April 15, 2026 • 36 mins
Singer, songwriter & actor Justine Skye helps Kyle figure out what we’re even doing this week with stories about her time as a teen Tumblr sensation, her latest music & how she reinvented her sound, why Ibiza inspires her, and the current state of social media. Kyle gets the scoop on Justine’s acting career & what she loves about the art form, why binge watching TV is therapeutic, that time Justine rescued a dog from an ex, and her upcoming Candy Tour. Don’t miss Kye & Justine celebrate their love for dance music in a game called Dance Therapy with Justine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do we even do?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What are we even doing?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Kyle McLaughlin. I'm your host, and this is the
show where we we talked with artists, musicians, actors, creative
people of all types, and we we talked about creative process,
what they love, what inspires them, how they use social
and today we have a very exciting guest actress, musician
and you could say musician actress. I like this one.
(00:32):
You were retired Tumblr sensation Justine Sky is here, So
a retired Tumblr sensation. That that's pretty awesome. I mean
I missed Tumblr, so so yeah, somehow I went past it,
but I understand it was at the beginning, it was
a pretty nice platform to be able to present. It
(00:54):
was the best who you were right to an audience.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was the most freeing, Like I feel like that's where, well,
that is where a lot of people first met me.
And it's so interesting because I feel like I was
obviously it was young, and I was figuring out who
I was, but it was the perfect platform to do so.
And also at the time, like people were just like
judging you as they do now, Like it wasn't so
(01:18):
rapid as it is now, Like you literally post something
and like sixty seconds later you're like trending and everyone
hates you.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, but like what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's so much fun? No, that's terrible. So you started
you're roughly seventeen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I was like sixteen seventeen Okay, Yeah, I was
in high school and a friend of mine school, her
name is Ja Day, and she was more like emo girl,
like on like side of Tumblr, and so she had
that and she was telling me about it and she's like,
there's this new thing, like I have three thousand followers,
like it's so cool.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And I'm like, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I just made it a competition and I was like,
I bet I can get more followers.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Never heard of this thing before ever in my life.
Never didn't even know what it was. But I just
got so interested in it, and I was like hmm,
and I don't know. I just I got on there.
I started like taking pictures being myself. It was like
your own website.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, pretty much, and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You can just like I start. That's why I got
really like into coding as well.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I guess my space d as.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I got into like coding a little bit right because
I would like to hide everything.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
On my MySpace and just make it like very minimal.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Right, But so so you adapted it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, just you make it your own and it's literally
just it's your website. And so it just felt so
cool to be like sixteen seventeen, having my own website
and even answer questions. It'd really just get to do
whatever you want. And you can write, you can write something,
you can answer anonymous questions, you can post videos.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It was just everything that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's amazing. I mean I grew up at a time
when that was you did. Nothing like that existed, of course,
but you didn't have a way to present who you
were to an audience unless you were going through a
pr agent something like that, or you did a television
show or a film or music. You know, but there
was no real the visual didn't have that kind of control.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, exactly. So it's like a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And then I feel like it kind of just got
out of hand.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well yeah, I think they had to they put some
limitations on. Yeah, tumblers, I remember, Yeah, do you find inspiration?
I mean, as you journal, things come up and ideas
maybe for songs.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well I just started like two days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, well, we're excited. I just started to excited to come.
We're excited for what's to come because you got the
EP is. Yes, Candy, it's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, it's It's been such an amazing process making this
project and very like freeing. I feel like I've kind
of lost myself as an artist along the way. I
got signed when I was seventeen. I'm thirty.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean that's a journey. You've been in the business
for a while. Yeah, I was going to have cycles, right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Of course, and as there are people that are like
you should just give up, or people like there have
been people that have like reached this point and or
kind of like quit before they've even been reached this point.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Is I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I feel like I'm just again, like with this new
music and this new sound, and I'm having the most
fun that I've ever had. I feel like there was
a point where it became like a job that I
wasn't really getting paid from, but I felt like I
had to do it. And I don't feel like I
have to do it. I want to do it, you know,
(04:19):
And I feel the love for making music again, and
I'm so excited and I can't wait to perform.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And that's all good things creativity. It should be fun,
it should be exciting, it should make you you know.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So, like an artist who I love comes up to
me and he's like talking about his album and how
he's like going to take some time and he's working
on it, and he was like, oh, well, you know,
you just started putting out music, you get it.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And I'm like, no, I just started putting out music.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I was like wait what, But I was like,
you know what, I actually kind of like like that
because there's a whole new audience that's paying attention or
like discovering me for the first time. And it's like
it's a beautiful thing because this is who I really am,
you know, like now I've grown into myself, Like I
really understand what I want to do, like what I
want to sound, like how I want to present myself
to the world. And so this is how people are
(05:05):
meeting me for the first time. Yeah sure, this is
the first Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I love it. There's there's growth, you know, as an artist,
and as you said, you start at seventeen and you
are certainly a very different person at seventeen than you
are thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I was on Tumblr.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I mean, you know, I mean it's one of those things.
But you found a way you knew you wanted to create,
You knew you want this is what you wanted to do,
as well as the acting, which I want to talk
to about that, but the music primarily, and talk to
me about finding the sound because I'm I'm musical and
I play instruments and stuff and I but this process
as a musician of finding the sound that you want,
(05:39):
it's almost like you know something is you're going for
something that you already kind of know, but it's just
sort of trying to fine tune it. What is that?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, Like I was filming a show for two seasons
and I wanted to like work on the music as well,
but I knowing me, I have to focus on one
thing at a time. So it's like if I I
can't give my all and like actually create the way
that I would like to while I'm on set for
fourteen hours and then like I only.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Have the weekends.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So it's like I was like, all right, let me
just like focus on this until it's over and then
I can figure out the music again. I took a break,
and I was independent at the time as well, and
I kind of just like I don't know, one would
say I was like crashing out and like, but I
was in this where I was so confused about who
I was as an artist and like who I was
as a person. I was like partying a lot and
(06:30):
like sneaking into parties and doing this like whatever, Like
I mean, like iconic parties I snuck.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Into, of course, but there was no question.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But it's like I'm in these environments around all of
these people that I admired and I respect, and I'm like,
I want them to be dancing to my music, Like
why am I making sad R and B songs about
how these guys who do not matter anymore in my
life broke my heart that I have to sing forever?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And so I'm like I'm like parting with my friends,
I'm dancing, I'm traveling, doing like what I want to do,
and really just finding out who I felt like I
didn't know who I was. And i go to Ibiza
and I'm hearing like different things. I'm going to a
bunch of raves and I'm like, I want my music
to be playing in these environments. Yeah, and so I
(07:18):
just started to lock in and figure out, like how
do I make that make sense with me? Because obviously,
like like I'm a black girl from Brooklyn, New York,
but also like these are things that inspired me as
well too. How do I make a sound that's my
own but can live in these spaces? Yeah, and so
I just started to like work on that, and I
made like a musical mood board is what I call it,
(07:39):
Like a playlist but just of.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Things that inspired you, Yeah, things that inspire me.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And I should probably like post it one day, yeah
after the project.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Comes outup y yeah, but just because of the process.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, the process.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And so like every producer and songwriter that came into
the sessions, I kind of sent this playlist to them
and like this is the world that I would like
to live in, and there was like it was confusing
above like if you actually listen to it. But there's
things from like sonically to the lyrics the melody like
that I that were inspiring me.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
But I just put it all in like one thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And then I also had a visual mood board that
I would just like have in the studio for everyone
to come like look at and like I would have
like lights and like lasers and this and that, like
just going on. I would be playing like what is
the cruel World? Like on like a projector in the
studio and.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So like a multimedia sort of here's the vibe that
I'm trying to capture.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, just be playing like movies, animations, just on this,
like on mute and just getting people into the vibe.
