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January 14, 2026 39 mins
Tim Benz shares his initial reactions to the massive news of Mike Tomlin decision to step down as the Steelers head coach.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
W d v E.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's for an I Heeart radio station guaranteed. Human.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
You know, it's disappointing, but I'm certainly thankful for this
group in their efforts.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
But it's a disappointing night tonight.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Coach Mike Tomlin of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Former coach of
the Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin with his postgame comments there
after Houston's defeat of the Steelers in the Wildcard Game
on Monday night. Mike Tomlin stepping down after night teen
years yesterday as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

(01:03):
It is the end of an era. And you know,
we've talked a lot off air about this. That was
a shock yesterday, no question about it. But to me,
as much as I had issues with Mike Tomlin, and
I think that a change is necessary for this organization.
And I didn't know to what degree I knew they
couldn't keep doing what they were doing.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
It obviously wasn't working.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
I would have been fine with let's get some badass
coordinators in here. Arthur Smith was a step in the
right direction, I guess away from Matt Canada, but still
not good enough. And let's get this guy a quarterback
and two coordinators and make him an overseer of the team.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
He's got good ball knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
He inspires players, but we have to stop giving him
the ability to buy the groceries to make dinner. As
Bill Parcells once said, because I thought talent assessment was
the biggest issue. So with his stepping down, I kind
of am of two minds. I feel sad about it,
and as much as I think there needs to be

(02:07):
something done, I'm sad about Mike Tomlin stepping down after
nineteen years. I can't get into the There's like a
group of Steeler fans who are very excited about this,
and the people who were chanting fire Tomlin and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know my thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
I've talked about it a lot, even during the Fire
Canada days. I thought that that was a classless look
from Steelers fans.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
It's like, keep your issues in has you know?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Uh yeah, in no way she or formed you. I
think Mike Tomlin heard those chants and he's like, dude's it.
I'm over here. As some people are asserting, Uh, this
is one of the all time great coaches in NFL history,
and his record of never having a losing season is
insanely consistent and remarkable and tough to do. And I

(02:56):
know that that became a joke for a lot of people,
and that it didn't matter to me.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Mike Tomlin is synonymous.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
With Pittsburgh Steelers football, so it's really hard to imagine
him not as the coach going forward.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Uh, Now, change is hard.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
As I said, and I'm one of my most Pittsburgh
trait is that I don't love big change like this,
But I do think it'll be good for both sides.
I do think it'll be good for Mike Tomlin. I
do think it'll be good for the Steelers, provided they
get the right coach. That being said, it is hard
to swallow. I don't know how you guys feel, but
it is weird to think of the Pittsburgh Steelers being

(03:35):
coached by anybody else not named Cower or Tomlin.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Should be easy to find the right coach. Based on
the reaction I'm seeing on social media, Yeah, oh.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah, just go to the good coach Store.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Grab one, Yes, the head Coach Emporium. They have one
in Ross Parks, Mall. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
You know, I feel like I grew up with Tomlin.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
I was still in college when he got higher and uh,
I don't know, it's it's a weird Cowra felt like
your dad a little bit, like he was a generation older,
and then you know Tomlin was like a young, cool dude.
I feel I'm sad in the in many ways, but

(04:19):
I'm also happy for Tomlin. It seemed like he, I
was saying this, Dabby before the show, seemed like you
had like no discernible hobbies. Really yeah, right, he just was,
you know, married to the job, and the job seems horrible.
It seems like ten jobs rolled into one.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think that that is well established at this point
that you know, being a an NBA coach or an
NFL coach ages you faster than the presidency.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
That being said, I don't know that he's gonna just
lay back and start like, uh, you know, like start
building ships in bottles. You know, obviously this is HMS pitifam.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I just with him having a year to go and
him stepping down like that just to me, really two
years he had.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Two years to fifty million dollars he left on the table.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Wow, So that really does leave him to what either
take time go to TV.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's going to TV.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
You think he is.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I do.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
I think he's gonna go to TV and uh and
make that money because you can make a lot of
money in TV. People want him there. It's low.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I think he sees coach Kauer who planned on going
back to coaching, by the way, and then got used
to that TV life, and he's like, Hey, nobody's telling
me I suck every Sunday. You know, there's not a
group of people that, no matter what happens or on
my ass, when I go to pump gas and I'm
making more money and uh, I can go to the gym,

