May 25, 2026 • 10 mins
Abby and Steph give us the Gen Z perspective on dating and whether or not the man should pay on the first date.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Get your together.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to start and I'm ready to party.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Elvis j Ran after party. Hey hey, oh yeah,
we could do that one, but I also have another one.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You're prepared, loaded as they say, yeah, huh uh. So
we've got a lot of people joining us, Scotty, b
uh busy. In the other room, Garrett is joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Danielle Scary is trying to figure out the button.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And Garrett right, yes, Garrett, all right, what do you
got for?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's there?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Andy k Okay, do you want to play a game
or do you want to know my question?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Question? Let's questions.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Give us the question and then we'll decide.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, the question is is splitting the bill fake or fair?
Or is it fake equality?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Good question? Where you're going splitting the bill with? Wait
on a date?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Could be first date, could be or in the relationship. Now,
is it fair to split the bill or is it like? No,
you keep the money, I don't want you to pay.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I can go go. I will always pay the bill.
I would never split with a date, and I will
never ask them to pay. Ever, there's no other way,
even me.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Thank you, Scotty, you just you can't. What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Can you vendo? Be half?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I told you what happened to me at the movie
theaters that one time.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Yeah, I was on a first date and I paid
for the He paid for the tickets, and I offered
him the money, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Hey, do you want me to go?
Speaker 8 (01:37):
Has to want, you know, And at first he said no,
you know whatever whatever. Then he's online and he says
to me, I want milk duds. I said, okay, you'll
get milk stuts and he actually said, I'm not even
kidding you. Hey, you know that money you owe me
for the ticket, You know you could you could use
that to get me milk done.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
First and last time I ever went out with that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh lord, I.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Was like, you gotta be kidding me right now.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you like when somebody picks I mean, obviously you're married, so,
but do you split anything with Sheldon?
Speaker 8 (02:05):
Well, no, because it's the same money now, so really,
but sometimes I'll say I got it, and I just
pay for it and feel say I got it. He
pays most of the time, but at the end of
the day, it's both our money, so it's kind of like,
does it make a difference, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, so it's been so long since somebody else has
bought me a meal or drinks.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Say, less I got you, I would put out. But
you know what, depending on the vibe goes during that lunch.
If we're having like really clicking, I'll be like, all right,
I'll pay for it. But if you and I are
not seeing eye to eye and we're like, I'll be like,
all right, you know, split it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So that's my rule. When I when I started dating
a lot, it was, okay, you go to dinner, and
then the guy pays. I would always pay, but then
I realized I was wasting a lot of money on dinner,
so I would go just do drinks. I would have
one drink, and of course I would pay, and then
if I liked it, it would be a second drink
(03:00):
and I would also pay. And then it might transition
to dinner, which I would also pay that as well, but.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It would just be limited at that first drink.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
If it didn't go well, I knew, okay, I was
only out twenty bucks or whatever for drinks. But that's
not to say I wouldn't mind somebody doing the fake reach,
you know, like, oh, we're gonna be oh, hang yeah,
hang out my purse here, like, yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I would love to see that. Of course I'm gonna
say no, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's interesting because they're saying roughly forty one percent of
gen Z is preferring to split the dates, citing a
preference for equity, according to data from Life Happens.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh god, maybe we should get a let's.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Get what's your name is?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Steph?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, but scared that, I mean your.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You come in here money.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
She wants you to pay.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
But remember Scary Scary would lose so much money on
first dates because you would pay for concerts.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Oh yeah, Well Scary's problem was is that all these girls,
and he'll admit it, wanted to go to the concerts,
wanted this, wanted that, and then they wouldn't give him
what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
So he members no second date.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
No, no, no, no, no. Listen to me.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I My rule was always if you if you're if
I'm going out with you and I'm taking you out
and I'm paying for dinner date number one, date number two,
date number three. Once we get to date number five
and we're just having dinner, that's.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It's like three.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
In my twenties it was five, but then now in
my thirties it was more like now three and out,
three and out.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Okay, it became less.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
We have some gen Z people in here soon, and
would you would you please read that stat that you
just did about the forty.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So of gen Z prefers to split the date, citing
a preference for equity, And so do you feel that
splitting the bill if you're on a first date is fair?