And I because I never used to have fun in
the studio, Like I used to dread like the idea
of my friends coming to visit me in the studio
because I'm like, guys.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's really not fun.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Why just the section?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, And like if I'm sitting there writing a cassad
heartbroken song, I'm just like, guys, like it's so boring,
Like you're not like you're not gonna have fun, right,
But then working on this project, friends were coming to
the studio.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
We're like having fun, We're having shots. I'm saying. It
was like so it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The environment was really great.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It was so amazing creative for you.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, that is awesome. Is there? So you go to
let's say you go to Abisa. I've been to Abisa,
but I've never been. I don't. I haven't.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Haven't you did the calm side of it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I did the calm side.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I actually haven't been to a day party in a visa. Okay,
the earliest that I've been out in a visa is
like eleven. I started my night at eleven, and that
was like early. I'm like, oh my god, why is
this DJ going on so early?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's like it's like eating in Spain. It's like, wait
a minute, did it starts at ten thirty? But it
actually works for us coming from the States because we're
jet like anyway, exactly, I'm up, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's perfect.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, that's but last summer I was there for like
a month, so then I kind of got over the
jet lag and I was like.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm exhausted, but I'm here. I've committed to the month
and a visa. I've committed to the life.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So what the heck.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But I got to do a little bit of like
the wellness as well out there too, Like I went
to the gym once to.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Start very good. All you need? Yeah, are you because
you in your videos you dance? Are you a dancer?
You trained as a dancer? Do you.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I like to just move. I'm not trained. I mean,
like I went to like my mom, you know, like
when you're young and you're.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Like like forces you to do no, no, she I
actually got kicked out out of ballet because I was late.
And I'm like, but I'm a child. How do I
get count Like? It wasn't my fault that I'm late,
like my mom has to her. Yeah, I wasn't good
at the like movement things like sports and all that. Yeah,
I like, I mean I move, I like to dance,
and yeah, I mean I think I dance better when
(10:26):
I'm drunk, but all.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Dance like that's what I really get it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
At least I think that I dance better when I'm drunk.
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
No, If you if it's the confidence, it doesn't matter
if you're actually like doing like it's the confidence that
you have.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you feel good, and I think you're probably more flexible.
Certainly if you.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Fall down, I'm definitely more flexible.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Okay, there you go, like you don't feel it
when you fall down, Like it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Like I'm fine, get right back up again, and in.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
The morning you put your therot boots on exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I love those. I just use those.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Someone once told me I had the knees of like
an eighty year old woman.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
What yeah, rude?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I would imagine the clubs there are, it's like
the very top. Right. Let's say, so you're there and
the music is playing and you're and you're like, are
you do you retain like melody or no? Like no,
certainly not what's happening actually, but the music, the sound,
You're like, I like that, that's this. I like that,
(11:23):
you know whatever? It's shifting. Do you then go and
find I'm so curious about the Do you then go
and say, okay, who produce this?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I do?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And even like last summer, because I this is I've
only gone twice. I feel like I've been going my
whole life, but I've only gone towice.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It feels like that.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm sure the first year that I went, I was like, gosh,
like I had the time of my life. But I
don't know who the hell was DJing at all?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right, right, we're not paying attention, Like I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Paying attention, So like this summer or last summer, tried
to be more aware of who's DJing. I thought I
was writing it in my notes and then like I
was having a conversation literally this with friends the other day.
I was like, no, guys, like I have it in
my no, I swear I thought I was writing down restaurants, DJs,
all these things, and.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Like, no, it's fully gone.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But there are some songs that have stuck in my head.
I still I don't know what it is, but like,
there are some melodies and things that are stuck in
my head. So when I do get in the studio,
I'm like, oh, like I remember I once heard this song. Yeah,
it took me a week to find a song that
I heard in the club, and then I kept hearing
in other parties.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I'm like, wait, this is like a popular song.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
To figure it out. Our wonderful yap is really fun.
They're all they want to They make you move, so,
which is a really good sciences.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want people to be moving. I want to hear
my songs in the clubs and like Charlie XX said,
I want to dance to me.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, Charlie's great. Who inspires you you have?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I feel like I feel like there's not like a
singular person that inspires me, or like even a person
in general. I feel like I'm inspired by different stages
of people's lives and this project specifically, and this, I
guess this era of my life. I was really I
was watching a lot of like Donna Summer's videos and
like Diana Ross and just their elegance on stage, but
(13:09):
also like how free they were and just also seeing
them alone on stage was like really inspiring to me.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And they're just divas.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Like I just want to be a da not like
a bitch, but like a you know, I mean kind
of kind of be a little.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Bitchy, like there's a bitch in the visa, which is also.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But it's just it's just the level of confidence and
just the way that they're on stage and like nothing
else matters, but like the the way that the beat
is carrying them and just like them it's just so
fun and freeing to watch on stage, and I'm like,
this is how I want to feel. I want to
create music that makes me move and feel like this
and like I can dance too, and like feel so
(13:50):
free on stage. But there's also so many like newer
artists that are inspiring me lately, like a Raven Linet
and like a Charlie XCX Victoria Monet, and just so many,
so many that are doing so amazing and people that
I've watched like grow in their careers as well too
along the years and when people told them to give up,
like Siza or like a Jeneia Eko. Like there's so
(14:12):
many amazing artists who I've like watched grow as well,
and like when they finally like are having their moments,
I'm just like, yeah, in my like career where like
I'm walking into like people know who I am, but
I don't think that they like knew or even like
and I don't feel like we're saying this or even
like liked the music that I was doing before, but
then but my name was like bigger than the music.
(14:34):
But this is like the first time in my life
where I'm walking into rooms and people who I respect
and like admire are telling like coming up to me,
being like, yo, like what you're doing right now is
so cool with this music and this sound Like it's
such a it's such a great feeling.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's all I've ever wanted, you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Know, for like the people that I respect to respect
me as an artist as well too.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And so it's recognition. It's recognition as an artist, and
I think that is even.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Though we should all look for that. I know that
people are like, you shouldn't just.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But you're also inside. I mean I can feel you're inside.
You started in one direction, did the R and B,
which I enjoyed, but I love by the way, I mean,
what you did. But I'm like, you have to speak you,
you know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And people that I feel like know me, even like
the fans that know me well, they're like, this is
the most authentic version of you that you've given us.
And that feels really great to know that people are
seeing that and appreciating.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, especially people who know you. That's earned, you know,
but I feel like you you're earning it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Everything happens when it's supposed to happen, Scott.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I wish we could remember that, right.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And I tell them. I try to tell myself it's.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Very often it's good to remind yourself to get.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So caught up with like what everybody especially that's why
social media is so horrible, because it's like, we're not
supposed to know what Lucy is doing in Australia. We're
not We're not supposed to see that she's walking her
dog and her dog just like took a ship and
a thing, like, we're just not supposed to know that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
We know way too much.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And that's why, like if you think about it, like
back in the days, like was anxiety and depression like
a thing, it probably wasn't that deep of a thing.
It's like because of the way that we interact with
social media and technology and we don't even retain information
that much like it were was onto the next thing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It's like, of course we're going to get anxiety.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And depression like we're we don't We're not supposed to
know this much.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, better to know little. I agree, it does.
It does what And you have been in you've sort
of been in the social I mean like you approach
social like with a sense of fun and joy and
this is what it should, this is what's going on,
and it's exciting, and here's what I'm doing. Isn't it great?
And then people respond in a way that they respond
not everyone, but you know enough to sort of you know,
(16:40):
we're all tender, right, yeah, of course, so these things
can get under our skin.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So we're passionate about especially like as artists, whether it's
being an actress or being a musician. It's like we're
sensitive about like you're supposed to be. You're supposed to
be pasionate about what you're doing, because then why are
you doing it?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly did you have fun doing Grownish? Was
that something that you I did?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I did the first season right, and then the second
season I was like, oh no, But also there was
so much happening, like the strike happened and this happened,
like whatever. And also I was like ready to get
back into like working on like the music because we
had that long break. Yeah, I was like I started
to like tiptoe back into like working on the music again,
(17:23):
and then like we came back.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So I was like, yeah, oh no, but it was
hard because as you said, the days are long. You
don't get tired when you get home.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And it's just like I've done like a few things.
But that is what I can say. I'm the most
proud of that I've participated in as an actress.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And people that always ask.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Me, like what do you prefer, and like they're so
completely It's like asking me what I prefer New York
or LA. I mean, I prefer New York obviously, but
they're just completely different. They're completely different. And but I
feel like with acting, I get to escape like who
I am and like really just dive into like a character.