(05:52):
I'm going out to dinner with friends. This is I
have a life that becomes very attractive, very fast. And
he is going to be a sought after commodity. Anybody
that would want coach Tomlin to coach for them would
have to trade for the rights for Mike Tomlin. So
the Steelers in that regard, you know, he might get
a Sean Payton situation. I can't remember what the details

(06:13):
of that trade were to Denver from the Saints.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
One to two.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Maybe yeah, so we might get something out of it
when all of a sudden done. But I don't think
he's gonna rush back into coaching. These people like talking
about him going to Miami right away because he wants to.
There's so many rumors that have to be unsubstantiated.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
He'll only coach in warm weather.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I don't, okay, all right, after nineteen years of this,
Yeah that was the straw. Yeah, yeah, I TV seems
like a good fit.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It does.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I want him next to Terry Bradshaw, as I said,
because I just want to see Terry Bradshaw looking at
Tomlin after he drops tomlinism and he looks like a
dog after you hide the ball and he's like, who's hill?
What paint the barn? What that some you know? And
then Terry's head just explodes. It's it's I don't know,

(07:09):
it's a bittersweet day, you know what I mean. I
don't know there's any even sweetness to it. It's just
like the last few years are just it just sucks.
I think the Kenny Pickett thing sent them back so
far too. It's me it's always been about talent assessment
with these guys and his that's been the first problem.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
The second thing is.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I do think he was slow to adapt to an
ever changing NFL in terms of his reliance on defense first,
but never getting a defense no matter how much you
paid for it. That looked anything like what we saw
Houston do the other night, you know, yeah, like those
guys are insanely good right now. And adding all of

(07:49):
these veterans who were on their last gasp in the
NFL who just didn't get it done with Darius Slade,
Jalen Ramsey, Patrick Peterson, Pete, Yeah, Pat Pete, it just
seemed like the list went on and on. Michael a
lot more on that. We're gonna be talking a lot
about it, obviously. Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,

(08:12):
Jeremy Fowler from ESPN that broke the story will join
us at eight forty five. Max Starks and Mark Madden.
I know, I listened to Mark for a little bit
yesterday and Mark was advocating the start will Howard next
year and tank this season theory, and he says, no,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Well, well, Howard's like, do I have to tank it?
Can I be good? It's a winner? Maybe I'll be good. Yeah,
because they might not get their quarterback this year. I'm
not sure interested to hear what Mike has to say
about things. In a shocking development yesterday, coach Tomlin stepping down.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Him stepping down just tells me that he knows something
deeper than we did. He knew, you know what I mean,
and then also that there is something potentially that maybe
looks attractive to him.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Sleeping would be my guess.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I say beyond that, because I don't think that he's
a RESTful guy now.

Speaker 6 (09:19):
He seems like a seeker.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's clear he had planned this.
He didn't lose the game and then go, you know what,
I'm done, right, It's clear to me that he was
He knew that once this season was over, he was
stepping down one way or another, because.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
That was fast.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
There's some people speculating nest whether or not Art Rooney
knew about it in advance, if he told the team.
I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
We did start to hear some names being bandied about
in the potential next coach for the Steelers a couple
of months ago, so that was a little weird, but
a lot of times that's just their agents floating names
into the press so that in case there is an
opening because maybe they heard rumblings that Tomlin might step down,
their guy.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Would be one of the first people considered.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
That's so funny to me though, It's like, then the
person who is the decision maker who has not spread
that is like, wait a second, Mike mcdale.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
Did I think Mike McDaniel bring him interview? I don't know, Cheryl, Cheryl.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Call Mike mcdale's people happy, he's here right now, Sarah, Oh, okay,
he's just waiting. There's just coaches agents just have their
their guys in the parking lot. Go upstairs, now, go upstairs,
now interview. I don't think coach Tomlin tipped his hand.
I don't I think that he surprised Art Rooney yesterday
and uh Art Rooney did a lot.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Of okay, and.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Now it's onto Chris Shula, Marcus Freeman, Brian Lauras.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Those are some of the names you keep hearing. Marcus
Freeman to me, where the hell's that coming from? Based
on what?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, people keep talking about Signetti too.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
It's like he's sixty two years old and he just
made a buttload of money, and Jacob's over there going
uh oh you're not allowed to have him.

