April 30, 2026 • 30 mins
Mark continues talking about the Penguins, talks about the Bucs as Skenes gets rocked by the Cardinals. Tyler Kennedy joins the show to talk about the Penguins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, here's why I want your calls or where you're
gonna want to call. So dial now eight three three
four one two WXDX.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's look ahead with.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
The Penguins already, because that's how this industry works. Chay
is an unrestricted free agent. I'd bring him back a
Swiss army knife either side, any pair on defense play
at the team in plus minus. If he's not too expensive,
i'd bring him back. Door is an unrestricted free agent.
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I'd maybe bring him back. He's twenty six. Skate's great,
good fourth liner if he's affordable.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But then again, I want kids to play in the
bottom six because you got to.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mantha outs A, Charie Outs, Clifton Out solely off out
Skinner Outs and might I add I'm very comfortable with
the goaltending candem next year, potentially of Shilloffs and Morrishaw.
It could be the team's biggest strength. And that brings
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us to Agetty Malkin, also an unrestricted free agent. I
did mention Chinakov he's restricted, so he's coming back. Whether
he likes it or not, I don't know, though Khl
I never thought of that you could lose a Russian
to bigger money over there. But anyway, let's talk Geno.
Jonathan Bambulli the Trip said yesterday he would let Malkin
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play for the Penguins as long as he wants. TK
joins me at three thirty pm, and I bet he
wants to bring Gino back as well. And conventional wisdom says, well,
people on Twitter say that you won't replace his points
spending the same amount of money on a different player,
but that assumes a lot for Gino next year as
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he turns forty, that he can keep producing. And I
say again, you can't build on old, So get your
calls in a three three four to one two ws
x's to Mark Madden's show on one oh five ninety X. Yeah,
you can't build on old. The Penguins are nowhere near
Stanley Cup and I hope he's not listening. But if
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Sid really wants to win again, it won't be here.
I hate to give him any ideas, and I do
think he finishes here no matter what. But if he
wants to win again, it will not be here, and
that sucks and I want him to stay and Sid,
with everything he's won, doesn't need to be a ring
chaser but it's true. You know he can't win here again.
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The team will not win again in Sid's timeframe, not
win a cup. They might make the playoffs, but they
did that this year and did it really matter? I mean,
Sid gave his best and he took losing. I don't
want to say took it well, but he he gave
a very good postgame about what happened, and YadA YadA,
didn't seem bitter. But you know he hates losing, let
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alone to the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I say again, you can't build on old.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Guy tweeted time's running out for Sid, some Canadian hockey
writer and he listed all the Penguins playoff disappointment since
twenty eighteen. And I tweeted back, and I used a
bunch of expletives running out for what dipstick?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I didn't say stick.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He has three Stanley Cups and six international gold medals
in every individual award you could win. And then I said,
you know who's running out of time, Mick Jesus. But
y'all in Canada don't want to say that, but I
do repeat. You can't build on old. You can't patch
what the Penguins got together. Look, Tank's under contract for
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two more years. Malkin's out of contract. If Malkins brought back,
I won't be outraged. Sid is gonna want that, and
the new owners won't want to be the bad guy.
So if you made me bet right now, I don't
think Kyle would like to bring him back the GM
Kyle dubis, but I think Malcolm.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Will come back. And another reason I wouldn't bring him back.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Forget about the points, points frontale, anything that matter, not
when you're lose in the first round, not when you
lost more games on the season than you won. Points
aren't the anything that matters. These Peng was they've got
to change the culture. It's an old culture. Early in
the year, and I talked about this quite a bit
when it was happening early in the year when a
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lot of kids were around. The culture was shifting. There
was a different energy and enthusiasm, and it was a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But the peng went.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Started eight too and two, and the kids got phased
down and out. Except for Kendall. It became an old
man's dressing room. And you can't build on old It
ain't all stats in nostalgia. It's about moving forward. If
that's what you choose, and that's what they should choose,
but maybe they won't. And if you bring Geno back,
here's where you really need to listen. Here's the stuff
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you don't want to hear, and you really need to hear.
The Pirates pulled a yakaty sacks on defense, Cardinals scored
two more runs.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Listen carefully. I feel like Ben Affleck explained to Jay.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And Silent Bob, and Jay and Silumpop strike back.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Am I getting through to you at all?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The culture won't accept Malkin being on like the third line,
won't accept him being not in the top six, and
he wouldn't accept it. And he does have the skill
set to adapt, he just has no idea, would have
no idea how to play on a third line like
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Trodier did. Trotier knew how to do it. He had
an element of that in his game. Anyway, Gino does not.
Trodi had the mentality to do it. Gino does not.
And if Gino comes back, he's got to be on
PP one.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Got to be.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The culture wouldn't accept otherwise. Where he's awful, where he
kills the power play, he's either shot or doesn't trust
it anymore. And he's a time bomb when it comes
to turnovers and shorthanded goals conceded when he plays PP one.
So I've told you why you shouldn't bring Geno back.
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I bet they do anyway, and honestly, I won't have
a big problem with it. I'll be really blunt. If
I live to see another cup that would be a miracle.
So hey, let's have fun with the old dudes. Am
I getting through to you at all? If you bring
your Geno back, the ramifications, that's the baggage what I
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just said. And if he was under contract that did
not necessarily want to trade him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But he isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You can't build on old and you got to start
building unless you don't. But tell me call now. Eight
three three four one two WSDX. Tell me what's the
good reason to bring him back besides indulging nostalgia and
keeping the old gang together. Tell me a good reason
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to bring back Geno. Eight three three four one two WSDX.
And I don't hate him. You think I hate him,
I hate you. I don't hate him, and it won't
bother me if they bring him back. I'm just pointing
out what to me is obvious as a super genius
and a hockey guy.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
If they bring him back, it'll be the wrong thing.