I think when I started to get annoyed a bit
(17:58):
with Grownish was when the character started to like blend
too much with.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Like who I am?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Ah, And I was just like, was that writers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Like I was like, because we were playing like wordle
in like holding, there was like this game that we
would always it would just be our thing, like we'd
be bored and holding just like, oh, like did.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You play the new wordle? Did you figure it out?
And then like next week it's in the script and I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Like, oh, yeah, they were like guys.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But it's also like it's a sitcom about like being
in college, and there's like a bunch of like kids
just here like talking, and so it is literally like
a show about whatever we're going through in our actual lives.
Like I remember I was going through a breakup and
I had to shoot a breakup scene and I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Like, yeah, no, it's close to home.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, it was like but it was such a fun experience.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I also like, I'm so blessed to have like
castmates that I am still friends with till this day.
And I think that because I know that like some
of my other friends who are actors as well, they're
just like, that's rare that you actually like the people
that you're working with. And I'm like, no, I love them, like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Like we have sleepovers.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
One of my castmates were like, we like live together
during like filming the show, and like she lives in
like everyone had kind of like moved to New York
after the show because we just had separation anxiety.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, that's really nice. That's a type cast that happened.
It doesn't happen a lot, but younger, I think it's
a little easier and to have friends around you, particularly
if you you know, if you're going to continue with that.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, I would imagine in the music business maybe more difficult.
I don't know. I but you have your crew, Yeah
I have.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I've mean, like my friends that I have right now,
like I've had for like ten plus years. I grew
up most of my life an only child. I do
have like a sister on my dad's side, Okay, but
we didn't necessarily grow up together so much. She's in
college now, SAA. She is the captain of her volleyball,
volleyball team.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Wait volleyball. Oh right, yeah, she's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
No, it's it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's so I can say, like, my little sister is
the captain of her position she plays.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do you think I don't know all that? I don't
know detail?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And it's actually so amazing because like my dad would
always wanted me to get into sports. They threw me
into a basketball game when I was in like middle school,
and I threw the ball to the other team. Like
I was not They put me in tennis, like I
got hit with the ball. I was like, no, I'm done,
Like yeah, I was just not the sports girl. So
the fact that my dad got to have that the
daughter that does play sports, I'm like, and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Now she wants to be a lawyer. So now it's like, ah,
yeah that's her bath.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm trying to find a hobby right now.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, honestly speaking, Like my favorite hobby is binge watching
TV shows. Like that is my absolute, like favorite hobby.
Like I don't care if people say that I'm lazy
or whatever. I like to be horizontal binge watching a
TV show. Yeah, that's where I find my joy. If
I haven't done that in a while. I feel like
I start to like enter depression, and everyone's like, what's
(20:49):
wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I'm like, I have it, you know me.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I haven't been horizontal yea for at least forty eight hours,
for so long watching a full season.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, I have a couple things you can watch please.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Like watching Love Story. Well I just finished it. But
it's when you think about it, I'm like, oh my god,
I just spent eight hours, Like I just watched eight episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I prefer a series then a movie.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I'm not gonna lie, Okay, we like the characters, like I.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Like to really get invested in it like a movie.
Movies are too short for me, Like I need to
get into the world, like I recently, Like well last
year I started, like rewatched the whole series of Scandal,
seven seasons. Do you know that's a lot of work.
That is a talent to sit there and watch seven seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, they should know about you.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think this is important, Like, tell me lies, it's crazy.
That show is crazy that one. Like while I was
getting ready to come here, I was like watching like
a podcast with the guy, like one of the main
characters from the show talking and I was like, oh,
I hate him, and I'm like I'm like, I hate
him so much, and like my glam team is like
what did he do to you? And like nothing, he
(21:53):
was just horrible on this show. I'm just invested into
the character.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Dive one thing and then you go in deep the
next thing.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, that's funny. It reminds me of it does right,
it's a deep dive on stuff my wife. Here we go.
You mentioned so you have a birthday shot your August,
so virgo, what's your signs. I think we're on the opposite.
I know, I don't know. I like sparkly, shiny things.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, PCEs are like actually really funny, Like prices are
really funny.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I think we have like similar humor. It's like because
I am very I have like very dry.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Dark hair, very interesting. I think you're right, like.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We're just very sarcastic, and we're just like perfect and
monotone too.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
We're very like yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Okay, like yeah I can see your delivery. Yeah you're
very like yeah, but you have but it's but it's
there's a sense of fun and tease underneath it. Yes,
I think teasing done kind of the right way is
a really way to a great way to have a friendship,
like you have. You have to be able to you
have to be able to say the truth, but maybe
you don't have to tell it like in a hard.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I mean, like that's my relationship with all my friends.
Like I think it's gonna be so hard for me
to find like a husband because like you would have
to be really fucking funny. Like, trust me, I've been
on dates and I'm like, it doesn't matter how nice
you are, Like you're.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Just not funny enough.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And there's something to that, right.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Because my friends are so funny.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's like I can't just be like, well, I'm supposed
to like start a life with you and you're.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Not making me laugh. Yeah, yeah, that's that's impossible.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Then I'm just gonna not want to spend time with you.
I'm gonna be with my friends.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
All the time. Well, they'll have to vet him, you know,
so you'll bring him along he can stand up to this.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I've thought about that lately because I'm like, oh, like
it's fine if my friends don't know like who I'm dating,
it's fine. Like if he's like a random person, and
I'm like, no, they my friends do need to actually
like because like then I'm just wasting my time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Then I'm just wasting my time because I'm like, I
know I don't like this person, but like now I'm
forcing myself to like this person. And then like my
friends come and they're like, just see, you don't like
this person.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, and I'm like, but I maybe it's fine because
he's nice, right, And they're like, you don't like him.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just invested all this I've wasted all.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
The time, and I'm like, guys, come on, like we
could have been having dinner, but now I'm at dinner.
It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Person's first date you first that you bring the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That's what I'm saying, Like and everyone I thought that
that was like kind of like immature, but it's like
it will save a lot of time. Yes, but sometimes
my friends are not right. I'm not gonna lie. They
advocated for like guys where I'm just like, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh oh, he's not the one.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
When they advocate, yeah, they're like, no, trust me, just
seeing like you should try this, you should but whatever.
I'm like, But also then they haven't met him. They're
just going based off of what I've been saying.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, this is the thing that surprises me today about
some of the online dating. You meet someone online, maybe
maybe you I don't want any meaning, yeah, because it's like, really,
you know that only takes you so far.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
But you're not a reality TV girl? Oh no, No,
I really don't like reality TV.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Sometimes I got into it, like I got into Love
Island last season, but that's because it's like smoking cigarettes.