Speaker 6 (11:15):
I thought of Jacob immediately.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
I would love to have him, though, why because he
is a total inser.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
If he stinks though, I mean, he was born in Pittsburgh.
But if he's stunk, it wouldn't I don't know, his
act would not go over.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
The highest state. Yeah, I don't know. I let the iupiece.
I mean, you know, you know fifty dude.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
I could write you a list of fifty dudes that
are Signetti adjacent right now. That, yeah, for just for
theater would be fun, great, yeaheah.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Some people are talking about the Raiders throwing a bunch
of money at Signetti and taking Fernando with him there, Jacob.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I don't know if that'll happen.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Anyways, Michael have his take on what's going on in
all the latest in a world wind day, and not just.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Pittsburgh, but in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
As legendary coach Mike Tomlin steps down, it's the end
of an era and the search is on because it's
only like ninety eight days until the draft.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Yeah, when you put it like that, it's got to
happen soon, right, Yeah, can't mess around. You gotta start
game planning here, figure out what to do abby. Uh,
well not you, I mean you can just yeah, I
am not qualifiable.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I got to be honest. Do you mean to put
that on your plan? You get luck going on?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
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Stav leads me to believe he was drunk, but I think, right, know, crazy, right,
But I always like to think about what the rideshare
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Speaker 4 (14:35):
I definitely think he's got a laundry list of incidents
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Speaker 6 (14:38):
A musician as well? Yeah, is he good?

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
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Speaker 5 (14:45):
We know he's gonna play moon Dogs this summer. He
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Speaker 3 (14:58):
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Speaker 4 (14:59):
When you said Skittles and Elijah Wood, I'm like, is
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Speaker 6 (15:33):
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Speaker 3 (15:57):
Very interesting, is it?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Very interesting?

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I don't know how many people are going to rush
to do that.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Why not blowing a horn and then you get Skittles?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Can I use your bathroom?

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Sorry, I was out last night doing the Skittles thing.
Now that's where my career is.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Now him, I can see beating up a uber driver.
I mean, things are not going good. Do you like Skittles.
I'm not a Skittles person, never have been.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, I'm if I'm gonna have sugar, I'm gonna have
chocolate me too.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
That's exactly where I am.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Although I don't mind a sweetheart or something like that
if I'm going that candy route, not a sweetheart smart yeah, sweethearts,
which were basically it's like, but that's Skittles adjacent. I
feel like, no, it is not not nexturally Yeah yeah, yeah,
you're right.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
That's like Toms what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Oh wait, no, Toms is what I like.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, sorry, I have those every Yeah, never mind the edge.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I'm just all out of sorts with the Tomlin news.
I get it. But if it was a Tom's commercial,
sign me up.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think I had a moment with things like Skittles,
but it was more like the Starburst, like I could
get down with that, and then I realized I like
my teeth.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
I'm just like, I just I can't do this.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But now I'm full into like anything that's like chocolate
peanut butter.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
I wonder where that's been my whole life.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, no, that's always been my jam. Always been a
chocolate and peanut butter person. Although right now I have
these like, uh, these gummies I'm taking in the morning
that are like like zinc and elderberry and all that
like immune system like boosters, and that thing is a
total It is a starburst. I mean, I feel like
I'm pulling a filling.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Out every morning. I'm worried it's gonna maybe I should
get another brand.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
Oh yeah, that sounds well, but you know we got
good ingredients.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
I feel like my immune systems been better the last
two years since I've been taking them than it has
been for a long long time. Yeah, so it might
be worth a filling here or there.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Is my point.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
You got to send me all these things that you're taking.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I keep trying different products and I just feel like
I'm getting hosed.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
You bought me Lion's Mane for my birthday and I've
been taking the Lions Made Good. Yeah, I wake up
every morning do the roar like you're supposed to says
it on the bottle. You know what you bought me?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Right, Okay, we are at the age now where.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
For these are gifts to each other.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
These are our gifts to each other. It is like supplements. Yeah,
I bought you supplements, and I bought you whiskey to
balance whiskey too. I have to tell you I forgot
I keep meaning to bring it to you. It fell
out of the bag for your birthday. Also bought you
an umbrella. Le it keep in your car. Oh, that's
very nice.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
We're at the point of our birthday.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
The most practical gifts, very practical.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
I bought her a snowbrush last year because she was
wiping up her car with her arm.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, that was in a broom, broom, because.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
I'm short and so whenever I can't reach the top.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Of the cars.

