May 13, 2026 • 30 mins
Mark and Tommy Baseball talk about Skenes dominance and if he really is the greatest pitcher of all time. Plus Geno talk and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Mark Madden Show. We got a real
riggating Don Dandy going today. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden X. Now, the problem with Tobacco game last
night was there were only thirteen k there, thirteen k
with skins on the mound and great weather and a
legit team and the best ball park of America. So
(00:25):
Pittsburgh isn't a baseball town. It just talks like it is.
All y'all said, time and again, give us a good team,
we're gonna show up. Well, they got a good team
and the best pitcher ever, and you're still showing up,
only very selectively, and you celebrate yourselves when the place
is packed on weekends or for bobbleheads. The best pitcher
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maybe in baseball history through last night and only thirteen
k if you showed up. If you're not embarrassed, I'm
embarrassed for you. By the way, somebody did see Aaron
Rodgers in Pittsburgh this past week and he was at
Motel six in Crafton with Diana Russini.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You spanked that ass less.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And of course we got the Dubas press conference to
rehash and the Geno situation. I wrote a column about
it at Triple Live dot com that's currently posted. I've
reexamp in everything Dubas said yesterday, and my conclusion is
that he doesn't want to keep Malkin, but he probably will,
(01:35):
even though keeping Malkin certainly wasn't Dubas's plan before this
past season started. If Dubas wanted a deal with Malca
to be done, it would be if we would love
to have Geno back for another season, unquote, it would
already be signed, sealed, and delivered, like it is with
Duer and solely off. There's not likely a lot of
(01:58):
negotiation to be done with gene know and his agent
JP Barry, unless Gino wants two years, which I have
heard and would not give him like Ovechkin wants two
years in Washington. Now is it money because Geno might
might get a better ticket from a legit contender, you know,
(02:19):
proven winner shows the young kids, YadA YadA, But that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Would only be for one year.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That would make Gino look really bad if money was
the deciding factor like it was with Yoger back when
remember that oh I would play for Mario for free
and then he signs with the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But Malkin ain't Yoger a.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Better penguin, and I do take him at his word
when he says his first preference is to play in Pittsburgh. Yo,
it'd be tough for Dubis to not bring Malkin back
now after saying he wants to yesterday. But still, based
on the press conference, reading between the lines, actually listening,
which a lot of people didn't do when Duba spoke
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reading between the lines, it sounds like Malcolin is more
out than in. That's what it sounds like in in actuality,
Geno's probably more in than not. I keep going back
and forth on this, but now Dubas is off to
Switzerland for the World Championships as part of the Canada staff,
so this is gonna drag out. It looks like it
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is significant that Dubas said that Marcin doesn't block anybody,
which he doesn't not in the top six like Coyvenon.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Ain't that not yet? Maybe not ever? Maybe he's a for.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
A player, but he does block Kindle and China Cuff
on the power play. If Muse lets that happen again,
I'm gonna hate it if it drags out, because there's
no need they signed do or they signed solely off.
If they I'd love to have Geno back for another year,
(04:03):
it should already be done. So that's the ballad of
Afginea Malkin. Just use Aaron Rodgers on that second line.
Oh wait, bring back Bugsy, bring back Ryan Malone. In
a vacuum, I wouldn't bring Malkin back. I've said that frequently,
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but this is not a vacuum. The Malkin conversation at
the dupis pressure. That was the news that sprung forth
everything else we kind of knew, or at least we
see the focus, you know again reading between the lines.
And when that's all you got, ain't nobody shaild have
(04:48):
a problem. Dubis didn't talk about doing what can help
the Penguins win. He talked about doing what can help
the organization in pro and that is a subtle difference.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Like I said, between the lines is all we got,
But I emphasize if the Penguins would love to have
Malkin brother season, it should and could already be done.
Just like with Deer and Soliof. What you're telling me
Doer and Solioff getting them tied up way ahead of
(05:27):
the free agency. That hits on July first, you're telling
me that's a bigger priority then bringing back Gino because
it looks like it was. We're gonna talk a lot
aboutco baseball, especially next in the bucka roundup. O'Neil Cruz
got three hits last night and made a very good
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play in the otfield. Also might have had the ball
that dropped for hit and broke up the Skeens no hitter,
but Skins wouldn't have pitched the night. That's what I
hear anyway, And that was a tough play that Cruz
couldn't quite make.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He definitely gave maximum effort.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But so Cruz has a good game, as he does sometimes,
and people are singing his praises La di da, and
baseball fans in this town don't they don't. Baseball fans
in Pittsburgh don't understand baseball. Cruz has great moments, great games,
long home runs, even the odd great catch, but baseball
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is cumulative more than any sport. It adds up with
baseball and consistency is paramount. So yeah, go buy your
Cruise jerseys. But O'Neil Cruz ain't the kind of guy
that helps you win, not enough, because he's not consistent
and he's not cumulative. Weirdest part about waking up today.
(06:52):
I live in a town where the Steelers pay the
kicker seven million dollars and still don't know who their
quarterback is. Up next five nine, brewed by the bold
mines behind the brand.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Note when you got.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A young trophy white, Oh's money that I can't even
quote the big o'bowski right goodbye the exit one nine.
We should get the new Grene Van Fleet song for
the lead in for this segment. It's time for the
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Buco roundup. We talked about Skeens and his insanely good
performance last night. He's like Godzilla, just wades through the
center of town, destroying everything in his wake. Skeen's whip
the side and the top of the first. Gonzalez hit
a RBI single in the bottom of the first, one nil,
game over, and then Skeen struck out the side top
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of the second, and the first Colorado hitter bunned top
of the third just so they could put the ball
in play, and Skeen's kind of Riley commented, it looked
like good bun. Skeen's can't demoralize you right away. Make
it clear you have no chance, and he did that
last night. O'Neill Cruise had three hits and score two runs.
(08:08):
Back at PNC tonight, Mitch Keller versus Xbo Jose, Quintana
F and Quintana that creep conroll Man.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Here's a little sound that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I've mooted on this program of Jared Jones might work
out of the bullpen when he returns the Pirates upon
completion of his rehab assignment. Here's Jones talking to a
reporter after making a rehab start. Which class double A Altoona?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Is there any change for a bullpen? Can you get
back to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I'll throw a bullpena a Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean like and when you work out of the
next question.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So it really doesn't sound like Jones wants to pitch
relief and I get it. But Jones ain't done enough
or been around long enough to call his own shots
like a snarky little prick. Let's talk now to Tommy Baseball.