Like all my friends were like watching it and I'm
just like fresh.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Fuck.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, I don't like I'm in a Love Island group
chat now with all my friends.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like you got to contribute, Like, no, I need a script? Yeah,
I agree. I would like to have seen you. And
did you ever watch Portlandia? I don't know if you
have port Landia. I would like to see you in Portlandy.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
What is that one about?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This was fred fred Armis.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's all improv I need to I've been having a
burning desire to take improv.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay, if you know any a primer. Oh my god,
there's so many options. Yeah. Yeah, this fun post about
sealing your excess dog. But it was so cryptic because
just like it's just a little boat floating and then
this that and nothing else.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, it's just like just thinking about that time that
one time.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, yes, is there a story you don't have to
share if you like whatever, But.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But yeah, he just had this dog and I'm like
he was like a rapper and I'm like, why do
you have this fluffy little like Maltese or whatever it was,
I don't even know what it was, Bilina, And I'm like,
why do you have this dog? Like this is not
like a rapper dog. This is kind of crazy. And
I fell in love with the dog, and I was
just like, I'm taking the dog for a sleepover.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
He also like kicked.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
The dog because he was like and I was like, oh, absolutely,
like you do not deserve this dog. And so I
took the dog and I held her for a while,
and then I introduced the dog to my mom because
my mom was like she already had like two dogs,
like one of them was mine, but like, I'm I
travel so much, so they live with my mom. Then
(26:29):
she got this random Chihuahua for some reason, and I'm
just like whatever, like she was evil. She bites everyone
else except for me. And then so I'm like, well.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Here's Billina, and she fell in love with Billina and
now she gives her like weird haircuts. He never asked
for the dog back.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Excellent. He did a good deed.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, I did it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
That's one of the things I'm really like happy and
proud of yet I've done and now she has like
a great home. Except the haircuts that my mom. She
looks in these haircuts.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, is there any dye hair dye that's involved in
us or just did.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
You do a little purple air situation?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, so she I think my mom was like inspired,
yeat inspired, And I was just like, mom, she looks
like crazy, and like that's why I don't post the
dogs ever, because my mom does the.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Own grooming on them.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I'm like, I can't claim these dogs if they're
looking like you have to because they look like they
went through the blender. And I tell her all the time,
I'm like, Mom, you need to stop.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
This madness right now.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's not nice.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You're bringing them out into the world and they're getting judged.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yes, it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
She doesn't want to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Does she have a sparkly collar? She doesn't put them
on a sparking coror.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
No, she's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
She's like she has a full grooming station in her way,
and I'm just like, why are you it's like her
hobby that she's not good at hobby. No, I know,
well it's my mom's hobby.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I'm not getting into the grooming.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, no, no, we're going to cut that. Okay, cool, Well,
let's let's go and play our fun game. So we're
going to come back and we're going to see what
this is all about. Don't go away. We are back
with a segment that we have created just for Justine
called dance Therapy. So this is going to be a
(28:18):
healing thing, dance therapy with Justine. I'm wearing a kind
of a crazy lat with mirror things on it and
a cheese board. He's ready for the rain and I'm
ready for the rain and glasses, and Justin has a
program thing in front of her. She can make all
sorts of different sounds. You in the past have said
how much you like dance music, and so do I.
So I'm going to give you some insane scenarios that
(28:40):
I could or could not find myself in, and you
pretending to be my DJ, will have fifteen seconds to
identify what song you would play based upon this scenario. Okay,
while you are thinking, I will dance as I would
in this unfortunate scenario, you're going to be crazy. The
(29:01):
first one is I am at a club in Abisa.
Is it Abisa or Bitha? What do you say?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Tomato, tomato, tomato. I love that it's an answer without
an answer, It's an answer within an answer. Food poisoning
is starting to settle in. I know. So I've had
some bad klamari.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You're in Abiza, and the food poisoning is starting.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
To settle in, and so I'm dancing to this kind.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of okay, so I think that this is like this
is the letout right, Like it's the end of the
party and they're letting people out, and so it's like
this is a slow song, but it's still like it's
this one's more like trippy than and so it's eventually
by Tam and Paula, and you're just like, this is not.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
How it goes.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But the vibe is right, it's more like euphoric, you know,
because if you're feeling it like you're just like keep. Yeah,
it's like that the letout is like the end, okay.
The letout is the end of the party. So it's
like everyone's like confused, they don't know what they're doing.
(30:13):
They're like, are we going out more? We're going to
the after the morning. It could be like the letout
at inn abizat Circle Locos at like six.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Am, six am okay, So it's like coming up.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The sun could be coming up still like it's about
to like it's about to start maybe okay, and you know,
everyone's just like whose house are we going to?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like like what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Because like we don't want to go to sleep yet.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Everyone's still buzzing with for yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Everyone like yeah, everyone's still buzzing.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And so it's like that is the letoutka and I've
stayed there until the letout, And there's sometimes you don't
want to be somewhere for the letout, like it's like damn,
like you're that desperate you're at the party to the
letout like that's but if you're at a rave, like it's.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's fine, yeah no one remember, yeah exactly. Okay, So
this next one ready, So someone is cutting me off
on the four or five, you know the four or
five right in la. Oh yes, and I am furious, Okay, okay,
I'm gonna sit for this one.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, So for this I would choose Next Level Charlie
by Charlie XCX.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And it's like, no, I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's is good.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Oh, it's more like it's more like.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Technoy like yeah, and it's fun and it's just like
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And she's like, I guess we didn't know the highway.
She's speeding on the highway.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Okay, I'm got okay, Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, and you're like, fuck yo.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I literally I shot the when I shot the cover
for Candy, I my face was obviously like pink and
orange like glossy, and I was just like, you know what,
I'm gonna drive home like this and see like how
many people. All my friends said that I mean my
windows to be tinted like darker, and I'm like, guys, like, no,
people need to see me, like I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
People like like what if I meet the love of
my life at like the stoplight.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
One exact look over and I don't actually look.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
At people like when i'm driving unless for the first
time the other day, I think it was yesterday, I
took my road rage to another level.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh no, what happened, so you get road rage?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It was like the taxi driver and he like they
don't give up buck like they will literally just like
ruin their cars to get ahead. And I'm just like, dude,
and I have a nice car, so I'm like, go ahead. Yeah,
I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna into.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
The fight with you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
But he cut me off so crazy, and it's like
the New Yorker in me where I'm just like, we
just do that. We honk we yeah, yeah, just how
that's just like the culture of it. When I was
in LA for like three weeks and I was driving
out there and I like honked once and my friends
are like, Justine, you can't do that here, Like why
are you so aggressive? And I'm like, because get out
(32:56):
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, places to go.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But yeah, I pulled up on the guy, like I
pulled up next to him for the first time ever,
like put my window down, and I was like, what
the fuck is your problem?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
And he was just like.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, And I'm like, you know what, Like road rage
is kind of just like I was talking to my
uncle about this, and he's like, when I was younger,
like I used to get out the car and like
yell at people to but it's like, what are you
about to do fight the person? Like no, because then
you're going to jail. So it's like you kind of
just have to keep driving.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, it's like it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Sucks, but it's like because you want to like.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
There's no resolution.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
There's no resolution. It sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Like I wish I had like a back horn, so
the people that like honk at me, like I wish
I could.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Just like like I.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Wasugh, it's like horrible, Okay, next thing, two am on
the dance floor. I'm on the dance floor. I see
my grandmother dancing across the room.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Two am on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Or two am my grandmother's dancing across the room.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I would say la la oh by Justine Scott.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, I like that choice ver much.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Because it's like if grandma's at the party, she wants
to get she wants to get down, she wants to
get down.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So it's like I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Feel like, you know what, I haven't asked my grandma.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
She likes that song. Oh, how I will?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Does she weigh in on your on your music?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
No, I think it's like a bit inappropriate for her,
but like it's a bit like you know, like this
is like I think, like the raunchiest music that i've
right put out. She was young ones to right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
There you go, the one that I want to try.
I'm dancing at a friend's birthday party when the cake
comes out and I see the flavor is a colorflower
head cheese blend.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I'm looking at the recommendations here and my eye instantly went.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
To salt and Peppa.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Push it, yeah, okay, push that ship away, Okay, And
you're just like push it, like push get that away
from me?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well yes, no you don't want it?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah exactly, Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
And push it. Wait. I love what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Oh. I was gonna say, you're a good sport, but
I'm a good sport.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I just sat here and drank my coffee and.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I got a little exercise. This is so much fun.
Thank you so much for coming on playing around.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Tell me the EP I think first and foremost that's
the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yes, Candy, you can definitely go check out Candy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I've listened to the songs. They're all great.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yes, and yeah, there will be tour, there will be festivals,
me so many exciting things.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That's so wonderful. And this summer you have your eyes
on Europe and.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Absolutely I've kind of like made a promise to myself
that I'll go to Abiza every summer for as long
as I can. Yeah, at least for a couple of days,
like the minimum, a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's fun and I think you find inspiration there. I
think within that world or something about that that is
magnetic for you. So that's wonderful. Well, thank you very much.
Just this is great. Well, folks, that's all we have
time for today. On our show What Are We Even Doing?
I think we really figured out what We're even doing. Well,
we talked, we talked around it, we got closer, and
it's been really a pleasure to have you on. Thank you,
(36:07):
Thanks Justine, Okay, tank care everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture productionists Yay,
featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For
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(36:31):
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Speaker 1 (36:46):
Exclamation point
What do we even do?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What are we even doing?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm Kyle McLaughlin. I'm your host, and this is the
show where we we talked with artists, musicians, actors, creative
people of all types, and we we talked about creative process,
what they love, what inspires them, how they use social
and today we have a very exciting guest actress, musician
and you could say musician actress. I like this one.
