January 14, 2026 • 49 mins
Max Starks and Mark Madden share their takeaways from Mike Tomlin's decision to step down as head coach and where it leaves the Steelers moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, I mean, just push all the tips towards
the middle of the table, you know, Man, I love
the fact that people care.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I love the fact that our game is a twelve
month game, even in the off season.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Is big news in big business.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's just an honor to be a part of something
that big.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I've grown to enjoy it over the years.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
That was coach Tomlin sitting down with us in latrob
this past August, and that'll be his last Stealers training
camp as head coach. So he stepped down yesterday and resigned.
And I'm having a hard time with change. I think
there needed to be change. I think it's going to
be good for everybody. But I'm still this quickly.
Speaker 8 (01:03):
No, yes, I use your time. Yeah, it's one of
those wait days, have to change.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
We can't keep doing this quit wait no, that's hold on,
hold on, hod On.
Speaker 9 (01:15):
Did you say something I thought, maybe, much like you,
that as much as there was need for change, maybe
my first thought is that at first there would be
changes around him.
Speaker 10 (01:27):
I agree, coordinator would change, the.
Speaker 9 (01:29):
Quarterback would change like that, There would.
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Be other changes, but maybe not him. But that might
have been the impetus for him saying, you know what,
I had enough. He maybe he didn't want to be
told who he could hire as a coordinator. Sure you know,
or as Jeremy Fowler just said, By the way, that
was a great segment we just had with Jeremy Fowler,
a great bariness to make time for us today. Uh,
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it might have just been, hey, man, I'm not getting
it done for you, and I don't feel like I can.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
And you know what, when.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He's got that carrot dangling of TV money and a
much easier lifestyle, I could see that being a little
more attractive than working sixty five to seventy hours a
week January, February and March. You know what I mean,
off season it's a grind, as he just said. But anyways,
(02:23):
I'm gonna miss coach Tomlin. Ben Roethlisberger spoke to the
situation in an Emergency Footballing with Ben Roethlisberger podcast last evening.
Speaker 11 (02:33):
And he's a gold jacket guy meed Chuck Noll Gold jacket,
Bill Cower, gold jacket, Coach Tomlin. I mean that speaks
volumes for this organization and three head coaches, three are
going to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean
these are big shoes to fill. And listen Coach Kyer
talking on this show. He had huge shoes to fill
with coach Nole and Mike t had huge shoes to
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fill with coach Kyleer. The next coach is going to
have huge shoes to fill. And we we joke about it.
You don't want to be the guy that replaces the guy.
You want to be the guy that replaces the guy
that replaced the guy. So one more removed. But coach
Tomlin did it. And you know, you can say what
you want about him taking coach Cower's team and this,
that and the other, but for nineteen seasons there, I
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can't think of another organization that would not be a
static with nineteen winning seasons.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what you strive for.
Speaker 11 (03:25):
Obviously, you want you want Lombardes and you want championships,
and he brought that and it's been a while since
he's had a playoff win. But but what coach Tomlin
had brought to this organization, this city, this community, I
mean very active in the community, like you said, a
leader of men and very involved in the community. Lived
you know, didn't like exclude himself, lived in the in town.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And you know we.
Speaker 11 (03:50):
He deserves our respect and our praise for what he
brought to this organization. I'm sure there's a lot of fans,
like I'm wondering, like the fans that are we're asking
for him to believe Boo fired Tom, this, that and
the other. Now that he's that he stepped down, are
they are the fans that wanted him gone in a
state of like yes, like that's what we're talking about,
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being like you know what, Okay, that's what we were
asking for.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
But thank you, Like let me let me tip the cap.
Speaker 11 (04:17):
You know, how can you not say thank you to
coach team what he brought to this organization for nineteen seasons,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 12 (04:26):
Ben later added, I can't wait to see what he
does with Penn State.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
It's so funny. I've been just sort of flipped on
a dime from.
Speaker 12 (04:36):
Like maybe you should take the Penn State job two
months ago as a troll move. Yes, and then he's like,
oh wait, now it's real. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
I think he and Tomlin always had a push pull relationship,
you know, and that was him at the time giving
him a little hey take the penn stage jup. Also,
that's been thinking out loud on a podcast and learning
that when you you know, think out well, I don't
know how much of a calculated troll it was.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
At the minute. He wanted to give him a shot
and he's like.
Speaker 12 (05:08):
Oh that lives forever now, no, yeah right, he's right, yeah,
he's in the bathroom like that's really picking up steam.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Ben on that podcast also said the Stealers should hire
an offensive guy. So well, we'll see how that goes.
Max Stars will join us in a little bit. Ben's
former teammate and someone who along with Ben wonder super
Bowl with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
That'll be nine p. Fifteen and that's only like six
minutes away.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
But first, Abby, you have some news that it's pretty interesting,
I think, speaking of news, news about news.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
News is Hour brought to you by a better call
cy clouds and rain. Today a high of forty six.
A new report here from the staffers at CBS. CBS
seems to be preparing a new segment called Whiskey Fridays.
Recent reports from January suggest that CBS News might be
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planning a segment called Whiskey Fridays with Tony Dacopple, which
says that they are testing bar setups in the newsroom
and a potential Jack Daniels sponsorship, aiming to boost viewership
for Tony, who recently took over as.
Speaker 10 (06:15):
Anchor of the CBS Evening News.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
So some staff were only first made aware of it
as they encountered the testing set, which basically is a
faux stocked bar in.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The news.
Speaker 13 (06:32):
Encountered the set featuring a large sponsor banner on the
news on the news, my friend for Jack Daniels.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
That's Provda or whatever the hell.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
That's uh, everything's for sale kids.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
And this comes as Tony begins his new role as
anchor of the CBS Evening News, with reports noting declining viewership.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They since he's taken over, they have lost almost twenty
five percent of their audience. It was a twenty percent
drop in the first four days. Now, it should be
no surprise to you that the person overseeing all of
these changes at CBS News, this is Pittsburgh Barry Weiss.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
She's from She's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, she's from Squirrel Hill.
And you knew you grew up with her, right Jacob.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Her youngest sister, Yeah, okay, her youngest sisters migrator and
I knew her growing up. Okay, Well, so it should
be no surprise to you that A Pittsburgh's solution to
declining ratings is well, why don't.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
We drink more, Tony.
Speaker 12 (07:37):
We're testing really low in the drunk guy demographic.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
We've got a solution.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, there's no amount of drinking that will not make
me think that guy's a douchebag.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Though.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I get bad news for you.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
They're turning it into Bill Maher's Club Random on the
evening news the next week.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
It's going to be like stoner Thursdays.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Anyways, I think we should take over Greenland.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah, things are going great, things are really going great.
Speaker 10 (08:10):
I think that even like with us, I know that, like.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
You think you would like to hang out with us drunk,
but you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Drunk.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
You know it's wrong with you, you know it's wrong.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah, you just gets super racist. Yeah, I'm Greek. So
what we did gay stuff and the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I like that.
Speaker 14 (08:34):
I like that I am open minded. Actually, yeah, I
want to wrestle figures Pierce. Yeah, problematic that I was
trying to phrase it. The right way is not to uh,
(08:55):
you know, acquire a lawsuit. Anyways, we probably should move on.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
But it's great that they're openly thinking of just drinking
booze on the evening news.
Speaker 10 (09:02):
Yeah, anything but worrying about the news.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
I always thought it was a terrible idea when Jimmy
Kimmel did it to start his late night show Live
with Jimmy Kimmel, when it was truly like it was
a live show.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I don't I don't think it's I think it's film
live now.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
But they were doing a shot like every few minutes, yeah,
and everybody was getting hammered.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
I'm like, this is just not good.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
There are some instances where like this conceptually if wrangled,
I think what you're talking about, I'm getting away from
the concept of this being on your nightly news, which
I think is an awful idea. But like even like
the drunk Shakespeare thing. Yeah, I saw one production of that,
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and at first I actually thought it was funny. Yeah,
but by the end I didn't think it was funny anymore.
Like it kind of did lose me because like now
I'm like, I'm just watching people hammered. I can do
that for free and.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Shakespeare, Yeah, I mean, that's all you have to do.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
But and I like that they went right to whiskey,
like I don't know, maybe sip on a beer. You know,
they like nop Nick super charges. We only have twenty
two minutes of news. We gotta get hammered. It's time
for the B A C. Chick in Bright to my
pedot point sounds a little low.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Point.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Uh yeah, that would be hilarious if you had to
do that, though. It was like, in order to continue
the news, I have to blow under your point two.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Let's go Venezuela. Who wants it.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Anyways, We'll be fine. I'm not worried about it going great.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Nick Glazer shared on Howard Stern all of the jokes
that she left out.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
On the Golden Globes. I always like to hear this because.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
We did say that she got pretty good marks for
this and that she generally was tame.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
So I'll give you the jokes here.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
Sean Penn, she said, is nominated tonight I'm assuming for
Best neck Veins. Sean Penn is here looking like the
defiant last tree standing in the rainforest, like that.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
One like.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Leo DiCaprio. Why are you always squinting? I assume it's
to read your girlfriend's ID. Amy Poehler is here for
her podcast Good Hang, which is what Timothy Shalomey says
after sex. Julia Roberts nominated for After the Hunt. I
don't know what it's about. I'm assuming the hunt is
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to find somebody who has seen it.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Oh, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
Let's see Chase Infinity Pain or I'm sorry. Chase Infinity
is nominated for Best Actress Tonight, and Chase Infinity is
her real name.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
And this is true.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
If you apply now, you can earn five percent cash
back on all traveling mooing through.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
Her through the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
Chase Infinity Pain is her actual real name. Chase Infinity
Pain is also how Sean Penn gets an erection.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
I can't imagine why she didn't use these on the
old gloves.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Uh, and then she has. Brad Pitt is nominated for
his role in F One tonight. That's what I love
about Hollywood. When a man turns sixty, he gets to
play a race car driver. Meanwhile, after thirty five, every
role for a woman is a tired mom who hates
her life.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, that's pretty true. Maybe Tony Takoppol will do that
on the CBS Evening News. And I was trying for
propaganda we were gonna give you, and I'll just tell
you what those were.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Is it that the news isn't manly enough? Apparently there's
Tony not manly enough. And they're like, listen, we got
to beaf you up a little.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
Bit, maybe a little from called man little from call
I'm a.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
Little whiskey and tell him to be like, you know
what a woman needs.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
I'll tell you who's mainly, Max Starks, ladies and gentlemen
from the Pittsburgh Steelers and he gets a round of
a buzzman Steelers Audio Network. Max's sorry for the awkward intro,
but coming out of the new segment here, you never
know what we're going to be talking about. But we
have been mostly talking about Mike Tomlin and his stepping
down after nineteen years, and I've been still I'm still
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in a state of shocks the wrong word, but I'm
still kind of surprised that it all happened this fast.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
Where are you landing with absorbing this news?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I'm absorbing this a lot better. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I was actually in the air flying back home when
all of this news kind.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Of hit yesterday, and so I didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Have Wi Fi for like the first hour and a
half of the flight. You know, they're like, oh, we
got to reboot in and you know that that's like
a a that's a tricky proposition in and of itself,
just seeing if that actually works or not.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yeah, and if you're in Southwest, they'll be like they
may not to fix the WiFi.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Go ahead, you know, yeah exactly if anybody got flyers,
we're busy. Yeah okay, well yeah yeah, we're gonna call
a policeman land, but we need you.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To fix this WiFi right now.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And so by the time it did come back.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
On, I just got flooded with everybody trying trying to
trying to I felt like dropped the news to me.