Tom I'll come. Only thirteen K turned up at PNC
to Paul Skeen's pitch last night.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The weather was good. The Poates are doing okay. What happened.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm scratching my head over it as well. I really
don't understand. I mean, I guess maybe you don't expect
to sell out. No, you shouldn't expect to sell out.
It's Paul Skien's the best pitcher in maybe baseball history
on the mound. The Pirates are actually a relevant team
that are competing for a playoff spot. So it baffles
me that people weren't at the stadium. I think when
I go on Twitter, I see a lot of you know,
(09:31):
it's too expensive being thrown around there, but I think
you can still get a pretty decent price on the
second market. And to be quite honest with you, I
know this year I'm gonna spend like forty fifty dollars
probably on a ticket to go see Skiens pitch.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Skiens is something else.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
All you do is get that standing room pass and
give an USh your ten bucks and you can sit
wherever you want on a night like last night.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's baseball too.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know if you're like this, you might not
be like this, But market, when I go to Pirate games,
I walk around the stadium a decent amount of time,
you know what I mean? Like I'm out in the outfields.
Sometimes I get a beer at the fat Heads that's
out there. I don't know if that's still there, by
the way, But you know what I'm saying, like it's
a little.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Bit mostly should do that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think the bat Stars because they maintained their brewery
right despite closing closing the uh the south Side location.
But but yeah, I I I should do that because
that I gotta go get the corn dog when I
when I and I'm gonna go soon. But I I
like to sit in that that I forget what it's called,
like the the suite where you can buy a single
ticket in above the third baseline. But but I just
(10:26):
don't get people not going. And we always got told
if it's a good team, that ballpark will be filled. Well,
now it's a good team, and you got skins on
top of that, and they had thirteen K last night.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And the other excuse that you liked or you hear
from people too, is that the kids are still in
school right like, wait until the summer months happen. I
don't buy that right now, because the games start at
six forty. They start a little bit earlier anyway, and
they're over faster than ever because of the pitch clock
and also when Skins is mowing people down like you
is that game takes like two hours to finish.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, even Bozo the columnist, what what's his real.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I think it is Bozo the columnist, isn't it? No,
Smiza Smice, I didn't know if you really wanted me
to say it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Everybody else forgot them, why would I be any different?
But but but he's the biggest baseball nut there is
and even he was was ruing the amount of people
on hands for Skien Start last night, So it makes
no sense. It's it's disappointing, and it shows that Pittsburgh
sports fans mostly just liked to talk because they said
they'd be there. And last night only thirteen k warks,
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So tonight's gonna be dead too.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Write like Mitch Keller on the mound, Like there's Mitch
Keller's good, but he ain't a Skiens draw, Like are
we talking less than ten k for a game tonight?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Attendants at PNC Park depends on giveaways, fireworks and weekends,
and we.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Used to think that wasn't true. And it'll pick up
like in.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Summer, well, you know, July August when the kids are
out of school.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's a cliche, but it does help a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But the Skiens factor is supposed to be the draw too,
Like he's supposed to be in that category with the
fireworks and the giveaways.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is the baseball town it pretends to be. That park
should have at least twenty five thousand in it every
single time Skians pitches, every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And look, I mean, I think as a Pirate fan myself,
I'd be doing myself a disservice to not see Schens
at least a couple of times during the season. And
I think every Pirates fan should do that because he
ain't gonna be here forever. And this is literally maybe
the best picture we've ever seen grace a Mountains. No,
I hate that declarative, you know, to crown him now
(12:27):
right vat stuff?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, but he might be. It doesn't stop with him.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Do it when I hate to do it. I hate
people who do do it. That says an awful lot.
It's absolutely warranted with him. He hasn't walked a batter
since April thirteenth. It's been an entire month since he's
issued a walk. That's you want to talk about overwhelming
hitters and making them think they have no chance. If
he's not walking you at all, there's nothing you're gonna
be able to do.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
He's a complete master. And I've been playing a little
fun game lately. Mark, I've been looking up on baseball
references pitchers who have made at least twenty starts in
three consecutive seasons to have a sub two ERA, which
is on the table for skiing this year. I can't
find one yet. Bob Gibson, he didn't do that. Clayton
Kershaw didn't do that. Randy Johnson didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do that, and did it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He did not have three straight years. No, it's I
have not found a single picture. Throw another name other.
I can't find one that's done it, and that's on the.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Table for him.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well, that's why I keep making comparison to Bob Gibson
in nineteen sixty eight when he had a one point
one two ERA.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Maybe the best season ever.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Schemes might have a career not like that, not one
point one two career era, but but not far from it.
I cited de Graham as the more recent benchmark at
two point five seven career era, and Skeens is a
different type of picture, more of a power picture, although
de Gram, I mean he could could get to one hundred. Yeah, yeah,
(13:43):
Rom had some power too, But okay, de Gram had power.
Schemes overwhelms and de.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Grom got hurt because I think de Gram had a
lot of that same thing that plagues a lot of pictures.
They don't have the frame that Skeens does, so they
really kind of overthrow to get that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Do you feel like it's inevitable Schemes blows out his
elbow at some point?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'll say yes, just because it happens to all these pictures,
But his frame makes me doubt it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
He's so big a can you imagine his numbers if
he ain't the guy, if he doesn't lose like a season,
season and a half and even imperceptibly, you know, a
half mile prior velosity? Can you mention the numbers he
might put up over his career?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I can't, honestly. And you talked about the Bob Gibson
season was a one point one two e er if
you take away cruises, you know, bleep show on opening
day in center field.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That era is down to one point oh one right now.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So we literally might be witnessing the Bob Gibson season
play out in front of us.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Who figured that out? POMPYNI on Twitter, Yeah, I think
he took away those earned runs. He needs to get
out and touch grass. Then again, no one to talk.
