back to
them because I haven't talked.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
About season two of the last thing. He told me. Yes,
so yes, it's a great show with I mean, I
have like the coolest parents Jennifer Garna plays my step
mom and Nikolai Costawaldo plays my dad. So it's about
this like this like woman and she's married to a
man and he has a daughter and he goes missing
(20:38):
and the stepmom and the stepdaughter have to team up
to find him. And so the show, like as did
the book, kind of ended on a cliffhanger and this
like question of, like, you know, will they have a
life together again as a family, the three of them.
And so with season two, I think Laura Dave, the
author of the book, I think it was mostly the
(20:58):
fans of the show in the book will I we
want more, and so she wrote more to the story.
So there's a season two and a book two at
the same time. Yeah, which is great, kind of unusual
but so fun, and people.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Are going to discover it as they go along. Yeah, idea.
People have read the book before, they sort of know
how the story goes, and now you have a whole
new thing to present. Oh that's very cool, and that's
shooting here.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So yeah, we filmed season one and season two both
in la but actually season two took us to Paris
as well.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I'm so sorry, it's just terrible it was tough.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
There's no bread in Paris, famously no bread.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You pretty much survived bread in Paris.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean I did. I was just eating the gats.
There's also there's an amazing vegan bakery chain in Paris,
so I was eating vegancroissants every morning. Tell me, yeah,
it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Then you go back to Australia. You have come here
to shoot and then you go back.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah. We usually that's how it works, but sometimes I
also try and tack on other things. So while we
were filming Season two, because we ended in Paris, I
then went to London for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, tough, tough city.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Really tough, beautiful, and then did a little hopover to Copenhagen,
which is where Nikolai Costawaldo is from, and he hosted
us and showed us around his home city. So nice,
so nice. It was the furthest north I've ever been
in my life. I looked at it on a map.
(22:29):
I was like, yeah, think I think that's really interesting. Yes,
the further south I've been. Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I'm curious about going yeah and visiting penguins.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, I think the furthest South I've been in the
world is Wilson's Promontory, which is the southernmost point of
mainland Australia. I have not been to Tasmania, which has.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Out Are there Tasmanian devils in Tasmania? I'm asking as
a Bugs Bunny fan. Yes, yes, you exist, ladies and gentlemen.
This is something yes, because that was a I mean
that was my cartoon world.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But you want to see penguins too, I.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Would like, yeah, I would like to go yeah down and.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Just sort of well, I thought penguins were everywhere growing up.
I thought every I had penguins because obviously we had penguins.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But no, not the case.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It explains it. That's why I haven't seen any here
in California.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean, there's a Philip Island, which is just off
Melbourne has all the penguins.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okayature they hang out, Okay, you don't necessarily need snow
n No.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And during winter all the the I think they're called
fairy penguins, the little ones, and they do like an
annual kind of migration from land to sea, and you
can watch them.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Oh, I'd love to see that. It's so funny, like
diving off types they like.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
They like run and during COVID they they live streamed it,
which was so fun.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I would totally turn into that all these little penguins. Yeah,
it would make me so happy. It does feel like penguins.
Watch them all day? What see how they moan and grown?
Do you have any impersonations that you do?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Impressions not for camera, but solid American accent. But I
will say when I call home and I've been over
here for a while, I get reprimanded. Yes, say bring
it back.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yes, yes, yes, it's been gone too long.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Sound a little too American.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Gone too long? Crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Sometimes I do put on an American accent, just in
America at the grocery store or something. It just makes
things a bit easier sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
That's a good idea. Is there a particular region that
you draw from.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Or is it just probably just just standing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Southern is when everyone goes for everyone talks like they're
from Texas or like they're from Lo That right, and
you just do that. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It's a British thing.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, they all like to talk like they're you know,
it's a generic kind of Southern.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's so interesting. So you seem to have a couple
of accents in your back.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, I just do like kind of impression, like a
very bad Christopher walk in, which I love to do
because it makes everyone, you know, go like, oh yeah, yeah,
not him, not him again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Scottish Malon Brando. Can I see.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
There's a reason. Why have you ever watched the snail
gelling across a straight razor?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I know it's terrible. Well, Apocalypse Now is one of
my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Does he say that?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Did not mean something similar to that?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And then there's he does a thing with Martin Sheen.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well where you're from, Willard.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Ohio, sir, and they have this little thing so you
can do the dialogue back and forth.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well you can, I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
No, no, but you're going to learn this because you
know what's gonna happen. This is going to help with
your sleep. This is going to put you. You know
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a recording and
send it to you and you turn it on and
you go right to sleep.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I would love that so funny. Oh my gosh. No,
I love that. I love people who can like just
plat I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I do too, and it's always kind of surprising people
do things you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I do love to do like I love a
silly voice. Silly voices are very good, which is not
the same as an impression, but it's a silly voice
is fun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just I have a feeling like you have to have
siblings to have really a silly voice repertoire. Yeah, I've
got two younger brothers, right, so that helps, and just
sound effects in general as a boy, you know, like yeah,
things like that, you know, but I don't know that
that's okay. What do you think of my podcast? Yeah? Perfect,
(26:46):
I think siblings. I think it has I think it's
the thing, you know what I mean, you need like
you need like a fellow conspirator.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And you're the oldest.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm the oldest. Yeah, although I honestly I act like
the youngest I swear really yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think the oldest sibling.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Like, that's your sister's name.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Calliope, calliope wow with a K K A P. Yes. Yes,
but my mom's name is Kate shot for Catherine, and
she she grew up with a lot of Kate's and
Catherine's around, So she said, you know what. I want
(27:25):
my kids to have unique names. So they pulled out
and Gowery and.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Callipe and what's the what's the derivation?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And Gowy is the name of a beach in Australia
where my grandmother lived. It's beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, it's one of a kind.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I'm going to probably I think there's what I think.
Someone messaged me on Instagram and said my friends just
called their baby and Gowery also after the beach, and
I was like, how dare the only one? Yeah? But
I told my mom and she was really happy.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
She was like, you see validation. I love that I
come from my parents Kent and Kathy, and then I'm Kyle. Yes,
and my brother's Craig and my youngest brother is Kent.
