January 21, 2026 • 47 mins
Mark is joined by Paul Zeise to talk Steelers coaching search and some Indiana. Tyler Kennedy joins the show to talk Penguins. Ask Mark Anything!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
They had a lot to talk about today in Liverpool
leading at the half. It's a great day so far.
Joining me now from the post because that's always a
pleasure to talk to columnist Paul Zeiss. Paul, let's stick
with the basics. Who would you pick right now to
be the new Steeler coach and why would you pick him?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'll tell you I don't know enough about these guys
from the Rams, but it triggers me to have a
guy like sure, if he's able to bring the other
the past game coordinator, you know, it seems like you
gets the best of both worlds. Sean McVeigh obviously is
a really brilliant coach. I think, you know, the way
he runs his team and the way that he runs
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his offenses, it's exactly what the Steelers need. It seems
like Chris shul is a really good young defensive mind.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So that combination is.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Something that I really probably am most interesting because I
think I think they would, you know, bring and cover
all of the bases that need to be covered, you know,
I know they interviewed Mike McCarthy today. I mean, you
might as well stay with Mike Tomlin if you're gonna
do that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm not sure really, you know, if that makes a
ton of sense, you know, but well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
If you have McCarthy, you're just gonna run it back.
You're gonna try to win right this second, gonna recycle
an old quarterback.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They might make Shuwa or whoever do that anyway, But
with McCarthy, I would say the intense obvious, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You, Yeah, I mean, and it seems it would seem
like you're trying to hang on to Aaron Rodgers. It
would seem like you're trying to, you know, do another
year where you can slop together.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Nine or ten wins and.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Hope that, you know, you get to the playoffs and
all that stuff. But to me, it feels like the
steerers generally, when they want to go in a different directions,
sort of go in a different direction. They like to
hire young that to hire up and comers. So to me,
McCarthy just doesn't make sense. And I always say this,
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and I used to say this, you know when Pitt
used to go through coaches every other year and everyone
screamed and yelled that they need a pit guy. You know,
if you took the fact that Mike McCarthy is from Pittsburgh.
Out of the equation, would he even be on the list,
would even be somebody you would interview, would even be
somebody who would bring in and talk to. No, No,
he's nothing against damn, but he doesn't fit the profile
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of what you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, let me tell you what I think.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
For sure, everything you said is right, but let me
go one notch further. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh, the
talk show callers and the talk show host would be
saying what a terrible idea it is. For the reasons
it is a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, I mean, it doesn't fit the profile of what
they're looking for, It doesn't fit the profile of what
they generally do when they hire people, and it doesn't
really move the franchise in a different directions.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's more of the same basically.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know, this guy has a formula where he can,
you know, figure out how to win enough games to
get to the playoffs, and you hope that you hit
lightning in a bottle with Aaron Rodgers. Well, what we
saw this year is there probably isn't any more.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Lightning in that bottle.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So move forward, you know, and I've heard people say, well,
he's a quarterback, whisper Well, that's great, but they don't
have a quarterback, so what's the point that's true.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
There's nobody to whisper to.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And I keep getting pissed, Well not really because honestly, Paul,
but you know, I legitimately don't care. But they always
think about now. It's always about now. And look at
the Patriots who totally rebuilt and got a franchise quarterback
six years after Brady left here in the AFC Championship
game because they reap the value of going four and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
At some point you got to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I know there's a lot of examples, and Mike
the course he did cite them to prove otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I'll take my chances with four and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Again, Like I get a kick out of all these
guys who find a way to port whatever the narrative
is they have and they want you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Don't say most of them, Paul. Whatever narrative the Steelers
put forth, here's.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The narrative that I would tell you.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The final four teams in the in the in the
in the that are still standing in the in the
NFL and the playoffs. You know, in the playoffs, we've
got two first overall picks, a third overall pick, and
eleventh and eleven overall pick.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think it's one. It's a one, two threes and
a twelve with Nix hurt. But yeah, it's the proofs
in the pudding for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, Nix is the twelve. I think May was what
a three? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And and Stafford and uh, who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Stafford was a one overall? And who was the other one?
I forget didn't even think who's Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, Pa was a three? Yeah, so one, three, three,
and twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, exactly what I'm trying to make.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ause you've got guys, you know, three guys that were
four guys that were all drafted in the top twelve picks.
You go back, you start looking at guys like Mahomes,
you know what I mean, and everybody will point the
Brock party. You know, Who's what I would call the exception,
as was Tom Brady. For the most part, guys that
are drafted high are the best guys in the draft
for a reason.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So to me, I feel like, you know this idea.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That you can somehow magically, you know, figure out a different.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Formula, it just doesn't happen, you know. Yeah, do you
have to hit on the right people, Yeah, you do,
just like you have to hire the right coach.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But that is a different discussion than the fact that
if you are drafting at the top of the draft
a couple of years, it gives you a much better
chance of actually having success.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, Paul, when you look at what the Patriots did too,
they drafted mac Jones I think it was fifteenth, and
it didn't work, so they drafted Drake me a couple
of years later. You keep throwing it at the wall
until something sticks, whereas the Steelers drafted Picket and then
just recycled old guys when that didn't work.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, I think that's the other lesson you can learn
from the Patriots, Mark is the and the Eagles too.
They hired Jared Mayo to be the coach.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Guy that was, you know, very popular.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Former player, you know all that other stuff, and guess what,
by about six games into his time, they figured out,
this guy has no idea what he's doing. He's weighing
over his head, and guess what, We're firing him and
we're gonna hire somebody who's.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Confident and the bottom line is, if he had been
a Steelers coach, he had probably been.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Year five before they decided they were gonna get rid
of him. And I think that's one of the things
that Steelers have to start to try and think about
and do is be pulled and don't be afraid and
go make moves that you know that are gonna give
you a chance. I mean, you know they wanted The
Eagles won a Super Bowl with Doug Peterson. He fell
off the cliff. They said, the hell, get the hell
out of here. They hired this guy. You know what,
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he came in, he won a Super.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Bowl, got to another one, and you know what, in win.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This year and they're talking about cannon him next year
if he doesn't do it. The bottom line is, it's
a different world now. You know, the methods that worked
in the seventies and eighties don't work anymore. You you've
got to be able to and willing to change adapt
make you know, if you make a mistake, correct it
quickly and and and give yourself the best chance to
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be cutting edge in every aspect of you know, operations.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
We're talking to Paul's Ice.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He's brought to just by eighty four lumber Dynasty partner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Paul Ben Roethlisberger says Will Howard
should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It might not happen, depends on who the coaches, but
I'm not ruling it out.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean again, Will Howard is the ultimate guy that
you know, everybody loves because no one's ever really seen
him playing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, he played well in college, but my point is
nobody's ever really seen him play in the NFL. So
you know the thing about it is, if you go
with him, and here's the here's the argument I would make.
If you go with him and he flames out, then
you know what you're You're exactly where you want to be.
Where you get a high draft pick and go find
another quarterback and he plays well, then you've got to
beg young quarterback. So I don't hate that, But you know,
the stealers don't.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Operate that way. They're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Find another Aaron Rodgers want to be and maybe even
Aaron Rodgers himself, right, and then they're going to you know,
try and slop together nine or ten wins.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And I you see, the thing is I want Aaron
Rodgers to start, but for different reasons than Ben does.
I want them to go four and thirteen. I think
that's where salvation lies. And while it's not the sort
of thing they normally do, Art could romanticize himself into it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I really do see.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That, right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And and the thing about it like, like like we
talked about, they won't correct it even though they need to.
You know, they know that they need to correct the mistake,
but they won't. And the next year, you know, if
they don't get it to a quarterback in the draft,
next year they'll find the next Aaron Rodgers. You know,
they'll bring another guy in that they're just gonna try
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and slop together. You know, enough of uh wins that
you know that they can get to the playoffs again.
And I just I just feel like it's a recipe
for spinning your wheels for a long long time, and
that's what they've done for eight or nine years. They've
been basically spinning their wheels.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
There are still a few people out there who are
you know, the diehards that really believe that somehow they
would trade the last six years of the Steelers because
they haven't had a losing record, uh, for the last
six years of the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And I can go better than that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I've had I've had a half dozen people tweeted me
when I talk about how the Patriots you know, have
done stuff the Steeler should be embarrassed by, you know,
because they rebuilt so quickly where the Steelers just think
about now people texted, people tweeted, me, well, they beat
the Patriots this year, what about that? Well, what about
that who's still playing?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And then again, Yeah, the level of delusion amongst some
to some people is just absolutely utterly.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Incredible to me always, Paul.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So I just I just say, when you know you
can't there's certain people you just can't have these discussions with.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I know you're a big college sports guy.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh, Indiana winning the football playoff, does that give legitimate
hope to other lesser programs or will they wind up
being the exception that proves the rule?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, I mean I think Mark, what we've learned and
this is why this whole thing about how Indiana is
the little engine that could, you know, and they won
an incredible upset and I want an incredible, you know story.