Have you been to a park game yet this year?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Not yet? This year? I gotta go. See I'm kind
of as guilty as all these other people are.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, I have not yet this year either, and I
didn't go all of last year, which is the first
time since I can't remember when where it didn't go
to even one game. But you know, here's I still
don't trust them, and the fact that they look like
they're turning a corner makes me trust the ownership even
I don't know why, unbelie. I don't believe they'll finish
it off and they'll just piss.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Me off more.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
No, I totally get that sentiment, like now you're seeing
how close they actually legitimately are, but you just know
deep down he's not gonna put it over the finish line.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
He's just not going to commit them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
We talk about making a big splash of the trade
deadline or earlier than that, but it always gets hung
up with me that he's not going to pay the
freight for some superstar player that's out there that's under
like a four year deal.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
What does intrigue me?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If they get a cap Skeens is capable with the
amount of cap room they have, especially you know he'd
be capable, then it kind of sh When I say
when I say cap room, I'm not talking about reaching
the cap I'm talking about they could They could keep
Skeens and reach the floor.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Then they got to reach the floor. Then that it
gives the pirates a puncher's chance. But then I think
it kind of shifts to what Skeens want to stay
in Pittsburgh or would he want to go to a Yankee.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Like I was on on the DV Morning show congratulates
the Tad Whistle by the way getting the comedian spot
on that show.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And he got free donuts for us today, which was great.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I really appreciate, I told our RPD machine. I said,
I really appreciate like limitless bakery being laid out in
front of me as I tried to do Awake in
one to eighty but I did not succumb, not not yet.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Anyway. It's a long time till six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But uh, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go soon.
I'll sit in the fancy, spancy seats.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I liked the one.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It was a Cambriy club. I could remember the name
Cambria Club. Yeah, what's it called?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Now? Is it like the Captain Morgan or something like that?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Kind of tequila a thing? That's what I was.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, I said that, and now I forget what I said.
See what I mean, Mike, playing that sixty five is.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Like a sieve.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
You said yesterday, you just the day you tapped the microphone?
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Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, the news just keeps breaking. Not only did Chris
bos Will get a four year deal worth seven million
dollars per to kick for the Steelers, he's having a
press conference Friday. That's the first time I ever heard
of a kicker having a contract signing press conference. My
question would be, you're the only guy out there who
doesn't risk his life, but you're making seven million anyway.
Comment I found the name of that. It was the
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Cambria Club. It was named after a tequila gimmick. Like
the last couple of years, now it's the VIP lunch.
They need a sponsor. But I will go there, hopefully
in the your future, to watch a Bucko game. I'll
get that crowd up to thirteen thousand and one. It's
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Speaker 2 (19:28):
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Yeah, along lines with pirate attendants rights in pirate attendance
is tough right now with Little League baseball. I would
have taken my kid down to the skeen start last night,
but I was coaching third base with two to three
games and one to two practices a week until June win.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Do I have time to hit the ballpark?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let me offer you some advice, sir, Your kid's no good.
Tom I got a Wilkes Barry Scranton update. Wilkes opened
it its Atlantic Division final last night against Springfield, beat
him two nil, Moorshoff with a shutout. Bill Zonen, one
of the first round picks from this past season, made
his pro debut after finishing his junior season. Scored the
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first goal and by all accounts, looked pretty good in
his debut pro game. You see I've projected Zonen as
a real good third line center, but that's not to
say he can't do better. He is a first round
pick and I've heard people compare him to Troty a
boy if only but if he has elements of that,
that'll be good. But it's just so tough to predict
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in a draft, a sport where eighteen year olds get drafted.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh absolutely, it's a crapshoot.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean, I think even more so in a sport
like hockey like it's just it's it's so hard to
see how these guys are going to take to that
kind of level of but z on and looked awesome
last night. He looked shot out of a can. I
saw his goal on social media. Outstanding.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's awesome, much good place, tough, plays everything.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But I mean, the apple of your eye once again
had to be the man in net right twenty four
for twenty four, Mirishov was just outstanding again to shut
out to get the baby Pens off and running in
this series against Syracuse. I mean, he is the star
for the future of the Penguins. They don't have anybody
as far as a forward as concerned, but they got
one in the net.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I heard he's a direct descendant of Stalin.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I like that even more.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No that you know how I know that's not true.
I'm assuming since he killed everybody, that they killed his
descendants when the time came. H Tom, we've been talking
about the Balkan thing. What what's your take on that?
We talked briefly yesterday. But the more I parsed what
was said and what wasn't said, I conclude that they
really wanted to keep him. The deal would be done already.
(21:35):
That doesn't mean they won't keep him, but but love
to keep him. Would would would indicate he could and
should be signed already, like like doer and like uh,
solely off.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's where I wanted to go with you with this,
because that's exactly where I've been at over these past
twenty four hours. It just it doesn't track in my
mind that this contract's not signed. If Malkin wants to
be a penguin, if Dubis actually meant what he said
where he would love for him to be back, it's
there's no cow that really makes logical sense why they'll
be hanging up.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Is it because he wants two years? Does he want
more than six point one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I can't imagine that that would even be realistically on
the table, and Malkins Camp could expect that as Dubas
trying to lowball him.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I feel like I'm stretching every time I come with
one of those examples. It just doesn't make sense that
this isn't done.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think six point one mil, like the average annual
value of the prior contract, the one he just completed.
I think that's more than reasonable. I would try to
lowball him a little bit, but I'd settle for six
point one same deal, but only one year. To me,
a two year deal is a deal breaker, though it
wouldn't surprise me if that's what he wanted, because that's
reportedly now what OVI wants.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
In Washington.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But Wash has no choice because.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He's their all time best player in the all time
NHL leading goal scorer. Pittsburgh, I mean, Pittsburgh feels compelled.
I'm sure to keep him, but not like Washington is
compelled to keep over.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Washington has to keep Ovie.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I actually love hearing that OVI wants two years, and
he's kind of bending them over a barrel because screw
the Capitol. I'd like to see them avoid turning the
page as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
With him being like twenty thirty pounds overweight, that food
bill ain't going to pay for itself.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So back to Geno, though, I guess it's the two
year thing, right Like, if there's a legitimate hang up
as to why we're on quote unquote Malcoln Watch day
one right now, it would have to be because his
camp is pushing for two years of security and Dubis
is just drawing a line like, look, if I were
to present to you my honest opinion, I didn't even
know if I wanted to bring you back anyway, Gino,
after the year you had. But I'm willing to do it,
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but only at one year. And that's kind of that
where they're stuck right now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If the two year thing is a deal breaker and
Gina won't move off it and he leaves, then the
peng would need to say that, Yeah, we need to
say we were perfectly content to keep him for one year.