(00:32):
You were retired Tumblr sensation Justine Sky is here, So
a retired Tumblr sensation. That that's pretty awesome. I mean
I missed Tumblr, so so yeah, somehow I went past it,
but I understand it was at the beginning, it was
a pretty nice platform to be able to present. It
(00:54):
was the best who you were right to an audience.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
It was the most freeing, Like I feel like that's where, well,
that is where a lot of people first met me.
And it's so interesting because I feel like I was
obviously it was young, and I was figuring out who
I was, but it was the perfect platform to do so.
And also at the time, like people were just like
judging you as they do now, Like it wasn't so
(01:18):
rapid as it is now, Like you literally post something
and like sixty seconds later you're like trending and everyone
hates you.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, but like what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's so much fun? No, that's terrible. So you started
you're roughly seventeen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, I was like sixteen seventeen Okay, Yeah, I was
in high school and a friend of mine school, her
name is Ja Day, and she was more like emo girl,
like on like side of Tumblr, and so she had
that and she was telling me about it and she's like,
there's this new thing, like I have three thousand followers,
like it's so cool.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
And I'm like, I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I just made it a competition and I was like,
I bet I can get more followers.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Never heard of this thing before ever in my life.
Never didn't even know what it was. But I just
got so interested in it, and I was like hmm,
and I don't know. I just I got on there.
I started like taking pictures being myself. It was like
your own website.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, pretty much, and.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You can just like I start. That's why I got
really like into coding as well.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Well.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
I guess my space d as.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
I got into like coding a little bit right because
I would like to hide everything.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
On my MySpace and just make it like very minimal.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Right, But so so you adapted it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, just you make it your own and it's literally
just it's your website. And so it just felt so
cool to be like sixteen seventeen, having my own website
and even answer questions. It'd really just get to do
whatever you want. And you can write, you can write something,
you can answer anonymous questions, you can post videos.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
It was just everything that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's amazing. I mean I grew up at a time
when that was you did. Nothing like that existed, of course,
but you didn't have a way to present who you
were to an audience unless you were going through a
pr agent something like that, or you did a television
show or a film or music. You know, but there
was no real the visual didn't have that kind of control.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, exactly. So it's like a it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And then I feel like it kind of just got
out of hand.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well yeah, I think they had to they put some
limitations on. Yeah, tumblers, I remember, Yeah, do you find inspiration?
I mean, as you journal, things come up and ideas
maybe for songs.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Well I just started like two days ago.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Okay, well, we're excited. I just started to excited to come.
We're excited for what's to come because you got the
EP is. Yes, Candy, it's really amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
No, it's It's been such an amazing process making this
project and very like freeing. I feel like I've kind
of lost myself as an artist along the way. I
got signed when I was seventeen. I'm thirty.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I mean that's a journey. You've been in the business
for a while. Yeah, I was going to have cycles, right.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Of course, and as there are people that are like
you should just give up, or people like there have
been people that have like reached this point and or
kind of like quit before they've even been reached this point.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Is I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I feel like I'm just again, like with this new
music and this new sound, and I'm having the most
fun that I've ever had. I feel like there was
a point where it became like a job that I
wasn't really getting paid from, but I felt like I
had to do it. And I don't feel like I
have to do it. I want to do it, you know,
(04:19):
And I feel the love for making music again, and
I'm so excited and I can't wait to perform.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
And that's all good things creativity. It should be fun,
it should be exciting, it should make you you know.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So, like an artist who I love comes up to
me and he's like talking about his album and how
he's like going to take some time and he's working
on it, and he was like, oh, well, you know,
you just started putting out music, you get it.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
And I'm like, no, I just started putting out music.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I was like wait what, But I was like,
you know what, I actually kind of like like that
because there's a whole new audience that's paying attention or
like discovering me for the first time. And it's like
it's a beautiful thing because this is who I really am,
you know, like now I've grown into myself, Like I
really understand what I want to do, like what I
want to sound, like how I want to present myself
to the world. And so this is how people are
(05:05):
meeting me for the first time. Yeah sure, this is
the first Yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I love it. There's there's growth, you know, as an artist,
and as you said, you start at seventeen and you
are certainly a very different person at seventeen than you
are thirty.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I was on Tumblr.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I mean, you know, I mean it's one of those things.
But you found a way you knew you wanted to create,
You knew you want this is what you wanted to do,
as well as the acting, which I want to talk
to about that, but the music primarily, and talk to
me about finding the sound because I'm I'm musical and
I play instruments and stuff and I but this process
as a musician of finding the sound that you want,
(05:39):
it's almost like you know something is you're going for
something that you already kind of know, but it's just
sort of trying to fine tune it. What is that?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Well, Like I was filming a show for two seasons
and I wanted to like work on the music as well,
but I knowing me, I have to focus on one
thing at a time. So it's like if I I
can't give my all and like actually create the way
that I would like to while I'm on set for
fourteen hours and then like I only.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Have the weekends.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So it's like I was like, all right, let me
just like focus on this until it's over and then
I can figure out the music again. I took a break,
and I was independent at the time as well, and
I kind of just like I don't know, one would
say I was like crashing out and like, but I
was in this where I was so confused about who
I was as an artist and like who I was
as a person. I was like partying a lot and
(06:30):
like sneaking into parties and doing this like whatever, Like
I mean, like iconic parties I snuck.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Into, of course, but there was no question.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
But it's like I'm in these environments around all of
these people that I admired and I respect, and I'm like,
I want them to be dancing to my music, Like
why am I making sad R and B songs about
how these guys who do not matter anymore in my
life broke my heart that I have to sing forever?
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Don't do that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And so I'm like I'm like parting with my friends,
I'm dancing, I'm traveling, doing like what I want to do,
and really just finding out who I felt like I
didn't know who I was. And i go to Ibiza
and I'm hearing like different things. I'm going to a
bunch of raves and I'm like, I want my music
to be playing in these environments. Yeah, and so I
(07:18):
just started to lock in and figure out, like how
do I make that make sense with me? Because obviously,
like like I'm a black girl from Brooklyn, New York,
but also like these are things that inspired me as
well too. How do I make a sound that's my
own but can live in these spaces? Yeah, and so
I just started to like work on that, and I
made like a musical mood board is what I call it,
(07:39):
Like a playlist but just of.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Things that inspired you, Yeah, things that inspire me.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And I should probably like post it one day, yeah
after the project.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Comes outup y yeah, but just because of the process.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, the process.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And so like every producer and songwriter that came into
the sessions, I kind of sent this playlist to them
and like this is the world that I would like
to live in, and there was like it was confusing
above like if you actually listen to it. But there's
things from like sonically to the lyrics the melody like
that I that were inspiring me.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
But I just put it all in like one thing.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And then I also had a visual mood board that
I would just like have in the studio for everyone
to come like look at and like I would have
like lights and like lasers and this and that, like
just going on. I would be playing like what is
the cruel World? Like on like a projector in the
studio and.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So like a multimedia sort of here's the vibe that
I'm trying to capture.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, just be playing like movies, animations, just on this,
like on mute and just getting people into the vibe.
And I because I never used to have fun in
the studio, Like I used to dread like the idea
of my friends coming to visit me in the studio
because I'm like, guys.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's really not fun.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Why just the section?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, And like if I'm sitting there writing a cassad
heartbroken song, I'm just like, guys, like it's so boring,
Like you're not like you're not gonna have fun, right,
But then working on this project, friends were coming to
the studio.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
We're like having fun, We're having shots. I'm saying. It
was like so it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
The environment was really great.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
It was so amazing creative for you.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yes, that is awesome. Is there? So you go to
let's say you go to Abisa. I've been to Abisa,
but I've never been. I don't. I haven't.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Haven't you did the calm side of it.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I did the calm side.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
I actually haven't been to a day party in a visa. Okay,
the earliest that I've been out in a visa is
like eleven. I started my night at eleven, and that
was like early. I'm like, oh my god, why is
this DJ going on so early?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It's like it's like eating in Spain. It's like, wait
a minute, did it starts at ten thirty? But it
actually works for us coming from the States because we're
jet like anyway, exactly, I'm up, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
It's perfect.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, that's but last summer I was there for like
a month, so then I kind of got over the
jet lag and I was like.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I'm exhausted, but I'm here. I've committed to the month
and a visa. I've committed to the life.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
So what the heck.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
But I got to do a little bit of like
the wellness as well out there too, Like I went
to the gym once to.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Start very good. All you need? Yeah, are you because
you in your videos you dance? Are you a dancer?
