May 14, 2026 • 25 mins
Mark talks about the aging Penguins roster, brings on Tommy Baseball to talk Bucco Baseball, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Penguins haven't won a playoff game in eight years,
got beat in the first round this year, and a
third of their roster is thirty three or older.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And that's all the key guys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Malcin forty, Sid thirty nine, Latang thirty nine, Carlson thirty six,
Russ thirty four, Raquel thirty three. That is textbook diminishing returns.
You got to turn the team over, you got to
turn the culture over, and it can't be about keeping
anybody happy. I see both sides, but I'm starting to
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see the side of not bringing back Malkin more and more.
Comfort is the enemy, and that room is way too
comfortable and content. Show up for work, see your buddies,
middle aged guys have a beer after Except for Sid,
he probably does an extra couple miles on the extra
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sized bike. You need more of that kid energy, that
new energy. It was there before the eight two and
two start than except for Kendall, all that energy got
sent to Wilkes. And now I'm almost hoping Malkin once
two years, as I've heard, because that'll make it easy
to tell him no and provide an excuse for letting
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him walk. I saw Dan muse at the Bugsy Malone
Heroes game last night.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He didn't shed any light.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Brett Casel didn't shed any light either, but it was
great to talk to him. We agreed on the immortality
of Dick Clebo. Bugsy put on a great event. And
now the guy at tomorrow night, which I'm privileged to
be a part of, I couldn't tell for sure a bit.
I think I saw Aaron Rodgers out there last night
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playing in the Heroes game. Now getting back to the
Malkin situation and again, and I do go back and
forth on this, but all the arguments for keeping Malkin
or House of Cards fanboy drivel, Oh, who's gonna get
you point per game?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But that's not the big question.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why do I give a big, heaping pile of dung
about who's gonna get your point per game? That's not
the big question. The big question is who's gonna help
you dig out and win a playoff series for the
first time since twenty eighteen. Because it won't be of
Ginny Malkin, and it won't be next year. It's a
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difficult situation, but you got to move forward and not
worry about the fallout. Rather just deal with the fallout,
and I will not be outraged if the Penguins bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I won't. In fact, part of me I don't know
if I want it to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I recognize it would be way easier if it did happen,
But I'm beginning to think more and more that Gino
should be out. Great playoffs. I got that's usually so
cliched every year in every sport. This is the greatest
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playoffs of all time by way of creating hype. But
it's no hype to say that there have been a
lot of great games in this year Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Colorado scored two very late goals to time Minnesota three
to three, and then win in overtime to finish off
that series in five games. Guests who scored an ot
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qlec formerly of this parish very briefly. So that trade
was great for him, not so good for Girard. What
a comeback by Colorado. What a demoralizing elimination from Minnesota.
That's the kind of loss to carry around all summer.
I wonder when Quinn used is gonna finagle his way
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out of Minnesota to go play with his brothers in Newark.
He has two years left on his deal, but I
bet he winds up being traded to New Jersey sooner
than that. I hear Brady Kachuk is going to get
out of Ottawa, maybe as soon as this offseason, just
like his brother did a Calgary. And know, none of
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them are going to come to Pittsburgh, not Austin Matthews either.
One third of the Penguins rosters, thirty three year older
guys in their prime, don't want to come to an
old folks home. It's time to talk blunt and reel
about that situation. Montreal in Buffalo Game five tonight. That
series has two teams that are electric and illustrate how
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far behind the Penguins really are. Also Anaheim in Vegas
Game six tonight. Take a good look at Anaheim while
you're at it. Did you notice on yesterday's show we
had almost no talk about Aaron Rodgers, not till the
last word. I mean a few jokes during the earlier portion.
I've certainly not let that concept on in this first segment.
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And that's because that's what this Rogers situation is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Whenever I run into X Steelers, they're not openly critical
of what's happened with the wait a second straight year
for Rogers. They mostly shake their heads and say, I
don't understand it. I don't know why they're doing it.
We got Yowa to talk about that column at the
(05:33):
top of the hour. I don't get it either, what's
going on with Rogers. You know what I will say this,
I'm working on a call for the trib. I am
more optimistic about the Steelers than I have been for
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Because Tomlin was a bad coach, and.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't want to say a bad guy, but he
probably was and we all know why. And McCarthy's a
good coach, and he gets the offensive side of the bar.
Tomlin ran off Dick Clebo and Bruce Arians. Think about that.
Tomlin ran off Dick Calebo and Bruce Arians. He had
the balls to think he could run the defense better
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than Dick Clebo, the best defensive line of football history.
And then all that happened after he took over the
defense was it betrayed its paycheck and its talent. Now,
this is good, this is good tom Win. Tomlin was
a phony pittsburgher. McCarthy's a Pittsburgh guy. This is good. Well,
if the Buco round up next, We're about to get
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some good news from PNC one oh five nine the
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real ringting dong dandy. Somebody asked me where I got that?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
How can you not know?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Ed Waalon played by play Calgary Stampede Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's time for the Bucko round up.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The Pirates lost ten Ford home to Colorado last night
at Keller got lit up. Only eleven k showed up
today at PNC. We don't have a tennis figure yet.
It looked kind of empty, but the buck those one
seven to two games just completed. O'Hearn three for four,
two Ribi's a home run. He's their best hitter period.
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Griffin two for four and called up starting at catcher
Andy Rodriguez two for three, And maybe he is somebody
they should look at. Cuz Henry Davis isn't won fifty one.
