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May 12, 2026 44 mins
Mark talks to Pierre McGuire at the top of the hour, and is joined by Sean Casey to talk some Bucco Baseball. Ask Mark Anything!

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I guess right now is done at all in the
great game of hockey. Always a pleasure to talk to
the great Pierre McGuire pre before we get to the playoffs.
Kyle Dubas said today he'd love to have Geno back,
but also use the word nostalgia in reference to the
core three.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
What's your gut say, which way is that going to go?

Speaker 3 (00:21):
I think they're probably looking at bringing them back only
because they're looking internally at the roster they're evaluating with
they having the draft pick market, they're evaluating with the
having wilkes Bury. I know their team down in Wheelding's
involved in a pretty titanic playoff series with Maine. Boston's
firing team right now, So they're probably looking and evaluating

(00:42):
all these different things and probably saying, you know what,
we could afford another year of gaining knock and as
long as the price point is correct and it's not
more than one year. They were a revelation this year, Mark,
I think you would agree with me. Most people thought
at the beginning to hear the Pittsburgh Penguins were not
going to be a team that a lot of people
would respect of being a total rebuild, the wheels were

(01:02):
going to fall off, and where was Sidney Crosby going
to play? Where was there Carlson going to end up?
Where was Christopher Lezayg going to be? Well, they're all
still in Pittsburgh, including Geno Malkin.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I agreed with Dubus when he said today that Malkin
isn't blocking anybody except maybe on the power play, but
certainly not five on five pers So that begs the question,
where are the Penguins at developmentally? For example, most of
their young forwards or bottom six prospect wise, not just
in terms of right now, at least at the AHL level.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Well, they are because they had overcome some marginal the
poor drafting. They also sacrificed a lot of their draft
picks early on the state you know, relevant in the
National Hockey League. So it's not so much on Kyle
and Jason Spetche, it's on the people that were there before.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, right, And I think they did the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
I always think you should try to win now when
it's feasible.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, yeah, and that's what they did. But I think
you know, you talk about the prospects, and that's why
I'm going to tell you. They're they're doing their best
to try to develop those kids as fast as possible.
That's why I give them a lot of credit. They're
building a very strong brand and Wheeling They've got an
excellent Brandon Wilkesbury, their development programmer is obviously really good.
Young Horcoff at the University of Michigan is a good
example of that. So I think the future is amazingly bright.

(02:21):
But the truth of the matter is, I don't think
internally they have anybody that's better than have getting Malkom
right now to do what he does to meet them
relevant in terms of being a playoff the team next year?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
How good can Serge morrishof be in goal, especially next
year assuming he's part of the rotation along with I
would presume Archer shee loss. Can he be a legit
number one in the NHL and maybe even better?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Oh, I think he can be legit one. I just
don't know if he can do it next year. I
think they're gonna have to do one A, one B.
It's going to be a lot like the New York
Rangers back in the early nineteen nineties with Mike Richter
and John Van Beisbrook. You know, they basically split the
season between the two of them, and that's basically what
you're probably gonna have to do with Mershoff, and she
loves it. I don't have any way that the goal
Kennedy you had at the end of this year would

(03:07):
be back next year, so I do think there'll be
a change. I don't think Stuart Skinner will be back
there next year. Obviously, is an opportunity to be an
unrestricted free agent. A lot of rumors about him going
to Ottawa because they're desperately in need of the backup goalie.
So we'll see. We'll see how it plays out. But
can Mershop do it. The answer is yes, he Ken,
He's gone through the proper protocols. Wheeling Wilke, Sperry a

(03:28):
little bit in Pittsburgh, get a little taste. He'll be
excellent in training. Cancel, I think it's gonna be fun
to watch, But I do think Pittsburgh's trending the right way.
I really do.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Pierre, I got to get this out there, breaking New
Sydney Crosby will play for Canada at the World Championships. Pierre,
I would bet my life Sid's never done opioids.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
He doesn't need to. He's addicted to hockey.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
He's addicted to hockey, and he's also looking at some
of the guys that are there, and I have to
be fully disclosured with you. I'd been in Sweden for
the last ten days working. I will be here for
another two weeks and then I'm going to Zurich for
the World Championships as well. And my whole trip it's
all hockey all the time. There's with Fortner, Pittsburgh Penguin
Stanley Cup champion Patrick horn Push the other day. I've

(04:10):
spent a lot of time here with Nicko Lichstrom, with
Michael Samuelson, another former Pittsburgh Penguin player. You know, just
so many great sweets, you know, Henry Zetterberg and go
down to the Lion, hundreds of them. So yeah, I'm
here too. So there are a lot of people that
are coming over the side of the pond because there
is some hockey to watch and uh and be a

(04:30):
part of. So I'm excited about.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
That, Pierre.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Could anybody be Carolina eight and no.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
No, but they can so. And I will not take
anything away from Carolina. Full respect for me to Carolina
because I thought they had a bad match up with
the Ottawa and they did. The problem was Ottawa was
really injured and Carolina played so well they deserve a
ton of credit. They killed up almost five five on
three or three five on three for a full two

(04:58):
minutes in that series against Ottawa. That just mind shattering.
How good their special teams have been. The internal development
of their players has been phenomenal. Mark, But I do
think they can be beat. I think they can be
beat in the Eastern Conference Final, depending on who gets it,
if it's Montreal. Montreal in a lot of success with
Carolina this year. Buffalo maybe not as much, but we'll
see how that series plays out. And then in the final.

