July 9, 2026 • 36 mins
Mark is joined by Scott Blasey of the Clarks this hour
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, I'm just pissed about last night. Jones get lifted,
Bart hitting the home run. The bullpen blows up today
and people say they got to get bullpen help. Well,
I'm afraid I've bilked some bad news. They're not gonna
add anything significant between here and the trade deadline effect
right now. Right now, I think it's fifty to fifty
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they trade Brandon Lyle, and I'd be more militant about
getting the bullpen help if they would make better use
of the bullpen they got. I'm gonna keep coming back
Tom Leginski. He's been one of their best pictures in
a bulk relief role, in a low leverage role. But
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the numbers don't lie, and they say Leginski is one
of the pirates best pictures. And he goes in Tuesday
night at garbage time, and then he wasn't available the
last two nights, well, last night and today when they
could have used them. Like I said earlier, Joan six
perfect innings last night, Lajinsky two perfect innings Tuesday when
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it didn't matter. Transfer those two perfect innings.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
To last night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Maybe you get a better result, maybe you get a
three way perfect game. And god knows, I like a
three way, although I'm a little too old for that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now I defend Donnie Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think he's probably not a very good manager, the
way Catcher's been handled, the way he does everything by Rote,
not using Leginski right the bullpen, obviously being uncomfortable, not
knowing when a guy's gonna come in.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I've given him the benefit of the dop, but perhaps
I've been wrong. And it depends on the day though,
because one minute people are crediting Kelly if they win
a game, and now it's fired Donnie Kelly, Ben Sherrington.
We've been talking about the great acquisitions he made and
law and o'hearne, But why want he help the bullpen?
And the answer to that is not, he won't spend more.
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And if you're gonna get help, you got four key
position players, four decent bats out right now actually decent
or better with Cruise, Griffin, Horwitz, and now Andy ain't
gonna get no help. I see people saying, let's make
a big trade. Let's trade somebody on Twitter, O'Neil Cruise
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for Mason Miller. Yeah, they're not gonna do that. They're
not gonna do anything. The goal ain't to win. Ain't
you figured that out yet? The goal ain't to win.
The goal was to keep you hooked by being just
good enough. They feed you just enough so you know
you're hungry. A three three four one two WXDX. Let's
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go to our good friend, the Hebrew hammer hammer Yuck shamash.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Hey, yuck shamash mark the game last night.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Embody is what's wrong with sports?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And what I mean by that is is were developed
or invented to entertain the fans.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
In all the coaches.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And the gms, they think like they're preparing for the
Battle of the Bulge.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So Jared Jones, I don't care what happens to his elbow.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He makes a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't care what happens to his shoulder, none of it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Go out and pitch and entertain.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
The fans well, especially the situation where a perfect game
is possible. You have total command and you've only thrown
seventy seven pitches. Now if you want to take him
out at the minute he concedes a hit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But they don't care about the fans at all, and
they don't they think the fans always care about winning.
I guarantee you if you would have pulled the fans
last night at PNC and said, well, would you put
Jones's elbow at risk to try for a perfect game,
they would have all said yes. And the bottom line
is they're saving Jared Jones. They're making sure he's okay
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to pitch meaningless innings in September.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah again.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean the whole thing was developed for the spectator
and the fan, and even in football, it's like, oh,
he got.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Twenty eight carries.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't care, he's not making twelve to fifteen an hour.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He's making.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Even Jared Jones, it's set the rest of his life.
Who cares of his elbow explodes?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I can't top that. That's your cue, yuk mush?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Was that like an explosion? I would rather baboom. Let's
go to Jason. Jason ask Mark anything? Oh no, we're
not doing that. But you still can't go ahead? Hello Jason, are.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You on the air? Okay, screw you, Jason. Let's go
to Carl.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Hello Carl, Hey, Mark, I want to call and talk
about the Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
They're engraving on the Cup. I in the nineteen eighty
three eighty four season when the Oilers won.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
The owner there Pockington, his.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Dad's named and they and they and they exed it out.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It crossed it out. Yeah, and they crossed it out.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do you do you think that the.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
NHL league here would do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think the NHL now is a lot more afraid
of these owners than that NHL was afraid of those owners.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And even if they did cross it out, you wouldn't
have the room to put the guys on it who
deserved it, the equipment manager and so forth.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It is a crime, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And and I want to give a shout out to
my my buddies, like Tags his staff, uh Dana Hinze
from Johnston, former equipment manager Steve.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Lattin who who I think.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know where he retired to, maybe Carolina because
he was working for their minor league affiliated.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
At his last job.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I've always had great relationships with those guys, Uh
poly d Don the arena at the late at Cagiano
going back. Just just great people and a part of
the team. If you're around it every day or is
off as I am every game, you know they're a
part of the team and deserve better than this dipstick
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in Carolina gave them.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Let's get Ryan.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You're on with Mark. Good day, Mark, I said, good day.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
A question for you on the World Cup, specifically the goaltenders.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
What dictates what colored shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They can wear?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It seems like they kind of vary across each team
does that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
To wear. I don't think they're told.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I just think it has to differ from from both teams,
from the from the out jerseys for each team that
the field players are wearing. You know what I mean,
Like just so you are easily distinguishable by both teams
and for the referee sake as well. Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And one of the things I think.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think the teams probably dictate. I think the teams
have schemes as I know Liverpool do for what goalie
jersey goes with what kit worn.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
In the field. Okay, thank you, Mark, thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I get more calls in calls are fun eight three
to three, four to one two WXDX. Do you feel
like the Pirates season is in jeopardy now despite them
being at five hundred? You know it's funny. I hear
like the B team and stuff. They should do this,
They should do that, they should do the other. And
it's always to an extreme that those guys speak in
extreme absolutes all the time for shock value, and it's
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working for them.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But the pirates ain't gonna get nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
They'll make a token move and you'll blow it out
of proportion for how much the guy can help, but
he won't. They won't make the playoffs. That's where this
is headed. That's where this has always been headed. And
at one point they had a chance, but the bullpen
there not to be a lot worse than thought. Skiing sucks,
let's face it, compared to what he should be and
what they needed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Skien sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And now these four guys are hurt and they're not
getting help if they're not gonna help right now, right now,
when they need it, right now, when it's still there
to be made the playoffs, right now, when they can
use it. If they won't get help with those four
bats out and the bullpen and Skiing's sucking, what makes
you think that they help in three weeks? What makes
you think they're getting help in three weeks at that
point would do any good? But you're all marks man.
(08:09):
They know that, they know that they know your suckers,
they know you're stupid, they know you're loyal to a
degree of dumbness, but not too many of you because
they still rank what like twenty seven in the league
in attendants. But they get enough so that they make
a ton of money and they're not gonna spend more.
You don't get that long last time? Can you not
(08:29):
get that? The answer is because your dumb everyone's accusing me.
They get your causing because they love to talk to you.
At one O five ninety X.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's so woody what you need.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
When you got a young trophy white owes money that
I can't even quote the big o'bowski right goodbye t Exe.
We got Scott Blaze of the Carks at the bottom
of the Hour of the Cark celebrating their fortieth anniversary.
Truly a phenomenal Pitsburgh band, right up there with Donnie
Iris Redbeach, great Pittsbury musicians over the last four decades.
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But right now we're talking about the pirates and the
Hebrew Hammer inspired me.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A great deal with what he just said.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I hate to admit that, in fact it pains me,
but he did. And I ask you the question you
can answer inn eight three three four to one two WXDX.