I don't care if Skeens likes him catching him. I
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don't care if they're sleeping together. They can't play a
guy hitting one fifty one as a regular, maybe just
to catch Skeens.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But yeah, let's give Indy.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Look, it's always the siren song of the truly desperate
when you say he couldn't possibly be worse, but he
certainly couldn't possibly hit worse. So the Pirates did win
two out of three from Colorado, but they can't get traction.
Including today's win. In the last month, the piers have
gone from being thirteen and ten to being twenty four
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and twenty. The wheels are kind of spinning.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We've been talking about the lackluster crowds at PNC. I
checked out Bucco ticket prices. For one thing, their website
sucks to buy tickets. It's really tough to navigate to
investigate ticket prices. The Pirate website too much steerage and
not enough info. But for today's game, the cheapest ticket
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available was thirty six bucks on the Pirate site and
twenty three bucks on stubhup secondary markets. For tomorrow night's
game against Philadelphia, the cheapest available on the Pirate site
is forty three bucks and on stub hub it's also
forty three. Now I recommend go to the secondary market
an hour before the game. Cheap tickets are low, but
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not those tickets that is pricey, So if you can't
afford to go, I think you should get a better job,
or don't get your kids new clothes for school, and
go see the Bucks. It's the best ballpark in the world.
Ain't heard that?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And that is the Bucko round up for Thursday.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Tom.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
When's the last time you went to a Bucco game.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I didn't go to a game all of last year,
so it would have been in twenty twenty four season.
It was like right after the trade deadline, remember they
struck those deals for IKF and Brian de la Cruz.
I went to like a weekend game after that and
they lost.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I went went to a couple games. I didn't go
to any last year, like you. I went to a
couple of the year before. I traditionally go to see
Saint Louis beat the hell out of them. I mean,
that's just twitch that happens. I like, there was I forget
if it was three or four, how many years ago,
but I went to a game at the end of
one season and Saint Louis scored eight runs in the
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eighth to get a comfort behind with Okay. Then the
next year I go again against Saint Louis. They score
six runs in the first inning, and so far this year.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
They're zero to four against the Cardinals, so they're off
to a usual start against that team.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Cardinals got some young guys, like like the Weatherhold kid
from Mars. They might be better quicker than we hope.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, and people that are like, well, they'll fade back
because they're such a surprise is Saint Louis Cardinals like,
and like you said, there's some real young talent in
that lineup. They won't be down for long. And maybe
they aren't down anymore. You ask for an attendance figure,
we didn't know it yet from today's game Pirates Rockies.
It says nineteen k on ESPN dot com right now.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I believe that because well, the.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Other days are accurate. It says ten k and thirteen K.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I believe ninety k for today.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Because when I went on the Bucko website to get tickets, like, like,
the only tickets available were kind of you know, the
good ones were gone, But then again, the cheap ones
weren't so cheap.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
How do you explain that though? You know, just like
a Thursday twelve thirty five start, Oh, I know, a
Jinski on the mound. I think they even did an
open at the Dame.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I know a lot of people, and I would be
one of them if I didn't have to come here.
I know a lot of people who love day baseball,
particularly weekday baseball, because you get a you get a
decent crowd, like today a ninety k, but it's never overwhelming,
and it's an easier in and out, and it's just
baseball during the day that baseball's to put.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
All these sports are supposed to be played during the day.
You're not wrong about that. There is a certain charm
about baseball when it's played in the daytime. And plus
you get to play hooky from work or get the
kids out of school, so there's a little bit of extra,
you know, to doing this. But let's focus on the
Pirates a little bit longer. And what you were saying
there about Andy Rodriguez, I think is intriguing because it
is a little bit over reactionary to say after just
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one game, let's hays, No.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's not not. When your regular catchers hitting one the fricking.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
One, and your other catcher's hitting what like two thirty
or something like that, he's.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Had a couple of good games, he's up like two
fifty something.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, I would definitely get Rodriguez out there again tomorrow
against the Phillies.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Regardless of the shows. He can't can't hit you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And if you want Davis to catch schemes and they
can hold hands afterwards, that's great.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And you mentioned that he's nothing wrong with that. It
is a bit desperate, you know, the siren song of
the desperate. Hey, he can't be worse than Henry Davis.
But Andy Rodriguez, once upon a time was a pretty
decent prospect where injuries just completely derailed his momentum to
the big leagues. Maybe he's healthy now, maybe he will
be good at the play, because that was the draw
to him too, is he was gonna be a good catch.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Maybe it's just worth a shock.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, when you come to Henry Davis's batting average and
what he brings to the table, it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It is amazing that he was a first pick overall
and he' shit won fifty one and somehow he's.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Still a major league regular. It's some It's incredible he's
even in the major league.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
It's amazing how much I think teams really value defensive
catchers like that, which Davis has become one of. Those
like I remember Austin Hedges, right, I think Austin Hedges
is still bumming around the league on some team. I
think he's in Minnesota with Shelthy just because he can,
you know, catch a game. He's a good pitch call, just.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Because it was on Twitter that he proposed to his
girlfriend on the field.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
But like, how is that guy still kicking around the bigs?
When he was a pirate like four or five years ago,
we were like, this is the worst hitter we may
have ever seen in our life. It gets overvalued a
defensive acumen at that catching bus in Cleveland. He's on
the Guardians right now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Look, catchers need to be good at defense, don't get
me wrong there, but there's definitely an overvaluation of it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, the element of framing pitches is totally dead dead
with the ABS system. And people talk about how they
call games. I mean, did the catchers really call games
now or do they do it from the dugout?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, well, first of all, they can do it from
the dugout.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I would think that's prevalent because if everything else is
micro managed by analytics, why wouldn't calling the game be.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Like endy today? Like You'll watch him between pitches. He'll
be looking at the dugout to see what the call
is going to be. Then he makes the call to Skeens.