(05:20):
I don't know if anybody's going to beat Colorado. I
really don't.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, let's talk about that, because Colorado beat Minnesota last
night and is now in control of that series three
games to one, and Colorado is the better team, might
be the best team, period. But I'm still disappointed because
I want to see quinn Ughes play as long as
possible this season.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
That pass last.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Night to tie the game that diagonal to a one
time or my god, through traffic, what vision that kid has?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That was a magnificent play the Nico Sterm, and Sterm
is a two time Stanley Cup champion. People who conveniently
forget that he won in Colorado, and he won in Florida,
and you know, he goes to Minnesota and get some
chance to play with a guy like Quinn. You that
was some spectacular play. Good on you for even recognizing
that that was a spectacular hockey play. Quinn, He's a

(06:08):
ton of fun. You know what his new nickname is Mark.
It's not Minnesota for him, It's Quinnesota. That's what they're
calling him out there.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, it is Quinnesota because that's a good team. But
he is very likely the best player on it. And
one thing that impresses me he knows how to decelerate
the open space. Some guys just skate at full speed
and hope the space is there. He can see when
slowing up benefits him. And that's a rare talent.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Isn't it It is? And I just spend a lot
of time with one guy that was the king of that,
and that's Nicholas Lidstrom. Yes, you know, I spend so
much time with Nick over the last three days and
we're actually doing a big TV thing here at the
start of next week. I think on Monday you lose
track of Datia. I've been traveling all over this country
and it's such a great hockey country. But yeah, Nicky

(06:53):
and I are doing a big thing. And that's the
first guy I think of when you talk about that point,
because it's such a good point. Larry Murphy he was
very good at that too. Mars he was very, very
good at that. Drew Dowdy's another one that's very good
at that and was extremely good at it when he
was in his prime. It's a it's a lost art,
it really is. Because everybody talks about accelerate, accelerated, accelerate,
sometimes you have to decelerate. It's such a good point

(07:16):
you just raised.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
We got game four tonight Buffalo in Montreal.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
What a series added is in talking to quinn Ewes
is Lane Hudson from Montreal on d is he in
a class with a guy like Ughs and the car
guys that are at the top of the defensive heat.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I've been wanting there's in his kid since he played
junior hockey, and I watched him practice forever and ever
at Boston University in his two years there and nothing
he does surprises me. He's got the heart of a
liance guy, unbelievable athleticism, he's got great hockey sense, he
can die there. There's a Phil Holsey. I'm doing this
for the older people in the honest there's a Phil

(07:51):
Holsey component to his game that was amazingly similar. And yeah,
there's a lot of Quinn hugheson him too, But this
guy's really special. He's that he's almost at another level.
You know, he's in the group of Zach Laranski, Calee mccarr,
Quinn Hughes. He's in with that group now. I'm not
saying at the top of it, but he's definitely in there.
Jake Sanderson Outo was another one that's definitely in their

(08:12):
brock favor Minnesota. Those are now the tower of tower
kind of guys on defense in the league, and Lane
is definitely in there.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
The Canadians and Sabers are not teams with extensive playoff experience. Pierre,
not individually even But is it just me or was
Buffalo just a bit rattled in Game three and Tage
Thompson's playing hurt?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I think I really wonder where that series goes from here.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
This is a gigantic Game four in Montreal tonight. I'll
be in the post game show from here over in Sweden,
but I can't wait to watch it. The truth of
the matter is Montreal's got a way to rattle teams.
They played a terrible Game one, they all knew that.
They came back and played guilty in game two. They've
scored eleven goals in the last two games against Buffalo
in games two and three. That's amazing in playoff. Now

(09:00):
we will say two of those are empty netter, so
let's say nine. But the truth of the matter is
Montreal has been better because their depth players found a
way in Tampa and the Tampa series to really be important,
to be productive offensively, and they've taken that from that
series and implemented it into this series with Buffalo. And
right now Buffalo can't measure up to that, which is

(09:21):
shocking to me. But the truth of the matters so
far they haven't been able to measure up.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, you talk about the deaf guys. What about that
new hook kid.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
He's getting awarded goals like getting hooked from behind on
fty nets.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It's like everything he touches goes right. You love to
see it, don't yet?

