On today’s MKD, we start the week off discussing disturbing images of Jim Thornton engaging in a pedophile chatroom, a man who used a robot vacuum to record his wife having an affair, an attempted kidnapping on the NYC subway, a boy circumcised by his bullies, and Dyson’s new AI camera toothbrush.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hi, everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about people looking at inappropriate material
on their devices while on an airplane. Then we have
a really unusual case of a man who thought of
a very unconventional way to catch his wife cheating. And
now he is being charged with a crime. So we'll
(00:22):
get into exactly what he did. Another terrifying story out
of New York City where a woman tried to kidnap
a child from inside of a subway station, like a
good old fashioned kidnapping. Then we have a really horrific
yet bizarre bullying incident where an 11 year old boy,
you know, when you think of bullying, he wasn't beat up.
(00:44):
He wasn't given a wedgie. No, he was pulled into
a bathroom and these kids circumcised him. Yes, circumcised him.
Then we'll finish up with a lighter topic discussing these
viral $ 500 toothbrushes. We'll finish up with your comments, questions,
and emails, all that and more on today's episode. Let's
(01:05):
get started with this story of looking at inappropriate things
on airplanes.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, I really can't believe this story is not
blowing up more. This to me is one of the
more disturbing things we've covered in the last couple of years.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You know what's funny? When I thought about this story
and it was like, you'll discuss exactly what happened, but
you're on the plane and you're thinking other people that
are sitting right behind you could see every single thing.
They could see what movie you're watching or whatever you
have on your laptop. And do you remember when we
(01:39):
were flying to Denver for CrimeCon last year? I was like,
fixing up my lecture. And, and then I was concerned
because I was like, Oh my God, some of these
pictures are so graphic. And the people sitting behind me, like,
don't want to see a dead decomposing body on my
screen right now. And they might be questioning, like, what
(01:59):
is this girl doing? And also just, you, you don't
really want people filming you. So if you're on, you know,
paying your bills or anything, you just have to be
careful because you're It is very easy to see what
someone's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, for sure. I mean, this is absolutely unacceptable. So
what we're talking about is Wheel of Fortune announcer Jim Thornton.
So last week, the news broke originally that he was
just suspended amid allegations from Wheel of Fortune. And they
didn't really elaborate exactly what that was yet. So I
saw that and I was thinking like, okay, we're seeing
(02:34):
a lot in Hollywood that there's sexual misconduct allegations, and
I'm assuming that, and not really understanding what is going
to be revealed days later. So now it's coming out
that he was on this flight, and this woman looked
over at his screen and saw he was in a
chat room, and I don't even know if I looked
over if I would have realized what was going on.
(02:55):
Because it was pretty... I mean, I'm kind of blind,
so I don't even know if I would have been able...
To see what was going on. But basically she saw
he was in this pedophile chat room. And I know
that these chat rooms exist. But seeing a screenshot of it.
And seeing exactly the way the conversation was going down.
Made me sick to my stomach. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I was thinking the same thing. Because I'm not. I
wouldn't consider myself to be a nosy person.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
If I looked over. And there wasn't something that was
blatantly obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Like.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Pornography that was just in my face or something I
I wouldn't take the time to really try to figure
out what was happening which because the picture that was
released looks like it was a person that wasn't sitting
right next to them right it was kind of like
across an aisle or something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
From the vantage point it looks like it was the
row behind him across the aisle so like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah so so in my opinion She didn't see that
on his screen. She took a picture of it and
zoomed in on it to see what he was looking at.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
She had to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It was too far away. Because there's no way that
you could see that far away, right? And I feel
like I could see kind of okay with my glasses on,
but I just really wouldn't be able to read someone's
text from that far away. So that's where I would
lose it because I would never do that because I'm
just not that nosy. But people do that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I understand. I understand.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So, and imagine her shock that she did that and
zoomed in and then started reading all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Do you think she was just like, do you think
she recognized him and was just taking a picture of
him to say like, oh, look, I saw the guy
on the plane and then she realized it? Because I'm like,
why would you just take a picture of somebody's computer
screen and then zoom in on it?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, because people are nosy.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean, I'm nosy, but I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I 100% think that that's exactly how it went down.
Let me just entertain myself right now and read what
this person's writing.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All right. So let me read to you some of
the messages that were on. I don't want to give
away even the URL for this because I don't want
other people going on it. If, God forbid, anybody listens
that's interested in this type of thing, I don't even
want them to have access to this. But basically, what
was overread on the screen and what are in images
that are being published in news media? With him in it. Like,
(05:25):
it's him on the computer. You could see the URL,
which is the pedophile chat room. And then you could
proceed to see the chat. So some of the disturbing
messages were... Somebody said, couple of cute boys and a
hot little girl. Referring to a restaurant with underage kids.
Somebody said, all you could eat, boyfay. And then there
was mentions of, quote, CP throughout. Which, obviously, if you
(05:47):
read the context, means child porn. Which is so disgusting.
So then, he was typing... under this username, like Nicholas something, right?
And his messages were, well, it's crazy doing the service.
I don't want to say it. It's crazy doing the
service from the sky, which all of the pedophiles in
(06:08):
the chat are like, what if somebody sees you? Blah, blah, blah.
And he's like, no, it's fine. I'll just hide it.
Which there were pictures of him later, like Googling how
to get rid of his search history or something. And
then another disgusting message he sent was, Saunters to the
bathroom for a quick wank on the 737. Ew. This
is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It really is disgusting. And so, of course, like, these
images got sold to TMZ, apparently. And the internet is
doing what it does, which is finding out every single
detail about this guy. And so they search his... So
he has a weird username that's like... What is it?
Like Nicholas.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It was like Nicholas B.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah. It's like a number or something. It's not his
name and a bunch of numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So they actually found that username because it it's definitely
like not a randomly assigned thing.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's it's something he uses. It's like it would be
really unusual for another Web site to have a user
with the same exact random name. Right. Yeah. And they
found that name on other child porn Web sites. Um, and,
and also on one of those things that he had
posted a picture of himself when he was a little
(07:26):
kid wearing like a pair of shorts and no shirt,
like he's, he's like topless as a child. And it said,
it was labeled and said, come if you can, but
it was spelled like C O M E. If you can, like,
what else could that possibly mean? So he was like
uploading a picture of himself as a child and, To
(07:47):
a child porn website. And writing come as you can.
If you can. Like.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's so big.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Like what.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What other reason would be. For him to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Except.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh of course. His publicist said. Did you.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right. It's not even the publicist. His lawyer. Is like.
First of all. He has been really active in a
suicide prevention hotline. And somebody on that hotline. Which had
a similar name. sent him the link to this one
and he didn't realize what it was and immediately left.
You're wrong because the woman taking the pictures, according to
(08:26):
the timestamps, it looks like he was in the pedophile
chat room for 57 minutes. So if you realize what
it was, why are you in it for almost an hour,
let alone engaging in conversation with other pedophiles? B, what else?
She said something else so ridiculous. The lawyer added that
the chat is not unlawful. There is no unlawful child
(08:46):
pornography or other pedophile pedophilic content. And my client never viewed,
downloaded or consumed any child pornography, whether on that commercial
flight in May or at any other time. Yeah, I'm
not really convinced.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, it doesn't matter if he did, because like that's
up to him and the law or whatever. But like
the bottom line is, is that he is the voice
of Wheel of Fortune and I'm sorry, like, I don't
care if he never did it. I just definitely don't
want to be hearing from someone that like, it's like
the difference between cheating on your wife and being in
(09:21):
a chat room with and talking dirty to a person, right? Like,
it's still not right. It's not as bad, I guess
you would say, but like, you're talking dirty about child porn,
and you're going in the bathroom of the airplane and
beating off like, I still think that I'm not a
fan of you. You're a disgusting person.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Also, when he said like he was like crazy doing
this website on a plane. So clearly he was like
a regular of the website. Because why else would you
say that? And then the people that were freaking out
if somebody saw him were referencing another case of a
man getting caught for watching child pornography on an airplane.
So like there. is nothing to confuse us with so
(10:02):
basically this woman took all these pictures and videos of
him flagged down a flight attendant in the back showed
the flight attendant who then told the pilot and then
when the plane landed law enforcement met him at the.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Gate well i mean she had proof And you could
go on the back of the plane and see one
of the flight attendants and be like, what do you
think about this? Like, it is really, really disturbing and upsetting.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What would you even do? Like, if you saw somebody
do it? Like, I don't know, because it's like he
wasn't blatantly watching it, but he's also engaging in something illegal. Like,
to me, that's bullshit what the lawyer said. Engaging in
a pedophile chat room should be just as illegal as
everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Listen, it's also just, like, such bullshit. Like, how many
times have you come across, like, anybody send you links
all the time? I get links sent to me all
the time on Instagram and this and that. Like, nobody
ever send you a link by accident or intentionally of
(11:09):
child porn.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I'm sure it's happened to people in the past, but, like, he.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That you've clicked on it and been like, oh, my God,
I shouldn't be here. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I shouldn't be here 57 minutes later. Like, it's
just such bullshit. I'm sorry. So, of course, they said
he was questioned and he was released. That doesn't mean anything.
And he was suspended pending an investigation and then clearly...
The show saw that he was guilty based on the picture.
I actually wonder if they would have fired him if
(11:40):
the pictures of him with the chat next to each
other weren't published on TMZ. Oh, no, they probably would
have denied it after that. So so he is definitely
out now. He's fired. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Which means it's true. Come on.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I mean, come on. This is absolutely ridiculous. It really is.
I don't know. And it's like, we talk about this
stuff all the time. I know these chat rooms exist,
but like seeing it in action and how casually they
talk about one of the most heinous crimes in the
world is so unbelievable to me. And it's one of
those things we're always saying, like, how did these people
even get connected? Like, how did he discover this chat?
(12:19):
How did he even know to go to this website?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's because the person on the suicide hotline sent it
to him.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bullshit.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
He had no idea it existed.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
A good lawyer.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And he so happened to have a picture of himself.
He's old too, right? Isn't he like 60-something, right?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Based on appearance, he looks like late 50s, early 60s.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, so he just so happens to have a picture
of himself as a child that he's uploading.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, you can't bullshit internet sleuths because they will find everything.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They also found, well, I said that
they found his username on another one of these sites too.
And this has been like two days. Just give it
a minute and they're going to find everything about him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This is why they're like, never go on reality TV
if you have one skeleton in your closet because these
people will find everything about you. So never. All right.
So a man has been jailed for secretly recording his
wife having an affair with their robot vacuum.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah. And I feel like maybe at some point, we've
talked about this, that those things can, they record people, right?
Like I didn't even, I don't really understand why a
vacuum has to have the ability to record anything. I,
I guess like what we talked about before, maybe this
was a cut story.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't even remember if we did it is that
they have the ability to detect motion around them. So
I've never heard of them. I can see if they
maybe have a camera feature. for the vacuum purposes for cleaning,
but I don't know why you would be able to
access it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I don't... I really... I could see, like, obviously, like,
it needs to have some kind of sense of where
to go. I just don't really... I really don't understand, like,
what other purpose it would be to, like, actually record
something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, this story has layers, of course. So, this guy
bought the robot vacuum... And while he was away, he
was planning to use it to talk to his wife
through the vacuum. So he initially activates it and then
suddenly sees her naked with the man she's having an
affair with. So then decides he's going to record them
having the affair. So then he used that footage to
(14:33):
file a civil lawsuit against them, claiming they infringed on
his marital rights. He won and they had to pay
him 500,000 Taiwan dollars, which is about 15,700 US dollars.
