May 7, 2026 • 38 mins
Mark is back from his Florida trip and its right back to the Rodgers nonsense. Paul Skenes one of the best pitchers ever? And what should the Penguins do with Geno
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Door reupted with the Penguins. He's twenty six, solely off reupped.
He's twenty five. Malkin has not not yet, He's gonna
be forty. But the big story was on the mound
in Arizona last night. The real story in Pittsburgh is
the Pirates, because they could win something.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
If they could win if.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Because I hate absurdly over the top hype it, Paul
Skeins might really be the best pitcher ever, like Bob
Gibson in nineteen sixty eight. Level good eight innings last
night at Arizona, two hits, two singles. Skeens was untouchable,
but the Pirates only won one nil. You gotta get
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more bats, and you gotta go get him now, because
you get this guy in a playoff series and he
kicks off the best of three and pitches two times
in a longer series. The Pirates can legit win now
if they get more bats, because you can't win one
nil more than occasionally, and you can't win enough with
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the offense they got Right now, they're in last place
in the NL Central. That ain't me picking on the Bucks,
fat ass. That's the standings. Go look at them. They're
in the last place in the Nlcentral. There are only
three games above five hundred, and that's with Paul Skiings.
And yet I know they can't field, they make base
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running mistakes. There's a lot to not like about the Pirates,
but they got Paul Skiings and they can hit a
little bits. If they could hit a little bit more,
not a lot more, but a little bit more. This
is a playoff team. And then I don't think the
sky's limit, but I think you could win a wild
card round. You might even win a divisional round. But again,
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you can't win one nil more than just occasionally. The
story a ton ain't the old quarterback, and it ain't
the old Russian. It's the best pitcher in baseball in
his prime. And what can be accomplished if if this
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is the Mark Madden show, fresh back from Guns n'
Roses and for Lauderdale. You heard the opening, you could
be mine great run up to the show has that
long Also, fresh off reading Cameron Crow's memoir the director
of Almost Famous Jerry Maguire, great rock writer when he
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was just a teenage kid, Gonna talk about that more later,
would love to get him on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Also, I saw Marty Supreme.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Shallomet is fool Proof, but I didn't quite get the movie,
for all its praise. And we'll talk about that because
I can only talk about the goddamn quarterback so much.
Somebody on the BT one said it's their civic duty
to talk about it. If it's my civic duty is
a Pittsburgh sports talk cooast to talk about it, I'm
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gonna move to Conyell Lake see what they talk about
there on the radio, and it may come to that.
Let's talk now to Tommy Radio. Tom did you see that
last night at Arizona? The Diamondbacks couldn't touch him, did
not know what to do. They looked like when I
watch the games, I don't just watch the ball in
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play it being thrown, you know, no matter what sport.
I watched the players' faces. The Diamondbacks did not know
what to do.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I watched the entire thing last night.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It was such an amazing experience, you know, him being
perfect up until the end of that fifth inning and
kind of tracking that and keeping an eye on his
pitch count, and then Okay, the perfect game's gone and
no hitter's gone, let's go for that complete game. Shut
out because that's become a rarity now in Major League Baseball.
And the pitch count was so perfect for that too.
He was trending in that direction. Yeah, I would have
let him go. I would have done it. I would
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have too, But I get it. I wonder if it
would have been a no hitter or a perfect game.
If that'll let him.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Fish, you have to if it's a perfect game and
no hitter, I think you have to put him in.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think if it's a perfect game or not, or
he's just walking back off, he's making you come and
get a Soto, just get off the mound.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He'll bully him off the mound.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, that was the only drawback from last night's game
is he didn't get to complete it. But they won
the game one nothing, so I can't really complain too
much there. It was masterful stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Look at look at the two hits, like, I know,
an infield single and and a chintzy ball through the infield.
