January 22, 2026 • 46 mins
Digital creator, columnist & podcaster Tefi Pessoa sits down with Kyle to unpack how she established her career & connects with so many people via pop culture, a mindblowing Elizabeth Taylor story, how to approach auditions & choose optimism, their thoughts on Britney Spears & Hamlet, how Tefi navigates interviewing celebrities on the red carpet, Kyle’s longtime love for wine, social media, why it’s time to really be weird, and the sweet nectar of nostalgia. Keep it locked for “Teach Me Tefi”, a lesson on current Internet trends just for Kyle.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are we even doing? What are we even doing? Hey?
What's going on? Is Kyle maclachlin, what are we even doing?
We're gonna find out, Well, we're gonna try to find out.
This is a show where we talk with your favorite actors, musicians,
creatives of all types, discussing process, creative process, how it
(00:24):
all began, and we're gonna get weird together, but in
a very good way. Today, special guest Teffy is here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I already said your name, and I was supposed to
produce you first as a genius storyteller, pop culture professor.
I love the alliteration that was a pop culture professor
and the Internet's big.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Sister can I like, I like older cousin.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Older cousin, and then that's older cousin because I am.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Like a big sister to two other people and they've
never asked me for advice.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Not one. We're gonna change that. We're gonna change Thatfie
is in the house, ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, thank you
so much for being here. Of course, all things pop culture.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I love all things pop culture. I come from a
long line of very nosy women and it's and it's
very much paid off.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I can see that you're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Thank god, there's no plan B. This has to work. Actually,
when you said professor, I'm like, that's crazy. I dropped
out of college five times.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Five times. I only dropped out of college once.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You did.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, so I did, but five times. Yeah, I know,
I know. I've got a long way to go.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I love an icebreaker, I love an orientation. I'm like,
I miss being in the car being like, okay, just
in case, what's one fun fact?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Ah, Like okay, what's crazy? What's crazy? I'm like, you
have a moment like, no stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They can see that that's too easy.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Too easy. Oh my god. Well, I want to ask
you when to start by saying, so you you do
so many different things. You're little, and you're and you're
thank you. In fact, where was the beginning? What started? What?
What triggered? What was your kind of core thing like
oh I'm good at this, or I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Or so you agree I'm good at this, you are
good at this. So I was born on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So was I I was like twenty second nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow, yeah, long way back. Black and white, Black and
white television. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I've always very much known that I don't have like
a skill set besides talking.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I think as a child, I knew I could make
people feel comfortable, okay, and pop culture was a great
tool for that. Yes, I think if people don't want
to talk about themselves, we could easily talk about like
spice World. Now, I really feel like as a child
I was obsessed with people's stories too. I think I've
always been very scared to make mistakes. Like I was
(02:35):
a child who like wanted to be very perfect. I
thought I was going to be like a I thought
I was going to grow up to wear like cardigans
so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, it's not too late, And if you wore them,
they would be they would go immediately into fashion. Yes,
thank you set the trend.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I have that power and I know it, and I'm
sitting on it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Waiting for cardigan. Members of the world are like, please
please help us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm like, tell j Curll call them back. But I
do think that as a child I wanted to be
so perfect all the time. And then I remember watching
like v H one Behind the Music and like cev
Nicks like the ups and the downs, and like she
allegedly did some drugs.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've heard that rumors are so nasty. Yes, but I
feel like I watch these people make these horrible mistakes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But also the pop culture that I was absorbing was
not so. I love Britney Spears, will die for her,
like of course I knew like nineties two thousands pop stars,
but my grandparents and I would sit and talk about
Carol Burnett.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know. So when I'm talking to people and I'm like, oh, well,
you know like so and so actor, even Elizabeth Taylor.
People have asked me, like, who is Elizabeth Taylor, I'm like,
are you old enough to vote?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Because on Register Taylor early.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Of course we love Elizabeth Taylor and Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Was in the movie with Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, you were, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I never thought about saying it like that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
At the time of her death, she was seeing Colin
Ferrell google it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He said it was see what we're learning here. This
is unbelievable that the person coming with something like this
that's incredible within the first five minutes, Within the.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
First five minutes, my lord, I'm here, We're connecting. This
is what we're doing. But Colin Farrell met her at
a party, which is crazy, right, and they had a
romance and time she died and he said it was
a huge heartbreak for him.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh, because she's magic. He's with Taylor's magic. I don't
care what age she is, She's magic. I love that
you grew up the way I was thinking when you
were in school. So you're kind of recognizing get you
like you like people? Do you have Like do you
have a network? Could you keep a network of friends
from school that you still connect with that you're still yes, yes,
I have.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The majority of people in my life are like people
I've known since either like birth. Like one of my
best friends is my cousin, but I'm Latin, so it's
my mom's best friend's daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But I do have friends that when I was little,
they're like, Tevy, you should do TRL And I'm like,
that's what I'm thinking, you know, Like finally somebody sees it,
you know. Yeah, And I was like in seventh grade
and I knew. There was one moment where I was like,
I know, I'm going to be on TV one day,
but I thought I was going to be a real housewife.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I thought that was my destiny.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
If they called you, if they haven't called you. We're gonna,
we're gonna, we're going to figure this out. They have
I think just call everybody away. I'm sorry, you would
just take over that there's no one would be able
to compete with you? Or would you be like you
take take care of everybody exactly?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And I wouldn't be like a stir? Can you uney
curse on here? Can I say shit? I wouldn't be
like a ship stir exactly exactly, because.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Again, there is that child inside of me that, like,
I don't want to embarrass my mom, well my mom
on on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't think I would.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Be successful, you know what I mean, Like I'm showing
nipple on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know what I mean, Like I can't have my
mom see that.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We're going to cut that out. Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with you. I think I mean I you
would talk about being perfect, and I had a similar
kind of need, yeah, to really have this perfect thing.
And the crazy thing is getting into social and working
with my.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Team gorgeous twinks.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But it's kind of taken away that that thing is.
They're like, no, no, no, authentic is better. Real mistakes
are great, and that's not the way I grew up,
not not me and then not necessarily well, I wouldn't
say my parents. My mom was kind of a perfectionist.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, of course you also started finding success in a
time where there was a million people that wanted this,
like sitting in that room waiting to like waiting for
your audition, like having to be on top of your game.
But it really going to auditions is athleticism.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's idiots. Just like it's like an Olympic event or something. Yes,
prepare yourself for.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It, and you have to also like have this like shield.
It's like almost you have to adopt a delusion that
you will make it or else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so I had one thing interesting that was told me.
I don't know if Tom Hank it was credited to somebody. Say,
when you go to an audition, just think of it
as a one night only performance. Yes, I love to
sell out performance of how you know, two people, three people, whatever,
but this is it. I'm doing this one night only.
Here's my performance. Thank you very much. It was a
great run. Good night, good night yea and leave and
(06:57):
then they call you back and say, hey, what I
got an encore, We're gonna go back for one more night,
another night of performance.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You just think of it like that, and then you're like,
I own this.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, and you don't. I think that's also less personal.
It's so less personal when I think about myself. I
don't know if it's if I'm an unreliable narrator, but
I do remember being very nervous that I was annoying people.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Narrator she was, I was very annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like I knew my teachers didn't like me because I
couldn't stop like doing bits, and I didn't want that
to like bleed into my adult life, especially being in entertainment.
I cannot live that way. Yeah, or I will never
leave my house. Yeah, and my house is literally my
favorite place to never leave, So like I have to,
I tell myself place exactly, it's my safe. When I meditate,
(07:43):
I think of either my apartment like my living room,
or I think everybody would agree, the Owl's house and Winnie.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The pool that's my see.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well that's a great. Yeah, that's a great so safe. Yeah, yeah,
so safe.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So every time I enter a room, I think everybody
in that room already likes me, Alrea, you like me?
Or I'm like, oh my god, what if I make
a lifelong friend in this room?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like I think about it that way.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's very proactive.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yes, delusion, you have to like adopt it. People ask
me that a lot about my job too, where it's
like being like a content creator. Yeah, you do have
to adopt this kind of delusion where everything is going
to work out or if it doesn't, Like, if something
you do doesn't get views or listens or streams, you're
just that niche and exclusive, like.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
A high end adoptimism. I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Am I going to be? Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, I think so. I see that in myself too.
I mean, were you a theater boy? I was, oddly yes,
oddly yes, I know this is crazy, but there was
a distinction within the theater boy world. Okay, so, yes,
I did the plays in high school and I did
a couple of teen theater things. Did not take the
(08:52):
drama classes. The kids that were in the drama classes
were really there was no way to survive high school
and say that you were taking a drama class.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You were so horny, ostracized trauma kids are so horny.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No that in college they were yeah, okay, yeah, okay, okay.
But in high school they were just odd balls. So
I did the plays and I did the musicals. But
that was okay. That was accepted within the general population.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because it was fun of you. Oh my god, he's
so fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He's turky, exactly right. And it was a weird thing
because I said, I think I'm good at this. That
was kind of my first thing. No, my first kind
of like, there was nothing else that had the same
kind of impact on me, or I felt like I
was good nothing in school. I was terrible at school. Nothing.
I just said this, I feel like a kinship, you know,
kind of like you you know, you're like you can
come into a room, you want to engage with people, Yeah,
(09:37):
you want to, like it's funny. It's my son is
sort of similar. He has no problem in high school
engaging students, teachers, whatever. And I think I feel like
you very similar teachers too. Were you able to like, No,
they wanted me dead?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And I think that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not all of them wanted you dead. There were something
that recognized he said, this is a woman who has talent.
I said, something that's going to she's going to use somewhere.
She's interesting because you we spoke a lot in class, right, yeah,
opinions and ideas, and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Then I was labeled as bossy. I was disruptive and bossy.
Really listen, I've got jokes focus. I've been practicing those
jokes in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Ye, mind you.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
My mom is like at seven am, why are we
playing Tracy Chapman. I'm doing my set and my mom
loves herself.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Some mom is in the papa.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I know all about the word.