And then the wife flipped it on him and was
able to use the footage to file a criminal complaint
against him saying that she was videoed against her consent,
(14:54):
without her consent. And now he's been sentenced to five
months in jail.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So what was the fine in U.S.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Dollars? Like $ 15, 700 U.S. dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you get fined $ 15, 000 for having an affair?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, in Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I mean, it's kind of crazy, but I think it's,
You could say, I would personally think that the worst
of the crimes was the cheating, not the recording, especially
because like you were recording someone without their consent, but
you caught them doing something. So I feel like it's
kind of a wash and now he has to go
to prison for five months. The change, the difference, how
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we live in this world is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Like, This guy on the airplane in America is talking
about having sex with children, and he won't even get anything.
I mean, he lost his job, but he's fine. I'm
sure he'll be back in a year doing something else
or something. And then this guy, he's just at home.
(16:01):
He's just an innocent guy. He's kind of suspicious. His
wife's been acting weird. And records her and finds out
that she's cheating and he gets put in prison for
five months. Like, I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't understand either. I mean, maybe, like, I'm so
interested by the fine for having an affair. So, like,
maybe we need to implement that in the United States
as well as, like, in the UK, which is if
you sue somebody and you lose, you have to pay
their legal bills because the lawsuits in this country are
getting out of control.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, they really are.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
All right. New York City police are searching for a
woman who tried to kidnap a six-year-old at the Inwood
207 Street train station. So this happened back on July 29th.
They're saying this little girl was with her mother. The
mother was carrying her younger brother and had the little
girl next to her side. And as the mom was
going to swipe her card on the turnstile, the girl
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starts screaming, mom, mom, mom. And literally this older woman
is like trying to yank the girl by her arm
and go through the turnstile, which Thankfully, this woman's card
wasn't going through, so she wasn't able to get past
the gate. Otherwise, she could have taken the kid and
run off and gotten onto a train and God knows
where they would have went.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, it is. It's just really, really. I mean, this
is that's why I said in the opening, like this
is a good old fashioned kidnapping. You don't hear about
stuff like this this often. It's not a baby. It's
not some like weird person that's pretending to be pregnant,
going to a hospital and stealing a baby out of
a nursery. It's like really, really a bizarre situation that
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in broad daylight like that. I mean, obviously like all
of the stories that have been happening in New York
City over the past couple weeks alone are just, there's
just clearly people who are mentally ill. So maybe it
wasn't like a legitimately thought out kidnapping, but more of
just like a crazy person that just was like, you know,
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There's some crazy people that push people off of a platform.
This is like, oh, I'm just going to grab this
kid and terrorize these people. I actually hope it was
more of that than a person that was like, I'm
going to go steal a kid today and thought it
out and tried to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, you just never know. And like, I was
talking to my mom just about like, even when I
go out to the store with the baby, how vulnerable
I feel in the parking lot. Cause you know, it
just takes a couple of seconds to either get your
kid in the car seat or like snapped her car
seat back in. And she was like telling me when
you guys were little, she used to jam you all
in the back seat and then she'd get in and
lock the door and then buckle you.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Up.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like I kind of understand that feeling though. You are
so vulnerable in public like that. Like this mom is
just like holding a kid and trying to go through
the thing and her other kids literally right next to her.
And this woman is just trying to kidnap her in
broad daylight. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, and it's scary because if her ticket actually worked
and she was able to get through, like what would
have happened?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, exactly. Like I think with all the surveillance, which
I don't even know how long that would have taken.
I think with all the surveillance at all the train stops,
They could have probably figured out where the lady got
on and got off, etc. But like, how long would
that have taken? Would they have been able to get
the girl quickly? You just don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like, yeah, I mean, it is. It's really scary because
if you saw a woman carrying a kid that was
screaming and carrying on, especially like a five or a
six year old, you would just be like, oh, they're
just having a temper tantrum or something. You wouldn't even
be like, wait, this is suspicious. Like, why is this
kid freaking out like that?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You know, like. Like, do we have to.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I mean, you see it sometimes and you're just kind
of like, oh, that person can't control their kid. You
wouldn't be thinking that they were kidnapped.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Totally. And it's like, do we need to start teaching
kids like to scream like this isn't my mom? Like,
what if you saw a little kid? screaming, this isn't
my parent. And they were dragging the kid, you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Know, like in New York, no one would do anything.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, exactly. There used to be that show. I think
it was called, what would you do? And they would
do scenarios. Like it probably got canceled for being way
too controversial. Yeah, it was, it was good social experiment
to see how people, Would react in these situations. Because
it is really really bad. I don't know. Was it
a crazy person. That just didn't know what they were doing.
(20:17):
Were they trying to traffic this kid. This is so terrifying.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I just actually saw a video like that. On I
guess someone. Is you know. There's always like a person
on social media. That that's their thing. They like do
that what would you do situation. And they would like.
Have a little kid. sitting on a bench and like
some guy like asking her questions like oh where do
(20:44):
you live oh like i have something in my car
like pretending to like lure her yeah and and like
a person that doesn't know anything is sitting on the
bench next to them and and you know the whole
thing's set up but the person on the bench like
to see how they would react like would they jump
in if they saw a person like trying to you
know talk to a child inappropriately or something and Most
(21:08):
of the time, the couple videos that I saw, like,
it would even be, like, a younger guy, like, a
20-year-old guy or something that you would think is, like,
really sitting there keeping to himself. And he would just
be like, yo, man, do you know that girl? Don't
talk to that kid. Like, it was really, like, interesting
to see that and, like, kind of restore your faith
in humanity a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, it really does. Because I would say, like, I
think today most people are just like, I don't want
to get involved. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I mean, and I understand that.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I understand that too, but it's, you know, I always
talk about this too, is like a couple of years ago,
we were on the boardwalk in the morning, just getting breakfast.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And I just saw this two year old wandering around
like no parent in sight.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And I'm just like, I am having a heart attack
about that, you know? And then everybody with me is like,
that's not your business. And I'm like, okay, but you
would understand. Like I didn't have a baby yet, but
I had just been around the girls being young, you know?
And I'm like, I think people without kids don't realize it.
And the kid's mom was, around but still inappropriately far
away for the kid's age but like still it was
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making me deeply uncomfortable that this kid was just running around.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Alone I know I hate when I see a little
kid upset like like when because they're really scared and
upset if they're you know if they lost their parent
or something um that just reminds me of the time
that I was at a hair salon on Frankfurt Ave
in Philly and Lucia I was getting my hair washed
and I had the girls with me and Lucia was
like three or four. And she just like, when I
(22:37):
was getting my hair washed, she like bolted out the
front door of the salon.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And I'm like all of the adults in the salon.
And then she ran like halfway down Frankfurt Ave. Like,
you know what I mean? It was so crazy. And
I ran outside and it was a packed street, you know,
cause it's like busy there. There's like the law column
and stuff there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's always busy right there.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And I just wanted to yell at everybody on the
street and be like, you fucking assholes. Like you didn't
see that there's a three-year-old running up the street by themselves.
Like not one person was like, hey, let me like
stop this kid. She was like bolting into the street.
It was so ridiculous. I know it's my fault that
I wasn't like holding her and watching her and didn't
(23:23):
have a leash on her. But like all the people
in the salon and everything, like not one person, I
was just like, Did someone open the door for her?
Could she even reach the handle? It just was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
At the end of the day, it is your fault.
But then you think about... Exactly. It's not like the
door was propped open on a nice day. And there
was two doors. There was a door into the building
and a door into the salon, which means two adults
opened the door. She couldn't have opened those doors. They
were heavy.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I just thought it was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Come on, people.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It takes a community. Like... You're supposed to be looking
out for situations like that. And I just was like,
all these people suck. I mean, maybe it's just because
the population is just like a bunch of like younger
hipsters that like don't have kids and they don't, they
just think it's totally normal for like a three-year-old to
be walking up the street. But you know.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's what I'm saying. I think it's maybe a situation
that if you have young kids in your family or
you're a parent yourself, you could understand like wanting to
help a child that's unattended. But If you're not, you're
just like, this isn't my business. And I'm like, OK,
but how many people's business is it not until something
bad happens? You know, even if let's not even say
it's a human child, like let's say it's a dog.
(24:37):
If you see like a dog that's running up a
busy street and might run into the street and get
hit by a car, like wouldn't you try to like.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Be like, look around, like, where's the owner? Where's the
person in charge of this dog? Oh my God, this
dog's going to run in the street and get hit
by a car. Or are you just going to let
it happen and be like, not my problem.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
There is a dog on the street behind me that
literally is on the, it must bolt when they open
the door. Because I always see, it's like a little
white dog and I always see it running up the street.
And then like two minutes later, I see the family running.
running after it up the street like once a week
at least.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well at least it's not like random pitbulls like in
my neighborhood no that's that's always fun.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But it's like outrage it's seriously once a week that
i see somebody in the family chasing after this thing
And I'm just like, what do you do in that
case if you have a dog that's just running like that?
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The same thing you do when you have a child
like that. You just put them on a leash.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh my God. I used to be so against the
child leashes, but then like Lubert really needed one.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I was until like that. I don't know what was
up with Lubert in that period of time of her life,
but she just, like I that ruined my life when
that happened and I always had the kids like I
tried to carry on my normal life and just have
them with me all the time but she tried to
do it once too when we were walking to the
zoo because when you go to the zoo you're in
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the middle of the city and you have to park
like a block away and walk but there's like busy
streets that she would just like like let go of
my hand and bolt like it was so crazy and
I'm just like I don't understand like what you're doing
right now. Do you want to die? Like, but, but yeah.
And I was just like, I don't care if everybody
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sits there and looks at me and judges me, like whatever.
Like I, I rather people think that I'm a total
crazy person than have a dead child. Nope.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
For sure. All right. South African police have opened an
investigation after an 11 year old boy was circumcised by
four bullies in the school bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
This is like, again, just talking about living in different
areas of the world, how much different life is for people.
So apparently they do this. They do have these like
initiation ceremonies in certain cultures where, I mean, this definitely
wasn't it. But you would even say like if you
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went up to an average 11-year-old boy in America today
and asked them if they would know how to perform
a circumcision, most of them probably wouldn't even know that
they even had one or know what it even entailed.
So like, that was my first question is like, how
do these kids even know how to do that? Because
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it is a, it's a procedure that has to be
done in a certain kind of way for it to
be done correctly and not just you know, go and
amputate the penis. And apparently like they did it semi-correctly.
Like when they looked at the wound, they said, oh,
this is this, the way that they did it is
similar to how they perform some of these rituals. And
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it's just to like, you know, enter a boy into manhood.
But these are things that are like ceremonies that are
done where like a surgeon performs a circumcision and stuff.
So The reason I'm saying that is that there's just
a possibility that these children have been exposed to this
throughout their life, so they kind of know what something
like that would look like. But to think that now
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you're going to go do this with a knife in
school to bully a child and to think that you're
going to put your hands on a child's genitals like
that and mutilate their genitals, it's just it's just so
like beyond anything that I would think any child would
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ever do.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, and it said some of the tools recovered
were rusty spears, scissors, razor blades, and crudely made cutting tools.