It's kind of like an offensive coordinator calling it into
the quarterback. And at the end of the day, the
pitcher is the one that decides most of the time,
especially if you're a Paul Skean's like, watch the Skian's
out and you'll see him shake the head like a
horse ten different times, shaking off Davis the pitches that
he was called.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
If I were the catcher call the game, I'd yell
the pitch out. I would say, next pitch, curveball.
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Speaker 5 (14:37):
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Christmas Tonight. That's when the league releases the schedules for
all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We already know the Steelers will go to Paris.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
They'll face the Saints there, but they're also reportedly hosting
Denver on Black Friday before two straight primetime games bedtime.
Steelers reportedly believe there's no realistic cap to the playoffs
without Aaron Rodgers at quarterback this season. I'm Scott David's
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Speaker 1 (15:14):
The NFL schedular reveal is tonight at eight pm. That's
the official scheduler reveal, and it is an absolute showcase
for the NFL's megalomania and for the dorkiness of the fans.
Because you've known for months who everybody is gonna play
and war this is nothing new except matching it to
a calendar, and yet it's treated like an amendment to
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the Constitution, and the minute it's released, ninety nine point
nine percent of those doing my job will go over
the schedule game by game and predict results and a
one lost record.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, heck, I can do that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The Steelers are gonna go ten and seven, maybe nine
and eight like they always do.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Duh.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean we had leaks for this thing, like it's
the Epstein Files.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The Steelers play Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Home against Denver, but not Christmas Day, not Christmas Eve,
Week wand at home against Atlanta, Week two at New Engerland,
two Sunday night games, one Monday night game. And I
know there's an element of newsworthiness to it, but again,
it's just like Moses is bringing this down from the mountaintop.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Tom, which of the schedule leaks have you the most exciting?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
How could it not be the Black Friday game right
three pm after Thanksgiving against the Denver Broncos, mainly because
three pm Friday football is my bag, because I get
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Off, I might go to that game. Why not?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Right, you shouldn't do your show.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I can think of a million reasons. Why not?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Is there a reason even do your show that day, Like, no, no, listen,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Think so, Yeah, I don't think so. But yeah, I
know it's a company holidays.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
That's true too. Black Friday, we get off.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I'm and I'm not even black and they give
me off.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm thinking to going to the game because I'm not
sure three pm on Friday would be a good time
for a viewing party, So why not just go? I
haven't been to a game since when Ben made his
comeback from suspension. The show support and one of the
Steelers like very marginal media guys.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
One of the students has attacked me. He attacked me.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Wow, that's insane. I did know that. But you should
definitely go, especially with McCarthy no taken over now came
on the show like that. Definitely go for one game.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I won't even mention the guy's name because he might
get go from getting paid five cents a word to
six cents the word, with the with the publicity this
show would give him. But but yeah, the schedule reveal,
I get it, But you know I won't play ball
with that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Game by game predict the record, right, of course we
just did predict the record. They're gonna go ten and
seven or nine and eight. I'm most excited about the
schedule release videos from teams tonight because I bet you
they get into the Diana Russini Mike Rabel territory with
some of the jokes that they play. Why, oh, you
don't think that that'll happen?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Why would wait teams do that?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Oh, that's a big thing. Mark every team will have
like a video, But why would they have a Russinian Raabel?
Because when they play the Patriots and they have that
game pop up, they'll make a joke at it. I
guarantee you there will be at least a couple of
teams that rib on that. I bet you some teams
will rib on the Steelers for waiting for Rodgers's old
ass to come back.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh what it says right here that Yeah, NFL teams,
you're right, I guess this is a thing they have
not been told to not do that.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Do we're seeing anything?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah? Like I saw that report earlier too, So I
guarantee that it's gonna happen. There's gonna be some Rogers
stuff too, where they poke fun of them waiting for
him and how ridiculous that situation is. Because it is
a ridiculous situation. I'm probably reading too much into this too,
but the NFL is guessing that he's gonna be a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's like a four game stretch Week ten through Week fourteen.
They're basically all on Primetime that Black Friday games in there.
They got Sunday nights, they get Monday nights games to
refresh my memory, Jacksonville Texans on Sunday, Bangles on Sunday.
Like that's angling for Rodgers to be back.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Just based on the leaks we've seen, it seems like
the schedule is gonna be easier early and tougher later,
so they could, you know, maybe build a cushion.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I mean, it seems like there's always one end of
the Steelers schedule that's to than the other, Like it's
never balanced throughout the seventeen games.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's tough for me to go all the way there
because I just don't know how good of a team
the Steelers are this year, you know what I mean,
Like I maybe if I thought they would be an
eleven to twelve win team than what you're saying is correct.
But they still got the Patriots in Week two, the
Bengals in Week three. They're not easy teams.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I'm working on a column Tom that will see. I
do have more optimism for the Steelers than I have
had because I think Tom Win turned into a crap coach.