And again we're reading between the lines here, but I
have heard that he wants two years. I heard that
dating back to when he had his snit fit and
then got suspended because you didn't get the contract when
he wanted it at about the two thirds point of
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the season, and I the only other thing that could
be is that they don't want him.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, but I don't know. I feel if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It'd be tough now that Duba said he wants them, because.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because then what is your excuse? Right, Like, what what
changed there? Even though he was lying right to your deal?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
That's what you would do. You have to present them that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Said Dubas said, the Penguins would love to he said,
wed himself under the umbrella.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well no, he's he's by by attachment under the umbrella.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But he I don't think, he said, I like, I
personally would love Kyle Dubis wants to see if Guinny
Malcolm is the Pittsburgh Pengo would.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Be great if you would have said the third person, well,
just Kyle Dubas wants Gino back.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So then I guess, like Jimmy and Seinfeld, so I
guess if we then go down the path of okay,
so there is you know, maybe Kyle trying to get
the ear of people behind the scenes and say let's
try to move on from Malcolm.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Maybe that's the reason why we have this Malcolm watch.
Either way, it just baffling to me that we don't
know yet, that there is still kind of tendency.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Baffling to me that we don't know. But it's not
tells the story. And I thought most people who wrote
about it and talked about it totally missed that story
yesterday that they said Dubus wants him back, he's gonna
be back, but he's not yet back. He's not yet signed,
and that contradicts because again doer solely off less important.
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But their deals are done easier deals to do, to
be sure. But but Gino to me, Gino, I gave
him six point one one year take it or leave,
the same deal. Then if he leaves it, I make
sure people know that he's the one who left it.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yes, same deal. As far as av he can't.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Give it longer term than sid although that's the other
story we're gonna have to deal with because if he's
not signed to an extension on the first day he
can on July first, all the fantasy fiction guys in canon,
they're gonna try to, you know, right his way and
talk his way to Montreal.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Especially with how the habs are right now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like if they fall short, like say they lose in
the Eastern Conference finals, so they gets bounced by Buffalo,
that's just gonna add gasoline to that fire because they're
so close and they just need said to get him
over the finish line.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I touched on this, uh yesterday. I mean, like
I said, my brain's like a sieve. But but he's
not easy to trade because you know, what you would
want from Montreal, they couldn't give without damaging their attempt
to win the Cup, not just you know, immediately, but
moving into the future now. I talked to a Penguin's
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insider today because I have insiders too, and he said, well,
you might reach the point if he doesn't extend where
you'd have to trade it for something like anything you
could get.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I just wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Then you let him walk for free. That's just bad,
bad move by an organization to let that happen. It is,
but then there's no doubt about who the bad guy is. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But and let me tell you sit and again we're
just kind of spitballing here because I don't expect him
to ever leave. But I do know that if he
doesn't sign an extension on July first, that the spit
will hit the fan.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And he's going to be pissed off when if Gino
doesn't get the extension, if they do, in fact move
on from Gena, he's not going to like that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
All this little kid, I want my guy here and
you know, friends forever, and YadA YadA. That's never been
the Penguins. It shouldn't be the Penguins.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I mean, you lay this example out over and over.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Again, but don't forget.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We're reading minds here, true, and the Penguins read minds too.
Like I always say, when we got Iggy in thirteen
to play with Sid and he never did because Sid
said to the media, I'm content to play with Duper
and Cooney. Sid never went to the coach, never went
to Bosman, said I want to play with Duper and Cooney.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
They read that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
He just kind of threw it out there.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They try to read what he wants, and to be honest,
they're pretty good at doing it, at least today.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, you have laid out so many times about
what they did in the nineties and they had to
trade for talking and you know how Lemieux took that
and how it was a professional locker. We had Porky
on the show on Monday. Remember he was like losing
his mind. He was like, I'd like to believe that
they would be grown ups and they would be professionals.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Close friends on the Penguins. Back then, it was like
a revolving door of them coming and going. Yes and
Amy Quinn, Mark Reki, Paul Coffee.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
All business and all moves that were good hockey moves
that helped the Penguins win and put the Penguins in
a better spot to win. And we having gone from Geno,
people will disagree with this, but it's true. We'll put
the Penguins in a better spot to win moving forward.
Maybe not immediately next year because he won nineteen goals
in a point per game, but moving forward for the
long term, this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I think so too, but but you know it,
just Geno Gino, Gino, Gino. And again, if he doesn't
play here next year and plays like for the Flyers,
my god, it's something that will permeate the conversation in
that locker room all year.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Some other stuff in the hockey world, What do you
think of Matthew Schaeffer getting Rookie of the Year obvious choice.
Kendall finished ninth in the voting. I thought that was
a little bit head scratching, although his game doesn't really
translate to the flash where voters would put him.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Up on the ballet and didn't have the stats, didn't
have the highlight reel. But I want him on my team.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
He is going to be Is this the Kindle ceiling?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Is this appropriate to say a two hundred foot like
Selki type of candidate who can put in twenty five
goals like that's his absolute ceiling.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yes, but his points will be inflated by his power
play genius if they ever let him play it on
the first June.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Which is what Gino's blocking specifically next year. And then
the other thing I wanted to bring up in the
hockey world was Berube getting fired by the Maple leaf.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let me let me back, Gino isn't blocking Kindle because
they both play on opposite sides. They're unwillingness to make
sure Rusty and racks get get theirs on the power
play is.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
What Block's kinder Okay, Gino blocks Ginakov, which I want
chinakoff on that right half wall. Gino's shot was electric
at one point in time, and it was great on
the power play. That's Chinakov now like the other Russia
now has the electric shot that needs to be on
the power play.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We could fair catch Geno's shot. Now now today, what
about Berube. I think it's hilarious, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I mean, the Leafs are just completely in a tailspin,
except then I kind of remind myself that they're about
to get McKenna or Stenberg.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
The maple Leafs had a better season than the Penguins
because they're gonna get McKenna and Stenberg, and all the
Penguins did was lose to the Flyers.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
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Speaker 4 (30:09):
Our well interrupt this regularly schedule win Auto dot Com
This is the Mark Madden Show. We got a real
riggating Don Dandy going today. Follow me on Twitter at
Mark Madden X. Now, the problem with Tobacco game last
night was there were only thirteen k there, thirteen k
with skins on the mound and great weather and a
legit team and the best ball park of America. So
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Pittsburgh isn't a baseball town. It just talks like it is.