Do you care if Jared Jones lives or dies? And
that might be stated a bit strongly, but you get
the idea. Do you put his welfare? Do you as
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a fan care more about his welfare, his health, his
career then you do witnessing him pitch a perfect game,
then you do the Pirates winning.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't care if Jared Jones's elbow explodes, if his
right arm gets amputated, if his elbow inverts like a
bird's leg. I want the Pirates to win and get
in the playoffs, and I want to see big moments.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like a perfect game or the pursuit thereof.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Even him staying in and giving up a hit, the
moment that the hit is surrendered and the perfect Game dies,
that's something that's a big moment, The tension up to
the release.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When they get a hit.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Him getting yanked out of the game is the absolute
worst case scenario. It defines anti climactic. We were denied
even him blowing the perfect Game. Instead we had to
see the catcher they should have kept be traded hit
a two run home run and beat him. So I
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ask you as a fan, Why do you care about
Jared Jones's career or his welfare or making sure he
can pitch meaningless innings in September? F that and f
him here. We are now entertain us. What are you
waiting for? It's a team that hasn't won a playoff
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series since nineteen seventy nine, hasn't been in the postseason
since twenty fifteen, and you're playing along when the dim
wit manager from Libo says, well, we gotta think about
the future. What future? F you with the future. What's
the last time the future got realized? Why can't the
future be now? Get that some bitch beck out there,
and if his arm falls off, pick it up. He's
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got a spare. Let's go to Marty.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Marty, you're on with double M. Hey Mark, good day,
I said, good day, Hey Mark.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Basically I agree they should be out have them out
there trying to win every game possible. And that's the
bottom line, as you know, is why now the parts
will never win doing that, and they're not gonna ever
win a world.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
My point is like, if you tell Jared Jones to
go back out there, he's got to, and if he
gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So what we got four guys hurt?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now, why are you concern about this guy who you
paid for free last year when he got when he
got hurt?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I agree with you on that's that's the.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And I guarantee, I guarantee you. Have you ever heard
Jared Jones talk to the media. No, he's an ass,
And I guarantee if an average fan met him out
and about that, they would think he was an ass too.
Yet because we buy the jersey with the guy's name
and number on it. And I don't know if Jones
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is on social media, but but you know, we think
we know them because we follow them. That that we're
invested in these guys careers.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I am not. Now Am I invested in Sid's career? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Because he's been here two decades and he's won three
Stanley Cupps.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
He's a guy that's earned my concern. Jaron Jones hasn't
earned my concern. The Pirates is a team, haven't earned
my concern.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
There isn't one person on that team, including the owner,
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Let's go now, boy, it's like the second time this
week we heard from each of the brothers. We had
the Hebrew hammer on before. Now it's my pleasure to
welcome the former star quarterback for Adams College. He is Stan,
the man gable, Stan Gravitas lasting Gravatas.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So I'm a day and age in baseball where everybody
seems to know everything, and it's the analytics and everything's
figured out, and it's a pitch count, and let's get
this guy out here. Why is everybody's armed hurt all
the time? People's arms it needs to get hurt. In
the eighties and the nineties, everybody's arms are hurt now.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like I said.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Earlier, Catfish Hunter pitched thirty complete games in nineteen seventy five,
and I don't recall him having more than occasional arm trouble.
What they what they thought back then was pitch these
guys till their arm falls off. Some of them it won't.
In the strong survive. But now they don't feel they
can do that because they pay these guys so much.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But some of them, this is even schemes, who I
really like. I love schemes. These guys do these ridiculous
arm I don't know if it's arm care, if it's
working against your arm being functional to be a professional
baseball pitcher. You see what these guys do, what they're throwing,
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and these exercises and these accout like you have you
ever seen the things the scheme does just wronging up.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I wonder how much I wonder.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I wonder how many of those things are done so
we see him doing it?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
If you get my rift, No, well.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think that these guys, these are all young people.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And I also wonder if maybe it's part of the
problem skeens is velocity is dropped by a couple miles
per hour at twenty four. I mean, don't you have
to look at his method or the pitching coaches method
or whatever method is different from the last two years
when he dominated.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I agree, I agree, I just don't understand it. So
when you talk about first of all, I barely know
who Jared Jones even is, so it's he's in there
under the circumstances. Just let them down.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I forget.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You are saving these guys' arms for when they pitch
somewhere else with with very few exceptions. If the Pirates
have a good pitcher, he will go somewhere else to
get paid. And Skeens is definitely, uh gonna happen with that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I don't understand that you're saving your arm for September
when they're eliminated. I just I don't understand it. I
assume that Donnie Kelly is mandated to get these guys
out of here under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think that's correct. Thank you for the call. Oh wait,
let's go with your big finish.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
In the days, I was told what it means.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
To be a man. But now I've reached that age.
I tried to do all those things the best I can.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's go to Seth, Seth, you're all with Mark.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Good day, sir?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
What up mine?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah? Just do you think about this whole like disrespect
to the Stanley Cup with the guy's stupid dog and
kid like? Do you think there's a chance anybody legit
like can't step in, like the commissioner or somebody to
like undo that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think the commissioner would tell a rich owner
what to do. I think it was different back in
the eighties when they took Poklkin's dad's name off. I
think that dog's name is going to be on the
Stanley Cup forever and soil the greatest trophy in sports forever.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Thank you for the call. Seth up.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Next, gonna celebrate the forty the anniversary of the Carks
with singer guitarist Scott Blaze here on one oh five
to nine.
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Speaker 8 (17:19):
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and Morocco played the Santradoo at Poor Eastern in Foxborough.
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Speaker 2 (17:43):
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Speaker 9 (17:44):
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Speaker 1 (17:54):
I'm not sure, just big and it's soft, and I
use a bunch of pillows and I swore the XA
one oh five nine it's the fortieth anniversary of the
legendary Pittsburgh band joining me now to talk about it.
From the Carks, It's singer guitarist Scott Blasey. Scott, thanks
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for taking the time and congrats on forty years. How
long did it take before you guys became convinced this
could be a long term endeavor, let alone forty years.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, Mark, thanks for having me on, Buddy, It's good
to talk to you. Nineteen ninety one, Man Penny on
the Floor got played on WDVE, started getting radio play
around the region, We started hitting the road, quit our
day jobs, and that was it. We never looked back.
But really, up until that point, I wasn't really sure
if this was going to fly or not.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
No, it's funny because you mentioned being played on DVE
and for a Pittsburgh band, given the legendary nature of
that station, that really is all it takes, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It really was, And that's all Gene Romano. I'm sure
you know. Gene, Yeah, you know, it was his his decision.
We didn't have you know, we weren't lobbying or anything.
He just he liked the band, He liked the song,
and you know, it was his decision to put it
in pretty heavy rotation, and it made all the difference
in the world. I mean, we went from playing to
one hundred people at the decade to selling aut Graffiti
six hundred people. We thought that was as big as
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it was going to get.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The most amazing thing about the Clarks to me is,
you've been the same four guys for forty years.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That never happens. How'd you pull that off?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't know, man, We just you know, we've had
our ups and downs. There's certainly been times when we
haven't gotten along all the best. But at this point,
you know, we're just really grateful to still be together,
still be doing it, still be healthy, and we're the
best of friends, like brothers, and just just thankful to
be on stage together and still making music.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's funny because when I go backstage to see bands
I know, like I know Red Beach and I know
you do too, like his career White Snake. Every time
I go backstage, I induced myself.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
To new guys. You know, it just it just changes
so much.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
With the Clarks, it's the same guys and and that
is almost impossible to pull off in rock and roll.