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Back in the day, we'll be like, here's a GIF
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Let's go party. Really, let's get a hammer, let's go
get hammered.

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Yeah, Like, here's Lyon's name, bunch of depositories and an
umbrella and they keep in your car.

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Mike Tomlin stepping down a Steelers head coach yesterday.

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with you, Randy. I don't think Mike Tomlin decided after
they lost to Houston that enough is enough for the
time being.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
But I'm not sure Art Rooney was aware beforehand. You
don't know whether he was or wasn't. Correct. Yeah, I
don't either. I guess I wouldn't be surprised either way.
There were a lot of leaks of potential coaches. As
I said earlier months ago. A lot of times that's

(20:56):
just agents smelling blood in the water and getting that
news out there.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, if we find out in the coming days that yeah,
this guy knew, and this guy knew and this guy
knew in the organization and they kept it quiet, I
would be surprised by that. But we do know this much.
Mike Tomlin went in yesterday and told Art Rooney that's that,
and then he told the team they had an open

(21:21):
locker room from one to one forty five and then
a team meeting right after that, and that's when the
team found out, and that's when the word got out.
Art Rooney, the second Steels President, issuing a statement yesterday
then included during our meeting today Coach Tomlin in for
me that he has decided to step down as our
head coach. It's hard for me to put in the
words level respect and appreciation I have for Coach Tomlin.

(21:43):
His track record of never having had a losing season
in nineteen years will likely never be duplicated. And of
all the things that happened in the nineteen years that
Mike Tomlin as the head coach, and all the reactions
he inspired, I'll never be able to wrap my head
around people criticizing that the nineteen year never having had

(22:06):
a losing season, saying it doesn't matter, and pushing it
off as a non accomplishment. It's not of the most
incredible feats in coaching history.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
I completely agree with you.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Where you and I part paths is that I think
it's significant that his coaching tree is bare.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I think that's a big deal or not. I think
it's telling.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
I think talent assessment will always have been his achilles heel.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
He believed in guys or believed he was able to.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Perform some sort of reclamation project on guys who were
just past their expiration date.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
I think that's a fair criticism. I think, and hey,
in the NFL, talent assessment is always the trick. I mean,
teams that win assess their talent correctly and they have
good talent. Teams that lose did not right. I mean,
you don't see a lot of non talented teams going
to the NFC Championship Game. But I think that was
particularly an issue in free agency and trades. You know,

(23:06):
we always talked about him playing the long game and
they would acquire somebody and it's all I went this
pro day at Georgia and we went out to dinner
eight years ago, or I liked them then. I think
he got a little too attached to people at certain times.
And yeah, they had the talent acquisition is what they
have to attack as an organization. Yes, if they're going
to get better. But one of the ways you have

(23:29):
a bad playoff record is you make the playoffs when
your quarterback options are Kenny Pickett, Mitch Trubisky, and Mason Rudolph,
and you find a way to make that work, and
then you have to go into Buffalo, or then you
have to go into Kansas City, or then you have
to go into New England, or then you have to
go in to wherever. Like he got some teams there

(23:51):
that probably that's as good as they were.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
But to me again, but if you.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Want to win the Super Bowl, you got a better
team than that.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You can't draft Kenny Pikett at number two.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
But okay, so who should be doing the talent evaluation?
That's Omar? Well, like Andy weidel Is. You know, he's
the number.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Two in the GM department and he is perceived as
the talent guy. Omar rose to his curt level as
a cap guy.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
But this is something that happened throughout time in the NFL,
and it started sort of in the parcels era where
these guys there were a couple of GM coaches, but
mostly it was like there was an personnel expertise was
separate from coaching, and then the parcels. If I'm cooking dinner,
I want to buy the groceries. Quote always stands out

(24:36):
to me.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, well, I think originally it was separate because in
the pre salary cap days, there was a lot more negotiating,
and you know, finances were a bigger deal. Now everybody
kind of spends the same, it's just what you spend
them on. So you know, if Parcels went to the
grocery store and said I'd like file a and the
GM said, well you're getting Hamburger helper, make it good?