I'm right about this. But if they bring him back,
I have no complaints. Here's something to consider, and this
might bug me a bit. There was speculation that he'd
signed with Washington because he's tight with Ov.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, they could.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Really use another really old guy in Washington. Last year
was their year to have one last gasp with the
old dudes like Ov. This was the penguins last year
to have that. I think Malco would go to Philly.
I pretty much know they want him, and I think
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they would see him as a guy who's won. They
could impart some to their younger players, especially Mitchkoff. And
by the way talking handled Mitchkoff perfectly benched them for
Game five. You know, put a rocket up Mitchkoff's backside.
Mitchkoff was their best player last night. Should have scored,
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had more chance than anybody. He was their best player. Man,
the media that don't know hockey, like that idiot at ESPN,
Well Takit just doesn't like Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, he knows what he's doing. He's dragging the best
out of a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Like that, a lazy guy that it's tough to drag
a good performance out of. But Taka did exactly that
last night. Another thing about bringing Malkin back. Tom and
I talked earlier. Your strength might be morrishoff and shilloffs
in goal. You want to do good, you want to overachieve,
play a tight defensive system in front of them. The
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Penguins have about seven or eight guys who would refuse
to do that, with Gino being at the top of
that list. Not Hayton just saying you can't build on old.
Get your calls in now eight three three four one
two wxdx. We might push the Buco round up back
because the game is still in progress. But let's talk Gino.
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Let's talk his return. Let's talk uh why if they should.
If you think they should bring them back, give me
a good reason why, and not just because you own
a geno jersey?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Am I getting through to you?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
At all?
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Speaker 2 (10:13):
We got some called there's time for bucco roundup.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Pirates currently trail seven to four in the eighth at PNC,
the last game of the series against Saint Louis. Pirates
set to lose a fifth game in a row that
would drop into five hundred and sixteen and sixteen. Saint
Louis got three runs off Paul Skeens in the top
of the first, two home runs including by JJ Weatherhold,
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the rookie from Mars who has seven home runs on
the year. Connor Griffin has two. Two rookies same draft
class first round. Weather holds seven home runs, Griffin two.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just say it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Skens couldn't stop the Pirate losing streak, which is what
the A is supposed to do. Usually, when the Pirates
lose one of his starts, he is not culpable, but
in this one he is very much so. Pirates are
last in the Nlcentral. Now Here's how weird the standings
in baseball can be. Early in the season. Cincinnati's in
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first in the NL Center with a one differential of
minus five. The Pirates are in last place with a
one differential of plus seventeen. And that's again it reflects
the oddity of standings early in a baseball season, but
it's also because the Pirates are finding ways to lose.
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Like this game, they had just about caught up at
five to four when Reynolds mangled a play in the outfield.
He got a couple hits today, but he was zero
for four last night. He's down at about two forty
batting average. Haven't seen the update, but what a waste
of money he is. Chandler lost last night. Bubbup ain't
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what they needed to be. A lot of regulars aren't
hitting and won'ts. The payers need to make a move,
need to make a trade, need to get somebody, need
to get things turned in the right direction. You can't
be patient when you're a borderline playoff team. You have
to be reactionary. And as I've said, they needed to
build a cushion and get in a playoff spot and
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hold the other teams off. But that is not happening.
So any Hohodles seven to four in the top of
the eighth at PNC and that is the BUCO roundup
for Thursday. Okay, let's talk penguins. I wonder what you think,
should Gino stay or should he go?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We got.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We got Tyler Kennedy at the bottom of the hour
talking penguins. This is comprehensive penguins talk. Ain't nobody better
than me at it. Let's go to Dan. Dan, you're
on with double.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
M hey Mark.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, I agree full heartedly out the culture issue, and
I think it's the one of the key factors that
costs in the series. I think going into games one
and two, the culture came into arrogant. I think that
they thought that that's.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just that's just not true at all.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
When I talk about the culture, I'm talking about the
culture moving forward. But I can tell you for a
fact that that locker room assumed nothing about winning this series.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So what do you think contributed to a slow start
at home? Because that just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Uh, that I agree with. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
They just stopped scoring, and that was what my column
in the trip address, that they just stopped scoring. And
early in the series the Penguins couldn't figure out the
flyer's trap. But they did and they got you know,
after about the midway point of the second game, they
had unlocked it. They were using dumps to stretch the
flyers vertically, they were using width to stretch them horizontally,
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and before you knew it, they were getting in with
control and getting more zone time. But they just they
just couldn't score. That's why they lost the series, bro,
They just they just couldn't score. And you have to
ask some questions there, because they scored two hundred ninety
three goals to finish third in the NHL, but they
stopped scoring and maybe they got worn out. And again
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that's where the age comes in. Not the culture in
this case, but literally the age. Let's go to our
good friend Bob, oh, my friend, how are you?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And Mark? Yeah? Depressed fan. Here. I'll tell you one
player that really disappointment and I love him. That's Rusty.
In game three, I think we had momentum. We were
up one Zibo until what happened with Rusty and they
got back in the game. They got too.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Wait what what what happened with Rusty? What am I
missing when he pulled Martone's hair?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, no, no, no, no, no other thing was Kanski.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm sorry, I'm forgetting the obvious. Yeah yeah, Rusty's the
last guy I'm gonna blame. I mean, he should not
have been given the extra penalty there. Should he have
walked away? I don't know, he just got elbow in
the face. I think the referees screwed that one up.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Ren Rue screwed the lots of them. But Rusty, even
in game two, I could look at his face.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Bob here, Bob, Bob here, you're you're a Malkin fan,
aren't you.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, I Mark and I have a point there too, okay,
as well as the really saying they should bring him back. Okay,
but they need he needs to play with Crosby on
the first line.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Goodbye, Bob. That's just absurdly stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You want to take sid whose game is still based
on speed, and put a slow guy on there who's
slowing down all the time for nostalgias.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Steak, Bob. I was willing to listen, but not to that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
There are a lot of scenarios you could give me
where you could bring Malkin back.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's not one of them. To play on SIDS line.