I've always been curious, Scott, how's the songwriting work with
the Clarks Who does what? Because to me, that's the
toughest part of all this for any band.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Right when we started, there was just four guys in
a basement in the case of beer and somebody throwing
out ideas and us just jamming. And over the years
Greg started to write songs. I started to write songs.
So that's kind of how it works now. You know,
I'll write something and or Greg will write something. We'll
bring it into the band. Everybody has their ideas, everybody
kind of has their own part, but usually the songwriter
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sort of has the last say and and now that
that's how it kind of works. And we work with
a producer, Sean McDonald, who's very hands on. He's got
a lot of great ideas. So there's other other cooks
in the kitchen too.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Is it often the case that one guy will have
one idea, another guy of another and you kind of
piece it together. That's how songs sometimes, some songs for
every band and you guys do sound like two songs
within the song.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I mean that in the best possible.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Way, right, Yeah, that's happened a number of times over
our career.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
As a matter of.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Fact, better off without you right, Rob wrote wrote the rift. Ah,
I had the chorus, and we kept saying, dude finished
the song and he couldn't come up with the verses,
and we were recording it, and I took it home
over Thanksgiving and came up with those verses and we
just put the two things together and it just worked.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, what's your favorite Clark song and why.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I really love Honestly, I really love Flame. It's on
the Let It Go album. It's just got a great vibe.
It's just one of my favorite songs. I love it
very much. I'm Born Too Late it's another favorite. I
think that was a high watermark for me as a songwriter.
And Irene off the Feathers and Bones album is one
of my favorites too.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now if I had to pick mine, And when I
saw you play solo acoustic lately, you open with it
and I loved it as mercury that that song just
sores And I think it's a little unique within your catalog,
don't you, Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I do it leans a little towards the country side
that we sometimes go in that direction. One of my
favorite songs I play it at all of my solo shows,
and it's really an homage to my hometown of Connellsville,
Pennsylvania too.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
What would you say is the fans' favorite song? What
still gets the best reaction forty years later?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Penny on the Floor. Man, it's amazing it's turned into
this western Pennsylvania folk song. You know, I'll do solo shows,
and you know there's occasions where I'll play at a
venue and maybe maybe there's people not paying attention as
much as I might like. And as soon as I
play that song, all heads heads turned and I see
people singing along and it just gets quiet. I'd have
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to say that's probably number one.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Now, what's the forty year stuff been?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You did a concert at City Hall, which must have
been crazy, and there was an official Carks Day in
the city of Pittsburgh, right, that was.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
A really special day. Mayor Corey O'Connor was so gracious
to invite us to perform in his office. First time
there's ever been a little mini concert, little music concert
in the in the Mayor's office. Just a really cool thing,
and you know, our families came and it was just
just a cool event. Everybody thought it was a lot
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of fun.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Then you had the big show at Stage AE, the
official fortieth anniversary show, packed TOAs that must have felt
really good. Like you said, you started out in front
of one hundred people and.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Now this, yeah, that was a really special show. We
had a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Weather and.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Huge crowd. I mean it basically doubled attendance from our
past years there. You know, we do that show every year.
But there was just a great vibe in the air.
And I think the confluence of a lot of different
things being having better off with value being on the
pit sort of raised the profile a little bit and
certainly certainly the fortieth anniversary of the band. And so
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it was a great night. Lots of fans and just
a good vibe all the way around.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What's the smallest crowd you ever played in front of?
Because uh, that that that usually a funny story comes
from that.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Oh, I got a great story. We played at a
club down in Washington, d C. And there was nobody there.
And this was early on in our career and so
he didn't have you know, a lot of out of
town fans yet, and you know, we couldn't figure out
why there wasn't anybody there. We thought, well, we'd sort
of had a little bit of advertising. We looked in
the city paper and the owner was of Middle Eastern
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descent and he misunderstood our name and he advertised the
Clogs Clogs instead of the Clerks.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it turns out the clubs weren't nearly as popular,
were they.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
The Clogs had no audience, so that we played to
a room of zero except for the staff there. And
then there's been a couple of times like that. You know,
we've on down South on tours and stuff and played
for five or ten people, and that's very humbling, but
hey man, that's and that's part of the part of
the gig.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
How would you classify the Clark somebody asked me that,
and I'm not sure I could come up with anything.
I've seen an alternative that's popular. I've seen Heartland whatever
that is. You mentioned your country leanings. How would you
classify your band?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well, Mark, I think really, I mean, I just call
this a rock and roll band. You know, I grew
up on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and and uh,
you know, there's there's there's what you call rock band.
But I think the role part of is is big.
You know, we have we have that time. Those times
are songs sort of lean towards country a little bit,
and so I just I just tell people we're a
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rock and roll band.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You mentioned Tom Petty, and I definitely hear that influence.
What other other musicians have influenced you in particular in
the band in general.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I don't know that Prince has necessarily influenced our music,
but he was huge for me when I was when
I was a kid growing up, right along with Tom Petty.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
As a matter of.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Fact, i'd put the Big Three from me when I
was nineteen eighty, I throwed Donnie Iris and the Cruisers
in there. I mean, I wasn't playing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Basketball in high school.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I had my boombox on the team bus and it
was Dan the Torpedoes, Prince Controversy and back on the
Streets by Donnie Iris, And you know, he's just he
was always a musical hero of mine, and then we
became good buddies after that. So you know, maybe i'd
even throw Donnie Iris into that influence mix.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
When I saw you play solo at Kenny Reggit's Place,
we talked about this briefly but refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What was your first concert?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Our first concert was the basement of Sigma conn The
first concert you saw?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
First concert I saw was Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
nineteen eighty Stanley Theater, August of nineteen eighty, Dan the
Torpedoes Tour. I was fifteen years old. My dad drove
me and three of my apps off on Liberty Avenue
in front of a head shop and said, how at
it boys, and walked in. Tommy Tuton was playing eight
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six seven five three zero nine Jenny and we walked
up and took our seats in the very last row
of the Stanley Theater. The lights went down, this cloud
of smoke came up and I was like, man, I've
never smelled that before, and I was hooked. Man, I
was like, these are my people.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The reason I asked is because I think you're really
shaped by the first couple concerts you see. For example,
I gotta be honest, I'm gonna pat myself on the back.
I think I have impeccicable musical taste. And my first
concert was Faces with Rod Stewart Ronnie Wood. I think
that launched me perfectly. Probably the same with you.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And Petty right, same with me and Petty And I
gotta tell you, Mark, the second concert I saw was
Ted NuGen at the Arena and Humble Yeah right and
Humble Pie with the opener. Dude, I was down on
the floor right in front of Steve Marriott and I'd
never seen that sort of bluesy English seventies hard rock thing.
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I was just blown away by them. I just came
out of that a huge Humble Pot fan.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Now, you guys play how many shows a year now?
Because you're all sixty something? I think you're sixty one
of memory serves. How long will you keep doing it?
Because I bet it's forever, as long as you can walk.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
As long as I can walk, And I'll sit on
stage on a stool as long as I can sing
and play guitar. Mark, I have no intention of ever stopping.