I was like, it was funny because like, you know,
my cousin in law and you know, my mom aunties,
everybody's like texting and they're like they're the first, but
yet they're asking you a question on while asking what
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do you think?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You know? While asking do you know?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I'm like, well, what if I said I didn't know?
Because for the first half of those I didn't, But
you know, it's like it's like but then they want
their take to So it was just funny how that
just all transpired, and you know, I had to get
home and when I got there in the evening, finally
getting off of a plane because it's tough to think,
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you know, we had all the flights are like super
pack these days because they've cut down a lot of
the variety.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Of fights, and so.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You know, after having a moment to kind of think
and sleep on it, this just it seemed like this
was where it was headed. And I think for you know,
I'm not going to say a majority of Stealer Nation,
but a segment of Steeler Nation that was really wanting
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this and they were burning for it for years because
they feel like they are a better GM than the
GM themselves, or they can coach the team better than
a head coach. I was like, I would love for
you to even try and get the five hundred at
all in nineteen years as apparently your extensive experience tells you.
But they got what they wanted, right, And I think
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that kind of rang true. And the thoughts is that
we're going to go, you know, and probably about ten years,
fifteen years and.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
That from now and go.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Man, I wish we would have still had coach Thomas. Yeah,
I was like, this would have looked a lot different.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I mean, the grass is all you know, they believe
grass is always great, but you know what you know,
you know what it is. The grass is always greenest
over a pile of manure.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't know if you knew that. I do know that. Yeah,
see exactly fertilizer. Max.
Speaker 15 (16:28):
Let's say you're interviewing for the head coaching job and
you sit down across from mart Rooney the second and
he asks you, Max, what is the biggest, most important
fix we need to make?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What would you tell him?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Well, I think if I'm a defensive coach, run defense.
If I'm an offensive coach, you know, it's it's get
is figuring out what we need to do at that
quarterback position to be competitive. I think those are my
two biggest answers that's going to need to be answered
this offseason for.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
The next head coach and where their priorities are?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You got a quarterback answer?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Oh, I don't have one because I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not auditioning for this job. Man.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Yeah, so, and I don't think I don't think coach
Tomlin had one either. And I think that's part of
the why the timing lined up for him, is that
it was it's it's setting up to be quite an
uphill battle for the Steelers in terms of finding the
right quarterback, having to deal with another bridge year. You know,
he just went from Russell Wilson to Aaron Rodgers to
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who knows next year?
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Do you just throw a rookie in there?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Do you go out and get another proven veteran to
be the bridge guy? You know, it seems like he's
just done that a couple of times, and there is
such a need of a reboot.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
You got to have somebody who is willing to be
in it for the long haul.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
And clearly, with that carrot dangling of NFL broadcasting money
out there waiting for him in a month, much easier lifestyle,
I'm sure it wasn't that hard of a call for
him in the end.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Well, and I went through on there you know, I
mean fan disinterest as well.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think that I think at the end of.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
The day, you know, it's going to get to you
at some point. You know, he's got kids, he has
a wife. You know, he might be quote unquote a silo, right,
but his family's not immune to it. And he's not
immune to his family. You know, he's gonna He's hearing
it from his fai, even if he doesn't hear it
directly as pressure towards.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Him, but it's coming. It comes out some way towards
the people that he loves.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Which then gets back to him in a different way.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And so I think that is.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
How it affects him more than anything else, when it
affects the others that he loves and cares about. And
so you know that that is an element you have
to consider at the head coach forition.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You know, once again, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Because he didn't have his guy, he didn't have his
guys in locker room ready to play.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It wasn't because he.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Could not inspire them in tough moments to get the
best out of them.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because this man is a leader of men.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
At the end of the day, he has made you know,
five of course, lemon based dishes.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
In a cooking competition.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Based off of what some of the roster you had
that looked like, you know, mass rated lemons. You know,
that's that's what he's done, And that's purely a tip
of the cap to him as a coach and a
leader and an evaluator of human beings.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
He won unchopped with ingredients that he had to get
off the top of the garbage can.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Exactly, he didn't. He didn't get the basket. You know,
they found some basket in a buggy next to a dumpster.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Max, Thanks as always for joining us and appreciate you
pulling the early hours on the West Coast. Is there
a tomlinism that will always be one of your favorites?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Listen, guys, I mean the newest was one of the greatest.
If I had man parts, she'd be marble.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
That goes right along with we're still squirreling those nuts,
Max Starks. Yeah, yeah, part of the Steelers Audio Network.
Great job this year with King or the two of
you are a joy to listen to.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Max, Thanks listen, I appreciate it. You know, as always
you guys have been an institution, so great to come on,
all right.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Buddy, take care. Max Stark's with the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Weaing in on Mike Tomlin's end of tenure as head
coach here in Pittsburgh after nineteen years.
Speaker 12 (20:57):
Max sounds a little annoyed with the fans.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I didn't want to give I was trying to get
him to back off on that.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Well, I appreciate a player's perspective. You know, he played
for the guy and he's you know.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I think, what does he know?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
In this day and age, it is just your unless
you're John Wooden with social media, long careers are going
to be hard to come by because the external pressures
almost impossible.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
Like you said, he's got a family, those.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And the financial rewards are such that you don't need
to have.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
A lack career.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
You just hit it, quit out.
Speaker 15 (21:35):
Yeah, go play golf, man, Except Mike doesn't play golf
to my knowledge. I'm sure he screws around and you know,
charity events and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But he's a football guy.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He's a football junkie. He loves it.
Speaker 15 (21:48):
He loves going to training camp, he loves going to
the Senior Bowl. He loves to if he does TV,
I think it's going to be a very brief foray
into TV.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I'm still not rolling out he coaches this year.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Mike Persuda, when we return, more on Mike Tomlin and
who will the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers be?
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Wow, that's weird to say.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We don't won't be. Max Stark's Live.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
From the Don's Appliants' Studios where Pittsburgh's shops for appliance.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Is all right, Mike Persuda on your radio Home of
the Steelers DVE. Mike Tomlin steps down after nineteen years
as the Steelers head coach And now.
Speaker 15 (22:28):
What sports is not brought to you by Bridgeville Appliants.
You can't tell me life doesn't have a sense of humor.
On the same day that Mike Tomlin announces he is
resigning as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The University of Pittsburgh head football.
Speaker 15 (22:42):
Coach Paton Nor Doucy announced the hiring of a new
special teams coordinator Mike Tomlin. The guy's name is Mike Preefer.
Mike Prefer used to be the special teams coach of
the Cleveland Browns, and at the end of the twenty
twenty season, Mike prefer made history by becoming the first
active head coach to win a playoff game. It was
(23:05):
at Heinzfield when the Browns beat the Steelers. Yeah, Kevin
Stefanski had COVID and to pitch credit. In their press release,
they didn't mention the win was over the Steelers. They
just said, became the first acting head coach to win
a playoff game, you know, yeah, yeah, well how about that?
And that was maybe Mike Tomins worst loss ever.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Yes, agreed.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
The Browns had no offensive line and they didn't have
their head coach.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He had COVID. He was watching on TV.
Speaker 15 (23:37):
Back in Strongsville, Ohio, or wherever the other Kevin Stefanski lived.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
People would say the Browns loss this year was one
of his worst losses ever. Almost people were saying that
had they also.
Speaker 15 (23:49):
Lost to the Ravens, I think it would have been
because then you could argue that kept him out of
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
But I'm glad that's not how it went. I'm glad.
I'm glad they at least got to get smacked by Houston.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Thank god that they didn't lose to the Ravens because
then Harbaugh would have done tomlin in.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah, the other way around. Thinking about that all morning.
Speaker 12 (24:10):
That would have that would have left a really bad taste.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
It's a great point.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
It's kind of like ahab killing the whale before he drowned.
When the whales carcass sank to the bottom, right.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
It'd be like the whale going ah and then choking
on something quick quiz.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I am glad you know the way that worked out.
Speaker 15 (24:28):
I mean that Ravens game was one of the great
moments in that facility.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Hinsfield slash acting.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
We had a week, didn't we, folks, And we had
a week.
Speaker 15 (24:36):
The vibe and the buzz and the fielding like people
believed this team was different after that.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
That's why sixty seven thousand and chains showed up on
Monday night.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Turned out it wasn't.
Speaker 15 (24:47):
And maybe Mike tomlin Chan has channeled his inner Winston
Churchill and said if not now when.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
It was a one point game in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
but it's weird to me too. And I was thinking
about the fact that he clearly knew he was going
to step down when it ended, and not that he
didn't put everything into winning that game, but it had
to be a very strange sensation for him to know
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that if they didn't win, he was walking because he
clearly knew that before that game. Nothing happened from the
end of that game till his meeting with our route
the next morning that made him go, you know what
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Certainly had to have thought about it, right.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Yes, So as he is walking up and down the
sidelines in the fourth quarter, depth this is it.