I think McCarthy's a better coach who understands the league
and a quarterback whisperer. On top of that, I think
Aler has a chance to be the guy. It's not
a sure thing, but I think he's a better hope
than anybody they've had since been retired. And I think
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that not this year, but I think next season, left
the right Futanu, Red Rednecky, H McCormick, and Iana Tchort
will be a really good offensive line.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But I think it's gonna take a year from now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Because of Ian. You think he's gonna need a little
bit more marinating. Brad red Necky's ready that.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And I think they're gonna try to fool themselves with
Dylan Cook this year. And I think they're gonna give
one last run to Broderick Jones. And I don't know
why they would. They shouldn't bother, but I get it
now that makes sense. But as far as like in
Matt Williamson likes to use this phrase of time. The
nest for the next quarterback is concerned the way you
just configure that offensive line.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
That's the potential to being a pretty good part of
your nest. And you've got some nice receivers now with
Pittman being in the fold and Jeremy Bernard. You need
to add a little bit to that room, especially in
the youth side of it, I think, but you can
get there. You're building towards something on the offensive side
of the ball. But the main thing that you said
for your optimism that I agree with is the guy
who's caretaking that offensive side of the ball now, the
guy who is fostering that growth on that side of
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the ball. And that's why what you said about Aler
is correct. He's got the most potential of anybody since
then because of the guy who's coaching him.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Right, right and alert. Well, he's the most talent too,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He has more talent, and Picking I think otherwise has
five star recruit more talent than Trubisky, although Trubisky did
go second overall, he just turned out to be bummy, but.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
He wasn't the guy out of high school like more
talent than Rudolph.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean, I just I just don't see how people
can't see Aler as at the very least. You know,
what the worst people should feel about aler is that
he's a strong possibility.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, yeah, and when you go that route, you know,
the quarterback, the third round pick that might not land,
you always have that kind of backdoor that you can
go through where if he sucks out loud, you win
three or four games and then you get to pick
at a more advantageous position to find that game.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
If they didn't bring Rogers back.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yes, and if they just went forward with Rudolph starting,
and then you phase aller in. Probably OTAs are Monday.
I was gonna say this wait tomorrow, but I'm gonna
bring it up now. Do you believe we will know
about Rogers by Monday? Do you believe he'll be there Monday?
So we did last year, like when OTA's officially started
last year, Rogers came signed and he was there for OTAs.
But they were in June last year. It's earlier this
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year in the calendar because of McCarthy, you know, changing
things around.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
If I'm wrong, But he barely participated.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Just sat, Yeah, he just sat there with like kind
of the offensive play sheet and just kind of went
through the offense.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This cheats Roman Wilson, pat Freyermuth who never really clicked
with Rogers last year, and it cheats Bernard and Pittman
so badly him not being there, him not being involved.
I don't care what anybody says. People say he doesn't
need it. He knows how to play. Those guys need
it with him.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And you know that he's gonna put the booboo face
on once Jeremy Bernard isn't in the right place at
the right time, and he's gonna, you know, say, I
can't play with this rookie because he doesn't know where
he's supposed to be. And it's like that's your fault, Rogers,
because you weren't there installing that with him.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Do you think McCarthy will acquiesce to that, because Tomlin,
Did you think McCarthy will.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Just because there was some turbulence with McCarthy and Rodgers
at the end of Green Bay. I wonder, I wonder
if he won't completely acquiesce to that.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know that he will because of what you said.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I also think McCarthy has to have had it
up to here, no matter what he's saying, had it
up to here.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
With this delay, Yeah, I think so too. I think
McCarthy wanted Rogers back, and I think he still does.
But initially I think he thought this was gonna be
done like a month or two ago, right like this
is gonna be get the band back together kind of
moment with these two, and we would have known by now.
I'm actually gonna guess that, No, he's not gonna be
here by OTAs next time. I bet it's different this year.
I bet that he will wait until June and kind
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of go with the calendar like last year.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I have a lot of days coming off in coming,
coming up off days, vacation days in the rest of
this month and in June. If Rogers signed, well, I'm
on vacation, I would write him a thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Letter because you don't have to talk about it exactly exactly.
So if I'm hosting, don't call you, that's what you're saying, because.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, don't either way.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But but everything it would be said we've already said
for months, like his signing will be nothing new.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No'll just be a real like I hate him so bad.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I hate Aaron Rodgers, what he's done to the Steelers
when he's done to the logo, but he's done to
this show, what he's done to sports media.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I hate him.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And back to what you're saying about the service he's
doing to that group of pass catchers. Fran Ruth and
Pittman belong in that group. But those guys got their
second contracts already, maybe Pittman's on a third contract even
But for Wilson and for Jeremy Bernard, like this is
their NFL lives.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jeremy's first year, so Rodgers can't f him too bad
that Rodgers won't be here. I don't think he still
gonna hit the ground on it, No, Mark, I think
so too, But I mean, no, he's just an ass.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
There's no good reason for him to not here.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Like I hate the Steeler media too, beyond the guy
that attacked me, because because they should be saying this
is too much, they should be talking about how much,
how much, but they just say it's no big deal.
Every other team in the damn league knows who their
quarterback is, they know who their quarterback depth chart is.
The Steelers don't, and they're paying the kicker seven mil.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You know, I really agree with what Mike de Coursey
said yesterday. You're trying to figure out what is the
good reason, what is the reason why he hasn't signed yet.
It's all ego, it has to be. He enjoys these
conversations happening. He enjoys seeing himself talked about on first
take and gains.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think it's even beyond that. I think he's just
an ass.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think Aaron Rodgers wakes up in the morning and
figures that, Okay, how can I be an ass today?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And that's a big part of being the ass is
making himself the center of attention and delaying this as
long as he possibly can. I do think it's inevitable
still that he ends up Steeler, right. Don't you think
he is going to come and play for the Steelers
this year, because that's how he wants this to end.