It kind of comes from in your version of that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I remember like being in school and knowing that I,
I mean, I was also bullied within an inch of
my life. But wow, I mean I was five foot
seven in the fourth grade with a mole.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean it was like, yeah, I like, I seven
with a mole. Watch out.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, like in nineteen ninety nine, yeah, size ten.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Foot you were like, come on, bring it on. You
were tough.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, they were like I was tough tef they called
teflondn even teflondn even.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But I do remember, but still some of it hurts
so much.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know, I come home battered and Bruce Gogert all
over me. No yogurt in a tube is crazy to
give an eight.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Year old awful, It's insane.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, my mom's like, what do you have got? I'm like,
you try eating it? Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But I do feel like there was this moment where
I knew I could make people feel comfortable. And I
always felt lost in class always, so when I explained
things to people, like, for example, I would never make
somebody feel embarrassed that they didn't know who I don't
know who, like yeah, or like Helen Marin or something whatever,
like Dame Judy danch or something.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
If I would never.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Have hope, Oh my god, you're.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Gonna love this.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You wouldn't believe how many people haven't seen Virges over
Madison County have not seen that movie and they are
also get this registered to vote. But I do remember loving,
loving people, not understanding why they didn't like me, and
pop culture was such a good way to talk to people.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know, when people get together for the first time,
they tried to find common ground. Movies people always talk
about shit movies, move What are you watching? What movies?
What shows? That's your way in?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It is a way, and I remember my mom and
I going a Blockbuster. So my mom is a single mom,
so she would make sure that we all had different
date nights with my mom, even if it was at
the house. My mom would close the bedroom door and
be like, Okay, we can listen to any any music
you want for an hour and you can jump on
the bed. So we would do Backstreet Boys. Well, she
(12:25):
was a little she was a little uh sassy most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But I think that's also what I think about raising kids.
I'm like, how can I raise them to be good
people without using shame?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Because I'm Catholics. I have no idea. I'm like, how
can I.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Not don't shame?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, no shame, no shame, no shame.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No shame.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But I feel like that was like a whack to
me sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, she just was that. It was the Catholic thing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think I'm cool because of shame. No, don't put
that in, but that's thee.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, cool because of shame.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tedfie's a shame.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But pop culture is a language where I remember watching
Crocodile don d with her with one of her date
nights and I didn't understand the scene where he goes
to the party and the guy's doing drugs and he
puts it in the pot and he's like puts a
tow over and he's like, now breathe in. The guy's like,
oh my god. I'm I'm like looking at my mom
like what is that. She's like, you know, I couldn't
catch it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
What could I possibly be? You know? But I remember
watching A Family Man with Nicholas Cage with my mom.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I remember watching so much. We watched Blow Together two,
which was crazy. I was like, Okay, my Mom's like,
this can't this isn't Did they say she's Colombian? No,
they could be another country's Columbia, like a drug war.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Mommy, Yeah, really, this is what we're gonna have today. Yeah,
but what a good thing to do. So how many
So you are three? Three? One of three? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Three?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And we all love movies, we all love shows, we
all we're TV people, like you know in wedding crashers. Yes,
they do football, like so every family has a thing
like game night. Yeah, I mean, like my family, we
did movies.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Have you ever met Britney Spears.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I have not, but I have a but I have
to care for her. But I have not even a
concern but or a worry. But I'm like, I kind
of feel like I have a care and it's a challenge.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
She's in a difficult situation. She needs to be understood,
yes she does, and kind of like, hey, hey, hey, okay,
this is a woman who needs our understanding. I think first, yes,
lead with that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's so painful to hear, like and pop culture happens
so often to like even people like Judy Garland, all
the things that were underset, how much help was needed,
you know what I mean, all of that, you know,
And when it comes to Brittany Gan Spears, who's a Sagittarius, Yeah,
sit with that, Sit with that. When I think about her,
I'm like, she would have been a fantastic cheer coach.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She would have been a great.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Like dance teacher, you know, like going to Nationals glitter
telling her girls, we've got this, you know, and I
bring it on, it's already been brought in like that
kind of vibe. And instead I think her family was
just like they saw a cash cow, you know. And
I think that's the hardest part because do you remember
her like giggle, like her laughing, What a gorgeous, beautiful laugh.
(15:11):
We'll probably never hear it again.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Have you met her? I would not be here, Okay,
you would be. I would be I'd be like, what
else is there to do?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you want to not meet her? I don't want
to meet her? No, no, no, I think that I
would scare her. I don't. I feel like she's like a.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You would want to help her.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I would want to help her, but then I would
want her to know that I know she needs help.
It's that thing.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like because I don't want to infantilize a grown
woman either.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But that's my baby.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's the care.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's the care, that's the care. But who do you
think is someone it's my podcast? Now, who do you
think is someone who like surprised you? Like someone that
you met and you were like, I didn't think I
would connect with them this.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Way or every day. It's odd. I remember when I
met Charlie X and I was like, which have traded
back and forth? I didn't even where you see her
perform and she's a powerhouse power and just I mean,
so confident and so talented. We met in a funny
place where were I was in Spain. She was doing
(16:13):
a show there summertime, and she's strong. We came, yeah, horrible,
horrible conditions. We came just to watch her and she
she came back and gave me a big hug. She
don't have to do any of this. I was with
a group of like eight people. She said hello to
each person, she did pictures with each person. She just
so she said thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I was like, she's funny. Have you met Victoria back?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No, I have not. But you don't know this. People
don't you know. It's like one of these things where
this is a she's got such great heart.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And I can't blame people for not giving the public
their heart because we literally we stomp on it, you
know what I mean. So I understand why people don't know.
I'm sure people know now that Charlie XX is funny.
Who is your favorite Hamlet?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I like Ethan's funny enough, and I did that. I
did it with Ethan Hawk and I did Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You I know which Ethan?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know which one? You heard of him?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, I'm quite familiarly.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, he just he did such a great job. He
made it was so accessible. I think one of one
of the big challenges with Shakespeare, of course, is like
how does it How is it accessible? Because he's talking
about the same themes that we're dealing with every day.
But it's so dense and difficult for to get into,
you know what I mean, and the learning curve is deep.
(17:30):
Let's just say so the one we did was what
he paired it down and cut the cut the heck
out of the play, and Ethan did a really beautiful job.
Who's your favorite mel Gibson.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, he's so it's so sad, but he's like when
I think of actor, he's a great actor. As a person,
I don't know. He has like a church on his
in his backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Don't we all have? Don't you have a church?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, tax I'm paying my taxes.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'd rather have I have the merchendary on my I
don't want the church to myself.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean you to get a deduction? Maybe does he
get an induction for absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He does. Absolutely, he does that already pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So you're you're on the red carpet, okay, so and
people coming, what's the connect Some people recognize you? Hey,
and they can sometimes something you have to say hey,
and they're like you have something in your brain you're
gonna be I'm gonna say this or I'm gonna is there?
It depends is it the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's the moment.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I think something along the lines of I think when
you're on the Red carpet, you have to know that
you're about to meet this person's like character, like when
you're alone in Aruna party, there's no they're no longer.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That character on there exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I'm not meeting Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm meeting Lady Gaga, you know what I mean, like
this person and I haven't, but I would love to
say that one day.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, but like, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
We're going to manifest.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I feel like when you're on the Red carpet one,
people are very scared of TikTok and the SoundBite, you
know what I mean. So making someone comfortable immediately, you
know what I mean? So saying if it's a girl
saying something like I'm looking for earrings, just like that,
like where do I get those earings? Well that's a
little stupid because she's like my stilence.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Nobody see what you're going You're taking it off of
the moment into something that's like specific, yes and short
and kind of yes, you know easy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Also, I use what I did as a child.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'll say something in pop culture, like I'll say like,
did you see Stevie x is posting about Lindsay She
said happy birthday Lindsay. Like, I'll say something and they'll
be like, no, I know, and I'm like, this is
crazy town. This is crazy town. Never let your situation
ship from sixty years. No, you're still thinking about that, yeah,
you know. Like I'll say something like that, or if
I feel like the person is funny, I'll be like,
(19:32):
are we rolling?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Who'd you vote for? And then I'll say just kidding
the heart great spikes.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now we're warmed up and now they know that I'm insane,
and then we have like a fun back and forth.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But it depends.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
My favorite person I've ever, ever, ever, ever, ever interviewed
is Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You can see me, but no, no, no, this is conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
McCarthy is my favorite favorite favorite Yeah, and I love
her so much, but she's I love when somebody meets
you halfway, when somebody is like not giving you anything
to worry with I'm like, I'm dressed a little girl.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, just trying my heart out.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Please I have to post this. I am yeah. Like
someone's like, how are you doing today? Good? I guess I'll
go fuck myself.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thanks so much for help.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh my god, amazing. Thanks. Don't be so vulnerable. Let
me throw your line yeah, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, and which is improv exact? Come on, we're improving here,
give me something I.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like to sing.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Ah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But sometimes when someone is also on the red carpet
and the person before me, when the public is like
one more question, she's like, I have five more questions.
I'm like, I'm going to get I'm going to get
her in a bad mood now, like I'm going to
get the tired girl. Yes, like, and I know I
can see it happening where the actors like nobody respects me.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I haven't really really thought about what goes into this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But you're right, Yes, that's why beta blockers are important.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Incredibly important. And vodka I mean, honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Martini Martiniz are back by the way.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
They never left. They never left. But now in the.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What you are do you have? Are you drinker, Martini
drinker or Enjoyer and bibry you like.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I treat martiniz the way I do tattoos, where I
want one and then I have one.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I go, why am I doing this?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
This sucks in the middle, Yes, quite painful.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, I think I am. I am an orange wine girl.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now, oh, here's my thought about orange wine. I had
to take a deep breath. I think there's a place
and time and a place for everything. You think a
pizza parlor, Yeah, well, yes, I do make wine.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You make wine.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, I have a wine business in eastern Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's a beautiful place to have a wine business.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A great place to have a wine and a.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Beautiful place to have a vampire fall in love with you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh interesting? Why is it a beautiful place? It's twilight,
of course. But here's the things to me, and I've been.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
To forks I have okay, but the wine.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The wine, But the wine is on the other side
of the stage.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, oka, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well anyway, completely different. But I do love work too,
But it's all about the grapes. Yeah, I love it.
I've been doing this since twenty twenty, two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Apology may, I will not be drinking am Marlow.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, that's oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It affected Merla sales.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It did, it did, and they're just now coming back
the powerful it's the powerful media cardigans this film. I'm
still waiting whip out the card again. Do we have
a cardigan that we can share?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
No? I would you love nothing more than do a
podcast and a shared card again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Idea. That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But when did you get into wine?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I started in high school.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There are so many layers to you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I wasn't a beer drinker. I mean, you know, you
see the error of your ways as you get older.
But wasn't a beer drinker. But wine really appealed and spirits,
which just kind of they just burned the inside of
my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Was like that, Yeah, and I tell my secrets. I
can't handle spirits.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No, it's too hard. But wine seems right. And I
also liked the idea, you know, it was kind of
the romance of it and sort of the oddness of it.