All y'all said, time and again, give us a good team,
we're gonna show up. Well, they got a good team
and the best pitcher ever, and you're still showing up,
only very selectively, and you celebrate yourselves when the place
is packed on weekends or for bobbleheads. The best pitcher
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maybe in baseball history through last night and only thirteen
k if you showed up. If you're not embarrassed, I'm
embarrassed for you. By the way, somebody did see Aaron
Rodgers in Pittsburgh this past week and he was at
Motel six in Crafton with Diana Russini.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You spanked that ass less.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
And of course we got the Dubas press conference to
rehash and the Geno situation. I wrote a column about
it at Triple Live dot com that's currently posted. I've
reexamp in everything Dubas said yesterday, and my conclusion is
that he doesn't want to keep Malkin, but he probably will,
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even though keeping Malkin certainly wasn't Dubas's plan before this
past season started. If Dubas wanted a deal with Malca
to be done, it would be if we would love
to have Geno back for another season, unquote, it would
already be signed, sealed, and delivered, like it is with
Duer and solely off. There's not likely a lot of
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negotiation to be done with gene know and his agent
JP Barry, unless Gino wants two years, which I have
heard and would not give him like Ovechkin wants two
years in Washington. Now is it money because Geno might
might get a better ticket from a legit contender, you know,
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proven winner shows the young kids, YadA YadA, But that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Would only be for one year.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That would make Gino look really bad if money was
the deciding factor like it was with Yoger back when
remember that oh I would play for Mario for free
and then he signs with the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
But Malkin ain't Yoger a.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Better penguin, and I do take him at his word
when he says his first preference is to play in Pittsburgh. Yo,
it'd be tough for Dubis to not bring Malkin back
now after saying he wants to yesterday. But still, based
on the press conference, reading between the lines, actually listening,
which a lot of people didn't do when Duba spoke
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reading between the lines, it sounds like Malcolin is more
out than in. That's what it sounds like in in actuality,
Geno's probably more in than not. I keep going back
and forth on this, but now Dubas is off to
Switzerland for the World Championships as part of the Canada staff,
so this is gonna drag out. It looks like it
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is significant that Dubas said that Marcin doesn't block anybody,
which he doesn't not in the top six like Coyvenon.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Ain't that not yet? Maybe not ever? Maybe he's a for.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
A player, but he does block Kindle and China Cuff
on the power play. If Muse lets that happen again,
I'm gonna hate it if it drags out, because there's
no need they signed do or they signed solely off.
If they I'd love to have Geno back for another year,
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it should already be done. So that's the ballad of
Afginea Malkin. Just use Aaron Rodgers on that second line.
Oh wait, bring back Bugsy, bring back Ryan Malone. In
a vacuum, I wouldn't bring Malkin back. I've said that frequently,
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but this is not a vacuum. The Malkin conversation at
the dupis pressure. That was the news that sprung forth
everything else we kind of knew, or at least we
see the focus, you know again reading between the lines.
And when that's all you got, ain't nobody shaild have
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a problem. Dubis didn't talk about doing what can help
the Penguins win. He talked about doing what can help
the organization in pro and that is a subtle difference.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Like I said, between the lines is all we got,
But I emphasize if the Penguins would love to have
Malkin brother season, it should and could already be done.
Just like with Deer and Soliof. What you're telling me
Doer and Solioff getting them tied up way ahead of
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the free agency. That hits on July first, you're telling
me that's a bigger priority then bringing back Gino because
it looks like it was. We're gonna talk a lot
aboutco baseball, especially next in the bucka roundup. O'Neil Cruz
got three hits last night and made a very good
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play in the otfield. Also might have had the ball
that dropped for hit and broke up the Skeens no hitter,
but Skins wouldn't have pitched the night. That's what I
hear anyway, And that was a tough play that Cruz
couldn't quite make.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
He definitely gave maximum effort.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But so Cruz has a good game, as he does sometimes,
and people are singing his praises La di da, and
baseball fans in this town don't they don't. Baseball fans
in Pittsburgh don't understand baseball. Cruz has great moments, great games,
long home runs, even the odd great catch, but baseball
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is cumulative more than any sport. It adds up with
baseball and consistency is paramount. So yeah, go buy your
Cruise jerseys. But O'Neil Cruz ain't the kind of guy
that helps you win, not enough, because he's not consistent
and he's not cumulative. Weirdest part about waking up today.
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I live in a town where the Steelers pay the
kicker seven million dollars and still don't know who their
quarterback is. Up next five nine, brewed by the bold
mines behind the brand.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Note when you got.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
A young trophy white, Oh's money that I can't even
quote the big o'bowski right goodbye the exit one nine.
We should get the new Grene Van Fleet song for
the lead in for this segment. It's time for the
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Buco roundup. We talked about Skeens and his insanely good
performance last night. He's like Godzilla, just wades through the
center of town, destroying everything in his wake. Skeen's whip
the side and the top of the first. Gonzalez hit
a RBI single in the bottom of the first, one nil,
game over, and then Skeen struck out the side top
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of the second, and the first Colorado hitter bunned top
of the third just so they could put the ball
in play, and Skeen's kind of Riley commented, it looked
like good bun. Skeen's can't demoralize you right away. Make
it clear you have no chance, and he did that
last night. O'Neill Cruise had three hits and score two runs.
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Back at PNC tonight, Mitch Keller versus Xbo Jose, Quintana
F and Quintana that creep conroll Man.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Here's a little sound that's kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I've mooted on this program of Jared Jones might work
out of the bullpen when he returns the Pirates upon
completion of his rehab assignment. Here's Jones talking to a
reporter after making a rehab start. Which class double A Altoona?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Is there any change for a bullpen? Can you get
back to Pittsburgh?
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Yeah, I'll throw a bullpena a Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean like and when you work out of the
next question.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
So it really doesn't sound like Jones wants to pitch
relief and I get it. But Jones ain't done enough
or been around long enough to call his own shots
like a snarky little prick. Let's talk now to Tommy Baseball.