Speaker 15 (25:33):
I don't know if he took the field thinking that,
or I don't know if he was walking the sidelines
thinking he had had to have.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Maybe he just came to.
Speaker 15 (25:40):
The conclusion, Hey, if I'm already thinking about like deal
chuck Nole line, if you're thinking about retirement, you're retired.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Yeah, that might have been it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Maybe he just got tired of banging his head against.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
The wall or telling those guys over and over what
to do and then they don't do it. I mean,
the defense was constantly in flux. Offensive alignment was always
a mess. It's like, is it coaching or is it
players who just won't allow themselves to get the message.
Speaker 15 (26:06):
Yeah, I just think just not good enough, good enough
to overcome adversity in the regular season and bounce back
and fight through the grind of a long schedule and qualify.
Then you got to go to Kansas City and you're
not good enough, so you gets your ass kicked. You've
got to go to Buffalo, so you're not good enough,
so he gets your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
This one was supposed to be different.
Speaker 15 (26:24):
I had a lot of respect for Houston, particularly the defense,
but I didn't think Houston was offensively gifted enough to
turn that game into the kind of blowout that the
Steelers had experienced repeatedly in the postseason leading up to it.
And turns out the Texans offense wasn't good enough, but
the defense threw a couple of touchdowns on top of
the stink sandwich.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Stink sandwich. Those are terrible. It's a fun year, though,
Mark Madden doesn't think so. Mark's gonna join us shortly.
He is all in on tanking. Yeah, go out and
go three fourteen.
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Mark Madden, Mark.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Good morning, hello again everybody. Mark.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
What do you think was the impetus for Mike Tomlin
saying Enough's enough?
Speaker 16 (28:22):
I think the debacle of Monday Night made everybody, not
at least him, realize, enough's enough. That's the fifth straight
playoff loss by double digits. That's the ninth first run.
Next in Pittsburgh. We used to make fun of Marty
Schoenheimer for something that Mike Tomlin wound up matching. So
what made it evident to him? I don't know. I
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still am not quite sure how much of it was
him jumping and how much was him being pushed. But
I think even the most diehard Tomlin supporters would have
to acknowledge that it was time for his run to
come to an end. Actually, Randy, I take that back.
They're not acknowledging that we keep getting cold. Well you'll see,
You'll see the draft isn't always greener. Mike Greenberg said that,
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and I tweeted back, Listen, we're not the Jets. All
the Steeler's going to do is win one playoff game
in the next nine years, and Tomlin's successor will have
topped him well.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
So the scenario is not as set up for success
as it was when Mike Tomlin came in, and for
that matter, and for that matter, when Bill Tower took
the job from Chuck Nole.
Speaker 16 (29:26):
Uh right, there's no question about that. But that's tough
took us. I mean, do you want the job or not.
I don't think it's an attractive job. I think people
who say Marcus Freeman and Kurt Signetti, why would they
want to leave where they're at to come here? Even
though Signetti's in the inser and you know, the budget
for staff ain't going to be great. The facilities aren't great.
Like you said, it's not set up to succeed, and
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that's the organization's fault. But you got to take some steps,
and you've got to move backwards sometimes to go forward.
The last time the Steelers finished with the losing record,
they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. So I'm not as upset by
the possibility of having a few losing seasons, although I'm
sure to in our nation it will because for apoplexy.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
I am appreciative of Mike Tomlin's run here. I liked
that we had winning football all those years. I think
that it's a big difference to have meaningful football every
year in terms of the entertainment factor as a fan,
and also acknowledged that the lack of postseason success meant
something had to change, and you alluded to this, and
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I'm wondering if there was possibly the scenario which Charlie
Batch thinks that maybe the Rooney's pushed him in a direction.
I'm wondering if they said you can stay, but we
got to change these coordinators and you have to relinquish
some of the control. And that was the straw that
broke the camel's back for him.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know.
Speaker 16 (30:52):
I threw that out there on my show, and maybe
there's something to that, because Randall, it surprised me. He
quit Tuesday morning after showing no indication and there off
Monday night.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
If he was hiding it, he hit it.
Speaker 16 (31:03):
Very well because I just didn't figure. But I'll be blunt.
I think this organization and ownership's always been scared the
death of Mike Tomlin, and I think to confront him
in a manner like Charlie suggests and I suggested too,
would have been very uncharacteristic and come out of nowhere.
Doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just not the way
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I would bet.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
So what do they do now? I mean, some of
the names that are being thrown out there are crazy
to me. I don't know how Marcus Freeman's name gets
thrown on top of the pile.
Speaker 16 (31:35):
Well, he's not going to take the job, whether whether
they want him, whether they should or not, he's not
going to take it. It's better off at Notre Dame.
Same with like I said Signetti in Indiana. What they
need to do is make a clean spreak from their
organizational mindset about defense and imposing their will because they
had the most expensive defense in football and it was
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terrible and I didn't see a whole lot of will
being imposed on my night. This league is about offense.
It's about scoring more and faster, and they need to
go in that directional they'll just repeat their mistakes and
not do as well as they want. The name I
keep coming back to is Clint Kubiak, the offensive coredator
at Seattle. I think he's the kind of offensive mind
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that they need to get. I would hire Kevin Stefanski,
who left the Browns. They're not going to because they're
not going to recycle the brons coach. But he's a
good offensive mind. Two time NFL Coach of the Year
and he was undone in Cleveland by ownership interference. As
regards to the Shawn Watson contract though those would be
my top two candidates.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But they need to do more than that.
Speaker 16 (32:41):
Ran Well, they need to clear the staff out. They
usually don't. They didn't do that when Tomlin came in
and replaced Kawer. They need to push as many players
out the door as they can. But I mean TJ. Watt,
who's going to take on that contract for clearly a
clearly declining player. And I knew that was a terrible,
terrible decision when they gave him that deal. And I'm
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always right and nobody should be surprised this time. But yeah,
there's a lot more work to be done besides just
hiring the coach.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Well, this is the problem is they've got some guys
on there that they should probably get rid of. But
the cap, the dead cap, would just kill him.
Speaker 16 (33:18):
Well, then you lose for a while. Like I said,
the last time you finished under five hundred, you signed
Ben Roethlisberg. And by the way, just to clear up
what's always been a myth, that streak of no losing
seasons for Tomlin, A that was mostly Ben streak. It
started before Tomlin took over, and Ben did more to
prop it up than Tomlin for sure, and it always
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became an artificially low bar to reach that the national
media especially could crow about and say, look at Mike
tom when he's never had a losing season. But then
the negative numbers added up, like all those playoff losses
by double digits, five in a row, and that led
us to his departure.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
How many was Ben quarterback for.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Most of them?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The playoff losses?
Speaker 16 (34:03):
Oh yeah, no, Ben's not playing less than that either.
I know you think that nothing's wrong with the team, Mike,
but there is.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I never said nothing's wrong with it. I'm just asking
a question.
Speaker 16 (34:12):
Would you have kept Tomlin? That's the question I'm asking.
I would Yep, you're insane, But everybody's that title of
their opinion.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
You're insane. Next, you two are insane? You saying, well,
I just don't.
Speaker 16 (34:26):
I just don't see the logic for keeping the guy
that just gets his bears blown off in playoff game
after playoff game. The support you'll see, you'll see what's
gonna happen. And the worst part is the next two
years it'll look like a mistake just based on one loss.
But it's the right move, absolutely the right move.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Well, I think his biggest problem was talent assessment and
his lack of willingness to allow coordinators to have more
independence and bringing guys with a real pedigree.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
It seemed like he was okay with guys who kind
of agreed with his defensive philosophy and a more conservative
offensive approach, and that he was okay with.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
And I think he if he were more open.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
To having you know, it's I Mike and I disagree
on this. I think his lack of coaching tree is
an indictment.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
And that doesn't it.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
Doesn't mean everything, but it doesn't mean.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Nothing right, And it doesn't mean I think he was
a bad coach.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
I think that that would have really put him over
the top into untouchable territory.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
Yeah, I think he was an absolute fraud. I think
he won with Cowers, players, leaders, and culture. And the
further we got away from that, the more that became evident.
Sorry that that's what I think, and that's what the
record show.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Well, yoga became very Correlation is not causation.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
Okay, Now do the now do the all time wins?
Not do the division titles? Now do ten and seven
this year?
Speaker 16 (35:50):
Now do all I'm so excited by ten and seven.
I'm so excited by the division. Give me a right.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And all time wins.
Speaker 16 (36:01):
Is like comparing caviar and horseman. Or he couldn't carry
Chuck Noll's jock in a hockey equipment.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Bag, would have done with AB.
Speaker 16 (36:10):
Better than well, you see, that's a tough one. That's
a tough one because he got a lot statistically on AB.
But it killed the culture and they didn't win anything.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Games.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (36:21):
Right, if you're happy with that, Mike, then you'll be
happy with that.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm allowed to be happy. What makes me happy? Thank you?
Speaker 16 (36:30):
But of course, of course you are. But but I mean,
it's just I remember when this team was based on
winning super Bowls, when that was the expectation, when that
was the goal, and it didn't become just an empty
slogan they preached with no hope of doing it, like
like they had no chance at the super Bowl for
how many years, none whatsoever beyond getting in the playoffs,
and then they got killed, so it wasn't much of
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a chance. I'm sorry, this is one thousand percent the
right move.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I don't think anybody it's not a matter of whether
it's right or not to me like, I think it's
going to be a good change for both people, like
both parties. I think everybody benefits here because something needed
to change. But if I point to one thing that
was Mike Tomlin's downfall, it was drafting Kenny Pickett, no,
no question.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And I said it.
Speaker 16 (37:13):
Then I said, this will set the team back five years.
As it turned out, it's going to be longer. And
Mike confirmer deny he was the only guy in the
building one.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I don't, I don't have that information. Well I do, Okay,
I don't think that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
I think that a guy like Kenny Pickett, who they
should have known forward and backward just by proximity, like
they should have had a better read on him than
they could have had anybody else. But that's my point
is to be that wrong about somebody that you had
that much access to really speaks to their lack of
ability to assess talent correctly. And too often, he thought
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he could author these reclamation projects from guys who only
had two or three games left in him.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Well.