You know, as I get older, I'll probably be a
little more selective with when and where. But I'm just
so blessed and I love what I do. I can't
imagine ever not doing it. But the band plays, We
play around thirty five forty shows a year. We're gonna
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do a little more traveling this year, going out to Chicago,
going to the East Coast a little bit. But I
do a lot of solo gigs. I probably do eighty
or so solo gigs a year.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Two Scott, great stuff, great career, keep on doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Soon, Mark, Thanks buddy, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's Scott Blaizey.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Scott not going to be able to make the Power
Ballads Challenge this year, but that's okay because he's too
nice a guy, great evaluator, too nice a guy. It's
me and Rev. I think Rick Witkowski. We're trying to
get in as usual. I'll be the guy who puts
everybody on blast. Next Tommy Perfecto and I going to
talk about the Ballad of Jared Jones even more. One
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Speaker 1 (29:32):
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Speaker 2 (29:39):
You all listen. The X at one O five nine.
It's mad on the X It's time for the last word.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And I am still Mondo nutso that Jared Jones came
out of the game, no perfect game and Bart hit
that home run and the Pirates lost. Actually I'm not
nutso I'm not mad. I'm kind of amused because sop
same old Pirates. But let's talk to Tommy Perfecto and
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just bitch even more. Tom The worst thing is last night.
The Pirates lost after that big game on Tuesday by
Ryan O'Hearn, and it broke their momentum.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Absolutely, that's the biggest problem in Jones was pitching so
well in that game. Forget the perfect game aspect of it,
just keeping them in the game against a great team
like the Braves while their lineup was struggling. Even if
he had, you know, given up a hit or had
a walk and he wasn't perfect, I would have think
thought about throwing him back out there for that seventh inning,
just for getting you personally as a team over the
finish line and getting your fourth straight win.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, I talk about a team's DNA and that's so intangible,
but this is what I mean. Take it out Jones.
The Bart home run and you lose and get shut out.
After scoring twelve runs on Tuesday, after the huge game
by Ryan O'Hearn, those dominoes falling feel so indigenous to
the Pirates.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Yeah, it's just that same old yoyo act that they've
been doing, where get a little over five hundred, then
it's right back to five hundred again. And last night
brought him to a game over five hundred, so they're
trending in the wrong direction again. It's just it's a
team that never gains traction. That's something that you've said
since almost the end of April. It feels like you've
been banging on that and they're just screaming at us
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exactly what their record is, and we need to start
believing them.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're a five hundred ball club. The dope EGM Sherrington.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He should be glad about the Jones discussion because it
overshadows the Bart discussion. Trading Bart and keeping Dave this
is such a bad move. It came a cropper when
Bart hit that home run, and the Jones talk also
overshadows how badly they're mismanaging Leginski, who has been one
of their best relievers.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
The Bart thing is just too perfect, I mean, less
than two weeks later, comes back to panc Park and
hits the game winning home run against you. I was
saying when they traded him to the Braves that he'll
have some big October moment too, Mark, You know how
a lot of ex pirates do like he'll have some
big pinch hit home run or something to help the
Braves advance. Like it's just the story that it plays
out every single time. The Majinsky thing, though, I think
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he's appreciative of that camouflage more because they're just sorely
mismanaging him and the bullpen is such crap. He could
really be the thing that helps fix that. For the
most part, they just won't let him.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you think it's because they're mad at him because
he bitch when they pulled him from the rotation.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
But they're not mad at Jones for doing the same thing,
although they probably view Jones in a different light prospect
wise than they do Majinski. But he was a first
round pick, though, I think we forget about that, like
he ain't, you know, just some scrub prospect that made
it somehow to the Majors.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Get back to the catcher thing. Tom did you hear
Gorman from the trip yesterday on this show, he kept
talking about Davis and his great defense. Well, last night
Bart hit a home run and Davis won hit us.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
Yeah, and you know what, I kind of push back
on that a little bit because this year there's been
metrics that have said that Davis is not as good
of a defensive catcher as he has been in the past.
He's made some airs, pitch framing is all. He's been
the thing that he hangs his hat on. I don't
think that means much anymore. In a the team loses
their challenge. I guess that you can bring that back
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into the equation, but you're just relying on that to happen.
What if a team doesn't lose their challenges so it's minimized.
And I think he can get run on quite a
bit this year, So he's not even that great a defense.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I hate to, oh randalize Tom. Why don't we just
say he sucks?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Was it odd that Jones was very accepting of coming out.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean, you know, kind of in a snarky way,
but he said, yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
What it is is that how pitchers are wired these
days to just you know, I'm gonna throw X amount
of pitches and that's it for me, And I got
to be accepting.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Yeah, And do you also think that he's kind of
protective of his own arm as well, I mean, trying
to get that payday down the road, probably with another reason.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Protective of his own arm on the given night in
expense of a perfect game.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Then he's no competitor.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
And I think that baseball has just completely lost a
real key part of what made it so great.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh Yeah, Like we talked about earlier, it said goodbye
to oh Man. I will say this, I do believe
that every time Jones open his mouth, he proves he's
a jerk off.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And I kind of got that again after last night.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
The worst part is, I really do feel like Jones
could have finished the perfect game, at least a no hitter.
He had total command. The Braves didn't have a chance,
and that's the Braves.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
The Braves didn't have a chance. His velocity was going
down a bit. By the way, how refreshing was it
to see somebody in the Pirates uniform as a starter
pop one hundred a lot early in games? I mean
he was going one hundred and one oh one very consistently.
Then around the fifth or sixth that was like ninety seven,
ninety eight. That's still pretty damn fast. That's still gonna
be able to get the job done. I really would
have loved to see him have it at the chance.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When you leave him in and the minute he gives
up a hit you pull out. He's done exactly. So
I just don't understand, and he seems.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The only way you're taking a real risk is if
he finishes the perfect game, and then it's a perfect game.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
And how can you not trust the surgery at this point?
Right that that it was a success. At least so far,
he's been fine. In the eight starts this year since
coming back, he's hitting one hundred. As I just referenced
on the gun, he's back, his arm is at full strength.
Tommy John's successfully done. I've drawn two conclusions.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
We will see another perfect game in or no hitter
in MLB.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's happened.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think the last one of I don't know which
one was twenty twenty three. And that's because occasionally a
manager is gonna let a pitcher do it, or maybe
it's some multi pitcher thing which had no chance of
happening last night with that Pirate's bullpen. And I'm also
concluding the Pirates won't make the playoffs they are and
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it's been confirmed again the Kings of the False Dawn
they have no sustain alrighty, then tomorrow's a Freaky Friday.