Forget that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Uh up next, we're gonna talk to Tyler Kennedy, who
I bet wants to bring Malkin back, but not put
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Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Speaker 2 (16:11):
Exit one.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Ten four Cardinals now in the eighth. It's all going bad,
but not as bad as it went last night. Despite
a great game, the Penguins have been eliminated. Joining me
now to discuss the Pens and their exit. He won
a Stanley Cup with a team in two thousand and nine.
Always a pleasure to talk to Tyler Kennedy TK. Where
was this series lost? Give me the front page.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
In the first three games, I feel like Philly came
in red hot. They had their game and they jumped
on us, and it took us two to three games
to get our game or we needed you know, it
took us two or three games to adapt and figure
out a way in a process and how we had
to win and how we had to play.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I agree, I don't think they unlocked Phillies trapped
till maybe the middle of the second game. And it
took them a while on top of that to figure
out what to do with it, with that unlocking, But
why couldn't they score?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That was the weirdest part.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They finished third in the league in goals on the
year and then scored eleven goals in six games and
one was an empty netter and one was that but
tang Fluke in game five.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well, you got to get Philly a lot of credit.
They blocked a lot of shots.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They were in front of pucks. They kept us to
the outside. They made it hard for our guys to
hang out in front of it like they That's when
that like sandpaper, that little bit of toughness in that
little bit of that agitating game comes to play makes
you think twice about going to the front of that
and hanging out there and you know, getting those dirty goals.
That was a big one. And another one we didn't.
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We didn't hit the net enough, you know, speaking from
a guy that never hit the net that much they did.
It seemed like Chinikov couldn't get his shot dialed in.
Some other guys couldn't penetrate. Guys that usually score like Mantha,
like Chet and Cough, they just could not find the
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back and then they kind of went the cold spell.
And when you go to the playoffs, you got to
you gotta score in different ways. You got to get
those dirty ones, and those guys, I feel like they
were just trying to score off those you know, the quick,
hard shots or the pretty plays, when that's not always
a case in playoffs. Yeah, I agree, It's almost like
they had the yips, like they were getting too complicated
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because the puck wasn't going in.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I gotta give the Fires credit. Also, they went
to the net.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The Penguins did not, and that's how they got the
winning goal through traffic.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, like it seemed like their bottom lines every time
they got a shot in the net, they literally went
to the net and stood there. And I don't think
we did that enough, you know, and some of the
guys are bringing the puck to the net. But there
was that second chances, the stuff that I thought they
were pretty good at during the year, like the second chances,
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the rebound goals, that kind of stuff. They didn't give
much of that up during the playoffs. Like you look
at last night when Brian Russ went to the net
and it was a great power move and the puck
was there and he missed it. There was no secondary
pressure or no one else was there to like jamming in,
and that was that. That's tough. And then when you
look at their their game and their guys, like they
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don't have the most skill guys, but they play a hard,
gritty game, and that that leads to success in playoffs,
like those those bad gritty goals going to the front
of the net, hanging out there, you know, stirring it up,
Like that's how you kind of win in playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Hey man, there's some Penguins I was impressed with, in
particular the guys on defense. And I gotta give Chris
Latang a lot of credit. I thought of the seas
as the series h grew older, TK he might have
been the Peng's best player. And I thought the whole
defensive cour did pretty good, especially last night.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I thought they played unbelievable last night. I thought,
you know, you knew they were playing good, you knew
they're getting all the chances, but you also knew it
was just one bad shot that can go in to
tend the series. But for Chris, I thought he struggled
in the first two two and a half games. Then
he got a goal, and I thought his confidence kind
of grew from there, and then he started to find
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his game. And when Chris gets points, I feel he
gets more comfortable playing simpler than when he doesn't get points.
When he gets when he's off the score sheet for
a period of time, he forces plays. He almost plays
outside of his means, where he makes those unnecessary chances
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that always come back. And when he scored, I felt
like he really found his playoff game. He kept it
simply moved his feet and he was physical like he's
a big, strong guy. Last night, the penalty was a
tough one to take and connect me obviously kind of
drew it. But I thought he played well. I thought
it was his kind of is time to shine, Like, hey,
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this is this is why I have three Stanley Cups,
because I raise I raised the occasion and I can
play big time hockey. And he played well again. He
was one of the best defensemen I saw on the
ice all night last night.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And you know who else I give credit to for
the whole series, let alone last night, TK is the
fourth line. I thought it was the Penguin's best playing
all series. But you know, megaprops to them, but that's
not a good recipe, is it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
No like, and I feel like the other lines started
to play like them getting like the biggest reason why
they were successful is because they were hard on pucks, right.
They had that secondary pressure as soon as they moved
the puck, but they were able to hang on the
pucks down low, take it to the net, be first
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on pucks. And why I feel like the series change
mark from Game three to four is how we started
to relieve the pressure and how we were able to
flip pucks and get on them or even chip pucks
deep and we were on our toes. We had the
first guy going hard after the puck and then that
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second guy didn't give their pass any time to react
in that fourth line plays like that all the time,
and that's why they're successful. But that's we didn't figure
that out until it was almost too late.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I felt really bad for Ben Kendall TK. I bet
you did too, because I think for teenage kid, he
had a great season. It didn't produce in the playoffs,
but worked his guts out and then the ice to
puck and lose the draw in the overtime goal. And
don't get me wrong, I'm not scapegoating him at all,
far from it, but you can't not talk about it either.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, Like they had a hard shift right, and you
kind of you almost felt like, oh my god, this
next thirty seconds is going to be huge because what
we just did to them. I think it was Crosby
line where we held them in for almost three or
four minutes and then they held us in and then
he ices the puck and he didn't get any time
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to rest. And when that happened, you can almost feel
it coming. But one thing I loved about Kingdall that
I think the future is bright from and I think
he's going to be a big star for the Penguins
is when there was a scrum, like he was right
in there, Like he didn't shy away from the roughness,
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even though he got thrown around a little bit. He
shows some courage he got in there. I saw him
kind of getting at Mark Tone's face like that's what
you want to see from an eight year old getting
in there, right. He didn't shy away. And again he's
he's someone we're looking forward to and see how high
his steeling could go. Because he had a great season
hanging on to the pucks and sometimes marking the playoffs,
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it's a different game and it takes you one or
two years to figure out how to be success. So
my first year I didn't score a goal and we
went all the way to the finals. And then the
next year I was like, Okay, it's not that fancy game.