If he was going to retire, he'd retire. From Your
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Speaker 3 (25:11):
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Speaker 2 (25:15):
The X Success takes everything You've got
The Penguins haven't won a playoff game in eight years,
got beat in the first round this year, and a
third of their roster is thirty three or older.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And that's all the key guys.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Malcin forty, Sid thirty nine, Latang thirty nine, Carlson thirty six,
Russ thirty four, Raquel thirty three. That is textbook diminishing returns.
You got to turn the team over, you got to
turn the culture over, and it can't be about keeping
anybody happy. I see both sides, but I'm starting to
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see the side of not bringing back Malkin more and more.
Comfort is the enemy, and that room is way too
comfortable and content. Show up for work, see your buddies,
middle aged guys have a beer after Except for Sid,
he probably does an extra couple miles on the extra
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sized bike. You need more of that kid energy, that
new energy. It was there before the eight two and
two start than except for Kendall, all that energy got
sent to Wilkes. And now I'm almost hoping Malkin once
two years, as I've heard, because that'll make it easy
to tell him no and provide an excuse for letting
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him walk. I saw Dan muse at the Bugsy Malone
Heroes game last night.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
He didn't shed any light.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Brett Casel didn't shed any light either, but it was
great to talk to him. We agreed on the immortality
of Dick Clebo. Bugsy put on a great event. And
now the guy at tomorrow night, which I'm privileged to
be a part of, I couldn't tell for sure a bit.
I think I saw Aaron Rodgers out there last night
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playing in the Heroes game. Now getting back to the
Malkin situation and again, and I do go back and
forth on this, but all the arguments for keeping Malkin
or House of Cards fanboy drivel, Oh, who's gonna get
you point per game?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But that's not the big question.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Why do I give a big, heaping pile of dung
about who's gonna get your point per game? That's not
the big question. The big question is who's gonna help
you dig out and win a playoff series for the
first time since twenty eighteen. Because it won't be of
Ginny Malkin, and it won't be next year. It's a
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difficult situation, but you got to move forward and not
worry about the fallout. Rather just deal with the fallout,
and I will not be outraged if the Penguins bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I won't. In fact, part of me I don't know
if I want it to happen.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I recognize it would be way easier if it did happen,
But I'm beginning to think more and more that Gino
should be out. Great playoffs. I got that's usually so
cliched every year in every sport. This is the greatest
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playoffs of all time by way of creating hype. But
it's no hype to say that there have been a
lot of great games in this year Stanley Cup Playoffs.
Colorado scored two very late goals to time Minnesota three
to three, and then win in overtime to finish off
that series in five games. Guests who scored an ot
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qlec formerly of this parish very briefly. So that trade
was great for him, not so good for Girard. What
a comeback by Colorado. What a demoralizing elimination from Minnesota.
That's the kind of loss to carry around all summer.
I wonder when Quinn used is gonna finagle his way
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out of Minnesota to go play with his brothers in Newark.
He has two years left on his deal, but I
bet he winds up being traded to New Jersey sooner
than that. I hear Brady Kachuk is going to get
out of Ottawa, maybe as soon as this offseason, just
like his brother did a Calgary. And know, none of
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them are going to come to Pittsburgh, not Austin Matthews either.
One third of the Penguins rosters, thirty three year older
guys in their prime, don't want to come to an
old folks home. It's time to talk blunt and reel
about that situation. Montreal in Buffalo Game five tonight. That
series has two teams that are electric and illustrate how
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far behind the Penguins really are. Also Anaheim in Vegas
Game six tonight. Take a good look at Anaheim while
you're at it. Did you notice on yesterday's show we
had almost no talk about Aaron Rodgers, not till the
last word. I mean a few jokes during the earlier portion.
I've certainly not let that concept on in this first segment.
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And that's because that's what this Rogers situation is.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It's a joke.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Whenever I run into X Steelers, they're not openly critical
of what's happened with the wait a second straight year
for Rogers. They mostly shake their heads and say, I
don't understand it. I don't know why they're doing it.
We got Yowa to talk about that column at the
(05:33):
top of the hour. I don't get it either, what's
going on with Rogers. You know what I will say this,
I'm working on a call for the trib. I am
more optimistic about the Steelers than I have been for
quite some time.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Because Tomlin was a bad coach, and.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I don't want to say a bad guy, but he
probably was and we all know why. And McCarthy's a
good coach, and he gets the offensive side of the bar.
Tomlin ran off Dick Clebo and Bruce Arians. Think about that.
Tomlin ran off Dick Calebo and Bruce Arians. He had
the balls to think he could run the defense better
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than Dick Clebo, the best defensive line of football history.
And then all that happened after he took over the
defense was it betrayed its paycheck and its talent. Now,
this is good, this is good tom Win. Tomlin was
a phony pittsburgher. McCarthy's a Pittsburgh guy. This is good. Well,
if the Buco round up next, We're about to get
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Speaker 2 (06:49):
How can you not know?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Ed Waalon played by play Calgary Stampede Wrestling.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
It's time for the Bucko round up.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
The Pirates lost ten Ford home to Colorado last night
at Keller got lit up. Only eleven k showed up
today at PNC. We don't have a tennis figure yet.
It looked kind of empty, but the buck those one
seven to two games just completed. O'Hearn three for four,
two Ribi's a home run. He's their best hitter period.
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Griffin two for four and called up starting at catcher
Andy Rodriguez two for three, And maybe he is somebody
they should look at. Cuz Henry Davis isn't won fifty one.
I don't care if Skeens likes him catching him. I
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don't care if they're sleeping together. They can't play a
guy hitting one fifty one as a regular, maybe just
to catch Skeens.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
But yeah, let's give Indy.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Look, it's always the siren song of the truly desperate
when you say he couldn't possibly be worse, but he
certainly couldn't possibly hit worse. So the Pirates did win
two out of three from Colorado, but they can't get traction.