Speaker 16 (38:01):
A big problem occurred during the Coward administration when Cowor
won the power struggle with the GM Tom Donaho, and
then it became the coach having final say, and that
needs to change. By the way, the GM needs to
get more input, maybe not final say, maybe final say,
but just you know, at least where the coach doesn't
say this is it period and he gets his way.
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But to do that you need a better GM. Oh
Mark Conza being Connor. He's a cap guy.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He's not a GM.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Mark Mannen brought to you by Calusy serving the Pittsburgh
I just want.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
To say I love pursuit.
Speaker 16 (38:33):
This is I want to say I love pursuit of
This is just healthy debate.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And I'm right.
Speaker 15 (38:38):
Okay he feels I stay correct and thank you, super genius.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
See you Mark, that's Mark. I'm going to miss Coach Tomlin. Also,
I thought there's a need for a change in some regard.
So some of my favorite tomlinisms through the years. There's
a lot, you know, there's lot of many. It's a
lot that I really like. Cut off your eyelids. Love
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to cut off your eyelids.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
If you're a blinker, cut off your eyelids.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
It's just a pebble in my shoe, Just a.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Pebble in my shoe. Popcorn is popcorn. I never understood
the popcorn one. Made no sense to me.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
His explanation for it was that it meant one thing here,
one thing there, I guess because popcorn flies out of
the popcorn maker and lands all over the floor.
Speaker 15 (39:35):
Mind always it stays in the same place, like it's
in a bag, and he put the bag in a microwave,
and then popcorn comes out and it's all right there.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Popcorn does go everywhere.
Speaker 12 (39:46):
The clerk should recut penny on the floor with pebble
in my shoe.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
I like that, Take it out and keep moving.
Speaker 7 (39:55):
Big difference between squashing grapes and drinking wine.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
It's a good one, very good.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
YEA. When you have.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Red paint, your paint red standard is a standard. Kind
of drove me nut. So I'm not gonna lie to you.
I hated that one from your conturn.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
Shall always say it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Never say never but never. I'd rather say world and sick.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thoughtfully, non rhythmic.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
That was a big one.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
I've tried to embrace that in a lot of forums.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
You don't have to elaborate.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
I'm a volunteers, not hostages. Always a good one.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
I say it all the time.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
I do. My windshield is bigger than my rear view mirror.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It's a good one.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
But I don't send messages make moves.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
That's that's not Steven Seagall. Why not? Both statistics are
for losers.
Speaker 16 (41:03):
Like that.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
Who do you think he said that to Elis Cannon?
I don't even think he's Is he even around over
there anyway?
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Football is our game. Our business is winning. It's difficult
to box without sparring another one. Yeh, got to get
comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
Do you like that?
Speaker 7 (41:29):
The one that came back to bite him in the
ass the most times, though, was we don't live in
our fears.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
That was used as a cudgel to crush Mike Tomlin
after anytime he didn't go for it on four of
the inches, anytime he punted.
Speaker 15 (41:46):
Yeah, anytime he didn't stick his hand on a burner
on a hot stove.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Like taxi driver.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Heinz Ward has money in my emotional bank account.
Speaker 10 (41:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
Do you think the interest is that?
Speaker 7 (42:02):
I can give you all the ingredients to the hot dog,
but you might not like it.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
You wouldn't really gross stuff in there?
Speaker 8 (42:16):
A lot of meat on the growth bone.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
I was waiting for you to do it, because if
you weren't going to do it.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
I'll love meet on the growth bone.
Speaker 12 (42:26):
I can't believe we haven't made a bigger deal about
that one, because that one's good.
Speaker 10 (42:33):
Yeah, where's the growth bone.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
I'm not into making predictions. I'm into making preparations. Leadership's
not about being in charge, about taking charge of those
in your charge. It's not about what we want to do.
It's about what we're about to do. I'm not into
moral victories. I'm into victories.
Speaker 12 (42:57):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
We're gonna pursue perfection, knowing full well we won't catch it,
but we're gonna relentlessly chase it.
Speaker 8 (43:12):
Oh wow, I'm a big believer. You don't rise to
the occasion, you sink to the level of your training.
Are you okay over there? Are you gonna you need
a fan?
Speaker 10 (43:26):
Buy me dinner next time? Before you start this list?
Speaker 8 (43:32):
When you win, nobody remembers who got the credit. These
are making me sad.
Speaker 10 (43:42):
Brandy, do you need a hug?
Speaker 8 (43:45):
I'm just gonna cut off my eyelids and move forward.
Speaker 12 (43:48):
You know, the worst or the most defensive tominism was
I don't know who cuts my grass.
Speaker 17 (43:56):
I'll never let him off the hook for that as
a landscaper. That that's when he lost me, the poor
guy who cut his grass. That guy had been telling
people four years I cut Coach Domalds.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I'm not a big bragger. I don't like the brag,
but I do.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (44:18):
You know I have the tom on account.
Speaker 15 (44:19):
Yeah that's ironic because a beew who cut his grass,
he just wouldn't pay him.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
That's well, thanks for the memories, Coach Tomlin, and uh,
onward and upward for everybody.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Well onward.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
I might be down with it for a while. I
guess this means so long Aaron Rodgers, I would assume
he's not coming back to play here. He might play somewhere.
I ain't gonna be here, Arthur Smith.
Speaker 12 (44:50):
Seea McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers reunite for one last grab
of the brass ring.
Speaker 8 (44:58):
Mcarthy's not being mentioned at all.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Bring the big inser back to Greenfield.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
He could be the good Bridge guy.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
I don't think they're gonna have another twenty year head coach.
That's just not how the league works now. So that's
the dumbest idea I ever heard bring them back, like
put the basics it, Like, hey, coach, we're bringing you
here to just restore the foundation. Expectation is simply that,
and then we're gonna bounce you in a few years
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because you're not gonna want to coach anymore anyways. And
then we'll get a platform set for the next up
and coming Ben Johnson or whoever that might be.
Speaker 15 (45:33):
How mutually it's all serious is I'm very curious if
their mindset is, Okay, we're three for three the last
three times we did this, even though it's only you know,
a seventy year window, let's run it back and do
it that way, or are they gonna embrace a new
model for what they want, Like would they consider a
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guy who's been a head coach before now, would they
consider a college guy? Would they consider something other than
the young, up and coming defensive minded.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
Yeah, I'm with you on next guy.
Speaker 12 (46:06):
You mentioned it in one of your sports updates, Mike,
and I think this has been overlooked. You need someone
who is not going to be overwhelmed by the job
right away and like horribly fatigued, someone who loves football
in the way that.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (46:20):
McCarthy fills the bill on that one. We're gonna have
coaches meetings at Zano's.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I gotta go to Alis.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
You guys tomorrow never leaves Greenfield. I gonna take a
nap and we'll figure it out, all right. We gotta Steelers.
Thanks to Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,
Jeremy Fowler, Max Starts, and Mark Madden. We had a
full list of Steelers insiders this morning, and if you
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want to catch any that can go back and listen
to it on the podcast Start to Finish wherever you
get your podcasts, the EV Morning Show. Michelle's up next
with the Electric Lunch at noon. Thanks Ted Whistle for
hanging out with this this morning. And uh here we
go jus Steelers. Thanks Coach T.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
I'm finished. You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face.
He got him tight Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
O day baby. But now you guys call me Ronald?
Speaker 10 (47:14):
Would you not eat my pants?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Ronald?
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Oh ma, way google it.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
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Speaker 3 (47:35):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
For the first time since two thousand and seven, the
Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.
Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after nineteen.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 18 (47:47):
By Tomlin leaves behind a legacy that includes a Super
Bowl Championship, two AFC Championships, eight AFC North Division titles,
thirteen total playoff appearances, and of course.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Never having had a losing season. The news comes on the.
Speaker 18 (47:59):
Heel of the Steelers losing thirty to six to the
Texans in the Wild Cut Round Monday night, the team's
seventh straight playoff loss, the worse than franchise history. The
Steelers will now enter into a coaching market where they
will be competing with eight other NFL teams searching for
a head coach, including their division rivals Baltimore and Cleveland.
As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well, that
remains to be seen, although it has been reported by
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ESPNS Adam Scheffer that is expected that he will take
a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other ventures
like television. Whenever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the Steelers
will be looking for just the fourth head coach and
team history.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 18 (48:34):
And seeing as the previous three are all Super Bowl
champions and two of three are already in Kenon with
Mike Tomlin surely on his way as the third, eventually,
the shoes are going to be pretty big to fill
for whoever does get the job. Steelers owner and president
Art Rooney will speak to the media today at noon
to address coach Tomlin stepping down.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
I'm Tom Aferman with the Steelers Report. He goes forth,
He's got it.
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Speaker 4 (00:23):
You know, I mean, just push all the tips towards
the middle of the table, you know, Man, I love
the fact that people care.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I love the fact that our game is a twelve
month game, even in the off season.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Is big news in big business.
Speaker 6 (00:36):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's just an honor to be a part of something
that big.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Man.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I've grown to enjoy it over the years.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
That was coach Tomlin sitting down with us in latrob
this past August, and that'll be his last Stealers training
camp as head coach. So he stepped down yesterday and resigned.
And I'm having a hard time with change. I think
there needed to be change. I think it's going to
be good for everybody. But I'm still this quickly.
Speaker 8 (01:03):
No, yes, I use your time. Yeah, it's one of
those wait days, have to change.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
We can't keep doing this quit wait no, that's hold on,
hold on, hod On.
Speaker 9 (01:15):
Did you say something I thought, maybe, much like you,
that as much as there was need for change, maybe
my first thought is that at first there would be
changes around him.
Speaker 10 (01:27):
I agree, coordinator would change, the.
Speaker 9 (01:29):
Quarterback would change like that, There would.
Speaker 7 (01:31):
Be other changes, but maybe not him. But that might
have been the impetus for him saying, you know what,
I had enough. He maybe he didn't want to be
told who he could hire as a coordinator. Sure you know,
or as Jeremy Fowler just said, By the way, that
was a great segment we just had with Jeremy Fowler,
a great bariness to make time for us today. Uh,
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it might have just been, hey, man, I'm not getting
it done for you, and I don't feel like I can.