Tom I'll come. Only thirteen K turned up at PNC
to Paul Skeen's pitch last night.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The weather was good. The Poates are doing okay. What happened.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I'm scratching my head over it as well. I really
don't understand. I mean, I guess maybe you don't expect
to sell out. No, you shouldn't expect to sell out.
It's Paul Skien's the best pitcher in maybe baseball history
on the mound. The Pirates are actually a relevant team
that are competing for a playoff spot. So it baffles
me that people weren't at the stadium. I think when
I go on Twitter, I see a lot of you know,
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it's too expensive being thrown around there, but I think
you can still get a pretty decent price on the
second market. And to be quite honest with you, I
know this year I'm gonna spend like forty fifty dollars
probably on a ticket to go see Skiens pitch.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Skiens is something else.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
All you do is get that standing room pass and
give an USh your ten bucks and you can sit
wherever you want on a night like last night.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's baseball too.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I don't know if you're like this, you might not
be like this, But market, when I go to Pirate games,
I walk around the stadium a decent amount of time,
you know what I mean? Like I'm out in the outfields.
Sometimes I get a beer at the fat Heads that's
out there. I don't know if that's still there, by
the way, But you know what I'm saying, like it's
a little.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Bit mostly should do that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I think the bat Stars because they maintained their brewery
right despite closing closing the uh the south Side location.
But but yeah, I I I should do that because
that I gotta go get the corn dog when I
when I and I'm gonna go soon. But I I
like to sit in that that I forget what it's called,
like the the suite where you can buy a single
ticket in above the third baseline. But but I just
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don't get people not going. And we always got told
if it's a good team, that ballpark will be filled. Well,
now it's a good team, and you got skins on
top of that, and they had thirteen K last night.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
And the other excuse that you liked or you hear
from people too, is that the kids are still in
school right like, wait until the summer months happen. I
don't buy that right now, because the games start at
six forty. They start a little bit earlier anyway, and
they're over faster than ever because of the pitch clock
and also when Skins is mowing people down like you
is that game takes like two hours to finish.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, even Bozo the columnist, what what's his real.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I think it is Bozo the columnist, isn't it? No,
Smiza Smice, I didn't know if you really wanted me
to say it.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Everybody else forgot them, why would I be any different?
But but but he's the biggest baseball nut there is
and even he was was ruing the amount of people
on hands for Skien Start last night, So it makes
no sense. It's it's disappointing, and it shows that Pittsburgh
sports fans mostly just liked to talk because they said
they'd be there. And last night only thirteen k warks,
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So tonight's gonna be dead too.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Write like Mitch Keller on the mound, Like there's Mitch
Keller's good, but he ain't a Skiens draw, Like are
we talking less than ten k for a game tonight?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Attendants at PNC Park depends on giveaways, fireworks and weekends,
and we.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Used to think that wasn't true. And it'll pick up
like in.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Summer, well, you know, July August when the kids are
out of school.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
That's a cliche, but it does help a bit.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But the Skiens factor is supposed to be the draw too,
Like he's supposed to be in that category with the
fireworks and the giveaways.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Is the baseball town it pretends to be. That park
should have at least twenty five thousand in it every
single time Skians pitches, every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
And look, I mean, I think as a Pirate fan myself,
I'd be doing myself a disservice to not see Schens
at least a couple of times during the season. And
I think every Pirates fan should do that because he
ain't gonna be here forever. And this is literally maybe
the best picture we've ever seen grace a Mountains. No,
I hate that declarative, you know, to crown him now
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right vat stuff?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, but he might be. It doesn't stop with him.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Do it when I hate to do it. I hate
people who do do it. That says an awful lot.
It's absolutely warranted with him. He hasn't walked a batter
since April thirteenth. It's been an entire month since he's
issued a walk. That's you want to talk about overwhelming
hitters and making them think they have no chance. If
he's not walking you at all, there's nothing you're gonna
be able to do.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
He's a complete master. And I've been playing a little
fun game lately. Mark, I've been looking up on baseball
references pitchers who have made at least twenty starts in
three consecutive seasons to have a sub two ERA, which
is on the table for skiing this year. I can't
find one yet. Bob Gibson, he didn't do that. Clayton
Kershaw didn't do that. Randy Johnson didn't.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Do that, and did it.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
He did not have three straight years. No, it's I
have not found a single picture. Throw another name other.
I can't find one that's done it, and that's on the.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Table for him.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Well, that's why I keep making comparison to Bob Gibson
in nineteen sixty eight when he had a one point
one two ERA.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Maybe the best season ever.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Schemes might have a career not like that, not one
point one two career era, but but not far from it.
I cited de Graham as the more recent benchmark at
two point five seven career era, and Skeens is a
different type of picture, more of a power picture, although
de Gram, I mean he could could get to one hundred. Yeah, yeah,
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Rom had some power too, But okay, de Gram had power.
Schemes overwhelms and de.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Grom got hurt because I think de Gram had a
lot of that same thing that plagues a lot of pictures.
They don't have the frame that Skeens does, so they
really kind of overthrow to get that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Do you feel like it's inevitable Schemes blows out his
elbow at some point?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'll say yes, just because it happens to all these pictures,
But his frame makes me doubt it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
He's so big a can you imagine his numbers if
he ain't the guy, if he doesn't lose like a season,
season and a half and even imperceptibly, you know, a
half mile prior velosity? Can you mention the numbers he
might put up over his career?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I can't, honestly. And you talked about the Bob Gibson
season was a one point one two e er if
you take away cruises, you know, bleep show on opening
day in center field.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
That era is down to one point oh one right now.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So we literally might be witnessing the Bob Gibson season
play out in front of us.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Who figured that out? POMPYNI on Twitter, Yeah, I think
he took away those earned runs. He needs to get
out and touch grass. Then again, no one to talk.