If I'm going to score, I'm pretty much going to
the house. I'm taking the puck bells and I'm trying
to get those much right. Muse went back to his
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old style. He was rolling three lines and he got
a lot of ice tein which is great to see.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We're talking to Tyler Kennedy two thousand and nine Stanley
Cup winner. You see him on sports Net Pittsburgh. DK
Shiloffs was great. I hope he turned the corner. And
this is a a preview things to come because I
think he and Morishoff could be a formidable goaltending tandem.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah. I felt like after the Olympics he came back
with a different mindset, mindset that he just looked more
confident and I thought he played unbelievable last night. He
comes up with those big saves. I liked how he
played right. He never knew. I never knew what you're
going to get right going into the playoffs after sitting
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out the three games, and he gets his call and
he plays well. He keeps you in the game. And
that's a tough, tough shot from the point last night,
but he didn't even see it. It might have been deflected.
But yeah, Like, there's a lot of good reasons to
be happy about the Pittsburgh Penguins because Ben kindall the
goalie situation, the cap space, a lot of good things,
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Like I'm excited to see one the new generation of
Pittsburgh Penguin guys come in. How Kyle dubis is going
to change this team a little bit to improve it
over the summer and see guys grow, And that starts
with ben kindall.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
TK here's here's the big debate on this and any
other radio program. The unrestricted free agents are Malkin, Shaye
do or a Charie Clifton, Manta solely off and Skinner,
Which would you bring back?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well? I like Shay, I thought he played well. He
grew a ton this year, right, I think he grew
ton this year. I think he couldn't ask. I think
Clifton did enough to call him back. Witherspoon again another guy.
I think he kind of get your feet wet, but
they played well. One that I still think I know
might disagree. I think you still got to bring Milkin
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back if you can get him to understand he's going
to play third four line minutes even though it's not
going to be hard. And in the big reason there Mark,
I think he will help china Kov become a star
in the league by just being around him, understanding what
it takes like when you go to a different country,
it's so nice to have a guy who speaks your language,
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is your countryman. And that's one three three Stanley Cups.
It could be a future Hall of Famer. So there's
a reason, a lot of reasons why i'd like to
see them bring back of getting Milkin. So I think
he's another guy that they might need to give him
another contract.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, I don't totally dismiss what you're saying, but but
let me just offer a disclaimer.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Would he be willing to play.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Bttom six because I just don't think so. Does he
have a bottom six skill set? And I'd take him
off the top power play too, because he's blocking guys there.
He's blocking guys like Tinacuff and Kindle, and he's a
liability for shortthanded chances. So there'd be certain things that
had to have to accept, and he might to get
a contract. But then what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, even in the last game, when when you take
him off that top TP, you throw Kindle or China cough,
it created more because I think those n shoot more
than Heino. Gino is almost like trigger shy doing his
one timers from the wall. He's trying to make that
pretty play across and it just wasn't working. In the playoffs,
you got a pound pucks and go hunt bucks and
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those are the conversations you need to have with them.
And I think Gino knows where he's at in his career,
and if he thinks he's somewhere else, that that's when
you start making those tough decisions with him. But if
he can understand those situations that hey, this team, we
need not to move on from you, but we need
to give other guys opportunity. And I think Gino has
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been around long enough that he understands that, and I
think he would take that not so much a back
role position, more of a guiding position for others. That
for a guy that's been there for you know, twenty
one years.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
What about Mantha because he scored thirty three goals, but
not in the playoffs. His rap has always been to
not score in the playoffs, but any goals in the
regular season too. You see, I wouldn't hate bringing him back,
but I just think he's going to cost too much
having had that season.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I think is price
tag and you know, thirty three goals, Like he's gonna
be won eight nine million or three thirty three goals,
And I'm not ready to give him that contract after
the year he had. Yeah, he put thirty three in.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But yeah, the most i'd give him TK, I'd give
him two years for X million PERR and he's just
gonna get more than that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, people, that's that's the
kind of have a great playoff, but you got to
get there too, and that's by scoring goals. And he
was a piece. But I think it depends how the
lineup is, right, Like I thought he had great chemistry
with Brazo, with Elmer, I thought he played pretty well
with Elmer, Like he's very good and he's very smart
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with playing other with other big guys, other big boys
that hang on the puck. And then I'd keep him
with Kindle because Kindle's that speister that's all over the
ice that plays all the big guys. They opened the ice.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Up, gave up on him without knowing, and look what happened.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, And like I Mark, I feel like Senank like no, sorry,
Coyven and McGrory, they they've had a little bit of
a sniff to kind of shield them stuff a little bit.
Like at the end of the day, Avery Hayes be
beat them out of their position.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, no question.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Actually I left him off because I feel like he's automatic.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, because I think, yeah, everyone tries hard, you got
to do more than try hard. You got to produce,
and they just haven't at the NHL level yet.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
TK is always great stuff, great work on Sports Net Pittsburgh.
You're gonna keep joining us during the playoffs and I
look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Thanks again, Yeah, thank you, Mark, Definitely, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's the great Tyler Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Boy, what a media juggernaut he's become him Army Matt Barkowski,
all of them doing a terrific job.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Buggsy Pirates lose
Okay, here's why I want your calls or where you're
gonna want to call. So dial now eight three three
four one two WXDX.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let's look ahead with.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
The Penguins already, because that's how this industry works. Chay
is an unrestricted free agent. I'd bring him back a
Swiss army knife either side, any pair on defense play
at the team in plus minus. If he's not too expensive,
i'd bring him back. Door is an unrestricted free agent.