So you see they really lean.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
They leaned into sound. So Kent so it's Kent and Kent.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, Kent Junior or Scotty for short McLachlan. And so
they were like, oh, we're going to you know, that
was his nickname. He was the mistake. Sorry, we're going
to edit that out. Definitely, don't edit that out. Yeah, No,
he wasn't a mistake. He was You're not a mistake.
Scotty is in a band. But the best thing is
(28:42):
he's Scotty Potty. So everything goes to, you know, some
form of scatological. You know, I'm Kyle Pyle, Craigie, Peggy
Gootty Potty. Yeah, that's not really scatological, but he was.
We felt bad for him because he had really big ears.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And so he's do you want to talk about authorship
at all?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Mm hmmm. You're a writer?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean yes, thank you. Yes. So my mom and
I wrote our first novel together called Stuck Up and Stupid,
which is really prejudice, pride and prejudice. Retelling, Yes, said
in the present day in Sydney at the beach, and
it's a it's a fun rom com.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's good. That's good. And the second one is.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The second one is coming out in May and it's
called My Wonderful Disgrace. It's set over one night at
a school dance and it's all told in letters and
texts and transcripts and emails, and we follow lots of
different characters what expectations they had for the school dance
and the and the disaster that unfolds.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, what a great idea. Writing is something that is
so well. First of all, it's discipline, right, I mean,
you have but having a partner.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I love my mom so much, and we have a
very similar sense of humor, and we of a lot
of the same things, probably because I'm her daughter.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, that's nice that you share that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's really nice you share that. And I think, like
the main thing that I learned writing with her, well,
we wrote the first draft by hand of our first book,
ye all, like long hand in paper notebooks. That was
draft zero, and then what finally went to print was
probably draft fourteen or fifteen. So I mean they say
(30:28):
that writing is rewriting, and it's very true, true, very
very true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, So I learned that with her. I mean she
is a writer. She studied playwriting and has a PhD
in playwriting, So that's that's what she writes.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that's that's important.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And I remember her telling me specifically with dialogue, which
is what a play is, and that's you know, what
she does. She said, people very rarely say what they mean,
say what they actually feel, which I thought was so interesting.
We were writing a scene where a character was upset
by something and my instinct was to you know that
(31:06):
he says that in his dialogue, and she said, rewrite
it as if he's he wants to make sure that
nobody knows he's upset.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's very clever and so true.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And the mark of a good script, I would say,
you know, when you read.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Something, Yeah, text and subtext and trying to make it
not too obvious, but also yeah, still clear.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, choose your moments to let it, let the curtain
drop maybe and come back up again. All right, ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls. Okay, we're going to play
a game. It's called hey mate, Hey mate, let.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Me cook, Hey mate, let me cook.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Hey might, let me cook, Let me cook. So when
we come back, watch out because it's going to get
messy in here, crusty and messy in here. No, we're
going for it. Okay, we're back with the segment that
we designed, all right, just Forrongoria. It's called hey.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Mte, let me cook, Hey mate, let me cook.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And Gary and I are in Orren Chef's hats. No, well,
we've got white aprons on. We're holding spoons as an
ode to the many genres that you have acted in
and created. Thank you comedy, thriller, young audience, and more,
as well as your love for our love for baking bread.
We are going to wear these chefs where we're wearing
(32:25):
these chef outfits where we're trying to decipher extremely cryptic
log lines that correlate to one past project that we've
been in. In each round, we will take turns reading
two log lines to each other. We've not seen these before, Okay,
do you have something in my teacher, I'm just kidding.
One of them will describe a past TV or film project. Okay,
(32:50):
the other is completely made up. If we guess incorrectly,
we will have to eat a spoonful of vegamite.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Oh where is the vegimi it's hiding.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I' kind of warman out spoonful of vegemite. This is
what that camera? This one? This one? I love you
love vegemite.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't think I've ever tried a spoonful though.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well okay, oh yes, it's like a spread. And since
I'm nice, I'm nice, so nice, and gallery is a
bread baker. We get to chase it with a bite
of freshly baked sour dough. So that's good. Should we
try to just a tear a piece of breadway.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
This tip. Round one, a book made to be set
on fire, and a group of girls who prefer plastic
to paper. That's the first one. The second one is
a puppy stuck in a sealed cage. Only the right
bark can break him free.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I think the first one is very clever. I think
it's mean girls, very.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Good, very good, and it's very clever.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
It's a book that's meant to be banned, is the
band book, and the girls prefer plastic paper, plastic of
a pay bother the plastics. Okay, your turn, criminal activity,
a royal wedding and a flower girl who can't blink.