Have you been to a park game yet this year?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Not yet? This year? I gotta go. See I'm kind
of as guilty as all these other people are.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, I have not yet this year either, and I
didn't go all of last year, which is the first
time since I can't remember when where it didn't go
to even one game. But you know, here's I still
don't trust them, and the fact that they look like
they're turning a corner makes me trust the ownership even
I don't know why, unbelie. I don't believe they'll finish
it off and they'll just piss.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Me off more.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
No, I totally get that sentiment, like now you're seeing
how close they actually legitimately are, but you just know
deep down he's not gonna put it over the finish line.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
He's just not going to commit them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
We talk about making a big splash of the trade
deadline or earlier than that, but it always gets hung
up with me that he's not going to pay the
freight for some superstar player that's out there that's under
like a four year deal.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
What does intrigue me?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
If they get a cap Skeens is capable with the
amount of cap room they have, especially you know he'd
be capable, then it kind of sh When I say
when I say cap room, I'm not talking about reaching
the cap I'm talking about they could They could keep
Skeens and reach the floor.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Then they got to reach the floor. Then that it
gives the pirates a puncher's chance. But then I think
it kind of shifts to what Skeens want to stay
in Pittsburgh or would he want to go to a Yankee.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Like I was on on the DV Morning show congratulates
the Tad Whistle by the way getting the comedian spot
on that show.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
And he got free donuts for us today, which was great.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I really appreciate, I told our RPD machine. I said,
I really appreciate like limitless bakery being laid out in
front of me as I tried to do Awake in
one to eighty but I did not succumb, not not yet.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Anyway. It's a long time till six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
But uh, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go soon.
I'll sit in the fancy, spancy seats.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I liked the one.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It was a Cambriy club. I could remember the name
Cambria Club. Yeah, what's it called?
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Now? Is it like the Captain Morgan or something like that?
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Kind of tequila a thing? That's what I was.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, I said that, and now I forget what I said.
See what I mean, Mike, playing that sixty five is.
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Like a sieve.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
You said yesterday, you just the day you tapped the microphone?
Who who is this?
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What's this? What's this thing for that? You know? This
isn't a funny story because he happened to a friend
of mine.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
A friend of mine was on his way home from
work on the bus and he just forgot where he
was going. That's a nightmaregory was going. I mean, you
could be lost permanently at that point. That's that's terrifying stuff. Yeah,
speaking of inevitabilities in the pot we dropped in on
air because that'd pop a number of the rings.
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And the Tribute Show, well you had the Tribute.
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Show PTSD for me would be through the roof too.
I'd literally witness you die across from me to be insane.
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Well, the news just keeps breaking. Not only did Chris
bos Will get a four year deal worth seven million
dollars per to kick for the Steelers, he's having a
press conference Friday. That's the first time I ever heard
of a kicker having a contract signing press conference. My
question would be, you're the only guy out there who
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Comment I found the name of that. It was the
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They need a sponsor. But I will go there, hopefully
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is tough right now with Little League baseball. I would
have taken my kid down to the skeen start last night,
but I was coaching third base with two to three
games and one to two practices a week until June win.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Do I have time to hit the ballpark?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Let me offer you some advice, sir, Your kid's no good.
Tom I got a Wilkes Barry Scranton update. Wilkes opened
it its Atlantic Division final last night against Springfield, beat
him two nil, Moorshoff with a shutout. Bill Zonen, one
of the first round picks from this past season, made
his pro debut after finishing his junior season. Scored the
(20:07):
first goal and by all accounts, looked pretty good in
his debut pro game. You see I've projected Zonen as
a real good third line center, but that's not to
say he can't do better. He is a first round
pick and I've heard people compare him to Troty a
boy if only but if he has elements of that,
that'll be good. But it's just so tough to predict
(20:29):
in a draft, a sport where eighteen year olds get drafted.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Oh absolutely, it's a crapshoot.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean, I think even more so in a sport
like hockey like it's just it's it's so hard to
see how these guys are going to take to that
kind of level of but z on and looked awesome
last night. He looked shot out of a can. I
saw his goal on social media. Outstanding.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
He's awesome, much good place, tough, plays everything.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But I mean, the apple of your eye once again
had to be the man in net right twenty four
for twenty four, Mirishov was just outstanding again to shut
out to get the baby Pens off and running in
this series against Syracuse. I mean, he is the star
for the future of the Penguins. They don't have anybody
as far as a forward as concerned, but they got
one in the net.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
I heard he's a direct descendant of Stalin.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I like that even more.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
No that you know how I know that's not true.
I'm assuming since he killed everybody, that they killed his
descendants when the time came. H Tom, we've been talking
about the Balkan thing. What what's your take on that?
We talked briefly yesterday. But the more I parsed what
was said and what wasn't said, I conclude that they
really wanted to keep him. The deal would be done already.
(21:35):
That doesn't mean they won't keep him, but but love
to keep him. Would would would indicate he could and
should be signed already, like like doer and like uh,
solely off.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
That's where I wanted to go with you with this,
because that's exactly where I've been at over these past
twenty four hours. It just it doesn't track in my
mind that this contract's not signed. If Malkin wants to
be a penguin, if Dubis actually meant what he said
where he would love for him to be back, it's
there's no cow that really makes logical sense why they'll
be hanging up.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Is it because he wants two years? Does he want
more than six point one.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I can't imagine that that would even be realistically on
the table, and Malkins Camp could expect that as Dubas
trying to lowball him.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I feel like I'm stretching every time I come with
one of those examples. It just doesn't make sense that
this isn't done.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I think six point one mil, like the average annual
value of the prior contract, the one he just completed.
I think that's more than reasonable. I would try to
lowball him a little bit, but I'd settle for six
point one same deal, but only one year. To me,
a two year deal is a deal breaker, though it
wouldn't surprise me if that's what he wanted, because that's
reportedly now what OVI wants.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
In Washington.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
But Wash has no choice because.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He's their all time best player in the all time
NHL leading goal scorer. Pittsburgh, I mean, Pittsburgh feels compelled.
I'm sure to keep him, but not like Washington is
compelled to keep over.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Washington has to keep Ovie.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
I actually love hearing that OVI wants two years, and
he's kind of bending them over a barrel because screw
the Capitol. I'd like to see them avoid turning the
page as long as possible.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
With him being like twenty thirty pounds overweight, that food
bill ain't going to pay for itself.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So back to Geno, though, I guess it's the two
year thing, right Like, if there's a legitimate hang up
as to why we're on quote unquote Malcoln Watch day
one right now, it would have to be because his
camp is pushing for two years of security and Dubis
is just drawing a line like, look, if I were
to present to you my honest opinion, I didn't even
know if I wanted to bring you back anyway, Gino,
after the year you had. But I'm willing to do it,
(23:28):
but only at one year. And that's kind of that
where they're stuck right now.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
If the two year thing is a deal breaker and
Gina won't move off it and he leaves, then the
peng would need to say that, Yeah, we need to
say we were perfectly content to keep him for one year.
