May 25, 2026 • 10 mins
Abby and Steph give us the Gen Z perspective on dating and whether or not the man should pay on the first date!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Put your hands together.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to start to part I'm ready to party.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
The Elvis Duran after party.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Andrew, Hey, hey, you gave us something here for the
podcast today.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh yeah, we could do that one, but I also
have another one. You're prepared, as they say, yeah, yeah,
huh uh.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So we've got a lot of people joining us. Scotti
b uh busy in the other room. Garrett is joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Danielle Scary is uh trying to figure out the button.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And Garrett right, yes, Garrett, all right, what do you
got for? It's there? Andy Kine?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, do you want to play a game or do
you want to know my question?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Question? Let's do a questions.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Give us the question and then we'll decide.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, the question is is splitting the bill fake or fair?
Or is it fake equality?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh? Good question.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Wait, I see where you're going. Splitting the bill with.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
On a date could be first date, could be here
in the relationship. Now is it fair to split the
bill or is it like? No, you keep the money,
I don't want you to pay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can go go. I will always pay the bill.
I would never split with a date, and I will
never ask them to pay. Ever, there's no other way,
even me. Thank you, Scotty, you can't.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Oh? Can you vend one? We have?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I told you what happened to me at the movie
theaters that one time.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It was on a first date and I paid for
the He paid for the tickets, and I offered him
the money, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Hey, do you want me to go?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Has to want, you know, And at first he said no,
you know, whatever, whatever. Then he's online and he says
to me, I want milk duds. I said, okay, you'll
get milk stuts and he actually said, I'm not even
kidding you. Hey, you know that money you owe me
for the ticket, You know you could you could use
that to get me milk done.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
First and last time I ever went out with that gap.
Oh lord, I was like, you gotta be kidding me
right now?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, do you like when somebody picks I mean, obviously
you're married, so, but do you split anything with Sheldon?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well no, because it's the same money now, so really,
but sometimes I'll say I got it and I just
pay for it, and he'll say I got it. He
pays most of the time, but at the end of
the day, it's both our money. So it's kind of like,
does it make a difference, you know, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's been so long since somebody else has bought me
a meal or drinks.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Say, less I got you, I would put out.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
But you know what, depending on the vibe goes during
that lunch. If we're having like really clicking, I'll be like,
all right, I'll pay for it. But if you and
I are not seeing eye to eye and we're like,
I'll be like, all right, you know, that's split it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So that's my rule. When I when I started dating
a lot, it was, okay, you go to dinner, and
then the guy pays. I would always pay, But then
I realized I was wasting a lot of money on dinner,
so I would go just do drinks. I would have
one drink, and of course I would and then if
I liked it, it would be a second drink and
(03:04):
I would also pay, and then it might transition to dinner,
which I would also pay that as well, but it
would just be limited at that first drink. If it
didn't go well, I knew, okay, I was only out
twenty bucks or whatever for drinks, but that's not to
say I wouldn't mind somebody doing the fake reach, you know, like, oh,
we're gonna be h hang out, yeah, hang out? Thought
(03:28):
my purse here, Like yeah, that'd be great. I would
love to see that. Of course I'm gonna say no, no,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's interesting because they're saying roughly forty one percent of
gen Z is preferring to split the dates, citing a
preference for equity, according to data from Life Happens.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh god, maybe we should get a let's get what's
your name is?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Steph?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:45):
But scared that?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean, you're for can you come in here?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
More money? She wants you to pay?
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But remember Scary Scary would lose so much money on
first dates because you would pay for concerts.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Oh yeah, Well Scary's problem was is that all these girls,
and he'll admit it, wanted to go the concerts, wanted this,
wanted that, and then they wouldn't give him what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
So he members scared. No second date.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Scared, No, no, no, no, no, listen to me. I My
rule was always if you if you're if I'm going
out with you, and I'm taking you out and I'm
paying for dinner date number one, Date number two, Date
number three. Once we get to date number five and
we're just having dinner, that's it.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like three.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
In my twenties it was five, but then now in
my thirties it was more like now three and out,
three and out.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, it became less.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We have some gen Z people in here soon, and
would you would you please read that stat that you
just did about the forty one percent.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So for of gen Z prefers to split the date,
citing a preference for equity. And so do you feel
that splitting the bill if you're on a first date
is fair? Would you like to split the bill with
your date?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, as soon as I get how am I connected?