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, you're really doing He's another guy. He doesn't get
enough credit. He wont to Stanley Cup in Colorado play
twelve games that playoff season for Colorado. He had just
come out of Boston College. I mean, he's a tremendously
skilled player. He's got a lot of speed. He's never
been known as a pure scorer though, Mark I watched
them play junior in British Columbia, watched them play at
Boston College for a legendary coach and Jerry Yorke. But

(09:58):
the truth of the matters, never been a pure scor.
He's more of a winger than a centerment and I
think Montreal realizes that now they kind of miscalculated playing
at center for a lot and big portions of the season.
Now they've got him on the wing and he's taken
off and he's having a ton of fun doing it.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Pierre Vegas and Anaheim are tied at two games apiece,
but Vegas looks slow compared to Anaheim. I mean they should.
They're older. The Ducks have that extra gear, don't they.
And call Koustin gotie especially.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh my goodness, Grace is great picked up by you,
cutter goc. I can't believe he's not a Philadelphia Flyer,
but he isn't. And that's on the Flyers not.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
And that's okay.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, I trust me, me me too. And then you know, obviously,
you know you look at you look at all these
good players in the league right now, Leo Carlson has
got to be right at the top of the food
chain mark. He's big, he's fast, There's a Jonathan Tage
quality to his game, There's a Sydney Crosby quality to
his game. His playmaking is a made his ability to

(11:01):
finish places off the charts. He's not a defensive liability
for a young player that's very rare in this day
and age that he's special. They got a lot going
on there right now. The future is so bright for
that team. It really is so bright. And the best
part of that's happening to those kids. Pack lebeakon knew
they needed help. So they go out and get Alex Galorn,
they go out and get Jacob True, but they go

(11:21):
out and get Chris Prider. They get some older guys
that have a Carlson experience. It's really helped him. Yeah,
and Johnny Carlson. Great catch by you. Again, they're bringing
Johnny from Washington eighteen years of NHL experience. That's a lot.
So you put it all together, they've done a really
nice job there. And best free agent signing last summer
was Joe Guinville.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Who is playing the best hockey right now, You've already
said Colorado, who's the closest Carolina.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Caroline's the closest. But I'm going to tell you right
now that if they have the break, let's just say,
Buffalo can win the night and at least have a
game six in this series you're talking about Carolina, potentially
them two weeks off, maybe twelve days. That's a lot
of rhythm lost for that team, and I think that's
going to be a big thing around their neck when
they get into the Eastern Conference Final, which they've already

(12:11):
you know, qualified for, So I think that's one of
the things to watch. But we'll see how it plays out.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Especially at series beginning, right Pierre, If they get if
they get let's say ten days off and then game one,
you'd have to think that whoever they're playing would be favored,
and the hidden vigorous too, not having lost being.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Eight to no.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Correct. And here here's the one thing again that people
don't like to talk about. You can get out a
rhythm in a hurry, and you can lose track of
this series in a hurry. And on case in point
will be Philadelphia. When Philadelphia goes into Carolina, they get
piled driven in the first game, they get beaten the
second game, in overtime, they get beaten the third game

(12:52):
and the series is already over. That's how fast it happened.
Is like six days. They went from being at the
top of the mountain to being all the way down
and learned six days. That's how fast it can happen
when you lose your focus and your train of thought
and your rhythm.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Finally, Pierre and somebody called the show and asked me yesterday,
but I said, well, Pierre'll know, so I'll ask Kim
Toronto won the draft lottery?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is Gavin M. Kennedy automatic number one pick?

Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, sir, he is not. If you were to ask
me last year, I would have told you yes. But
as I told you, I'm here in Sweden. I've been
watching a lot of these young Swedes play, and Ivar
Stenberg is probably one of the biggest rivals for him,
So we'll see whether Charnto's got an appetite for that
or I remember, Matt Sundeen has just been hired by

(13:37):
the Least into a senior management position. He's been living
in Sweden. He's going to move to Toronto now. He's
been watching a lot of these Swedish kids play. It's
a very deep draft from Sweden this year. Stenburgh is
the best of the young Swede. Don't forget there's a
kid named Brigod Bork as well. He's a very good player.
He'll be at the World Championship. So there's a lot

(14:00):
of talent over here right now. And I wouldn't be
surprised if, even though a lot of people are annointing McKenna,
I think Stenberg could pushing for number one. I really do.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
And then whoever doesn't go to Toronto gets to go
to San Jose with all those guys celebrity on.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
Top of that pole.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
The one thing that's being rumored out there, Mark and
it's only a rumor, so please don't go crazy on me,
that they might trade the second pick because they have
a huge organizational need for defense, and that second overall
pick for some teams that are really deep on defense
that need a forward, that could be where San Jose
can really hit the mother vote and it could work

(14:39):
out very well for them.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Pierre has always great stuff. Enjoy your time in Sweden
and we'll do it again next week. Enjoy the hockey.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I can't wait. Mark, thanks a lot, Enjoy the playoffs.
Everybody talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
That's the great, Peer maguire.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
We got Sean Casey, the mayor, talking baseball at the
bottom of the hour.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
X one of Mark matt to see his checks.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Causing a constant commotion. Sometimes, I'm said, damn dumb. I
wouldn't take a phone call from me.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
The exit one nine.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Lots of talk in the wake of the Kyle Dubas
press conference today to wrap up the Penguins season, he
said the Penguins would love to have Geno back, but
but he has to say that if they wanted him back,
they could have him signed right now. They signed Doer,
they signed solely off. I would think this would be
just as simple. You either want them or you don't.