Here's the second one. All their houses are the same,
their marriages couldn't be more different.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, the second one I think is desperate housewise.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
That's correct, well done.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
No vegemite damage yet or no, okay you want to
try it? No, I'm just curious about it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's an acquired taste, I think, right, you have to
you have to grow up with this as a as
a child. It's like like a little shmeir on.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Bread, right, yeah, on bread with like usually with butter
and with avocado and tomato, like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So it's like a whole Oh I get it. Okay,
run too. Oh right, Yes, woman in a desert with
a self playing guitar, eye drops and a vicious attitude. Okay,
small town with too many secrets and a specific way
of pronouncing the word water. Oh you have.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
An idea, I do, because I've never done anything in
the desert or anything with hisself playing guitar.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But you've had I drops, I have had.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I think it's the second one, and I think it's
mayor of East Town. Very good Pennsylvania. Yeah, the Delco
accent very specific. Did we filmed outside of Philadelphia?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I was staying in Old City and in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I like Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
The historic area is amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
So interesting. I could walk to the Liberty Bell and
see kids on the school field trips. Very cute.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's really fun. I agreed that was when you find
I had a similar thing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Okay, Oh, it's your going. It's my turn to ask you. Okay, joy,
anger and fear. Feelings are big, but bing bong is bigger.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Feelings are big, but it is bigger. You're gonna go
away from here. With a walking.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We're gonna have it, Okay, A pop star and a
pop tart perform who steals the stage?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Hmmm? I was almost in the pop star and pop
talk movie No Let's see I.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I auditioned for the for the pop time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well inside out.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yes, of course film.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
What a good film.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It was so fun to be How fun?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
There were who did you remind me who you voiced
play the dad?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yea?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And do you also voice all of the emotions in
the dad's head or those different people?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Different people, the people that actually do them do the
ones in the head. I believe that's correct.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
What a beautiful movie. And the second one.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Wrote the first one and directed really five years of
development for the script, you know, I mean it's really
they really they dig in, you know, and they make
something really special. I think, so fun to be part of.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Yeah, okay, round three, that's your last chance to have vegemite,
knitting needles in the knitting needles in the sand and
undercover pigeons in the sea.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
One letter, the next one a one letter first name,
who is an undefined soul in love with a girl?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think the it's the second one, and I think
that is every day.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yes it is. That is the correct answer.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I'll have a spoonful just for fun. Well that's a
film I did with Justice Smith. Incredible actor, wonderful energy
of here.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
You want to try a little bit with the bread?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, oh it's quite Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm going to join you. This is my first this
is my first ledge.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Might ever this is the perfect time to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, that's what I thought too. So you does you
have a bite? M? I need to dilute it with
something like you said. You put it in with like
a little avocado, like I would use it as I
would use it a seasoning. M.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Well, think about it. Maybe it's like your coffee too, bite.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's just like my coffee.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I think I know where she's going, you know. Bye one?
Oh no, bye two, bye three? Bite four?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Understood Now I know where you're going with it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It is good, though, I think it tastes better when
I'm away from home.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh, remind you of home. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, that is nice.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Okay. The New York subway systems are down. Mankind must
safely crawl their way home. They can't just walk through
the subway tunnel. A guy with too much hair, declares
war on a lady with nine lives and her husband.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
These are really confusing a guy with too much hair.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
With too much hair Claire's war on a lady with
nine lives and her husband.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I feel like you've already sort of I sort of
anticipated this, and so that's why I had them. I can't.
I don't know what it is. Tell me what it is.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Joe versus Carol.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Joe versus Caroling, the Tiger King the Tiger.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh, my god, man with.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Too much hair. I should have know because it's Australia's Brisbane.
That was when I shot in Brisbane with Kate McKinnon.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And you played the guy with too much hair.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I did not play the guy with you played the husband.
I played the husband Howard Howard Baskin. Well, this is
sort of it was the end of the end of
the road.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Much for joining the things? What am I even doing?
The thing? That those things are? The last thing he
told me. On Apple TV shows starring Jennifer Ganna, Nicolai
Costuwaldo and Me from from Hello Sunshine. The finale is
out on the tenth of April.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh perfect, So we'll make sure to tune in.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yes, tune in Tuni because it takes place in Paris. Yay.
Even better, my wonderful Disgrace novel coming out early with
your mom May, Yes, with my mom. Okay, so that's
that's what I'm even doing?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
What you're even doing?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
What are you even doing?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I've enjoyed the last few minutes of conversation with you
and having my first vegemite experience. I don't know if
we did discover what we were even doing, but I
think we we gave it a good shot.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I discovered that I'm going to take a golf lesson.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Wow. I've discovered that I might keep a container of
vegemite in my refrigerator because it will stay there for
for a while. Right, it lasts for a long Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, it's shelf stable.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So we're safe. Thank you so much for joining us.
Really fun. You're a sport, all right. What are We
even Doing? Is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis
Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created
and produced by Full Picture Productions. Yay, featuring music by
(41:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi everybody, HIHI. This is our show, right, this is
the show. This is the show. This is what are
we even doing? I'm the host, I'm the de facto host,
and I sit down with actress, musicians, creatives of all
type and we we just have a conversation really about
creative process, you know, and kind of the start and
what's important, how social media is used. They'd like to
(00:29):
say it sits here. We're going to get weird together,
but in a good way, so don't panic everything all right,
Today we have a brilliant actress, author and bread baker,
which I'm really excited to talk with you about that
on Gali Rice is here. So nice to have you.
It's a pleasure all the way from Australia. But you've
started when you were just just a wee one, right,
(00:52):
I mean, and your parents were in the.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Theater, yes, and both in theater. Well, I grew up
like hanging out backstage all the time and having actors
come to the house and rehearsing, and the theater company
my dad worked at was right next to my school,
so I would finish the day at school and then
walk through the park to the theater company and sit
in the theater and just like watch rehearsals and do
(01:16):
homework and do home some time. Yeah. What was good
is that my parents they both my dad especially, but
actually both of them were often making theater for young people.
So I was a test audience, which was really fun
and like a great way to kind of get engaged
with theater at that age and like give feedback. It
was so nice. It was like, what do you think?
(01:38):
But then even when they did shows for grown ups,
I would sit in the back and they would say like, yeah,
just you know, just don't repeat what you know, don't
like memorize these lines subjects.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
The halog was suspect. Yeah, yeah, I mean not for
your young years.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, but yeah, I loved it. I loved growing up
with that environment.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's it sort of reminds me when
I was when I was a kid. So I was
growing up, I grew up in rural eastern Washington state,
and I lived in a house. There was one house
between me and then there was a park, and in
that park was the community theater for the town, which
was an old Apple cold storage warehouse. So just a
(02:21):
giant wow warehouse, fire trap, you know, but they had
converted it into a theater and so we my brothers
and I would spend summers in particular there in the evenings,
you know, watching the plays or helping out in the
concessions or running the lights. I mean they were it
was really Yeah, they needed a lot of help, and
we were there. Yeah, sure, what the heck? You know?