You trained as a dancer? Do you.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
I like to just move. I'm not trained. I mean,
like I went to like my mom, you know, like
when you're young and you're.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Like like forces you to do no, no, she I
actually got kicked out out of ballet because I was late.
And I'm like, but I'm a child. How do I
get count Like? It wasn't my fault that I'm late,
like my mom has to her. Yeah, I wasn't good
at the like movement things like sports and all that. Yeah,
I like, I mean I move, I like to dance,
and yeah, I mean I think I dance better when
(10:26):
I'm drunk, but all.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Dance like that's what I really get it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
At least I think that I dance better when I'm drunk.
Probably not.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
No, If you if it's the confidence, it doesn't matter
if you're actually like doing like it's the confidence that
you have.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, you feel good, and I think you're probably more flexible.
Certainly if you.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Fall down, I'm definitely more flexible.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, Okay, there you go, like you don't feel it
when you fall down, Like it's just.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Like I'm fine, get right back up again, and in.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
The morning you put your therot boots on exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I love those. I just use those.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Someone once told me I had the knees of like
an eighty year old woman.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
What yeah, rude?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And I would imagine the clubs there are, it's like
the very top. Right. Let's say, so you're there and
the music is playing and you're and you're like, are
you do you retain like melody or no? Like no,
certainly not what's happening actually, but the music, the sound,
You're like, I like that, that's this. I like that,
(11:23):
you know whatever? It's shifting. Do you then go and
find I'm so curious about the Do you then go
and say, okay, who produce this?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I do?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
And even like last summer, because I this is I've
only gone twice. I feel like I've been going my
whole life, but I've only gone towice.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It feels like that.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm sure the first year that I went, I was like, gosh,
like I had the time of my life. But I
don't know who the hell was DJing at all?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Right, right, we're not paying attention, Like I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Paying attention, So like this summer or last summer, tried
to be more aware of who's DJing. I thought I
was writing it in my notes and then like I
was having a conversation literally this with friends the other day.
I was like, no, guys, like I have it in
my no, I swear I thought I was writing down restaurants, DJs,
all these things, and.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Like, no, it's fully gone.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But there are some songs that have stuck in my head.
I still I don't know what it is, but like,
there are some melodies and things that are stuck in
my head. So when I do get in the studio,
I'm like, oh, like I remember I once heard this song. Yeah,
it took me a week to find a song that
I heard in the club, and then I kept hearing
in other parties.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
I'm like, wait, this is like a popular song.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
To figure it out. Our wonderful yap is really fun.
They're all they want to They make you move, so,
which is a really good sciences.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I want people to be moving. I want to hear
my songs in the clubs and like Charlie XX said,
I want to dance to me.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, Charlie's great. Who inspires you you have?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I feel like I feel like there's not like a
singular person that inspires me, or like even a person
in general. I feel like I'm inspired by different stages
of people's lives and this project specifically, and this, I
guess this era of my life. I was really I
was watching a lot of like Donna Summer's videos and
like Diana Ross and just their elegance on stage, but
(13:09):
also like how free they were and just also seeing
them alone on stage was like really inspiring to me.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
And they're just divas.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Like I just want to be a da not like
a bitch, but like a you know, I mean kind
of kind of be a little.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Bitchy, like there's a bitch in the visa, which is also.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
But it's just it's just the level of confidence and
just the way that they're on stage and like nothing
else matters, but like the the way that the beat
is carrying them and just like them it's just so
fun and freeing to watch on stage, and I'm like,
this is how I want to feel. I want to
create music that makes me move and feel like this
and like I can dance too, and like feel so
(13:50):
free on stage. But there's also so many like newer
artists that are inspiring me lately, like a Raven Linet
and like a Charlie XCX Victoria Monet, and just so many,
so many that are doing so amazing and people that
I've watched like grow in their careers as well too
along the years and when people told them to give up,
like Siza or like a Jeneia Eko. Like there's so
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many amazing artists who I've like watched grow as well,
and like when they finally like are having their moments,
I'm just like, yeah, in my like career where like
I'm walking into like people know who I am, but
I don't think that they like knew or even like
and I don't feel like we're saying this or even
like liked the music that I was doing before, but
then but my name was like bigger than the music.
(14:34):
But this is like the first time in my life
where I'm walking into rooms and people who I respect
and like admire are telling like coming up to me,
being like, yo, like what you're doing right now is
so cool with this music and this sound Like it's
such a it's such a great feeling.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
It's all I've ever wanted, you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Know, for like the people that I respect to respect
me as an artist as well too.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And so it's recognition. It's recognition as an artist, and
I think that is even.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Though we should all look for that. I know that
people are like, you shouldn't just.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
But you're also inside. I mean I can feel you're inside.
You started in one direction, did the R and B,
which I enjoyed, but I love by the way, I mean,
what you did. But I'm like, you have to speak you,
you know.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And people that I feel like know me, even like
the fans that know me well, they're like, this is
the most authentic version of you that you've given us.
And that feels really great to know that people are
seeing that and appreciating.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, especially people who know you. That's earned, you know,
but I feel like you you're earning it.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Everything happens when it's supposed to happen, Scott.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I wish we could remember that, right.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
And I tell them. I try to tell myself it's.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Very often it's good to remind yourself to get.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So caught up with like what everybody especially that's why
social media is so horrible, because it's like, we're not
supposed to know what Lucy is doing in Australia. We're
not We're not supposed to see that she's walking her
dog and her dog just like took a ship and
a thing, like, we're just not supposed to know that.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
We know way too much.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And that's why, like if you think about it, like
back in the days, like was anxiety and depression like
a thing, it probably wasn't that deep of a thing.
It's like because of the way that we interact with
social media and technology and we don't even retain information
that much like it were was onto the next thing.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It's like, of course we're going to get anxiety.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And depression like we're we don't We're not supposed to
know this much.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, yeah, better to know little. I agree, it does.
It does what And you have been in you've sort
of been in the social I mean like you approach
social like with a sense of fun and joy and
this is what it should, this is what's going on,
and it's exciting, and here's what I'm doing. Isn't it great?
And then people respond in a way that they respond
not everyone, but you know enough to sort of you know,
(16:40):
we're all tender, right, yeah, of course, so these things
can get under our skin.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
So we're passionate about especially like as artists, whether it's
being an actress or being a musician. It's like we're
sensitive about like you're supposed to be. You're supposed to
be pasionate about what you're doing, because then why are
you doing it?
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah? Yeah, exactly did you have fun doing Grownish? Was
that something that you I did?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
I did the first season right, and then the second
season I was like, oh no, But also there was
so much happening, like the strike happened and this happened,
like whatever. And also I was like ready to get
back into like working on like the music because we
had that long break. Yeah, I was like I started
to like tiptoe back into like working on the music again,
(17:23):
and then like we came back.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
So I was like, yeah, oh no, but it was
hard because as you said, the days are long. You
don't get tired when you get home.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
And it's just like I've done like a few things.
But that is what I can say. I'm the most
proud of that I've participated in as an actress.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
And people that always ask.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Me, like what do you prefer, and like they're so
completely It's like asking me what I prefer New York
or LA. I mean, I prefer New York obviously, but
they're just completely different. They're completely different. And but I
feel like with acting, I get to escape like who
I am and like really just dive into like a character.
I think when I started to get annoyed a bit
(17:58):
with Grownish was when the character started to like blend
too much with.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Like who I am?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Ah, And I was just like, was that writers? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Like I was like, because we were playing like wordle
in like holding, there was like this game that we
would always it would just be our thing, like we'd
be bored and holding just like, oh, like did.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
You play the new wordle? Did you figure it out?
And then like next week it's in the script and I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Like, oh, yeah, they were like guys.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
But it's also like it's a sitcom about like being
in college, and there's like a bunch of like kids
just here like talking, and so it is literally like
a show about whatever we're going through in our actual lives.
