May 11, 2026 • 35 mins
Mark talks about those rooting for failure it seems when it comes to Drew Allar, gives some great Pirate talk and is joined by Tim Benz
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, the Drew Aller thing.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know, you had people, including some media guys, going
on Twitter. They showed the video said look how clumsyest
footwork is. But then Denucci tweets right away he's executing
the drill exactly as required. The first STEP's supposed to
be exaggerated to set up your rhythm in a game situation.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why do people want him to fail?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I want to succeed. I know he's gonna I know
he's the next big thing. I know he saves the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I know it's.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm not right about that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, at least I didn't fictionalize Rogers being in town
this weekend. So that's something we've been talking about. The
NHL Playoffs, some the final going to be Carolina versus Colorado,
although Ryan Malone predicted Montreal versus Minnesota, and Minnesota could
derail Colorado in that series. Got to win Game four,
(01:03):
got to get it back to even Buffalo and Montreal
are gonna wear each other out. That is a fast
series so far, and Carolina has already won their series,
swept the Flyers, which is great. Saint Fredericton's Day was Saturday.
What Carolina won game for in overtime. Saint Frederickson's Day
is the holiday that marks the day each year when
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the Flyers cannot win the Stanley Cup, this time for
a fifty first straight year. I did celebrate, but it's
a bit muted because the Flyers did beat the Penguins.
But like I said, fifty one years without a Cup,
that's great. And the Penguins have five Cups to Philadelphia's two,
which is also great. Carolina is a juggernaut in not
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even getting a ton of scoring from the top line.
Svetchnikoff has one goal. I guess he can't make sveetch happen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Seth Jarvis only has one goal, but stank Covid has seven,
Aha has three, and I guarantee he smells great. And
the Hurricanes have allowed just ten goals in eight playoff games,
have never allowed more than two goals in any one game,
and that is a recipe for winning in the playoffs.
My official rooting interest, even though the Canadians are my
(02:17):
mistress team, I'm rooting for Stalls. He to win a
Cup of thirty seven after he first won one at
twenty with the Penguins.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That'd be absolutely terrific.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Now the Flyers will legit contend again before the Penguins do.
The Penguins are still a nostalgia act. We may have
that confirmed tomorrow when Dubas talks to the media, and
you know, if he has news on Malkin. I bet
it's that Malkin staying. And if that's the case, I
will be okay with that. I really will be okay
with that. I also have my eyes wide open if
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anybody wants to make up a case for Malkin staying
or going, I'd love to hear it in the sometime
during the rest of the show. Eight three, three, four
one two wa I wanted to trade Malkan in twenty thirteen.
It's a good thing they didn't. I also wanted to
trade him in twenty eighteen after the Penguins lost to
the Capitals in the second round, thereby denying a chance
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for a third straight Cup. If you trade the malk
And then you would probably have Barkoff and Gunsalin.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
The team right now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
But hey, everybody just loves Geno and I do too,
but I wish they had Barkoff and Malkin.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Pirates lost two out of three at San Francisco needed
to do better. Pirates lost that game yesterday and extra
innings needed to win that game.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Uh, what else do we got?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I love talking about that Human Centipede celebration twenty fifth
anniversary of Casper scoring on Hashik Penguins Eliminate the Sabers
and Maria's comeback here. Oh I remember that like it
was yesterday. I was so so happy. No I made
too many notes because the show's shorter. It is amazing
how many people want Ala to fail. I want to
get back to that for a second.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And how many thinks Aler versus Howard is an even competition.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It just isn't.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's third run versus sixth round. It's all the tools
against weak arm. But people want Alor to fail. Like
I just talked about with that video that got posted,
Why do you want Ala to fail? Like I said,
it's the pit thing. It's letting Penn State don but
let Aler do his thing, let McCarthy do his thing.
(04:35):
It's gonna work out. I'm telling you it's gonna work out.
Let's go to Donna in New Brighton, Donna or your
own with double m.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
H right, double M. I've just had two. Well on
good question ones and that the weird ones. I'll come
on TV. They always say it's.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The Premer the mier leg, but you always call it
the Premer.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, it is the Press. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think it can go either way. I think of
it had an E on the end, it would be Premiere.
But I think Premer is proper with no.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
E on the end. Oh, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
The other thing is, you know what, I'm worried about her.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
She's been real coffee lately.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know if it's the weather changing, she's been
real coffee, and she's been chronically real coffee. And she
coughed up a hairball the other day too. And I
hope she's okay. But let me tell you something. There
is no getting her to the vet. There is no.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Getting her to the vet. She fights like a wolverine.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
If she suspects you want her, no, it's it's actually
not funny at this point, Donna. If she even suspects
anything's up, she will. I've had her claw me on
my four arm to the point where I probably should
have got a couple of stitches. Wow, And you know what,
you know what's sad about that. I hate, I hate
to put it this way, but if she ever does
(05:50):
let me take her, it'll probably be something so.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Bad it's too late.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But I literally, like I always tell people, you need
to take her to the vet.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Pep peep. Okay, you try to take her.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I understand, you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The one thing I should try is throwing the towel
on her and make her do a burrito.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But she dodges the freaking tal What can I tell you?
Thank you for the call, Donham. We come back, We'll
talk a little more. Buco Baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Because I thought the Pirates at one time could contend
for the division. Because I didn't think the Nlcentra would
be that good. I'm not sure it is that good,
but another Cubs are and that's not good.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
One oh five.
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Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's disgusting that all people want to talk about is
the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Where's Rogers Hot Aler?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Rookie Camp? And I am interested in in Aler.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm not at all interested in Grandpa Game Manager, but
you do understand that the best it's going to lead
to is ten and seven again and no playoff win again.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You do understand what the ceiling is, which.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is why I don't get your interest in admittedly the
main issue of the road to that happening, but that
is what's going to happen, and I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It is all the B team talks about, period is
the quarterback situation. A lot of lying about it, but yeah,
they talk about it, and I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But I don't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I do it too much for my liking, and I
do it ten percent of what they do. The story
is what happens with Maulkin and the Penguins this summer.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Dube, what's going to talk tomorrow? We'll see what he says.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'll be there at noon out in Cranberry at the
Penguins practice facility. And the Pirates. Pirates lost two out
of three at San Francisco. They should have done better.
Lost yesterday and extra inning. Should have done better. And
the Cubs are a problem. The Chicago Cubs are in
first place in NL Central and they have two ten
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game winning.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Streaks already this year.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
The season's only one quarter finished, and they've already had
two winning streaks of ten games. I'd hate to have
it narrowed down to wild card bus by July fourth,
but that might well happen. It might have already happened.
Can the Cubs maintain it? I don't know that half
kid from Libo, he's got nine home runs. They do
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hit home runs that I'managa is pitching like an ace.
Their staff doesn't have schemes, but I'managa is close enough,
and it's deeper.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Probably maybe not. And if the Pirates would get a
wild card, you'd be happy me too. But the ironic
thing would be.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
When the roildcard round was only one game, two wild cards,
one game to get to the playoffs, proper. I love
that you had game seven right away to open the playoffs.