I was like one of a handful of people who
drank wine in my in my high school, no, and
nobody in my high school. But in college nobody drinks
wine in college. No, no, no, no, it's just yeah affectatious.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you're drinking wine in college, like you're going through something.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, yeah, I left. I dropped out of school for
that for that one quarter. You said you dropped out
five timesating seriously.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
My mom's like, you can't do this. I'm like, but
I got to get back into what is it? Communications? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I took I was going to be I took communications.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Would you drop out to do acting?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Kind of? I dropped out because I was not doing
well in school. So I just said no, you know,
and so I dropped out of school. I went to
work at a lumber factory. I cut wood for about
three months, made some money back in my hometown, and
I went to Summerstock. That summer. I had this a
little plan. I said, well kind of, there was no plan. B.
You know what I'm talking about it this is it.
And I went to flat Rock, North Carolina flat Rock Playhouse.
(23:36):
I got the lead role in the one apprentice role
in the one play that did look forward to Angel.
It was like validation. It's like I can't always ask
me I think I can do this, I don't know
how or how it wasn't in my family.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
When you know, when you know, like when they say
like when you know, you know. I feel that way
about work sometimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Like, yeah, but trust it? Do you trust it?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, my soulmate or work work?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I trust myself.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I just feel like this is a thing. Sometimes I'm
like when I watch, for example, I love water World.
Water World is one of the best films ever.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right, because there are films that I love as well, see,
but something about them? Yeah, what is it? Is there
anything about water World specifically that you're like, this is
why I love it? Is it just the idea?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I think it's so.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I mean the opening scene where he like drinks his pea,
I'm like, I'm in. I'm like here here we are,
like me asking my mom what is scurvy? Like it's
just like it's like, why does that man want the
fruit so bad?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's like scurvy? And I'm like, what the hell is scurvy?
How much should I be concerned?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, Yeah, you're okay. I'm like, we're at sea level
from Miami, plenty of oranges. You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm gonna be fine. There's dam and see everywhere for
eyes to see.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, but I love stories, and I think people don't
want stories anymore. They want to be entertained. That is different.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think people should we should make with the weirdest
movies possible. They're like, that would never happen in real life.
Oh good thing, it's a fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I obviously I think
it's a really good observation stories.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
People are like, oh, that doesn't even look like New York.
We're watching Mighty morphin Power Rangers. Yeah, who cares if
it doesn't look like Crosby Street the way you remember it,
Like whatever, And so I think we're doing like all
these superhero movies because people are just like they don't
want stories that they don't want They just want to
be like entertained, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And I'm like, where are the weirdos that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Why is it not? They don't want to connect with something?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Is there a people don't want to reflect? I think
so much.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's like when my mom is like really busy, she
won't watch TV or movies, Like when she's overwhelmed with work,
she'll just like, I don't know what she does, you
guys on her peloton.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, but she or she'll
read something on her kindle, but she can't like emotionally attach.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yes, just something that sort of calm down or as
you said, detach.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, you know, I'm going to say this tell me.
And so in the times of social media where we
could be.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The most times of social media, hotail is all this.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I feel like we now have the opportunity to be
the weirdest possible.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Like when I watch like Hackers with Angelina Joli, you
know what I mean, And like there's all these people
that they're dressed like you know, like I think about
the nineties, I grunge, Like this is like the time
to be like our most weird, Like the Fifth Element
is my favorite movie of all time. Like this is
the time for us to be like weirdos. We're going troadwife,
apron blonde hair, blonde hair.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I love you, But I'm just saying. I'm just saying,
like in the way where I'm like clean, clean girl,
Look what are we talking about. We need to shave
our heads, yeah yeah, and go and go wild. We
need to bleach our eyebrows and dye our eyelashes green, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We need to be as weird as there's so many
things to see, you know, online. I mean, it's just
it's a bombardment of different stuff. I feel like there's
a need for for sort of a here's a linear story.
We're gonna follow these people, We're gonna like go on
this journey together. I just don't feel there's the patience anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But I also am a firm believer of the pendulum
it will swing back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
As a father of a teen, how do you think
social media has a fit?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I love our podcast, yes, going on social do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Social media is affected him? Because I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I think it certainly had an impact, right, But on
Callum's side, it's a it's a creative thing as well.
I mean, some of it's just nonsense. Okay, that's fine,
I get it. I mean, you know, remember we're fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years old. You're like, you know, just Mad magazine,
you know what I mean, just stuff that's just goofy
(27:28):
and silly love Mad magazine magazine. But there's also the
learning side of it. So sometimes he's watching things and
the sort of learning about volcanoes in somewhere or the pyramids, needs.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I could crush her castordable right now because media, you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Know how to do it. Yeah, exactly. I would not
have known that any other way. You're not going to
go get a book at the library and say how
to cast edible.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No father, like farmer John just did it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you can get the four step process.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
This is what you do. Go it. Yeah, you learn
about how people live.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, yeah, it's cool, you know, because you can travel
the world and the mind of people just you know,
right here at the palm of your hand. But I
do feel like that there is there's a story, which
I think is why I enjoy and he enjoys sitting
down and watching you know, we'll watch an episode of
Star Wars or something the best. It's a telling. It's
a story. It's a journey, and it's like we can't
(28:16):
lose that. That's so important and I don't think we will.
Stories are just they're just part of who.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
We are someone.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, right now, we're like we're someone is creating a
story right now. They just have to live through it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I need AI just stop being so scary though it's
freaking me out. Yeah, it's very very scary.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm like, no one, no one watched Minority Report. I
do feel like AI is getting to a place where
I just don't I want a I want. I fear
that people like your son will feel like they're constantly
being tested to see if they're a good person, like
the good person contests, and that they also are desirable,
but they also don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But they're also empathetic.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
But they're also very cool and very busy, but they
also have time for their lovemons I social media.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This is life. If this is don't you remember growing up?
These were all things. It's just that it's accelerated. Yeah,
and it's in their face all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Do you have lifelong friends?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I do.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
How do you balance career and maintaining your friendships?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I don't, Okay, I was I friends. No, It's weird
because I have my friends from grade school who I
just saw recently. We don't see each other that frequently
when we do get back together for whatever reason. I
was just up in my hometown of Yakama. I was
doing a speech there at the Capitol Theater, like a
little talk at the Capital Theater. A couple of my
friends came up from Portland and one still was in
Yakama and they came to see me and I told
(29:34):
the stories and I shouted out it from the stage
and it was really fun. We share, you know, you
share this history and it's so interesting because I was like,
do I like, I do like to reminisce it's.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We are such water signs. It makes me sick. If
you could put nossage on a pipeye to smoke it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, there you go. I mean, it's crazy, right, Oh
my god, I agree. I wouldn't say it exactly like that,
but I agree what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
What's that bench? It's like we were girls together in
the park bench in Central Park. It's like, to my
best friend Susan from Julie, we were girls together. I
could cry right now.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh that's really mean too. That's really because it really
is that right. And as I think, honestly, the older
I get, the more I'm like, let me think back
on that and remember those days, because they'll have memories
that that that I don't have, and vice versa. And
we share this and I think it's such an important thing.
I don't do it that much. I wish I did
it more.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, but this is the thing capitalism we have to
worry it's not.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I literally look at people and I'm like, capital, I
can't because I have to pay my rent.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I have to go to right, you gotta go work,
you gotta go to work.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yes, oh yes, I do have a podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm mean listening to your podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'm getting no.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
No, no, I want to hear. I want to hear.
I want to hear. I want to hear. Okay, how
did you sort of plan I'm gonna talk about this,
talk about this, talk about this.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I mean, thank god, the Kardashians always doing something, I
mean without during COVID, I was like, what are what
am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right now? Go outside, do something exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I have this podcast because I wanted to be like
before I did social media, I was a receptionist and
I went to this like random audition for to host
my own pop culture show before it was in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I showed up like five hundred people auditioned. I got it,
and that's crazy, I know. I was literally just I
was googling how to transfer call like I like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Poorly, you know what I mean, that's where you were headed?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And then this I would cry to my mom being
like I'm never going to do anything, like I'm never
going to travel.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
My mom would laugh and I'd be like, what she's like.
Life has a funny way of putting you in the
place you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yes, yes, how do I wish we could trust that?
I wish we could trust that, and I can't. You know,
it's very it's impossible until it happens, and you're like, oh, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I guess it did work out.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But like like being a receptionist and like not having
any skills, like I was saying before, I would literally
use I was a personality higher, like the face.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Of personality higher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And I remember just trying to connect with people all
the time because they won't fire me if they like you.
And you know, I found out that people some moile
fire you even though they like you if you looking
mass up.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They liked me.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I signed a contract and they were offering me health
insurance to this production company for this pop culture show
and it was live every day at twelve thirty. So
my first thing ever in front of a camera was live.
But I knew, I knew I was likable. That's the
only thing I had nothing else. I didn't have experience,
but I knew in my heart that I was likable.
So when I came back and I was like, I
have to quit my job. I got my own show.
(32:23):
They were like, say, you're gonna go work for a competitor.
You have to do these live.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm like, no, true, it's real.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
And then that was we I got the job on
in July twenty nineteen. We went live in October, and
then March thirteen, twenty twenty, they were like, yeah, we're going.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
To take a two week break. And obviously, and on
TikTok I was thirty.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I thought that, honestly, I was just going to try
to maintain this small community I've already built with this show.
I had like ten thousand follows on TikTok at this point,
and I thought like, oh, well, oh it's been a month,
so I'll just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I'll just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And then people started asking me things like will I
ever survive this breakup or something? And I'm thirty at
the point, I'm like, of course, And I would talk
about that and then people say, what was two thousand
and five? Like Tom Cruise jumping on the couch right
tough lot Kanye West.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Business leap to the front of the mine. But yeah,
I understand that has.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
To be on the wiki.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Something I wanted to get back to my receptionist roots
were like I just wanted the girls to listen to
something on the way to work and feel like I
miss it. I do. I don't miss being a receptionist,
but I do miss like, I guess, nostalgia of getting
on the train, like going to work, seeing the front,
the security guard at the front, doing the id thing
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coming in. Yes, the community of it, you know, because
all day long I am literally looking at a reflection
of myself and talking and hoping that people hear me
or that it does well, you know what I mean.
I do I miss like or when I don't believe
in like humanity anymore, I get like I see like
a teenager, like open the door for a pregnant lady,
and I'm like, we're still here. So people are so
(34:00):
good And when you're filming tiktoks alone in your in
your house, sometimes you can forget that there is like
goodness in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I'm just starting this journey, right, and there's lots of
things pop culture, social media, things that I do not understand.