Speaker 8 (01:59):
And you know what, when.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
He's got that carrot dangling of TV money and a
much easier lifestyle, I could see that being a little
more attractive than working sixty five to seventy hours a
week January, February and March. You know what I mean,
off season it's a grind, as he just said. But anyways,
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I'm gonna miss coach Tomlin. Ben Roethlisberger spoke to the
situation in an Emergency Footballing with Ben Roethlisberger podcast last evening.
Speaker 11 (02:33):
And he's a gold jacket guy meed Chuck Noll Gold jacket,
Bill Cower, gold jacket, Coach Tomlin. I mean that speaks
volumes for this organization and three head coaches, three are
going to be in the Hall of Fame. I mean
these are big shoes to fill. And listen Coach Kyer
talking on this show. He had huge shoes to fill
with coach Nole and Mike t had huge shoes to
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fill with coach Kyleer. The next coach is going to
have huge shoes to fill. And we we joke about it.
You don't want to be the guy that replaces the guy.
You want to be the guy that replaces the guy
that replaced the guy. So one more removed. But coach
Tomlin did it. And you know, you can say what
you want about him taking coach Cower's team and this,
that and the other, but for nineteen seasons there, I
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can't think of another organization that would not be a
static with nineteen winning seasons.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
That's what you strive for.
Speaker 11 (03:25):
Obviously, you want you want Lombardes and you want championships,
and he brought that and it's been a while since
he's had a playoff win. But but what coach Tomlin
had brought to this organization, this city, this community, I
mean very active in the community, like you said, a
leader of men and very involved in the community. Lived
you know, didn't like exclude himself, lived in the in town.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And you know we.
Speaker 11 (03:50):
He deserves our respect and our praise for what he
brought to this organization. I'm sure there's a lot of fans,
like I'm wondering, like the fans that are we're asking
for him to believe Boo fired Tom, this, that and
the other. Now that he's that he stepped down, are
they are the fans that wanted him gone in a
state of like yes, like that's what we're talking about,
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being like you know what, Okay, that's what we were
asking for.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
But thank you, Like let me let me tip the cap.
Speaker 11 (04:17):
You know, how can you not say thank you to
coach team what he brought to this organization for nineteen seasons,
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 8 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 12 (04:26):
Ben later added, I can't wait to see what he
does with Penn State.
Speaker 8 (04:32):
It's so funny. I've been just sort of flipped on
a dime from.
Speaker 12 (04:36):
Like maybe you should take the Penn State job two
months ago as a troll move. Yes, and then he's like,
oh wait, now it's real. Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
I think he and Tomlin always had a push pull relationship,
you know, and that was him at the time giving
him a little hey take the penn stage jup. Also,
that's been thinking out loud on a podcast and learning
that when you you know, think out well, I don't
know how much of a calculated troll it was.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
At the minute. He wanted to give him a shot
and he's like.
Speaker 12 (05:08):
Oh that lives forever now, no, yeah right, he's right, yeah,
he's in the bathroom like that's really picking up steam.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
Yeah, oh boy.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Ben on that podcast also said the Stealers should hire
an offensive guy. So well, we'll see how that goes.
Max Stars will join us in a little bit. Ben's
former teammate and someone who along with Ben wonder super
Bowl with Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
That'll be nine p. Fifteen and that's only like six
minutes away.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
But first, Abby, you have some news that it's pretty interesting,
I think, speaking of news, news about news.
Speaker 9 (05:38):
News is Hour brought to you by a better call
cy clouds and rain. Today a high of forty six.
A new report here from the staffers at CBS. CBS
seems to be preparing a new segment called Whiskey Fridays.
Recent reports from January suggest that CBS News might be
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planning a segment called Whiskey Fridays with Tony Dacopple, which
says that they are testing bar setups in the newsroom
and a potential Jack Daniels sponsorship, aiming to boost viewership
for Tony, who recently took over as.
Speaker 10 (06:15):
Anchor of the CBS Evening News.
Speaker 9 (06:17):
So some staff were only first made aware of it
as they encountered the testing set, which basically is a
faux stocked bar in.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
The news.
Speaker 13 (06:32):
Encountered the set featuring a large sponsor banner on the
news on the news, my friend for Jack Daniels.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
That's Provda or whatever the hell.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
That's uh, everything's for sale kids.
Speaker 9 (06:50):
And this comes as Tony begins his new role as
anchor of the CBS Evening News, with reports noting declining viewership.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They since he's taken over, they have lost almost twenty
five percent of their audience. It was a twenty percent
drop in the first four days. Now, it should be
no surprise to you that the person overseeing all of
these changes at CBS News, this is Pittsburgh Barry Weiss.
Speaker 8 (07:15):
She's from She's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, she's from Squirrel Hill.
And you knew you grew up with her, right Jacob.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
Her youngest sister, Yeah, okay, her youngest sisters migrator and
I knew her growing up. Okay, Well, so it should
be no surprise to you that A Pittsburgh's solution to
declining ratings is well, why don't.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
We drink more, Tony.
Speaker 12 (07:37):
We're testing really low in the drunk guy demographic.
Speaker 8 (07:43):
We've got a solution.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, there's no amount of drinking that will not make
me think that guy's a douchebag.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Though.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
I get bad news for you.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
They're turning it into Bill Maher's Club Random on the
evening news the next week.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
It's going to be like stoner Thursdays.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
You know.
Speaker 8 (08:00):
Anyways, I think we should take over Greenland.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Yeah, things are going great, things are really going great.
Speaker 10 (08:10):
I think that even like with us, I know that, like.
Speaker 9 (08:15):
You think you would like to hang out with us drunk,
but you wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Drunk.
Speaker 10 (08:24):
You know it's wrong with you, you know it's wrong.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Yeah, you just gets super racist. Yeah, I'm Greek. So
what we did gay stuff and the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I like that.
Speaker 14 (08:34):
I like that I am open minded. Actually, yeah, I
want to wrestle figures Pierce. Yeah, problematic that I was
trying to phrase it. The right way is not to uh,
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you know, acquire a lawsuit. Anyways, we probably should move on.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
But it's great that they're openly thinking of just drinking
booze on the evening news.
Speaker 10 (09:02):
Yeah, anything but worrying about the news.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
I always thought it was a terrible idea when Jimmy
Kimmel did it to start his late night show Live
with Jimmy Kimmel, when it was truly like it was
a live show.
Speaker 8 (09:13):
I don't I don't think it's I think it's film
live now.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
But they were doing a shot like every few minutes, yeah,
and everybody was getting hammered.
Speaker 8 (09:24):
I'm like, this is just not good.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
You know.
Speaker 9 (09:27):
There are some instances where like this conceptually if wrangled,
I think what you're talking about, I'm getting away from
the concept of this being on your nightly news, which
I think is an awful idea. But like even like
the drunk Shakespeare thing. Yeah, I saw one production of that,
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and at first I actually thought it was funny. Yeah,
but by the end I didn't think it was funny anymore.
Like it kind of did lose me because like now
I'm like, I'm just watching people hammered. I can do
that for free and.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
Shakespeare, Yeah, I mean, that's all you have to do.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
But and I like that they went right to whiskey,
like I don't know, maybe sip on a beer. You know,
they like nop Nick super charges. We only have twenty
two minutes of news. We gotta get hammered. It's time
for the B A C. Chick in Bright to my
pedot point sounds a little low.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Point.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Uh yeah, that would be hilarious if you had to
do that, though. It was like, in order to continue
the news, I have to blow under your point two.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Let's go Venezuela. Who wants it.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Anyways, We'll be fine. I'm not worried about it going great.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
Nick Glazer shared on Howard Stern all of the jokes
that she left out.
Speaker 10 (11:04):
On the Golden Globes. I always like to hear this because.
Speaker 9 (11:07):
We did say that she got pretty good marks for
this and that she generally was tame.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
So I'll give you the jokes here.
Speaker 9 (11:13):
Sean Penn, she said, is nominated tonight I'm assuming for
Best neck Veins. Sean Penn is here looking like the
defiant last tree standing in the rainforest, like that.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
One like.
Speaker 9 (11:26):
Leo DiCaprio. Why are you always squinting? I assume it's
to read your girlfriend's ID. Amy Poehler is here for
her podcast Good Hang, which is what Timothy Shalomey says
after sex. Julia Roberts nominated for After the Hunt. I
don't know what it's about. I'm assuming the hunt is
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to find somebody who has seen it.
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Oh, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 9 (11:54):
Let's see Chase Infinity Pain or I'm sorry. Chase Infinity
is nominated for Best Actress Tonight, and Chase Infinity is
her real name.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
And this is true.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
If you apply now, you can earn five percent cash
back on all traveling mooing through.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
Her through the end of the year.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
Chase Infinity Pain is her actual real name. Chase Infinity
Pain is also how Sean Penn gets an erection.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
I can't imagine why she didn't use these on the
old gloves.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Uh, and then she has. Brad Pitt is nominated for
his role in F One tonight. That's what I love
about Hollywood. When a man turns sixty, he gets to
play a race car driver. Meanwhile, after thirty five, every
role for a woman is a tired mom who hates
her life.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
Yeah, that's pretty true. Maybe Tony Takoppol will do that
on the CBS Evening News. And I was trying for
propaganda we were gonna give you, and I'll just tell
you what those were.
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Is it that the news isn't manly enough? Apparently there's
Tony not manly enough. And they're like, listen, we got
to beaf you up a little.
Speaker 8 (12:57):
Bit, maybe a little from called man little from call
I'm a.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
Little whiskey and tell him to be like, you know
what a woman needs.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
I'll tell you who's mainly, Max Starks, ladies and gentlemen
from the Pittsburgh Steelers and he gets a round of
a buzzman Steelers Audio Network. Max's sorry for the awkward intro,
but coming out of the new segment here, you never
know what we're going to be talking about. But we
have been mostly talking about Mike Tomlin and his stepping
down after nineteen years, and I've been still I'm still
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in a state of shocks the wrong word, but I'm
still kind of surprised that it all happened this fast.