But when it was one game, the Pirates got beat
twice in a row by that guy, the pitcher, the ace,
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Bumgarner in fourteen and then Jake Ariet in fifteen didn't
score a run in either game. And now the Pirates
got that guy that'd be set up to win single
elimination wild card. But the wild card's best to three
and best of three is where an ace is the
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least useful. I think because single game, I mean, duh,
best of five he could pitch twice. Best of three
he can only pitch once. So that may be ironic,
But then again, I'm not quite sure, never have been
what exactly irony means. The Pirates are just good enough
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to create interesting debate. You can check out my column
a triple like I've mooted trading a starting pitcher for
third basement even as Nick Gonzalez is hitting three twenty
just under whatever, no power, but you know he's doing good,
and good on him. Good on Nick Gonzalez. But can
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he keep it up? I doubt it never has before.
Then again, you can have that one career that it's
not liar, like like Anthony Manta for the Penguine this year,
like Freddy Sanchez winning the bat and title for the
Pirates No. Six, but I do doubt it. Nick Conzalez
is twenty six, almost twenty seven, and by then you
are what you are unless he has that career year
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that outliar. But that's not how I bet the guys
who have hurt the Pirates the most, So far are
Cruising Reynolds. Look at O'Neill, Cruz, you were talking to
MVP a month ago, and then a month later his
average is dropped by one hundred points inside that time.
Reynolds has no home runs in twenty five games. Excuse
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me one, babe, Ruth. There one home run in twenty
five games. I think the guys who were hurting the
Pirates most are the established guys Cruise and Reynolds, not
to mention their yakaty sacks in the outfield. I look
at the Pirates and I still see a team that
just misses the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Would that be a crime?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, with skiens and to be wasting a third straight
year skiens, But what can they do to improve? I
wrote about that in my Call Him I Call Him today?
For the trip was kind of like a state of
the Pirates after one quarter of the season. And I mean,
you could bench Ozuna and I might or use him
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very selectively against lefties at DH. Otherwise, rotate DH between
Cruise and Reynolds. Make Mangam a regular and center field
because that would not certainly perfect your outfield defense, but
it would short up as long as he could run
Filepool to Foulepool, Like, look at that loss against San
fran Ryan O'Hearn botched a couple plays in the last inning,
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but he's a first baseman.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's the first baseman.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But among those three, here's your best defensive outfielder.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But he's a first baseman. So I find it hard
to blame him for those plays.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Although well, the one play he botched that double, but
then at the end they hit that single to right
field and the guy didn't break from third base and
he could have been thrown out forced play at home
nine to two. A little bit of Sean Casey Sean
Join just tomorrow would have been reminiscent when he got
thrown out seven to three. But I'm not could have
blamed O'Hearn for that. A guy hit the single to
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right field with the bases loaded, the game's over. So uh,
I don't know. I mean, I don't think the powers
can improve a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I think people are assuming Jared Jones is going
to come back like he had been.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's an awful big assumption.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
If I got the right offer for Jared Jones to
trade him, I'd figure okay, within a couple of years,
set Turnandez becomes at least him maybe better. And I
would trade Jones for somebody could help me. Now that's
the trade I would make, not Keller, because Keller's doing great,
even though he does traditionally collapse in the second half
of the season. So that is great pirate talk. You
might not think so, but it was. I got to
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talk about this. Bobby Cox passed away, managed the Atlanta
Breys for twenty five years, won fourteenth straight division titles,
only won the one World Series. He should have won more.
He had them great pitches, Maddox, Glavin Smoltz, et cetera.
Even Steve Avery, that young kid had a couple of
great years in that period. But Cox, here's what I
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love about Bobby Cox. He got ejected one hundred and
sixty one times one hundred and sixty one. That's one
game shy of a full season. And he would get
so mad like Earl Weaver dipped in, Billy Martin, madd
Cleland did sometimes only matter it was great theater.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Donny Kelly does okay, He.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Manages totally according to analytics, like when he pulled Bubba
after only eighty pitches yesterday, Like when he doesn't play
Lyle against left handed pitchers, although Devil's advocate, Lyle has
to get rest sometimes. But what if the Powers had
a truly elite manager like Francona, who we pretended the
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Pirates could have got him being from New Brighton at all,
But he's at Cincinnati instead. And the full disclosure, the
Reds did just blues eight straight. All right, we got
a little Penguins talk coming up next.
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Speaker 7 (15:24):
NBC has leaked a piece of the NFL schedule ahead
of its releases, saying how's the Giants ol hosts of
Cowboys to open Sunday Night Football. The Steelers and kicker
Chris Boswell agreed to terms on a four year, twenty
eight million dollar extension today that ties him as the
highest paid kicker in NFL history, And after finishing their
road trip with the loss of San Francisco, the Pirates
have today op then they'll open a home stand tomorrow
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against Colorado. I'm Scott David said, run a business and
not thinking about radio.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Think again, because people are listening to radio more today
than the comet mark.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yes, you're voice like week hector to my ear.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The last thing we need is a lot of loose talk.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I like it the X at one five nine.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I've been hitting awake in one eighty really hard, like
I don't. I don't observe it when I travel, so
I ate often for a loud although only had one
bad meal. I went to my first buffet in literally
ten or fifteen years because they had prime rib, and
I tried to convince myself I would just have the
prime rib and salad and vegetables. But I had a
couple of desserts too, a little chicken too that that's
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not bad. But other than that, I just ate ate
protein and vegetables. Didn't only gained like a palm back.
And I've lost like seven pounds this week because awake
in one eighty definitely works. But in a couple of weeks,
I'm going to Atlantic City ten days. To be exact,
Chefola Chefola cannot wait and I won't hold back. Well,
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I'm going twice because I'm there for four days. Wow,
yesterday was Mother's Day. I don't know if anybody saw.
I posted a photo of myself and my mom from
when I was very young, just like I think four
or five years old, me sitting on her lap. You know,
I still miss her every day. Went to Monicello's last
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night on Babcock, where I used to take her frequently
for Mother's Day, So that was a good time. You
know what I'd become addicted to, and I'm ashamed to
admit this. I become addicted to Starbucks. I used to
not be. I still like dunkin Donuts coffee, even like
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get Go coffee, but I got to tell you the
DCAF Americano is somebody who drinks DCAF.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's the best DCAF coffee. I've ever had the best
taste by.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Far, and you know you'll wait in the line, whether
it's inside or to drive through. But I have become,
late in life, a Starbucks convert, and might I add
a convert to coffee late life.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I didn't drink any coffee.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Until I was like late thirties, maybe even forty, and
for a while drank caffeine out the ying yang.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Now I do decaf.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I still have some caffeine if I can't get decaffeinated.
I'm not a fanatic about it. But yeah, so I've
become a Starbucks guy. We covered a lot of ground today,
I guess if not, who cares. But I'll tell you
a TV series I'm looking forward to watching. I saw
the first episode on WES. It's called Soccer's American Dream
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with the World Cup coming here this summer, and it's
the history of soccer very very quickly told. Like the
first episode covered from the beginning of the North American
Soccer League, which was like nineteen sixty eight, that's the
predecessor to MLS, and then it folded, I want to
say in eighty four, and then there's about five minutes
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on Major Indoor Soccer League the Pittsburgh Spirit, which I
worked with and covered two and it had a couple
of Spirit highlights. One they were talking about the immogry
of indoor soccer and they showed the Spirits Hot Legs entrance.