And she'll give you an ask.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Okay, So just to use this time to to think to.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, I don't need to think either.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, Steph, Steph, you answer first.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Step absolutely not. I don't care about equality in this case.
You're paying. Say I got no money, dude to pay?
I have money, you do.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I want a man?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
That makes you a man?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Follow follow up question, Steph.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
We'll get your microphone working here in a second Abbey
follow up question, how many dates until you offer to
pay with that same person?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Well, I've offered on the first date, but I'm really
hoping that they can pull this out.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Do you do the alligator arms? You're like, you're you're
expecting them to pay.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's like the TikTok when I go into my person.
It's like, oh, yeah, I was just going for my
lip gloss I can't find.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I always pre u I always appreciate a good fake
wallet reach, but I'll never ever allow it. I'll let you.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I won't.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But that was a different question than what you was
coming up in the yes, So let's move on to that.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Back to Abbie Abby Abbey, same question. We're going back
to first date, are you no?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
No? And it's not even that I don't It's not
even because I want someone to pay for me. It's
just more so the gesture, like if you're willing to
do that, I think is more important to me than
actually paying. And like I I hate when people pay
for things for me. I hate like owing someone money.
But I do think I don't know. I just think
on the first date, it's more about the gesture than
how much it costs I'll never order like anything crazy
(06:37):
or I'll make sure that it's not bad, and like
I will always offer to pay after.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That, I don't expect to pay.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Not on the first date.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
No, I agree with her.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Have you guys ever.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Paid on a first date?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
A red flag?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
If?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
What if you asked them out? Like if it was
you that said, hey, do you want to go out
and get something to eat?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was that.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
I' never don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Okay, okay, so go ahead, I have but I still
expect them to pay.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, I agree with her. I'm with her. I'm steff.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You asked the person out and then you expect them
to pay.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I saved them. They didn't have to ask me.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I have harbor.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
She's great.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yes, Wait where's where'd you go? Do you remember? Just coffee?
And it didn't work out? But what if?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, so what if? What if a guy is asking
you out for dinner and then you go out for
dinner and you had a great dinner, and then he
asked you out again and again and again, and you
continue to go out to dinner with this guy. Are you?
Are you? What's going through your mind? I'm just getting
(07:58):
free dinners from this guy, and that's it. Are you
interested in the guy? You will you have dinner with
a guy knowing that there's no hope for.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The future.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
With you unless there is an actual chance I like you.
If I'm at dinner with you, that means I actually
consider it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's amazing, wonderful.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I know Abby was gonna say that Abby like the girl.
She is the one.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I mean, I don't like, I'm not gonna, you know,
take advantage of people. But also at the same time,
I have very little free time. Am I spending it
with a man?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know why he asks that, because that's happened to
him so many times where girls took such advantage, and
we all had to say, scary, she is not in
this because she likes you.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
You have to let her go when he would but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
She just kept accepting dinners. And after the third or
fourth time, I'm like, what's going on here? And I
had to cut bait after the fifth, right, five dinners
they got out of me. It was several years ago,
and then I cut it off at three. But but
my thing is, why accept a dinner?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You guys, you obviously are not those kinds of girls
that will accept dinners unless you feel that there could
be a future, right.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I value my time, Like I'm not just going to
do that.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I was gonna say, like, I do that out of
one respect because I'm not someone that will take advantage
of people, but also like selfishly, I value my time.
Why am I spending it with someone I don't think
I have a chance with and no offense, like free
food is not worth sitting there and talking to someone
that you like. Having to put on a show for
someone for like an hour, like asking questions and stuff
sounds really.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I've been several Women's grub Hub, just Ticketmaster, that's okay.