I mean, it is a great story, but this isn't
twenty years ago. And what we've learned in college athletics
over the last three years. If you have the ability
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to raise a lot of money or you've got some
big boosters that are willing to.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Pay money, and you hire the right.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Coach, guess what, you can be good quickly because the
bottom line.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Is it's now free agency, you know. And I was
talking to somebody about this the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Could you imagine that pitch team dome imb in a
pit team in the seventies, like late seventies with Marino
and tou Green and Ricky Jackson are all those guys.
How much money would those guys have gotten.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
On the open market?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, pitt team would have been picked apart in
ten minutes. Then you know Dan Marino and you know
he would have went somewhere.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
And so you know, you see some.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Of these schools that have designed look, you know, and
with Indiana's Mark Cuban and a number of other guys
today Texas Tech is another example. And now all of
a sudden, you know they're better than Texas, you know,
because you hire the right coach and then you're willing
to go out into free agency.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Let's call it what it is and go and get players.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So at the end of the day, Alabama, LSU, you know,
all these teams are still getting the top recruiting classes,
they're still getting the five star guys and all that
other stuff against what I got twenty four year olds
who have played three or four years of college football.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And so, you know, Kurt know that he's done a job.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not at an all time he's diminish what he did,
but it does give hope. But the rest of the
story is, you know, for instance, people say, well, Pet's
got tradition and I can't paint that if they could
just do Listen, nobody gives a rats you know what
about tradition anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
They don't care about facilities. They don't care about the.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Ghosts and Hallard ghosts of Notre Dame. They don't care
about you know, Baron Bryant.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
None of that stuff matters.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What matters is when I come on your campus, how
much money are you going to pay me? And you
know what, if you have the right number to enough
guys and you've got you know, enough boosters and donors
that are gonna pay there you can. You can get
good in a hurry. I don't know who the worst
team in the Big East is, but you know what
if they if all of a sudden, Mark Cuban or
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somebody like that decided, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna give
you a hundred million dollars for a payroll, guess what
that team would be in the playoff next year. That's
the hope that is, you know, that's where the hope comes.
Because I think, honestly, a lot of people on this
reading this is like kurch Ignetty is some sort of
miracle worker. Like he took a typical Indiana roster and
went out and.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Ran and beat the big boys. No, he dine a
great job, but.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He also had a lot of people that paid money
and paid for his payroll so he could go and
get players and have a chance to win players he
wouldn't have had access to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Paul, great stuff. Will do it again next week.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, thanks man, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's Paul's heics.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
This Singma Brook list by eighty four Lumber Liverpool under
siege right now, still leading one nil by the way.
It made me sick that Mark Cuban is like taking
claim to Indiana, his alma mater, winning the national championship.
But he did pitch in a lot of money. It
did buy a lot of players. It illustrates what Paul
just said. But keep in mind Cuban always pashes is
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a Pittsburgh guy, does nothing for Pittsburgh. Said he was
gonna buy the Pirates, didn't said he was gonna buy
the Penguins, didn't wanted to be partners with Mario, but
using Mario and Ron Brokele's money. With him being the
Fates of the franchise and Mario being Joe Louis at
the casino door, Mark Cuban couldn't even save the oh
so give me a break. He's not a Pittsburgh guy.
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He's a guy who happens to be from Pittsburgh but
left it behind a long time ago. Doublem on the
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Speaker 4 (14:37):
Men and dream so be it baby c X at
one oh five nine. I like talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The overreaction Indiana winning it's a lot of fun, and
it's running a mock.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm sorry. I'm a big Decorsi fan.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But uh, if he thinks that Indiana winning is a
better story in a bigger upset than the US feeding
the Soviets in a miracle on ice in nineteen eighty,
I don't know what he's been smoking.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Liverpool's the crossbar.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It can never be.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Easy, So.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's not the best story ever in sports. The miracle
on ice is Oh, they're gonna tie it now. Oh
they just missed a sitter. Oh my god, up and down,
back and forth. Indiana winning is a great story. I
gotta give the NBC this. I got to give Paul
fine Bomb credit. On ESPN, he says he's still not
convinced Signetti is a great coach. What is fine Bomb
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waiting for Signetti to prove himself in the long run?
Signetti sixty four ain't gonna be no long run unless
he beats the odds and lives forever. It hasn't Oh no, wait,
it hasn't happened. Let's go to Chad and Robinson. Chad
drawn with Mark.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I want to talk about that a coaching situation. But
before that, so there's a whole since Tomlin opt to
have his contract early, people the trade for him, is
that just more of a.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Money cap thing or can we actually get something more
out of.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, he's not gonna He's not gonna coach this year.
It's a moot point, is what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Okay, so it's completely irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, I'm not a lazy talk show host. I
know a lot of people make a meal out of it.
They should trade Tomlin for this, trade Tomlin for that.
He's not going to coach this season. And everybody knows
why he's not going to coach this season. It's reasons
beyond football, but they still slip into lazy talk radio
and I do not.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Let's go to Matt. Matt, you're on with Double M.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Hey, Mark, I got a question about Mendoza. What do
you think the chances are he pulls like in La
or an Eli Manning and refuses to play for the
Raiders as they draft him and demands a trade.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
You know, it's been quite a while since somebody pulled that,
hasn't it been.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
It's not since Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh My candidate to do it has always been Arch
Manning when he comes into the draft. It wouldn't shock
me if he would refuse to play for the Steelers
if the Steelers drafted him. I just think the Mannings
are used to getting their way. They're big names, they're powerful.
Eli did it. I would bet. I would bet that
Arch will try to dictate where he goes. I really
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do think that. But as far as Mendoza, I don't know.
I haven't seen him. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He doesn't have I mean he's getting big nil at
in Indiana.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Put it this way, I would, I just don't know
that he's that type of kid. What do you think
I would as well?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I know he made it in business the Cow and
he's getting his NBA from the Kellogg School at Indiana.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh wait, wait wait, I know why he won't. I
know why he won't. He wouldn't do that to Brady.
He's going to be a mark for Brady being involved
with the ownership in Vegas in the football development, despite
it being just a gigantic conflict of interures with his
job at Fox. But Tom Brady is, you know, just
proof that If you're powerful enough, you can get away
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with whatever you want. Tom Brady absolutely should not be
allowed to be on Fox and be the Raiders owner.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Absolutely should not, But he's Tom Brady. Thank you for
the call.
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The tang might play tonight. Carlson definitely out. But what
if they both are out? How can that defense corp
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function without those two or even one, especially in terms
of puck movement.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
One keep it simple and the other thing is on
the forwards, making sure at the offensive blue line it
gets in, no turnovers, all that East West stuff. Kind
of get rid of it and go norse out. Keep
the game as simple as possible, so you're playing the
lesson your own end. And then he talked about the players,
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is about guys stepping up. You know, Graves has been
you know, up and down. He's been down most of
the year. This is a big opportunity to show not
only the Penguins but other teams in the league that
he's an NHL player. So I think it comes you know,
I think it might be a good time to see
guys kind of fill in different roles. But it's definitely
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a big hole to fill with. Maybe two of those guys, oh,
because both have been playing pretty well over the last
couple months.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, a few guys, like you said, have gotten opportunities
with with with defenseman injured.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
What's your take on Connor Clifton.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He wasn't in the line up much at season's beginning,
but he's had a couple of good games recently, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
You know what what I like about him is he
brings a little sand paper to the game, Like he
plays like a little ratty game that we haven't seen
from a defenseman in a long time. And when I
see the guys he kind of cheap shots or he
goes after even you know that hit from behind, Like
he he's a smart player, as in he goes after
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the top guys, the top two line guys, not the
third and fourth wine guys. He's very smart at that.
Watch watch next game. Like even the hit from behind,
he hit Brandon, he hit point or who do he
hit someone? Point?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah it was a penalty, but yeah he he it was.
I mean, I didn't like it palty, but at least
he the right guy, I know what you mean.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
And after that the team kind of found another gear.
Like it it went from being kind of not a
stale game, but when he did that, the game got
to another level. And I think he's been playing great again,
he's a young guy. I think he's trying to find
his way, trying to establish himself. But he does bring
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that sandpaper that I really like. And you know, he
doesn't turn the puck over. He plays pretty solid in
his own end and he finished his checks, which is
good to.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
See in that vein t K want to talk about
the fourth line Achari and Laza Ender And I'm normally
not a fan of like what I call a hero
fourth line, but.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
These guys fit the description. They're making impact, aren't.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
They, And I find them they're like the new modern
day fourth line, right they They don't really have a
tough guy on the line. You know, it's not like
there's one guy that fights the other guy. It's an energy.