So it's like, clearly this wasn't sanitary at all.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
These children like tied this kid down, held his arms
and legs of four children. And then one of them
took his foreskin, tied it with a ribbon and cut
it off.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like in the school bathroom.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
In the school bathroom.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So the worst part was, is they, I mean, that
was obviously the worst part, but like following up on that,
they then threatened him if he were to tell anybody.
So he just kind of like limped out of the
bathroom and was too scared to tell the teacher. He
went home and was acting weird. The mom asked why
he was walking weird, which he played off as being
like a new trend of how kids are walking around,
which is so sad. And then after a couple of days,
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He finally couldn't get out of bed and then told
the mom exactly what happened. Like, this is horrific.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah. And I mean, he could have had such severe
complications like bleeding, infection. I he could even get an
infection so bad or just have like a loss of
blood that he could have had necrosis and would have
required an amputation like a penile amputation that which would
have been terrible and I mean hopefully he ends up
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healing okay from this and just it's just so awful
like it's It's beyond a sexual assault, you know? I
just don't even know how to describe it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I don't know either. And this is, like, I wouldn't even,
I think using the term bully in this case is just, like,
a little too loose. I mean, these people mutilated him.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
This isn't like they, like, pushed him in a locker.
The other people that did it are kids, too. Like,
they don't even, you know, when you're 11, it's like
you're starting to recognize right from wrong and things like that.
But you're still, your brain is just, like, not to
be held as as an adult that you're thinking straight
i mean we say this all the time when kids
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when kids commit crimes on this level i don't like
it's it's like some some like i don't even know
like dexter shit or something just like the the kids
like a sociopath in some kind of way in my
opinion right it just is an early sign of it
it's like when you hear um people that that tend
to have homicidal you know tendencies when they get older
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like not just like a person that shoots someone in
the street for something, but like people that are serial
killers and things like that. Like they, you always look
back at their history and they like did weird shit
with animals or killed animals or something.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And like, I think the quote unquote bullies were a
little older, like 13 years old. And I was just
listening to something earlier about an update with Kim Zolciak's son, right?
Cause he's 15 and they said he's going to be
charged as an adult. But I think in Georgia law,
if the crime is committed between ages 13 to 17,
then they get charged as an adult. So they're considering
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there that 13 years old is old enough to recognize
that right from wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, and I do agree with that. I mean, if
they were 11, I just think that there's a huge
difference between even 11, 10, 11, and 13. Yeah, for sure.
And there's just.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
A huge.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Maturing and stuff, but I mean, like, I think that
they should still get tried. It's just, as an adult, like,
because then you're saying, like, okay, if a 13-year-old did this,
it's the same as if a 27-year-old did it. I
just don't, I don't see that that's equivalent. But, I mean,
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something has to be done for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, I think it just depends on the severity of
the crime. Yeah. Like, If what happened in Kim Zolciak's
son's case, Croy Beerman Jr., is true, because right now
there are allegations and it's alleged, if that turns out
to be true and he's convicted, I mean, that's a
pretty horrific crime for somebody so young. And the same
in this case. Mutilating and circumcising somebody is a pretty
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horrific crime for 13-year-olds to be committing.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, and they definitely need to... I mean, I feel
like there was a rule for a while that was
just like, you're under 18, you're not going to get
in trouble. And it's like, they see that clearly if
you circumcise a child, obviously, even if you're in sixth
or seventh grade, when you do something like that, you
have to really have some kind of intense intervention in
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order for that kid to have any kind of chance
of not growing up to be a complete psychopath. And
the same could be said about Kim Zolciak's son, if
that's true because especially the allegations that were made against
him that he was like digitally penetrating her anus and
things like that like in in a gym against her
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will like a sodomy that needs to be 15 years
old yeah that needs to be that needs to be
like handled right away or he's going to become like
just think that he could get away with that his
whole life and become like a prolific sex offender you
know like that that's not okay and he I don't
think that like at 15 years old, his, his life
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is like, he, there's no rehabilitation for it. I think
that that's possible that there is, you don't want to
like throw away, you know, just say, okay, his, his
whole life is over. And like, but, but like you,
but at the same time, like he needs, he needs
like a strict intervention and like, If it's true and
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you have a mother that's just like, my son would
never do that, you're never going to get better.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I don't think there's any rehabilitation for sex offenders. I don't.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I disagree in certain situations. You're going to say that
this 15-year-old kid has just ruined the rest of his
life because of this. I just don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, but if it's proven to be true, he ruined
that girl's life for the rest of her life. So
why doesn't his life get to be ruined the rest
of his life?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I just don't think that that's equivalent.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
He's 15 years old. And I wouldn't say that her
life is ruined for the rest of her life because
of this. It's something that she's going to have to
overcome for sure. I just don't think that it's going
to stop her having a career or a family in
the future like it's just going to be something that
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it sucks that she went through it and everything but
like i don't think that he just is a lost
cause and should be like lock him away and throw
away the key like i i just think that that's
like a little much well.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We'll see how that pans out i think he's due
for a court hearing in the next within the next
couple weeks so i am interested to see how they're
going to proceed with that in georgia All right, Dyson
is launching a $ 500 toothbrush, which features an AI camera
and targeted liquid jet to clean between the teeth.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
This reminds me of, I guess it was like five
years ago now. We all, like everyone in my family,
all my friends, you, we all bought this toothbrush that
was insanely, ridiculously expensive. It was like $ 75, right?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Which that really isn't that expensive for electric toothbrushes.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I think that that's the most ridiculous. Like you get
a toothbrush at the dollar store and it does the
same shit.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So like we get we all get hooked on these
toothbrushes because they look really cute in your bathroom. And
then you could just like throw away the head and
replace them. And you could have got on like a
subscription to just get the heads like delivered in the
mail all the time and change them out. And like
it's supposed to brush your teeth better, blah, blah, blah.
So we all buy this. It's like $ 75. And I
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know at least five people that have one, if not more.
I'm not even going to give the company any kind
of recognition.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They're defunct now due to alleged insider trading. So it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah. But regardless, we have this toothbrush for a total of,
I swear to God, not even six months. I think
I only got one set of replacement heads. And the
company just like, Every single time I went on the
website to get replacement heads and stuff, it was just like,
we're out of stock, we're out of stock. And then
that's it. Like they're just completely under. So I essentially
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bought this $ 75 toothbrush as an investment that I was
going to have for like 10 years. Just, oh, all
I have to do is pay for these replacement heads.
And instead I had this body that I couldn't find
any attachments for to fit on. And then finally, I
guess somebody got hip and started making like Bobo ones
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on Amazon, but they don't match. Like they look like shit.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
They don't fit the same way.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
They don't fit the same way. They don't work the
same way. You know what's interesting too? Because I was
just going through some of my old stuff and I
found like an old box of the original heads. Yeah,
I only have like three of them though. And I
put one on and I was like, oh yeah, these
are like heaven. They're just like way better and they
fit good and they like, they're just pointier or something
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and you feel like your teeth are getting like really clean.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well, even though you feel you were ripped off by
that toothbrush, I'm interested in the Dyson one.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know. I, I feel like Dyson is for like,
for there it's made for like middle class, like no upper,
I would say upper middle class people who, who want
to keep up with the joneses it's made for like
a very specific population of people that actually fall for
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it it's like the same with the hair dryer and the.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Vacuum cleaner dryer well i i bought the shark version
exactly well the shark is half the price though and
it does the same shit make a rip off of
the toothbrush and i will be purchasing because i like
The ripoff of the Airwrap.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'm just saying, like, it's like they just have it
with the vacuum and the this and the that. And
it's just like having a Mercedes versus a Honda, right?
It's just kind of like the brand name. I have
this in my house. I could tell all my friends
I have this. Like, that's all it is. I'm just
not convinced that it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
What if they sent you one?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well, then it would be the best thing ever, I suppose. But, like,
I do believe. Like, I'm not against it 100%, and
I'll tell you why. Because your dental health is super important,
and people kind of tend to minimize that. And it
could really be, especially having, like, really good gum health
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can be the difference between, like, living a healthy lifestyle
and not. It just can introduce all sorts of bacteria
into your body and cause heart problems down the road.
And there's definitely a correlation between health and oral health, right?
So you definitely want to make sure that you do that.
So to pay $ 500, if this thing's going to last,
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you know, five years, it could be worth it. So
that's just for like the electric toothbrush component of it.
but it also has some kind of AI technology in it,
which is supposed to recognize areas of your teeth where
you miss that need a deeper cleaning, which in theory,
if you keep missing those areas, that is where plaque
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is going to build up. And then that's where you
have an increased chance to have a cavity, right? Now,
if you're cleaning that, and they say that their studies
are showing that there's a 70% increase in catching these areas, right? Now,
all of a sudden, you're having less cavities and then
that's going to end up saving you money down the
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line going to the dentist. So like it could be,
even though it sounds outrageously expensive, like if you're a
person that goes to the dentist, let's say, and every
time you go to the dentist once a year, you
have three cavities and you don't have good health insurance
and you have to pay out of pocket for that
or something, or your health insurance gives you the silver
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ones for free and you want the white ones because
you don't want to look like 1956 mouth, right? Like,
it's very specific to the year my mom was born. Anyway, like,
not to say that my mom has that, but whatever. Regardless, like,
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you know, it will, because I know every single time
I go to the dentist, it's like a hefty, hefty
bill if something needs to get fixed. And then if it's,
worse than a cavity and you need a root canal
or you need a crown or you need, you know,
that shit really adds up, right? So if it could
keep you from having, like, let's just pretend every single
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time from now on that you go to the dentist
that you're just getting a cleaning and you no longer
have any cavities, then hell yeah, like $ 500 would be
totally worth it because it would save money in the
long term plus pain and taking off work for appointments
and things like that, so.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like I, I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I mean, if they want to send me one, I'll
experiment with it for six months and see if there's
a difference when I go to the dentist. If he's like, yo,
everything looks great. And I leave, then I'll be like,
oh hell yeah, this was worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It is an outrageous price for a toothbrush, but it's
not like your complaint about the one we use is
that it's $ 75 to do basically the same thing. The
dollar one does. I mean, This one says it has
AI that identifies gaps between the teeth, which automatically directs
a mouth, a mouth rinse towards them. And then they
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can connect the device to the, my Dyson app and
watch a live camera view of, of their mouth. Is
that going to be caught? Is somebody going to be
caught cheating on the Dyson toothbrush camera?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I don't know, but they said, they said that the
information's kept private or whatever. And I'm just like, dude,
listen there. This is what I hate about technology so much.
And this is why I'm against like wearing those wearable
devices and stuff. It's like, there just needs to be
a separation between you as a human and your phone.
And like, I'm sorry. I just don't see the reason
why Dyson has to have access to the inside of
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my goddamn mouth. Like it's just a little much. It's just,
it's just, if there was like a sensor on it
and it wasn't like connected to anything, I'm just kind
of like, it's the same with the vacuum. Like you
don't need to have an Alexa in your house and
a camera on your vacuum. And like, you're just, you're
just like letting big brother into your world too much.
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And there just needs to be that separation.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That reminds me of speaking of my mom and this topic,
the spy cactus that she bought for the baby.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
She comes to my house with this cactus that dances. Right.