(02:41):
And so I know that or I feel like we
share that. Yeah, you know, you go to a place
that's kind of exciting and creating, so.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Exciting, you know. I mean I remember watching the people
up on stage and thinking, wow, everyone here is sitting
in the dark quietly watching him, amazing, holding our attention. Yes,
I wanted to be that person.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Question is when did you feel like, Ah, I think
I found my calling? Was it?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's funny there wasn't actually, And I think it's because
what's what was so great about my parents too, is
that they encouraged my sister and I to be creative
all the time and to you know, like we would
just like make dances and like sit them down and
say this is our dance, and we performed, and we
were just always doing things like that. So it was
(03:32):
just normal to kind of be a performer. And I
did dance and my sister did gymnastics and I just
like loved that. And then when I started auditioning for
you know, movies and TV shows and working in film.
I did my first film austral this like small Australian
movie when I was eleven, and I was just so overwhelmed,
(03:55):
like it was so fun and so incredible. But throughout
high school working in film, I kind of always thought
that it was like it was the backup plan, like
or not the backup plan, but no, it wasn't my career. Yeah,
it was like like school was the thing that I did,
and then acting was so fun and such a like
(04:18):
such a joy, but there was no certainty in it.
I mean there's still no certainty in it. And so
I kind of thought, okay, well, if you know, if
that doesn't work out, I'm still in school. I can study,
I can train to do something else. So there was
never a moment where it was like, oh, this is
what I'm doing. It was probably only when I left
when I finished high school and I applied to university
(04:39):
and I deferred my position because I thought I'm going
to try and work for a year and see what happens.
And I kept working and I was like, great.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This is keeps going. Yeah, that's good. And were you
going to go to school stay in Australia or are
you Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Because I applied for Melbourne University, I know, just deferred
for a year. And after you defer once you lose
your spot.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So that's terrible.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's okay, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
As you stayed in so you stayed in Australia and
then and so you were working. You didn't in other words,
come stateside. No, when did that?
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well? I just kind of always lived in Australia and
then I would travel for work.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's right, because you send a tape in yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
And I'm always sending tapes in yes, which.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Is actually a fantastic way because you can control everything
and you can you know.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
But I think there was some There were definitely ideas
about oh do you want to move to La? Do
you want to kind of go? And yeah, there was like,
oh do we want to move to LA And then
I did. I didn't want to. I wanted to stay
in school with my friends and that felt important to
me to be in school and to be at home
and to have that space that was separate from everything,
(05:57):
And then that just kept being the case even when
I graduated school and I thought, well, I guess I
could move now. It it actually never. I don't know.
I just like love being at home so much.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
You have a very strong family and you love for
each other and got I mean you work with your mom, yeah,
and you know you write with her. Have you Did
you ever do theater on stage together or was that
part of not? Really?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Kind of yes. When I was younger, my sister and
I did a bit of theater together. We did two
shows where we we essentially did the same thing in
both shows, but where we kind of came on at
the end as like an apparition. Like both shows there
was like this theme of like a girl throughout that
was always talked about but never seen, and in both
(06:42):
shows like the girl appears at the end, and my
sister and I, she's three years younger, we played that
same role on alternating nights, and one of those shows
was like Separate, but one of the shows my mom
was in it okay, and I remember seeing like a
rehearsal of the show and it was about it a
couple whose child goes missing and watching my mum cry
(07:04):
on stage, and I was just like I was in tears.
It was so hard to watch. Yeah, I couldn't. Even
though I liked acting and I knew what it was
and I understood it, it was like so hard for.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Me to see that handful, right, yeah, because it was real.
You recognize that that was happening and that brings pain.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's intense, right yeah. Yeah, but the theater
feels that way too. Have you done a lot of theater?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I went to a training program where we trained for
repertory theater basically, and so you go through all sorts
of they break you down and then they put you
back together again.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, how did that? Theater?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Don't really I never really liked them. I don't let
anybody in, you know. It took me a long time
to sort of, you know, loosen the screws. But you
do learn technique, you know, yea, And they say you
have the technique, but then you if you need it,
you know what I mean? Yes, So that that's one
approach and then which I agree, it's such a long
(08:00):
journey a least, it's been a long journey for me.
To sort of figure out what to do and really
who I am and how this works. And it was
kind of like you described where you just started doing
it and the doors kept opening. If that's a good image,
I don't know. It's like you got oh someone wants
me to oh and you walk through the door and
you're like, Okay, we're doing this now, and then oh
(08:20):
there's another opportunity.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And I mean, I love it so much. And the thing,
and that's the other thing too, is that, like, especially
being in school, sometimes no you would have to miss
out on things, and as a teenager that felt like
the hardest thing in the world, and I would ask
myself is it worth it to be here? And absolutely
it was always worth it to be working because I
loved it so much. Yeah, but I'm curious about, like,
(08:44):
because I didn't train as an actor, what is the
best thing that you learned at acting school.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I learned how to survive on beer and chips for
dinner night after night. It's the kind of thing where
just like doing a scene with someone you know, with
other people in the class. We were thirteen in my class,
thirteen kids, and just the doing you know, and never
(09:14):
it was never good I don't think I was ever
really good, just a disaster, but once in a while
you'd have an inkling of an honest moment you're like, Oh,
that's that's what we're striving for. All the other class
members were really good, and I was I was like, oh,
I don't care. I don't really care.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Did you really not really care or did you like? No,
I pretended, but inside.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
But inside I really did care. But I didn't really
want to care. But then I don't know. I think
it just came as I grew older and got more
comfortable somehow, and then I just sort of said I
don't care. Bucket.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I was like, you know, and that's true inside.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah. And now it's like, you know, we do crazy
things like my podcast, we get to have fun and
talk about crazy stuffs.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think there is there is that that goes on.
Can you find your own kind of methodology, you know,
what works for you.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I did a play to two or three years ago
in Australia, and everybody else in the play had gone
to acting school and trained as an actor, right, and
I've felt very nervous coming in and learned so much
from them and also just watching how they breathe. That
was the thing too that I was like, I think
that is something they learnt.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, the voice, worker, Yeah, the voice, that's important. I
did a Shakespeare player. I did outdoor theater right after
I graduated, with twelve hundred seat outdoors. So you're like,
your voice is like it's incredibly important. Pretty much? Yeah,
pretty much. So that was important. But the tricky thing
about acting schools and you can kind of come away
with a style it's maybe not real.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I don't know, did you feel that?