Speaker 8 (13:29):
Where are you landing with absorbing this news?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So I'm absorbing this a lot better. You know.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
I was actually in the air flying back home when
all of this news kind.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Of hit yesterday, and so I didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Have Wi Fi for like the first hour and a
half of the flight. You know, they're like, oh, we
got to reboot in and you know that that's like
a a that's a tricky proposition in and of itself,
just seeing if that actually works or not.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yeah, and if you're in Southwest, they'll be like they
may not to fix the WiFi.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Go ahead, you know, yeah exactly if anybody got flyers,
we're busy. Yeah okay, well yeah yeah, we're gonna call
a policeman land, but we need you.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
To fix this WiFi right now.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And so by the time it did come back.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
On, I just got flooded with everybody trying trying to
trying to I felt like dropped the news to me.
I was like, it was funny because like, you know,
my cousin in law and you know, my mom aunties,
everybody's like texting and they're like they're the first, but
yet they're asking you a question on while asking what
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do you think?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You know? While asking do you know?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I'm like, well, what if I said I didn't know?
Because for the first half of those I didn't, But
you know, it's like it's like but then they want
their take to So it was just funny how that
just all transpired, and you know, I had to get
home and when I got there in the evening, finally
getting off of a plane because it's tough to think,
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you know, we had all the flights are like super
pack these days because they've cut down a lot of
the variety.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Of fights, and so.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
You know, after having a moment to kind of think
and sleep on it, this just it seemed like this
was where it was headed. And I think for you know,
I'm not going to say a majority of Stealer Nation,
but a segment of Steeler Nation that was really wanting
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this and they were burning for it for years because
they feel like they are a better GM than the
GM themselves, or they can coach the team better than
a head coach. I was like, I would love for
you to even try and get the five hundred at
all in nineteen years as apparently your extensive experience tells you.
But they got what they wanted, right, And I think
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that kind of rang true. And the thoughts is that
we're going to go, you know, and probably about ten years,
fifteen years and.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
That from now and go.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Man, I wish we would have still had coach Thomas. Yeah,
I was like, this would have looked a lot different.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
I mean, the grass is all you know, they believe
grass is always great, but you know what you know,
you know what it is. The grass is always greenest
over a pile of manure.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I don't know if you knew that. I do know that. Yeah,
see exactly fertilizer. Max.
Speaker 15 (16:28):
Let's say you're interviewing for the head coaching job and
you sit down across from mart Rooney the second and
he asks you, Max, what is the biggest, most important
fix we need to make?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What would you tell him?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Well, I think if I'm a defensive coach, run defense.
If I'm an offensive coach, you know, it's it's get
is figuring out what we need to do at that
quarterback position to be competitive. I think those are my
two biggest answers that's going to need to be answered
this offseason for.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
The next head coach and where their priorities are?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You got a quarterback answer?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Oh, I don't have one because I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not auditioning for this job. Man.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Yeah, so, and I don't think I don't think coach
Tomlin had one either. And I think that's part of
the why the timing lined up for him, is that
it was it's it's setting up to be quite an
uphill battle for the Steelers in terms of finding the
right quarterback, having to deal with another bridge year. You know,
he just went from Russell Wilson to Aaron Rodgers to
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who knows next year?
Speaker 8 (17:37):
Do you just throw a rookie in there?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Do you go out and get another proven veteran to
be the bridge guy? You know, it seems like he's
just done that a couple of times, and there is
such a need of a reboot.
Speaker 8 (17:50):
You got to have somebody who is willing to be
in it for the long haul.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
And clearly, with that carrot dangling of NFL broadcasting money
out there waiting for him in a month, much easier lifestyle,
I'm sure it wasn't that hard of a call for
him in the end.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Well, and I went through on there you know, I
mean fan disinterest as well.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think that I think at the end of.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
The day, you know, it's going to get to you
at some point. You know, he's got kids, he has
a wife. You know, he might be quote unquote a silo, right,
but his family's not immune to it. And he's not
immune to his family. You know, he's gonna He's hearing
it from his fai, even if he doesn't hear it
directly as pressure towards.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Him, but it's coming. It comes out some way towards
the people that he loves.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Which then gets back to him in a different way.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
And so I think that is.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
How it affects him more than anything else, when it
affects the others that he loves and cares about. And
so you know that that is an element you have
to consider at the head coach forition.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
You know, once again, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Because he didn't have his guy, he didn't have his
guys in locker room ready to play.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
It wasn't because he.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Could not inspire them in tough moments to get the
best out of them.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Because this man is a leader of men.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
At the end of the day, he has made you know,
five of course, lemon based dishes.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
In a cooking competition.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Based off of what some of the roster you had
that looked like, you know, mass rated lemons. You know,
that's that's what he's done, And that's purely a tip
of the cap to him as a coach and a
leader and an evaluator of human beings.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
He won unchopped with ingredients that he had to get
off the top of the garbage can.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Exactly, he didn't. He didn't get the basket. You know,
they found some basket in a buggy next to a dumpster.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know. Yeah, exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Max, Thanks as always for joining us and appreciate you
pulling the early hours on the West Coast. Is there
a tomlinism that will always be one of your favorites?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Man?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Listen, guys, I mean the newest was one of the greatest.
If I had man parts, she'd be marble.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
That is true.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
That goes right along with we're still squirreling those nuts,
Max Starks. Yeah, yeah, part of the Steelers Audio Network.
Great job this year with King or the two of
you are a joy to listen to.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Max, Thanks listen, I appreciate it. You know, as always
you guys have been an institution, so great to come on,
all right.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Buddy, take care. Max Stark's with the Steelers Audio Network.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
Weaing in on Mike Tomlin's end of tenure as head
coach here in Pittsburgh after nineteen years.
Speaker 12 (20:57):
Max sounds a little annoyed with the fans.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I didn't want to give I was trying to get
him to back off on that.
Speaker 12 (21:03):
Well, I appreciate a player's perspective. You know, he played
for the guy and he's you know.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I think, what does he know?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
In this day and age, it is just your unless
you're John Wooden with social media, long careers are going
to be hard to come by because the external pressures
almost impossible.
Speaker 8 (21:27):
Like you said, he's got a family, those.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And the financial rewards are such that you don't need
to have.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
A lack career.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
You just hit it, quit out.
Speaker 15 (21:35):
Yeah, go play golf, man, Except Mike doesn't play golf
to my knowledge. I'm sure he screws around and you know,
charity events and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But he's a football guy.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
He's a football junkie. He loves it.
Speaker 15 (21:48):
He loves going to training camp, he loves going to
the Senior Bowl. He loves to if he does TV,
I think it's going to be a very brief foray
into TV.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
And I'm still not rolling out he coaches this year.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Mike Persuda, when we return, more on Mike Tomlin and
who will the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers be?
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Wow, that's weird to say.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
We don't won't be. Max Stark's Live.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
From the Don's Appliants' Studios where Pittsburgh's shops for appliance.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Is all right, Mike Persuda on your radio Home of
the Steelers DVE. Mike Tomlin steps down after nineteen years
as the Steelers head coach And now.
Speaker 15 (22:28):
What sports is not brought to you by Bridgeville Appliants.
You can't tell me life doesn't have a sense of humor.
On the same day that Mike Tomlin announces he is
resigning as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The University of Pittsburgh head football.
Speaker 15 (22:42):
Coach Paton Nor Doucy announced the hiring of a new
special teams coordinator Mike Tomlin. The guy's name is Mike Preefer.
Mike Prefer used to be the special teams coach of
the Cleveland Browns, and at the end of the twenty
twenty season, Mike prefer made history by becoming the first
active head coach to win a playoff game. It was
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at Heinzfield when the Browns beat the Steelers. Yeah, Kevin
Stefanski had COVID and to pitch credit. In their press release,
they didn't mention the win was over the Steelers. They
just said, became the first acting head coach to win
a playoff game, you know, yeah, yeah, well how about that?
And that was maybe Mike Tomins worst loss ever.
Speaker 8 (23:28):
Yes, agreed.
Speaker 15 (23:31):
The Browns had no offensive line and they didn't have
their head coach.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
He had COVID. He was watching on TV.
Speaker 15 (23:37):
Back in Strongsville, Ohio, or wherever the other Kevin Stefanski lived.
Speaker 7 (23:41):
People would say the Browns loss this year was one
of his worst losses ever. Almost people were saying that
had they also.
Speaker 15 (23:49):
Lost to the Ravens, I think it would have been
because then you could argue that kept him out of
the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
But I'm glad that's not how it went. I'm glad.
I'm glad they at least got to get smacked by Houston.
Speaker 12 (24:02):
Thank god that they didn't lose to the Ravens because
then Harbaugh would have done tomlin in.
Speaker 8 (24:07):
Yeah, the other way around. Thinking about that all morning.
Speaker 12 (24:10):
That would have that would have left a really bad taste.
Speaker 8 (24:13):
It's a great point.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
It's kind of like ahab killing the whale before he drowned.
When the whales carcass sank to the bottom, right.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
It'd be like the whale going ah and then choking
on something quick quiz.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I am glad you know the way that worked out.
Speaker 15 (24:28):
I mean that Ravens game was one of the great
moments in that facility.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Hinsfield slash acting.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
We had a week, didn't we, folks, And we had
a week.
Speaker 15 (24:36):
The vibe and the buzz and the fielding like people
believed this team was different after that.
Speaker 7 (24:41):
That's why sixty seven thousand and chains showed up on
Monday night.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Turned out it wasn't.
Speaker 15 (24:47):
And maybe Mike tomlin Chan has channeled his inner Winston
Churchill and said if not now when.
Speaker 7 (24:52):
It was a one point game in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
but it's weird to me too. And I was thinking
about the fact that he clearly knew he was going
to step down when it ended, and not that he
didn't put everything into winning that game, but it had
to be a very strange sensation for him to know
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that if they didn't win, he was walking because he
clearly knew that before that game. Nothing happened from the
end of that game till his meeting with our route
the next morning that made him go, you know what
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Certainly had to have thought about it, right.
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Yes, So as he is walking up and down the
sidelines in the fourth quarter, depth this is it.
Speaker 15 (25:33):
I don't know if he took the field thinking that,
or I don't know if he was walking the sidelines
thinking he had had to have.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Maybe he just came to.
Speaker 15 (25:40):
The conclusion, Hey, if I'm already thinking about like deal
chuck Nole line, if you're thinking about retirement, you're retired.
Speaker 8 (25:45):
Yeah, that might have been it.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Maybe he just got tired of banging his head against.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
The wall or telling those guys over and over what
to do and then they don't do it. I mean,
the defense was constantly in flux. Offensive alignment was always
a mess. It's like, is it coaching or is it
players who just won't allow themselves to get the message.