They had a promotion called hot Legs after the Rod
Stewart song and they would come out through this this
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neon tunnel to that song. So they showed that intro,
and then they showed a fight between Paul Child of
the Spirit, who I think listens to this show frequently
and Peter Miller from Cleveland and Shieldsey beat the crap
out of him and then kicked him for good measure.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Those were the days, I guess.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So yeah, check that out Soccer's American Dream on Weiss.
I think the second episode comes out tomorrow. I thought
people on Twitter giving me crap. Well, the Flyers beat
the Penguins. You can't be happy they lost.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm always happy when they lose, and especially happy we
had the double sweep. Sixers get swept like the day
after the Fliers get swept. A bad day in Philadelphia.
The Carolina Hurricane social media, they do stuff I wouldn't.
I wouldn't like rub it in if I were a
team's official social media because I can come back to
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haunt him. But the guy who does the Hurricanes just
sticking it to the Flyers. And I'm told that he's
a Pittsburgh native or she. I don't know he or
she bit, but that's what I'm told. I'm gonna look
into that. But there was one they showed this delicious
looking picture of a Philly cheese steak right after the
sweep was completed, and the captain was, Hey, Philly, do
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you want that win her with our tears? You gotta
love it. I'm next gonna talk to Tim Bench from
the trip. I'm Mark Madden one oh five ninety X.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
It's The Woody Show week mornings at six oh I
like it on the X.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Success takes everything you've got. What'd you make of how
that game ended?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It's a game they need to win.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The way you make the playoffs is to beat the
bad teams mercilessly, and.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They needed that win.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's easy to see that as the kind of win
that could haunt them if they just missed a wild
card at season's in. And that's not the only loss,
if it's typed. So far this season they've lost. Boy,
I could think of four or five games where I
feel they should have won and put those games in
the W column. And they're right on top of the Cubs,
who have already had two ten game winning streaks and
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might be the kind of team that can run away
with the division. So I thought it was not a
soul crushing loss. I don't know if you have those
in May, but potentially a damaging one.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It is funny, isn't it Like when they lose, they
tend to lose in the most dramatic fashion possible. They
always give you something to talk about all day after
a loss. They never just lose six to five. It's
always something cataclysmic. And now they lose.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, And I did a state of the Pirates column
that'll go up any minute on Trible Live dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And I don't see what fixers are there.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think they are what they are, which is a
borderline playoff team. They just make it or they just
miss it. I mean, they could rearrange their bullpen. I
think there's talent there that has yet to be realized
I definitely would ben Chozuna and use DHS to rotate
guys most especially Cruise and Reynolds, and get Mangam in
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the outfield for defense.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But other than that, what can it really change?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Maybe Jared Jones comes back, but after elbow surgery, there's
no guarantee what he'll be.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
You want him to be the bulk guy and replace
mczinsky in that role.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You see, that's a tough call because I think Mazinsky's
done just fine.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I might experiment with Jones later in the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I mean, I think he profiles great as a closer.
He doesn't seem to agree with that assessment. I don't
think the team does.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yet. I still think the team values him as a starter.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
War That's what's want with this team.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
This team always looks, Okay, what's best for this guy
in the long run. They need to look at what's
best for us to win right now and what's best
for them to win right now. Is I think Jones
in a role later in the game.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
In the bullpen, Yeah, I would. I don't know if
he's a later inning guy yet. I think he's more
of a bridge guy now. Coming back from that injury,
and if he accepts it, he excels in it, then
maybe you can put him in a later inning, higher
leverage role. I don't know how he's going to react
to something like that if that's the case, But.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Why do I care about how he reacts?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Because if he doesn't pitch well because he's sulky, then
you're defeating the purpose.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Then he's defeating his career.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's fine too.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, so I would just say, okay, here's what you do.
Do it and if you don't, good luck in a
journeyman's role. Bounced him on the league, Well, if they
want to, you'll be staking your claim to a guy
who doesn't do what it takes.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
All right, let me try to meet you in the
middle on this then all right.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So if he comes back and they try to make
him a starter but he's not ready yet in terms
of the inning output, what if they like kind of
make him his own opener, for lack of a better phrase,
like he just goes three.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
They can do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I just think they need to look for ways to
win that long last win like puland Chandler yesterday because
of pitch count, like after eighty when he was dealing. Finally,
I mean, they don't even need a manager. Kim Don
Kelly's not the manager. He manages by the dictum of
the analytics. He's not the manager. They need a real manager,
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and that ain't Kelly's fault. But I quote again, I
loved when Hurdle was the manager because back when the
Pirates were coming on in the early twenty tens, he
understood that they had to get a cushion, they had
to get out in front, and he managed April and
May like it was a sprint.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
That didn't get him nowhere until twenty thirteen, but it
taught him some stuff along the way, and it made
him compete harder.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, the way that they lost that game yesterday
is going to be talked about because of how things
went awry in the outfield with O'Hearn late in the game.
But I'm with you, I think the Chandler thing is
probably gonna be blown over too much because there were
there's so much talk about him not being able to
control the ball and walk in too many guys. After
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his last start, he only walked one guy yesterday. He
had a low pitch count. Let him keep going.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, absolutely, and as far as O'Hearn goes, he's a
first baseman playing in the outfield.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
They don't have the outfielders defensively. You're right, I can't.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I mean, he's their best outfielder defensively, and he's really
a first baseman.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It is a flawed team in the composition.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
You know, his mistake was the play before the last
play along the right field line, where he botched the
fly ball. The thing that happened at the end of
the game was as much the result of the runners
screwing up and then by extension, O'Hearn screwing up.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah. No, the thing at the end was just a
comedy moment. You know. They almost got thrown out on
a fourth.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Play nine to two, right, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But yeah, the one he bought was the one down
the right foot line that lost the game.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Uh, Mark, what's Kyle Dube is gonna say about it?
Getting maulk and tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I mean, I bet he kicks the can if you
make me bet, I bet he kicks the can down
the road saying they're still talking to Gino's people. Blah
blah blah. That's okay, bad so even though there's no
reason for that. So he wants to come back. So
the club either knows or it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Your opinion is they should let him go.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Your opinion is that Dubis will probably keep him, And
your opinion is he's gonna give us no indication tomorrow
one way or the other.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, I don't know what he's gonna do tomorrow. I
don't know what he's gonna do period.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
As far as what i'd do, I'd keep him and
grip my teeth and know it's the wrong move.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's where you've stood on
this for a while, because I don't think it's the
right move to keep them.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
There, Kim. There's no way to not keep them.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
The fans will be mad, the captain will be mad,
the room will be mad, the owners will look bad.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
There's no way to not keep him, Absolutely no way.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
But does this this is I'll kind of go back
to a point that you usually retreat to when it
comes to city. He could pout about it and be
upset about it, but he's not gonna not sign an
extension because he doesn't want to leave, right.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, Kim. The dressing room will be poisoned all year.