It's like a third line pushed down in the fourth line.
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You know, they all compete. They're little water bugs and
they're so good at hanging onto the pock down low
like wearing teams out and the effort, that second effort
that the lazatte brings doers got more skill than I
think even Kyle Dubis might have thought getting them because
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once you have ten or eleven goals right now, as
a fourth liner, like that's I think, yeah, like we'll
take that as a fourth line guy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's huge.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And then Noel, he's just a solid Craig Adams like
player that fits in really well.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
With those guys. But I love them.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
They they're they bring an energy to the lineup that
I'd like. That you that he trusts that's another thing
that Muse trusts them, throwing them out there app against
the second line if the other two lines need to break.
He is not shy to put him out against top
lines because he knows he play. They play responsible with
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the puck and you know they're not fancy. They chip
the puck in and go to work. You know, they
got the lunch pale mentality and that's what you need
from your fourth line. And they create them right. They
create penalties, they create payoffs, and that's exactly what I
think the modern day fourth line should look like.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Stuart Skinner's going to make a second straight starting goal tonight.
Do you think he's inching toward being the number one goalie,
you know, getting like maybe sixty percent of the starts,
maybe two out of every three, because I think he's
looked slightly better than shilloffs and certainly better in the shootout,
although we don't know because shilloffs by bad fortune gets
all the shootouts.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Yeah, I think again, it takes a little bit of
time to get comfortable. I think he's getting better every game,
and yeah, I do think he's probably going to be
the number one. He went all the way to the
Stanley Cup finals last two years. That brings an area
about your confidence that I think the team feels, and
I think it's good. I'm I'm a little bit different
(25:18):
where I run my I would run my goalie until
the wheels fall off. I wouldn't go back and forth.
I like when coaches stay with the same goalie until
you lose or he doesn't play well. Because for the Penguins,
like these these games right now, these points right now
where I think they can make or break the playoffs.
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If you have a goalie that's playing well in your confident,
why would you go back to your backup or your
other goalie when he's starting to feel it Like? It's
all about rhythm, right, It's all about confiden It's all
about rhythm, And that's why I feel like the old
school guys like Flower bro Or they wanted that in
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that every night because it's almost like you stay in
that the heat of the moment, the rhythm of the games,
and you just get in that pattern when you're on
and off. I do feel it's tough for a goalie,
but they've been doing it pretty well. But I'm hoping
he has another good game tonight and he just kind
they keep throwing it in his court to play better
and better, because again, he does have the skill to
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do it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, here's the weird party, k He's not going to
play tomorrow night. He's not going to play back to
back nights on a road trip. But they play at Edmonton.
Of course, the team he got traded from. It's a
little odd that they didn't give a shot to go
back to Edmonton and play, which I'm sure he wanted,
but I can also see why he wouldn't. It takes
a little bit of emotion out of the game if
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it's hilloffs in goal, and maybe that benefits the Penguins.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
What's your take on that situation.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Well, I think that's a great explanation of why they're
not playing them, because when you have a guy that
played for you last two years, a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Emphasis on that game. But if you do.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Like you said, take about it's more of a maybe
a stale er headline going to the game. So hopefully
you catch the Edmonton oiler sleeping a little bit coming
playing against the Pittsburgh Penguins, which they probably won't because
of the Sidney Crosby effect.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, it's David against Sid. McDavid always turns it up.
I mean, yeah, David flies all the time, but against
the Penguin and Sid, it's just another dimension.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, And like you can't blame him, right, Like no,
like McDavid zaid, like he grew up with the poster
on his wall of Sidney Crosby. And then when you
play against your you know, your boyhood idol, like you
want to show him how good you are too, And
that's why I think he leveled, Like you know, that's
why he plays so good. And then we think of
(27:54):
Ovechkin and Sid. How many great games have we seen
those two play? Just because every one of those guys
thinks and wants to be the best. And McDavid's no different.
He's going to get the guy that's kind of ran
the realm for twenty years and he's this new guy.
Well you know, he's a new guy. New superstar on
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the block, like he wants to show Sid that it's okay,
that he's the next guy that can kind of take over.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's funny though, because mcdavi has been around obviously for
a number of years, but he never seems to take
this game against Pittsburgh and against sid for granted, I
kind of wish you'd start. We're talking todk here on
one oh five ninety x DK speaking of Sid has
anybody ever been better deflecting the puck than Sidney Crosby
That goal to diet late against Columbus, It's like watching
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Picasso paint.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, And like you know, I've personally seen grist Latang
and Sidney Crosby do it every single prize. Like people
think here and there, No, no Sid works on that
side tip. He's probably done it a million times in practice.
(29:09):
And to see it, you know, keep working. It's unreal.
And now when it works so much, now the other guys,
other defensemans are looking for sid because they know he
comes around the back kind of gets lost and he's
got that split second where he jumps in that open
space and it's it's a great move. He gets lost
(29:30):
a little bit, but the tips and all that stuff, Like,
it's not because he was born being a great tipper.
It's because of the work and that he put in,
you know, Like what makes sid so special is how
dialed in he is and how he's willing to work
on stuff that like most guys won't, you know, like
you rarely see guys in practice work on tips, never
(29:55):
see guys work on backhands like I'm talking to like
the little kids out there, Mark that just want to
shoot top shelf every time. When you think of a
guy like Sidney Crosby, and what makes him so good
is one doing stuff that other people won't do, Like
I said, tips, backhands, eating healthy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Because over the last.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Little bit, I'm like wow, Like when I look over
my career all like the unbelievable players, let's think of
McK david. What this McDavis got. I've never seen skating
and skating like his in my whole life. And then
I'm like, well, well what about sid And I'm like, well,
he doesn't have a hard shot, right, His SHOT's good
(30:37):
and it's gotten a lot better, but it's never at
the top, say ten in the league. Right his skating,
No one's better at protecting the puck, but pure speed,
he might not be the top ten. So, like, how
is he one of the best players to ever play
the game. And it's because there's no one more dialed
(30:57):
in and detailed and will and wanting to get better
every day than sid And it starts in his practice,
from going out early getting passes from the assistant coach
ripping them, or after practice grabbing a defenseman and doing
that silly tip that he's probably got one hundred and
(31:18):
fifty goals off, you know in his career. Yeah, it's
it's unreal. But Mark the stuff he like, he is
so like everything he does is right on point, from
his eating everything Mark and and I've been around Hall
(31:40):
of Fame guys and I've never seen anyone dialed in
like him. And that's why he's having the career. That's
why he's probably playing the best out of any guy
at his age I've ever seen. And it's because every day,
you know, he goes, hey, I'm eating healthy, I'm going
to bed early. His mindset that that's what makes Sidney
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Crosby one of the best players ever. And then when
you see that connection with Latang doing the side of
the net, is like, oh my god. The Pittsburgh Penguins
fans have seen this like fifty times in the career,
Like how the goalie's not going to figure out when
eighty seven's on the ice and it goes to the
point he's trying to sneak beside you to get a tempt.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So I like the fun.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I like Chinnikov so far. What's your take. I like
that he shoots a lot. A lot of players pass
up good shots these days.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
You're talking to a guy that never turned down a
pass that, yeah, never turned down a shot. I didn't,
Matt Cook. You said he's had the horse blinders on
once I went over the blue line. But it's because
I didn't want to pass the cookie. I was playing
the percentages that if I missed it better than passing
the Cook. But anyways, I love this guy. I think
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he plays very well with Milkin. He's a shooter, he's
got maybe one of the best shots on the Penguins,
and he's not shy to get it off. And he
filled a little bit of a hole on the penalty
in the shootouts.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, for sure, we found a guy that, like, you know,
we're like, oh, he actually has a really good chance
to score. He's got a great track record, he has
a great move where he goes. He uses his speed
to go fible, kind of like how Sib used to do.
But I like him. I think he plays well with Milkin.