(15:33):
He also called Sid unique as if to cut him
from the pack and use the term nostalga to refer
to the core three, even as he also said that
at some point he took this job knowing it'd have
to be the bad guy. Here's some other stuff Dubas said,
here's here's the Penguins GM talking about what the Penguins
need most.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
I think what we really lack of those players in
there later twenties that are really true difference makers or
mid twenties twenties that are true difference makers. And I
think if you're one of those players that's a free
agent or your you know your situation in your spot
is not going well, and you have some control, you
could look at us and think, you know and see
very clearly that you're going to be supported by a
great coaching staff that gets the most other players. But

(16:16):
you also have young players that are going to push
from behind and older players that are going to set
the tone. So I think Pittsburgh, for all that it
is as a city a sports city, is a great
place to play, great place to grow and have a family.
But also I think in terms of the sporting side
for us on the hockey side, think it should be
one of, if not the most appealing places to any
player that has a choice in those matters and we'll

(16:38):
investigate all those as we go into the summer.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Do it was is right, But difference makers in their
mid to late twenties are what's hardest to get because
unrestricted free agency doesn't start in the NHL to you
reach twenty seven or have seven accrued seasons, and the
difference makers at that age or already signed long term

(17:02):
teams don't let them get away.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Look at the list of unrestricted free agents.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
All of them are old.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Dubas talked about having forty six million in cap space
and that's a ton, but he correctly said, you don't
want to spend all of it now and regret it later,
not have it to spend later. You know, the Penguins
ain't nowhere close and it won't be easy, and it
won't be on the Core three's timetable. It's time to

(17:28):
start getting realistic about that. Here's Dupas on the Penguins goaltending.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Really happy with the way that already played.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
I think with he and ste both being free agents,
one unrestricted, one restricted, I think we'll we'll continue to
watch in the playoffs and see how Surrogei plays. Jewel
been in the organization for a long time. Obviously, you
know Sergey's run with the ball here in the playoffs,
so we'll see how that continues to progress and use
that as a measurement.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
But my full expectation that the two.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
Of them, Surgain and Joel, will be competing for a
roster spot here this year's you know, we'll make the
decision on the other one, but I think they both
have earned over years now the chance to compete for that.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
I'm sure that Penguin fans expected morishof to be anointed,
perhaps as early as Dubas speaking today, but that's just
not how it works. And Chilofs is a restricted free agent,
so you got to deal with that, even though his
leverage is minimal. I'm not sure what the level of
faith that is in Joel Blumquist, who's kind of sucking

(18:34):
hind you know what, among the Penguin young goalies, but
he is obviously literally in the conversation you heard Dubis
talk about him just now.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
The point is you got to make more self work
for it. But he's the guy. If he's not, there's
a problem, it's.

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Speaker 1 (20:14):
Pirates are part of a crowded house in the NL Central.
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the mayor Sean Casey case Uh, let's get the question
everybody wants answered out of the way. Have you seen

(20:34):
Aaron Rodgers anywhere?

Speaker 6 (20:39):
I have not seen him recently, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
My buddy and Tim kurb down the road he has
he's worth doing yard work in the in the woods.
Maybe he's back there. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Well, well, keep us updated if something happens.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Hey, I just mentioned the NL Central case, how many
wild cards are going to come from the NL Central?
And are the Cubs going to run away with the division?

Speaker 9 (21:01):
It's a great division, double I mean usually then you
know you're talking about Daniel Santa like that's okay. But
the Cubs, you know, they got a great team, you know,
listen the one thing I've learned about major League baseball,
and you know it too.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Man, it's just six months. It's a six month marathon.

Speaker 9 (21:15):
So you could be hot now and then you could
have a couple injuries here and there.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
And all of a sudden fall off the face of
the earth.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
So they look good. They got a great offense, Their
pitching's been great, They've done everything well. The back end
of the pen's been good. Milwaukee's really good. You know,
what they've done so far has been impressed. Up Saint
Louis is the team that's probably surprised me the most
with how they've played. And then Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are
sitting there, so you know, I think it's really up
for grabs. The Cubs obviously looks like the early favorite,

(21:41):
but it's a long season.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, you got half from Libo your way with the
nine home runs and the guy who impresses me, and
we knew he was good with that Ima Naga, because
I think to really make a run, you got to
have that top of the rotation guy that's legit and
he is, isn't he?