They went on strike for a couple of weeks. When
they trade against the one in twenty four went one win,
seven losses. On either side of it, it will be
ten times as bad here. There is no good to
be had by letting him go.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Even if they let him go and spend and go
get a Robertson or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I mean, I'm just looking at this in a vacuum. No, Actually,
if I looked at it in a vacuum, he'd.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
The vacuum is what's best for the team. The vacuum
is what's the hockey decision.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's not so much best for the team that you
could just wreak havoc to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Like I wrote last week, you know, the decision to
either keep Malket or let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
From a Kyle.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Duba's perspective, is you gotta be honest with yourself and
what are you gonna do with the cap room and
what are you gonna do with the roster spot. You're
gonna go out and make move and use some of
these draft choices that you have next year.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
That's another myth.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The only way to improve this team greatly immediately is
to trade draft picks for for younger NHL ready players.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And that's easier said than done. You did it with
China Coff.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You might have done it with Solderblom, but again easier
said than done. And as far as all the cap space,
what could who's available and unrestricted free agency and you
tell me how to spend the cap space? Maybe the
second line could be Drew Patrick Cainan Malkin.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
What oh god, that'd be great if Gino wound up
in Philadelphi and wound.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Up here available unrestricted free agents, No, there's nobody available
in for you.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Would you would have to do it through either restricted
free agency or trades.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
But restricted free agents there's compensation.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
If you signed Jason Robertson for what he's gonna get,
you would have to give up four first round draft picks.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Four.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, you'd have to work out a basically a trade
and sign for a lesser numbers, which and Kim.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What complicates this even more is that they're x amount
of people who legitimately think you owe it to these
three guys to try to win now, even at the
expense of mangling your future for a decade. You owe
it to these guys, and one of those guys, I
would guess is Sid's agent.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
It's still not going to affect what SID does though,
Right you still think he's signing an extension.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think he's sing.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So do I think he's ever going to leave? No?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Do I think a lot will be said and done
before he signs that extension.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yes, it's a.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Lot of news for not a lot of news for
Aaron Rodgers this weekend over Steelers rookie mini camp.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
How do you think that played out? What was your
perspective on it?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The whole thing's a joke. The whole thing is a joke.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
It makes the owner look like a dufus, That makes
the logo look weak. The whole thing's a joke. There's
no other way to put it other than the whole
things a joke. And what's going make it even worse
is when all the Steeler media students say they know
he was coming, this is no big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
All as well remain calm. It's a joke.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, every other team knows who their quarterback is basically
except for the Steelers, and every other.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Team knows their entire quarterback depth chart. If Rodgers does
come in, the Steelers aren't even sure who their backup is.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
They're not sure who the starter is. Are you sure
they're gonna go with Mason? You sure they're gonna go
with an hour?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, I said.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
If Rogers does come in, Rogers does come in, Yeah,
If he doesn't come in, then I don't know what
they're doing. I think, you know, the more and more
we get away from when McCarthy first got here was
pumping up Howard. It's pretty clear they've been pumping up
Howard just in case Rogers didn't come. I mean, their
actions speak louder than the words. They went out and
got Drew Holler. I don't care how excited people are
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now about him and Boy, they created a monster there,
didn't they.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
No Howard, No, Howard's a joke too.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He's a six round pick with a He's never gonna
start a game in the league unless extreme injury circumstance dictates.
Aler is a guy who might be it. Probably not.
He's a third round picky in a bad year, but
he might be it. McCarthy work with him uninterrupted only
quarterback at rookie camp. I like that, but there's so
many people who want him to fail. We talked about
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that on the podcast. You got the pit quits because
their guy was crap, and you got the Penn State
people who feel that Aller.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Let them down this past season.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
And then you've got people the analysis, like the people
who just don't know at all about football. Well, he
looked clubsy in his drop in rookie camp. And then
like two quarterbacks Chase Daniels and Ben Denucci chime in.
Know the first drop step in a drill is supposed
to be exaggerated to lead you to getting rhythm in
that regard when you have game reps, it's exactly what
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you do.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But people want Aller to fail.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And like with Mo, see, that's why a solo talk
show is I'm sure you'd agree, works better than a duo,
because the duo is going to set up conflict they
don't necessarily believe in. And that's why all the shows
one with more than one person is no Hour, no Howard,
no Rogers, no this, no that, no battle and who
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knows what they really think?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Better still, who cares?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It was ironic to underscore your point.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The Ben Denucci, the former pick guy the Pine Richland
guy jumps up in favor of drew out of the
Penn State guy when everybody's ripping him after three seconds
of video that was posted from day one of Rookie
Mini Caamp. Even if it wasn't the case, Mark what
you said, and Denucci is saying the same thing, that
he's doing what he's taught to be doing, even if
you just looked at him and says his footwork is crappy.
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It's day one of Rookie Mini Caamp, and everybody knows
his footwork is crappy. That's why he's struggling with That's.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Why what we're seeing is encouraging.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
McCarthy's trying to rein Ben his footwork, trying to make
him improve.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's actual coaching.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
These people just wanted him to come in after a
broken ankle in a bad season at Penn State and
be Carnation instant quarterback. He has the tools. Let McCarthy
know him the toolbox. But again it's these scripted battles.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
The funny thing is Mark, you know, and I wrote
about this today at trip Live. Aler's getting a ton
of attention. He had it chores the number one pick
you've got the hometown hero thing with the kid from
Navy and Eli hyden Reich.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And then you got Jennings Dunker. What do you call
him again?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Uh? Redneck, redneck red necky, the redneck comedian, the Data
Carvey character, come.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Get sold and you got him.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
So no one's talking about the most important rookie, and
that's Jeremy Bernard.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's the guy who's got the greatest he's got.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
The clearest path to play, and he's got the greatest
opportunity to make an impact in a three wide receiver
system like McCarthy likes to run.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I think Guy and A trys pretty important as well.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, no, it's nothing I'm talking about right now for
this year.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I start game on Goldna.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Be fo at left tackle, don't you, And if Jones
is healthy, it might be Fucktano at left guard.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If Rogers wasn't coming back as the forty two year
old win now guy, then I could understand the shuffling
at the offensive line because you're looking to get it
right for the long run. But if Rogers is the quarterback,
you should be doing nothing but looking to get it
right for right now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
All right, Mark got a couple of other things that
I want to get to before we get some comments.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
By the way, my starting left guard would be redneck. Redneck,
he come.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And get some.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Did you bet on the Edzo horse?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah? I bet. I bet so much. I didn't win much.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh you like, did a big box or something?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I did all I did all his boxes. But yeah,
I started a profit.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You did, all right, you turned a profit. That's good now?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
The winning horse isn't running in the Preakness though, right,
I don't know, is he.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I don't wants to. Derby's over.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Well, I really stop caring if the same horse that
wins the Derby doesn't win the Preteness, because then there's
no triple crime. And if he's not running into pretness,
then I don't care. I barely care, except Edzo helps
me win every year.