I think he's a he's an unbelievable pick up. And
(33:29):
I talked to a guy that talked that was I
was actually in Columbus with my son this week and playing,
and we were asking some of the Columbus whole like
why didn't like why how did we get a player
like this.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
For Heinen?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And they're like it was because the old coach.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Was like and he just butted heads constantly. From what
I'm but it head and yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
He just if he turned the puck over once, he'd
sit for a period and they just butted heads and
it just wasn't a good fit. But everyone in Columbus
loved him. They thought he was a great player with
a real high ceiling. And to see him leave was
kind of like weird because they fired their coach after
and it was like, well, why do we get rid
of a first rounder when you knew you were firing
(34:13):
the coach?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So I don't know, I like him. I'm glad we.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Picked him up. I thought we win the trade, and
I think he's just gonna keep getting better with the
more icy gets.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
He always thinks the Penguins at some point, you know,
maybe in the offseason going to make a move for
Jason Roberts and the Dallas winger. Whether it's no to
sign up to an offer sheet in the offseason as
a restricted free agent or trade for him. And it's
logical TK because Dallas can't afford to re up him
after having signed Ranton In and Heiskinnen and Attinger, you
know the names, but the Penguins could.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
How good is he? I mean, that's a guy.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If you get him a twenty six, that's a star
in his prime, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
And I think that's part of Kyle Duwis's grand scheme,
finding guys like that. That's why he's building up this
caps because when guys like that come up, he's one
of the front runners because he's got money to spend
on guys like that, and he's part of the next
generation of talent. Right he's twenty six, he's an All Star,
(35:15):
he's a great player. He's a guy that can take
the range and put up big points when Sid and
Gino aren't there. I think that would be a huge
move in a great move for the Penguins moving forward
to get a guy like that, because I like the kid.
I think he's a great player. I think he gets
lost a little bit Dallas because they don't get much
(35:37):
publicity there. But that would be a big move, and
again he would be part of that next generation of
stars for the Pittsburgh Penguins that we're looking for. Again,
he's a highlight, real guy. And you got to give
credit to Kyle Dubas because three or four years, you know,
two years ago, he started, you know, getting rid of
(35:59):
some of that, you know, the guys that have had
a lot of eating up a lot of cap space.
You know, the you know, the jar E's, the guys
like that. So when things like this come up, he
can have that big lure to catch the big fish.
So I think I hope it comes true, you know,
hopefully maybe at the deadline if they can't come to
(36:20):
an agreement.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Finally, TK I don't want to jinx it and I'm
not assuming anything, and I know what the standings look like.
But the Penguins kind of look more and more like
a playoff team, don't they.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, it's they play a it's crazy that we're saying, Like,
I feel like they play a pretty structured game like
they've they've they've they've made some big differences in their
defensive game, from blocking shots to get in puck lanes,
to learn like to having a fourth line, to wearing
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teams down, to finding a goalie, finding two goalies that
aren't letting first shot, first goal in to kind of
sink them right off the bat like. And then you
think of some of their additions, some of the depth
editions that have worked out very well. The Bras, oh
the Mantha, you know, like those guys are doers, the
(37:17):
guys that are a little piece.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Of the puzzle.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
You know, they are they gonna eat up all these myths, No,
but they are going to help pull the rope. So
when you see that, when you have a team that
plays all four lines that are all structured, that are
all doing the same thing, it's it's great to see.
And that's what you need from a team that wants
to play in the playoffs. And the only thing sometimes
(37:42):
I see is when you get Latang Carlson all these
guys back. Once they get on a roll, sometimes they
almost get overconfident and they start they start getting into
their old happens where they have to lose word a
couple of games and they're like, no, no, we're not
this high end ski team. We need to play a
structure game to keep winning games. And that's what's happening
(38:05):
right now. Again, they lose a couple, they figure out, Okay,
we're not that team like we were last year. Let's
get back to what the Pittsburgh Penguins need to do
to win hockey. And that's what they're doing. And you know,
it's a fun team to watch right now.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
TK, great stuff. Will do it again soon. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
All right, thanks Mark, have a good day.
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Yeah, what's up?
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Hey? Who's the better second baseman?
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Fucking dud a, Mickey Moore and Ginney?
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Well, Bucky. That was a shortstop at nice try. Let's
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Speaker 2 (41:57):
Hey, Mark, I don't know what your primary years at
cover in high school works were, but as you ever
covered Danny Marino.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
The first game I ever covered and got paid to
write a story about was for a paper called the
North Hills Free Press. It was Central, it was Central
Catholic at North Allegheny, and uh Central Catholic won at
the very end when Dan completed a whole bunch of
passes in a row to a guy named Joe Calarcia.
(42:23):
He cut the touchdown pass anyway for Central and I
later went to Ducane with Joe and he.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Played for the Iron Duke's football team.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So yeah, my first game ever, I did indeed cover
Danny Marino.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
You remember Nicky, He was a great running Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
In fact, that showed who was the coach down Rick
rick Ertelai Richer. He would give the ball to Maciosi
more than he would have Marino throw it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's how high school coaches operated.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Then.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
They preferred the run.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
But nick was a real good running back, and like
you said, went on to play at Clarion.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Hey, I'm just curious this current Penguins team, if healthy,
can they win a playoff series?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
If so, who could they be?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm beginning to think they look like a playoff team
like you just heard me talk about with Tyler Kennedy.
I think they could be the Islanders in the playoff series.
I think they could be the Washington in a playoff series.
But I have no idea who's going to make the
playoffs if the Penguins are too so.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
It becomes more and more I won't say probable.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm not even trud to say possible, but I'm working
on it, so are they.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Let's go to Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill. You're on as
Mark anything, Mark.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Can you think of a more tragic situation in wrestling
than the story of the Von Eick Hamily.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
There are a bunch of very tragic situations.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
A lot of people that were friends of mine, Die Young, Brian,
Brian Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, certainly the tragedy of Chris Wlaw
from top to bottom. Yeah, the Von Erics in terms
of a movie which they made it into with Zach
Effrin in wrestling Tights, the whole movie that was awesome.
But yeah, it was a good movie, and it's just
it's a depressing story. But I will say Kevin the
(44:15):
Loane's surviving Von Eric brother, I give Kevin a lot
of credit because he's done his best to make it
uplifting whenever he's given the chance.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
The story of Kevin really kind of is a fantastic
ending to an otherwise just horrific story. I didn't want
to ask, have you ever met Carrie?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I met Carrie a number of times.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
When he was between like big time promotions, whether it
was World Class and then WBF. He worked for a
company in Philadelphia called the Tri State Wrestling Alliance, like
an indie thing, but it later morphed into ECW, but
that was the beginning. The seeds were sewn for ECW
with the Tri Storate Wrestling Alliance. And I met Carrie
a number of times there, two or three, and he
(44:58):
was a good guy. H you know, he had his problems,
and you know, he was the kind of guy. The
first time I met him, he introduced himself to me.
Three times. He kept forgetting that he introduced himself to me,
and that wasn't well, that was obviously drug induced.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Let's be blunted. Let's go another talkback.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
A Bella Danger or Alana Rhodes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I don't even know who Lona Rhodes is. I'm aged
out of the porn SEAMROV, but I have checked out
A Bella Danger, so I'm going to give her the nod.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Go to a talkback.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Hey, market's John in the car. I was just curious
that with the dual goaltending situation in Pittsburgh, Skinner to me,
clearly is the favorite to be the starter. How long
do you think they'll be doing this? Back and forth
before they named Skinner the starter before the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Uh, they got to make the playoffs first, Brov, It's
it's January.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I think Skinner's the better goalie. I don't think it's
as clear as you appear to.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I think shil Loss has played some decent games, but
he's horrible in the shootout and he's seems to let
up a bad goal. Not every game, but most games.
So how long is it going to be? I don't
think Dan Muse will ever name a number one goalie.
I think his actions will speak louder. And Skinner's making
a second straight start tonight, but I think that's just
too like t K and I talked about, have him
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not started Edmonton and to try to turn that game
as vanilla as possible as opposed to the guy who
got Edmonton to the last two finals and lost. You know,
you stick him in the net and suddenly I know
it's a grudge match, But now it's just a vanilla game.
Although it's always going to be McDavid against sid let's
go to one more talkback.
Speaker 12 (46:36):
Mark Ben Roethlisberger said on his podcast that NFL teams
should build their teams first before drafting a quarterback. Do
you think this is something the Steelers and other NFL
teams should consider doing going forward.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't think Ben's wrong.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I think it might be the easiest thing to do
to build your team and then PLoP the quarterback in
when it's built. But I don't know how you can
perfectly time that and work on it and think it's
going to succeed every time. Plus which what if you
draft the wrong quarterback like the Steelers did. This is
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Speaker 5 (47:17):
The X
They had a lot to talk about today in Liverpool
leading at the half. It's a great day so far.