Switching to concerts, I feel like the answer may be
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What let's let's save that for the next podcast. To
join us for the next podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Of course, Oh my god, this is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
More with what do we want to call them?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
The Dynamic Duo?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
More of the Dynamic Duo the next time we do
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
The Elvis Duran after Party
Put your hands together.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're going to start to part I'm ready to party.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
The Elvis Duran after party.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Andrew, Hey, hey, you gave us something here for the
podcast today.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Oh yeah, we could do that one, but I also
have another one. You're prepared, as they say, yeah, yeah,
huh uh.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
So we've got a lot of people joining us. Scotti
b uh busy in the other room. Garrett is joining us.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Danielle Scary is uh trying to figure out the button.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We're good, We're good.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And Garrett right, yes, Garrett, all right, what do you
got for? It's there? Andy Kine?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Okay, do you want to play a game or do
you want to know my question?
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Question? Let's do a questions.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Give us the question and then we'll decide.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Okay, the question is is splitting the bill fake or fair?
Or is it fake equality?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Oh? Good question.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Wait, I see where you're going. Splitting the bill with.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
On a date could be first date, could be here
in the relationship. Now is it fair to split the
bill or is it like? No, you keep the money,
I don't want you to pay.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can go go. I will always pay the bill.
I would never split with a date, and I will
never ask them to pay. Ever, there's no other way,
even me. Thank you, Scotty, you can't.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (01:30):
Oh? Can you vend one? We have?
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I told you what happened to me at the movie
theaters that one time.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
It was on a first date and I paid for
the He paid for the tickets, and I offered him
the money, right, I said.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Hey, do you want me to go?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Has to want, you know, And at first he said no,
you know, whatever, whatever. Then he's online and he says
to me, I want milk duds. I said, okay, you'll
get milk stuts and he actually said, I'm not even
kidding you. Hey, you know that money you owe me
for the ticket, You know you could you could use
that to get me milk done.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
First and last time I ever went out with that gap.
Oh lord, I was like, you gotta be kidding me
right now?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, do you like when somebody picks I mean, obviously
you're married, so, but do you split anything with Sheldon?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well no, because it's the same money now, so really,
but sometimes I'll say I got it and I just
pay for it, and he'll say I got it. He
pays most of the time, but at the end of
the day, it's both our money. So it's kind of like,
does it make a difference, you know, Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's been so long since somebody else has bought me
a meal or drinks.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Say, less I got you, I would put out.
Speaker 7 (02:33):
But you know what, depending on the vibe goes during
that lunch. If we're having like really clicking, I'll be like,
all right, I'll pay for it. But if you and
I are not seeing eye to eye and we're like,
I'll be like, all right, you know, that's split it.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
So that's my rule. When I when I started dating
a lot, it was, okay, you go to dinner, and
then the guy pays. I would always pay, But then
I realized I was wasting a lot of money on dinner,
so I would go just do drinks. I would have
one drink, and of course I would and then if
I liked it, it would be a second drink and
(03:04):
I would also pay, and then it might transition to dinner,
which I would also pay that as well, but it
would just be limited at that first drink. If it
didn't go well, I knew, okay, I was only out
twenty bucks or whatever for drinks, but that's not to
say I wouldn't mind somebody doing the fake reach, you know, like, oh,
we're gonna be h hang out, yeah, hang out? Thought
(03:28):
my purse here, Like yeah, that'd be great. I would
love to see that. Of course I'm gonna say no, no,
don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's interesting because they're saying roughly forty one percent of
gen Z is preferring to split the dates, citing a
preference for equity, according to data from Life Happens.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh god, maybe we should get a let's get what's
your name is?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Steph?
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (03:45):
But scared that?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I mean, you're for can you come in here?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
More money? She wants you to pay?
Speaker 7 (03:50):
But remember Scary Scary would lose so much money on
first dates because you would pay for concerts.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Oh yeah, Well Scary's problem was is that all these girls,
and he'll admit it, wanted to go the concerts, wanted this,
wanted that, and then they wouldn't give him what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
So he members scared. No second date.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Scared, No, no, no, no, no, listen to me. I My
rule was always if you if you're if I'm going
out with you, and I'm taking you out and I'm
paying for dinner date number one, Date number two, Date
number three. Once we get to date number five and
we're just having dinner, that's it.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like three.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
In my twenties it was five, but then now in
my thirties it was more like now three and out,
three and out.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Okay, it became less.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
We have some gen Z people in here soon, and
would you would you please read that stat that you
just did about the forty one percent.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
So for of gen Z prefers to split the date,
citing a preference for equity. And so do you feel
that splitting the bill if you're on a first date
is fair? Would you like to split the bill with
your date?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Well, as soon as I get how am I connected?