Yeah, the Drew Aller thing.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know, you had people, including some media guys, going
on Twitter. They showed the video said look how clumsyest
footwork is. But then Denucci tweets right away he's executing
the drill exactly as required. The first STEP's supposed to
be exaggerated to set up your rhythm in a game situation.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Why do people want him to fail?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I want to succeed. I know he's gonna I know
he's the next big thing. I know he saves the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I know it's.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm not right about that.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, at least I didn't fictionalize Rogers being in town
this weekend. So that's something we've been talking about. The
NHL Playoffs, some the final going to be Carolina versus Colorado,
although Ryan Malone predicted Montreal versus Minnesota, and Minnesota could
derail Colorado in that series. Got to win Game four,
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got to get it back to even Buffalo and Montreal
are gonna wear each other out. That is a fast
series so far, and Carolina has already won their series,
swept the Flyers, which is great. Saint Fredericton's Day was Saturday.
What Carolina won game for in overtime. Saint Frederickson's Day
is the holiday that marks the day each year when
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the Flyers cannot win the Stanley Cup, this time for
a fifty first straight year. I did celebrate, but it's
a bit muted because the Flyers did beat the Penguins.
But like I said, fifty one years without a Cup,
that's great. And the Penguins have five Cups to Philadelphia's two,
which is also great. Carolina is a juggernaut in not
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even getting a ton of scoring from the top line.
Svetchnikoff has one goal. I guess he can't make sveetch happen.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Get it.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Seth Jarvis only has one goal, but stank Covid has seven,
Aha has three, and I guarantee he smells great. And
the Hurricanes have allowed just ten goals in eight playoff games,
have never allowed more than two goals in any one game,
and that is a recipe for winning in the playoffs.
My official rooting interest, even though the Canadians are my
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mistress team, I'm rooting for Stalls. He to win a
Cup of thirty seven after he first won one at
twenty with the Penguins.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
That'd be absolutely terrific.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Now the Flyers will legit contend again before the Penguins do.
The Penguins are still a nostalgia act. We may have
that confirmed tomorrow when Dubas talks to the media, and
you know, if he has news on Malkin. I bet
it's that Malkin staying. And if that's the case, I
will be okay with that. I really will be okay
with that. I also have my eyes wide open if
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anybody wants to make up a case for Malkin staying
or going, I'd love to hear it in the sometime
during the rest of the show. Eight three, three, four
one two wa I wanted to trade Malkan in twenty thirteen.
It's a good thing they didn't. I also wanted to
trade him in twenty eighteen after the Penguins lost to
the Capitals in the second round, thereby denying a chance
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for a third straight Cup. If you trade the malk
And then you would probably have Barkoff and Gunsalin.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
The team right now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
But hey, everybody just loves Geno and I do too,
but I wish they had Barkoff and Malkin.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Pirates lost two out of three at San Francisco needed
to do better. Pirates lost that game yesterday and extra
innings needed to win that game.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Uh, what else do we got?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I love talking about that Human Centipede celebration twenty fifth
anniversary of Casper scoring on Hashik Penguins Eliminate the Sabers
and Maria's comeback here. Oh I remember that like it
was yesterday. I was so so happy. No I made
too many notes because the show's shorter. It is amazing
how many people want Ala to fail. I want to
get back to that for a second.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
And how many thinks Aler versus Howard is an even competition.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It just isn't.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
It's third run versus sixth round. It's all the tools
against weak arm. But people want Alor to fail. Like
I just talked about with that video that got posted,
Why do you want Ala to fail? Like I said,
it's the pit thing. It's letting Penn State don but
let Aler do his thing, let McCarthy do his thing.
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It's gonna work out. I'm telling you it's gonna work out.
Let's go to Donna in New Brighton, Donna or your
own with double m.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
H right, double M. I've just had two. Well on
good question ones and that the weird ones. I'll come
on TV. They always say it's.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The Premer the mier leg, but you always call it
the Premer.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
No, it is the Press. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I think it can go either way. I think of
it had an E on the end, it would be Premiere.
But I think Premer is proper with no.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
E on the end. Oh, I'm just wondering.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
The other thing is, you know what, I'm worried about her.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
She's been real coffee lately.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I don't know if it's the weather changing, she's been
real coffee, and she's been chronically real coffee. And she
coughed up a hairball the other day too. And I
hope she's okay. But let me tell you something. There
is no getting her to the vet. There is no.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Getting her to the vet. She fights like a wolverine.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
If she suspects you want her, no, it's it's actually
not funny at this point, Donna. If she even suspects
anything's up, she will. I've had her claw me on
my four arm to the point where I probably should
have got a couple of stitches. Wow, And you know what,
you know what's sad about that. I hate, I hate
to put it this way, but if she ever does
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let me take her, it'll probably be something so.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Bad it's too late.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But I literally, like I always tell people, you need
to take her to the vet.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Pep peep. Okay, you try to take her.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I understand, you know, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
The one thing I should try is throwing the towel
on her and make her do a burrito.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
But she dodges the freaking tal What can I tell you?
Thank you for the call, Donham. We come back, We'll
talk a little more. Buco Baseball.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Because I thought the Pirates at one time could contend
for the division. Because I didn't think the Nlcentra would
be that good. I'm not sure it is that good,
but another Cubs are and that's not good.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
One oh five.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Nine, one o five nine, Mark Madden, Yeah, Park welve
the show, Well if I won you, Buddy Potato, Dusty Road,
Tomican Dream so be a baby the X at one
O five nine.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's disgusting that all people want to talk about is
the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Where's Rogers Hot Aler?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Do it?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Rookie Camp? And I am interested in in Aler.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I'm not at all interested in Grandpa Game Manager, but
you do understand that the best it's going to lead
to is ten and seven again and no playoff win again.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
You do understand what the ceiling is, which.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Is why I don't get your interest in admittedly the
main issue of the road to that happening, but that
is what's going to happen, and I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I'm dumbfounded.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
It is all the B team talks about, period is
the quarterback situation. A lot of lying about it, but yeah,
they talk about it, and I just don't get it.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But I don't do it.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I do it too much for my liking, and I
do it ten percent of what they do. The story
is what happens with Maulkin and the Penguins this summer.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Dube, what's going to talk tomorrow? We'll see what he says.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I'll be there at noon out in Cranberry at the
Penguins practice facility. And the Pirates. Pirates lost two out
of three at San Francisco. They should have done better.
Lost yesterday and extra inning. Should have done better. And
the Cubs are a problem. The Chicago Cubs are in
first place in NL Central and they have two ten
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game winning.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Streaks already this year.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
The season's only one quarter finished, and they've already had
two winning streaks of ten games. I'd hate to have
it narrowed down to wild card bus by July fourth,
but that might well happen. It might have already happened.
Can the Cubs maintain it? I don't know that half
kid from Libo, he's got nine home runs. They do
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hit home runs that I'managa is pitching like an ace.
Their staff doesn't have schemes, but I'managa is close enough,
and it's deeper.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Probably maybe not. And if the Pirates would get a
wild card, you'd be happy me too. But the ironic
thing would be.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
When the roildcard round was only one game, two wild cards,
one game to get to the playoffs, proper. I love
that you had game seven right away to open the playoffs.