Speaker 9 (21:56):
I really is? I mean a Monaga too, if you
pay attention to what he's doing. He's throwing a lot
more split fingers this year. You know, he usually was
a top rail heater. That's worth great. He's had great
first half since he's been over there in the States,
and the second half has just been okay. But if
you're looking at the splits this year, but what he's throwing,
you know that split finger has really worked well for him.
But you're right, you've got to have a top of

(22:17):
the rotation guy. And that's what I love about the
Pirates double. I want to tell you the truth is,
there's a few of those guys in our rotation.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
I want to talk about Connor Griffin.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
He looks very good after a shaky start, which I
guess at nineteen should have been expected.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
What do you see?

Speaker 1 (22:32):
What's he doing better if anything? Or is it just
kind of maturity just being hurried up.

Speaker 6 (22:37):
I think you can't teach experiences.

Speaker 9 (22:39):
There is something about when you first get called up
to the big lingus that third deck is real. You
look up, you know you got two decks in the miners.
You look up that third deck You're like, wow, that's
a different view right there. You know, seriously, there's something
to it. So I think the one thing that's impressed
about Griffin. You know, in the last sixteen games, what
is he hitting three point thirty nine, He's got seven
extra base hits.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
He's hitting the.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
Ball the ball, driving in runs. And the big stat
that kind of popped out at me, he's got five
punchouts and seven walks. So what that tells me when
you watch his body of work and you watch his
bats pitched by pitch man, this guy's a tough out.
He's gonna make you work. He's not gonna chase, you know,
like a young kid would chase. So what impresses me
the most so far the way he controls the strike

(23:20):
zone and when he gets a pitch to hit, he
does damage on it.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Now, you and I had this conversation off the air,
but I want to take a public You would move
the fences in at PNC because Griffin's your guy for
the long term, sign for nine years. Make it like
Kinner's Corner because it's death Valley and left center.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Talk about that.

Speaker 9 (23:38):
It's entertainment.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Man.

Speaker 9 (23:39):
At the end of the day, if I'm coming down
to PNC Park, I want to watch Connor Griffin. I
wanted to watch him dominate and you know the bottom
line is four to ten the left center. You're not
gonna see your stars dominate. You're gonna see a lot
of balls go there to die. I'm saying, I just
remember when they when when they built City Field and
they made right right center pretty far back. And David Wright,
what's your start playing? And all of a sudden he's

(24:02):
not hitting home runs the right center. That's wrong with
David Right. You built a park that doesn't set up
for your star player for the next how many years
you signed for I mean, you just signed Griffin to
a nine year deal. You could pull that four to
ten alley in redo the bullpens. Make them, make them
real nice, make it a three eighty five. You might
see Connor Griffin hit fully homes a year and be

(24:22):
a star player.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
You know.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
For me, I just know for right handed hitters a
P and C park that four to ten left center,
I'm if I'm pack and I'm Bob nutting. I do
a little a little bit of reconstruction over there in
the offseason, just like some teams of Kaufman Stadium, They've
just brought them defenses in a few feet. They realized
in Baltimore, when they put the fences back to three

(24:45):
ninety six to left. Like h oh, Connor Gunner Henderson
hasn't hit a ball to left center, which he was
doing for a while in two years. What they do,
they moved them in. So teams are moving are making
their their park fit the personnel what they have. And
for a guy like.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Connor Griffin, who's a right handed hitter who.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
Has big time power, if I'm nutting in those guys,
I'm making that park fit.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
My star and case you and I also talked about
how the pitchers might feel, and the answer to that
is who cares?

Speaker 9 (25:15):
Yeah, come on, you kidding me? The advantage has gone
so heavy to the picture now. These guys are throwing harder.
The pitch shapes, everyone's got six pitches. The hitters, you know, like,
what's wrong with the offense, Well, let's do things to
help out the offense. And it's a fine the pitchers.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
What ballpark was best for you as a hitter, because
you barely got to hit a great American ballpark in
Cincinnati it was new when you were near the end
of your tenure.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
There, that's a hitter's park. Which one was best for you?

Speaker 9 (25:43):
I mean it was a hitters park. I love great
American Ballpark.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
You know.

Speaker 9 (25:46):
I really enjoyed hitting at PNC Park when I was,
you know, coming in as a visiting player.

Speaker 6 (25:51):
A little bit there with the.