Joining me now from the post because that's always a
pleasure to talk to columnist Paul Zeiss. Paul, let's stick
with the basics. Who would you pick right now to
be the new Steeler coach and why would you pick him?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'll tell you I don't know enough about these guys
from the Rams, but it triggers me to have a
guy like sure, if he's able to bring the other
the past game coordinator, you know, it seems like you
gets the best of both worlds. Sean McVeigh obviously is
a really brilliant coach. I think, you know, the way
he runs his team and the way that he runs
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his offenses, it's exactly what the Steelers need. It seems
like Chris shul is a really good young defensive mind.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
So that combination is.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Something that I really probably am most interesting because I
think I think they would, you know, bring and cover
all of the bases that need to be covered, you know,
I know they interviewed Mike McCarthy today. I mean, you
might as well stay with Mike Tomlin if you're gonna
do that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
I'm not sure really, you know, if that makes a
ton of sense, you know, but well, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
If you have McCarthy, you're just gonna run it back.
You're gonna try to win right this second, gonna recycle
an old quarterback.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
They might make Shuwa or whoever do that anyway, But
with McCarthy, I would say the intense obvious, wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You, Yeah, I mean, and it seems it would seem
like you're trying to hang on to Aaron Rodgers. It
would seem like you're trying to, you know, do another
year where you can slop together.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Nine or ten wins and.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Hope that, you know, you get to the playoffs and
all that stuff. But to me, it feels like the
steerers generally, when they want to go in a different directions,
sort of go in a different direction. They like to
hire young that to hire up and comers. So to me,
McCarthy just doesn't make sense. And I always say this,
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and I used to say this, you know when Pitt
used to go through coaches every other year and everyone
screamed and yelled that they need a pit guy. You know,
if you took the fact that Mike McCarthy is from Pittsburgh.
Out of the equation, would he even be on the list,
would even be somebody you would interview, would even be
somebody who would bring in and talk to. No, No,
he's nothing against damn, but he doesn't fit the profile
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of what you're looking for.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, let me tell you what I think.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
For sure, everything you said is right, but let me
go one notch further. If he wasn't from Pittsburgh, the
talk show callers and the talk show host would be
saying what a terrible idea it is. For the reasons
it is a terrible idea.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Right, I mean, it doesn't fit the profile of what
they're looking for, It doesn't fit the profile of what
they generally do when they hire people, and it doesn't
really move the franchise in a different directions.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
It's more of the same basically.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know, this guy has a formula where he can,
you know, figure out how to win enough games to
get to the playoffs, and you hope that you hit
lightning in a bottle with Aaron Rodgers. Well, what we
saw this year is there probably isn't any more.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Lightning in that bottle.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So move forward, you know, and I've heard people say, well,
he's a quarterback, whisper Well, that's great, but they don't
have a quarterback, so what's the point that's true.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
There's nobody to whisper to.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
And I keep getting pissed, Well not really because honestly, Paul,
but you know, I legitimately don't care. But they always
think about now. It's always about now. And look at
the Patriots who totally rebuilt and got a franchise quarterback
six years after Brady left here in the AFC Championship
game because they reap the value of going four and thirteen.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
At some point you got to do that.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And I know there's a lot of examples, and Mike
the course he did cite them to prove otherwise.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But I'll take my chances with four and thirteen.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Again, Like I get a kick out of all these
guys who find a way to port whatever the narrative
is they have and they want you.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Don't say most of them, Paul. Whatever narrative the Steelers
put forth, here's.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The narrative that I would tell you.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
The final four teams in the in the in the
in the that are still standing in the in the
NFL and the playoffs. You know, in the playoffs, we've
got two first overall picks, a third overall pick, and
eleventh and eleven overall pick.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I think it's one. It's a one, two threes and
a twelve with Nix hurt. But yeah, it's the proofs
in the pudding for sure.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, Nix is the twelve. I think May was what
a three? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And and Stafford and uh, who's the other one?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Stafford was a one overall? And who was the other one?
I forget didn't even think who's Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, Pa was a three? Yeah, so one, three, three,
and twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, exactly what I'm trying to make.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Ause you've got guys, you know, three guys that were
four guys that were all drafted in the top twelve picks.
You go back, you start looking at guys like Mahomes,
you know what I mean, and everybody will point the
Brock party. You know, Who's what I would call the exception,
as was Tom Brady. For the most part, guys that
are drafted high are the best guys in the draft
for a reason.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
So to me, I feel like, you know this idea.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
That you can somehow magically, you know, figure out a different.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Formula, it just doesn't happen, you know. Yeah, do you
have to hit on the right people, Yeah, you do,
just like you have to hire the right coach.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But that is a different discussion than the fact that
if you are drafting at the top of the draft
a couple of years, it gives you a much better
chance of actually having success.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Well, Paul, when you look at what the Patriots did too,
they drafted mac Jones I think it was fifteenth, and
it didn't work, so they drafted Drake me a couple
of years later. You keep throwing it at the wall
until something sticks, whereas the Steelers drafted Picket and then
just recycled old guys when that didn't work.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, I think that's the other lesson you can learn
from the Patriots, Mark is the and the Eagles too.
They hired Jared Mayo to be the coach.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Guy that was, you know, very popular.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Former player, you know all that other stuff, and guess what,
by about six games into his time, they figured out,
this guy has no idea what he's doing. He's weighing
over his head, and guess what, We're firing him and
we're gonna hire somebody who's.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Confident and the bottom line is, if he had been
a Steelers coach, he had probably been.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Year five before they decided they were gonna get rid
of him. And I think that's one of the things
that Steelers have to start to try and think about
and do is be pulled and don't be afraid and
go make moves that you know that are gonna give
you a chance. I mean, you know they wanted The
Eagles won a Super Bowl with Doug Peterson. He fell
off the cliff. They said, the hell, get the hell
out of here. They hired this guy. You know what,
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he came in, he won a Super.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Bowl, got to another one, and you know what, in win.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
This year and they're talking about cannon him next year
if he doesn't do it. The bottom line is, it's
a different world now. You know, the methods that worked
in the seventies and eighties don't work anymore. You you've
got to be able to and willing to change adapt
make you know, if you make a mistake, correct it
quickly and and and give yourself the best chance to
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be cutting edge in every aspect of you know, operations.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
We're talking to Paul's Ice.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He's brought to just by eighty four lumber Dynasty partner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Paul Ben Roethlisberger says Will Howard
should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It might not happen, depends on who the coaches, but
I'm not ruling it out.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I mean again, Will Howard is the ultimate guy that
you know, everybody loves because no one's ever really seen
him playing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, he played well in college, but my point is
nobody's ever really seen him play in the NFL. So
you know the thing about it is, if you go
with him, and here's the here's the argument I would make.
If you go with him and he flames out, then
you know what you're You're exactly where you want to be.
Where you get a high draft pick and go find
another quarterback and he plays well, then you've got to
beg young quarterback. So I don't hate that, But you know,
the stealers don't.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Operate that way. They're gonna go.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Find another Aaron Rodgers want to be and maybe even
Aaron Rodgers himself, right, and then they're going to you know,
try and slop together nine or ten wins.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, No, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
And I you see, the thing is I want Aaron
Rodgers to start, but for different reasons than Ben does.
I want them to go four and thirteen. I think
that's where salvation lies. And while it's not the sort
of thing they normally do, Art could romanticize himself into it.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I really do see.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That, right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And and the thing about it like, like like we
talked about, they won't correct it even though they need to.
You know, they know that they need to correct the mistake,
but they won't. And the next year, you know, if
they don't get it to a quarterback in the draft,
next year they'll find the next Aaron Rodgers. You know,
they'll bring another guy in that they're just gonna try
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and slop together. You know, enough of uh wins that
you know that they can get to the playoffs again.
And I just I just feel like it's a recipe
for spinning your wheels for a long long time, and
that's what they've done for eight or nine years. They've
been basically spinning their wheels.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
You know, it's funny.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
There are still a few people out there who are
you know, the diehards that really believe that somehow they
would trade the last six years of the Steelers because
they haven't had a losing record, uh, for the last
six years of the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
And I can go better than that, Paul.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I've had I've had a half dozen people tweeted me
when I talk about how the Patriots you know, have
done stuff the Steeler should be embarrassed by, you know,
because they rebuilt so quickly where the Steelers just think
about now people texted, people tweeted, me, well, they beat
the Patriots this year, what about that? Well, what about
that who's still playing?
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And then again, Yeah, the level of delusion amongst some
to some people is just absolutely utterly.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Incredible to me always, Paul.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So I just I just say, when you know you
can't there's certain people you just can't have these discussions with.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Paul.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I know you're a big college sports guy.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Uh, Indiana winning the football playoff, does that give legitimate
hope to other lesser programs or will they wind up
being the exception that proves the rule?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
No, I mean I think Mark, what we've learned and
this is why this whole thing about how Indiana is
the little engine that could, you know, and they won
an incredible upset and I want an incredible, you know story.