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Like I never let it happen. So as I told you,
I didn't care, so I was like, okay, but when
I watch you, I'm going, oh, she's super grounded, super real,
super organic, super available, you know what I mean, Just
like in the moment, you stay in the moment. And
I don't know if those are things that you can teach. Honestly,
(11:13):
I think, you know, I don't think that. That's where
I think you're You're so great. It's like it's all
in there in the acting school. You don't need an
acting school, you know. I mean, And if you have,
like if you were to do something with particularly difficult
language or something, you might seek someone out or dialect
of course. You know, I don't know. Do you have
people that you look through that you admire.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
That you well, I listened to a podcast recently, I
mean my podcast. Okay, so I listened to your podcast
this morning.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
This morning.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Oh cool, that's so nice.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
No, it's super fun.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Good, good way to start the day, everybody.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Great way to start the day. Can't recommend. There you go,
I can't recommend. It was a podcast with Sosharonan and
she was talking about how she's amazing and she went
through a time when she was like like transitioning from
being a child actor to being like a grown up,
and you know, that came with certain challenges and I
(12:10):
related to what she was talking about in the podcast
in terms of being a kid actor. There is a
lot of freedom there kind of before you come a
bit like self conscious about your craft and like the
way that you act and the way that you are.
And I don't know if that's related to being a
kid or to like not having done as much work
(12:33):
or not seeing yourself in as much work, or maybe
it's a combination. So yeah, I really admire her and
her career in the way that she's like she was
such an incredible actor as a young person, and now
is also like an incredible actor, and seeing that that
trajectory has been amazing.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It's an interesting transition, right. It's the lemma I think
because I look back on performances of actors of that,
you know, maybe of my generation even, and I look
at their early work, and in some cases it's so
as you said, it's not self conscious at all. They're
just you know, they're not aware of the camera, they're
(13:10):
not aware of how they should position themselves, you know,
everything is They're just in the moment, you know. And
then later on in the careers you're like, oh, they've learned,
like you know, they want to be this type of Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
There's some part of me that thinks that old children
are good actors because they're so honest. It's just about
the kind of right environment and direction to kind of
cultivate that. But yes, I think we're all trying to
get back to that honesty that we had as a
children and.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Make a really great point because I think that is
part of the journey. Maybe That's what I'm trying to say,
is like I do feel like I'm trying to go
back to a place where you just don't care, you know,
and you can be in the moment. That's the most
important thing for me, Just like to go, you know,
one on one in a scene with somebody and you're like,
you know, you can tell if they're with you.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Or if they're somewhere.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Else thinking about something else. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Do you have any pets?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
So?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I have a dog, yes, And when I look at her,
I'm like, like, she is the most present person in
the room right now, And that is inspiring to me
when I think about, like, who is like so present,
it's like babies and like pets for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
For sure. No, that's a really great example.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Yeah. Have you worked with animals before?
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, I have. I did a photosop of a snake,
but the snake was so little.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
What kind of snake?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
It was just a garden snake. Do we have other
snakes in the show? I forget there are there are.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
A lot of snakes.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I know. You have kind of pretty much everything that
can kill you.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There are a lot of.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You've survived, so it can be done.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It can be done. Yeah. There was a spider though.
Just over Christmas, there was a spider that came into
my bedroom. It was so big that I left the room.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, and I slept the spider left. Let you leave
the room.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes, okay, you're afraid of me, but I'm going to
leave of my own vie.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yeah. Yes, now I'm leaving. You've gotten close enough.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yeah, okay, but it was it stayed in that in
that room, No it did. Yeah, it stayed there.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But I'm definitely of the I do. I would get
the glass and get the paper thing. I don't kill.
I don't like the kill spiders.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So no, I couldn't have killed it.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
No, I do the Yeah, release it in Yeah, catch.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And release, I will say in the in defense of
the Huntsman Spider.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yes, that's a really good idea for a title of
a book. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, they catch flies and mosquitoes inside, so if you
have one inside that's like not in your bedroom. It's
actually pretty good because they're catching and eating the mosquitoes,
so you're not getting baid.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Attain the Huntsman spider, and then yeah, okay, I have
the similar experience with black widows. Oh, come across.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Huntsmen are not dangerous, by the way, They're scared to look out.
They're just scared to look out.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, thought it was a super poison stick. No, no, no,
but just scary. The black widow. Yeah, they will get
your attention and and there you don't. You can't mistake
that for any other spider. You're like, that's a black
widow because it is like a black.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
With the red marble kind.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Of black, shiny body with the underneath and longer legs.
The web is the webs is heavier, the thread is
heavier that.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
It's encountered them.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Wood piles are like that, or just
outside the house somewhere.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, they in California. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I just love him so much. I can't help it.
So what is it with this waking.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Up in the middle of the struggle to get to
that's my issue.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
I have a trick for you. So if I have
a difficult time getting to sleep, I just go and
I play a round of golf in my head. That's brilliant.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wait what if I told you I don't know how
to play golf, Well.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
You will have to start. That's the first step.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Is that what you struggle with? Or do you wake
up and then I wake up the night? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's the anxious Kyle, and he likes to wake up
and worry about things.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Do you dream a lot?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
I do, but they're very complicated, yeah, very vivid, vivid,
and it's always like there's anxious anxiety and I'm trying
to get somewhere. I'm trying to get something accomplished. You
used to talk about having the actor's nightmareage.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yes, I mean there are variations. There are variations going
out on stage. You've not read the script, Yes, you
don't know your words. Yes, all the lights are on you.
Everyone's like, why aren't you saying the words? I don't know?
Or same thing on set. I come to set, they say,
you've got the monologue today, right, I'm like, what monologue?