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I'd maybe bring him back. He's twenty six. Skate's great,
good fourth liner if he's affordable.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
But then again, I want kids to play in the
bottom six because you got to.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Mantha outs A, Charie Outs, Clifton Out solely off out
Skinner Outs and might I add I'm very comfortable with
the goaltending candem next year, potentially of Shilloffs and Morrishaw.
It could be the team's biggest strength. And that brings
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us to Agetty Malkin, also an unrestricted free agent. I
did mention Chinakov he's restricted, so he's coming back. Whether
he likes it or not, I don't know, though Khl
I never thought of that you could lose a Russian
to bigger money over there. But anyway, let's talk Geno.
Jonathan Bambulli the Trip said yesterday he would let Malkin
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play for the Penguins as long as he wants. TK
joins me at three thirty pm, and I bet he
wants to bring Gino back as well. And conventional wisdom says, well,
people on Twitter say that you won't replace his points
spending the same amount of money on a different player,
but that assumes a lot for Gino next year as
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he turns forty, that he can keep producing. And I
say again, you can't build on old, So get your
calls in a three three four to one two ws
x's to Mark Madden's show on one oh five ninety X. Yeah,
you can't build on old. The Penguins are nowhere near
Stanley Cup and I hope he's not listening. But if
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Sid really wants to win again, it won't be here.
I hate to give him any ideas, and I do
think he finishes here no matter what. But if he
wants to win again, it will not be here, and
that sucks and I want him to stay and Sid,
with everything he's won, doesn't need to be a ring
chaser but it's true. You know he can't win here again.
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The team will not win again in Sid's timeframe, not
win a cup. They might make the playoffs, but they
did that this year and did it really matter? I mean,
Sid gave his best and he took losing. I don't
want to say took it well, but he he gave
a very good postgame about what happened, and YadA YadA,
didn't seem bitter. But you know he hates losing, let
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alone to the Flyers.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I say again, you can't build on old.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Guy tweeted time's running out for Sid, some Canadian hockey
writer and he listed all the Penguins playoff disappointment since
twenty eighteen. And I tweeted back, and I used a
bunch of expletives running out for what dipstick?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
And I didn't say stick.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He has three Stanley Cups and six international gold medals
in every individual award you could win. And then I said,
you know who's running out of time, Mick Jesus. But
y'all in Canada don't want to say that, but I
do repeat. You can't build on old. You can't patch
what the Penguins got together. Look, Tank's under contract for
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two more years. Malkin's out of contract. If Malkins brought back,
I won't be outraged. Sid is gonna want that, and
the new owners won't want to be the bad guy.
So if you made me bet right now, I don't
think Kyle would like to bring him back the GM
Kyle dubis, but I think Malcolm.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Will come back. And another reason I wouldn't bring him back.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Forget about the points, points frontale, anything that matter, not
when you're lose in the first round, not when you
lost more games on the season than you won. Points
aren't the anything that matters. These Peng was they've got
to change the culture. It's an old culture. Early in
the year, and I talked about this quite a bit
when it was happening early in the year when a
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lot of kids were around. The culture was shifting. There
was a different energy and enthusiasm, and it was a
good thing.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But the peng went.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Started eight too and two, and the kids got phased
down and out. Except for Kendall. It became an old
man's dressing room. And you can't build on old It
ain't all stats in nostalgia. It's about moving forward. If
that's what you choose, and that's what they should choose,
but maybe they won't. And if you bring Geno back,
here's where you really need to listen. Here's the stuff
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you don't want to hear, and you really need to hear.
The Pirates pulled a yakaty sacks on defense, Cardinals scored
two more runs.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Listen carefully. I feel like Ben Affleck explained to Jay.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And Silent Bob, and Jay and Silumpop strike back.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Am I getting through to you at all?
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The culture won't accept Malkin being on like the third line,
won't accept him being not in the top six, and
he wouldn't accept it. And he does have the skill
set to adapt, he just has no idea, would have
no idea how to play on a third line like
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Trodier did. Trotier knew how to do it. He had
an element of that in his game. Anyway, Gino does not.
Trodi had the mentality to do it. Gino does not.
And if Gino comes back, he's got to be on
PP one.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Got to be.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The culture wouldn't accept otherwise. Where he's awful, where he
kills the power play, he's either shot or doesn't trust
it anymore. And he's a time bomb when it comes
to turnovers and shorthanded goals conceded when he plays PP one.
So I've told you why you shouldn't bring Geno back.
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I bet they do anyway, and honestly, I won't have
a big problem with it. I'll be really blunt. If
I live to see another cup that would be a miracle.
So hey, let's have fun with the old dudes. Am
I getting through to you at all? If you bring
your Geno back, the ramifications, that's the baggage what I
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just said. And if he was under contract that did
not necessarily want to trade him.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
But he isn't.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
You can't build on old and you got to start
building unless you don't. But tell me call now. Eight
three three four one two WSDX. Tell me what's the
good reason to bring him back besides indulging nostalgia and
keeping the old gang together. Tell me a good reason
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to bring back Geno. Eight three three four one two WSDX.
And I don't hate him. You think I hate him,
I hate you. I don't hate him, and it won't
bother me if they bring him back. I'm just pointing
out what to me is obvious as a super genius
and a hockey guy.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
If they bring him back, it'll be the wrong thing.
I'm right about this. But if they bring him back,
I have no complaints. Here's something to consider, and this
might bug me a bit. There was speculation that he'd
signed with Washington because he's tight with Ov.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, they could.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Really use another really old guy in Washington. Last year
was their year to have one last gasp with the
old dudes like Ov. This was the penguins last year
to have that. I think Malco would go to Philly.