Would you like to split the bill with your date?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Or no? Well, as soon as I get he am
I connected, then she'll give you an ask.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, So just to use this time to.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
To think to think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I don't need to think either.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Okay, Steph, Steph, you answer first step absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I don't care about equality in this case you're paying.
S's gonna say I got no money, dude, I have money?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You do?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I want a man? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Makes you a man?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Follow follow up question, Steph, we'll get your microphone working
here in a second, Abbey follow up question, how many
dates until you offer to pay with that same person?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I've offered on the first day, but I'm really
hoping that they can pull.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
This out, you do the alligator arms, You're like you're
you're expecting them to pay.
Speaker 9 (05:39):
It's like the TikTok when I go into my person,
It's like, oh, yeah, I was just going for my
lip gloss.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I can't find.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I always pre I always appreciate a good fake wallet reach.
But I'll never ever, I'll never let you. I won't.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But that was a different question than what you was
coming up in the yes, So let's move on to that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Back to Abbie, Abby, Abbie, same question.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
We're going back to first date. Are you no?
Speaker 9 (06:11):
And it's not even that I don't. It's not even
because I want someone to pay for me. It's just
more so the gesture, like if you're willing to do that,
I think it's more important to me than actually paying.
And like I I hate when people pay for things
for me. I hate like owing someone money. But I
do think I don't know. I just think on the
first date, it's more about the gesture than how much
it costs. I'll never order like anything crazy or I'll
(06:33):
make sure that it's not bad, and like I will
always offer to pay after that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I don't expect to pay, not on the first date. No,
I agree with her.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Have you guys ever.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Paid on a first date?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh yea red flag?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
What if you asked them out? Like if it was
you that said, hey, do you want to go out
and get something to eat?
Speaker 8 (06:54):
I don't never don Okay, okay, so go ahead, I have,
but I still expect them to pay.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I agree with her. Wait, i'm with her. I'm
with stef.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You asked the person out and then you expect them
to pay.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I saved them. They didn't have to ask me.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I harbor.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
She's great. Yes, Wait where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Do you remember?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Just coffee? And it didn't work out?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But what if? Okay, so what if?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
What if a guy is asking you out for dinner
and then you go out for dinner and you had
a great dinner, and then he asked you out again
and again and again, and you continue to go out
to dinner with this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Are you what's going through your mind? I'm just getting
free dinners from this guy and that's it.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Are you interested in the guy? Are you?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Will you have dinner with a guy I knowing that
there's no hope.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
For the future with you unless there is an actual chance.
I like you if I'm at dinner with you, that
means I actually consider it.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's amazing, wonderful.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I know Abby was gonna say that, Abby like the
girl she is.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
I mean, I don't like, I'm not gonna, you know,
take advantage of people. But also at the same time,
I have very little free time. Am I spending it
with a man?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
But I don't you know why he asks that, because
that's happened to him so many.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Times where girls took such advantage and we all had
to say, scary, she is not in this because she
likes you.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
You have to let her go.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
When he would, but she just kept accepting dinners. And
the third or fourth time, I'm like, what's going on here?
And I had to cut bait after the fifth, right,
five dinners they got out of me. It was several
years ago, and then I cut it off at three.
But but my thing is, why accept a dinner?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You guys, you obviously are not those kinds of girls
that will accept dinners unless you feel that there could
be a future.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Right, I value my time, Like, I'm not just going
to do that.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
I was gonna say, like, I do that out of
one respect, because I'm not someone that will take advantage
of people, but also like selfishly, I value my time.
Why am I spending it with someone I don't think
I have a chance with and no offense like free
food is not worth sitting there and talking to someone
that you like. Having to put on a show for
someone for like an hour, like asking questions and stuff
sounds really.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I've been several women's grub Hub.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
And Ticketmaster.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Switching to concerts, I feel like the answer there may
be a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
What let's let's save that for the next podcast. To
join us for the next podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Of course, Oh my god, this is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
More with what do.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
We want to call them?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
The Dynamic duo?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
More of the Dynamic Duo the next time we do
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Thank you
Speaker 5 (10:00):
The elvester Ran after Party.