I sound like an FMDJ Freaky Friday tomorrow on the
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Speaker 2 (36:13):
S M, Pittsburgh and iHeart Radio Station Guaranteed Human
Yeah, I'm just pissed about last night. Jones get lifted,
Bart hitting the home run. The bullpen blows up today
and people say they got to get bullpen help. Well,
I'm afraid I've bilked some bad news. They're not gonna
add anything significant between here and the trade deadline effect
right now. Right now, I think it's fifty to fifty
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they trade Brandon Lyle, and I'd be more militant about
getting the bullpen help if they would make better use
of the bullpen they got. I'm gonna keep coming back
Tom Leginski. He's been one of their best pictures in
a bulk relief role, in a low leverage role. But
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the numbers don't lie, and they say Leginski is one
of the pirates best pictures. And he goes in Tuesday
night at garbage time, and then he wasn't available the
last two nights, well, last night and today when they
could have used them. Like I said earlier, Joan six
perfect innings last night, Lajinsky two perfect innings Tuesday when
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it didn't matter. Transfer those two perfect innings.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
To last night.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Maybe you get a better result, maybe you get a
three way perfect game. And god knows, I like a
three way, although I'm a little too old for that
sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Now I defend Donnie Kelly.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think he's probably not a very good manager, the
way Catcher's been handled, the way he does everything by Rote,
not using Leginski right the bullpen, obviously being uncomfortable, not
knowing when a guy's gonna come in.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I've given him the benefit of the dop, but perhaps
I've been wrong. And it depends on the day though,
because one minute people are crediting Kelly if they win
a game, and now it's fired Donnie Kelly, Ben Sherrington.
We've been talking about the great acquisitions he made and
law and o'hearne, But why want he help the bullpen?
And the answer to that is not, he won't spend more.
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And if you're gonna get help, you got four key
position players, four decent bats out right now actually decent
or better with Cruise, Griffin, Horwitz, and now Andy ain't
gonna get no help. I see people saying, let's make
a big trade. Let's trade somebody on Twitter, O'Neil Cruise
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for Mason Miller. Yeah, they're not gonna do that. They're
not gonna do anything. The goal ain't to win. Ain't
you figured that out yet? The goal ain't to win.
The goal was to keep you hooked by being just
good enough. They feed you just enough so you know
you're hungry. A three three four one two WXDX. Let's
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go to our good friend, the Hebrew hammer hammer Yuck shamash.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Hey, yuck shamash mark the game last night.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Embody is what's wrong with sports?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And what I mean by that is is were developed
or invented to entertain the fans.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
In all the coaches.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
And the gms, they think like they're preparing for the
Battle of the Bulge.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So Jared Jones, I don't care what happens to his elbow.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
He makes a bunch of money.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I don't care what happens to his shoulder, none of it.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Go out and pitch and entertain.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
The fans well, especially the situation where a perfect game
is possible. You have total command and you've only thrown
seventy seven pitches. Now if you want to take him
out at the minute he concedes a hit.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
That I understand.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
But they don't care about the fans at all, and
they don't they think the fans always care about winning.
I guarantee you if you would have pulled the fans
last night at PNC and said, well, would you put
Jones's elbow at risk to try for a perfect game,
they would have all said yes. And the bottom line
is they're saving Jared Jones. They're making sure he's okay
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to pitch meaningless innings in September.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Yeah again.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I mean the whole thing was developed for the spectator
and the fan, and even in football, it's like, oh,
he got.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Twenty eight carries.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't care, he's not making twelve to fifteen an hour.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
He's making.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Even Jared Jones, it's set the rest of his life.
Who cares of his elbow explodes?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
I can't top that. That's your cue, yuk mush?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Was that like an explosion? I would rather baboom. Let's
go to Jason. Jason ask Mark anything? Oh no, we're
not doing that. But you still can't go ahead? Hello Jason, are.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
You on the air? Okay, screw you, Jason. Let's go
to Carl.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Hello Carl, Hey, Mark, I want to call and talk
about the Carolina Hurricanes.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
They're engraving on the Cup. I in the nineteen eighty
three eighty four season when the Oilers won.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
The owner there Pockington, his.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Dad's named and they and they and they exed it out.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It crossed it out. Yeah, and they crossed it out.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do you do you think that the.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
NHL league here would do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I think the NHL now is a lot more afraid
of these owners than that NHL was afraid of those owners.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
So no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And even if they did cross it out, you wouldn't
have the room to put the guys on it who
deserved it, the equipment manager and so forth.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It is a crime, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And and I want to give a shout out to
my my buddies, like Tags his staff, uh Dana Hinze
from Johnston, former equipment manager Steve.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Lattin who who I think.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I don't know where he retired to, maybe Carolina because
he was working for their minor league affiliated.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
At his last job.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But I've always had great relationships with those guys, Uh
poly d Don the arena at the late at Cagiano
going back. Just just great people and a part of
the team. If you're around it every day or is
off as I am every game, you know they're a
part of the team and deserve better than this dipstick
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in Carolina gave them.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Let's get Ryan.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Ryan.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You're on with Mark. Good day, Mark, I said, good day.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
A question for you on the World Cup, specifically the goaltenders.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
What dictates what colored shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
They can wear?
Speaker 5 (06:20):
It seems like they kind of vary across each team
does that.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
To wear. I don't think they're told.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I just think it has to differ from from both teams,
from the from the out jerseys for each team that
the field players are wearing. You know what I mean,
Like just so you are easily distinguishable by both teams
and for the referee sake as well. Gotcha.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
And one of the things I think.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I think the teams probably dictate. I think the teams
have schemes as I know Liverpool do for what goalie
jersey goes with what kit worn.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
In the field. Okay, thank you, Mark, thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I get more calls in calls are fun eight three
to three, four to one two WXDX. Do you feel
like the Pirates season is in jeopardy now despite them
being at five hundred? You know it's funny. I hear
like the B team and stuff. They should do this,
They should do that, they should do the other. And
it's always to an extreme that those guys speak in
extreme absolutes all the time for shock value, and it's
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working for them.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But the pirates ain't gonna get nothing.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
They'll make a token move and you'll blow it out
of proportion for how much the guy can help, but
he won't. They won't make the playoffs. That's where this
is headed. That's where this has always been headed. And
at one point they had a chance, but the bullpen
there not to be a lot worse than thought. Skiing sucks,
let's face it, compared to what he should be and
what they needed to be.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Skien sucks.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And now these four guys are hurt and they're not
getting help if they're not gonna help right now, right now,
when they need it, right now, when it's still there
to be made the playoffs, right now, when they can
use it. If they won't get help with those four
bats out and the bullpen and Skiing's sucking, what makes
you think that they help in three weeks? What makes
you think they're getting help in three weeks at that
point would do any good? But you're all marks man.
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They know that, they know that they know your suckers,
they know you're stupid, they know you're loyal to a
degree of dumbness, but not too many of you because
they still rank what like twenty seven in the league
in attendants. But they get enough so that they make
a ton of money and they're not gonna spend more.
You don't get that long last time? Can you not
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get that? The answer is because your dumb everyone's accusing me.
They get your causing because they love to talk to you.
At one O five ninety X.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
It's so woody what you need.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
When you got a young trophy white owes money that
I can't even quote the big o'bowski right goodbye t Exe.
We got Scott Blaze of the Carks at the bottom
of the Hour of the Cark celebrating their fortieth anniversary.
Truly a phenomenal Pitsburgh band, right up there with Donnie
Iris Redbeach, great Pittsbury musicians over the last four decades.
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But right now we're talking about the pirates and the
Hebrew Hammer inspired me.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
A great deal with what he just said.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I hate to admit that, in fact it pains me,
but he did. And I ask you the question you
can answer inn eight three three four to one two WXDX.