I pretty much know they want him, and I think
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they would see him as a guy who's won. They
could impart some to their younger players, especially Mitchkoff. And
by the way talking handled Mitchkoff perfectly benched them for
Game five. You know, put a rocket up Mitchkoff's backside.
Mitchkoff was their best player last night. Should have scored,
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had more chance than anybody. He was their best player. Man,
the media that don't know hockey, like that idiot at ESPN,
Well Takit just doesn't like Russians.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, he knows what he's doing. He's dragging the best
out of a guy.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Like that, a lazy guy that it's tough to drag
a good performance out of. But Taka did exactly that
last night. Another thing about bringing Malkin back. Tom and
I talked earlier. Your strength might be morrishoff and shilloffs
in goal. You want to do good, you want to overachieve,
play a tight defensive system in front of them. The
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Penguins have about seven or eight guys who would refuse
to do that, with Gino being at the top of
that list. Not Hayton just saying you can't build on old.
Get your calls in now eight three three four one
two wxdx. We might push the Buco round up back
because the game is still in progress. But let's talk Gino.
(09:19):
Let's talk his return. Let's talk uh why if they should.
If you think they should bring them back, give me
a good reason why, and not just because you own
a geno jersey?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Am I getting through to you?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
At all?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
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Speaker 2 (10:13):
We got some called there's time for bucco roundup.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Pirates currently trail seven to four in the eighth at PNC,
the last game of the series against Saint Louis. Pirates
set to lose a fifth game in a row that
would drop into five hundred and sixteen and sixteen. Saint
Louis got three runs off Paul Skeens in the top
of the first, two home runs including by JJ Weatherhold,
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the rookie from Mars who has seven home runs on
the year. Connor Griffin has two. Two rookies same draft
class first round. Weather holds seven home runs, Griffin two.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just say it. Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Skens couldn't stop the Pirate losing streak, which is what
the A is supposed to do. Usually, when the Pirates
lose one of his starts, he is not culpable, but
in this one he is very much so. Pirates are
last in the Nlcentral. Now Here's how weird the standings
in baseball can be. Early in the season. Cincinnati's in
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first in the NL Center with a one differential of
minus five. The Pirates are in last place with a
one differential of plus seventeen. And that's again it reflects
the oddity of standings early in a baseball season, but
it's also because the Pirates are finding ways to lose.
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Like this game, they had just about caught up at
five to four when Reynolds mangled a play in the outfield.
He got a couple hits today, but he was zero
for four last night. He's down at about two forty
batting average. Haven't seen the update, but what a waste
of money he is. Chandler lost last night. Bubbup ain't
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what they needed to be. A lot of regulars aren't
hitting and won'ts. The payers need to make a move,
need to make a trade, need to get somebody, need
to get things turned in the right direction. You can't
be patient when you're a borderline playoff team. You have
to be reactionary. And as I've said, they needed to
build a cushion and get in a playoff spot and
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hold the other teams off. But that is not happening.
So any Hohodles seven to four in the top of
the eighth at PNC and that is the BUCO roundup
for Thursday. Okay, let's talk penguins. I wonder what you think,
should Gino stay or should he go?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
We got.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
We got Tyler Kennedy at the bottom of the hour
talking penguins. This is comprehensive penguins talk. Ain't nobody better
than me at it. Let's go to Dan. Dan, you're
on with double.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
M hey Mark.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, I agree full heartedly out the culture issue, and
I think it's the one of the key factors that
costs in the series. I think going into games one
and two, the culture came into arrogant. I think that
they thought that that's.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Just that's just not true at all.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
When I talk about the culture, I'm talking about the
culture moving forward. But I can tell you for a
fact that that locker room assumed nothing about winning this series.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So what do you think contributed to a slow start
at home? Because that just can't happen.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Uh, that I agree with. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
They just stopped scoring, and that was what my column
in the trip address, that they just stopped scoring. And
early in the series the Penguins couldn't figure out the
flyer's trap. But they did and they got you know,
after about the midway point of the second game, they
had unlocked it. They were using dumps to stretch the
flyers vertically, they were using width to stretch them horizontally,
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and before you knew it, they were getting in with
control and getting more zone time. But they just they
just couldn't score. That's why they lost the series, bro,
They just they just couldn't score. And you have to
ask some questions there, because they scored two hundred ninety
three goals to finish third in the NHL, but they
stopped scoring and maybe they got worn out. And again
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that's where the age comes in. Not the culture in
this case, but literally the age. Let's go to our
good friend Bob, oh, my friend, how are you?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And Mark? Yeah? Depressed fan. Here. I'll tell you one
player that really disappointment and I love him. That's Rusty.
In game three, I think we had momentum. We were
up one Zibo until what happened with Rusty and they
got back in the game. They got too.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Wait what what what happened with Rusty? What am I
missing when he pulled Martone's hair?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
No, no, no, no, no, no other thing was Kanski.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I'm sorry, I'm forgetting the obvious. Yeah yeah, Rusty's the
last guy I'm gonna blame. I mean, he should not
have been given the extra penalty there. Should he have
walked away? I don't know, he just got elbow in
the face. I think the referees screwed that one up.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Ren Rue screwed the lots of them. But Rusty, even
in game two, I could look at his face.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Bob here, Bob, Bob here, you're you're a Malkin fan,
aren't you.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, I Mark and I have a point there too, okay,
as well as the really saying they should bring him back. Okay,
but they need he needs to play with Crosby on
the first line.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Goodbye, Bob. That's just absurdly stupid.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
You want to take sid whose game is still based
on speed, and put a slow guy on there who's
slowing down all the time for nostalgias.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Steak, Bob. I was willing to listen, but not to that.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
There are a lot of scenarios you could give me
where you could bring Malkin back.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That's not one of them. To play on SIDS line.