But when it was one game, the Pirates got beat
twice in a row by that guy, the pitcher, the ace,
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Bumgarner in fourteen and then Jake Ariet in fifteen didn't
score a run in either game. And now the Pirates
got that guy that'd be set up to win single
elimination wild card. But the wild card's best to three
and best of three is where an ace is the
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least useful. I think because single game, I mean, duh,
best of five he could pitch twice. Best of three
he can only pitch once. So that may be ironic,
But then again, I'm not quite sure, never have been
what exactly irony means. The Pirates are just good enough
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to create interesting debate. You can check out my column
a triple like I've mooted trading a starting pitcher for
third basement even as Nick Gonzalez is hitting three twenty
just under whatever, no power, but you know he's doing good,
and good on him. Good on Nick Gonzalez. But can
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he keep it up? I doubt it never has before.
Then again, you can have that one career that it's
not liar, like like Anthony Manta for the Penguine this year,
like Freddy Sanchez winning the bat and title for the
Pirates No. Six, but I do doubt it. Nick Conzalez
is twenty six, almost twenty seven, and by then you
are what you are unless he has that career year
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that outliar. But that's not how I bet the guys
who have hurt the Pirates the most, So far are
Cruising Reynolds. Look at O'Neill, Cruz, you were talking to
MVP a month ago, and then a month later his
average is dropped by one hundred points inside that time.
Reynolds has no home runs in twenty five games. Excuse
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me one, babe, Ruth. There one home run in twenty
five games. I think the guys who were hurting the
Pirates most are the established guys Cruise and Reynolds, not
to mention their yakaty sacks in the outfield. I look
at the Pirates and I still see a team that
just misses the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Would that be a crime?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, with skiens and to be wasting a third straight
year skiens, But what can they do to improve? I
wrote about that in my Call Him I Call Him today?
For the trip was kind of like a state of
the Pirates after one quarter of the season. And I mean,
you could bench Ozuna and I might or use him
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very selectively against lefties at DH. Otherwise, rotate DH between
Cruise and Reynolds. Make Mangam a regular and center field
because that would not certainly perfect your outfield defense, but
it would short up as long as he could run
Filepool to Foulepool, Like, look at that loss against San
fran Ryan O'Hearn botched a couple plays in the last inning,
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but he's a first baseman.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
He's the first baseman.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
But among those three, here's your best defensive outfielder.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But he's a first baseman. So I find it hard
to blame him for those plays.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Although well, the one play he botched that double, but
then at the end they hit that single to right
field and the guy didn't break from third base and
he could have been thrown out forced play at home
nine to two. A little bit of Sean Casey Sean
Join just tomorrow would have been reminiscent when he got
thrown out seven to three. But I'm not could have
blamed O'Hearn for that. A guy hit the single to
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right field with the bases loaded, the game's over. So uh,
I don't know. I mean, I don't think the powers
can improve a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
And I think people are assuming Jared Jones is going
to come back like he had been.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
That's an awful big assumption.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
If I got the right offer for Jared Jones to
trade him, I'd figure okay, within a couple of years,
set Turnandez becomes at least him maybe better. And I
would trade Jones for somebody could help me. Now that's
the trade I would make, not Keller, because Keller's doing great,
even though he does traditionally collapse in the second half
of the season. So that is great pirate talk. You
might not think so, but it was. I got to
(13:24):
talk about this. Bobby Cox passed away, managed the Atlanta
Breys for twenty five years, won fourteenth straight division titles,
only won the one World Series. He should have won more.
He had them great pitches, Maddox, Glavin Smoltz, et cetera.
Even Steve Avery, that young kid had a couple of
great years in that period. But Cox, here's what I
(13:45):
love about Bobby Cox. He got ejected one hundred and
sixty one times one hundred and sixty one. That's one
game shy of a full season. And he would get
so mad like Earl Weaver dipped in, Billy Martin, madd
Cleland did sometimes only matter it was great theater.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Donny Kelly does okay, He.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Manages totally according to analytics, like when he pulled Bubba
after only eighty pitches yesterday, Like when he doesn't play
Lyle against left handed pitchers, although Devil's advocate, Lyle has
to get rest sometimes. But what if the Powers had
a truly elite manager like Francona, who we pretended the
(14:29):
Pirates could have got him being from New Brighton at all,
But he's at Cincinnati instead. And the full disclosure, the
Reds did just blues eight straight. All right, we got
a little Penguins talk coming up next.
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Speaker 7 (15:24):
NBC has leaked a piece of the NFL schedule ahead
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Chris Boswell agreed to terms on a four year, twenty
eight million dollar extension today that ties him as the
highest paid kicker in NFL history, And after finishing their
road trip with the loss of San Francisco, the Pirates
have today op then they'll open a home stand tomorrow
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against Colorado. I'm Scott David said, run a business and
not thinking about radio.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Think again, because people are listening to radio more today
than the comet mark.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yes, you're voice like week hector to my ear.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
The last thing we need is a lot of loose talk.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I like it the X at one five nine.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
I've been hitting awake in one eighty really hard, like
I don't. I don't observe it when I travel, so
I ate often for a loud although only had one
bad meal. I went to my first buffet in literally
ten or fifteen years because they had prime rib, and
I tried to convince myself I would just have the
prime rib and salad and vegetables. But I had a
couple of desserts too, a little chicken too that that's
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not bad. But other than that, I just ate ate
protein and vegetables. Didn't only gained like a palm back.
And I've lost like seven pounds this week because awake
in one eighty definitely works. But in a couple of weeks,
I'm going to Atlantic City ten days. To be exact,
Chefola Chefola cannot wait and I won't hold back. Well,
(16:55):
I'm going twice because I'm there for four days. Wow,
yesterday was Mother's Day. I don't know if anybody saw.
I posted a photo of myself and my mom from
when I was very young, just like I think four
or five years old, me sitting on her lap. You know,
I still miss her every day. Went to Monicello's last
(17:15):
night on Babcock, where I used to take her frequently
for Mother's Day, So that was a good time. You
know what I'd become addicted to, and I'm ashamed to
admit this. I become addicted to Starbucks. I used to
not be. I still like dunkin Donuts coffee, even like
(17:35):
get Go coffee, but I got to tell you the
DCAF Americano is somebody who drinks DCAF.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's the best DCAF coffee. I've ever had the best
taste by.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Far, and you know you'll wait in the line, whether
it's inside or to drive through. But I have become,
late in life, a Starbucks convert, and might I add
a convert to coffee late life.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I didn't drink any coffee.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Until I was like late thirties, maybe even forty, and
for a while drank caffeine out the ying yang.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Now I do decaf.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I still have some caffeine if I can't get decaffeinated.
I'm not a fanatic about it. But yeah, so I've
become a Starbucks guy. We covered a lot of ground today,
I guess if not, who cares. But I'll tell you
a TV series I'm looking forward to watching. I saw
the first episode on WES. It's called Soccer's American Dream
(18:29):
with the World Cup coming here this summer, and it's
the history of soccer very very quickly told. Like the
first episode covered from the beginning of the North American
Soccer League, which was like nineteen sixty eight, that's the
predecessor to MLS, and then it folded, I want to
say in eighty four, and then there's about five minutes
(18:50):
on Major Indoor Soccer League the Pittsburgh Spirit, which I
worked with and covered two and it had a couple
of Spirit highlights. One they were talking about the immogry
of indoor soccer and they showed the Spirits Hot Legs entrance.