So I'm just going to put it out there and say, Okay,
I need some I need some help, I need some
education on this, and I'd like to ask you some
questions about some things.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
God, I hope I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
No, it's not even quiz. It's just like you're gonna
know everything. Okay, I don't know it. Okay, So I'm
very So that's what I'm laying myself bare here. Lives
in Jos probably don't recognize me in my outfit because
I'm wearing a beanie cap with a propeller the traditional
and the suspenders and a red bow tie and teffe
(34:44):
is very fetching.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
How could you prove your kyle right now?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh, let's see my social Security number? Oh that was
so close. That was so close.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm wearing a button beautiful, gorgeous, but just for people.
Can't say headtoel.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Exactly. I'm wearing nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Nothing in the nude. Yes, I'm in the nude in
a Tom Fourth song. No I'm kidding, I am. I'm
in a gorgeous bib of a shirt with a pink
tie and I've got my glass.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I look like a beauty school dropout.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes you. So we're back and we're gonna do this
segment that I designed just for you. This is called
teach Me Teffy. Teach Me Tiffy, where I get vulnerable
and ask about some trends that I don't quite understand.
(35:40):
Educate me on some of these. Okay, ask away, ask away,
you have a you have a whiteboard. That's what I'm
looking for, a diarrase marker. Okay. Question one, why do
people shay I'm in my blank era? And do people
really need so many eras?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think it's in order.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
So blank era, let's say right now, I'm in my
Tabby like I love Tabby's. Right now, I'm in my
Tabby era, or like I'm in my sci fi era,
or I'm in my maybe I would say my receptionist era.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But also it emphasizes that nothing is definitive, that things
will change. It is a way to take control of
you know what I mean, the timeline happening. So when
someone says like, I'm just really in my lover girl
era right now, a person's looking for somebody to love.
But that may change the messandry era is on her way.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, I understood, understood, okay, very good and eras can change.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
By the drop of a hat or the cut of
a bang, a conversation.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
At the cut of the bang, We're gonna have to
go to that era.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Horrifying.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I like literally watched a teenage dream with Katy Perry,
that music video chain Bank.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So I did it?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
How stupid could you do? I look nothing like Katy?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You tried it?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I did. I was brave.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's I mean, you gotta try, you get something, you
get points for that. I was in my brave girl
hera Okay, I get it. What and who is de Lulu?
I kind of know this, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
De Lulu is a little person that lives inside of us.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
All okay.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So when I was little, okay, I've read this book
that said there's a little man that lives in your
mouth and he can only breathe when you say please
and thank you. As a reminder to children, Delulu is
a is the person is delusional. It's delusions, right, And
it's this little man that lives in your brain stem
and tells you they do like you. In fact, they
(37:35):
haven't texted you, not because they don't like you.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's because they like you too much. Okay, so sometimes
and they protect us. This de Lulu man protects us.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Okay, sometimes it does lead to a wellness check because
he protects.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Us so much, so much.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So for example, let's say you tell me I really
want Baywatch to come back so I can finally.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Be how did you know?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I know? I see in your eyes David, yes that twinkle? Yes, right,
And you're like, that should be me. I should be
in that red bathing suit, and I'd be like, you
know what, his the Lulu, but.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It just might happen, just might happen. That was good.
I didn't expect that answer.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Three why do people post screenshots from their notes app
on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Some of us are writing poetry, some of us never
thought that. Well, sometimes it won It can be an
apology Sorry I said.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That, Oh keep my job.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That can be one, Okay, that's apolongy you know what
I mean, Like please, please please Amazon, don't be scared
of me. I'm saying sorry, you know what I mean, like,
give me a job, right, And then two it can
be to show maybe the how expansive girlhood could be.
Like one note app can be please text like text
mom in the morning, get oranges, toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The next can be I did everything for you. How
could you do this too?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Or like you practice your text. I sometimes if I
have to confront someone, I'll put it in my notes
at you know what I mean. And then sometimes I've
had two wines on a fall evening and I have
things to say. Yes, you know what I mean, babbling
brook of poetry, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yes, And that goes on the notes too.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yes, but it shows like how there's so many layers
and everybody has a little girlhood in them.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
You know, right, we've got to do do Lulu.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
We've got the grounded man, and we've also got the girlhood,
girl in your heads.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay. I always thought it. I mean I thought maybe
people do it because they say, look how busy I am,
Look what I can do. These are my notes. This
is what I'm going to accomplish today.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I think, Yeah, people do care how busy we are.
They do care.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
But I love I love your answer this so much.
What is a canon event?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Climax?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
This is a okay, so a cannon event for example, right,
has your son had a romantic crush already?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, So having a crush on the popular girl who's
dating the quarterback. That's a canon event for every teenager.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You know what I mean? A canon event is oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
A big canon event is when a girl, a girl
and a boy who are a couple in high school
say they're going to stay together through college and they're
long distance. That is a canon event in every young
girl's life.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I feel, Okay, so does it mean it's gonna come?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
You cannot interfere with the canon event?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, it's just yes.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It's also like where's that movie where you go back
at time? But oh, like back to the future. You
cannot interfere you know what I mean? It like makes
you who you are? Yes, Like if I told you like.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I'm gonna so it's something for the future or something
already happened.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Something that's happening, but you cannot interfere with it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Where it is everybody has gone through this, Like it's
when my mom was like, you have to go through
your first heartbreak. I wish I could ticket for you
from you, but this is like it happens to everyone,
Like watching your child be sad is so horrible, But
it is a canon event.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
In their life.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Okay, you know what I mean. It's an art of
exactly should I join the brain rot community? Am I
the brain rot community?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
You are part of the brain rock community because Bratt
became part Anything that becomes becomes part of pop culture lexicon,
they consider it brain rot. So is there a TikTok
sound a sounder trend right now that you're obsessed with
that you think of? Like for me, sometimes I think
of like, give me fourteen of them right now, Like
I think about that all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's brain rot, brain rot.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I've just started only the six seventh thing, but
but I think that's.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Seven is crazy. But you know what it is? Eighties
brain rot? Where's the beef?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
That's brain Oh my god. This happens to me all
the time. Yes, things come and we've actually during the podcast,
we've we've thrown stuff out there all the time that
sticks because of that with that.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Showdown father brain Rot, toot father godfather, godfather brain Yeah,
you come to me on the day of my daughter's BBS.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
You come to me. I must I'm going to grant
you wish. It may never come to happen one day,
I may you know, I'm getting it. I'm getting it.
I might get an A in this. Maybe let's I
think you're on your way. Okay, I get a grade.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You get a grade.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
If people in my comments are calling me mother, is
that a good thing? This is good because I really
feel like I'm asking the right person in these questions,
because you really know, because these are answers that I'm
not expecting, and they're really in depth and you really thought.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Through these are people calling me mother in your comment
section at times? Have you seen them.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Performing me mother in my comments section?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
That is very positive, But it's also like like Beyonce
is mother, like that is mother? You know, Like I
feel like, you know what anybody that's going through like
their David you know what I mean, Like the direction
like they're going through like their David era, you know,
and they're lulu enough to believe that they could be
a director of that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
They are watching a lot of your films.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
And your mother. Yeah, okay, so kind of.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Like David would also be mother, yeah, upper echelon, yes,
But like anybody can be mother, even if for a moment,
like you can.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I can see Jessica Chestain. I'm always trying to see
chest right.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I can see her in a red carpet and she
looks amazing. She's always wearing like emerald green because she
knows it works, and like in her Gucci fit. I
can comment and caps mother like everything, you know what
I mean. I would love to know if there are
people saying that your mother or like one of your
caps should be like, I'm so mother right now.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Okay, that's good. It gets baby girl a lot too,
which I feel like, is.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I do feel your baby girl? Codd ya do you
think I'm babygirl? Do I give baby girl?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Do I give mother?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah? Oh that's tough because based upon what I'm learning,
I feel like mother you are because you so.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Represent or cousin. I give cousin yeah maybe yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, but baby girl, I mean you are baby girl
because there's so this is a tough difference. This is
really a challenge to sort of define these things.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like baby girl. Like people say Jacob Belordi's baby girl.
He's just like so like, yeah, yeah, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like, but also like but tim Timothy Salame is not
baby girl, that's mother.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah yeah so leo oh see this is tricky. I
wish you really at home. There's there's a lot of thinking.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
There's a lot yes, Basketball diaries, Leo Titanic, Leo baby Girl.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Okay, I see, yes, you have to divide it into era.
We're back to era. Look at this starting to speak
to Lu.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You're limitless.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Good lord, my god, I can see it's through my hand.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
My mind is like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Oh my lord. Okay. Lastly, is it cool when actors
become podcasters?
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Shakespeare said life is but a stage? Right, Yes, yes,
I think it's so mother of you to be in
your podcast era, because only like a du Lulu baby
Girl would be like, I'm going to create my own stage.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
And that's brain rock.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And that's brain rock, ladies and gentlemen, that's taffy.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
What a plus.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That's beautiful. Welcome. It's actually a with a little.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Across, you know, as a college dropout. Five times, I'm
giving you an a.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
God, I'm honored, thank you so very much. I feel
like really great. I feel like we connected on so
many levels. And I'm really I'm jazz, So tell me,
just give me what's happening with you? What I am?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I have a column with the cut called ass Tuffy.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yes, which I read. This is great, thank you so much. Yep.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And then I have a podcast with Box called Tevy Talks,
and I have social media where I also show face
and I'm.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Mother there as well.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Okay, this is amazing, and.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Tello Taffy, you can catch me at Hello Teffy or
in your.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Dreams beautiful beautiful. One quick question? Have you ever have
you had your mom on or thought about that or
that so scary?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I mean that would be well, you know when your
parents are on you turn fifteen ye, which is not
like my favorite era of self, you know, but maybe,
but what if they giver what if it's like then
MJ talks and ask mj' also take my job?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah yeah, that's that's a concern. That's a worry, Like
damn they like her more than me.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we don't know the job market. There's
not enough influences out there.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
No, you you're at the very top. All right, folks,
were done. That's why we have confidence. Hey what are
we even doing?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran podcast network,
hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created and produced by
Full Picture productionists Yay, featuring music by Yata and artwork
by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast, please
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Speaker 1 (46:50):
Exclamation point
What are we even doing? What are we even doing? Hey?
What's going on? Is Kyle maclachlin, what are we even doing?
We're gonna find out, Well, we're gonna try to find out.
This is a show where we talk with your favorite actors, musicians,
creatives of all types, discussing process, creative process, how it
(00:24):
all began, and we're gonna get weird together, but in
a very good way. Today, special guest Teffy is here.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I already said your name, and I was supposed to
produce you first as a genius storyteller, pop culture professor.