Forget that.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Uh up next, we're gonna talk to Tyler Kennedy, who
I bet wants to bring Malkin back, but not put
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Speaker 3 (16:08):
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Speaker 2 (16:11):
Exit one.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Ten four Cardinals now in the eighth. It's all going bad,
but not as bad as it went last night. Despite
a great game, the Penguins have been eliminated. Joining me
now to discuss the Pens and their exit. He won
a Stanley Cup with a team in two thousand and nine.
Always a pleasure to talk to Tyler Kennedy TK. Where
was this series lost? Give me the front page.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
In the first three games, I feel like Philly came
in red hot. They had their game and they jumped
on us, and it took us two to three games
to get our game or we needed you know, it
took us two or three games to adapt and figure
out a way in a process and how we had
to win and how we had to play.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, I agree, I don't think they unlocked Phillies trapped
till maybe the middle of the second game. And it
took them a while on top of that to figure
out what to do with it, with that unlocking, But
why couldn't they score?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
That was the weirdest part.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They finished third in the league in goals on the
year and then scored eleven goals in six games and
one was an empty netter and one was that but
tang Fluke in game five.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well, you got to get Philly a lot of credit.
They blocked a lot of shots.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
They were in front of pucks. They kept us to
the outside. They made it hard for our guys to
hang out in front of it like they That's when
that like sandpaper, that little bit of toughness in that
little bit of that agitating game comes to play makes
you think twice about going to the front of that
and hanging out there and you know, getting those dirty goals.
That was a big one. And another one we didn't.
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We didn't hit the net enough, you know, speaking from
a guy that never hit the net that much they did.
It seemed like Chinikov couldn't get his shot dialed in.
Some other guys couldn't penetrate. Guys that usually score like Mantha,
like Chet and Cough, they just could not find the
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back and then they kind of went the cold spell.
And when you go to the playoffs, you got to
you gotta score in different ways. You got to get
those dirty ones, and those guys, I feel like they
were just trying to score off those you know, the quick,
hard shots or the pretty plays, when that's not always
a case in playoffs. Yeah, I agree, It's almost like
they had the yips, like they were getting too complicated
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because the puck wasn't going in.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I gotta give the Fires credit. Also, they went
to the net.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The Penguins did not, and that's how they got the
winning goal through traffic.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, like it seemed like their bottom lines every time
they got a shot in the net, they literally went
to the net and stood there. And I don't think
we did that enough, you know, and some of the
guys are bringing the puck to the net. But there
was that second chances, the stuff that I thought they
were pretty good at during the year, like the second chances,
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the rebound goals, that kind of stuff. They didn't give
much of that up during the playoffs. Like you look
at last night when Brian Russ went to the net
and it was a great power move and the puck
was there and he missed it. There was no secondary
pressure or no one else was there to like jamming in,
and that was that. That's tough. And then when you
look at their their game and their guys, like they
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don't have the most skill guys, but they play a hard,
gritty game, and that that leads to success in playoffs,
like those those bad gritty goals going to the front
of the net, hanging out there, you know, stirring it up,
Like that's how you kind of win in playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Hey man, there's some Penguins I was impressed with, in
particular the guys on defense. And I gotta give Chris
Latang a lot of credit. I thought of the seas
as the series h grew older, TK he might have
been the Peng's best player. And I thought the whole
defensive cour did pretty good, especially last night.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yeah, I thought they played unbelievable last night. I thought,
you know, you knew they were playing good, you knew
they're getting all the chances, but you also knew it
was just one bad shot that can go in to
tend the series. But for Chris, I thought he struggled
in the first two two and a half games. Then
he got a goal, and I thought his confidence kind
of grew from there, and then he started to find
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his game. And when Chris gets points, I feel he
gets more comfortable playing simpler than when he doesn't get points.
When he gets when he's off the score sheet for
a period of time, he forces plays. He almost plays
outside of his means, where he makes those unnecessary chances
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that always come back. And when he scored, I felt
like he really found his playoff game. He kept it
simply moved his feet and he was physical like he's
a big, strong guy. Last night, the penalty was a
tough one to take and connect me obviously kind of
drew it. But I thought he played well. I thought
it was his kind of is time to shine, Like, hey,
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this is this is why I have three Stanley Cups,
because I raise I raised the occasion and I can
play big time hockey. And he played well again. He
was one of the best defensemen I saw on the
ice all night last night.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
No, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And you know who else I give credit to for
the whole series, let alone last night, TK is the
fourth line. I thought it was the Penguin's best playing
all series. But you know, megaprops to them, but that's
not a good recipe, is it.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
No like, and I feel like the other lines started
to play like them getting like the biggest reason why
they were successful is because they were hard on pucks, right.
They had that secondary pressure as soon as they moved
the puck, but they were able to hang on the
pucks down low, take it to the net, be first
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on pucks. And why I feel like the series change
mark from Game three to four is how we started
to relieve the pressure and how we were able to
flip pucks and get on them or even chip pucks
deep and we were on our toes. We had the
first guy going hard after the puck and then that
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second guy didn't give their pass any time to react
in that fourth line plays like that all the time,
and that's why they're successful. But that's we didn't figure
that out until it was almost too late.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I felt really bad for Ben Kendall TK. I bet
you did too, because I think for teenage kid, he
had a great season. It didn't produce in the playoffs,
but worked his guts out and then the ice to
puck and lose the draw in the overtime goal. And
don't get me wrong, I'm not scapegoating him at all,
far from it, but you can't not talk about it either.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Yeah, Like they had a hard shift right, and you
kind of you almost felt like, oh my god, this
next thirty seconds is going to be huge because what
we just did to them. I think it was Crosby
line where we held them in for almost three or
four minutes and then they held us in and then
he ices the puck and he didn't get any time
(23:16):
to rest. And when that happened, you can almost feel
it coming. But one thing I loved about Kingdall that
I think the future is bright from and I think
he's going to be a big star for the Penguins
is when there was a scrum, like he was right
in there, Like he didn't shy away from the roughness,
(23:36):
even though he got thrown around a little bit. He
shows some courage he got in there. I saw him
kind of getting at Mark Tone's face like that's what
you want to see from an eight year old getting
in there, right. He didn't shy away. And again he's
he's someone we're looking forward to and see how high
his steeling could go. Because he had a great season
hanging on to the pucks and sometimes marking the playoffs,
(23:58):
it's a different game and it takes you one or
two years to figure out how to be success. So
my first year I didn't score a goal and we
went all the way to the finals. And then the
next year I was like, Okay, it's not that fancy game.