Get your together.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to start and I'm ready to party.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
The Elvis j Ran after party. Hey hey, oh yeah,
we could do that one, but I also have another one.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
You're prepared, loaded as they say, yeah, huh uh. So
we've got a lot of people joining us, Scotty, b
uh busy. In the other room, Garrett is joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Danielle Scary is trying to figure out the button.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And Garrett right, yes, Garrett, all right, what do you
got for?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's there?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Andy k Okay, do you want to play a game
or do you want to know my question?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Question? Let's questions.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
Give us the question and then we'll decide.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, the question is is splitting the bill fake or fair?
Or is it fake equality?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Good question? Where you're going splitting the bill with? Wait
on a date?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Could be first date, could be or in the relationship. Now,
is it fair to split the bill or is it like? No,
you keep the money, I don't want you to pay.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
I can go go. I will always pay the bill.
I would never split with a date, and I will
never ask them to pay. Ever, there's no other way,
even me.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Thank you, Scotty, you just you can't. What are you
gonna do?
Speaker 7 (01:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Can you vendo? Be half?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I told you what happened to me at the movie
theaters that one time.
Speaker 8 (01:29):
Yeah, I was on a first date and I paid
for the He paid for the tickets, and I offered
him the money, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Hey, do you want me to go?
Speaker 8 (01:37):
Has to want, you know, And at first he said no,
you know whatever whatever. Then he's online and he says
to me, I want milk duds. I said, okay, you'll
get milk stuts and he actually said, I'm not even
kidding you. Hey, you know that money you owe me
for the ticket, You know you could you could use
that to get me milk done.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
First and last time I ever went out with that guy.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh lord, I.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Was like, you gotta be kidding me right now.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Do you like when somebody picks I mean, obviously you're married, so,
but do you split anything with Sheldon?
Speaker 8 (02:05):
Well, no, because it's the same money now, so really,
but sometimes I'll say I got it, and I just
pay for it and feel say I got it. He
pays most of the time, but at the end of
the day, it's both our money, so it's kind of like,
does it make a difference, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, so it's been so long since somebody else has
bought me a meal or drinks.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Say, less I got you, I would put out. But
you know what, depending on the vibe goes during that lunch.
If we're having like really clicking, I'll be like, all right,
I'll pay for it. But if you and I are
not seeing eye to eye and we're like, I'll be like,
all right, you know, split it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So that's my rule. When I when I started dating
a lot, it was, okay, you go to dinner, and
then the guy pays. I would always pay, but then
I realized I was wasting a lot of money on dinner,
so I would go just do drinks. I would have
one drink, and of course I would pay, and then
if I liked it, it would be a second drink
(03:00):
and I would also pay. And then it might transition
to dinner, which I would also pay that as well, but.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It would just be limited at that first drink.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
If it didn't go well, I knew, okay, I was
only out twenty bucks or whatever for drinks. But that's
not to say I wouldn't mind somebody doing the fake reach,
you know, like, oh, we're gonna be oh, hang yeah,
hang out my purse here, like, yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I would love to see that. Of course I'm gonna
say no, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It's interesting because they're saying roughly forty one percent of
gen Z is preferring to split the dates, citing a
preference for equity, according to data from Life Happens.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
Oh god, maybe we should get a let's.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Get what's your name is?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Steph?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, but scared that, I mean your.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You come in here money.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
She wants you to pay.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
But remember Scary Scary would lose so much money on
first dates because you would pay for concerts.
Speaker 8 (03:50):
Oh yeah, Well Scary's problem was is that all these girls,
and he'll admit it, wanted to go to the concerts,
wanted this, wanted that, and then they wouldn't give him
what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
So he members no second date.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
No, no, no, no, no. Listen to me.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I My rule was always if you if you're if
I'm going out with you and I'm taking you out
and I'm paying for dinner date number one, date number two,
date number three. Once we get to date number five
and we're just having dinner, that's.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It's like three.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
In my twenties it was five, but then now in
my thirties it was more like now three and out,
three and out.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Okay, it became less.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
We have some gen Z people in here soon, and
would you would you please read that stat that you
just did about the forty.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
So of gen Z prefers to split the date, citing
a preference for equity, And so do you feel that
splitting the bill if you're on a first date is fair?