I love the alliteration that was a pop culture professor
and the Internet's big.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Sister can I like, I like older cousin.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Older cousin, and then that's older cousin because I am.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Like a big sister to two other people and they've
never asked me for advice.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Not one. We're gonna change that. We're gonna change Thatfie
is in the house, ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, thank you
so much for being here. Of course, all things pop culture.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I love all things pop culture. I come from a
long line of very nosy women and it's and it's
very much paid off.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I can see that you're everywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Thank god, there's no plan B. This has to work. Actually,
when you said professor, I'm like, that's crazy. I dropped
out of college five times.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Five times. I only dropped out of college once.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You did.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yes, so I did, but five times. Yeah, I know,
I know. I've got a long way to go.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I love an icebreaker, I love an orientation. I'm like,
I miss being in the car being like, okay, just
in case, what's one fun fact?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Ah, Like okay, what's crazy? What's crazy? I'm like, you
have a moment like, no stupid.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They can see that that's too easy.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Too easy. Oh my god. Well, I want to ask
you when to start by saying, so you you do
so many different things. You're little, and you're and you're
thank you. In fact, where was the beginning? What started? What?
What triggered? What was your kind of core thing like
oh I'm good at this, or I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Or so you agree I'm good at this, you are
good at this. So I was born on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So was I I was like twenty second nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Wow, yeah, long way back. Black and white, Black and
white television. Okay.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
I've always very much known that I don't have like
a skill set besides talking.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I know.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I think as a child, I knew I could make
people feel comfortable, okay, and pop culture was a great
tool for that. Yes, I think if people don't want
to talk about themselves, we could easily talk about like
spice World. Now, I really feel like as a child
I was obsessed with people's stories too. I think I've
always been very scared to make mistakes. Like I was
(02:35):
a child who like wanted to be very perfect. I
thought I was going to be like a I thought
I was going to grow up to wear like cardigans
so crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, it's not too late, And if you wore them,
they would be they would go immediately into fashion. Yes,
thank you set the trend.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I have that power and I know it, and I'm
sitting on it.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Waiting for cardigan. Members of the world are like, please
please help us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I'm like, tell j Curll call them back. But I
do think that as a child I wanted to be
so perfect all the time. And then I remember watching
like v H one Behind the Music and like cev
Nicks like the ups and the downs, and like she
allegedly did some drugs.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I've heard that rumors are so nasty. Yes, but I
feel like I watch these people make these horrible mistakes.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
But also the pop culture that I was absorbing was
not so. I love Britney Spears, will die for her,
like of course I knew like nineties two thousands pop stars,
but my grandparents and I would sit and talk about
Carol Burnett.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You know. So when I'm talking to people and I'm like, oh, well,
you know like so and so actor, even Elizabeth Taylor.
People have asked me, like, who is Elizabeth Taylor, I'm like,
are you old enough to vote?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Because on Register Taylor early.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Of course we love Elizabeth Taylor and Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Was in the movie with Elizabeth Taylor.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yes, you were, and she was.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I never thought about saying it like that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
At the time of her death, she was seeing Colin
Ferrell google it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He said it was see what we're learning here. This
is unbelievable that the person coming with something like this
that's incredible within the first five minutes, Within the.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
First five minutes, my lord, I'm here, We're connecting. This
is what we're doing. But Colin Farrell met her at
a party, which is crazy, right, and they had a
romance and time she died and he said it was
a huge heartbreak for him.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh, because she's magic. He's with Taylor's magic. I don't
care what age she is, She's magic. I love that
you grew up the way I was thinking when you
were in school. So you're kind of recognizing get you
like you like people? Do you have Like do you
have a network? Could you keep a network of friends
from school that you still connect with that you're still yes, yes,
I have.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
The majority of people in my life are like people
I've known since either like birth. Like one of my
best friends is my cousin, but I'm Latin, so it's
my mom's best friend's daughter.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But I do have friends that when I was little,
they're like, Tevy, you should do TRL And I'm like,
that's what I'm thinking, you know, Like finally somebody sees it,
you know. Yeah, And I was like in seventh grade
and I knew. There was one moment where I was like,
I know, I'm going to be on TV one day,
but I thought I was going to be a real housewife.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I thought that was my destiny.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
If they called you, if they haven't called you. We're gonna,
we're gonna, we're going to figure this out. They have
I think just call everybody away. I'm sorry, you would
just take over that there's no one would be able
to compete with you? Or would you be like you
take take care of everybody exactly?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
And I wouldn't be like a stir? Can you uney
curse on here? Can I say shit? I wouldn't be
like a ship stir exactly exactly, because.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Again, there is that child inside of me that, like,
I don't want to embarrass my mom, well my mom
on on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I don't think I would.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Be successful, you know what I mean, Like I'm showing
nipple on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know what I mean, Like I can't have my
mom see that.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
We're going to cut that out. Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with you. I think I mean I you
would talk about being perfect, and I had a similar
kind of need, yeah, to really have this perfect thing.
And the crazy thing is getting into social and working
with my.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Team gorgeous twinks.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
But it's kind of taken away that that thing is.
They're like, no, no, no, authentic is better. Real mistakes
are great, and that's not the way I grew up,
not not me and then not necessarily well, I wouldn't
say my parents. My mom was kind of a perfectionist.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah, of course you also started finding success in a
time where there was a million people that wanted this,
like sitting in that room waiting to like waiting for
your audition, like having to be on top of your game.
But it really going to auditions is athleticism.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
It's idiots. Just like it's like an Olympic event or something. Yes,
prepare yourself for.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It, and you have to also like have this like shield.
It's like almost you have to adopt a delusion that
you will make it or else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so I had one thing interesting that was told me.
I don't know if Tom Hank it was credited to somebody. Say,
when you go to an audition, just think of it
as a one night only performance. Yes, I love to
sell out performance of how you know, two people, three people, whatever,
but this is it. I'm doing this one night only.
Here's my performance. Thank you very much. It was a
great run. Good night, good night yea and leave and
(06:57):
then they call you back and say, hey, what I
got an encore, We're gonna go back for one more night,
another night of performance.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
That's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You just think of it like that, and then you're like,
I own this.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, and you don't. I think that's also less personal.
It's so less personal when I think about myself. I
don't know if it's if I'm an unreliable narrator, but
I do remember being very nervous that I was annoying people.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Narrator she was, I was very annoying.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Like I knew my teachers didn't like me because I
couldn't stop like doing bits, and I didn't want that
to like bleed into my adult life, especially being in entertainment.
I cannot live that way. Yeah, or I will never
leave my house. Yeah, and my house is literally my
favorite place to never leave, So like I have to,
I tell myself place exactly, it's my safe. When I meditate,
(07:43):
I think of either my apartment like my living room,
or I think everybody would agree, the Owl's house and Winnie.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
The pool that's my see.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well that's a great. Yeah, that's a great so safe. Yeah, yeah,
so safe.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So every time I enter a room, I think everybody
in that room already likes me, Alrea, you like me?
Or I'm like, oh my god, what if I make
a lifelong friend in this room?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Like I think about it that way.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's very proactive.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yes, delusion, you have to like adopt it. People ask
me that a lot about my job too, where it's
like being like a content creator. Yeah, you do have
to adopt this kind of delusion where everything is going
to work out or if it doesn't, Like, if something
you do doesn't get views or listens or streams, you're
just that niche and exclusive, like.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
A high end adoptimism. I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Am I going to be? Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, I think so. I see that in myself too.
I mean, were you a theater boy? I was, oddly yes,
oddly yes, I know this is crazy, but there was
a distinction within the theater boy world. Okay, so, yes,
I did the plays in high school and I did
a couple of teen theater things. Did not take the
(08:52):
drama classes. The kids that were in the drama classes
were really there was no way to survive high school
and say that you were taking a drama class.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You were so horny, ostracized trauma kids are so horny.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
No that in college they were yeah, okay, yeah, okay, okay.
But in high school they were just odd balls. So
I did the plays and I did the musicals. But
that was okay. That was accepted within the general population.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Because it was fun of you. Oh my god, he's
so fun.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He's turky, exactly right. And it was a weird thing
because I said, I think I'm good at this. That
was kind of my first thing. No, my first kind
of like, there was nothing else that had the same
kind of impact on me, or I felt like I
was good nothing in school. I was terrible at school. Nothing.
I just said this, I feel like a kinship, you know,
kind of like you you know, you're like you can
come into a room, you want to engage with people, Yeah,
(09:37):
you want to, like it's funny. It's my son is
sort of similar. He has no problem in high school
engaging students, teachers, whatever. And I think I feel like
you very similar teachers too. Were you able to like, No,
they wanted me dead?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
And I think that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not all of them wanted you dead. There were something
that recognized he said, this is a woman who has talent.
I said, something that's going to she's going to use somewhere.
She's interesting because you we spoke a lot in class, right, yeah,
opinions and ideas, and.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Then I was labeled as bossy. I was disruptive and bossy.
Really listen, I've got jokes focus. I've been practicing those
jokes in the car.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Ye, mind you.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
My mom is like at seven am, why are we
playing Tracy Chapman. I'm doing my set and my mom
loves herself.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Some mom is in the papa.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I know all about the word.
It kind of comes from in your version of that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
But I remember like being in school and knowing that I,
I mean, I was also bullied within an inch of
my life. But wow, I mean I was five foot
seven in the fourth grade with a mole.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I mean it was like, yeah, I like, I seven
with a mole. Watch out.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, like in nineteen ninety nine, yeah, size ten.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Foot you were like, come on, bring it on. You
were tough.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Yeah, they were like I was tough tef they called
teflondn even teflondn even.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But I do remember, but still some of it hurts
so much.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know, I come home battered and Bruce Gogert all
over me. No yogurt in a tube is crazy to
give an eight.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Year old awful, It's insane.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, my mom's like, what do you have got? I'm like,
you try eating it? Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
But I do feel like there was this moment where
I knew I could make people feel comfortable. And I
always felt lost in class always, so when I explained
things to people, like, for example, I would never make
somebody feel embarrassed that they didn't know who I don't
know who, like yeah, or like Helen Marin or something whatever,
like Dame Judy danch or something.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
If I would never.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Have hope, Oh my god, you're.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Gonna love this.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You wouldn't believe how many people haven't seen Virges over
Madison County have not seen that movie and they are
also get this registered to vote. But I do remember loving,
loving people, not understanding why they didn't like me, and
pop culture was such a good way to talk to people.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know, when people get together for the first time,
they tried to find common ground. Movies people always talk
about shit movies, move What are you watching? What movies?