I mean, it is a great story, but this isn't
twenty years ago. And what we've learned in college athletics
over the last three years. If you have the ability
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to raise a lot of money or you've got some
big boosters that are willing to.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Pay money, and you hire the right.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Coach, guess what, you can be good quickly because the
bottom line.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Is it's now free agency, you know. And I was
talking to somebody about this the other day.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Could you imagine that pitch team dome imb in a
pit team in the seventies, like late seventies with Marino
and tou Green and Ricky Jackson are all those guys.
How much money would those guys have gotten.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
On the open market?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know, pitt team would have been picked apart in
ten minutes. Then you know Dan Marino and you know
he would have went somewhere.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
And so you know, you see some.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Of these schools that have designed look, you know, and
with Indiana's Mark Cuban and a number of other guys
today Texas Tech is another example. And now all of
a sudden, you know they're better than Texas, you know,
because you hire the right coach and then you're willing
to go out into free agency.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Let's call it what it is and go and get players.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
So at the end of the day, Alabama, LSU, you know,
all these teams are still getting the top recruiting classes,
they're still getting the five star guys and all that
other stuff against what I got twenty four year olds
who have played three or four years of college football.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And so, you know, Kurt know that he's done a job.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I'm not at an all time he's diminish what he did,
but it does give hope. But the rest of the
story is, you know, for instance, people say, well, Pet's
got tradition and I can't paint that if they could
just do Listen, nobody gives a rats you know what
about tradition anymore.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
They don't care about facilities. They don't care about the.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Ghosts and Hallard ghosts of Notre Dame. They don't care
about you know, Baron Bryant.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
None of that stuff matters.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
What matters is when I come on your campus, how
much money are you going to pay me? And you
know what, if you have the right number to enough
guys and you've got you know, enough boosters and donors
that are gonna pay there you can. You can get
good in a hurry. I don't know who the worst
team in the Big East is, but you know what
if they if all of a sudden, Mark Cuban or
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somebody like that decided, Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna give
you a hundred million dollars for a payroll, guess what
that team would be in the playoff next year. That's
the hope that is, you know, that's where the hope comes.
Because I think, honestly, a lot of people on this
reading this is like kurch Ignetty is some sort of
miracle worker. Like he took a typical Indiana roster and
went out and.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Ran and beat the big boys. No, he dine a
great job, but.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He also had a lot of people that paid money
and paid for his payroll so he could go and
get players and have a chance to win players he
wouldn't have had access to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Paul, great stuff. Will do it again next week.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
All right, thanks man, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That's Paul's heics.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
This Singma Brook list by eighty four Lumber Liverpool under
siege right now, still leading one nil by the way.
It made me sick that Mark Cuban is like taking
claim to Indiana, his alma mater, winning the national championship.
But he did pitch in a lot of money. It
did buy a lot of players. It illustrates what Paul
just said. But keep in mind Cuban always pashes is
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a Pittsburgh guy, does nothing for Pittsburgh. Said he was
gonna buy the Pirates, didn't said he was gonna buy
the Penguins, didn't wanted to be partners with Mario, but
using Mario and Ron Brokele's money. With him being the
Fates of the franchise and Mario being Joe Louis at
the casino door, Mark Cuban couldn't even save the oh
so give me a break. He's not a Pittsburgh guy.
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He's a guy who happens to be from Pittsburgh but
left it behind a long time ago. Doublem on the
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Speaker 4 (14:37):
Men and dream so be it baby c X at
one oh five nine. I like talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The overreaction Indiana winning it's a lot of fun, and
it's running a mock.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'm sorry. I'm a big Decorsi fan.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But uh, if he thinks that Indiana winning is a
better story in a bigger upset than the US feeding
the Soviets in a miracle on ice in nineteen eighty,
I don't know what he's been smoking.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Liverpool's the crossbar.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
It can never be.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Easy, So.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It's not the best story ever in sports. The miracle
on ice is Oh, they're gonna tie it now. Oh
they just missed a sitter. Oh my god, up and down,
back and forth. Indiana winning is a great story. I
gotta give the NBC this. I got to give Paul
fine Bomb credit. On ESPN, he says he's still not
convinced Signetti is a great coach. What is fine Bomb
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waiting for Signetti to prove himself in the long run?
Signetti sixty four ain't gonna be no long run unless
he beats the odds and lives forever. It hasn't Oh no, wait,
it hasn't happened. Let's go to Chad and Robinson. Chad
drawn with Mark.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Mark.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
I want to talk about that a coaching situation. But
before that, so there's a whole since Tomlin opt to
have his contract early, people the trade for him, is
that just more of a.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Money cap thing or can we actually get something more
out of.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, he's not gonna He's not gonna coach this year.
It's a moot point, is what it is.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Okay, so it's completely irrelevant.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
I think it is.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I mean, I'm not a lazy talk show host. I
know a lot of people make a meal out of it.
They should trade Tomlin for this, trade Tomlin for that.
He's not going to coach this season. And everybody knows
why he's not going to coach this season. It's reasons
beyond football, but they still slip into lazy talk radio
and I do not.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Let's go to Matt. Matt, you're on with Double M.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Hey, Mark, I got a question about Mendoza. What do
you think the chances are he pulls like in La
or an Eli Manning and refuses to play for the
Raiders as they draft him and demands a trade.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
You know, it's been quite a while since somebody pulled that,
hasn't it been.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
It's not since Eli Manning.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh My candidate to do it has always been Arch
Manning when he comes into the draft. It wouldn't shock
me if he would refuse to play for the Steelers
if the Steelers drafted him. I just think the Mannings
are used to getting their way. They're big names, they're powerful.
Eli did it. I would bet. I would bet that
Arch will try to dictate where he goes. I really
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do think that. But as far as Mendoza, I don't know.
I haven't seen him. I mean I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He doesn't have I mean he's getting big nil at
in Indiana.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Put it this way, I would, I just don't know
that he's that type of kid. What do you think
I would as well?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
I know he made it in business the Cow and
he's getting his NBA from the Kellogg School at Indiana.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Oh wait, wait wait, I know why he won't. I
know why he won't. He wouldn't do that to Brady.
He's going to be a mark for Brady being involved
with the ownership in Vegas in the football development, despite
it being just a gigantic conflict of interures with his
job at Fox. But Tom Brady is, you know, just
proof that If you're powerful enough, you can get away
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with whatever you want. Tom Brady absolutely should not be
allowed to be on Fox and be the Raiders owner.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Absolutely should not, But he's Tom Brady. Thank you for
the call.
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The tang might play tonight. Carlson definitely out. But what
if they both are out? How can that defense corp
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function without those two or even one, especially in terms
of puck movement.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
One keep it simple and the other thing is on
the forwards, making sure at the offensive blue line it
gets in, no turnovers, all that East West stuff. Kind
of get rid of it and go norse out. Keep
the game as simple as possible, so you're playing the
lesson your own end. And then he talked about the players,
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is about guys stepping up. You know, Graves has been
you know, up and down. He's been down most of
the year. This is a big opportunity to show not
only the Penguins but other teams in the league that
he's an NHL player. So I think it comes you know,
I think it might be a good time to see
guys kind of fill in different roles. But it's definitely
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a big hole to fill with. Maybe two of those guys, oh,
because both have been playing pretty well over the last
couple months.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, a few guys, like you said, have gotten opportunities
with with with defenseman injured.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
What's your take on Connor Clifton.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He wasn't in the line up much at season's beginning,
but he's had a couple of good games recently, hasn't he.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
You know what what I like about him is he
brings a little sand paper to the game, Like he
plays like a little ratty game that we haven't seen
from a defenseman in a long time. And when I
see the guys he kind of cheap shots or he
goes after even you know that hit from behind, Like
he he's a smart player, as in he goes after
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the top guys, the top two line guys, not the
third and fourth wine guys. He's very smart at that.
Watch watch next game. Like even the hit from behind,
he hit Brandon, he hit point or who do he
hit someone? Point?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah it was a penalty, but yeah he he it was.
I mean, I didn't like it palty, but at least
he the right guy, I know what you mean.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
And after that the team kind of found another gear.
Like it it went from being kind of not a
stale game, but when he did that, the game got
to another level. And I think he's been playing great again,
he's a young guy. I think he's trying to find
his way, trying to establish himself. But he does bring
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that sandpaper that I really like. And you know, he
doesn't turn the puck over. He plays pretty solid in
his own end and he finished his checks, which is
good to.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
See in that vein t K want to talk about
the fourth line Achari and Laza Ender And I'm normally
not a fan of like what I call a hero
fourth line, but.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
These guys fit the description. They're making impact, aren't.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
They, And I find them they're like the new modern
day fourth line, right they They don't really have a
tough guy on the line. You know, it's not like
there's one guy that fights the other guy. It's an energy.