Speaker 9 (25:51):
Parks, but I'd say at double them. If I could
go back in my prime and you give n Way Park,
which I played my last year, you know, I that
monster alone, you know, because I could feel like I
can manipulate even that pitch middle in I could still
shoot at the left. I think that.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Would have been a fun time what I could have
done there.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Like years ago.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, that's a great call because I think I actually
wrote a story about this. When you played college ball
or whatever, you had that inside out swing if you
could read the pitch right and you'd want OPO, no problem.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
Yeah, for whatever reason, I could get inside the baseball,
Like even that pitch it kind of like got in
on me. I could get the barrel to it, like
just you know, that was one that was probably one
of the biggest skills that I had. And I can't
tell you how many times early in my career I'd
hit these high fly balls the left center right at
the track and I'm like, oh man, you kidding me, like,
and I think at Sway that's like three twenty to

(26:42):
the left, those would all been bank off the wall.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know, we're talking to the mayor Sean Casey here
on one oh five nine in the X check out
his Mayor's Office podcast. Case what's wrong with Reynolds and
Cruise because they just got to do more. I mean,
they don't snink per se But Cruise has seen his
average drop one hundred points in a month, and Reynolds
has one home run in twenty five games.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
What are you seeing from those two?

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Well, you know, I think one thing too. I mean,
you know, I think with Cruise, he got off to
such a hot start, we're like, oh, this guy's gonna
be the greatest player in the league. I mean, obviously,
you know we've seen two versions of Cruise. You thought
was gonna be on the better players in the league,
and a guy last year thought maybe we should have
sent him down. So maybe he's somewhere in between that.
But his powers real. He's still getting some big hits lately.

(27:28):
I'm not so worried about the one hundred point drop
because he's still you know, hitting decent and you know,
got up to such a hot start. You know, Reynolds
is a guy that gets they gets hot. You know,
he can get He gets hot and cold. So I
think when he gets cold, you're like, man, what's going
on with this guy? But I think if you've watched
reynolds career over the years, when he hits home runs,
he hits him in bunches. And I think the great

(27:49):
thing is double m if you look at the lineup,
I mean, Low's been so good. Ohearn's been so good.
You know, Ozuna's coming along starting to look better. Forrowitz
has been good. So Reynolds didn't own me, you know,
don't need to be what we thought. But the Pots
needed them to beat these last couple of years. They
can still slide in and struggle a little bit here
and there, and that lineup still gonna bang.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Is it inaccurate to say Ryan O'Hearn reminds me a
little bit of you. He's like just the real professional hitter,
real polished and organized.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
Yeah you know what, Yeah, that's a great compliment. I
like o'hearne, you know, I really believe, like the one
thing I love about this line up top to bottom.
I think there's a lot more tough outs. They're gonna
make you work.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
They're gonna make that starting pitcher work.

Speaker 9 (28:32):
A little bit.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
O'Hearn just puts together professional batch. You're right.

Speaker 9 (28:35):
I mean he's gonna he hits lefties, he hits right
he's uh, he's gonna make you work, and he's gonna
put the ball in play. So you know, I think
O'Hearn has been such a great addition to this club case.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Here's a debate that popped up on social media. Is
Mason Miller Bethel Park, San Diego? Is he the most
unhittable pitcher in baseball right now?

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (28:58):
No, there's no doubt about it.

Speaker 6 (28:59):
Dude. I mean, was with them at the WBC.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
What a great guy. First of all, you know you
got a root for the Pittsburgh guys, especially a South
Hills guy in Betham Park. But you know, I think
when he started throwing that slider last year, double m
what was funny was he was throwing a bunch of heaters.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
And listen, big leader can hit below.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
You know, guys like, oh.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
That's it doesn't matter if you threw a had a bazooka.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
Up there and you launched one down the middle. These
guys are turning it around somewhere. There's no doubt about it.
So like Mason Miller last year was like, you know what,
I'm getting hit around too much on my heater. I'm
gonna start throwing his slider. And I think since he's
the that slider, I know he's thrown it close to
forty percent of the time. It has become the equalizer man,
and that that slider is almost unhittable. I'd say he's

(29:40):
the toughest at that right now in the big leagues,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Who's the fastest pitcher you ever faced? And when you did,
were you scared or frustrated? What went through your head?
And what did you try to do?

Speaker 10 (29:51):
Well?

Speaker 9 (29:52):
A couple guys that I face, I mean Randy Johnson
was hitting probably one hundred to one hundred and one.
Billy Wager, There's no doubt in my mind if he
was on the guns. Nowadays, he's hitting one o four,
one oh five, no doubt about it. I mean from
the left side double m like he was Wags.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Isn't that big of a dutey.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
He throws like almost like a catcher. So like back
in the day where they used to have the long
arm swings. More guys are doing shar a short arm action.
But Billy Wagger would call me tuck and he throw
it like a catcher from like you know, and you
could barely see it. It looked like a bebe coming
up there the man. I was like, that's that's that's
that's pretty hard. And then there's one other guy I faced.
Do you remember.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Joel's ya with the with the tier.