(17:43):
So there's that. Well, there's stuff like there's a lot
with set too, And I often dream about this when
I'm working. I come home and I go to sleep
and I dream about set of like I'm late for
a reason that was out of my control, but nobody
believes me, or there's been an issue with something, and.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
What is this that? Because I have very similar, very
similar it's just a second anxious anxiety thing. There's another
thing you can try, yeah, which is I run through
a gratitude list. So I started just like you know,
I'm sure, I'm so grateful, you know, loving family, and
I'm grateful for this. So you start just putting positives
in front of that, and pretty soon you kind of
(18:22):
it relaxes.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, should we start a sleep podcast?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But you do bake?
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I do?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yes. I read that and I was like, we have
to talk about this.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes. So I became vegan a couple of years ago,
and famously like bread is one of the vegan things
you can go with bread, yeah, you can always eat, yes,
So like vegan baking is like good fun, but it's
tricky as well, right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Challenging some ingredients that you can't you're not supposed to use.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I got I kind of got into bread, not really
during COVID but afterwards because I did one job where
for some reason, every weekend I baked a loaf of bread.
Actually I know the reason. The reason was that I
needed to.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Like need things, yes, to get your.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Just had like yeah, I think exercise.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
That was your exercise so you can go to sleep
yet and tire you up. I think I recognized the why.
It's it's all consuming. Right, you're making bread, so you're
not thinking about you can but you really have to
pay attention to what you're doing. Yeah, and you get
to make something that you can share or you enjoy,
but you got to get to share it, which is
nice too.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Do you bake?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
I do. I used to bake a lot, like when
I was in school. It was my escape by the
weekends were like I got to stop thinking about class.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yes, and good for that.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, it was really good. And I got kind of creepy.
So I got I started with just you know, making
regular bread, and then then I got a grain grud
so then I would buy the wheat and I would
grind no way myself. Yeah, I just I get to
you know, fixiated on things and love that. So do that.
And then I sort of experimenting with different kinds of
(20:03):
and I would make things with cooking.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Are you you're not as precise or you just kind
of vibe it out.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I kind of vibe it out. This is much fun.
I want to see what else we want to talk about.
I know now because I got to go back to
them because I haven't talked.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
About season two of the last thing. He told me. Yes,
so yes, it's a great show with I mean, I
have like the coolest parents Jennifer Garna plays my step
mom and Nikolai Costawaldo plays my dad. So it's about
this like this like woman and she's married to a
man and he has a daughter and he goes missing
(20:38):
and the stepmom and the stepdaughter have to team up
to find him. And so the show, like as did
the book, kind of ended on a cliffhanger and this
like question of, like, you know, will they have a
life together again as a family, the three of them.
And so with season two, I think Laura Dave, the
author of the book, I think it was mostly the
(20:58):
fans of the show in the book will I we
want more, and so she wrote more to the story.
So there's a season two and a book two at
the same time. Yeah, which is great, kind of unusual
but so fun, and people.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Are going to discover it as they go along. Yeah, idea.
People have read the book before, they sort of know
how the story goes, and now you have a whole
new thing to present. Oh that's very cool, and that's
shooting here.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
So yeah, we filmed season one and season two both
in la but actually season two took us to Paris
as well.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I'm so sorry, it's just terrible it was tough.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
There's no bread in Paris, famously no bread.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You pretty much survived bread in Paris.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean I did. I was just eating the gats.
There's also there's an amazing vegan bakery chain in Paris,
so I was eating vegancroissants every morning. Tell me, yeah,
it was great. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Then you go back to Australia. You have come here
to shoot and then you go back.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah. We usually that's how it works, but sometimes I
also try and tack on other things. So while we
were filming Season two, because we ended in Paris, I
then went to London for a little bit.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, tough, tough city.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Really tough, beautiful, and then did a little hopover to Copenhagen,
which is where Nikolai Costawaldo is from, and he hosted
us and showed us around his home city. So nice,
so nice. It was the furthest north I've ever been
in my life. I looked at it on a map.
(22:29):
I was like, yeah, think I think that's really interesting. Yes,
the further south I've been. Do you want to know?
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I'm curious about going yeah and visiting penguins.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, I think the furthest South I've been in the
world is Wilson's Promontory, which is the southernmost point of
mainland Australia. I have not been to Tasmania, which has.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Out Are there Tasmanian devils in Tasmania? I'm asking as
a Bugs Bunny fan. Yes, yes, you exist, ladies and gentlemen.
This is something yes, because that was a I mean
that was my cartoon world.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But you want to see penguins too, I.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Would like, yeah, I would like to go yeah down and.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Just sort of well, I thought penguins were everywhere growing up.
I thought every I had penguins because obviously we had penguins.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
But no, not the case.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It explains it. That's why I haven't seen any here
in California.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I mean, there's a Philip Island, which is just off
Melbourne has all the penguins.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Okayature they hang out, Okay, you don't necessarily need snow
n No.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
And during winter all the the I think they're called
fairy penguins, the little ones, and they do like an
annual kind of migration from land to sea, and you
can watch them.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Oh, I'd love to see that. It's so funny, like
diving off types they like.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
They like run and during COVID they they live streamed it,
which was so fun.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
I would totally turn into that all these little penguins. Yeah,
it would make me so happy. It does feel like penguins.
Watch them all day? What see how they moan and grown?
Do you have any impersonations that you do?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Impressions not for camera, but solid American accent. But I
will say when I call home and I've been over
here for a while, I get reprimanded. Yes, say bring
it back.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yes, yes, yes, it's been gone too long.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Sound a little too American.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Gone too long? Crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Sometimes I do put on an American accent, just in
America at the grocery store or something. It just makes
things a bit easier sometimes.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
That's a good idea. Is there a particular region that
you draw from.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Or is it just probably just just standing.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Southern is when everyone goes for everyone talks like they're
from Texas or like they're from Lo That right, and
you just do that. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
It's a British thing.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, they all like to talk like they're you know,
it's a generic kind of Southern.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's so interesting. So you seem to have a couple
of accents in your back.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
No, I just do like kind of impression, like a
very bad Christopher walk in, which I love to do
because it makes everyone, you know, go like, oh yeah, yeah,
not him, not him again.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Scottish Malon Brando. Can I see.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
There's a reason. Why have you ever watched the snail
gelling across a straight razor?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I know it's terrible. Well, Apocalypse Now is one of
my favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Does he say that?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Did not mean something similar to that?