Like I remember I was going through a breakup and
I had to shoot a breakup scene and I'm.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Like, yeah, no, it's close to home.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, it was like but it was such a fun experience.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And I also like, I'm so blessed to have like
castmates that I am still friends with till this day.
And I think that because I know that like some
of my other friends who are actors as well, they're
just like, that's rare that you actually like the people
that you're working with. And I'm like, no, I love them, like.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Like we have sleepovers.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
One of my castmates were like, we like live together
during like filming the show, and like she lives in
like everyone had kind of like moved to New York
after the show because we just had separation anxiety.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, that's really nice. That's a type cast that happened.
It doesn't happen a lot, but younger, I think it's
a little easier and to have friends around you, particularly
if you you know, if you're going to continue with that.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No, I would imagine in the music business maybe more difficult.
I don't know. I but you have your crew, Yeah
I have.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I've mean, like my friends that I have right now,
like I've had for like ten plus years. I grew
up most of my life an only child. I do
have like a sister on my dad's side, Okay, but
we didn't necessarily grow up together so much. She's in
college now, SAA. She is the captain of her volleyball,
volleyball team.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Wait volleyball. Oh right, yeah, she's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
No, it's it's so cool.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's so I can say, like, my little sister is
the captain of her position she plays.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Do you think I don't know all that? I don't
know detail?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And it's actually so amazing because like my dad would
always wanted me to get into sports. They threw me
into a basketball game when I was in like middle school,
and I threw the ball to the other team. Like
I was not They put me in tennis, like I
got hit with the ball. I was like, no, I'm done,
Like yeah, I was just not the sports girl. So
the fact that my dad got to have that the
daughter that does play sports, I'm like, and.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Now she wants to be a lawyer. So now it's like, ah,
yeah that's her bath.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I'm trying to find a hobby right now.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, honestly speaking, Like my favorite hobby is binge watching
TV shows. Like that is my absolute, like favorite hobby.
Like I don't care if people say that I'm lazy
or whatever. I like to be horizontal binge watching a
TV show. Yeah, that's where I find my joy. If
I haven't done that in a while. I feel like
I start to like enter depression, and everyone's like, what's
(20:49):
wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
I'm like, I have it, you know me.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I haven't been horizontal yea for at least forty eight hours,
for so long watching a full season.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yeah, I have a couple things you can watch please.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Like watching Love Story. Well I just finished it. But
it's when you think about it, I'm like, oh my god,
I just spent eight hours, Like I just watched eight episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I prefer a series then a movie.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I'm not gonna lie, Okay, we like the characters, like I.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Like to really get invested in it like a movie.
Movies are too short for me, Like I need to
get into the world, like I recently, Like well last
year I started, like rewatched the whole series of Scandal,
seven seasons. Do you know that's a lot of work.
That is a talent to sit there and watch seven seasons.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, they should know about you.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I think this is important, Like, tell me lies, it's crazy.
That show is crazy that one. Like while I was
getting ready to come here, I was like watching like
a podcast with the guy, like one of the main
characters from the show talking and I was like, oh,
I hate him, and I'm like I'm like, I hate
him so much, and like my glam team is like
what did he do to you? And like nothing, he
(21:53):
was just horrible on this show. I'm just invested into
the character.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Dive one thing and then you go in deep the
next thing.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Get into it.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, that's funny. It reminds me of it does right,
it's a deep dive on stuff my wife. Here we go.
You mentioned so you have a birthday shot your August,
so virgo, what's your signs. I think we're on the opposite.
I know, I don't know. I like sparkly, shiny things.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, PCEs are like actually really funny, Like prices are
really funny.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I think we have like similar humor. It's like because
I am very I have like very dry.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Dark hair, very interesting. I think you're right, like.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
We're just very sarcastic, and we're just like perfect and
monotone too.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
We're very like yeah whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Okay, like yeah I can see your delivery. Yeah you're
very like yeah, but you have but it's but it's
there's a sense of fun and tease underneath it. Yes,
I think teasing done kind of the right way is
a really way to a great way to have a friendship,
like you have. You have to be able to you
have to be able to say the truth, but maybe
you don't have to tell it like in a hard.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I mean, like that's my relationship with all my friends.
Like I think it's gonna be so hard for me
to find like a husband because like you would have
to be really fucking funny. Like, trust me, I've been
on dates and I'm like, it doesn't matter how nice
you are, Like you're.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Just not funny enough.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And there's something to that, right.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Because my friends are so funny.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's like I can't just be like, well, I'm supposed
to like start a life with you and you're.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Not making me laugh. Yeah, yeah, that's that's impossible.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Then I'm just gonna not want to spend time with you.
I'm gonna be with my friends.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
All the time. Well, they'll have to vet him, you know,
so you'll bring him along he can stand up to this.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
I've thought about that lately because I'm like, oh, like
it's fine if my friends don't know like who I'm dating,
it's fine. Like if he's like a random person, and
I'm like, no, they my friends do need to actually
like because like then I'm just wasting my time.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Then I'm just wasting my time because I'm like, I
know I don't like this person, but like now I'm
forcing myself to like this person. And then like my
friends come and they're like, just see, you don't like
this person.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah, and I'm like, but I maybe it's fine because
he's nice, right, And they're like, you don't like him.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I just invested all this I've wasted all.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
The time, and I'm like, guys, come on, like we
could have been having dinner, but now I'm at dinner.
It's not funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Person's first date you first that you bring the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
That's what I'm saying, Like and everyone I thought that
that was like kind of like immature, but it's like
it will save a lot of time. Yes, but sometimes
my friends are not right. I'm not gonna lie. They
advocated for like guys where I'm just like, guys.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Oh oh, he's not the one.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
When they advocate, yeah, they're like, no, trust me, just
seeing like you should try this, you should but whatever.
I'm like, But also then they haven't met him. They're
just going based off of what I've been saying.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, this is the thing that surprises me today about
some of the online dating. You meet someone online, maybe
maybe you I don't want any meaning, yeah, because it's like, really,
you know that only takes you so far.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
But you're not a reality TV girl? Oh no, No,
I really don't like reality TV.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Sometimes I got into it, like I got into Love
Island last season, but that's because it's like smoking cigarettes.
Like all my friends were like watching it and I'm
just like fresh.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Fuck.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, I don't like I'm in a Love Island group
chat now with all my friends.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like you got to contribute, Like, no, I need a script? Yeah,
I agree. I would like to have seen you. And
did you ever watch Portlandia? I don't know if you
have port Landia. I would like to see you in Portlandy.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
What is that one about?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
This was fred fred Armis.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's all improv I need to I've been having a
burning desire to take improv.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Okay, if you know any a primer. Oh my god,
there's so many options. Yeah. Yeah, this fun post about
sealing your excess dog. But it was so cryptic because
just like it's just a little boat floating and then
this that and nothing else.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, it's just like just thinking about that time that
one time.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, yes, is there a story you don't have to
share if you like whatever, But.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But yeah, he just had this dog and I'm like
he was like a rapper and I'm like, why do
you have this fluffy little like Maltese or whatever it was,
I don't even know what it was, Bilina, And I'm like,
why do you have this dog? Like this is not
like a rapper dog. This is kind of crazy. And
I fell in love with the dog, and I was
just like, I'm taking the dog for a sleepover.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
He also like kicked.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
The dog because he was like and I was like, oh, absolutely,
like you do not deserve this dog. And so I
took the dog and I held her for a while,
and then I introduced the dog to my mom because
my mom was like she already had like two dogs,
like one of them was mine, but like, I'm I
travel so much, so they live with my mom. Then
(26:29):
she got this random Chihuahua for some reason, and I'm
just like whatever, like she was evil. She bites everyone
else except for me. And then so I'm like, well.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Here's another one.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Here's Billina, and she fell in love with Billina and
now she gives her like weird haircuts. He never asked
for the dog back.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Excellent. He did a good deed.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, I did it.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
That's one of the things I'm really like happy and
proud of yet I've done and now she has like
a great home. Except the haircuts that my mom. She
looks in these haircuts.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Okay, is there any dye hair dye that's involved in
us or just did.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
You do a little purple air situation?