(24:59):
You know? Uh yeah, that's the Steelers have to figure
out how to get better players. But the argument that
Mike Tomlin can't coach is farcical.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I agree, I get you know, I had my problems
with with coach T, but it wasn't I wasn't a
lop off the head guy necessarily, so much as I
think he's a great guy to oversee a football organization.
I disagreed with some of his tactics. But uh, I
don't know. I'm feeling sad today, not because I feel
like I wished him out the door. There's an element

(25:31):
that I wanted things to change, but I don't like
the way that it's being painted by a lot of
people in Steeler Nation that.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
That it's just not this.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Uniform adulation on his way out, which is what I
think it should be.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
I couldn't agree more. And one of the things I
always appreciated about him. You know how much I love
training camp. I think Mike Tomlin loves camp more than
I did. Well, yeah, he was love sharks You did
I know that? I wow, Okay, yeah that's true. You
love Sharky's more than anyway. I put more time in
listening to.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, well he was busier.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah. If attention means adulation, then you know, two thumbs.
This guy. Uh, he cared. You know the fans say
they care, he actually did. I think he cared more
than the fans cared. And he cared about coaching football.
He was a self described on many occasions football junkie.

(26:27):
You know, Danny Smith has said this over the years.
He doesn't have any hobbies. He he doesn't golf, he
doesn't do this. He just wants to coach special teams.
So he is. It's what he does. Mike tom the
same kind of guy. I think. I do think he
will be awful a TV because, as you've heard me,
if he goes there, Because as I've described him many
times over the years, he never meant a sentence. He

(26:48):
couldn't turn into two paragraphs, right, and TV is about brevity, Yeah,
and getting your point out and then moving on and uh.
He likes to wax poetic and hear the sound of
his own voice and use a bunch of words. But
I don't think this. I don't think TV is the
endgame here.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
No, I think it will be stopgap like it was
for Sean Payton.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't. I just for whatever reason, I think he
thinks he needs a reset and he's still a relatively
young guy in the coaching profession. Yeah, and you know
he could have a second career that is extensive, a
second chapter. Whatever you do. Yeah, I think he will.
I think he will, and I think he will too.
But Okay, Steeler fans, those of you who are celebrating,

(27:30):
you got it.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King, Jeremy Fowler,
who along with Adam Schefter broke the news yesterday, will
join us at eight forty five. Max Starks, Mark Madden.
We are packed to the gills with Steelers insiders talking
about the shocking news was shocking for me.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm shocked.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I was.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
It was shocked, Dodgeball.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
If we got there to that point, that would have
been one thing, But to have it happen less than
twelve hours.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
You know why.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
I was a little more than twelve hours, but you know,
shortly after the lost to Houston was a huge surprise.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
It's funny because he kind of was noncommittal when he
was asked about his future right after the game. He
was and usually he slaps that down with a little
more authority. I didn't. It didn't really register with me
at the time. Did I know about Jim's p Yeah,
I don't know if I.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Was just tired or I didn't bear.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I was in bed, but he just said, I'm still
played it yesterday. I'm still in the mindset we just lost,
and I haven't thought about any of that yet, which
usually says, hey, as long as they'll have me, I'm
I'm the guy, and I'm here and this is what
I do.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I just thought it was late and it was an
incredible ass kicking.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
It was an incredible ass kicking. That was a tough one.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I mean, Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin might have walked
out the door with that incredible ass kicking.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I don't think Aaron Rodgers is coming back to the
Steelers without my talk.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
I don't sure he might play again, but won't be
give one of them wants to continue doing what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I bet they do it, Abby, What are you talking about?
Gen Z is unplugging and it's making them happier. And
somebody decided to.

Speaker 6 (29:12):
Write about Rod Stewart's eighty year old sex life.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
Tim Bens will join us next.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
You know, this all could have been avoided if we
would have brought that woman from the Jacksonville Free Press
up here to give him a pep talk after the game.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
It's on Benz. Yes, Ben's had the opportunity to do it,
and he refused.

Speaker 10 (29:27):
Eyes forward, hands in the ten and two position. Radio cranked, Yep,
looks like you're ready to drive.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Let's get after you.

Speaker 10 (29:37):
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Speaker 4 (30:00):
It's your radio home at the Pittsford Steelers one out
two point five dv E. Mike Tomlin resigns after nineteen
years as head coach and absolute end of an era.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And I was pretty shocked by the news.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Tim Ben's brought to you by Don's Appliance joining us right
now from Tribal Live Sports and Benzi, where did you
land on the surprise scale yesterday with the news that
Mike Tomlin had decided to step down?