And she starts pressing the buttons and it sings like
happy birthday or whatever. And of course he loves it.
He thinks it's like the best thing ever. So then
we're just talking and then it starts repeating everything you say.
And I'm like, cool. It's just like listening to everything
you say in your house and recording it. Probably watch
a crime be solved with one of those things in
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the future. Recording all the conversations going on in the house.
Oh my God. All right. On to your questions and emails.
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them to our best of our... Cliff's notes. Cliff's notes.
Cliff's notes. Cliff's notes. Seriously. All right. First is from Natty.
I recently listened to an old episode where you were
talking about toenail injuries, and it transported me back to
a memory of mine as a child. I was on
summer holiday with my family at a campground in France.
It had a big swimming pool and kids club, etc.,
and the pool had a couple of big fun slides.
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These slides were usually made out of plastic curved or
circular sections. We went down them sitting or on our
front-facing forwards. I decided to go backward down the slide,
but laying on my front, so going feet first. As
I slid down, my big toenail on my left foot
caught on the seam in one of the connecting bits
of the slide and completely ripped off. I still shudder
(44:49):
to this day. I'm shuddering thinking about this. That does
sound absolutely....
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Toenail pain, fingernail and toenail pain is like the worst.
It's like up there with tooth pain.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah. You know, when you stub your toe, it just
hurts so bad. It's like, it's like one of the only,
I feel like I have extremely high pain tolerance for
when I stub my toe. I'm like, fuck. Every time
it just hurts so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So I went, I went to this party for one
of my kids.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And it was one of those houses that they make
you take off your shoes. And I fucking hate that.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I just hate it. I just hate it. I think
it's so dumb. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
So especially like at a fancy party where I'm wearing
like an outfit with shoes and now I got to
walk around with fricking socks on. It's just weird. So, okay.
So I take off my shoes and I go into
their elaborate excessive dining room that has these lead like
chairs to push into the dining room table. And My kid,
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I'm like doing something with one of the kids and
like pushing them in. And I freaking stubbed my toe
so hard on this chair that was made out of
a mixture of lead and cement. It was like, I
couldn't even move the thing. Like I couldn't pick it
up and just move it. Like you had to slide
it across the floor. It was so freaking heavy. And
I swear, like I've never, I just could not believe
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how much pain I was in. Like I wanted to cry.
I really wanted to cry. It hurts so bad. Like
that rarely has happened to me. And I still think
to this day, like I possibly broke my toe or something.
I mean, it was purple and my toenail turned black
and it fell off and it just was, it was
just so horrible. And I didn't even really realize at
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the time. And then, you know, I go home and
the next morning I took off my sock and was like, oh, okay,
well that makes sense why it hurts so bad because
there's hemorrhage all over my foot right now. It's like
something really bad happened. And I was so pissed because
I was like, I should have had.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
My shoes on.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
This would not have happened if I had my shoes on.
So I like, I'm not used to walking around in socks.
So it just, it just like, it's their fault. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, a lot of people are like that. Like
I'm in the mentality. If you want to live like
that every day, that's fine. But if you're having like
people over you, it's like that episode of sex in
the city where they make Carrie take off her shoes
and then somebody steals her Manolo blottings. Right. Like, I
think there's certain exceptions you could probably have in your
house that if you're having parties or something, you don't
have to make everybody take their shoes off. Nobody wants
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to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah. I just and like if I if I so
happen to be wearing like a pair of loafers and
I have socks on, it's like a little bit better.
But like oftentimes, especially starting soon for the whole entire,
you know, fall and winter, I'm going to be wearing boots, right?
And then it's like, oh, I have to untie my
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boots and take them off. But also, what if you're
not wearing socks?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I mean, a lot of times when I wear loafers
and stuff, I'm not wearing socks. So it is just weird.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I don't– and, like, I think it's funny that people
would rather have my disgusting bare feet on their floor
instead of shoes. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I'd rather have outside dirt than someone's nasty-ass foot.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I just don't– I don't go by the germ theory
like that. I just think that it's ridiculous and, like, that's,
you know– and I'm correct because, like, we don't get
sick like that. So it's not, like, you know– I mean,
it's definitely– I think I could see if you don't
want to wash your floors all the time that it brings–
It definitely brings dirt into the house for sure. And
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the kids, I make them take off, especially like there's
like mud and stuff embedded in the bottom of their shoe.
I won't let them wear them in, but.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Like, should I not wear shoes in the baby's room
because some idiot bought a white and orange checkered rug? Yes.
But guess what? I didn't. He's three months old. That's
my fault, though. But whatever. All right, next is from Ashley.
Have you ever found old chewing gum inside someone? Does
it really stay for years? Ricky also wanted to know
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if this applied to the myth of maraschino cherries.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I never even heard of that.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, there's stories that they stay in your bodies for years. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
No, nothing does. Unless it's a foreign body. Like hair
accumulates and doesn't get digested. But usually when people do that,
they do it excessively and then it becomes an obstruction
and then they have to get surgery to get it removed.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
A bezoar.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, any kind of bezoar like that. The only thing
that I ever got that was inside of someone's body
for years was a gift bag that was in someone's... Yeah,
I know that sounds bizarre. sounds really bizarre someone ate
a gift bag that's that was in someone's stomach for
years but um and it was like one of those
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ones that are coated you know they're like shiny so
there was something in it that that the stomach because
like normally if it was just paper the body would
break that down eventually but this was like some kind
of plastic that it just was small enough of a
piece that it just kind of went to the side
and never really caused this person problems which is really
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unusual and crazy. But yeah, chewing gum, no, never, ever.
No matter how many autopsies I've done, surgical specimens, opening
colons full of poop, anything, I've never, ever, ever seen
chewing gum. I mean, it's gone by the time it
even leaves your stomach. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
So I guess the greater conspiracy is why don't they
want to swallow in gum? What's the difference? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I mean, maybe, maybe I'm just, I'm not sure. Like
they would say it. So like, I understand this one.
Cause when they say to kids, I remember when I
was a kid, when there was no such thing as
like a seedless watermelon, right. They all had black seeds
in them. They would say like, don't eat the seeds
because you're going to grow a watermelon in your stomach,
which is definitely not going to happen. But like, If
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you eat, I do have a couple cases in the
grocery room too of people eating like pomegranate is a
good example of something that like, because you're not supposed
to eat those, you know, you're supposed to chew them
and spit them out. Sunflower seeds, like you're supposed to,
you're not supposed to eat the shell of the sunflower seed, right?
So if you are a person like me that just
obsessively eats like one thing at a time, so like
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you know, if my kick of the week is, I
don't even know what to say it is. Like, I'll
just eat that all day.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
I'll eat that.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
This is what happened. Why I had such extreme GI problems.
Cause I ate 6,000 tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
You know what mine is right now?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Bread and butter pickles. I'm just eating so many. And zucchini. Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
So like if you, if you do something like that, Like,
for example, when I ate, you know, 6,000 tomatoes, all
of a sudden I was having like my GERD acted
up so bad because I had way too much stomach acid, right? Well,
if you're a person that wants to house like multiple
bags of sunflower seeds and you eat the shell too,
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then that will accumulate and cause like a bezoar of
like wood essentially inside of your intestines and it'll cause
an obstruction.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
I think if you have a handful of them and
you eat them, you'll be fine. But it could be
with like pomegranates and like all different sorts of, so
the same with watermelon seeds, things like that. Like if
you eat a ton of watermelon too. So like, it's
just like a moderation thing with that. But, and like,
obviously like corn doesn't digest either, right? So you shouldn't
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eat like a shit ton of corn like that at
one time either. But like, I've never seen anything else
that you're like, Why is this here? What is this?
And like, there's plenty of people that get surgeries all
the time that don't know that they're getting surgery. Because
let's say, for example, they have like a ruptured diverticulitis
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or something, right? Like they woke up in the morning
and for four days before that, they didn't know that
they were going to have that. So they have this
immense pain. They go to the hospital and they say,
oh my God, you have a perforation of your bowel
and we need to take this section of your bowel out. Well,
that person doesn't have a bowel prep, so they're full
of poop still. Like everything they ate the day before. Like,
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you know, whenever you get a surgery or colonoscopy, they
make you clean out because of that, right? Especially if
you have a colon cancer and you have a planned surgery.
Or if you have diverticulitis that's just like angry, but
it's not perforated yet. Like they give you, they make
you clean out. So when we get it in pathology,
you open it up and it's like totally clear. There's
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no poop in it. But sometimes there's so much, so
part of this job is going through a lot of poop.
So I've been through a lot of poop, and I
just never have seen chewing gum or maraschino cherries.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
You know, I used to eat the sunflower shells when
I was a little kid, and I vividly remember being
at our apartment on 4th and Spruce, and one got
stuck in my gums so bad, and it hurt so bad.
And what was I, like seven when we lived there?
I will never forget this. And you were, like, pulling
it out of my mouth and back through it. And
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then I never ate that ever again. I was like,
this was torturous.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
All right, last. This is from Jackie. What's the largest
foreign body you've ever had in gross pathology? So I
guess you had the gift bag, but was that the largest? No,
that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
I would say.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
I haven't really had any crazy ones.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Like, I mean... Really.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
And I guess like if I was talking to anybody,
you would say, yeah, that's pretty crazy, whatever. But the
biggest thing that I've ever had is like a huge dildo,
like an extra huge, not anywhere near the size of
one that you would think of. But I've had like
friends of mine, like one of our friends got like
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a huge mag light one time from someone's rectum. So,
I mean, think about that. Have you ever, like, held
one of those things? They're freaking heavy and huge.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Someone we know, I'll tell you after, just had to
remove one of those giant octopus tentacles dildos out of somebody,
and it was, like, stuck, and they had to be
transferred to another hospital for surgery. They were in surgery for, like,
nine hours and couldn't get it out.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, I mean, I imagine that. It's just, it's awful.
And one of the It's funny that we're talking about
this because another article had come up recently about like
sex therapists talking about sex toys that you could use
from around the house. And I feel like we talked
about this on a past episode before.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
We did because remember it was saying to hump your
couch arm and you were like, who.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
The hell does that? Yeah. This one was equally as weird. First,
talking about toothbrushes, it was saying to use your electric
toothbrush and as like a vibrator. This person was like,
get some spoons and spatulas out of your kitchen and
have fun with them. And I'm like, I don't think like,
I never look at a spatula and be like, oh,
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I really want to stick that up my vag. Like
that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
What I'm thinking right now.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
I wasn't thinking a wood one. I was thinking a
silicone one, but still. And then it was, and then
it was saying, oh, you could use a cucumber or banana,
but make sure you put a condom on it because it,
you know, it could have bacteria on it and you
don't want to mess up the bacteria. And I'm just like,
who is going to put a condom, they're by their
self and you're going to put a condom on a cucumber? Like,
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that sounds real fun.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
It's, it's too many steps. So. And the toothbrush, like,
and what if you use somebody else's toothbrush? Like, no,
I don't want to think about anybody using my toothbrush
at all for anything.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well, that EMT was using other people's toothbrushes.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I know, well.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
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Hi, everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about people looking at inappropriate material
on their devices while on an airplane. Then we have
a really unusual case of a man who thought of
a very unconventional way to catch his wife cheating. And
now he is being charged with a crime. So we'll
(00:22):
get into exactly what he did. Another terrifying story out
of New York City where a woman tried to kidnap
a child from inside of a subway station, like a
good old fashioned kidnapping. Then we have a really horrific
yet bizarre bullying incident where an 11 year old boy,
you know, when you think of bullying, he wasn't beat up.