Do you care if Jared Jones lives or dies? And
that might be stated a bit strongly, but you get
the idea. Do you put his welfare? Do you as
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a fan care more about his welfare, his health, his
career then you do witnessing him pitch a perfect game,
then you do the Pirates winning.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
I don't care if Jared Jones's elbow explodes, if his
right arm gets amputated, if his elbow inverts like a
bird's leg. I want the Pirates to win and get
in the playoffs, and I want to see big moments.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Like a perfect game or the pursuit thereof.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Even him staying in and giving up a hit, the
moment that the hit is surrendered and the perfect Game dies,
that's something that's a big moment, The tension up to
the release.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
When they get a hit.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Him getting yanked out of the game is the absolute
worst case scenario. It defines anti climactic. We were denied
even him blowing the perfect Game. Instead we had to
see the catcher they should have kept be traded hit
a two run home run and beat him. So I
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ask you as a fan, Why do you care about
Jared Jones's career or his welfare or making sure he
can pitch meaningless innings in September? F that and f
him here. We are now entertain us. What are you
waiting for? It's a team that hasn't won a playoff
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series since nineteen seventy nine, hasn't been in the postseason
since twenty fifteen, and you're playing along when the dim
wit manager from Libo says, well, we gotta think about
the future. What future? F you with the future. What's
the last time the future got realized? Why can't the
future be now? Get that some bitch beck out there,
and if his arm falls off, pick it up. He's
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got a spare. Let's go to Marty.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Marty, you're on with double M. Hey Mark, good day,
I said, good day, Hey Mark.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
Basically I agree they should be out have them out
there trying to win every game possible. And that's the
bottom line, as you know, is why now the parts
will never win doing that, and they're not gonna ever
win a world.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
My point is like, if you tell Jared Jones to
go back out there, he's got to, and if he
gets hurt.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
So what we got four guys hurt?
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Now, why are you concern about this guy who you
paid for free last year when he got when he
got hurt?
Speaker 6 (12:21):
I agree with you on that's that's the.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And I guarantee, I guarantee you. Have you ever heard
Jared Jones talk to the media. No, he's an ass,
And I guarantee if an average fan met him out
and about that, they would think he was an ass too.
Yet because we buy the jersey with the guy's name
and number on it. And I don't know if Jones
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is on social media, but but you know, we think
we know them because we follow them. That that we're
invested in these guys careers.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I am not. Now Am I invested in Sid's career? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Because he's been here two decades and he's won three
Stanley Cupps.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
He's a guy that's earned my concern. Jaron Jones hasn't
earned my concern. The Pirates is a team, haven't earned
my concern.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
There isn't one person on that team, including the owner,
as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Let's go now, boy, it's like the second time this
week we heard from each of the brothers. We had
the Hebrew hammer on before. Now it's my pleasure to
welcome the former star quarterback for Adams College. He is Stan,
the man gable, Stan Gravitas lasting Gravatas.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
So I'm a day and age in baseball where everybody
seems to know everything, and it's the analytics and everything's
figured out, and it's a pitch count, and let's get
this guy out here. Why is everybody's armed hurt all
the time? People's arms it needs to get hurt. In
the eighties and the nineties, everybody's arms are hurt now.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like I said.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Earlier, Catfish Hunter pitched thirty complete games in nineteen seventy five,
and I don't recall him having more than occasional arm trouble.
What they what they thought back then was pitch these
guys till their arm falls off. Some of them it won't.
In the strong survive. But now they don't feel they
can do that because they pay these guys so much.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
But some of them, this is even schemes, who I
really like. I love schemes. These guys do these ridiculous
arm I don't know if it's arm care, if it's
working against your arm being functional to be a professional
baseball pitcher. You see what these guys do, what they're throwing,
(14:45):
and these exercises and these accout like you have you
ever seen the things the scheme does just wronging up.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I wonder how much I wonder.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I wonder how many of those things are done so
we see him doing it?
Speaker 2 (14:59):
If you get my rift, No, well.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think that these guys, these are all young people.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
And I also wonder if maybe it's part of the
problem skeens is velocity is dropped by a couple miles
per hour at twenty four. I mean, don't you have
to look at his method or the pitching coaches method
or whatever method is different from the last two years
when he dominated.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I agree, I agree, I just don't understand it. So
when you talk about first of all, I barely know
who Jared Jones even is, so it's he's in there
under the circumstances. Just let them down.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I forget.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
You are saving these guys' arms for when they pitch
somewhere else with with very few exceptions. If the Pirates
have a good pitcher, he will go somewhere else to
get paid. And Skeens is definitely, uh gonna happen with that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I don't understand that you're saving your arm for September
when they're eliminated. I just I don't understand it. I
assume that Donnie Kelly is mandated to get these guys
out of here under those circumstances.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I think that's correct. Thank you for the call. Oh wait,
let's go with your big finish.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
In the days, I was told what it means.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
To be a man. But now I've reached that age.
I tried to do all those things the best I can.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Let's go to Seth, Seth, you're all with Mark.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Good day, sir?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
What up mine?
Speaker 7 (16:36):
Yeah? Just do you think about this whole like disrespect
to the Stanley Cup with the guy's stupid dog and
kid like? Do you think there's a chance anybody legit
like can't step in, like the commissioner or somebody to
like undo that.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
I don't think the commissioner would tell a rich owner
what to do. I think it was different back in
the eighties when they took Poklkin's dad's name off. I
think that dog's name is going to be on the
Stanley Cup forever and soil the greatest trophy in sports forever.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Thank you for the call. Seth up.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Next, gonna celebrate the forty the anniversary of the Carks
with singer guitarist Scott Blaze here on one oh five
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one oh five nine it's the fortieth anniversary of the
legendary Pittsburgh band joining me now to talk about it.
From the Carks, It's singer guitarist Scott Blasey. Scott, thanks
(18:17):
for taking the time and congrats on forty years. How
long did it take before you guys became convinced this
could be a long term endeavor, let alone forty years.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Well, Mark, thanks for having me on, Buddy, It's good
to talk to you. Nineteen ninety one, Man Penny on
the Floor got played on WDVE, started getting radio play
around the region, We started hitting the road, quit our
day jobs, and that was it. We never looked back.
But really, up until that point, I wasn't really sure
if this was going to fly or not.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
No, it's funny because you mentioned being played on DVE
and for a Pittsburgh band, given the legendary nature of
that station, that really is all it takes, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
It really was, And that's all Gene Romano. I'm sure
you know. Gene, Yeah, you know, it was his his decision.
We didn't have you know, we weren't lobbying or anything.
He just he liked the band, He liked the song,
and you know, it was his decision to put it
in pretty heavy rotation, and it made all the difference
in the world. I mean, we went from playing to
one hundred people at the decade to selling aut Graffiti
six hundred people. We thought that was as big as
(19:16):
it was going to get.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
The most amazing thing about the Clarks to me is,
you've been the same four guys for forty years.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
That never happens. How'd you pull that off?
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I don't know, man, We just you know, we've had
our ups and downs. There's certainly been times when we
haven't gotten along all the best. But at this point,
you know, we're just really grateful to still be together,
still be doing it, still be healthy, and we're the
best of friends, like brothers, and just just thankful to
be on stage together and still making music.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
It's funny because when I go backstage to see bands
I know, like I know Red Beach and I know
you do too, like his career White Snake. Every time
I go backstage, I induced myself.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
To new guys. You know, it just it just changes
so much.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
With the Clarks, it's the same guys and and that
is almost impossible to pull off in rock and roll.
I've always been curious, Scott, how's the songwriting work with
the Clarks Who does what? Because to me, that's the
toughest part of all this for any band.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Right when we started, there was just four guys in
a basement in the case of beer and somebody throwing
out ideas and us just jamming. And over the years
Greg started to write songs. I started to write songs.