Speaker 9 (30:30):
I remember when the Tigers came in and I was
with the buckets right before I got traded to the Tigers.
I faced du Maayan and I remember he hit me
with a one oh four middle of way. I was
a whoa, that looked different. But I tell you what.
As the bat went on double m I'm like, okay,
I'm on him like I saw it. And I was like,
if I saw that got a couple of times, I
would have been on him. So that's what I mean
with v LO. There's something about big leaguers eyes. The

(30:52):
reason they're there is because the I hand coordination is
a little different. You can hit velocity.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well, there's the big Randy Johnson thing. And you're obviously
not the only guy to say that. I only could
he bring it, but his arm angle it looked like
he was like, you know, almost behind your back.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
As a left handed hittery.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I mean, I couldn't even imagine how you guys picked
up the ball, all things considered, six.

Speaker 9 (31:13):
Eleven and also too like nowadays, you know they're paying
attention to release point if guys can get down the
mound and release the ball. So if you think about
you have a shorter guy at sixty feet six inches,
he doesn't have a he doesn't have a big stride
to the mound, or you're hitting him, you know he's
releasing it at whatever fifty five feet. Now you have
a guy like Glass now, or you have a guy
like Randy Johnson man he was six'. Eleven not only

(31:36):
was he throwing it behind you at one hundred miles
an hour with a ninety three mile hour, slider his
release point because he was so, big he was almost
probably releasing.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
It at fifty two.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
Feet he was eight feet closer than probably another. Pitcher
so that made it tough to so double. Them there
were some Times.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
I'm, LIKE, whoa this is a different animal right. Here
this is.

Speaker 9 (31:54):
Ridiculous you, know.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
What would you do if you bat it Against.

Speaker 9 (31:57):
Miller, MILLER i would hunt a here AND i would
try to make Sure i'm pushing them, out AND i
think anything close to me is going to be a real.
Problem AND i would try to get him early BECAUSE
i just don't want to get to the. SLIDER i
would just try to try to ambush them early and
and see IF i get that.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Fastball how about against.

Speaker 9 (32:17):
Uh, Man i'll tell you, What jesus got some great, stuff.

Speaker 6 (32:20):
DUDE i, mean you know WHAT i. THINK i.

Speaker 9 (32:21):
THINK i look at schemes LIKE i looked At Roy.
Halliday Roy halliday back in the, day if you, remember you,
know he would have six pitches where double M i
would face.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
Them the first of bat he would hit me with.

Speaker 9 (32:31):
A sink or sink and change. Up and then next
to That i'd come and hit me with curveball curveball,
cutter and then the third of bat he would hit
me with another. Arsenal i'm, like oh my, god this
guy's got no. PATTERNS i don't. KNOW i can't really
get a game plan on, him AND i don't know
what the hell's going on, Here AND i like that's
WHEN i watch. Schemes. Picture i'm, like like he's he's
just carving, people criss crossing the. Plate it's elite, stuff

(32:55):
electric six, pieces six picks. Mix i'm, LIKE i don't
know WHAT i would do with.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
THAT i heard what was.

Speaker 9 (33:00):
GREAT i got a chance to hear skeens he talking
in the in the in the dugout to cal rawling
during THE. Wbc you, know and and AND i, WAS
i really was us. JOBBING i want to hear what
this conversation. Is AND i can hear scheme set, man
that splinker didn't work, Right let's double up on that
splinker next. Time hit him with a you, know a
four steamer. Up And i'm, like, man whoever he faces
coming out, like you, know his schemes is always Thinking i'm.

(33:23):
Nasty SO i don't know WHAT i would. DO i
would just hopefully get one hit or a walk and
call it a. Day.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Uh colorado's and ton.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Tonight The pirates lost two out of three At San,
francisco and sometimes you lose a series on the. Road
But i'm a big. Believer you got to beat the
teams you're clearly better. Than AND i think The pirates
are clearly better than The giants and clearly better than The.
Rockies And i'm also with the belief, THAT i, mean
look at the standings now, CASE i think it's gonna
Be razor's edge all the way, through don't you for a.

Speaker 9 (33:49):
WILDCARD i think these teams are really. GOOD i think
the whole an no essentral is really.

Speaker 6 (33:54):
Good you, KNOW i think The phillies are starting to
make a round with you, know with.

Speaker 9 (33:57):
The wildcard and. Stuff and you're, right double and it
doesn't matter better if It's, April, May, September August. September
you've got to beat the teams you got to beat
at that. Time so you know they got you, know,
pirates no, doubt want to come, away you, know with
with a series winning against The. Rockies AND i think
they might have given a game or two away out
there In San, francisco even though they went six and

(34:17):
three on that road. Trip so, LISTEN i like my,
Chances Paul skins and the opener against The, rockies you,
know to get that game one and hopefully get the.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Series you, know you make a good point about The
phillies because right now they're nineteen and twenty, two three
games under five.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hundred BUT i know they're.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
GOOD i, mean the records don't always, live but sometimes, Right, yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
No, no you're.