(00:44):
He wasn't given a wedgie. No, he was pulled into
a bathroom and these kids circumcised him. Yes, circumcised him.
Then we'll finish up with a lighter topic discussing these
viral $ 500 toothbrushes. We'll finish up with your comments, questions,
and emails, all that and more on today's episode. Let's
(01:05):
get started with this story of looking at inappropriate things
on airplanes.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean, I really can't believe this story is not
blowing up more. This to me is one of the
more disturbing things we've covered in the last couple of years.
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:18):
You know what's funny? When I thought about this story
and it was like, you'll discuss exactly what happened, but
you're on the plane and you're thinking other people that
are sitting right behind you could see every single thing.
They could see what movie you're watching or whatever you
have on your laptop. And do you remember when we
(01:39):
were flying to Denver for CrimeCon last year? I was like,
fixing up my lecture. And, and then I was concerned
because I was like, Oh my God, some of these
pictures are so graphic. And the people sitting behind me, like,
don't want to see a dead decomposing body on my
screen right now. And they might be questioning, like, what
(01:59):
is this girl doing? And also just, you, you don't
really want people filming you. So if you're on, you know,
paying your bills or anything, you just have to be
careful because you're It is very easy to see what
someone's doing.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh, for sure. I mean, this is absolutely unacceptable. So
what we're talking about is Wheel of Fortune announcer Jim Thornton.
So last week, the news broke originally that he was
just suspended amid allegations from Wheel of Fortune. And they
didn't really elaborate exactly what that was yet. So I
saw that and I was thinking like, okay, we're seeing
(02:34):
a lot in Hollywood that there's sexual misconduct allegations, and
I'm assuming that, and not really understanding what is going
to be revealed days later. So now it's coming out
that he was on this flight, and this woman looked
over at his screen and saw he was in a
chat room, and I don't even know if I looked
over if I would have realized what was going on.
(02:55):
Because it was pretty... I mean, I'm kind of blind,
so I don't even know if I would have been able...
To see what was going on. But basically she saw
he was in this pedophile chat room. And I know
that these chat rooms exist. But seeing a screenshot of it.
And seeing exactly the way the conversation was going down.
Made me sick to my stomach. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I was thinking the same thing. Because I'm not. I
wouldn't consider myself to be a nosy person.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
If I looked over. And there wasn't something that was
blatantly obvious.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Like.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Pornography that was just in my face or something I
I wouldn't take the time to really try to figure
out what was happening which because the picture that was
released looks like it was a person that wasn't sitting
right next to them right it was kind of like
across an aisle or something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
From the vantage point it looks like it was the
row behind him across the aisle so like.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah so so in my opinion She didn't see that
on his screen. She took a picture of it and
zoomed in on it to see what he was looking at.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
She had to.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
It was too far away. Because there's no way that
you could see that far away, right? And I feel
like I could see kind of okay with my glasses on,
but I just really wouldn't be able to read someone's
text from that far away. So that's where I would
lose it because I would never do that because I'm
just not that nosy. But people do that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I understand. I understand.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
So, and imagine her shock that she did that and
zoomed in and then started reading all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Do you think she was just like, do you think
she recognized him and was just taking a picture of
him to say like, oh, look, I saw the guy
on the plane and then she realized it? Because I'm like,
why would you just take a picture of somebody's computer
screen and then zoom in on it?
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, because people are nosy.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean, I'm nosy, but I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I 100% think that that's exactly how it went down.
Let me just entertain myself right now and read what
this person's writing.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
All right. So let me read to you some of
the messages that were on. I don't want to give
away even the URL for this because I don't want
other people going on it. If, God forbid, anybody listens
that's interested in this type of thing, I don't even
want them to have access to this. But basically, what
was overread on the screen and what are in images
that are being published in news media? With him in it. Like,
(05:25):
it's him on the computer. You could see the URL,
which is the pedophile chat room. And then you could
proceed to see the chat. So some of the disturbing
messages were... Somebody said, couple of cute boys and a
hot little girl. Referring to a restaurant with underage kids.
Somebody said, all you could eat, boyfay. And then there
was mentions of, quote, CP throughout. Which, obviously, if you
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read the context, means child porn. Which is so disgusting.
So then, he was typing... under this username, like Nicholas something, right?
And his messages were, well, it's crazy doing the service.
I don't want to say it. It's crazy doing the
service from the sky, which all of the pedophiles in
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the chat are like, what if somebody sees you? Blah, blah, blah.
And he's like, no, it's fine. I'll just hide it.
Which there were pictures of him later, like Googling how
to get rid of his search history or something. And
then another disgusting message he sent was, Saunters to the
bathroom for a quick wank on the 737. Ew. This
is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
It really is disgusting. And so, of course, like, these
images got sold to TMZ, apparently. And the internet is
doing what it does, which is finding out every single
detail about this guy. And so they search his... So
he has a weird username that's like... What is it?
Like Nicholas.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It was like Nicholas B.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah. It's like a number or something. It's not his
name and a bunch of numbers.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
So they actually found that username because it it's definitely
like not a randomly assigned thing.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
It's it's something he uses. It's like it would be
really unusual for another Web site to have a user
with the same exact random name. Right. Yeah. And they
found that name on other child porn Web sites. Um, and,
and also on one of those things that he had
posted a picture of himself when he was a little
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kid wearing like a pair of shorts and no shirt,
like he's, he's like topless as a child. And it said,
it was labeled and said, come if you can, but
it was spelled like C O M E. If you can, like,
what else could that possibly mean? So he was like
uploading a picture of himself as a child and, To
(07:47):
a child porn website. And writing come as you can.
If you can. Like.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It's so big.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Like what.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What other reason would be. For him to do that.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Except.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh of course. His publicist said. Did you.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
All right. It's not even the publicist. His lawyer. Is like.
First of all. He has been really active in a
suicide prevention hotline. And somebody on that hotline. Which had
a similar name. sent him the link to this one
and he didn't realize what it was and immediately left.
You're wrong because the woman taking the pictures, according to
(08:26):
the timestamps, it looks like he was in the pedophile
chat room for 57 minutes. So if you realize what
it was, why are you in it for almost an hour,
let alone engaging in conversation with other pedophiles? B, what else?
She said something else so ridiculous. The lawyer added that
the chat is not unlawful. There is no unlawful child
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pornography or other pedophile pedophilic content. And my client never viewed,
downloaded or consumed any child pornography, whether on that commercial
flight in May or at any other time. Yeah, I'm
not really convinced.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Well, it doesn't matter if he did, because like that's
up to him and the law or whatever. But like
the bottom line is, is that he is the voice
of Wheel of Fortune and I'm sorry, like, I don't
care if he never did it. I just definitely don't
want to be hearing from someone that like, it's like
the difference between cheating on your wife and being in
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a chat room with and talking dirty to a person, right? Like,
it's still not right. It's not as bad, I guess
you would say, but like, you're talking dirty about child porn,
and you're going in the bathroom of the airplane and
beating off like, I still think that I'm not a
fan of you. You're a disgusting person.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Also, when he said like he was like crazy doing
this website on a plane. So clearly he was like
a regular of the website. Because why else would you
say that? And then the people that were freaking out
if somebody saw him were referencing another case of a
man getting caught for watching child pornography on an airplane.
So like there. is nothing to confuse us with so
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basically this woman took all these pictures and videos of
him flagged down a flight attendant in the back showed
the flight attendant who then told the pilot and then
when the plane landed law enforcement met him at the.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Gate well i mean she had proof And you could
go on the back of the plane and see one
of the flight attendants and be like, what do you
think about this? Like, it is really, really disturbing and upsetting.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
What would you even do? Like, if you saw somebody
do it? Like, I don't know, because it's like he
wasn't blatantly watching it, but he's also engaging in something illegal. Like,
to me, that's bullshit what the lawyer said. Engaging in
a pedophile chat room should be just as illegal as
everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Listen, it's also just, like, such bullshit. Like, how many
times have you come across, like, anybody send you links
all the time? I get links sent to me all
the time on Instagram and this and that. Like, nobody
ever send you a link by accident or intentionally of
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child porn.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, I'm sure it's happened to people in the past, but, like, he.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
That you've clicked on it and been like, oh, my God,
I shouldn't be here. It's kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But I shouldn't be here 57 minutes later. Like, it's
just such bullshit. I'm sorry. So, of course, they said
he was questioned and he was released. That doesn't mean anything.
And he was suspended pending an investigation and then clearly...
The show saw that he was guilty based on the picture.
I actually wonder if they would have fired him if
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the pictures of him with the chat next to each
other weren't published on TMZ. Oh, no, they probably would
have denied it after that. So so he is definitely
out now. He's fired. Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Which means it's true. Come on.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I mean, come on. This is absolutely ridiculous. It really is.
I don't know. And it's like, we talk about this
stuff all the time. I know these chat rooms exist,
but like seeing it in action and how casually they
talk about one of the most heinous crimes in the
world is so unbelievable to me. And it's one of
those things we're always saying, like, how did these people
even get connected? Like, how did he discover this chat?
(12:19):
How did he even know to go to this website?
Speaker 1 (12:21):
It's because the person on the suicide hotline sent it
to him.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bullshit.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
He had no idea it existed.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
A good lawyer.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And he so happened to have a picture of himself.
He's old too, right? Isn't he like 60-something, right?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Based on appearance, he looks like late 50s, early 60s.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, so he just so happens to have a picture
of himself as a child that he's uploading.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, you can't bullshit internet sleuths because they will find everything.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh, yeah. Yeah. They also found, well, I said that
they found his username on another one of these sites too.
And this has been like two days. Just give it
a minute and they're going to find everything about him.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
This is why they're like, never go on reality TV
if you have one skeleton in your closet because these
people will find everything about you. So never. All right.
So a man has been jailed for secretly recording his
wife having an affair with their robot vacuum.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah. And I feel like maybe at some point, we've
talked about this, that those things can, they record people, right?
Like I didn't even, I don't really understand why a
vacuum has to have the ability to record anything. I,
I guess like what we talked about before, maybe this
was a cut story.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I don't even remember if we did it is that
they have the ability to detect motion around them. So
I've never heard of them. I can see if they
maybe have a camera feature. for the vacuum purposes for cleaning,
but I don't know why you would be able to
access it.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, I don't... I really... I could see, like, obviously, like,
it needs to have some kind of sense of where
to go. I just don't really... I really don't understand, like,
what other purpose it would be to, like, actually record
something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, this story has layers, of course. So, this guy
bought the robot vacuum... And while he was away, he
was planning to use it to talk to his wife
through the vacuum. So he initially activates it and then
suddenly sees her naked with the man she's having an
affair with. So then decides he's going to record them
having the affair. So then he used that footage to
(14:33):
file a civil lawsuit against them, claiming they infringed on
his marital rights. He won and they had to pay
him 500,000 Taiwan dollars, which is about 15,700 US dollars.