What shows? That's your way in?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
It is a way, and I remember my mom and
I going a Blockbuster. So my mom is a single mom,
so she would make sure that we all had different
date nights with my mom, even if it was at
the house. My mom would close the bedroom door and
be like, Okay, we can listen to any any music
you want for an hour and you can jump on
the bed. So we would do Backstreet Boys. Well, she
(12:25):
was a little she was a little uh sassy most
of the time.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
But I think that's also what I think about raising kids.
I'm like, how can I raise them to be good
people without using shame?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Because I'm Catholics. I have no idea. I'm like, how
can I.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Not don't shame?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, no shame, no shame, no shame.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No shame.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
But I feel like that was like a whack to
me sometimes.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Okay, she just was that. It was the Catholic thing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think I'm cool because of shame. No, don't put
that in, but that's thee.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, cool because of shame.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Tedfie's a shame.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But pop culture is a language where I remember watching
Crocodile don d with her with one of her date
nights and I didn't understand the scene where he goes
to the party and the guy's doing drugs and he
puts it in the pot and he's like puts a
tow over and he's like, now breathe in. The guy's like,
oh my god. I'm I'm like looking at my mom
like what is that. She's like, you know, I couldn't
catch it.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
What could I possibly be? You know? But I remember
watching A Family Man with Nicholas Cage with my mom.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I remember watching so much. We watched Blow Together two,
which was crazy. I was like, Okay, my Mom's like,
this can't this isn't Did they say she's Colombian? No,
they could be another country's Columbia, like a drug war.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Mommy, Yeah, really, this is what we're gonna have today. Yeah,
but what a good thing to do. So how many
So you are three? Three? One of three? Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Three?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And we all love movies, we all love shows, we
all we're TV people, like you know in wedding crashers. Yes,
they do football, like so every family has a thing
like game night. Yeah, I mean, like my family, we
did movies.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Have you ever met Britney Spears.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I have not, but I have a but I have
to care for her. But I have not even a
concern but or a worry. But I'm like, I kind
of feel like I have a care and it's a challenge.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
She's in a difficult situation. She needs to be understood,
yes she does, and kind of like, hey, hey, hey, okay,
this is a woman who needs our understanding. I think first, yes,
lead with that.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's so painful to hear, like and pop culture happens
so often to like even people like Judy Garland, all
the things that were underset, how much help was needed,
you know what I mean, all of that, you know,
And when it comes to Brittany Gan Spears, who's a Sagittarius, Yeah,
sit with that, Sit with that. When I think about her,
I'm like, she would have been a fantastic cheer coach.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
She would have been a great.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Like dance teacher, you know, like going to Nationals glitter
telling her girls, we've got this, you know, and I
bring it on, it's already been brought in like that
kind of vibe. And instead I think her family was
just like they saw a cash cow, you know. And
I think that's the hardest part because do you remember
her like giggle, like her laughing, What a gorgeous, beautiful laugh.
(15:11):
We'll probably never hear it again.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Have you met her? I would not be here, Okay,
you would be. I would be I'd be like, what
else is there to do?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you want to not meet her? I don't want
to meet her? No, no, no, I think that I
would scare her. I don't. I feel like she's like a.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You would want to help her.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I would want to help her, but then I would
want her to know that I know she needs help.
It's that thing.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It's like because I don't want to infantilize a grown
woman either.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
But that's my baby.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
That's the care.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
That's the care, that's the care. But who do you
think is someone it's my podcast? Now, who do you
think is someone who like surprised you? Like someone that
you met and you were like, I didn't think I
would connect with them this.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Way or every day. It's odd. I remember when I
met Charlie X and I was like, which have traded
back and forth? I didn't even where you see her
perform and she's a powerhouse power and just I mean,
so confident and so talented. We met in a funny
place where were I was in Spain. She was doing
(16:13):
a show there summertime, and she's strong. We came, yeah, horrible,
horrible conditions. We came just to watch her and she
she came back and gave me a big hug. She
don't have to do any of this. I was with
a group of like eight people. She said hello to
each person, she did pictures with each person. She just
so she said thanks so much for coming.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And I was like, she's funny. Have you met Victoria back?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
No, I have not. But you don't know this. People
don't you know. It's like one of these things where
this is a she's got such great heart.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And I can't blame people for not giving the public
their heart because we literally we stomp on it, you
know what I mean. So I understand why people don't know.
I'm sure people know now that Charlie XX is funny.
Who is your favorite Hamlet?
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I like Ethan's funny enough, and I did that. I
did it with Ethan Hawk and I did Hamlet.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You I know which Ethan?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know which one? You heard of him?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yes, I'm quite familiarly.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, he just he did such a great job. He
made it was so accessible. I think one of one
of the big challenges with Shakespeare, of course, is like
how does it How is it accessible? Because he's talking
about the same themes that we're dealing with every day.
But it's so dense and difficult for to get into,
you know what I mean, and the learning curve is deep.
(17:30):
Let's just say so the one we did was what
he paired it down and cut the cut the heck
out of the play, and Ethan did a really beautiful job.
Who's your favorite mel Gibson.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, he's so it's so sad, but he's like when
I think of actor, he's a great actor. As a person,
I don't know. He has like a church on his
in his backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Don't we all have? Don't you have a church?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Well, tax I'm paying my taxes.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I'd rather have I have the merchendary on my I
don't want the church to myself.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I mean you to get a deduction? Maybe does he
get an induction for absolutely?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
He does. Absolutely, he does that already pisses me off.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So you're you're on the red carpet, okay, so and
people coming, what's the connect Some people recognize you? Hey,
and they can sometimes something you have to say hey,
and they're like you have something in your brain you're
gonna be I'm gonna say this or I'm gonna is there?
It depends is it the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
It's the moment.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I think something along the lines of I think when
you're on the Red carpet, you have to know that
you're about to meet this person's like character, like when
you're alone in Aruna party, there's no they're no longer.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
That character on there exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So I'm not meeting Stephanie.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm meeting Lady Gaga, you know what I mean, like
this person and I haven't, but I would love to
say that one day.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yes, but like, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
We're going to manifest.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
I feel like when you're on the Red carpet one,
people are very scared of TikTok and the SoundBite, you
know what I mean. So making someone comfortable immediately, you
know what I mean? So saying if it's a girl
saying something like I'm looking for earrings, just like that,
like where do I get those earings? Well that's a
little stupid because she's like my stilence.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Nobody see what you're going You're taking it off of
the moment into something that's like specific, yes and short
and kind of yes, you know easy.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Also, I use what I did as a child.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I'll say something in pop culture, like I'll say like,
did you see Stevie x is posting about Lindsay She
said happy birthday Lindsay. Like, I'll say something and they'll
be like, no, I know, and I'm like, this is
crazy town. This is crazy town. Never let your situation
ship from sixty years. No, you're still thinking about that, yeah,
you know. Like I'll say something like that, or if
I feel like the person is funny, I'll be like,
(19:32):
are we rolling?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Who'd you vote for? And then I'll say just kidding
the heart great spikes.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Now we're warmed up and now they know that I'm insane,
and then we have like a fun back and forth.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
But it depends.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
My favorite person I've ever, ever, ever, ever, ever interviewed
is Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You can see me, but no, no, no, this is conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
McCarthy is my favorite favorite favorite Yeah, and I love
her so much, but she's I love when somebody meets
you halfway, when somebody is like not giving you anything
to worry with I'm like, I'm dressed a little girl.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, just trying my heart out.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Please I have to post this. I am yeah. Like
someone's like, how are you doing today? Good? I guess I'll
go fuck myself.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Thanks so much for help.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Oh my god, amazing. Thanks. Don't be so vulnerable. Let
me throw your line yeah, yes, and.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yes, and which is improv exact? Come on, we're improving here,
give me something I.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Like to sing.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Ah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But sometimes when someone is also on the red carpet
and the person before me, when the public is like
one more question, she's like, I have five more questions.
I'm like, I'm going to get I'm going to get
her in a bad mood now, like I'm going to
get the tired girl. Yes, like, and I know I
can see it happening where the actors like nobody respects me.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I haven't really really thought about what goes into this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
But you're right, Yes, that's why beta blockers are important.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Incredibly important. And vodka I mean, honestly.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Martini Martiniz are back by the way.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
They never left. They never left. But now in the.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What you are do you have? Are you drinker, Martini
drinker or Enjoyer and bibry you like.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I treat martiniz the way I do tattoos, where I
want one and then I have one.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I go, why am I doing this?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
This sucks in the middle, Yes, quite painful.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, I think I am. I am an orange wine girl.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now, oh, here's my thought about orange wine. I had
to take a deep breath. I think there's a place
and time and a place for everything. You think a
pizza parlor, Yeah, well, yes, I do make wine.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You make wine.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, I have a wine business in eastern Washington.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
That's a beautiful place to have a wine business.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
A great place to have a wine and a.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Beautiful place to have a vampire fall in love with you.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Oh interesting? Why is it a beautiful place? It's twilight,
of course. But here's the things to me, and I've been.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
To forks I have okay, but the wine.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
The wine, But the wine is on the other side
of the stage.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Okay, oka, okay, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Well anyway, completely different. But I do love work too,
But it's all about the grapes. Yeah, I love it.
I've been doing this since twenty twenty, two thousand and five.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Apology may, I will not be drinking am Marlow.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, that's oh, that's good.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It affected Merla sales.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
It did, it did, and they're just now coming back
the powerful it's the powerful media cardigans this film. I'm
still waiting whip out the card again. Do we have
a cardigan that we can share?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
No? I would you love nothing more than do a
podcast and a shared card again.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Idea. That would be fun.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
That would be fun.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Okay, I'm down.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But when did you get into wine?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I started in high school.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
There are so many layers to you.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I wasn't a beer drinker. I mean, you know, you
see the error of your ways as you get older.
But wasn't a beer drinker. But wine really appealed and spirits,
which just kind of they just burned the inside of
my mind.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Was like that, Yeah, and I tell my secrets. I
can't handle spirits.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
No, it's too hard. But wine seems right. And I
also liked the idea, you know, it was kind of
the romance of it and sort of the oddness of it.