Speaker 15 (26:06):
Yeah, I just think just not good enough, good enough
to overcome adversity in the regular season and bounce back
and fight through the grind of a long schedule and qualify.
Then you got to go to Kansas City and you're
not good enough, so you gets your ass kicked. You've
got to go to Buffalo, so you're not good enough,
so he gets your ass kicked.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
This one was supposed to be different.
Speaker 15 (26:24):
I had a lot of respect for Houston, particularly the defense,
but I didn't think Houston was offensively gifted enough to
turn that game into the kind of blowout that the
Steelers had experienced repeatedly in the postseason leading up to it.
And turns out the Texans offense wasn't good enough, but
the defense threw a couple of touchdowns on top of
the stink sandwich.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Stink sandwich. Those are terrible. It's a fun year, though,
Mark Madden doesn't think so. Mark's gonna join us shortly.
He is all in on tanking. Yeah, go out and
go three fourteen.
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Speaker 2 (27:03):
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Mark Madden, Mark.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Good morning, hello again everybody. Mark.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
What do you think was the impetus for Mike Tomlin
saying Enough's enough?
Speaker 16 (28:22):
I think the debacle of Monday Night made everybody, not
at least him, realize, enough's enough. That's the fifth straight
playoff loss by double digits. That's the ninth first run.
Next in Pittsburgh. We used to make fun of Marty
Schoenheimer for something that Mike Tomlin wound up matching. So
what made it evident to him? I don't know. I
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still am not quite sure how much of it was
him jumping and how much was him being pushed. But
I think even the most diehard Tomlin supporters would have
to acknowledge that it was time for his run to
come to an end. Actually, Randy, I take that back.
They're not acknowledging that we keep getting cold. Well you'll see,
You'll see the draft isn't always greener. Mike Greenberg said that,
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and I tweeted back, Listen, we're not the Jets. All
the Steeler's going to do is win one playoff game
in the next nine years, and Tomlin's successor will have
topped him well.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
So the scenario is not as set up for success
as it was when Mike Tomlin came in, and for
that matter, and for that matter, when Bill Tower took
the job from Chuck Nole.
Speaker 16 (29:26):
Uh right, there's no question about that. But that's tough
took us. I mean, do you want the job or not.
I don't think it's an attractive job. I think people
who say Marcus Freeman and Kurt Signetti, why would they
want to leave where they're at to come here? Even
though Signetti's in the inser and you know, the budget
for staff ain't going to be great. The facilities aren't great.
Like you said, it's not set up to succeed, and
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that's the organization's fault. But you got to take some steps,
and you've got to move backwards sometimes to go forward.
The last time the Steelers finished with the losing record,
they drafted Ben Roethlisberger. So I'm not as upset by
the possibility of having a few losing seasons, although I'm
sure to in our nation it will because for apoplexy.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
I am appreciative of Mike Tomlin's run here. I liked
that we had winning football all those years. I think
that it's a big difference to have meaningful football every
year in terms of the entertainment factor as a fan,
and also acknowledged that the lack of postseason success meant
something had to change, and you alluded to this, and
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I'm wondering if there was possibly the scenario which Charlie
Batch thinks that maybe the Rooney's pushed him in a direction.
I'm wondering if they said you can stay, but we
got to change these coordinators and you have to relinquish
some of the control. And that was the straw that
broke the camel's back for him.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
You know.
Speaker 16 (30:52):
I threw that out there on my show, and maybe
there's something to that, because Randall, it surprised me. He
quit Tuesday morning after showing no indication and there off
Monday night.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
If he was hiding it, he hit it.
Speaker 16 (31:03):
Very well because I just didn't figure. But I'll be blunt.
I think this organization and ownership's always been scared the
death of Mike Tomlin, and I think to confront him
in a manner like Charlie suggests and I suggested too,
would have been very uncharacteristic and come out of nowhere.
Doesn't mean it didn't happen. It's just not the way
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I would bet.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
So what do they do now? I mean, some of
the names that are being thrown out there are crazy
to me. I don't know how Marcus Freeman's name gets
thrown on top of the pile.
Speaker 16 (31:35):
Well, he's not going to take the job, whether whether
they want him, whether they should or not, he's not
going to take it. It's better off at Notre Dame.
Same with like I said Signetti in Indiana. What they
need to do is make a clean spreak from their
organizational mindset about defense and imposing their will because they
had the most expensive defense in football and it was
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terrible and I didn't see a whole lot of will
being imposed on my night. This league is about offense.
It's about scoring more and faster, and they need to
go in that directional they'll just repeat their mistakes and
not do as well as they want. The name I
keep coming back to is Clint Kubiak, the offensive coredator
at Seattle. I think he's the kind of offensive mind
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that they need to get. I would hire Kevin Stefanski,
who left the Browns. They're not going to because they're
not going to recycle the brons coach. But he's a
good offensive mind. Two time NFL Coach of the Year
and he was undone in Cleveland by ownership interference. As
regards to the Shawn Watson contract though those would be
my top two candidates.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
But they need to do more than that.
Speaker 16 (32:41):
Ran Well, they need to clear the staff out. They
usually don't. They didn't do that when Tomlin came in
and replaced Kawer. They need to push as many players
out the door as they can. But I mean TJ. Watt,
who's going to take on that contract for clearly a
clearly declining player. And I knew that was a terrible,
terrible decision when they gave him that deal. And I'm
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always right and nobody should be surprised this time. But yeah,
there's a lot more work to be done besides just
hiring the coach.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Well, this is the problem is they've got some guys
on there that they should probably get rid of. But
the cap, the dead cap, would just kill him.
Speaker 16 (33:18):
Well, then you lose for a while. Like I said,
the last time you finished under five hundred, you signed
Ben Roethlisberg. And by the way, just to clear up
what's always been a myth, that streak of no losing
seasons for Tomlin, A that was mostly Ben streak. It
started before Tomlin took over, and Ben did more to
prop it up than Tomlin for sure, and it always
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became an artificially low bar to reach that the national
media especially could crow about and say, look at Mike
tom when he's never had a losing season. But then
the negative numbers added up, like all those playoff losses
by double digits, five in a row, and that led
us to his departure.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
How many was Ben quarterback for.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Most of them?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
The playoff losses?
Speaker 16 (34:03):
Oh yeah, no, Ben's not playing less than that either.
I know you think that nothing's wrong with the team, Mike,
but there is.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I never said nothing's wrong with it. I'm just asking
a question.
Speaker 16 (34:12):
Would you have kept Tomlin? That's the question I'm asking.
I would Yep, you're insane, But everybody's that title of
their opinion.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
You're insane. Next, you two are insane? You saying, well,
I just don't.
Speaker 16 (34:26):
I just don't see the logic for keeping the guy
that just gets his bears blown off in playoff game
after playoff game. The support you'll see, you'll see what's
gonna happen. And the worst part is the next two
years it'll look like a mistake just based on one loss.
But it's the right move, absolutely the right move.
Speaker 7 (34:42):
Well, I think his biggest problem was talent assessment and
his lack of willingness to allow coordinators to have more
independence and bringing guys with a real pedigree.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
It seemed like he was okay with guys who kind
of agreed with his defensive philosophy and a more conservative
offensive approach, and that he was okay with.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
And I think he if he were more open.
Speaker 7 (35:07):
To having you know, it's I Mike and I disagree
on this. I think his lack of coaching tree is
an indictment.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
And that doesn't it.
Speaker 16 (35:16):
Doesn't mean everything, but it doesn't mean.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Nothing right, And it doesn't mean I think he was
a bad coach.
Speaker 7 (35:21):
I think that that would have really put him over
the top into untouchable territory.
Speaker 16 (35:26):
Yeah, I think he was an absolute fraud. I think
he won with Cowers, players, leaders, and culture. And the
further we got away from that, the more that became evident.
Sorry that that's what I think, and that's what the
record show.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Well, yoga became very Correlation is not causation.
Speaker 15 (35:44):
Okay, Now do the now do the all time wins?
Not do the division titles? Now do ten and seven
this year?
Speaker 16 (35:50):
Now do all I'm so excited by ten and seven.
I'm so excited by the division. Give me a right.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And all time wins.
Speaker 16 (36:01):
Is like comparing caviar and horseman. Or he couldn't carry
Chuck Noll's jock in a hockey equipment.
Speaker 8 (36:06):
Bag, would have done with AB.
Speaker 16 (36:10):
Better than well, you see, that's a tough one. That's
a tough one because he got a lot statistically on AB.
But it killed the culture and they didn't win anything.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Games.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 16 (36:21):
Right, if you're happy with that, Mike, then you'll be
happy with that.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm allowed to be happy. What makes me happy? Thank you?
Speaker 16 (36:30):
But of course, of course you are. But but I mean,
it's just I remember when this team was based on
winning super Bowls, when that was the expectation, when that
was the goal, and it didn't become just an empty
slogan they preached with no hope of doing it, like
like they had no chance at the super Bowl for
how many years, none whatsoever beyond getting in the playoffs,
and then they got killed, so it wasn't much of
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a chance. I'm sorry, this is one thousand percent the
right move.
Speaker 7 (36:56):
I don't think anybody it's not a matter of whether
it's right or not to me like, I think it's
going to be a good change for both people, like
both parties. I think everybody benefits here because something needed
to change. But if I point to one thing that
was Mike Tomlin's downfall, it was drafting Kenny Pickett, no,
no question.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
And I said it.
Speaker 16 (37:13):
Then I said, this will set the team back five years.
As it turned out, it's going to be longer. And
Mike confirmer deny he was the only guy in the
building one.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I don't, I don't have that information. Well I do, Okay,
I don't think that's how it works.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
But yeah, I think.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
I think that a guy like Kenny Pickett, who they
should have known forward and backward just by proximity, like
they should have had a better read on him than
they could have had anybody else. But that's my point
is to be that wrong about somebody that you had
that much access to really speaks to their lack of
ability to assess talent correctly. And too often, he thought
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he could author these reclamation projects from guys who only
had two or three games left in him.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Well.