And again we're reading between the lines here, but I
have heard that he wants two years. I heard that
dating back to when he had his snit fit and
then got suspended because you didn't get the contract when
he wanted it at about the two thirds point of
(23:53):
the season, and I the only other thing that could
be is that they don't want him.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, but I don't know. I feel if that's the case.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It'd be tough now that Duba said he wants them, because.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Because then what is your excuse? Right, Like, what what
changed there? Even though he was lying right to your deal?
Speaker 4 (24:12):
That's what you would do. You have to present them that.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Said Dubas said, the Penguins would love to he said,
wed himself under the umbrella.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well no, he's he's by by attachment under the umbrella.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
But he I don't think, he said, I like, I
personally would love Kyle Dubis wants to see if Guinny
Malcolm is the Pittsburgh Pengo would.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Be great if you would have said the third person, well,
just Kyle Dubas wants Gino back.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So then I guess, like Jimmy and Seinfeld, so I
guess if we then go down the path of okay,
so there is you know, maybe Kyle trying to get
the ear of people behind the scenes and say let's
try to move on from Malcolm.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Let's do this.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Maybe that's the reason why we have this Malcolm watch.
Either way, it just baffling to me that we don't
know yet, that there is still kind of tendency.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Baffling to me that we don't know. But it's not
tells the story. And I thought most people who wrote
about it and talked about it totally missed that story
yesterday that they said Dubus wants him back, he's gonna
be back, but he's not yet back. He's not yet signed,
and that contradicts because again doer solely off less important.
(25:18):
But their deals are done easier deals to do, to
be sure. But but Gino to me, Gino, I gave
him six point one one year take it or leave,
the same deal. Then if he leaves it, I make
sure people know that he's the one who left it.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yes, same deal. As far as av he can't.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Give it longer term than sid although that's the other
story we're gonna have to deal with because if he's
not signed to an extension on the first day he
can on July first, all the fantasy fiction guys in canon,
they're gonna try to, you know, right his way and
talk his way to Montreal.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Especially with how the habs are right now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Like if they fall short, like say they lose in
the Eastern Conference finals, so they gets bounced by Buffalo,
that's just gonna add gasoline to that fire because they're
so close and they just need said to get him
over the finish line.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
And I touched on this, uh yesterday. I mean, like
I said, my brain's like a sieve. But but he's
not easy to trade because you know, what you would
want from Montreal, they couldn't give without damaging their attempt
to win the Cup, not just you know, immediately, but
moving into the future now. I talked to a Penguin's
(26:22):
insider today because I have insiders too, and he said, well,
you might reach the point if he doesn't extend where
you'd have to trade it for something like anything you
could get.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I just wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Then you let him walk for free. That's just bad,
bad move by an organization to let that happen. It is,
but then there's no doubt about who the bad guy is. Yeah,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
But and let me tell you sit and again we're
just kind of spitballing here because I don't expect him
to ever leave. But I do know that if he
doesn't sign an extension on July first, that the spit
will hit the fan.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And he's going to be pissed off when if Gino
doesn't get the extension, if they do, in fact move
on from Gena, he's not going to like that.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
All this little kid, I want my guy here and
you know, friends forever, and YadA YadA. That's never been
the Penguins. It shouldn't be the Penguins.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I mean, you lay this example out over and over.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Again, but don't forget.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
We're reading minds here, true, and the Penguins read minds too.
Like I always say, when we got Iggy in thirteen
to play with Sid and he never did because Sid
said to the media, I'm content to play with Duper
and Cooney. Sid never went to the coach, never went
to Bosman, said I want to play with Duper and Cooney.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
They read that.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
He just kind of threw it out there.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
They try to read what he wants, and to be honest,
they're pretty good at doing it, at least today.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I mean, you have laid out so many times about
what they did in the nineties and they had to
trade for talking and you know how Lemieux took that
and how it was a professional locker. We had Porky
on the show on Monday. Remember he was like losing
his mind. He was like, I'd like to believe that
they would be grown ups and they would be professionals.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Close friends on the Penguins. Back then, it was like
a revolving door of them coming and going. Yes and
Amy Quinn, Mark Reki, Paul Coffee.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
All business and all moves that were good hockey moves
that helped the Penguins win and put the Penguins in
a better spot to win. And we having gone from Geno,
people will disagree with this, but it's true. We'll put
the Penguins in a better spot to win moving forward.
Maybe not immediately next year because he won nineteen goals
in a point per game, but moving forward for the
long term, this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, I think so too, but but you know it,
just Geno Gino, Gino, Gino. And again, if he doesn't
play here next year and plays like for the Flyers,
my god, it's something that will permeate the conversation in
that locker room all year.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Some other stuff in the hockey world, What do you
think of Matthew Schaeffer getting Rookie of the Year obvious choice.
Kendall finished ninth in the voting. I thought that was
a little bit head scratching, although his game doesn't really
translate to the flash where voters would put him.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Up on the ballet and didn't have the stats, didn't
have the highlight reel. But I want him on my team.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
He is going to be Is this the Kindle ceiling?
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Is this appropriate to say a two hundred foot like
Selki type of candidate who can put in twenty five
goals like that's his absolute ceiling.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yes, but his points will be inflated by his power
play genius if they ever let him play it on
the first June.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Which is what Gino's blocking specifically next year. And then
the other thing I wanted to bring up in the
hockey world was Berube getting fired by the Maple leaf.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Let me let me back, Gino isn't blocking Kindle because
they both play on opposite sides. They're unwillingness to make
sure Rusty and racks get get theirs on the power
play is.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
What Block's kinder Okay, Gino blocks Ginakov, which I want
chinakoff on that right half wall. Gino's shot was electric
at one point in time, and it was great on
the power play. That's Chinakov now like the other Russia
now has the electric shot that needs to be on
the power play.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
We could fair catch Geno's shot. Now now today, what
about Berube. I think it's hilarious, it's awesome.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
I mean, the Leafs are just completely in a tailspin,
except then I kind of remind myself that they're about
to get McKenna or Stenberg.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
The maple Leafs had a better season than the Penguins
because they're gonna get McKenna and Stenberg, and all the
Penguins did was lose to the Flyers.
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