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:35):
And then there's he does a thing with Martin Sheen.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well where you're from, Willard.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Ohio, sir, and they have this little thing so you
can do the dialogue back and forth.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well you can, I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
No, no, but you're going to learn this because you
know what's gonna happen. This is going to help with
your sleep. This is going to put you. You know
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a recording and
send it to you and you turn it on and
you go right to sleep.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I would love that so funny. Oh my gosh. No,
I love that. I love people who can like just
plat I do too.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I do too, and it's always kind of surprising people
do things you're like, WHOA.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, I do love to do like I love a
silly voice. Silly voices are very good, which is not
the same as an impression, but it's a silly voice
is fun sometimes.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Just I have a feeling like you have to have
siblings to have really a silly voice repertoire. Yeah, I've
got two younger brothers, right, so that helps, and just
sound effects in general as a boy, you know, like yeah,
things like that, you know, but I don't know that
that's okay. What do you think of my podcast? Yeah? Perfect,
(26:46):
I think siblings. I think it has I think it's
the thing, you know what I mean, you need like
you need like a fellow conspirator.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And you're the oldest.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
I'm the oldest. Yeah, although I honestly I act like
the youngest I swear really yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think the oldest sibling.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Like, that's your sister's name.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Calliope, calliope wow with a K K A P. Yes. Yes,
but my mom's name is Kate shot for Catherine, and
she she grew up with a lot of Kate's and
Catherine's around, So she said, you know what. I want
(27:25):
my kids to have unique names. So they pulled out
and Gowery and.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Callipe and what's the what's the derivation?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
And Gowy is the name of a beach in Australia
where my grandmother lived. It's beautiful, thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, it's one of a kind.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I'm going to probably I think there's what I think.
Someone messaged me on Instagram and said my friends just
called their baby and Gowery also after the beach, and
I was like, how dare the only one? Yeah? But
I told my mom and she was really happy.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
She was like, you see validation. I love that I
come from my parents Kent and Kathy, and then I'm Kyle. Yes,
and my brother's Craig and my youngest brother is Kent.
So you see they really lean.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
They leaned into sound. So Kent so it's Kent and Kent.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Yeah, Kent Junior or Scotty for short McLachlan. And so
they were like, oh, we're going to you know, that
was his nickname. He was the mistake. Sorry, we're going
to edit that out. Definitely, don't edit that out. Yeah, No,
he wasn't a mistake. He was You're not a mistake.
Scotty is in a band. But the best thing is
(28:42):
he's Scotty Potty. So everything goes to, you know, some
form of scatological. You know, I'm Kyle Pyle, Craigie, Peggy
Gootty Potty. Yeah, that's not really scatological, but he was.
We felt bad for him because he had really big ears.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And so he's do you want to talk about authorship
at all?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Mm hmmm. You're a writer?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean yes, thank you. Yes. So my mom and
I wrote our first novel together called Stuck Up and Stupid,
which is really prejudice, pride and prejudice. Retelling, Yes, said
in the present day in Sydney at the beach, and
it's a it's a fun rom com.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's good. That's good. And the second one is.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
The second one is coming out in May and it's
called My Wonderful Disgrace. It's set over one night at
a school dance and it's all told in letters and
texts and transcripts and emails, and we follow lots of
different characters what expectations they had for the school dance
and the and the disaster that unfolds.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, what a great idea. Writing is something that is
so well. First of all, it's discipline, right, I mean,
you have but having a partner.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I love my mom so much, and we have a
very similar sense of humor, and we of a lot
of the same things, probably because I'm her daughter.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yes, that's nice that you share that.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It's really nice you share that. And I think, like
the main thing that I learned writing with her, well,
we wrote the first draft by hand of our first book,
ye all, like long hand in paper notebooks. That was
draft zero, and then what finally went to print was
probably draft fourteen or fifteen. So I mean they say
(30:28):
that writing is rewriting, and it's very true, true, very
very true.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, So I learned that with her. I mean she
is a writer. She studied playwriting and has a PhD
in playwriting, So that's that's what she writes.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yeah, that's that's important.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
And I remember her telling me specifically with dialogue, which
is what a play is, and that's you know, what
she does. She said, people very rarely say what they mean,
say what they actually feel, which I thought was so interesting.
We were writing a scene where a character was upset
by something and my instinct was to you know that
(31:06):
he says that in his dialogue, and she said, rewrite
it as if he's he wants to make sure that
nobody knows he's upset.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
That's very clever and so true.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
And the mark of a good script, I would say,
you know, when you read.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Something, Yeah, text and subtext and trying to make it
not too obvious, but also yeah, still clear.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, choose your moments to let it, let the curtain
drop maybe and come back up again. All right, ladies
and gentlemen, boys and girls. Okay, we're going to play
a game. It's called hey mate, Hey mate, let.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Me cook, Hey mate, let me cook.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Hey might, let me cook, Let me cook. So when
we come back, watch out because it's going to get
messy in here, crusty and messy in here. No, we're
going for it. Okay, we're back with the segment that
we designed, all right, just Forrongoria. It's called hey.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Mte, let me cook, Hey mate, let me cook.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And Gary and I are in Orren Chef's hats. No, well,
we've got white aprons on. We're holding spoons as an
ode to the many genres that you have acted in
and created. Thank you comedy, thriller, young audience, and more,
as well as your love for our love for baking bread.
We are going to wear these chefs where we're wearing
(32:25):
these chef outfits where we're trying to decipher extremely cryptic
log lines that correlate to one past project that we've
been in. In each round, we will take turns reading
two log lines to each other. We've not seen these before, Okay,
do you have something in my teacher, I'm just kidding.