Including today's win. In the last month, the piers have
gone from being thirteen and ten to being twenty four
(08:08):
and twenty. The wheels are kind of spinning.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
We've been talking about the lackluster crowds at PNC. I
checked out Bucco ticket prices. For one thing, their website
sucks to buy tickets. It's really tough to navigate to
investigate ticket prices. The Pirate website too much steerage and
not enough info. But for today's game, the cheapest ticket
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available was thirty six bucks on the Pirate site and
twenty three bucks on stubhup secondary markets. For tomorrow night's
game against Philadelphia, the cheapest available on the Pirate site
is forty three bucks and on stub hub it's also
forty three. Now I recommend go to the secondary market
an hour before the game. Cheap tickets are low, but
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not those tickets that is pricey, So if you can't
afford to go, I think you should get a better job,
or don't get your kids new clothes for school, and
go see the Bucks. It's the best ballpark in the world.
Ain't heard that?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And that is the Bucko round up for Thursday.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Tom.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
When's the last time you went to a Bucco game.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
I didn't go to a game all of last year,
so it would have been in twenty twenty four season.
It was like right after the trade deadline, remember they
struck those deals for IKF and Brian de la Cruz.
I went to like a weekend game after that and
they lost.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I went went to a couple games. I didn't go
to any last year, like you. I went to a
couple of the year before. I traditionally go to see
Saint Louis beat the hell out of them. I mean,
that's just twitch that happens. I like, there was I forget
if it was three or four, how many years ago,
but I went to a game at the end of
one season and Saint Louis scored eight runs in the
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eighth to get a comfort behind with Okay. Then the
next year I go again against Saint Louis. They score
six runs in the first inning, and so far this year.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
They're zero to four against the Cardinals, so they're off
to a usual start against that team.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Cardinals got some young guys, like like the Weatherhold kid
from Mars. They might be better quicker than we hope.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, and people that are like, well, they'll fade back
because they're such a surprise is Saint Louis Cardinals like,
and like you said, there's some real young talent in
that lineup. They won't be down for long. And maybe
they aren't down anymore. You ask for an attendance figure,
we didn't know it yet from today's game Pirates Rockies.
It says nineteen k on ESPN dot com right now.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, I believe that because well, the.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Other days are accurate. It says ten k and thirteen K.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, I believe ninety k for today.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Because when I went on the Bucko website to get tickets, like, like,
the only tickets available were kind of you know, the
good ones were gone, But then again, the cheap ones
weren't so cheap.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
How do you explain that though? You know, just like
a Thursday twelve thirty five start, Oh, I know, a
Jinski on the mound. I think they even did an
open at the Dame.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I know a lot of people, and I would be
one of them if I didn't have to come here.
I know a lot of people who love day baseball,
particularly weekday baseball, because you get a you get a
decent crowd, like today a ninety k, but it's never overwhelming,
and it's an easier in and out, and it's just
baseball during the day that baseball's to put.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
All these sports are supposed to be played during the day.
You're not wrong about that. There is a certain charm
about baseball when it's played in the daytime. And plus
you get to play hooky from work or get the
kids out of school, so there's a little bit of extra,
you know, to doing this. But let's focus on the
Pirates a little bit longer. And what you were saying
there about Andy Rodriguez, I think is intriguing because it
is a little bit over reactionary to say after just
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one game, let's hays, No.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
It's not not. When your regular catchers hitting one the fricking.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
One, and your other catcher's hitting what like two thirty
or something like that, he's.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Had a couple of good games, he's up like two
fifty something.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Well, I would definitely get Rodriguez out there again tomorrow
against the Phillies.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Regardless of the shows. He can't can't hit you.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And if you want Davis to catch schemes and they
can hold hands afterwards, that's great.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
And you mentioned that he's nothing wrong with that. It
is a bit desperate, you know, the siren song of
the desperate. Hey, he can't be worse than Henry Davis.
But Andy Rodriguez, once upon a time was a pretty
decent prospect where injuries just completely derailed his momentum to
the big leagues. Maybe he's healthy now, maybe he will
be good at the play, because that was the draw
to him too, is he was gonna be a good catch.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Maybe it's just worth a shock.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Well, when you come to Henry Davis's batting average and
what he brings to the table, it's definitely worth it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It is amazing that he was a first pick overall
and he' shit won fifty one and somehow he's.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Still a major league regular. It's some It's incredible he's
even in the major league.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
It's amazing how much I think teams really value defensive
catchers like that, which Davis has become one of. Those
like I remember Austin Hedges, right, I think Austin Hedges
is still bumming around the league on some team. I
think he's in Minnesota with Shelthy just because he can,
you know, catch a game. He's a good pitch call, just.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Because it was on Twitter that he proposed to his
girlfriend on the field.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
But like, how is that guy still kicking around the bigs?
When he was a pirate like four or five years ago,
we were like, this is the worst hitter we may
have ever seen in our life. It gets overvalued a
defensive acumen at that catching bus in Cleveland. He's on
the Guardians right now.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Look, catchers need to be good at defense, don't get
me wrong there, but there's definitely an overvaluation of it.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, the element of framing pitches is totally dead dead
with the ABS system. And people talk about how they
call games. I mean, did the catchers really call games
now or do they do it from the dugout?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well, well, first of all, they can do it from
the dugout.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I would think that's prevalent because if everything else is
micro managed by analytics, why wouldn't calling the game be.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Like endy today? Like You'll watch him between pitches. He'll
be looking at the dugout to see what the call
is going to be. Then he makes the call to Skeens.