Speaker 9 (30:30):
Surprised because I didn't think that he would be the
one to throw in the towel if he thought that
he had any chance of competing next year, if there
was a next year that he thought was winnable and
an opportunity to do better than the year before. I

(30:50):
didn't see that as the opportunity for him to walk
away from his career. Like you know, there are two
things that could very much be at play here. I
mean there's the one, very pragmatic one that perhaps he
knew where things stood in his own mind and maybe
in the franchise's mine and went in and asked Art
if he was going to get his option picked up

(31:13):
for twenty twenty seven, and Art said, no, We're not
going to do that. He said, Okay, then I resign
that could have been one. That's the practical, pragmatic way
of looking at it, and then there's the other way
of looking at it, which there's perhaps a little bit
more meat on the bone. That's what I wrote about
this morning, which is, you know, I heard what Mike
said about getting the vibe that he didn't slap down

(31:34):
to talk about the future as quickly as possible and
the postgame press conference, but you know, I ended up
asking him the last question of that press conference, and
I got that sense too that he wasn't, as you know,
direct in talking about that. So I said, you know,
do you think you have the foundation for something that
could be better next year?

Speaker 3 (31:54):
And he answered in the affirmative.

Speaker 9 (31:56):
So I was like, all right, well, it sounds like
he's at least thinking about next year. I don't know
what it could have been in those fourteen hours that
made him suddenly had the epiphany that it was going
to be better in twenty twenty six than twenty twenty five.
I don't know what that could have been that made
him realize that.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
So you got the last question and you ended him.

Speaker 9 (32:16):
I did, and me so that with the last strikeout,
I am basically that what was the guy's name from
Houston Bullock, Kaylon Bullock. I's a Kaylon Bullock of Mike
Tomlin's career. That was my pick sixth on the way out.

(32:36):
Maybe I'll get him to sign the transcript like that
Houston guy said he wanted to get Rogers to sign
the ball.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Tim, I think in your pragmatic narrative, I wonder if
there were gonna be some massive staff changes coming, and
I know Mike's never been real a big fan of that.
Maybe he either sensed that or was made aware of that.
Just throwing that out there.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
You know, he well, yeah, no, right, And again I
think this is we're literally talking about fourteen hours here.
And my thinking was, if it did come down to
the contract angle, that Mike knew well in advance of
the Houston game, probably well in advance of the Ravens game,

(33:19):
that he was going to want real quick affirmation that
that option was going to be picked up, and if
Art said no, we'll find that out maybe later today,
then okay, he was going to say I resigned then
and end of conversation. Or I think Art had every
intention of giving him the option and Tomlin just didn't

(33:40):
want to be here anymore. But I have a hard
time believing that he had some sort of epiphany or
you know it came to him in a dream now
after the Houston loss, or a nightmare after the Houston loss,
that this is it.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I'm out.

Speaker 9 (33:54):
I mean, I just I don't think he's that reactionary
of a person.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
I think it's possible he looked at a long road
ahead in having to rebuild with a brand new quarterback,
because that's likely the scenario they're going to have given that.
Of all the names being bandied about, have you thought
about a replacement that makes the most sense at this point.

Speaker 9 (34:15):
I'm just gonna who would you say?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
John Harble?

Speaker 9 (34:20):
Oh, no, Celia, I had the pin wheel going the
right way, Tomlins to Baltimore, Harbaugh to the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
And rehired at the Browns. That's what I've been saying, Yes.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
Because the Browns might do that ye backwards, but I
better Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm scouring the landscape for
defensive coordinators who are thirty six years old.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
That's some to them because.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
That's how Granddad did it.