It's like a third line pushed down in the fourth line.
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You know, they all compete. They're little water bugs and
they're so good at hanging onto the pock down low
like wearing teams out and the effort, that second effort
that the lazatte brings doers got more skill than I
think even Kyle Dubis might have thought getting them because
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once you have ten or eleven goals right now, as
a fourth liner, like that's I think, yeah, like we'll
take that as a fourth line guy.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
That's huge.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
And then Noel, he's just a solid Craig Adams like
player that fits in really well.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
With those guys. But I love them.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
They they're they bring an energy to the lineup that
I'd like. That you that he trusts that's another thing
that Muse trusts them, throwing them out there app against
the second line if the other two lines need to break.
He is not shy to put him out against top
lines because he knows he play. They play responsible with
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the puck and you know they're not fancy. They chip
the puck in and go to work. You know, they
got the lunch pale mentality and that's what you need
from your fourth line. And they create them right. They
create penalties, they create payoffs, and that's exactly what I
think the modern day fourth line should look like.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Stuart Skinner's going to make a second straight starting goal tonight.
Do you think he's inching toward being the number one goalie,
you know, getting like maybe sixty percent of the starts,
maybe two out of every three, because I think he's
looked slightly better than shilloffs and certainly better in the shootout,
although we don't know because shilloffs by bad fortune gets
all the shootouts.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
Yeah, I think again, it takes a little bit of
time to get comfortable. I think he's getting better every game,
and yeah, I do think he's probably going to be
the number one. He went all the way to the
Stanley Cup finals last two years. That brings an area
about your confidence that I think the team feels, and
I think it's good. I'm I'm a little bit different
(25:18):
where I run my I would run my goalie until
the wheels fall off. I wouldn't go back and forth.
I like when coaches stay with the same goalie until
you lose or he doesn't play well. Because for the Penguins,
like these these games right now, these points right now
where I think they can make or break the playoffs.
(25:41):
If you have a goalie that's playing well in your confident,
why would you go back to your backup or your
other goalie when he's starting to feel it Like? It's
all about rhythm, right, It's all about confiden It's all
about rhythm, And that's why I feel like the old
school guys like Flower bro Or they wanted that in
(26:01):
that every night because it's almost like you stay in
that the heat of the moment, the rhythm of the games,
and you just get in that pattern when you're on
and off. I do feel it's tough for a goalie,
but they've been doing it pretty well. But I'm hoping
he has another good game tonight and he just kind
they keep throwing it in his court to play better
and better, because again, he does have the skill to
(26:23):
do it.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Well, here's the weird party, k He's not going to
play tomorrow night. He's not going to play back to
back nights on a road trip. But they play at Edmonton.
Of course, the team he got traded from. It's a
little odd that they didn't give a shot to go
back to Edmonton and play, which I'm sure he wanted,
but I can also see why he wouldn't. It takes
a little bit of emotion out of the game if
(26:44):
it's hilloffs in goal, and maybe that benefits the Penguins.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
What's your take on that situation.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Well, I think that's a great explanation of why they're
not playing them, because when you have a guy that
played for you last two years, a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Emphasis on that game. But if you do.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Like you said, take about it's more of a maybe
a stale er headline going to the game. So hopefully
you catch the Edmonton oiler sleeping a little bit coming
playing against the Pittsburgh Penguins, which they probably won't because
of the Sidney Crosby effect.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, it's David against Sid. McDavid always turns it up.
I mean, yeah, David flies all the time, but against
the Penguin and Sid, it's just another dimension.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Yeah, And like you can't blame him, right, Like no,
like McDavid zaid, like he grew up with the poster
on his wall of Sidney Crosby. And then when you
play against your you know, your boyhood idol, like you
want to show him how good you are too, And
that's why I think he leveled, Like you know, that's
why he plays so good. And then we think of
(27:54):
Ovechkin and Sid. How many great games have we seen
those two play? Just because every one of those guys
thinks and wants to be the best. And McDavid's no different.
He's going to get the guy that's kind of ran
the realm for twenty years and he's this new guy.
Well you know, he's a new guy. New superstar on
(28:17):
the block, like he wants to show Sid that it's okay,
that he's the next guy that can kind of take over.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Well.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
It's funny though, because mcdavi has been around obviously for
a number of years, but he never seems to take
this game against Pittsburgh and against sid for granted, I
kind of wish you'd start. We're talking todk here on
one oh five ninety x DK speaking of Sid has
anybody ever been better deflecting the puck than Sidney Crosby
That goal to diet late against Columbus, It's like watching
(28:45):
Picasso paint.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, And like you know, I've personally seen grist Latang
and Sidney Crosby do it every single prize. Like people
think here and there, No, no Sid works on that
side tip. He's probably done it a million times in practice.
(29:09):
And to see it, you know, keep working. It's unreal.
And now when it works so much, now the other guys,
other defensemans are looking for sid because they know he
comes around the back kind of gets lost and he's
got that split second where he jumps in that open
space and it's it's a great move. He gets lost
(29:30):
a little bit, but the tips and all that stuff, Like,
it's not because he was born being a great tipper.
It's because of the work and that he put in,
you know, Like what makes sid so special is how
dialed in he is and how he's willing to work
on stuff that like most guys won't, you know, like
you rarely see guys in practice work on tips, never
(29:55):
see guys work on backhands like I'm talking to like
the little kids out there, Mark that just want to
shoot top shelf every time. When you think of a
guy like Sidney Crosby, and what makes him so good
is one doing stuff that other people won't do, Like
I said, tips, backhands, eating healthy.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Because over the last.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Little bit, I'm like wow, Like when I look over
my career all like the unbelievable players, let's think of
McK david. What this McDavis got. I've never seen skating
and skating like his in my whole life. And then
I'm like, well, well what about sid And I'm like, well,
he doesn't have a hard shot, right, His SHOT's good
(30:37):
and it's gotten a lot better, but it's never at
the top, say ten in the league. Right his skating,
No one's better at protecting the puck, but pure speed,
he might not be the top ten. So, like, how
is he one of the best players to ever play
the game. And it's because there's no one more dialed
(30:57):
in and detailed and will and wanting to get better
every day than sid And it starts in his practice,
from going out early getting passes from the assistant coach
ripping them, or after practice grabbing a defenseman and doing
that silly tip that he's probably got one hundred and
(31:18):
fifty goals off, you know in his career. Yeah, it's
it's unreal. But Mark the stuff he like, he is
so like everything he does is right on point, from
his eating everything Mark and and I've been around Hall
(31:40):
of Fame guys and I've never seen anyone dialed in
like him. And that's why he's having the career. That's
why he's probably playing the best out of any guy
at his age I've ever seen. And it's because every day,
you know, he goes, hey, I'm eating healthy, I'm going
to bed early. His mindset that that's what makes Sidney
(32:01):
Crosby one of the best players ever. And then when
you see that connection with Latang doing the side of
the net, is like, oh my god. The Pittsburgh Penguins
fans have seen this like fifty times in the career,
Like how the goalie's not going to figure out when
eighty seven's on the ice and it goes to the
point he's trying to sneak beside you to get a tempt.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
So I like the fun.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I like Chinnikov so far. What's your take. I like
that he shoots a lot. A lot of players pass
up good shots these days.
Speaker 5 (32:33):
You're talking to a guy that never turned down a
pass that, yeah, never turned down a shot. I didn't,
Matt Cook. You said he's had the horse blinders on
once I went over the blue line. But it's because
I didn't want to pass the cookie. I was playing
the percentages that if I missed it better than passing
the Cook. But anyways, I love this guy. I think
(32:54):
he plays very well with Milkin. He's a shooter, he's
got maybe one of the best shots on the Penguins,
and he's not shy to get it off. And he
filled a little bit of a hole on the penalty
in the shootouts.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Right.
Speaker 5 (33:08):
Yeah, for sure, we found a guy that, like, you know,
we're like, oh, he actually has a really good chance
to score. He's got a great track record, he has
a great move where he goes. He uses his speed
to go fible, kind of like how Sib used to do.
But I like him. I think he plays well with Milkin.