And then the wife flipped it on him and was
able to use the footage to file a criminal complaint
against him saying that she was videoed against her consent,
(14:54):
without her consent. And now he's been sentenced to five
months in jail.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
So what was the fine in U.S.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Dollars? Like $ 15, 700 U.S. dollars.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
So you get fined $ 15, 000 for having an affair?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, in Taiwan.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I mean, it's kind of crazy, but I think it's,
You could say, I would personally think that the worst
of the crimes was the cheating, not the recording, especially
because like you were recording someone without their consent, but
you caught them doing something. So I feel like it's
kind of a wash and now he has to go
to prison for five months. The change, the difference, how
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we live in this world is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It's, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Like, This guy on the airplane in America is talking
about having sex with children, and he won't even get anything.
I mean, he lost his job, but he's fine. I'm
sure he'll be back in a year doing something else
or something. And then this guy, he's just at home.
(16:01):
He's just an innocent guy. He's kind of suspicious. His
wife's been acting weird. And records her and finds out
that she's cheating and he gets put in prison for
five months. Like, I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I don't understand either. I mean, maybe, like, I'm so
interested by the fine for having an affair. So, like,
maybe we need to implement that in the United States
as well as, like, in the UK, which is if
you sue somebody and you lose, you have to pay
their legal bills because the lawsuits in this country are
getting out of control.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, they really are.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
All right. New York City police are searching for a
woman who tried to kidnap a six-year-old at the Inwood
207 Street train station. So this happened back on July 29th.
They're saying this little girl was with her mother. The
mother was carrying her younger brother and had the little
girl next to her side. And as the mom was
going to swipe her card on the turnstile, the girl
(16:55):
starts screaming, mom, mom, mom. And literally this older woman
is like trying to yank the girl by her arm
and go through the turnstile, which Thankfully, this woman's card
wasn't going through, so she wasn't able to get past
the gate. Otherwise, she could have taken the kid and
run off and gotten onto a train and God knows
where they would have went.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, it is. It's just really, really. I mean, this
is that's why I said in the opening, like this
is a good old fashioned kidnapping. You don't hear about
stuff like this this often. It's not a baby. It's
not some like weird person that's pretending to be pregnant,
going to a hospital and stealing a baby out of
a nursery. It's like really, really a bizarre situation that
(17:39):
in broad daylight like that. I mean, obviously like all
of the stories that have been happening in New York
City over the past couple weeks alone are just, there's
just clearly people who are mentally ill. So maybe it
wasn't like a legitimately thought out kidnapping, but more of
just like a crazy person that just was like, you know,
(18:00):
There's some crazy people that push people off of a platform.
This is like, oh, I'm just going to grab this
kid and terrorize these people. I actually hope it was
more of that than a person that was like, I'm
going to go steal a kid today and thought it
out and tried to do it.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean, you just never know. And like, I was
talking to my mom just about like, even when I
go out to the store with the baby, how vulnerable
I feel in the parking lot. Cause you know, it
just takes a couple of seconds to either get your
kid in the car seat or like snapped her car
seat back in. And she was like telling me when
you guys were little, she used to jam you all
in the back seat and then she'd get in and
lock the door and then buckle you.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Up.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like I kind of understand that feeling though. You are
so vulnerable in public like that. Like this mom is
just like holding a kid and trying to go through
the thing and her other kids literally right next to her.
And this woman is just trying to kidnap her in
broad daylight. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, and it's scary because if her ticket actually worked
and she was able to get through, like what would
have happened?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Well, exactly. Like I think with all the surveillance, which
I don't even know how long that would have taken.
I think with all the surveillance at all the train stops,
They could have probably figured out where the lady got
on and got off, etc. But like, how long would
that have taken? Would they have been able to get
the girl quickly? You just don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Like, yeah, I mean, it is. It's really scary because
if you saw a woman carrying a kid that was
screaming and carrying on, especially like a five or a
six year old, you would just be like, oh, they're
just having a temper tantrum or something. You wouldn't even
be like, wait, this is suspicious. Like, why is this
kid freaking out like that?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You know, like. Like, do we have to.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I mean, you see it sometimes and you're just kind
of like, oh, that person can't control their kid. You
wouldn't be thinking that they were kidnapped.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Totally. And it's like, do we need to start teaching
kids like to scream like this isn't my mom? Like,
what if you saw a little kid? screaming, this isn't
my parent. And they were dragging the kid, you.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Know, like in New York, no one would do anything.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Well, exactly. There used to be that show. I think
it was called, what would you do? And they would
do scenarios. Like it probably got canceled for being way
too controversial. Yeah, it was, it was good social experiment
to see how people, Would react in these situations. Because
it is really really bad. I don't know. Was it
a crazy person. That just didn't know what they were doing.
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Were they trying to traffic this kid. This is so terrifying.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
I just actually saw a video like that. On I
guess someone. Is you know. There's always like a person
on social media. That that's their thing. They like do
that what would you do situation. And they would like.
Have a little kid. sitting on a bench and like
some guy like asking her questions like oh where do
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you live oh like i have something in my car
like pretending to like lure her yeah and and like
a person that doesn't know anything is sitting on the
bench next to them and and you know the whole
thing's set up but the person on the bench like
to see how they would react like would they jump
in if they saw a person like trying to you
know talk to a child inappropriately or something and Most
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of the time, the couple videos that I saw, like,
it would even be, like, a younger guy, like, a
20-year-old guy or something that you would think is, like,
really sitting there keeping to himself. And he would just
be like, yo, man, do you know that girl? Don't
talk to that kid. Like, it was really, like, interesting
to see that and, like, kind of restore your faith
in humanity a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, it really does. Because I would say, like, I
think today most people are just like, I don't want
to get involved. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I mean, and I understand that.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
I understand that too, but it's, you know, I always
talk about this too, is like a couple of years ago,
we were on the boardwalk in the morning, just getting breakfast.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And I just saw this two year old wandering around
like no parent in sight.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And I'm just like, I am having a heart attack
about that, you know? And then everybody with me is like,
that's not your business. And I'm like, okay, but you
would understand. Like I didn't have a baby yet, but
I had just been around the girls being young, you know?
And I'm like, I think people without kids don't realize it.
And the kid's mom was, around but still inappropriately far
away for the kid's age but like still it was
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making me deeply uncomfortable that this kid was just running around.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Alone I know I hate when I see a little
kid upset like like when because they're really scared and
upset if they're you know if they lost their parent
or something um that just reminds me of the time
that I was at a hair salon on Frankfurt Ave
in Philly and Lucia I was getting my hair washed
and I had the girls with me and Lucia was
like three or four. And she just like, when I
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was getting my hair washed, she like bolted out the
front door of the salon.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And I'm like all of the adults in the salon.
And then she ran like halfway down Frankfurt Ave. Like,
you know what I mean? It was so crazy. And
I ran outside and it was a packed street, you know,
cause it's like busy there. There's like the law column
and stuff there.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
It's always busy right there.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
And I just wanted to yell at everybody on the
street and be like, you fucking assholes. Like you didn't
see that there's a three-year-old running up the street by themselves.
Like not one person was like, hey, let me like
stop this kid. She was like bolting into the street.
It was so ridiculous. I know it's my fault that
I wasn't like holding her and watching her and didn't
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have a leash on her. But like all the people
in the salon and everything, like not one person, I
was just like, Did someone open the door for her?
Could she even reach the handle? It just was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
At the end of the day, it is your fault.
But then you think about... Exactly. It's not like the
door was propped open on a nice day. And there
was two doors. There was a door into the building
and a door into the salon, which means two adults
opened the door. She couldn't have opened those doors. They
were heavy.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I just thought it was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Come on, people.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It takes a community. Like... You're supposed to be looking
out for situations like that. And I just was like,
all these people suck. I mean, maybe it's just because
the population is just like a bunch of like younger
hipsters that like don't have kids and they don't, they
just think it's totally normal for like a three-year-old to
be walking up the street. But you know.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's what I'm saying. I think it's maybe a situation
that if you have young kids in your family or
you're a parent yourself, you could understand like wanting to
help a child that's unattended. But If you're not, you're
just like, this isn't my business. And I'm like, OK,
but how many people's business is it not until something
bad happens? You know, even if let's not even say
it's a human child, like let's say it's a dog.
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If you see like a dog that's running up a
busy street and might run into the street and get
hit by a car, like wouldn't you try to like.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Be like, look around, like, where's the owner? Where's the
person in charge of this dog? Oh my God, this
dog's going to run in the street and get hit
by a car. Or are you just going to let
it happen and be like, not my problem.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
There is a dog on the street behind me that
literally is on the, it must bolt when they open
the door. Because I always see, it's like a little
white dog and I always see it running up the street.
And then like two minutes later, I see the family running.
running after it up the street like once a week
at least.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well at least it's not like random pitbulls like in
my neighborhood no that's that's always fun.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But it's like outrage it's seriously once a week that
i see somebody in the family chasing after this thing
And I'm just like, what do you do in that
case if you have a dog that's just running like that?
I just don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
The same thing you do when you have a child
like that. You just put them on a leash.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh my God. I used to be so against the
child leashes, but then like Lubert really needed one.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I was until like that. I don't know what was
up with Lubert in that period of time of her life,
but she just, like I that ruined my life when
that happened and I always had the kids like I
tried to carry on my normal life and just have
them with me all the time but she tried to
do it once too when we were walking to the
zoo because when you go to the zoo you're in
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the middle of the city and you have to park
like a block away and walk but there's like busy
streets that she would just like like let go of
my hand and bolt like it was so crazy and
I'm just like I don't understand like what you're doing
right now. Do you want to die? Like, but, but yeah.
And I was just like, I don't care if everybody
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sits there and looks at me and judges me, like whatever.
Like I, I rather people think that I'm a total
crazy person than have a dead child. Nope.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
For sure. All right. South African police have opened an
investigation after an 11 year old boy was circumcised by
four bullies in the school bathroom.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
This is like, again, just talking about living in different
areas of the world, how much different life is for people.
So apparently they do this. They do have these like
initiation ceremonies in certain cultures where, I mean, this definitely
wasn't it. But you would even say like if you
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went up to an average 11-year-old boy in America today
and asked them if they would know how to perform
a circumcision, most of them probably wouldn't even know that
they even had one or know what it even entailed.
So like, that was my first question is like, how
do these kids even know how to do that? Because
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it is a, it's a procedure that has to be
done in a certain kind of way for it to
be done correctly and not just you know, go and
amputate the penis. And apparently like they did it semi-correctly.
Like when they looked at the wound, they said, oh,
this is this, the way that they did it is
similar to how they perform some of these rituals. And
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it's just to like, you know, enter a boy into manhood.
But these are things that are like ceremonies that are
done where like a surgeon performs a circumcision and stuff.
So The reason I'm saying that is that there's just
a possibility that these children have been exposed to this
throughout their life, so they kind of know what something
like that would look like. But to think that now
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you're going to go do this with a knife in
school to bully a child and to think that you're
going to put your hands on a child's genitals like
that and mutilate their genitals, it's just it's just so
like beyond anything that I would think any child would
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ever do.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
I mean, and it said some of the tools recovered
were rusty spears, scissors, razor blades, and crudely made cutting tools.
So it's like, clearly this wasn't sanitary at all.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
These children like tied this kid down, held his arms
and legs of four children. And then one of them
took his foreskin, tied it with a ribbon and cut
it off.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Like in the school bathroom.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
In the school bathroom.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So the worst part was, is they, I mean, that
was obviously the worst part, but like following up on that,
they then threatened him if he were to tell anybody.