If I'm going to score, I'm pretty much going to
the house. I'm taking the puck bells and I'm trying
to get those much right. Muse went back to his
(24:19):
old style. He was rolling three lines and he got
a lot of ice tein which is great to see.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
We're talking to Tyler Kennedy two thousand and nine Stanley
Cup winner. You see him on sports Net Pittsburgh. DK
Shiloffs was great. I hope he turned the corner. And
this is a a preview things to come because I
think he and Morishoff could be a formidable goaltending tandem.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah. I felt like after the Olympics he came back
with a different mindset, mindset that he just looked more
confident and I thought he played unbelievable last night. He
comes up with those big saves. I liked how he
played right. He never knew. I never knew what you're
going to get right going into the playoffs after sitting
(25:02):
out the three games, and he gets his call and
he plays well. He keeps you in the game. And
that's a tough, tough shot from the point last night,
but he didn't even see it. It might have been deflected.
But yeah, Like, there's a lot of good reasons to
be happy about the Pittsburgh Penguins because Ben kindall the
goalie situation, the cap space, a lot of good things,
(25:23):
Like I'm excited to see one the new generation of
Pittsburgh Penguin guys come in. How Kyle dubis is going
to change this team a little bit to improve it
over the summer and see guys grow, And that starts
with ben kindall.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
TK here's here's the big debate on this and any
other radio program. The unrestricted free agents are Malkin, Shaye
do or a Charie Clifton, Manta solely off and Skinner,
Which would you bring back?
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Well? I like Shay, I thought he played well. He
grew a ton this year, right, I think he grew
ton this year. I think he couldn't ask. I think
Clifton did enough to call him back. Witherspoon again another guy.
I think he kind of get your feet wet, but
they played well. One that I still think I know
might disagree. I think you still got to bring Milkin
(26:14):
back if you can get him to understand he's going
to play third four line minutes even though it's not
going to be hard. And in the big reason there Mark,
I think he will help china Kov become a star
in the league by just being around him, understanding what
it takes like when you go to a different country,
it's so nice to have a guy who speaks your language,
(26:35):
is your countryman. And that's one three three Stanley Cups.
It could be a future Hall of Famer. So there's
a reason, a lot of reasons why i'd like to
see them bring back of getting Milkin. So I think
he's another guy that they might need to give him
another contract.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, I don't totally dismiss what you're saying, but but
let me just offer a disclaimer.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Would he be willing to play.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Bttom six because I just don't think so. Does he
have a bottom six skill set? And I'd take him
off the top power play too, because he's blocking guys there.
He's blocking guys like Tinacuff and Kindle, and he's a
liability for shortthanded chances. So there'd be certain things that
had to have to accept, and he might to get
a contract. But then what actually happens.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, even in the last game, when when you take
him off that top TP, you throw Kindle or China cough,
it created more because I think those n shoot more
than Heino. Gino is almost like trigger shy doing his
one timers from the wall. He's trying to make that
pretty play across and it just wasn't working. In the playoffs,
you got a pound pucks and go hunt bucks and
(27:44):
those are the conversations you need to have with them.
And I think Gino knows where he's at in his career,
and if he thinks he's somewhere else, that that's when
you start making those tough decisions with him. But if
he can understand those situations that hey, this team, we
need not to move on from you, but we need
to give other guys opportunity. And I think Gino has
(28:05):
been around long enough that he understands that, and I
think he would take that not so much a back
role position, more of a guiding position for others. That
for a guy that's been there for you know, twenty
one years.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
What about Mantha because he scored thirty three goals, but
not in the playoffs. His rap has always been to
not score in the playoffs, but any goals in the
regular season too. You see, I wouldn't hate bringing him back,
but I just think he's going to cost too much
having had that season.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I think is price
tag and you know, thirty three goals, Like he's gonna
be won eight nine million or three thirty three goals,
And I'm not ready to give him that contract after
the year he had. Yeah, he put thirty three in.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But yeah, the most i'd give him TK, I'd give
him two years for X million PERR and he's just
gonna get more than that.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, people, that's that's the
kind of have a great playoff, but you got to
get there too, and that's by scoring goals. And he
was a piece. But I think it depends how the
lineup is, right, Like I thought he had great chemistry
with Brazo, with Elmer, I thought he played pretty well
with Elmer, Like he's very good and he's very smart
(29:26):
with playing other with other big guys, other big boys
that hang on the puck. And then I'd keep him
with Kindle because Kindle's that speister that's all over the
ice that plays all the big guys. They opened the ice.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Up, gave up on him without knowing, and look what happened.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, And like I Mark, I feel like Senank like no, sorry,
Coyven and McGrory, they they've had a little bit of
a sniff to kind of shield them stuff a little bit.
Like at the end of the day, Avery Hayes be
beat them out of their position.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
No, no question.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Actually I left him off because I feel like he's automatic.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, because I think, yeah, everyone tries hard, you got
to do more than try hard. You got to produce,
and they just haven't at the NHL level yet.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
TK is always great stuff, great work on Sports Net Pittsburgh.
You're gonna keep joining us during the playoffs and I
look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Thanks again, Yeah, thank you, Mark, Definitely, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's the great Tyler Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Boy, what a media juggernaut he's become him Army Matt Barkowski,
all of them doing a terrific job.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
Buggsy Pirates lose
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