Speaker 9 (34:38):
Right you, KNOW i think The phillies are a lot
better than they've, played and you know they're going to
make a run at some. Point so like they're nineteen
and twenty, TWO i think they're ninety three Under, Mattingly
Bryce harper is looking like a. Star schwar but just
hit his sixteenth the other. Day so they're, Coming they're
going to be in the. Mix they're going to be
a factor at.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Some point, here and you, know we'll see what.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Happens you know what else about The phillies two, case
tell Me i'm. Wrong always look. Mad they're guys like Christ,
harper Even. Schwarber they always look pissed, off don't.

Speaker 9 (35:04):
They They they really.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Do.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
Man But i'll tell you what you're playing In.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
Philly there's a reason to be pissed off all the
time because those fans are.

Speaker 9 (35:12):
Probably yelling at you all the. Time being With schwarbur
and being Around. Harper, uh you know at THE, wbc,
man they're intense. Guys they want to. Win but they're
good guys, too there they they are lighthearted and they
got some, jokes but, yeah they're.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Intense speaking of speaking a light Hearted sixers And flyers double.
Sweep that did my heart some. GOOD i can tell
you that right. Now case is always a. Pleasure looking
forward to having you on. More and we'll talk again real.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
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Speaker 9 (35:37):
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would think.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Everybody would be disappointed with the Season brunick, had and he,
SAID i, disagree but he's. Wrong they mangled brunick. Season
at one point he played like five games in five
weeks because they were so indecisive about back to junior
or not back to junior conditioning in THE ahl here
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To World juniors and wasn't very, good and that was
because they mangled the first half of the. SEASON i
don't Think kyle's made many, mistakes but he mangled The
penguins mangled the first half Of brunis.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Season now is he come back and played? Well was
he a top pier defenseman In? Wilkes?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
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a good relationship With, kyle And i've been around long
enough and know enough WHERE i can ask a tough.
Question the answering always. RIGHTS i always have laughed about.
That well the coach, said OR i had to go
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netflix WHICH i thought was actually pretty good AND i
just wanted to get your thoughts on how his Daughter
brooke did not participate in the. Documentary and if you
don't blame her for, it.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
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Speaker 1 (38:56):
Nobody she always you, know dined out on being Hull cogan's,
daughter has had no other job besides being Hul cogan's.
Daughter hasn't been known for anything besides Being hulkogan's. Daughter
the reality show her t and a stint her singing
career which he did the stage door daddy thing. For
SO i don't think her presence was even. Required SO

(39:18):
i you, KNOW i really don't care what she. Thinks
she could probably tell by that and what would she
have contributed had she? Participated you tell, Me.

Speaker 10 (39:27):
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from his father was probably because that she never forgave
whenever she whenever he committed adultery with her. Friend AND
i thought that was where like things started to like.

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Fault, yeah but but the mom committed a committed adultery
with the high school kid, Too.

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me particularly informative BECAUSE i was. Around but in terms
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Show DURING, COVID i Did Ask Mark anything two segments
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have to really be selective because you couldn't do it
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suck or does somebody have it out against?

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DEAL i know that we can judge What mike McCarthy
thinks of, him just.

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Yet.

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UH i Think johnson got blamed unfairly for not knowing
that kickoff rule In seattle last. Year maybe that is
football one oh, one but it's worth noting as well
that he had never returned a kickoff.

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Before so what's he doing out?

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johnson being cut only if you're trying to open the
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blowah blah.

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Speaker 12 (42:14):
Uh do you root against The Montreal canadians like you
do The Toronto Maple.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
League, no The canadians are my mistress. Team they've always
been my second favorite, team dating back to the seventies
when they de rolled The Philadelphia flyers and had that
dynasty at the end of the. Decade that, Said i'm
rooting For jordan stall in these. PLAYOFFS i Want carolina
to win the cuping Gets stallsey another ring after having
won one with The penguins in two thousand and nine

(42:41):
when he was twenty or, NINETEEN i forget what it.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Was but but, Yeah i'm rooting For. Stallsey but, no you,
SEE i DON'T.

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so that would Be, quebec and that would Be canada
getting A cup for the first time since ninety three
When montreal also won. It But english Speaking canada part
of them would hate it.

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just can't really Get i'd rather rid for like the
MINOR i Called, buffalo Like canada. Minor So i'd rather
root For.

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It let's go to a.

Speaker 13 (43:53):
Talkback, Hey, DOUBLEM i wanted to ask you this after
Your mike McCarthy, interview but back in the early, days
did you ever in or even Meet Mike, Tomlin and if,
so what was your initial impression of him early?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
On.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Thanks ran Into Mike tomlin once in A penguins game
in nine eight during The Stanley Cup, final right AFTER
i got. Fired he was both cordial and arrogant prick
at the same, time if that makes. Sense so JUST
i Interviewed kyle or plenty of, times And i'm gonna
Interview mike McCarthy plenty of, TIMES.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I must be a, racist won't talk to the black. Guy,
no we would have had him on it just never
was gonna. Happen come, on uh eight word
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