Would you like to split the bill with your date?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Or no? Well, as soon as I get he am
I connected, then she'll give you an ask.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Okay, So just to use this time to.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
To think to think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I don't need to think either.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Okay, Steph, Steph, you answer first step absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I don't care about equality in this case you're paying.
S's gonna say I got no money, dude, I have money?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
You do?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I want a man? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Makes you a man?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Follow follow up question, Steph, we'll get your microphone working
here in a second, Abbey follow up question, how many
dates until you offer to pay with that same person?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I've offered on the first day, but I'm really
hoping that they can pull.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
This out, you do the alligator arms, You're like you're
you're expecting them to pay.
Speaker 9 (05:39):
It's like the TikTok when I go into my person,
It's like, oh, yeah, I was just going for my
lip gloss.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
I can't find.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I always pre I always appreciate a good fake wallet reach.
But I'll never ever, I'll never let you. I won't.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But that was a different question than what you was
coming up in the yes, So let's move on to that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Back to Abbie, Abby, Abbie, same question.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
We're going back to first date. Are you no?
Speaker 9 (06:11):
And it's not even that I don't. It's not even
because I want someone to pay for me. It's just
more so the gesture, like if you're willing to do that,
I think it's more important to me than actually paying.
And like I I hate when people pay for things
for me. I hate like owing someone money. But I
do think I don't know. I just think on the
first date, it's more about the gesture than how much
it costs. I'll never order like anything crazy or I'll
(06:33):
make sure that it's not bad, and like I will
always offer to pay after that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I don't expect to pay, not on the first date. No,
I agree with her.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Have you guys ever.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
Paid on a first date?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh yea red flag?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
What if you asked them out? Like if it was
you that said, hey, do you want to go out
and get something to eat?
Speaker 8 (06:54):
I don't never don Okay, okay, so go ahead, I have,
but I still expect them to pay.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I agree with her. Wait, i'm with her. I'm
with stef.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You asked the person out and then you expect them
to pay.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
I saved them. They didn't have to ask me.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I harbor.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
She's great. Yes, Wait where'd you go?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Do you remember?
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Just coffee? And it didn't work out?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But what if? Okay, so what if?
Speaker 2 (07:34):
What if a guy is asking you out for dinner
and then you go out for dinner and you had
a great dinner, and then he asked you out again
and again and again, and you continue to go out
to dinner with this guy.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Are you what's going through your mind? I'm just getting
free dinners from this guy and that's it.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Are you interested in the guy? Are you?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Will you have dinner with a guy I knowing that
there's no hope.
Speaker 9 (08:02):
For the future with you unless there is an actual chance.
I like you if I'm at dinner with you, that
means I actually consider it.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
That's amazing, wonderful.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
I know Abby was gonna say that, Abby like the
girl she is.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
I mean, I don't like, I'm not gonna, you know,
take advantage of people. But also at the same time,
I have very little free time. Am I spending it
with a man?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
But I don't you know why he asks that, because
that's happened to him so many.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
Times where girls took such advantage and we all had
to say, scary, she is not in this because she
likes you.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
You have to let her go.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
When he would, but she just kept accepting dinners. And
the third or fourth time, I'm like, what's going on here?
And I had to cut bait after the fifth, right,
five dinners they got out of me. It was several
years ago, and then I cut it off at three.
But but my thing is, why accept a dinner?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Now?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You guys, you obviously are not those kinds of girls
that will accept dinners unless you feel that there could
be a future.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Right, I value my time, Like, I'm not just going
to do that.
Speaker 9 (09:08):
I was gonna say, like, I do that out of
one respect, because I'm not someone that will take advantage
of people, but also like selfishly, I value my time.
Why am I spending it with someone I don't think
I have a chance with and no offense like free
food is not worth sitting there and talking to someone
that you like. Having to put on a show for
someone for like an hour, like asking questions and stuff
sounds really.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I've been several women's grub Hub.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
And Ticketmaster.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That's okay.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Switching to concerts, I feel like the answer there may
be a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
What let's let's save that for the next podcast. To
join us for the next podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Of course, Oh my god, this is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
More with what do.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
We want to call them?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
The Dynamic duo?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
More of the Dynamic Duo the next time we do
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Thank you
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