I was like one of a handful of people who
drank wine in my in my high school, no, and
nobody in my high school. But in college nobody drinks
wine in college. No, no, no, no, it's just yeah affectatious.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
If you're drinking wine in college, like you're going through something.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yes, yeah, I left. I dropped out of school for
that for that one quarter. You said you dropped out
five timesating seriously.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
My mom's like, you can't do this. I'm like, but
I got to get back into what is it? Communications? Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I took I was going to be I took communications.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Would you drop out to do acting?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Kind of? I dropped out because I was not doing
well in school. So I just said no, you know,
and so I dropped out of school. I went to
work at a lumber factory. I cut wood for about
three months, made some money back in my hometown, and
I went to Summerstock. That summer. I had this a
little plan. I said, well kind of, there was no plan. B.
You know what I'm talking about it this is it.
And I went to flat Rock, North Carolina flat Rock Playhouse.
(23:36):
I got the lead role in the one apprentice role
in the one play that did look forward to Angel.
It was like validation. It's like I can't always ask
me I think I can do this, I don't know
how or how it wasn't in my family.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
When you know, when you know, like when they say
like when you know, you know. I feel that way
about work sometimes I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Like, yeah, but trust it? Do you trust it?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, my soulmate or work work?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I trust myself.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I just feel like this is a thing. Sometimes I'm
like when I watch, for example, I love water World.
Water World is one of the best films ever.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Right, because there are films that I love as well, see,
but something about them? Yeah, what is it? Is there
anything about water World specifically that you're like, this is
why I love it? Is it just the idea?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I think it's so.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I mean the opening scene where he like drinks his pea,
I'm like, I'm in. I'm like here here we are,
like me asking my mom what is scurvy? Like it's
just like it's like, why does that man want the
fruit so bad?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
It's like scurvy? And I'm like, what the hell is scurvy?
How much should I be concerned?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, Yeah, you're okay. I'm like, we're at sea level
from Miami, plenty of oranges. You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I'm gonna be fine. There's dam and see everywhere for
eyes to see.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, but I love stories, and I think people don't
want stories anymore. They want to be entertained. That is different.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I think people should we should make with the weirdest
movies possible. They're like, that would never happen in real life.
Oh good thing, it's a fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I obviously I think
it's a really good observation stories.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
People are like, oh, that doesn't even look like New York.
We're watching Mighty morphin Power Rangers. Yeah, who cares if
it doesn't look like Crosby Street the way you remember it,
Like whatever, And so I think we're doing like all
these superhero movies because people are just like they don't
want stories that they don't want They just want to
be like entertained, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
And I'm like, where are the weirdos that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Why is it not? They don't want to connect with something?
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Is there a people don't want to reflect? I think
so much.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's like when my mom is like really busy, she
won't watch TV or movies, Like when she's overwhelmed with work,
she'll just like, I don't know what she does, you
guys on her peloton.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, but she or she'll
read something on her kindle, but she can't like emotionally attach.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yes, just something that sort of calm down or as
you said, detach.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, you know, I'm going to say this tell me.
And so in the times of social media where we
could be.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
The most times of social media, hotail is all this.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I feel like we now have the opportunity to be
the weirdest possible.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Like when I watch like Hackers with Angelina Joli, you
know what I mean, And like there's all these people
that they're dressed like you know, like I think about
the nineties, I grunge, Like this is like the time
to be like our most weird, Like the Fifth Element
is my favorite movie of all time. Like this is
the time for us to be like weirdos. We're going troadwife,
apron blonde hair, blonde hair.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I love you, But I'm just saying. I'm just saying,
like in the way where I'm like clean, clean girl,
Look what are we talking about. We need to shave
our heads, yeah yeah, and go and go wild. We
need to bleach our eyebrows and dye our eyelashes green, Like.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
We need to be as weird as there's so many
things to see, you know, online. I mean, it's just
it's a bombardment of different stuff. I feel like there's
a need for for sort of a here's a linear story.
We're gonna follow these people, We're gonna like go on
this journey together. I just don't feel there's the patience anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
No, there's not.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
But I also am a firm believer of the pendulum
it will swing back.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
As a father of a teen, how do you think
social media has a fit?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I love our podcast, yes, going on social do you think.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Social media is affected him? Because I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
I think it certainly had an impact, right, But on
Callum's side, it's a it's a creative thing as well.
I mean, some of it's just nonsense. Okay, that's fine,
I get it. I mean, you know, remember we're fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen years old. You're like, you know, just Mad magazine,
you know what I mean, just stuff that's just goofy
(27:28):
and silly love Mad magazine magazine. But there's also the
learning side of it. So sometimes he's watching things and
the sort of learning about volcanoes in somewhere or the pyramids, needs.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I could crush her castordable right now because media, you.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Know how to do it. Yeah, exactly. I would not
have known that any other way. You're not going to
go get a book at the library and say how
to cast edible.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No father, like farmer John just did it.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yeah, you can get the four step process.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
This is what you do. Go it. Yeah, you learn
about how people live.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, yeah, it's cool, you know, because you can travel
the world and the mind of people just you know,
right here at the palm of your hand. But I
do feel like that there is there's a story, which
I think is why I enjoy and he enjoys sitting
down and watching you know, we'll watch an episode of
Star Wars or something the best. It's a telling. It's
a story. It's a journey, and it's like we can't
(28:16):
lose that. That's so important and I don't think we will.
Stories are just they're just part of who.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
We are someone.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah, right now, we're like we're someone is creating a
story right now. They just have to live through it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I need AI just stop being so scary though it's
freaking me out. Yeah, it's very very scary.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm like, no one, no one watched Minority Report. I
do feel like AI is getting to a place where
I just don't I want a I want. I fear
that people like your son will feel like they're constantly
being tested to see if they're a good person, like
the good person contests, and that they also are desirable,
but they also don't care.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
But they're also empathetic.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
But they're also very cool and very busy, but they
also have time for their lovemons I social media.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
This is life. If this is don't you remember growing up?
These were all things. It's just that it's accelerated. Yeah,
and it's in their face all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Do you have lifelong friends?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
I do.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
How do you balance career and maintaining your friendships?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I don't, Okay, I was I friends. No, It's weird
because I have my friends from grade school who I
just saw recently. We don't see each other that frequently
when we do get back together for whatever reason. I
was just up in my hometown of Yakama. I was
doing a speech there at the Capitol Theater, like a
little talk at the Capital Theater. A couple of my
friends came up from Portland and one still was in
Yakama and they came to see me and I told
(29:34):
the stories and I shouted out it from the stage
and it was really fun. We share, you know, you
share this history and it's so interesting because I was like,
do I like, I do like to reminisce it's.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
We are such water signs. It makes me sick. If
you could put nossage on a pipeye to smoke it.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, there you go. I mean, it's crazy, right, Oh
my god, I agree. I wouldn't say it exactly like that,
but I agree what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
What's that bench? It's like we were girls together in
the park bench in Central Park. It's like, to my
best friend Susan from Julie, we were girls together. I
could cry right now.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Oh that's really mean too. That's really because it really
is that right. And as I think, honestly, the older
I get, the more I'm like, let me think back
on that and remember those days, because they'll have memories
that that that I don't have, and vice versa. And
we share this and I think it's such an important thing.
I don't do it that much. I wish I did
it more.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, but this is the thing capitalism we have to
worry it's not.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I literally look at people and I'm like, capital, I
can't because I have to pay my rent.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I have to go to right, you gotta go work,
you gotta go to work.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yes, oh yes, I do have a podcast.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm mean listening to your podcast.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I'm getting no.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
No, no, I want to hear. I want to hear.
I want to hear. I want to hear. Okay, how
did you sort of plan I'm gonna talk about this,
talk about this, talk about this.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I do.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
I mean, thank god, the Kardashians always doing something, I
mean without during COVID, I was like, what are what
am I supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right now? Go outside, do something exactly.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I have this podcast because I wanted to be like
before I did social media, I was a receptionist and
I went to this like random audition for to host
my own pop culture show before it was in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I showed up like five hundred people auditioned. I got it,
and that's crazy, I know. I was literally just I
was googling how to transfer call like I like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Poorly, you know what I mean, that's where you were headed?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
And then this I would cry to my mom being
like I'm never going to do anything, like I'm never
going to travel.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
My mom would laugh and I'd be like, what she's like.
Life has a funny way of putting you in the
place you're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Yes, yes, how do I wish we could trust that?
I wish we could trust that, and I can't. You know,
it's very it's impossible until it happens, and you're like, oh, yeah,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I guess it did work out.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
But like like being a receptionist and like not having
any skills, like I was saying before, I would literally
use I was a personality higher, like the face.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Of personality higher, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And I remember just trying to connect with people all
the time because they won't fire me if they like you.
And you know, I found out that people some moile
fire you even though they like you if you looking
mass up.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
They liked me.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I signed a contract and they were offering me health
insurance to this production company for this pop culture show
and it was live every day at twelve thirty. So
my first thing ever in front of a camera was live.
But I knew, I knew I was likable. That's the
only thing I had nothing else. I didn't have experience,
but I knew in my heart that I was likable.
So when I came back and I was like, I
have to quit my job. I got my own show.
(32:23):
They were like, say, you're gonna go work for a competitor.
You have to do these live.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I'm like, no, true, it's real.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
And then that was we I got the job on
in July twenty nineteen. We went live in October, and
then March thirteen, twenty twenty, they were like, yeah, we're going.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
To take a two week break. And obviously, and on
TikTok I was thirty.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I thought that, honestly, I was just going to try
to maintain this small community I've already built with this show.
I had like ten thousand follows on TikTok at this point,
and I thought like, oh, well, oh it's been a month,
so I'll just keep talking.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I'll just keep talking.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
And then people started asking me things like will I
ever survive this breakup or something? And I'm thirty at
the point, I'm like, of course, And I would talk
about that and then people say, what was two thousand
and five? Like Tom Cruise jumping on the couch right
tough lot Kanye West.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Business leap to the front of the mine. But yeah,
I understand that has.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
To be on the wiki.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Something I wanted to get back to my receptionist roots
were like I just wanted the girls to listen to
something on the way to work and feel like I
miss it. I do. I don't miss being a receptionist,
but I do miss like, I guess, nostalgia of getting
on the train, like going to work, seeing the front,
the security guard at the front, doing the id thing
(33:38):
coming in. Yes, the community of it, you know, because
all day long I am literally looking at a reflection
of myself and talking and hoping that people hear me
or that it does well, you know what I mean.
I do I miss like or when I don't believe
in like humanity anymore, I get like I see like
a teenager, like open the door for a pregnant lady,
and I'm like, we're still here. So people are so
(34:00):
good And when you're filming tiktoks alone in your in
your house, sometimes you can forget that there is like
goodness in the world.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I'm just starting this journey, right, and there's lots of
things pop culture, social media, things that I do not understand.