It's kind of like an offensive coordinator calling it into
the quarterback. And at the end of the day, the
pitcher is the one that decides most of the time,
especially if you're a Paul Skean's like, watch the Skian's
out and you'll see him shake the head like a
horse ten different times, shaking off Davis the pitches that
he was called.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
If I were the catcher call the game, I'd yell
the pitch out. I would say, next pitch, curveball.
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Speaker 5 (14:37):
Well, begin with football, where NFL fans have their second
Christmas Tonight. That's when the league releases the schedules for
all thirty two teams.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We already know the Steelers will go to Paris.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
They'll face the Saints there, but they're also reportedly hosting
Denver on Black Friday before two straight primetime games bedtime.
Steelers reportedly believe there's no realistic cap to the playoffs
without Aaron Rodgers at quarterback this season. I'm Scott David's
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Speaker 1 (15:14):
The NFL schedular reveal is tonight at eight pm. That's
the official scheduler reveal, and it is an absolute showcase
for the NFL's megalomania and for the dorkiness of the fans.
Because you've known for months who everybody is gonna play
and war this is nothing new except matching it to
a calendar, and yet it's treated like an amendment to
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the Constitution, and the minute it's released, ninety nine point
nine percent of those doing my job will go over
the schedule game by game and predict results and a
one lost record.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Well, heck, I can do that.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The Steelers are gonna go ten and seven, maybe nine
and eight like they always do.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Duh.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I mean we had leaks for this thing, like it's
the Epstein Files.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The Steelers play Black Friday.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Home against Denver, but not Christmas Day, not Christmas Eve,
Week wand at home against Atlanta, Week two at New Engerland,
two Sunday night games, one Monday night game. And I
know there's an element of newsworthiness to it, but again,
it's just like Moses is bringing this down from the mountaintop.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Tom, which of the schedule leaks have you the most exciting?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
How could it not be the Black Friday game right
three pm after Thanksgiving against the Denver Broncos, mainly because
three pm Friday football is my bag, because I get
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Off, I might go to that game. Why not?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Right, you shouldn't do your show.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I can think of a million reasons. Why not?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Is there a reason even do your show that day, Like, no, no, listen,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Think so, Yeah, I don't think so. But yeah, I
know it's a company holidays.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
That's true too. Black Friday, we get off.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So I'm and I'm not even black and they give
me off.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm thinking to going to the game because I'm not
sure three pm on Friday would be a good time
for a viewing party, So why not just go? I
haven't been to a game since when Ben made his
comeback from suspension. The show support and one of the
Steelers like very marginal media guys.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
One of the students has attacked me. He attacked me.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Wow, that's insane. I did know that. But you should
definitely go, especially with McCarthy no taken over now came
on the show like that. Definitely go for one game.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I won't even mention the guy's name because he might
get go from getting paid five cents a word to
six cents the word, with the with the publicity this
show would give him. But but yeah, the schedule reveal,
I get it, But you know I won't play ball
with that.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Game by game predict the record, right, of course we
just did predict the record. They're gonna go ten and
seven or nine and eight. I'm most excited about the
schedule release videos from teams tonight because I bet you
they get into the Diana Russini Mike Rabel territory with
some of the jokes that they play. Why, oh, you
don't think that that'll happen?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Why would wait teams do that?
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Oh, that's a big thing. Mark every team will have
like a video, But why would they have a Russinian Raabel?
Because when they play the Patriots and they have that
game pop up, they'll make a joke at it. I
guarantee you there will be at least a couple of
teams that rib on that. I bet you some teams
will rib on the Steelers for waiting for Rodgers's old
ass to come back.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh what it says right here that Yeah, NFL teams,
you're right, I guess this is a thing they have
not been told to not do that.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Do we're seeing anything?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah? Like I saw that report earlier too, So I
guarantee that it's gonna happen. There's gonna be some Rogers
stuff too, where they poke fun of them waiting for
him and how ridiculous that situation is. Because it is
a ridiculous situation. I'm probably reading too much into this too,
but the NFL is guessing that he's gonna be a Steeler.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's like a four game stretch Week ten through Week fourteen.
They're basically all on Primetime that Black Friday games in there.
They got Sunday nights, they get Monday nights games to
refresh my memory, Jacksonville Texans on Sunday, Bangles on Sunday.
Like that's angling for Rodgers to be back.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Just based on the leaks we've seen, it seems like
the schedule is gonna be easier early and tougher later,
so they could, you know, maybe build a cushion.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I mean, it seems like there's always one end of
the Steelers schedule that's to than the other, Like it's
never balanced throughout the seventeen games.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It's tough for me to go all the way there
because I just don't know how good of a team
the Steelers are this year, you know what I mean,
Like I maybe if I thought they would be an
eleven to twelve win team than what you're saying is correct.
But they still got the Patriots in Week two, the
Bengals in Week three. They're not easy teams.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I'm working on a column Tom that will see. I
do have more optimism for the Steelers than I have
had because I think Tom Win turned into a crap coach.