They had a promotion called hot Legs after the Rod
Stewart song and they would come out through this this
(19:11):
neon tunnel to that song. So they showed that intro,
and then they showed a fight between Paul Child of
the Spirit, who I think listens to this show frequently
and Peter Miller from Cleveland and Shieldsey beat the crap
out of him and then kicked him for good measure.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Those were the days, I guess.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So yeah, check that out Soccer's American Dream on Weiss.
I think the second episode comes out tomorrow. I thought
people on Twitter giving me crap. Well, the Flyers beat
the Penguins. You can't be happy they lost.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I'm always happy when they lose, and especially happy we
had the double sweep. Sixers get swept like the day
after the Fliers get swept. A bad day in Philadelphia.
The Carolina Hurricane social media, they do stuff I wouldn't.
I wouldn't like rub it in if I were a
team's official social media because I can come back to
(20:03):
haunt him. But the guy who does the Hurricanes just
sticking it to the Flyers. And I'm told that he's
a Pittsburgh native or she. I don't know he or
she bit, but that's what I'm told. I'm gonna look
into that. But there was one they showed this delicious
looking picture of a Philly cheese steak right after the
sweep was completed, and the captain was, Hey, Philly, do
(20:25):
you want that win her with our tears? You gotta
love it. I'm next gonna talk to Tim Bench from
the trip. I'm Mark Madden one oh five ninety X.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
It's The Woody Show week mornings at six oh I
like it on the X.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Success takes everything you've got. What'd you make of how
that game ended?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It's a game they need to win.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The way you make the playoffs is to beat the
bad teams mercilessly, and.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They needed that win.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
It's easy to see that as the kind of win
that could haunt them if they just missed a wild
card at season's in. And that's not the only loss,
if it's typed. So far this season they've lost. Boy,
I could think of four or five games where I
feel they should have won and put those games in
the W column. And they're right on top of the Cubs,
who have already had two ten game winning streaks and
(21:15):
might be the kind of team that can run away
with the division. So I thought it was not a
soul crushing loss. I don't know if you have those
in May, but potentially a damaging one.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
It is funny, isn't it Like when they lose, they
tend to lose in the most dramatic fashion possible. They
always give you something to talk about all day after
a loss. They never just lose six to five. It's
always something cataclysmic. And now they lose.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Yeah, And I did a state of the Pirates column
that'll go up any minute on Trible Live dot com.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
And I don't see what fixers are there.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I think they are what they are, which is a
borderline playoff team. They just make it or they just
miss it. I mean, they could rearrange their bullpen. I
think there's talent there that has yet to be realized
I definitely would ben Chozuna and use DHS to rotate
guys most especially Cruise and Reynolds, and get Mangam in
(22:10):
the outfield for defense.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
But other than that, what can it really change?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Maybe Jared Jones comes back, but after elbow surgery, there's
no guarantee what he'll be.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
You want him to be the bulk guy and replace
mczinsky in that role.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
You see, that's a tough call because I think Mazinsky's
done just fine.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I might experiment with Jones later in the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I mean, I think he profiles great as a closer.
He doesn't seem to agree with that assessment. I don't
think the team does.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yet. I still think the team values him as a starter.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
War That's what's want with this team.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
This team always looks, Okay, what's best for this guy
in the long run. They need to look at what's
best for us to win right now and what's best
for them to win right now. Is I think Jones
in a role later in the game.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
In the bullpen, Yeah, I would. I don't know if
he's a later inning guy yet. I think he's more
of a bridge guy now. Coming back from that injury,
and if he accepts it, he excels in it, then
maybe you can put him in a later inning, higher
leverage role. I don't know how he's going to react
to something like that if that's the case, But.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Why do I care about how he reacts?
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Because if he doesn't pitch well because he's sulky, then
you're defeating the purpose.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Then he's defeating his career.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
That's fine too.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, so I would just say, okay, here's what you do.
Do it and if you don't, good luck in a
journeyman's role. Bounced him on the league, Well, if they
want to, you'll be staking your claim to a guy
who doesn't do what it takes.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
All right, let me try to meet you in the
middle on this then all right.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
So if he comes back and they try to make
him a starter but he's not ready yet in terms
of the inning output, what if they like kind of
make him his own opener, for lack of a better phrase,
like he just goes three.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
They can do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
I just think they need to look for ways to
win that long last win like puland Chandler yesterday because
of pitch count, like after eighty when he was dealing. Finally,
I mean, they don't even need a manager. Kim Don
Kelly's not the manager. He manages by the dictum of
the analytics. He's not the manager. They need a real manager,
(24:18):
and that ain't Kelly's fault. But I quote again, I
loved when Hurdle was the manager because back when the
Pirates were coming on in the early twenty tens, he
understood that they had to get a cushion, they had
to get out in front, and he managed April and
May like it was a sprint.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Now.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
That didn't get him nowhere until twenty thirteen, but it
taught him some stuff along the way, and it made
him compete harder.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know, the way that they lost that game yesterday
is going to be talked about because of how things
went awry in the outfield with O'Hearn late in the game.
But I'm with you, I think the Chandler thing is
probably gonna be blown over too much because there were
there's so much talk about him not being able to
control the ball and walk in too many guys. After
(25:05):
his last start, he only walked one guy yesterday. He
had a low pitch count. Let him keep going.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Yeah, absolutely, and as far as O'Hearn goes, he's a
first baseman playing in the outfield.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
They don't have the outfielders defensively. You're right, I can't.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I mean, he's their best outfielder defensively, and he's really
a first baseman.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
It is a flawed team in the composition.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
You know, his mistake was the play before the last
play along the right field line, where he botched the
fly ball. The thing that happened at the end of
the game was as much the result of the runners
screwing up and then by extension, O'Hearn screwing up.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah. No, the thing at the end was just a
comedy moment. You know. They almost got thrown out on
a fourth.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Play nine to two, right, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But yeah, the one he bought was the one down
the right foot line that lost the game.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
Uh, Mark, what's Kyle Dube is gonna say about it?
Getting maulk and tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
I mean, I bet he kicks the can if you
make me bet, I bet he kicks the can down
the road saying they're still talking to Gino's people. Blah
blah blah. That's okay, bad so even though there's no
reason for that. So he wants to come back. So
the club either knows or it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Your opinion is they should let him go.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Your opinion is that Dubis will probably keep him, And
your opinion is he's gonna give us no indication tomorrow
one way or the other.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, I don't know what he's gonna do tomorrow. I
don't know what he's gonna do period.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
As far as what i'd do, I'd keep him and
grip my teeth and know it's the wrong move.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's where you've stood on
this for a while, because I don't think it's the
right move to keep them.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
There, Kim. There's no way to not keep them.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
The fans will be mad, the captain will be mad,
the room will be mad, the owners will look bad.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
There's no way to not keep him, Absolutely no way.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
But does this this is I'll kind of go back
to a point that you usually retreat to when it
comes to city. He could pout about it and be
upset about it, but he's not gonna not sign an
extension because he doesn't want to leave, right.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, Kim. The dressing room will be poisoned all year.