One of them will describe a past TV or film project. Okay,
(32:50):
the other is completely made up. If we guess incorrectly,
we will have to eat a spoonful of vegamite.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Oh where is the vegimi it's hiding.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I' kind of warman out spoonful of vegemite. This is
what that camera? This one? This one? I love you
love vegemite.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't think I've ever tried a spoonful though.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well okay, oh yes, it's like a spread. And since
I'm nice, I'm nice, so nice, and gallery is a
bread baker. We get to chase it with a bite
of freshly baked sour dough. So that's good. Should we
try to just a tear a piece of breadway.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, go on.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
This tip. Round one, a book made to be set
on fire, and a group of girls who prefer plastic
to paper. That's the first one. The second one is
a puppy stuck in a sealed cage. Only the right
bark can break him free.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I think the first one is very clever. I think
it's mean girls, very.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Good, very good, and it's very clever.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
It's a book that's meant to be banned, is the
band book, and the girls prefer plastic paper, plastic of
a pay bother the plastics. Okay, your turn, criminal activity,
a royal wedding and a flower girl who can't blink.
Here's the second one. All their houses are the same,
their marriages couldn't be more different.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Well, the second one I think is desperate housewise.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
That's correct, well done.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
No vegemite damage yet or no, okay you want to
try it? No, I'm just curious about it. Yeah. Yeah,
it's an acquired taste, I think, right, you have to
you have to grow up with this as a as
a child. It's like like a little shmeir on.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Bread, right, yeah, on bread with like usually with butter
and with avocado and tomato, like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
So it's like a whole Oh I get it. Okay,
run too. Oh right, Yes, woman in a desert with
a self playing guitar, eye drops and a vicious attitude. Okay,
small town with too many secrets and a specific way
of pronouncing the word water. Oh you have.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
An idea, I do, because I've never done anything in
the desert or anything with hisself playing guitar.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
But you've had I drops, I have had.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I think it's the second one, and I think it's
mayor of East Town. Very good Pennsylvania. Yeah, the Delco
accent very specific. Did we filmed outside of Philadelphia?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I was staying in Old City and in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
I like Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
It's great.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
The historic area is amazing.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
So interesting. I could walk to the Liberty Bell and
see kids on the school field trips. Very cute.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's really fun. I agreed that was when you find
I had a similar thing.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Okay, Oh, it's your going. It's my turn to ask you. Okay, joy,
anger and fear. Feelings are big, but bing bong is bigger.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Feelings are big, but it is bigger. You're gonna go
away from here. With a walking.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We're gonna have it, Okay, A pop star and a
pop tart perform who steals the stage?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Hmmm? I was almost in the pop star and pop
talk movie No Let's see I.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I auditioned for the for the pop time.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well inside out.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yes, of course film.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
What a good film.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
It was so fun to be How fun?
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
There were who did you remind me who you voiced
play the dad?
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yea?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
And do you also voice all of the emotions in
the dad's head or those different people?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Different people, the people that actually do them do the
ones in the head. I believe that's correct.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
What a beautiful movie. And the second one.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Wrote the first one and directed really five years of
development for the script, you know, I mean it's really
they really they dig in, you know, and they make
something really special. I think, so fun to be part of.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Yeah, okay, round three, that's your last chance to have vegemite,
knitting needles in the knitting needles in the sand and
undercover pigeons in the sea.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
One letter, the next one a one letter first name,
who is an undefined soul in love with a girl?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I think the it's the second one, and I think
that is every day.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yes it is. That is the correct answer.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
I'll have a spoonful just for fun. Well that's a
film I did with Justice Smith. Incredible actor, wonderful energy
of here.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
You want to try a little bit with the bread?
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, oh it's quite Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'm going to join you. This is my first this
is my first ledge.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Might ever this is the perfect time to do it.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, that's what I thought too. So you does you
have a bite? M? I need to dilute it with
something like you said. You put it in with like
a little avocado, like I would use it as I
would use it a seasoning. M.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Well, think about it. Maybe it's like your coffee too, bite.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
It's just like my coffee.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
I think I know where she's going, you know. Bye one?
Oh no, bye two, bye three? Bite four?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Understood Now I know where you're going with it.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
It is good, though, I think it tastes better when
I'm away from home.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Oh, remind you of home. That's nice.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, that is nice.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Okay. The New York subway systems are down. Mankind must
safely crawl their way home. They can't just walk through
the subway tunnel. A guy with too much hair, declares
war on a lady with nine lives and her husband.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
These are really confusing a guy with too much hair.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
With too much hair Claire's war on a lady with
nine lives and her husband.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I feel like you've already sort of I sort of
anticipated this, and so that's why I had them. I can't.
I don't know what it is. Tell me what it is.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Joe versus Carol.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Joe versus Caroling, the Tiger King the Tiger.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Oh, my god, man with.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Too much hair. I should have know because it's Australia's Brisbane.
That was when I shot in Brisbane with Kate McKinnon.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
And you played the guy with too much hair.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I did not play the guy with you played the husband.
I played the husband Howard Howard Baskin. Well, this is
sort of it was the end of the end of
the road.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Much for joining the things? What am I even doing?
The thing? That those things are? The last thing he
told me. On Apple TV shows starring Jennifer Ganna, Nicolai
Costuwaldo and Me from from Hello Sunshine. The finale is
out on the tenth of April.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh perfect, So we'll make sure to tune in.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yes, tune in Tuni because it takes place in Paris. Yay.
Even better, my wonderful Disgrace novel coming out early with
your mom May, Yes, with my mom. Okay, so that's
that's what I'm even doing?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
What you're even doing?
Speaker 3 (40:16):
What are you even doing?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I've enjoyed the last few minutes of conversation with you
and having my first vegemite experience. I don't know if
we did discover what we were even doing, but I
think we we gave it a good shot.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
I discovered that I'm going to take a golf lesson.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Wow. I've discovered that I might keep a container of
vegemite in my refrigerator because it will stay there for
for a while. Right, it lasts for a long Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, it's shelf stable.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
So we're safe. Thank you so much for joining us.
Really fun. You're a sport, all right. What are We
even Doing? Is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis
Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created
and produced by Full Picture Productions. Yay, featuring music by
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