Speaker 16 (38:01):
A big problem occurred during the Coward administration when Cowor
won the power struggle with the GM Tom Donaho, and
then it became the coach having final say, and that
needs to change. By the way, the GM needs to
get more input, maybe not final say, maybe final say,
but just you know, at least where the coach doesn't
say this is it period and he gets his way.
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But to do that you need a better GM. Oh
Mark Conza being Connor. He's a cap guy.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
He's not a GM.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Mark Mannen brought to you by Calusy serving the Pittsburgh
I just want.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
To say I love pursuit.
Speaker 16 (38:33):
This is I want to say I love pursuit of
This is just healthy debate.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And I'm right.
Speaker 15 (38:38):
Okay he feels I stay correct and thank you, super genius.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
See you Mark, that's Mark. I'm going to miss Coach Tomlin. Also,
I thought there's a need for a change in some regard.
So some of my favorite tomlinisms through the years. There's
a lot, you know, there's lot of many. It's a
lot that I really like. Cut off your eyelids. Love
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to cut off your eyelids.
Speaker 10 (39:07):
If you're a blinker, cut off your eyelids.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
It's just a pebble in my shoe, Just a.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Pebble in my shoe. Popcorn is popcorn. I never understood
the popcorn one. Made no sense to me.
Speaker 7 (39:25):
His explanation for it was that it meant one thing here,
one thing there, I guess because popcorn flies out of
the popcorn maker and lands all over the floor.
Speaker 15 (39:35):
Mind always it stays in the same place, like it's
in a bag, and he put the bag in a microwave,
and then popcorn comes out and it's all right there.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Popcorn does go everywhere.
Speaker 12 (39:46):
The clerk should recut penny on the floor with pebble
in my shoe.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
I like that, Take it out and keep moving.
Speaker 7 (39:55):
Big difference between squashing grapes and drinking wine.
Speaker 8 (40:00):
It's a good one, very good.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
YEA. When you have.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Red paint, your paint red standard is a standard. Kind
of drove me nut. So I'm not gonna lie to you.
I hated that one from your conturn.
Speaker 10 (40:14):
Shall always say it is what it is.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
Never say never but never. I'd rather say world and sick.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thoughtfully, non rhythmic.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
That was a big one.
Speaker 12 (40:28):
I've tried to embrace that in a lot of forums.
Speaker 7 (40:33):
You don't have to elaborate.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
I'm a volunteers, not hostages. Always a good one.
Speaker 10 (40:40):
I say it all the time.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
I do. My windshield is bigger than my rear view mirror.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
It's a good one.
Speaker 10 (40:51):
But I don't send messages make moves.
Speaker 8 (40:55):
That's that's not Steven Seagall. Why not? Both statistics are
for losers.
Speaker 16 (41:03):
Like that.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
Who do you think he said that to Elis Cannon?
I don't even think he's Is he even around over
there anyway?
Speaker 8 (41:12):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (41:13):
Football is our game. Our business is winning. It's difficult
to box without sparring another one. Yeh, got to get
comfortable with being uncomfortable.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
Do you like that?
Speaker 7 (41:29):
The one that came back to bite him in the
ass the most times, though, was we don't live in
our fears.
Speaker 8 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
That was used as a cudgel to crush Mike Tomlin
after anytime he didn't go for it on four of
the inches, anytime he punted.
Speaker 15 (41:46):
Yeah, anytime he didn't stick his hand on a burner
on a hot stove.
Speaker 8 (41:52):
Like taxi driver.
Speaker 7 (41:54):
Heinz Ward has money in my emotional bank account.
Speaker 10 (41:57):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 8 (41:59):
Do you think the interest is that?
Speaker 7 (42:02):
I can give you all the ingredients to the hot dog,
but you might not like it.
Speaker 10 (42:10):
You wouldn't really gross stuff in there?
Speaker 8 (42:16):
A lot of meat on the growth bone.
Speaker 10 (42:18):
I was waiting for you to do it, because if
you weren't going to do it.
Speaker 8 (42:22):
I'll love meet on the growth bone.
Speaker 12 (42:26):
I can't believe we haven't made a bigger deal about
that one, because that one's good.
Speaker 10 (42:33):
Yeah, where's the growth bone.
Speaker 7 (42:35):
I'm not into making predictions. I'm into making preparations. Leadership's
not about being in charge, about taking charge of those
in your charge. It's not about what we want to do.
It's about what we're about to do. I'm not into
moral victories. I'm into victories.
Speaker 12 (42:57):
Hell yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (43:03):
We're gonna pursue perfection, knowing full well we won't catch it,
but we're gonna relentlessly chase it.
Speaker 8 (43:12):
Oh wow, I'm a big believer. You don't rise to
the occasion, you sink to the level of your training.
Are you okay over there? Are you gonna you need
a fan?
Speaker 10 (43:26):
Buy me dinner next time? Before you start this list?
Speaker 8 (43:32):
When you win, nobody remembers who got the credit. These
are making me sad.
Speaker 10 (43:42):
Brandy, do you need a hug?
Speaker 8 (43:45):
I'm just gonna cut off my eyelids and move forward.
Speaker 12 (43:48):
You know, the worst or the most defensive tominism was
I don't know who cuts my grass.
Speaker 17 (43:56):
I'll never let him off the hook for that as
a landscaper. That that's when he lost me, the poor
guy who cut his grass. That guy had been telling
people four years I cut Coach Domalds.
Speaker 8 (44:14):
I'm not a big bragger. I don't like the brag,
but I do.
Speaker 5 (44:17):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (44:18):
You know I have the tom on account.
Speaker 15 (44:19):
Yeah that's ironic because a beew who cut his grass,
he just wouldn't pay him.
Speaker 7 (44:26):
That's well, thanks for the memories, Coach Tomlin, and uh,
onward and upward for everybody.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Well onward.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (44:39):
I might be down with it for a while. I
guess this means so long Aaron Rodgers, I would assume
he's not coming back to play here. He might play somewhere.
I ain't gonna be here, Arthur Smith.
Speaker 12 (44:50):
Seea McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers reunite for one last grab
of the brass ring.
Speaker 8 (44:58):
Mcarthy's not being mentioned at all.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Bring the big inser back to Greenfield.
Speaker 8 (45:02):
He could be the good Bridge guy.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (45:03):
I don't think they're gonna have another twenty year head coach.
That's just not how the league works now. So that's
the dumbest idea I ever heard bring them back, like
put the basics it, Like, hey, coach, we're bringing you
here to just restore the foundation. Expectation is simply that,
and then we're gonna bounce you in a few years
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because you're not gonna want to coach anymore anyways. And
then we'll get a platform set for the next up
and coming Ben Johnson or whoever that might be.
Speaker 15 (45:33):
How mutually it's all serious is I'm very curious if
their mindset is, Okay, we're three for three the last
three times we did this, even though it's only you know,
a seventy year window, let's run it back and do
it that way, or are they gonna embrace a new
model for what they want, Like would they consider a
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guy who's been a head coach before now, would they
consider a college guy? Would they consider something other than
the young, up and coming defensive minded.
Speaker 8 (46:04):
Yeah, I'm with you on next guy.
Speaker 12 (46:06):
You mentioned it in one of your sports updates, Mike,
and I think this has been overlooked. You need someone
who is not going to be overwhelmed by the job
right away and like horribly fatigued, someone who loves football
in the way that.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (46:20):
McCarthy fills the bill on that one. We're gonna have
coaches meetings at Zano's.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I gotta go to Alis.
Speaker 7 (46:28):
You guys tomorrow never leaves Greenfield. I gonna take a
nap and we'll figure it out, all right. We gotta Steelers.
Thanks to Tim Benz, Charlie Batch, Merril Hodge, Rob King,
Jeremy Fowler, Max Starts, and Mark Madden. We had a
full list of Steelers insiders this morning, and if you
(46:51):
want to catch any that can go back and listen
to it on the podcast Start to Finish wherever you
get your podcasts, the EV Morning Show. Michelle's up next
with the Electric Lunch at noon. Thanks Ted Whistle for
hanging out with this this morning. And uh here we
go jus Steelers. Thanks Coach T.
Speaker 8 (47:06):
I'm finished. You stay classy, Pittsburgh. Don't touch your face.
He got him tight Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (47:11):
O day baby. But now you guys call me Ronald?
Speaker 10 (47:14):
Would you not eat my pants?
Speaker 3 (47:15):
Ronald?
Speaker 8 (47:18):
Oh ma, way google it.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
It's time for the Steelers Daily Report on DVE, brought
to you by your neighborhood Fords Store and Steelers Pro Shop.
Get it direct from the team at shop dot Steelers
dot com.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Here's Tom Opperman.
Speaker 18 (47:36):
For the first time since two thousand and seven, the
Pittsburgh Steelers are in the market for a new head coach.
Coach Mike Tomlin decided to step down yesterday afternoon after nineteen.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Seasons as head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 18 (47:47):
By Tomlin leaves behind a legacy that includes a Super
Bowl Championship, two AFC Championships, eight AFC North Division titles,
thirteen total playoff appearances, and of course.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Never having had a losing season. The news comes on the.
Speaker 18 (47:59):
Heel of the Steelers losing thirty to six to the
Texans in the Wild Cut Round Monday night, the team's
seventh straight playoff loss, the worse than franchise history. The
Steelers will now enter into a coaching market where they
will be competing with eight other NFL teams searching for
a head coach, including their division rivals Baltimore and Cleveland.
As far as what's next for Mike Tomlin, well, that
remains to be seen, although it has been reported by
(48:20):
ESPNS Adam Scheffer that is expected that he will take
a year off from coaching and potentially pursue other ventures
like television. Whenever Tomlin decides, the fact remains the Steelers
will be looking for just the fourth head coach and
team history.
Speaker 8 (48:32):
Since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 18 (48:34):
And seeing as the previous three are all Super Bowl
champions and two of three are already in Kenon with
Mike Tomlin surely on his way as the third, eventually,
the shoes are going to be pretty big to fill
for whoever does get the job. Steelers owner and president
Art Rooney will speak to the media today at noon
to address coach Tomlin stepping down.
Speaker 8 (48:53):
I'm Tom Aferman with the Steelers Report. He goes forth,
He's got it.
Speaker 7 (49:00):
That's another legendary play for Pittsburgh, perfectly displays the precision
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