And she'll give you an ask.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Okay, So just to use this time to to think to.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Think about it.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
No, I don't need to think either.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, Steph, Steph, you answer first.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Step absolutely not. I don't care about equality in this case.
You're paying. Say I got no money, dude to pay?
I have money, you do.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I want a man?
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (05:22):
That makes you a man?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Follow follow up question, Steph.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
We'll get your microphone working here in a second Abbey
follow up question, how many dates until you offer to
pay with that same person?
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Well, I've offered on the first date, but I'm really
hoping that they can pull this out.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Do you do the alligator arms? You're like, you're you're
expecting them to pay.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It's like the TikTok when I go into my person.
It's like, oh, yeah, I was just going for my
lip gloss I can't find.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I always pre u I always appreciate a good fake
wallet reach, but I'll never ever allow it. I'll let you.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I won't.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
But that was a different question than what you was
coming up in the yes, So let's move on to that.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Back to Abbie Abby Abbey, same question. We're going back
to first date, are you no?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
No? And it's not even that I don't It's not
even because I want someone to pay for me. It's
just more so the gesture, like if you're willing to
do that, I think is more important to me than
actually paying. And like I I hate when people pay
for things for me. I hate like owing someone money.
But I do think I don't know. I just think
on the first date, it's more about the gesture than
how much it costs I'll never order like anything crazy
(06:37):
or I'll make sure that it's not bad, and like
I will always offer to pay after.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
That, I don't expect to pay.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Not on the first date.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
No, I agree with her.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Have you guys ever.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
Paid on a first date?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
A red flag?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
If?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
What if you asked them out? Like if it was
you that said, hey, do you want to go out
and get something to eat?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
It was that.
Speaker 7 (06:59):
I' never don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Okay, okay, so go ahead, I have but I still
expect them to pay.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, I agree with her. I'm with her. I'm steff.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
You asked the person out and then you expect them
to pay.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I saved them. They didn't have to ask me.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I have harbor.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
She's great.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yes, Wait where's where'd you go? Do you remember? Just coffee?
And it didn't work out? But what if?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, so what if? What if a guy is asking
you out for dinner and then you go out for
dinner and you had a great dinner, and then he
asked you out again and again and again, and you
continue to go out to dinner with this guy. Are you?
Are you? What's going through your mind? I'm just getting
(07:58):
free dinners from this guy, and that's it. Are you
interested in the guy? You will you have dinner with
a guy knowing that there's no hope for.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
The future.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
With you unless there is an actual chance I like you.
If I'm at dinner with you, that means I actually
consider it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's amazing, wonderful.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
I know Abby was gonna say that Abby like the girl.
She is the one.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I mean, I don't like, I'm not gonna, you know,
take advantage of people. But also at the same time,
I have very little free time. Am I spending it
with a man?
Speaker 5 (08:28):
But I do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You know why he asks that, because that's happened to
him so many times where girls took such advantage, and
we all had to say, scary, she is not in
this because she likes you.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
You have to let her go when he would but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
She just kept accepting dinners. And after the third or
fourth time, I'm like, what's going on here? And I
had to cut bait after the fifth, right, five dinners
they got out of me. It was several years ago,
and then I cut it off at three. But but
my thing is, why accept a dinner?
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You guys, you obviously are not those kinds of girls
that will accept dinners unless you feel that there could
be a future, right.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I value my time, Like I'm not just going to
do that.
Speaker 6 (09:12):
I was gonna say, like, I do that out of
one respect because I'm not someone that will take advantage
of people, but also like selfishly, I value my time.
Why am I spending it with someone I don't think
I have a chance with and no offense, like free
food is not worth sitting there and talking to someone
that you like. Having to put on a show for
someone for like an hour, like asking questions and stuff
sounds really.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I've been several Women's grub Hub, just Ticketmaster, that's okay.
Switching to concerts, I feel like the answer may be
a little bit different.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
What let's let's save that for the next podcast. To
join us for the next podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Of course, Oh my god, this is fantastic.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
More with what do we want to call them?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
The Dynamic Duo?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
More of the Dynamic Duo the next time we do
a podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Thank you.
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