They went on strike for a couple of weeks. When
they trade against the one in twenty four went one win,
seven losses. On either side of it, it will be
ten times as bad here. There is no good to
be had by letting him go.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Even if they let him go and spend and go
get a Robertson or something like that.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I mean, I'm just looking at this in a vacuum. No, Actually,
if I looked at it in a vacuum, he'd.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
The vacuum is what's best for the team. The vacuum
is what's the hockey decision.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's not so much best for the team that you
could just wreak havoc to do it.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Like I wrote last week, you know, the decision to
either keep Malket or let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
From a Kyle.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Duba's perspective, is you gotta be honest with yourself and
what are you gonna do with the cap room and
what are you gonna do with the roster spot. You're
gonna go out and make move and use some of
these draft choices that you have next year.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
That's another myth.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
The only way to improve this team greatly immediately is
to trade draft picks for for younger NHL ready players.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
And that's easier said than done. You did it with
China Coff.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
You might have done it with Solderblom, but again easier
said than done. And as far as all the cap space,
what could who's available and unrestricted free agency and you
tell me how to spend the cap space? Maybe the
second line could be Drew Patrick Cainan Malkin.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
What oh god, that'd be great if Gino wound up
in Philadelphi and wound.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Up here available unrestricted free agents, No, there's nobody available
in for you.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
Would you would have to do it through either restricted
free agency or trades.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
But restricted free agents there's compensation.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
If you signed Jason Robertson for what he's gonna get,
you would have to give up four first round draft picks.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Four.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Yeah, you'd have to work out a basically a trade
and sign for a lesser numbers, which and Kim.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What complicates this even more is that they're x amount
of people who legitimately think you owe it to these
three guys to try to win now, even at the
expense of mangling your future for a decade. You owe
it to these guys, and one of those guys, I
would guess is Sid's agent.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
It's still not going to affect what SID does though,
Right you still think he's signing an extension.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I think he's sing.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
So do I think he's ever going to leave? No?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Do I think a lot will be said and done
before he signs that extension.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yes, it's a.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Lot of news for not a lot of news for
Aaron Rodgers this weekend over Steelers rookie mini camp.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
How do you think that played out? What was your
perspective on it?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The whole thing's a joke. The whole thing is a joke.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
It makes the owner look like a dufus, That makes
the logo look weak. The whole thing's a joke. There's
no other way to put it other than the whole
things a joke. And what's going make it even worse
is when all the Steeler media students say they know
he was coming, this is no big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
All as well remain calm. It's a joke.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, every other team knows who their quarterback is basically
except for the Steelers, and every other.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Team knows their entire quarterback depth chart. If Rodgers does
come in, the Steelers aren't even sure who their backup is.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
They're not sure who the starter is. Are you sure
they're gonna go with Mason? You sure they're gonna go
with an hour?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, I said.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
If Rogers does come in, Rogers does come in, Yeah,
If he doesn't come in, then I don't know what
they're doing. I think, you know, the more and more
we get away from when McCarthy first got here was
pumping up Howard. It's pretty clear they've been pumping up
Howard just in case Rogers didn't come. I mean, their
actions speak louder than the words. They went out and
got Drew Holler. I don't care how excited people are
(30:50):
now about him and Boy, they created a monster there,
didn't they.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
No Howard, No, Howard's a joke too.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
He's a six round pick with a He's never gonna
start a game in the league unless extreme injury circumstance dictates.
Aler is a guy who might be it. Probably not.
He's a third round picky in a bad year, but
he might be it. McCarthy work with him uninterrupted only
quarterback at rookie camp. I like that, but there's so
many people who want him to fail. We talked about
(31:21):
that on the podcast. You got the pit quits because
their guy was crap, and you got the Penn State
people who feel that Aller.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Let them down this past season.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
And then you've got people the analysis, like the people
who just don't know at all about football. Well, he
looked clubsy in his drop in rookie camp. And then
like two quarterbacks Chase Daniels and Ben Denucci chime in.
Know the first drop step in a drill is supposed
to be exaggerated to lead you to getting rhythm in
that regard when you have game reps, it's exactly what
(31:54):
you do.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
But people want Aller to fail.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
And like with Mo, see, that's why a solo talk
show is I'm sure you'd agree, works better than a duo,
because the duo is going to set up conflict they
don't necessarily believe in. And that's why all the shows
one with more than one person is no Hour, no Howard,
no Rogers, no this, no that, no battle and who
(32:20):
knows what they really think?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Better still, who cares?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It was ironic to underscore your point.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
The Ben Denucci, the former pick guy the Pine Richland
guy jumps up in favor of drew out of the
Penn State guy when everybody's ripping him after three seconds
of video that was posted from day one of Rookie
Mini Caamp. Even if it wasn't the case, Mark what
you said, and Denucci is saying the same thing, that
he's doing what he's taught to be doing, even if
you just looked at him and says his footwork is crappy.
(32:48):
It's day one of Rookie Mini Caamp, and everybody knows
his footwork is crappy. That's why he's struggling with That's.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Why what we're seeing is encouraging.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
McCarthy's trying to rein Ben his footwork, trying to make
him improve.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
It's actual coaching.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
These people just wanted him to come in after a
broken ankle in a bad season at Penn State and
be Carnation instant quarterback. He has the tools. Let McCarthy
know him the toolbox. But again it's these scripted battles.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
The funny thing is Mark, you know, and I wrote
about this today at trip Live. Aler's getting a ton
of attention. He had it chores the number one pick
you've got the hometown hero thing with the kid from
Navy and Eli hyden Reich.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And then you got Jennings Dunker. What do you call
him again?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Uh? Redneck, redneck red necky, the redneck comedian, the Data
Carvey character, come.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Get sold and you got him.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
So no one's talking about the most important rookie, and
that's Jeremy Bernard.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
He's the guy who's got the greatest he's got.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
The clearest path to play, and he's got the greatest
opportunity to make an impact in a three wide receiver
system like McCarthy likes to run.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
I think Guy and A trys pretty important as well.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, no, it's nothing I'm talking about right now for
this year.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I start game on Goldna.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Be fo at left tackle, don't you, And if Jones
is healthy, it might be Fucktano at left guard.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
If Rogers wasn't coming back as the forty two year
old win now guy, then I could understand the shuffling
at the offensive line because you're looking to get it
right for the long run. But if Rogers is the quarterback,
you should be doing nothing but looking to get it
right for right now.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
All right, Mark got a couple of other things that
I want to get to before we get some comments.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
By the way, my starting left guard would be redneck. Redneck,
he come.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
And get some.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Did you bet on the Edzo horse?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah? I bet. I bet so much. I didn't win much.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Oh you like, did a big box or something?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I did all I did all his boxes. But yeah,
I started a profit.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You did, all right, you turned a profit. That's good now?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
The winning horse isn't running in the Preakness though, right,
I don't know, is he.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
I don't wants to. Derby's over.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Well, I really stop caring if the same horse that
wins the Derby doesn't win the Preteness, because then there's
no triple crime. And if he's not running into pretness,
then I don't care. I barely care, except Edzo helps
me win every year.
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Hey Jonas! The official Jonas Brothers podcast. Hosted by Kevin, Joe, and Nick Jonas. It’s the Jonas Brothers you know... musicians, actors, and well, yes, brothers. Now, they’re sharing another side of themselves in the playful, intimate, and irreverent way only they can. Spend time with the Jonas Brothers here and stay a little bit longer for deep conversations like never before.