I think he's a he's an unbelievable pick up. And
(33:29):
I talked to a guy that talked that was I
was actually in Columbus with my son this week and playing,
and we were asking some of the Columbus whole like
why didn't like why how did we get a player
like this.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
For Heinen?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And they're like it was because the old coach.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Was like and he just butted heads constantly. From what
I'm but it head and yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
He just if he turned the puck over once, he'd
sit for a period and they just butted heads and
it just wasn't a good fit. But everyone in Columbus
loved him. They thought he was a great player with
a real high ceiling. And to see him leave was
kind of like weird because they fired their coach after
and it was like, well, why do we get rid
of a first rounder when you knew you were firing
(34:13):
the coach?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So I don't know, I like him. I'm glad we.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Picked him up. I thought we win the trade, and
I think he's just gonna keep getting better with the
more icy gets.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
He always thinks the Penguins at some point, you know,
maybe in the offseason going to make a move for
Jason Roberts and the Dallas winger. Whether it's no to
sign up to an offer sheet in the offseason as
a restricted free agent or trade for him. And it's
logical TK because Dallas can't afford to re up him
after having signed Ranton In and Heiskinnen and Attinger, you
know the names, but the Penguins could.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
How good is he? I mean, that's a guy.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Boy.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If you get him a twenty six, that's a star
in his prime, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
And I think that's part of Kyle Duwis's grand scheme,
finding guys like that. That's why he's building up this
caps because when guys like that come up, he's one
of the front runners because he's got money to spend
on guys like that, and he's part of the next
generation of talent. Right he's twenty six, he's an All Star,
(35:15):
he's a great player. He's a guy that can take
the range and put up big points when Sid and
Gino aren't there. I think that would be a huge
move in a great move for the Penguins moving forward
to get a guy like that, because I like the kid.
I think he's a great player. I think he gets
lost a little bit Dallas because they don't get much
(35:37):
publicity there. But that would be a big move, and
again he would be part of that next generation of
stars for the Pittsburgh Penguins that we're looking for. Again,
he's a highlight, real guy. And you got to give
credit to Kyle Dubas because three or four years, you know,
two years ago, he started, you know, getting rid of
(35:59):
some of that, you know, the guys that have had
a lot of eating up a lot of cap space.
You know, the you know, the jar E's, the guys
like that. So when things like this come up, he
can have that big lure to catch the big fish.
So I think I hope it comes true, you know,
hopefully maybe at the deadline if they can't come to
(36:20):
an agreement.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Finally, TK I don't want to jinx it and I'm
not assuming anything, and I know what the standings look like.
But the Penguins kind of look more and more like
a playoff team, don't they.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Yeah, it's they play a it's crazy that we're saying, Like,
I feel like they play a pretty structured game like
they've they've they've they've made some big differences in their
defensive game, from blocking shots to get in puck lanes,
to learn like to having a fourth line, to wearing
(36:54):
teams down, to finding a goalie, finding two goalies that
aren't letting first shot, first goal in to kind of
sink them right off the bat like. And then you
think of some of their additions, some of the depth
editions that have worked out very well. The Bras, oh
the Mantha, you know, like those guys are doers, the
(37:17):
guys that are a little piece.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Of the puzzle.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
You know, they are they gonna eat up all these myths, No,
but they are going to help pull the rope. So
when you see that, when you have a team that
plays all four lines that are all structured, that are
all doing the same thing, it's it's great to see.
And that's what you need from a team that wants
to play in the playoffs. And the only thing sometimes
(37:42):
I see is when you get Latang Carlson all these
guys back. Once they get on a roll, sometimes they
almost get overconfident and they start they start getting into
their old happens where they have to lose word a
couple of games and they're like, no, no, we're not
this high end ski team. We need to play a
structure game to keep winning games. And that's what's happening
(38:05):
right now. Again, they lose a couple, they figure out, Okay,
we're not that team like we were last year. Let's
get back to what the Pittsburgh Penguins need to do
to win hockey. And that's what they're doing. And you know,
it's a fun team to watch right now.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
TK, great stuff. Will do it again soon. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
All right, thanks Mark, have a good day.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
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Really they do. They do a terrific job. Bugsy Bart
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(38:46):
was talking. But he doesn't get it like the course
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Speaker 5 (41:48):
Fucking dud a, Mickey Moore and Ginney?
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Speaker 2 (41:57):
Hey, Mark, I don't know what your primary years at
cover in high school works were, but as you ever
covered Danny Marino.
Speaker 1 (42:03):
The first game I ever covered and got paid to
write a story about was for a paper called the
North Hills Free Press. It was Central, it was Central
Catholic at North Allegheny, and uh Central Catholic won at
the very end when Dan completed a whole bunch of
passes in a row to a guy named Joe Calarcia.
(42:23):
He cut the touchdown pass anyway for Central and I
later went to Ducane with Joe and he.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Played for the Iron Duke's football team.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
So yeah, my first game ever, I did indeed cover
Danny Marino.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
You remember Nicky, He was a great running Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
In fact, that showed who was the coach down Rick
rick Ertelai Richer. He would give the ball to Maciosi
more than he would have Marino throw it.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
That's how high school coaches operated.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
Then.
Speaker 4 (42:52):
They preferred the run.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
But nick was a real good running back, and like
you said, went on to play at Clarion.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Let's go to a talkback.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Hey, I'm just curious this current Penguins team, if healthy,
can they win a playoff series?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
If so, who could they be?
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm beginning to think they look like a playoff team
like you just heard me talk about with Tyler Kennedy.
I think they could be the Islanders in the playoff series.
I think they could be the Washington in a playoff series.
But I have no idea who's going to make the
playoffs if the Penguins are too so.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
It becomes more and more I won't say probable.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
I'm not even trud to say possible, but I'm working
on it, so are they.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Let's go to Buffalo Bill. Buffalo Bill. You're on as
Mark anything, Mark.
Speaker 5 (43:43):
Can you think of a more tragic situation in wrestling
than the story of the Von Eick Hamily.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
There are a bunch of very tragic situations.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
A lot of people that were friends of mine, Die Young, Brian,
Brian Pillman, Eddie Guerrero, certainly the tragedy of Chris Wlaw
from top to bottom. Yeah, the Von Erics in terms
of a movie which they made it into with Zach
Effrin in wrestling Tights, the whole movie that was awesome.
But yeah, it was a good movie, and it's just
it's a depressing story. But I will say Kevin the
(44:15):
Loane's surviving Von Eric brother, I give Kevin a lot
of credit because he's done his best to make it
uplifting whenever he's given the chance.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
The story of Kevin really kind of is a fantastic
ending to an otherwise just horrific story. I didn't want
to ask, have you ever met Carrie?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (44:33):
I met Carrie a number of times.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
When he was between like big time promotions, whether it
was World Class and then WBF. He worked for a
company in Philadelphia called the Tri State Wrestling Alliance, like
an indie thing, but it later morphed into ECW, but
that was the beginning. The seeds were sewn for ECW
with the Tri Storate Wrestling Alliance. And I met Carrie
a number of times there, two or three, and he
(44:58):
was a good guy. H you know, he had his problems,
and you know, he was the kind of guy. The
first time I met him, he introduced himself to me.
Three times. He kept forgetting that he introduced himself to me,
and that wasn't well, that was obviously drug induced.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Let's be blunted. Let's go another talkback.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
A Bella Danger or Alana Rhodes.
Speaker 1 (45:19):
I don't even know who Lona Rhodes is. I'm aged
out of the porn SEAMROV, but I have checked out
A Bella Danger, so I'm going to give her the nod.
Speaker 4 (45:27):
Go to a talkback.
Speaker 6 (45:28):
Hey, market's John in the car. I was just curious
that with the dual goaltending situation in Pittsburgh, Skinner to me,
clearly is the favorite to be the starter. How long
do you think they'll be doing this? Back and forth
before they named Skinner the starter before the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Uh, they got to make the playoffs first, Brov, It's
it's January.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
I think Skinner's the better goalie. I don't think it's
as clear as you appear to.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
I think shil Loss has played some decent games, but
he's horrible in the shootout and he's seems to let
up a bad goal. Not every game, but most games.
So how long is it going to be? I don't
think Dan Muse will ever name a number one goalie.
I think his actions will speak louder. And Skinner's making
a second straight start tonight, but I think that's just
too like t K and I talked about, have him
(46:16):
not started Edmonton and to try to turn that game
as vanilla as possible as opposed to the guy who
got Edmonton to the last two finals and lost. You know,
you stick him in the net and suddenly I know
it's a grudge match, But now it's just a vanilla game.
Although it's always going to be McDavid against sid let's
go to one more talkback.
Speaker 12 (46:36):
Mark Ben Roethlisberger said on his podcast that NFL teams
should build their teams first before drafting a quarterback. Do
you think this is something the Steelers and other NFL
teams should consider doing going forward.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
I don't think Ben's wrong.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I think it might be the easiest thing to do
to build your team and then PLoP the quarterback in
when it's built. But I don't know how you can
perfectly time that and work on it and think it's
going to succeed every time. Plus which what if you
draft the wrong quarterback like the Steelers did. This is
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