So he just kind of like limped out of the
bathroom and was too scared to tell the teacher. He
went home and was acting weird. The mom asked why
he was walking weird, which he played off as being
like a new trend of how kids are walking around,
which is so sad. And then after a couple of days,
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He finally couldn't get out of bed and then told
the mom exactly what happened. Like, this is horrific.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah. And I mean, he could have had such severe
complications like bleeding, infection. I he could even get an
infection so bad or just have like a loss of
blood that he could have had necrosis and would have
required an amputation like a penile amputation that which would
have been terrible and I mean hopefully he ends up
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healing okay from this and just it's just so awful
like it's It's beyond a sexual assault, you know? I
just don't even know how to describe it.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I don't know either. And this is, like, I wouldn't even,
I think using the term bully in this case is just, like,
a little too loose. I mean, these people mutilated him.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
This isn't like they, like, pushed him in a locker.
The other people that did it are kids, too. Like,
they don't even, you know, when you're 11, it's like
you're starting to recognize right from wrong and things like that.
But you're still, your brain is just, like, not to
be held as as an adult that you're thinking straight
i mean we say this all the time when kids
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when kids commit crimes on this level i don't like
it's it's like some some like i don't even know
like dexter shit or something just like the the kids
like a sociopath in some kind of way in my
opinion right it just is an early sign of it
it's like when you hear um people that that tend
to have homicidal you know tendencies when they get older
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like not just like a person that shoots someone in
the street for something, but like people that are serial
killers and things like that. Like they, you always look
back at their history and they like did weird shit
with animals or killed animals or something.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
And like, I think the quote unquote bullies were a
little older, like 13 years old. And I was just
listening to something earlier about an update with Kim Zolciak's son, right?
Cause he's 15 and they said he's going to be
charged as an adult. But I think in Georgia law,
if the crime is committed between ages 13 to 17,
then they get charged as an adult. So they're considering
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there that 13 years old is old enough to recognize
that right from wrong.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, and I do agree with that. I mean, if
they were 11, I just think that there's a huge
difference between even 11, 10, 11, and 13. Yeah, for sure.
And there's just.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
A huge.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Maturing and stuff, but I mean, like, I think that
they should still get tried. It's just, as an adult, like,
because then you're saying, like, okay, if a 13-year-old did this,
it's the same as if a 27-year-old did it. I
just don't, I don't see that that's equivalent. But, I mean,
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something has to be done for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, I think it just depends on the severity of
the crime. Yeah. Like, If what happened in Kim Zolciak's
son's case, Croy Beerman Jr., is true, because right now
there are allegations and it's alleged, if that turns out
to be true and he's convicted, I mean, that's a
pretty horrific crime for somebody so young. And the same
in this case. Mutilating and circumcising somebody is a pretty
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horrific crime for 13-year-olds to be committing.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Yeah, and they definitely need to... I mean, I feel
like there was a rule for a while that was
just like, you're under 18, you're not going to get
in trouble. And it's like, they see that clearly if
you circumcise a child, obviously, even if you're in sixth
or seventh grade, when you do something like that, you
have to really have some kind of intense intervention in
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order for that kid to have any kind of chance
of not growing up to be a complete psychopath. And
the same could be said about Kim Zolciak's son, if
that's true because especially the allegations that were made against
him that he was like digitally penetrating her anus and
things like that like in in a gym against her
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will like a sodomy that needs to be 15 years
old yeah that needs to be that needs to be
like handled right away or he's going to become like
just think that he could get away with that his
whole life and become like a prolific sex offender you
know like that that's not okay and he I don't
think that like at 15 years old, his, his life
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is like, he, there's no rehabilitation for it. I think
that that's possible that there is, you don't want to
like throw away, you know, just say, okay, his, his
whole life is over. And like, but, but like you,
but at the same time, like he needs, he needs
like a strict intervention and like, If it's true and
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you have a mother that's just like, my son would
never do that, you're never going to get better.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I don't think there's any rehabilitation for sex offenders. I don't.
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I disagree in certain situations. You're going to say that
this 15-year-old kid has just ruined the rest of his
life because of this. I just don't believe that.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Okay, but if it's proven to be true, he ruined
that girl's life for the rest of her life. So
why doesn't his life get to be ruined the rest
of his life?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I just don't think that that's equivalent.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
He's 15 years old. And I wouldn't say that her
life is ruined for the rest of her life because
of this. It's something that she's going to have to
overcome for sure. I just don't think that it's going
to stop her having a career or a family in
the future like it's just going to be something that
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it sucks that she went through it and everything but
like i don't think that he just is a lost
cause and should be like lock him away and throw
away the key like i i just think that that's
like a little much well.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
We'll see how that pans out i think he's due
for a court hearing in the next within the next
couple weeks so i am interested to see how they're
going to proceed with that in georgia All right, Dyson
is launching a $ 500 toothbrush, which features an AI camera
and targeted liquid jet to clean between the teeth.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
This reminds me of, I guess it was like five
years ago now. We all, like everyone in my family,
all my friends, you, we all bought this toothbrush that
was insanely, ridiculously expensive. It was like $ 75, right?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Which that really isn't that expensive for electric toothbrushes.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I think that that's the most ridiculous. Like you get
a toothbrush at the dollar store and it does the
same shit.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So like we get we all get hooked on these
toothbrushes because they look really cute in your bathroom. And
then you could just like throw away the head and
replace them. And you could have got on like a
subscription to just get the heads like delivered in the
mail all the time and change them out. And like
it's supposed to brush your teeth better, blah, blah, blah.
So we all buy this. It's like $ 75. And I
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know at least five people that have one, if not more.
I'm not even going to give the company any kind
of recognition.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
They're defunct now due to alleged insider trading. So it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah. But regardless, we have this toothbrush for a total of,
I swear to God, not even six months. I think
I only got one set of replacement heads. And the
company just like, Every single time I went on the
website to get replacement heads and stuff, it was just like,
we're out of stock, we're out of stock. And then
that's it. Like they're just completely under. So I essentially
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bought this $ 75 toothbrush as an investment that I was
going to have for like 10 years. Just, oh, all
I have to do is pay for these replacement heads.
And instead I had this body that I couldn't find
any attachments for to fit on. And then finally, I
guess somebody got hip and started making like Bobo ones
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on Amazon, but they don't match. Like they look like shit.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
They don't fit the same way.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
They don't fit the same way. They don't work the
same way. You know what's interesting too? Because I was
just going through some of my old stuff and I
found like an old box of the original heads. Yeah,
I only have like three of them though. And I
put one on and I was like, oh yeah, these
are like heaven. They're just like way better and they
fit good and they like, they're just pointier or something
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and you feel like your teeth are getting like really clean.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Well, even though you feel you were ripped off by
that toothbrush, I'm interested in the Dyson one.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know. I, I feel like Dyson is for like,
for there it's made for like middle class, like no upper,
I would say upper middle class people who, who want
to keep up with the joneses it's made for like
a very specific population of people that actually fall for
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it it's like the same with the hair dryer and the.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Vacuum cleaner dryer well i i bought the shark version
exactly well the shark is half the price though and
it does the same shit make a rip off of
the toothbrush and i will be purchasing because i like
The ripoff of the Airwrap.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
I'm just saying, like, it's like they just have it
with the vacuum and the this and the that. And
it's just like having a Mercedes versus a Honda, right?
It's just kind of like the brand name. I have
this in my house. I could tell all my friends
I have this. Like, that's all it is. I'm just
not convinced that it's like.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
What if they sent you one?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Well, then it would be the best thing ever, I suppose. But, like,
I do believe. Like, I'm not against it 100%, and
I'll tell you why. Because your dental health is super important,
and people kind of tend to minimize that. And it
could really be, especially having, like, really good gum health
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can be the difference between, like, living a healthy lifestyle
and not. It just can introduce all sorts of bacteria
into your body and cause heart problems down the road.
And there's definitely a correlation between health and oral health, right?
So you definitely want to make sure that you do that.
So to pay $ 500, if this thing's going to last,
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you know, five years, it could be worth it. So
that's just for like the electric toothbrush component of it.
but it also has some kind of AI technology in it,
which is supposed to recognize areas of your teeth where
you miss that need a deeper cleaning, which in theory,
if you keep missing those areas, that is where plaque
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is going to build up. And then that's where you
have an increased chance to have a cavity, right? Now,
if you're cleaning that, and they say that their studies
are showing that there's a 70% increase in catching these areas, right? Now,
all of a sudden, you're having less cavities and then
that's going to end up saving you money down the
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line going to the dentist. So like it could be,
even though it sounds outrageously expensive, like if you're a
person that goes to the dentist, let's say, and every
time you go to the dentist once a year, you
have three cavities and you don't have good health insurance
and you have to pay out of pocket for that
or something, or your health insurance gives you the silver
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ones for free and you want the white ones because
you don't want to look like 1956 mouth, right? Like,
it's very specific to the year my mom was born. Anyway, like,
not to say that my mom has that, but whatever. Regardless, like,
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you know, it will, because I know every single time
I go to the dentist, it's like a hefty, hefty
bill if something needs to get fixed. And then if it's,
worse than a cavity and you need a root canal
or you need a crown or you need, you know,
that shit really adds up, right? So if it could
keep you from having, like, let's just pretend every single
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time from now on that you go to the dentist
that you're just getting a cleaning and you no longer
have any cavities, then hell yeah, like $ 500 would be
totally worth it because it would save money in the
long term plus pain and taking off work for appointments
and things like that, so.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Like I, I see
what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I mean, if they want to send me one, I'll
experiment with it for six months and see if there's
a difference when I go to the dentist. If he's like, yo,
everything looks great. And I leave, then I'll be like,
oh hell yeah, this was worth it.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
It is an outrageous price for a toothbrush, but it's
not like your complaint about the one we use is
that it's $ 75 to do basically the same thing. The
dollar one does. I mean, This one says it has
AI that identifies gaps between the teeth, which automatically directs
a mouth, a mouth rinse towards them. And then they
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can connect the device to the, my Dyson app and
watch a live camera view of, of their mouth. Is
that going to be caught? Is somebody going to be
caught cheating on the Dyson toothbrush camera?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
I don't know, but they said, they said that the
information's kept private or whatever. And I'm just like, dude,
listen there. This is what I hate about technology so much.
And this is why I'm against like wearing those wearable
devices and stuff. It's like, there just needs to be
a separation between you as a human and your phone.
And like, I'm sorry. I just don't see the reason
why Dyson has to have access to the inside of
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my goddamn mouth. Like it's just a little much. It's just,
it's just, if there was like a sensor on it
and it wasn't like connected to anything, I'm just kind
of like, it's the same with the vacuum. Like you
don't need to have an Alexa in your house and
a camera on your vacuum. And like, you're just, you're
just like letting big brother into your world too much.
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And there just needs to be that separation.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
That reminds me of speaking of my mom and this topic,
the spy cactus that she bought for the baby.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
She comes to my house with this cactus that dances. Right.
And she starts pressing the buttons and it sings like
happy birthday or whatever. And of course he loves it.
He thinks it's like the best thing ever. So then
we're just talking and then it starts repeating everything you say.