I think McCarthy's a better coach who understands the league
and a quarterback whisperer. On top of that, I think
Aler has a chance to be the guy. It's not
a sure thing, but I think he's a better hope
than anybody they've had since been retired. And I think
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that not this year, but I think next season, left
the right Futanu, Red Rednecky, H McCormick, and Iana Tchort
will be a really good offensive line.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But I think it's gonna take a year from now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Because of Ian. You think he's gonna need a little
bit more marinating. Brad red Necky's ready that.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And I think they're gonna try to fool themselves with
Dylan Cook this year. And I think they're gonna give
one last run to Broderick Jones. And I don't know
why they would. They shouldn't bother, but I get it
now that makes sense. But as far as like in
Matt Williamson likes to use this phrase of time. The
nest for the next quarterback is concerned the way you
just configure that offensive line.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
That's the potential to being a pretty good part of
your nest. And you've got some nice receivers now with
Pittman being in the fold and Jeremy Bernard. You need
to add a little bit to that room, especially in
the youth side of it, I think, but you can
get there. You're building towards something on the offensive side
of the ball. But the main thing that you said
for your optimism that I agree with is the guy
who's caretaking that offensive side of the ball now, the
guy who is fostering that growth on that side of
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the ball. And that's why what you said about Aler
is correct. He's got the most potential of anybody since
then because of the guy who's coaching him.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Right, right and alert. Well, he's the most talent too,
that's true.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
He has more talent, and Picking I think otherwise has
five star recruit more talent than Trubisky, although Trubisky did
go second overall, he just turned out to be bummy, but.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
He wasn't the guy out of high school like more
talent than Rudolph.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I mean, I just I just don't see how people
can't see Aler as at the very least. You know,
what the worst people should feel about aler is that
he's a strong possibility.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Well, yeah, and when you go that route, you know,
the quarterback, the third round pick that might not land,
you always have that kind of backdoor that you can
go through where if he sucks out loud, you win
three or four games and then you get to pick
at a more advantageous position to find that game.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
If they didn't bring Rogers back.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Yes, and if they just went forward with Rudolph starting,
and then you phase aller in. Probably OTAs are Monday.
I was gonna say this wait tomorrow, but I'm gonna
bring it up now. Do you believe we will know
about Rogers by Monday? Do you believe he'll be there Monday?
So we did last year, like when OTA's officially started
last year, Rogers came signed and he was there for OTAs.
But they were in June last year. It's earlier this
(21:51):
year in the calendar because of McCarthy, you know, changing
things around.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
If I'm wrong, But he barely participated.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Just sat, Yeah, he just sat there with like kind
of the offensive play sheet and just kind of went
through the offense.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
This cheats Roman Wilson, pat Freyermuth who never really clicked
with Rogers last year, and it cheats Bernard and Pittman
so badly him not being there, him not being involved.
I don't care what anybody says. People say he doesn't
need it. He knows how to play. Those guys need
it with him.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
And you know that he's gonna put the booboo face
on once Jeremy Bernard isn't in the right place at
the right time, and he's gonna, you know, say, I
can't play with this rookie because he doesn't know where
he's supposed to be. And it's like that's your fault, Rogers,
because you weren't there installing that with him.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Do you think McCarthy will acquiesce to that, because Tomlin,
Did you think McCarthy will.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Just because there was some turbulence with McCarthy and Rodgers
at the end of Green Bay. I wonder, I wonder
if he won't completely acquiesce to that.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I don't know that he will because of what you said.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
And I also think McCarthy has to have had it
up to here, no matter what he's saying, had it
up to here.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
With this delay, Yeah, I think so too. I think
McCarthy wanted Rogers back, and I think he still does.
But initially I think he thought this was gonna be
done like a month or two ago, right like this
is gonna be get the band back together kind of
moment with these two, and we would have known by now.
I'm actually gonna guess that, No, he's not gonna be
here by OTAs next time. I bet it's different this year.
I bet that he will wait until June and kind
(23:08):
of go with the calendar like last year.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I have a lot of days coming off in coming,
coming up off days, vacation days in the rest of
this month and in June. If Rogers signed, well, I'm
on vacation, I would write him a thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Letter because you don't have to talk about it exactly exactly.
So if I'm hosting, don't call you, that's what you're saying, because.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, don't either way.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But but everything it would be said we've already said
for months, like his signing will be nothing new.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
No'll just be a real like I hate him so bad.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I hate Aaron Rodgers, what he's done to the Steelers
when he's done to the logo, but he's done to
this show, what he's done to sports media.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
I hate him.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
And back to what you're saying about the service he's
doing to that group of pass catchers. Fran Ruth and
Pittman belong in that group. But those guys got their
second contracts already, maybe Pittman's on a third contract even
But for Wilson and for Jeremy Bernard, like this is
their NFL lives.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jeremy's first year, so Rodgers can't f him too bad
that Rodgers won't be here. I don't think he still
gonna hit the ground on it, No, Mark, I think
so too, But I mean, no, he's just an ass.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
There's no good reason for him to not here.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Like I hate the Steeler media too, beyond the guy
that attacked me, because because they should be saying this
is too much, they should be talking about how much,
how much, but they just say it's no big deal.
Every other team in the damn league knows who their
quarterback is, they know who their quarterback depth chart is.
The Steelers don't, and they're paying the kicker seven mil.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You know, I really agree with what Mike de Coursey
said yesterday. You're trying to figure out what is the
good reason, what is the reason why he hasn't signed yet.
It's all ego, it has to be. He enjoys these
conversations happening. He enjoys seeing himself talked about on first
take and gains.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think it's even beyond that. I think he's just
an ass.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think Aaron Rodgers wakes up in the morning and
figures that, Okay, how can I be an ass today?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
And that's a big part of being the ass is
making himself the center of attention and delaying this as
long as he possibly can. I do think it's inevitable
still that he ends up Steeler, right. Don't you think
he is going to come and play for the Steelers
this year, because that's how he wants this to end.
If he was going to retire, he'd retire. From Your
Lips to God's Ears one oh five to nine, It's The.
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