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, so she I think my mom was like inspired,
yeat inspired, And I was just like, mom, she looks
like crazy, and like that's why I don't post the
dogs ever, because my mom does the.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Own grooming on them.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And I'm like, I can't claim these dogs if they're
looking like you have to because they look like they
went through the blender. And I tell her all the time,
I'm like, Mom, you need to stop.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
This madness right now.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It's not nice.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
You're bringing them out into the world and they're getting judged.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yes, it's terrible.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
She doesn't want to stop.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Does she have a sparkly collar? She doesn't put them
on a sparking coror.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
No, she's just I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
She's like she has a full grooming station in her way,
and I'm just like, why are you it's like her
hobby that she's not good at hobby. No, I know,
well it's my mom's hobby.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
I'm not getting into the grooming.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, no, no, we're going to cut that. Okay, cool, Well,
let's let's go and play our fun game. So we're
going to come back and we're going to see what
this is all about. Don't go away. We are back
with a segment that we have created just for Justine
called dance Therapy. So this is going to be a
(28:18):
healing thing, dance therapy with Justine. I'm wearing a kind
of a crazy lat with mirror things on it and
a cheese board. He's ready for the rain and I'm
ready for the rain and glasses, and Justin has a
program thing in front of her. She can make all
sorts of different sounds. You in the past have said
how much you like dance music, and so do I.
So I'm going to give you some insane scenarios that
(28:40):
I could or could not find myself in, and you
pretending to be my DJ, will have fifteen seconds to
identify what song you would play based upon this scenario. Okay,
while you are thinking, I will dance as I would
in this unfortunate scenario, you're going to be crazy. The
(29:01):
first one is I am at a club in Abisa.
Is it Abisa or Bitha? What do you say?
Speaker 4 (29:06):
You know?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Tomato, tomato, tomato. I love that it's an answer without
an answer, It's an answer within an answer. Food poisoning
is starting to settle in. I know. So I've had
some bad klamari.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You're in Abiza, and the food poisoning is starting.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
To settle in, and so I'm dancing to this kind.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Of okay, so I think that this is like this
is the letout right, Like it's the end of the
party and they're letting people out, and so it's like
this is a slow song, but it's still like it's
this one's more like trippy than and so it's eventually
by Tam and Paula, and you're just like, this is not.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
How it goes.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
But the vibe is right, it's more like euphoric, you know,
because if you're feeling it like you're just like keep. Yeah,
it's like that the letout is like the end, okay.
The letout is the end of the party. So it's
like everyone's like confused, they don't know what they're doing.
(30:13):
They're like, are we going out more? We're going to
the after the morning. It could be like the letout
at inn abizat Circle Locos at like six.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Am, six am okay, So it's like coming up.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
The sun could be coming up still like it's about
to like it's about to start maybe okay, and you know,
everyone's just like whose house are we going to?
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like like what are we going to do?
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Because like we don't want to go to sleep yet.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Everyone's still buzzing with for yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
Everyone like yeah, everyone's still buzzing.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And so it's like that is the letoutka and I've
stayed there until the letout, And there's sometimes you don't
want to be somewhere for the letout, like it's like damn,
like you're that desperate you're at the party to the
letout like that's but if you're at a rave, like it's.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
It's fine, yeah no one remember, yeah exactly. Okay, So
this next one ready, So someone is cutting me off
on the four or five, you know the four or
five right in la. Oh yes, and I am furious, Okay, okay,
I'm gonna sit for this one.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Okay, So for this I would choose Next Level Charlie
by Charlie XCX.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And it's like, no, I don't know if it's that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
That's is good.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Oh, it's more like it's more like.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Technoy like yeah, and it's fun and it's just like
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
And she's like, I guess we didn't know the highway.
She's speeding on the highway.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Okay, I'm got okay, Yeah, that was nice.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah, and you're like, fuck yo.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I literally I shot the when I shot the cover
for Candy, I my face was obviously like pink and
orange like glossy, and I was just like, you know what,
I'm gonna drive home like this and see like how
many people. All my friends said that I mean my
windows to be tinted like darker, and I'm like, guys, like, no,
people need to see me, like I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what the hell?
Speaker 3 (32:06):
People like like what if I meet the love of
my life at like the stoplight.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
One exact look over and I don't actually look.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
At people like when i'm driving unless for the first
time the other day, I think it was yesterday, I
took my road rage to another level.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh no, what happened, so you get road rage?
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It was like the taxi driver and he like they
don't give up buck like they will literally just like
ruin their cars to get ahead. And I'm just like, dude,
and I have a nice car, so I'm like, go ahead. Yeah,
I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna into.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
The fight with you.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
But he cut me off so crazy, and it's like
the New Yorker in me where I'm just like, we
just do that. We honk we yeah, yeah, just how
that's just like the culture of it. When I was
in LA for like three weeks and I was driving
out there and I like honked once and my friends
are like, Justine, you can't do that here, Like why
are you so aggressive? And I'm like, because get out
(32:56):
the way.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, yeah, places to go.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
But yeah, I pulled up on the guy, like I
pulled up next to him for the first time ever,
like put my window down, and I was like, what
the fuck is your problem?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
And he was just like.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, And I'm like, you know what, Like road rage
is kind of just like I was talking to my
uncle about this, and he's like, when I was younger,
like I used to get out the car and like
yell at people to but it's like, what are you
about to do fight the person? Like no, because then
you're going to jail. So it's like you kind of
just have to keep driving.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, it's like it.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Sucks, but it's like because you want to like.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
There's no resolution.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
There's no resolution. It sucks.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Like I wish I had like a back horn, so
the people that like honk at me, like I wish
I could.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
Just like like I.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Wasugh, it's like horrible, Okay, next thing, two am on
the dance floor. I'm on the dance floor. I see
my grandmother dancing across the room.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Two am on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Or two am my grandmother's dancing across the room.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I would say la la oh by Justine Scott.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Yes, I like that choice ver much.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Because it's like if grandma's at the party, she wants
to get she wants to get down, she wants to
get down.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
So it's like I feel like I.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Feel like, you know what, I haven't asked my grandma.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
She likes that song. Oh, how I will?
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Does she weigh in on your on your music?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
No, I think it's like a bit inappropriate for her,
but like it's a bit like you know, like this
is like I think, like the raunchiest music that i've
right put out. She was young ones to right, Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
There you go, the one that I want to try.
I'm dancing at a friend's birthday party when the cake
comes out and I see the flavor is a colorflower
head cheese blend.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I'm looking at the recommendations here and my eye instantly went.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
To salt and Peppa.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Push it, yeah, okay, push that ship away, Okay, And
you're just like push it, like push get that away
from me?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Well yes, no you don't want it?
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah exactly, Yeah that.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
And push it. Wait. I love what's going on here.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Oh. I was gonna say, you're a good sport, but
I'm a good sport.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I just sat here and drank my coffee and.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
I got a little exercise. This is so much fun.
Thank you so much for coming on playing around.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
This has been so much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Tell me the EP I think first and foremost that's
the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Yes, Candy, you can definitely go check out Candy.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
I've listened to the songs. They're all great.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yes, and yeah, there will be tour, there will be festivals,
me so many exciting things.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
That's so wonderful. And this summer you have your eyes
on Europe and.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Absolutely I've kind of like made a promise to myself
that I'll go to Abiza every summer for as long
as I can. Yeah, at least for a couple of days,
like the minimum, a couple of days.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's fun and I think you find inspiration there. I
think within that world or something about that that is
magnetic for you. So that's wonderful. Well, thank you very much.
Just this is great. Well, folks, that's all we have
time for today. On our show What Are We Even Doing?
I think we really figured out what We're even doing. Well,
we talked, we talked around it, we got closer, and
it's been really a pleasure to have you on. Thank you,
(36:07):
Thanks Justine, Okay, tank care everybody.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What Are We Even Doing is a production of iHeartMedia
and the Elvis Duran podcast Network, hosted by me Kyle
McLachlin and created and produced by Full Picture productionists Yay,
featuring music by Yata and artwork by Danica Robinson. For
more information about the podcast, please visit our Instagram and
(36:31):
TikTok at wawed with Kyle. Please rate, review, and subscribe
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