And I'm like, cool. It's just like listening to everything
you say in your house and recording it. Probably watch
a crime be solved with one of those things in
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the future. Recording all the conversations going on in the house.
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them to our best of our... Cliff's notes. Cliff's notes.
Cliff's notes. Cliff's notes. Seriously. All right. First is from Natty.
I recently listened to an old episode where you were
talking about toenail injuries, and it transported me back to
a memory of mine as a child. I was on
summer holiday with my family at a campground in France.
It had a big swimming pool and kids club, etc.,
and the pool had a couple of big fun slides.
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These slides were usually made out of plastic curved or
circular sections. We went down them sitting or on our
front-facing forwards. I decided to go backward down the slide,
but laying on my front, so going feet first. As
I slid down, my big toenail on my left foot
caught on the seam in one of the connecting bits
of the slide and completely ripped off. I still shudder
(44:49):
to this day. I'm shuddering thinking about this. That does
sound absolutely....
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Toenail pain, fingernail and toenail pain is like the worst.
It's like up there with tooth pain.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah. You know, when you stub your toe, it just
hurts so bad. It's like, it's like one of the only,
I feel like I have extremely high pain tolerance for
when I stub my toe. I'm like, fuck. Every time
it just hurts so bad.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
So I went, I went to this party for one
of my kids.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
And it was one of those houses that they make
you take off your shoes. And I fucking hate that.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
I just hate it. I just hate it. I think
it's so dumb. I hate it.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
So especially like at a fancy party where I'm wearing
like an outfit with shoes and now I got to
walk around with fricking socks on. It's just weird. So, okay.
So I take off my shoes and I go into
their elaborate excessive dining room that has these lead like
chairs to push into the dining room table. And My kid,
(45:50):
I'm like doing something with one of the kids and
like pushing them in. And I freaking stubbed my toe
so hard on this chair that was made out of
a mixture of lead and cement. It was like, I
couldn't even move the thing. Like I couldn't pick it
up and just move it. Like you had to slide
it across the floor. It was so freaking heavy. And
I swear, like I've never, I just could not believe
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how much pain I was in. Like I wanted to cry.
I really wanted to cry. It hurts so bad. Like
that rarely has happened to me. And I still think
to this day, like I possibly broke my toe or something.
I mean, it was purple and my toenail turned black
and it fell off and it just was, it was
just so horrible. And I didn't even really realize at
(46:33):
the time. And then, you know, I go home and
the next morning I took off my sock and was like, oh, okay,
well that makes sense why it hurts so bad because
there's hemorrhage all over my foot right now. It's like
something really bad happened. And I was so pissed because
I was like, I should have had.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
My shoes on.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
This would not have happened if I had my shoes on.
So I like, I'm not used to walking around in socks.
So it just, it just like, it's their fault. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, a lot of people are like that. Like
I'm in the mentality. If you want to live like
that every day, that's fine. But if you're having like
people over you, it's like that episode of sex in
the city where they make Carrie take off her shoes
and then somebody steals her Manolo blottings. Right. Like, I
think there's certain exceptions you could probably have in your
house that if you're having parties or something, you don't
have to make everybody take their shoes off. Nobody wants
(47:20):
to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Yeah. I just and like if I if I so
happen to be wearing like a pair of loafers and
I have socks on, it's like a little bit better.
But like oftentimes, especially starting soon for the whole entire,
you know, fall and winter, I'm going to be wearing boots, right?
And then it's like, oh, I have to untie my
(47:43):
boots and take them off. But also, what if you're
not wearing socks?
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
I mean, a lot of times when I wear loafers
and stuff, I'm not wearing socks. So it is just weird.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
I don't– and, like, I think it's funny that people
would rather have my disgusting bare feet on their floor
instead of shoes. That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (48:01):
I'd rather have outside dirt than someone's nasty-ass foot.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
I just don't– I don't go by the germ theory
like that. I just think that it's ridiculous and, like, that's,
you know– and I'm correct because, like, we don't get
sick like that. So it's not, like, you know– I mean,
it's definitely– I think I could see if you don't
want to wash your floors all the time that it brings–
It definitely brings dirt into the house for sure. And
(48:26):
the kids, I make them take off, especially like there's
like mud and stuff embedded in the bottom of their shoe.
I won't let them wear them in, but.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Like, should I not wear shoes in the baby's room
because some idiot bought a white and orange checkered rug? Yes.
But guess what? I didn't. He's three months old. That's
my fault, though. But whatever. All right, next is from Ashley.
Have you ever found old chewing gum inside someone? Does
it really stay for years? Ricky also wanted to know
(48:56):
if this applied to the myth of maraschino cherries.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I never even heard of that.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Yeah, there's stories that they stay in your bodies for years. Really? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
No, nothing does. Unless it's a foreign body. Like hair
accumulates and doesn't get digested. But usually when people do that,
they do it excessively and then it becomes an obstruction
and then they have to get surgery to get it removed.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
A bezoar.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, any kind of bezoar like that. The only thing
that I ever got that was inside of someone's body
for years was a gift bag that was in someone's... Yeah,
I know that sounds bizarre. sounds really bizarre someone ate
a gift bag that's that was in someone's stomach for
years but um and it was like one of those
(49:48):
ones that are coated you know they're like shiny so
there was something in it that that the stomach because
like normally if it was just paper the body would
break that down eventually but this was like some kind
of plastic that it just was small enough of a
piece that it just kind of went to the side
and never really caused this person problems which is really
(50:08):
unusual and crazy. But yeah, chewing gum, no, never, ever.
No matter how many autopsies I've done, surgical specimens, opening
colons full of poop, anything, I've never, ever, ever seen
chewing gum. I mean, it's gone by the time it
even leaves your stomach. I've never seen it.
Speaker 2 (50:29):
So I guess the greater conspiracy is why don't they
want to swallow in gum? What's the difference? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
I mean, maybe, maybe I'm just, I'm not sure. Like
they would say it. So like, I understand this one.
Cause when they say to kids, I remember when I
was a kid, when there was no such thing as
like a seedless watermelon, right. They all had black seeds
in them. They would say like, don't eat the seeds
because you're going to grow a watermelon in your stomach,
which is definitely not going to happen. But like, If
(51:01):
you eat, I do have a couple cases in the
grocery room too of people eating like pomegranate is a
good example of something that like, because you're not supposed
to eat those, you know, you're supposed to chew them
and spit them out. Sunflower seeds, like you're supposed to,
you're not supposed to eat the shell of the sunflower seed, right?
So if you are a person like me that just
obsessively eats like one thing at a time, so like
(51:24):
you know, if my kick of the week is, I
don't even know what to say it is. Like, I'll
just eat that all day.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
I'll eat that.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
This is what happened. Why I had such extreme GI problems.
Cause I ate 6,000 tomatoes.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
You know what mine is right now?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Bread and butter pickles. I'm just eating so many. And zucchini. Well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
So like if you, if you do something like that, Like,
for example, when I ate, you know, 6,000 tomatoes, all
of a sudden I was having like my GERD acted
up so bad because I had way too much stomach acid, right? Well,
if you're a person that wants to house like multiple
bags of sunflower seeds and you eat the shell too,
(52:05):
then that will accumulate and cause like a bezoar of
like wood essentially inside of your intestines and it'll cause
an obstruction.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Right.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
I think if you have a handful of them and
you eat them, you'll be fine. But it could be
with like pomegranates and like all different sorts of, so
the same with watermelon seeds, things like that. Like if
you eat a ton of watermelon too. So like, it's
just like a moderation thing with that. But, and like,
obviously like corn doesn't digest either, right? So you shouldn't
(52:36):
eat like a shit ton of corn like that at
one time either. But like, I've never seen anything else
that you're like, Why is this here? What is this?
And like, there's plenty of people that get surgeries all
the time that don't know that they're getting surgery. Because
let's say, for example, they have like a ruptured diverticulitis
(52:57):
or something, right? Like they woke up in the morning
and for four days before that, they didn't know that
they were going to have that. So they have this
immense pain. They go to the hospital and they say,
oh my God, you have a perforation of your bowel
and we need to take this section of your bowel out. Well,
that person doesn't have a bowel prep, so they're full
of poop still. Like everything they ate the day before. Like,
(53:21):
you know, whenever you get a surgery or colonoscopy, they
make you clean out because of that, right? Especially if
you have a colon cancer and you have a planned surgery.
Or if you have diverticulitis that's just like angry, but
it's not perforated yet. Like they give you, they make
you clean out. So when we get it in pathology,
you open it up and it's like totally clear. There's
(53:41):
no poop in it. But sometimes there's so much, so
part of this job is going through a lot of poop.
So I've been through a lot of poop, and I
just never have seen chewing gum or maraschino cherries.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
You know, I used to eat the sunflower shells when
I was a little kid, and I vividly remember being
at our apartment on 4th and Spruce, and one got
stuck in my gums so bad, and it hurt so bad.
And what was I, like seven when we lived there?
I will never forget this. And you were, like, pulling
it out of my mouth and back through it. And
(54:13):
then I never ate that ever again. I was like,
this was torturous.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
All right, last. This is from Jackie. What's the largest
foreign body you've ever had in gross pathology? So I
guess you had the gift bag, but was that the largest? No,
that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
I would say.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
Probably.
Speaker 1 (54:32):
I haven't really had any crazy ones.
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Like, I mean... Really.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
And I guess like if I was talking to anybody,
you would say, yeah, that's pretty crazy, whatever. But the
biggest thing that I've ever had is like a huge dildo,
like an extra huge, not anywhere near the size of
one that you would think of. But I've had like
friends of mine, like one of our friends got like
(54:59):
a huge mag light one time from someone's rectum. So,
I mean, think about that. Have you ever, like, held
one of those things? They're freaking heavy and huge.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
Someone we know, I'll tell you after, just had to
remove one of those giant octopus tentacles dildos out of somebody,
and it was, like, stuck, and they had to be
transferred to another hospital for surgery. They were in surgery for, like,
nine hours and couldn't get it out.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, I mean, I imagine that. It's just, it's awful.
And one of the It's funny that we're talking about
this because another article had come up recently about like
sex therapists talking about sex toys that you could use
from around the house. And I feel like we talked
about this on a past episode before.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
We did because remember it was saying to hump your
couch arm and you were like, who.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
The hell does that? Yeah. This one was equally as weird. First,
talking about toothbrushes, it was saying to use your electric
toothbrush and as like a vibrator. This person was like,
get some spoons and spatulas out of your kitchen and
have fun with them. And I'm like, I don't think like,
I never look at a spatula and be like, oh,
(56:11):
I really want to stick that up my vag. Like
that's exactly.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
What I'm thinking right now.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
I wasn't thinking a wood one. I was thinking a
silicone one, but still. And then it was, and then
it was saying, oh, you could use a cucumber or banana,
but make sure you put a condom on it because it,
you know, it could have bacteria on it and you
don't want to mess up the bacteria. And I'm just like,
who is going to put a condom, they're by their
self and you're going to put a condom on a cucumber? Like,
(56:39):
that sounds real fun.
Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:41):
It's, it's too many steps. So. And the toothbrush, like,
and what if you use somebody else's toothbrush? Like, no,
I don't want to think about anybody using my toothbrush
at all for anything.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Well, that EMT was using other people's toothbrushes.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
I know, well.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
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