Speaker 9 (34:47):
That's how Dad did it, That's how Art the second
is going to be inclined to do it.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
There was a lot of revisionist history when coach Kuer left.
I remember the we enough of Coward days. I mean,
the Steeler fan base was not super sad that Cower
stepped down. Now that seems unthinkable, but at the time
that was actually what was happening. It was not dissimilar

(35:14):
to the case of a portion of this fan base
being sort of fed up with Tomlin. It never got
to the fire Cower point, which I hate. I think
that's classless, whether it's Matt Canada or Mike Tomlin. I mean,
keep your keep the dirty laundry inside. But anyways, that's
just me on a soapbox. How do you think they're

(35:36):
going to look back at Mike Tomlin when it's all
said and done, if you look back.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
I've actually found the cowor press conference from yesterday.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
I tweeted it out.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
First of all, you just got to look at it
to see the sweater that he pulled out that day.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
That was Cosby special Oh my god, the Cosby Specialist.

Speaker 9 (35:53):
It is one of the best ones he's ever had.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
He went out and styled there.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
But you know, I mean I kind of thought there
was a rece on the Cower narrative here, like you're right,
I mean people.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
I think people were most fed up with Cowur.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
Going into the new stadium, you know, after the three
years without a playoff berth in ninety eight through two
thousand and then, I.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Do think there was a reset with a Super Bowl point.

Speaker 9 (36:17):
Yeah, the way I remember it was wasn't so much
people were fed up with him and done and wanted
to leave again.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
I just think, like a.

Speaker 9 (36:24):
Lot of people's minds was Okay, mission accomplished, and if
we don't want to have to do a big reboot
after the rocky season that followed the Super Bowl, then okay,
leave a good team and a good legacy behind for
the next guy. And hey, fortunately that happened.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Tim Men's Rocky by Don's Appliances from trib Live Sports
this morning, and Benzi always appreciate your contribution and congratulations
on getting the last question in on Mike Tomlin as
head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
Hey, and by the way, a little plug coming out
later today and later this morning early afternoon today is
the thirtieth anniversary of the Harbaugh Heaves at Three Rivers Stadium,
the AFC Championship Game of nineteen ninety five. And I
talked to the defensive backs who were in the end
zone to bat the ball away from Aaron Bailey to
send the Steelers to Super Bowl thirty.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
So you should have let me know it.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
I got you my buddy Brian Stablein's number, who was
in the end zone right behind.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Oh yeah, Tim, did you talk to Harbaugh and did
he know exactly what coverage they were going to play
and where the blitz was gonna come from and all
the particulars.

Speaker 9 (37:31):
You know, there's that famous clip of him standing in
the end zone looking at the jumbo John Replace saying I.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Thought he caught it. I thought he caught it.

Speaker 10 (37:40):
He did not.

Speaker 9 (37:41):
It rolled off his tummy and the Steelers went.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
To the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Denzi, thanks so much, man. We'll talk to you later.
Abbey's got your news. When we return, we.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Will talk about Rod Stewart's eighty year old sex life.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Oh that's exactly what I want to hear.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Charlie Batch at seven to fifteen, Merrill, Hodge, Rob King,
Jeremy Fowler, who along with Schefter, broke the report yesterday,
Max Stark's Mark Madden.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
A whole lot of Tomlin talk coming up this morning
on DV.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE brought
to you by your Neighborhood for its store and Steelers
Pro Shop. Get it direct from the team at shop
dot Steelers dot com. Here's Tom Opperman.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
For the first time since two thousand and seven, the
Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.
Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after
nineteen seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
By Tomlin leaves behind a legacy that.

Speaker 11 (38:29):
Includes a Super Bowl Championship, two AFC Championships, eight AFC
North Division titles, thirteen total playoff appearances, and of course,
never having had a losing season. The news comes on
the heels of the Steelers losing thirty to six of
the Texans in the Wildcut round Monday night, team's seventh
straight playoff loss, the worst than franchise history.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Steelers will now enter into a coaching.

Speaker 11 (38:49):
Market where they will be competing with eight other NFL
teams searching for a head coach, including their division rivals
Baltimore and Cleveland. As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well,
that remains to be seen, although it has been reported
by ESPNS Adam scheffer that has expected that he will
take a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other
ventures like television. Whenever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the

(39:09):
Steelers will be looking for just the fourth head coach
in team history.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Since nineteen sixty nine, and seeing as.

Speaker 11 (39:14):
The previous three are all Super Bowl champions, two of
three are already in Kenon, with Mike Tomlin surely on
his way as the third. Eventually, the shoes are going
to be pretty big to fill for whoever does get
the job. Steelers owner and president Art Rooney will speak
to the media today at noon to address coach Tomlin
stepping down.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I'm Tom Opferman with the Steelers Report.

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