So I'm just going to put it out there and say, Okay,
I need some I need some help, I need some
education on this, and I'd like to ask you some
questions about some things.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
God, I hope I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
No, it's not even quiz. It's just like you're gonna
know everything. Okay, I don't know it. Okay, So I'm
very So that's what I'm laying myself bare here. Lives
in Jos probably don't recognize me in my outfit because
I'm wearing a beanie cap with a propeller the traditional
and the suspenders and a red bow tie and teffe
(34:44):
is very fetching.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
How could you prove your kyle right now?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh, let's see my social Security number? Oh that was
so close. That was so close.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I'm wearing a button beautiful, gorgeous, but just for people.
Can't say headtoel.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Exactly. I'm wearing nothing at all.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Nothing in the nude. Yes, I'm in the nude in
a Tom Fourth song. No I'm kidding, I am. I'm
in a gorgeous bib of a shirt with a pink
tie and I've got my glass.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I look like a beauty school dropout.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yes you. So we're back and we're gonna do this
segment that I designed just for you. This is called
teach Me Teffy. Teach Me Tiffy, where I get vulnerable
and ask about some trends that I don't quite understand.
(35:40):
Educate me on some of these. Okay, ask away, ask away,
you have a you have a whiteboard. That's what I'm
looking for, a diarrase marker. Okay. Question one, why do
people shay I'm in my blank era? And do people
really need so many eras?
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I think it's in order.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
So blank era, let's say right now, I'm in my
Tabby like I love Tabby's. Right now, I'm in my
Tabby era, or like I'm in my sci fi era,
or I'm in my maybe I would say my receptionist era.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
But also it emphasizes that nothing is definitive, that things
will change. It is a way to take control of
you know what I mean, the timeline happening. So when
someone says like, I'm just really in my lover girl
era right now, a person's looking for somebody to love.
But that may change the messandry era is on her way.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Okay, I understood, understood, okay, very good and eras can change.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
By the drop of a hat or the cut of
a bang, a conversation.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
At the cut of the bang, We're gonna have to
go to that era.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Horrifying.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
I like literally watched a teenage dream with Katy Perry,
that music video chain Bank.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So I did it?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
How stupid could you do? I look nothing like Katy?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
You tried it?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I did. I was brave.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
That's I mean, you gotta try, you get something, you
get points for that. I was in my brave girl
hera Okay, I get it. What and who is de Lulu?
I kind of know this, but go ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
De Lulu is a little person that lives inside of us.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
All okay.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So when I was little, okay, I've read this book
that said there's a little man that lives in your
mouth and he can only breathe when you say please
and thank you. As a reminder to children, Delulu is
a is the person is delusional. It's delusions, right, And
it's this little man that lives in your brain stem
and tells you they do like you. In fact, they
(37:35):
haven't texted you, not because they don't like you.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's because they like you too much. Okay, so sometimes
and they protect us. This de Lulu man protects us.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Okay, sometimes it does lead to a wellness check because
he protects.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Us so much, so much.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
So for example, let's say you tell me I really
want Baywatch to come back so I can finally.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Be how did you know?
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I know? I see in your eyes David, yes that twinkle? Yes, right,
And you're like, that should be me. I should be
in that red bathing suit, and I'd be like, you
know what, his the Lulu, but.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
It just might happen, just might happen. That was good.
I didn't expect that answer.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Three why do people post screenshots from their notes app
on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Some of us are writing poetry, some of us never
thought that. Well, sometimes it won It can be an
apology Sorry I said.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
That, Oh keep my job.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That can be one, Okay, that's apolongy you know what
I mean, Like please, please please Amazon, don't be scared
of me. I'm saying sorry, you know what I mean, like,
give me a job, right, And then two it can
be to show maybe the how expansive girlhood could be.
Like one note app can be please text like text
mom in the morning, get oranges, toilet paper.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The next can be I did everything for you. How
could you do this too?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Or like you practice your text. I sometimes if I
have to confront someone, I'll put it in my notes
at you know what I mean. And then sometimes I've
had two wines on a fall evening and I have
things to say. Yes, you know what I mean, babbling
brook of poetry, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yes, And that goes on the notes too.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Yes, but it shows like how there's so many layers
and everybody has a little girlhood in them.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
You know, right, we've got to do do Lulu.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
We've got the grounded man, and we've also got the girlhood,
girl in your heads.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Okay. I always thought it. I mean I thought maybe
people do it because they say, look how busy I am,
Look what I can do. These are my notes. This
is what I'm going to accomplish today.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I think, Yeah, people do care how busy we are.
They do care.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
But I love I love your answer this so much.
What is a canon event?
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Climax?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
This is a okay, so a cannon event for example, right,
has your son had a romantic crush already?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yes, So having a crush on the popular girl who's
dating the quarterback. That's a canon event for every teenager.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You know what I mean? A canon event is oh
my god.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
A big canon event is when a girl, a girl
and a boy who are a couple in high school
say they're going to stay together through college and they're
long distance. That is a canon event in every young
girl's life.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I feel, Okay, so does it mean it's gonna come?
Speaker 2 (40:15):
You cannot interfere with the canon event?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay, it's just yes.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
It's also like where's that movie where you go back
at time? But oh, like back to the future. You
cannot interfere you know what I mean? It like makes
you who you are? Yes, Like if I told you like.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I'm gonna so it's something for the future or something
already happened.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Something that's happening, but you cannot interfere with it.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Where it is everybody has gone through this, Like it's
when my mom was like, you have to go through
your first heartbreak. I wish I could ticket for you
from you, but this is like it happens to everyone,
Like watching your child be sad is so horrible, But
it is a canon event.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
In their life.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Okay, you know what I mean. It's an art of
exactly should I join the brain rot community? Am I
the brain rot community?
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Well?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
You are part of the brain rock community because Bratt
became part Anything that becomes becomes part of pop culture lexicon,
they consider it brain rot. So is there a TikTok
sound a sounder trend right now that you're obsessed with
that you think of? Like for me, sometimes I think
of like, give me fourteen of them right now, Like
I think about that all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
That's brain rot, brain rot.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, I've just started only the six seventh thing, but
but I think that's.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Seven is crazy. But you know what it is? Eighties
brain rot? Where's the beef?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
That's brain Oh my god. This happens to me all
the time. Yes, things come and we've actually during the podcast,
we've we've thrown stuff out there all the time that
sticks because of that with that.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Showdown father brain Rot, toot father godfather, godfather brain Yeah,
you come to me on the day of my daughter's BBS.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
You come to me. I must I'm going to grant
you wish. It may never come to happen one day,
I may you know, I'm getting it. I'm getting it.
I might get an A in this. Maybe let's I
think you're on your way. Okay, I get a grade.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
You get a grade.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
If people in my comments are calling me mother, is
that a good thing? This is good because I really
feel like I'm asking the right person in these questions,
because you really know, because these are answers that I'm
not expecting, and they're really in depth and you really thought.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Through these are people calling me mother in your comment
section at times? Have you seen them.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Performing me mother in my comments section?
Speaker 3 (42:26):
That is very positive, But it's also like like Beyonce
is mother, like that is mother? You know, Like I
feel like, you know what anybody that's going through like
their David you know what I mean, Like the direction
like they're going through like their David era, you know,
and they're lulu enough to believe that they could be
a director of that.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
They are watching a lot of your films.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
And your mother. Yeah, okay, so kind of.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Like David would also be mother, yeah, upper echelon, yes,
But like anybody can be mother, even if for a moment,
like you can.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I can see Jessica Chestain. I'm always trying to see
chest right.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I can see her in a red carpet and she
looks amazing. She's always wearing like emerald green because she
knows it works, and like in her Gucci fit. I
can comment and caps mother like everything, you know what
I mean. I would love to know if there are
people saying that your mother or like one of your
caps should be like, I'm so mother right now.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Okay, that's good. It gets baby girl a lot too,
which I feel like, is.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I do feel your baby girl? Codd ya do you
think I'm babygirl? Do I give baby girl?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Do I give mother?
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah? Oh that's tough because based upon what I'm learning,
I feel like mother you are because you so.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Represent or cousin. I give cousin yeah maybe yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, but baby girl, I mean you are baby girl
because there's so this is a tough difference. This is
really a challenge to sort of define these things.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like baby girl. Like people say Jacob Belordi's baby girl.
He's just like so like, yeah, yeah, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Like, but also like but tim Timothy Salame is not
baby girl, that's mother.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah yeah so leo oh see this is tricky. I
wish you really at home. There's there's a lot of thinking.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
There's a lot yes, Basketball diaries, Leo Titanic, Leo baby Girl.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Okay, I see, yes, you have to divide it into era.
We're back to era. Look at this starting to speak
to Lu.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
You're limitless.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
Good lord, my god, I can see it's through my hand.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
My mind is like a sponge.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Oh my lord. Okay. Lastly, is it cool when actors
become podcasters?
Speaker 3 (44:32):
Shakespeare said life is but a stage? Right, Yes, yes,
I think it's so mother of you to be in
your podcast era, because only like a du Lulu baby
Girl would be like, I'm going to create my own stage.
Speaker 4 (44:46):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
And that's brain rock.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
And that's brain rock, ladies and gentlemen, that's taffy.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
What a plus.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
That's beautiful. Welcome. It's actually a with a little.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Across, you know, as a college dropout. Five times, I'm
giving you an a.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
God, I'm honored, thank you so very much. I feel
like really great. I feel like we connected on so
many levels. And I'm really I'm jazz, So tell me,
just give me what's happening with you? What I am?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
I have a column with the cut called ass Tuffy.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yes, which I read. This is great, thank you so much. Yep.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And then I have a podcast with Box called Tevy Talks,
and I have social media where I also show face
and I'm.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Mother there as well.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Okay, this is amazing, and.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Tello Taffy, you can catch me at Hello Teffy or
in your.
Speaker 1 (45:40):
Dreams beautiful beautiful. One quick question? Have you ever have
you had your mom on or thought about that or
that so scary?
Speaker 3 (45:48):
I mean that would be well, you know when your
parents are on you turn fifteen ye, which is not
like my favorite era of self, you know, but maybe,
but what if they giver what if it's like then
MJ talks and ask mj' also take my job?
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah yeah, that's that's a concern. That's a worry, Like
damn they like her more than me.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we don't know the job market. There's
not enough influences out there.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
No, you you're at the very top. All right, folks,
were done. That's why we have confidence. Hey what are
we even doing?
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran podcast network,
hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created and produced by
Full Picture productionists Yay, featuring music by Yata and artwork
by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast, please
visit our Instagram and TikTok at wa w ed with Kyle.
(46:40):
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