So that's kind of how it works now. You know,
I'll write something and or Greg will write something. We'll
bring it into the band. Everybody has their ideas, everybody
kind of has their own part, but usually the songwriter
(20:39):
sort of has the last say and and now that
that's how it kind of works. And we work with
a producer, Sean McDonald, who's very hands on. He's got
a lot of great ideas. So there's other other cooks
in the kitchen too.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Is it often the case that one guy will have
one idea, another guy of another and you kind of
piece it together. That's how songs sometimes, some songs for
every band and you guys do sound like two songs
within the song.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I mean that in the best possible.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Way, right, Yeah, that's happened a number of times over
our career.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
As a matter of.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Fact, better off without you right, Rob wrote wrote the rift. Ah,
I had the chorus, and we kept saying, dude finished
the song and he couldn't come up with the verses,
and we were recording it, and I took it home
over Thanksgiving and came up with those verses and we
just put the two things together and it just worked.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, what's your favorite Clark song and why.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I really love Honestly, I really love Flame. It's on
the Let It Go album. It's just got a great vibe.
It's just one of my favorite songs. I love it
very much. I'm Born Too Late it's another favorite. I
think that was a high watermark for me as a songwriter.
And Irene off the Feathers and Bones album is one
of my favorites too.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now if I had to pick mine, And when I
saw you play solo acoustic lately, you open with it
and I loved it as mercury that that song just
sores And I think it's a little unique within your catalog,
don't you, Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I do it leans a little towards the country side
that we sometimes go in that direction. One of my
favorite songs I play it at all of my solo shows,
and it's really an homage to my hometown of Connellsville,
Pennsylvania too.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
What would you say is the fans' favorite song? What
still gets the best reaction forty years later?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Penny on the Floor. Man, it's amazing it's turned into
this western Pennsylvania folk song. You know, I'll do solo shows,
and you know there's occasions where I'll play at a
venue and maybe maybe there's people not paying attention as
much as I might like. And as soon as I
play that song, all heads heads turned and I see
people singing along and it just gets quiet. I'd have
(22:51):
to say that's probably number one.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Now, what's the forty year stuff been?
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You did a concert at City Hall, which must have
been crazy, and there was an official Carks Day in
the city of Pittsburgh, right, that was.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
A really special day. Mayor Corey O'Connor was so gracious
to invite us to perform in his office. First time
there's ever been a little mini concert, little music concert
in the in the Mayor's office. Just a really cool thing,
and you know, our families came and it was just
just a cool event. Everybody thought it was a lot
(23:24):
of fun.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Then you had the big show at Stage AE, the
official fortieth anniversary show, packed TOAs that must have felt
really good. Like you said, you started out in front
of one hundred people and.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Now this, yeah, that was a really special show. We
had a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Weather and.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Huge crowd. I mean it basically doubled attendance from our
past years there. You know, we do that show every year.
But there was just a great vibe in the air.
And I think the confluence of a lot of different
things being having better off with value being on the
pit sort of raised the profile a little bit and
certainly certainly the fortieth anniversary of the band. And so
(24:01):
it was a great night. Lots of fans and just
a good vibe all the way around.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
What's the smallest crowd you ever played in front of?
Because uh, that that that usually a funny story comes
from that.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Oh, I got a great story. We played at a
club down in Washington, d C. And there was nobody there.
And this was early on in our career and so
he didn't have you know, a lot of out of
town fans yet, and you know, we couldn't figure out
why there wasn't anybody there. We thought, well, we'd sort
of had a little bit of advertising. We looked in
the city paper and the owner was of Middle Eastern
(24:36):
descent and he misunderstood our name and he advertised the
Clogs Clogs instead of the Clerks.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
And it turns out the clubs weren't nearly as popular,
were they.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
The Clogs had no audience, so that we played to
a room of zero except for the staff there. And
then there's been a couple of times like that. You know,
we've on down South on tours and stuff and played
for five or ten people, and that's very humbling, but
hey man, that's and that's part of the part of
the gig.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
How would you classify the Clark somebody asked me that,
and I'm not sure I could come up with anything.
I've seen an alternative that's popular. I've seen Heartland whatever
that is. You mentioned your country leanings. How would you
classify your band?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Well, Mark, I think really, I mean, I just call
this a rock and roll band. You know, I grew
up on Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and and uh,
you know, there's there's there's what you call rock band.
But I think the role part of is is big.
You know, we have we have that time. Those times
are songs sort of lean towards country a little bit,
and so I just I just tell people we're a
(25:42):
rock and roll band.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You mentioned Tom Petty, and I definitely hear that influence.
What other other musicians have influenced you in particular in
the band in general.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I don't know that Prince has necessarily influenced our music,
but he was huge for me when I was when
I was a kid growing up, right along with Tom Petty.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
As a matter of.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Fact, i'd put the Big Three from me when I
was nineteen eighty, I throwed Donnie Iris and the Cruisers
in there. I mean, I wasn't playing.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Basketball in high school.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I had my boombox on the team bus and it
was Dan the Torpedoes, Prince Controversy and back on the
Streets by Donnie Iris, And you know, he's just he
was always a musical hero of mine, and then we
became good buddies after that. So you know, maybe i'd
even throw Donnie Iris into that influence mix.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
When I saw you play solo at Kenny Reggit's Place,
we talked about this briefly but refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
What was your first concert?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Our first concert was the basement of Sigma conn The
first concert you saw?
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (26:44):
First concert I saw was Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
nineteen eighty Stanley Theater, August of nineteen eighty, Dan the
Torpedoes Tour. I was fifteen years old. My dad drove
me and three of my apps off on Liberty Avenue
in front of a head shop and said, how at
it boys, and walked in. Tommy Tuton was playing eight
(27:05):
six seven five three zero nine Jenny and we walked
up and took our seats in the very last row
of the Stanley Theater. The lights went down, this cloud
of smoke came up and I was like, man, I've
never smelled that before, and I was hooked. Man, I
was like, these are my people.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
The reason I asked is because I think you're really
shaped by the first couple concerts you see. For example,
I gotta be honest, I'm gonna pat myself on the back.
I think I have impeccicable musical taste. And my first
concert was Faces with Rod Stewart Ronnie Wood. I think
that launched me perfectly. Probably the same with you.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
And Petty right, same with me and Petty And I
gotta tell you, Mark, the second concert I saw was
Ted NuGen at the Arena and Humble Yeah right and
Humble Pie with the opener. Dude, I was down on
the floor right in front of Steve Marriott and I'd
never seen that sort of bluesy English seventies hard rock thing.
(28:00):
I was just blown away by them. I just came
out of that a huge Humble Pot fan.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Now, you guys play how many shows a year now?
Because you're all sixty something? I think you're sixty one
of memory serves. How long will you keep doing it?
Because I bet it's forever, as long as you can walk.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
As long as I can walk, And I'll sit on
stage on a stool as long as I can sing
and play guitar. Mark, I have no intention of ever stopping.
You know, as I get older, I'll probably be a
little more selective with when and where. But I'm just
so blessed and I love what I do. I can't
imagine ever not doing it. But the band plays, We
play around thirty five forty shows a year. We're gonna
(28:37):
do a little more traveling this year, going out to Chicago,
going to the East Coast a little bit. But I
do a lot of solo gigs. I probably do eighty
or so solo gigs a year.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Two Scott, great stuff, great career, keep on doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Soon, Mark, Thanks buddy, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
That's Scott Blaizey.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Scott not going to be able to make the Power
Ballads Challenge this year, but that's okay because he's too
nice a guy, great evaluator, too nice a guy. It's
me and Rev. I think Rick Witkowski. We're trying to
get in as usual. I'll be the guy who puts
everybody on blast. Next Tommy Perfecto and I going to
talk about the Ballad of Jared Jones even more. One
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It's mad on the X It's time for the last word.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
And I am still Mondo nutso that Jared Jones came
out of the game, no perfect game and Bart hit
that home run and the Pirates lost. Actually I'm not
nutso I'm not mad. I'm kind of amused because sop
same old Pirates. But let's talk to Tommy Perfecto and
(30:06):
just bitch even more. Tom The worst thing is last night.
The Pirates lost after that big game on Tuesday by
Ryan O'Hearn, and it broke their momentum.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (30:16):
Absolutely, that's the biggest problem in Jones was pitching so
well in that game. Forget the perfect game aspect of it,
just keeping them in the game against a great team
like the Braves while their lineup was struggling. Even if
he had, you know, given up a hit or had
a walk and he wasn't perfect, I would have think
thought about throwing him back out there for that seventh inning,
just for getting you personally as a team over the
finish line and getting your fourth straight win.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, I talk about a team's DNA and that's so intangible,
but this is what I mean. Take it out Jones.
The Bart home run and you lose and get shut out.
After scoring twelve runs on Tuesday, after the huge game
by Ryan O'Hearn, those dominoes falling feel so indigenous to
the Pirates.
Speaker 9 (30:59):
Yeah, it's just that same old yoyo act that they've
been doing, where get a little over five hundred, then
it's right back to five hundred again. And last night
brought him to a game over five hundred, so they're
trending in the wrong direction again. It's just it's a
team that never gains traction. That's something that you've said
since almost the end of April. It feels like you've
been banging on that and they're just screaming at us
(31:19):
exactly what their record is, and we need to start
believing them.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
They're a five hundred ball club. The dope EGM Sherrington.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
He should be glad about the Jones discussion because it
overshadows the Bart discussion. Trading Bart and keeping Dave this
is such a bad move. It came a cropper when
Bart hit that home run, and the Jones talk also
overshadows how badly they're mismanaging Leginski, who has been one
of their best relievers.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
The Bart thing is just too perfect, I mean, less
than two weeks later, comes back to panc Park and
hits the game winning home run against you. I was
saying when they traded him to the Braves that he'll
have some big October moment too, Mark, You know how
a lot of ex pirates do like he'll have some
big pinch hit home run or something to help the
Braves advance. Like it's just the story that it plays
out every single time. The Majinsky thing, though, I think
(32:07):
he's appreciative of that camouflage more because they're just sorely
mismanaging him and the bullpen is such crap. He could
really be the thing that helps fix that. For the
most part, they just won't let him.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Do you think it's because they're mad at him because
he bitch when they pulled him from the rotation.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
But they're not mad at Jones for doing the same thing,
although they probably view Jones in a different light prospect
wise than they do Majinski. But he was a first
round pick, though, I think we forget about that, like
he ain't, you know, just some scrub prospect that made
it somehow to the Majors.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Get back to the catcher thing. Tom did you hear
Gorman from the trip yesterday on this show, he kept
talking about Davis and his great defense. Well, last night
Bart hit a home run and Davis won hit us.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
Yeah, and you know what, I kind of push back
on that a little bit because this year there's been
metrics that have said that Davis is not as good
of a defensive catcher as he has been in the past.
He's made some airs, pitch framing is all. He's been
the thing that he hangs his hat on. I don't
think that means much anymore. In a the team loses
their challenge. I guess that you can bring that back
(33:07):
into the equation, but you're just relying on that to happen.
What if a team doesn't lose their challenges so it's minimized.
And I think he can get run on quite a
bit this year, So he's not even that great a defense.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I hate to, oh randalize Tom. Why don't we just
say he sucks?
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Was it odd that Jones was very accepting of coming out.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I mean, you know, kind of in a snarky way,
but he said, yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It is.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
What it is is that how pitchers are wired these
days to just you know, I'm gonna throw X amount
of pitches and that's it for me, And I got
to be accepting.
Speaker 9 (33:38):
Yeah, And do you also think that he's kind of
protective of his own arm as well, I mean, trying
to get that payday down the road, probably with another reason.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Protective of his own arm on the given night in
expense of a perfect game.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Then he's no competitor.
Speaker 9 (33:51):
And I think that baseball has just completely lost a
real key part of what made it so great.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Oh Yeah, Like we talked about earlier, it said goodbye
to oh Man. I will say this, I do believe
that every time Jones open his mouth, he proves he's
a jerk off.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And I kind of got that again after last night.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
The worst part is, I really do feel like Jones
could have finished the perfect game, at least a no hitter.
He had total command. The Braves didn't have a chance,
and that's the Braves.
Speaker 9 (34:20):
The Braves didn't have a chance. His velocity was going
down a bit. By the way, how refreshing was it
to see somebody in the Pirates uniform as a starter
pop one hundred a lot early in games? I mean
he was going one hundred and one oh one very consistently.
Then around the fifth or sixth that was like ninety seven,
ninety eight. That's still pretty damn fast. That's still gonna
be able to get the job done. I really would
have loved to see him have it at the chance.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
When you leave him in and the minute he gives
up a hit you pull out. He's done exactly. So
I just don't understand, and he seems.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The only way you're taking a real risk is if
he finishes the perfect game, and then it's a perfect game.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
And how can you not trust the surgery at this point?
Right that that it was a success. At least so far,
he's been fine. In the eight starts this year since
coming back, he's hitting one hundred. As I just referenced
on the gun, he's back, his arm is at full strength.
Tommy John's successfully done. I've drawn two conclusions.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
We will see another perfect game in or no hitter
in MLB.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
It's happened.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
I think the last one of I don't know which
one was twenty twenty three. And that's because occasionally a
manager is gonna let a pitcher do it, or maybe
it's some multi pitcher thing which had no chance of
happening last night with that Pirate's bullpen. And I'm also
concluding the Pirates won't make the playoffs they are and
(35:43):
it's been confirmed again the Kings of the False Dawn
they have no sustain alrighty, then tomorrow's a Freaky Friday.
I sound like an FMDJ Freaky Friday tomorrow on the
X Good Talk See out there one oh five nine
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Betrayal Weekly is back for a new season. Every Thursday, Betrayal Weekly shares first-hand accounts of broken trust, shocking deceptions, and the trail of destruction they leave behind. Hosted by Andrea Gunning, this weekly ongoing series digs into real-life stories of betrayal and the aftermath. From stories of double lives to dark discoveries, these are cautionary tales and accounts of resilience against all odds. From the producers of the critically acclaimed Betrayal series, Betrayal Weekly drops new episodes every Thursday. If you would like to share your story, you can reach out to the Betrayal Team by emailing them at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Please join our Substack for additional exclusive content, curated book recommendations, and community discussions. Sign up FREE by clicking this link Beyond Betrayal Substack. Join our community dedicated to truth, resilience, and healing. Your voice matters! Be a part of our Betrayal journey on Substack.