Well no, I was the second hit, but well we're
debating the quality of the two hits. My god, and
the first hit too.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I bet you Skeens wish he would have had that
back because if he fires off a good throat at
first base.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
He nails that guy.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, he can't feel that's his weakness. No, actually, I'm
at it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm assuming he can.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I just hasn't been tested when they strike out
all the time. I wonder what skeens his peak is,
because again I hate over the top hype, but I
think he's by foot well scooball but he's just Yeah.
I just wonder by how much but he is. And
I wonder about, you know, where he ranks all time already,
and certainly he has a lot of career in front
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of him. But I wonder about a one point five
era at some point in the season. And I wonder
about like twenty five wins, even with pitch count and
so forth, if they got some bats, he could post
that kind of year.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
He's like twenty five wins.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, he's not gonna get twenty five wins this year,
but he's got five already. That's second in the National League.
That's how much difference from last year compared to I
think got like five wins in the middle of July
or towards the end of July in last season. As
far as what his peak is like, I don't think
it is hyperbolic anymore to start saying he could be
the greatest pitcher of all time, at least one of
the greatest, maybe on that Mount rushmore of pitchers. As
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cliche as that is. I mean, from day one he
hit the scene and he's just dominated. And usually you
wait to see the league correct to him, and they
barely have.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And still the Pirates barely won, right, one run, seven hits,
only two extra base hits. They gotta get bats if
there's a legitimate commitment to winning. But I'm not talking
about a token bat at the deadline. I'm talking about
a legit bat, like nah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
No, yeah, get it into early go whale hunting. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The Mets are a team that had the high expectations.
They're floundering right now. So if you can poach somebody
from that roster, though that's going to be expensive. That's
the thing, though, Mark, to get a bat, like you're saying,
those guys are usually under contract that have a lot
of money tied to them, so you have to commit
as an owner to those.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But do you think that that the Pirates will make
a move like that? Will notting get caught up in
the winning and the potential and schemes. Will he make
the most of it or will he revert back to
being Bob nutting? And I remain not convinced, but I
think it very likely Tom that he did when he
did this passed offseason by way of getting near what
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would be a CAP. More if the next CBA would
adopt a cap, so he wouldn't be scrambling throwing bigger
money at minimal talent.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I think he might fall in love with what's happening here,
but I don't think that necessarily leads to him spending
even more to add somebody earlier or at that trade deadline.
I think he'll just convince himself that he did it
in the offseason. He's got Connor Griffin coming along, Paul
Skeen's is already on the roster. Let's just go with
what we have and hope it's for the best. But
it won't be enough.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Let me make clear, oh, that you lead right in
to my next point top I'm enthusiastic about the Pirates
and about Skins, more than a bit about the Pirates
in decades. If they don't add bats, they don't make
the playoffs. If this team continues as is. It's not
gonna make the playoffs. For one thing, it's not yet
had an injury of any significant point.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Who knows that? And if it's if it was the
skiing season over, but yes, even.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If it was, like who's like an it like if
they lost like Law? Okay, a guy who's very good
hit a long home run last night, but it'd be done.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You shouldn't be done if you lose Brandon Law, but
they would be No.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I agree with you. It's it's very tedious right now.
The Pirates are walking a fine line and there's just
too many holes in their lineup right now, too many
easy outs. I mean, Ozuna is just a black hole
at Pancy Park. Actually he's hitting like two eighty eighty,
it's really weird. But he's like under one hundred on
the road. Your DH can't be the easiest out in
your lineup. That's a massive hole that they have the
bottom of the lineup despite Griffin coming along. Now, that's
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a huge black hole in the lineup. I mean, Davis
is a nobody. Bart is at nobody as far as
the bad is concerned.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now here's a philosophical question we'll get to on the
other side of the break, So don't talk down. Why
isn't this the big story? You got the best pitcher
in baseball maybe in baseball ever, you got a team
that never wins, that is showing clear potential to win,
and it's a town that's so starved for the pirates
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being good they usually overreact. But right now, the big
story is this old grizzled coward, yellow bellied, won't take
a hit, can't win no more, washed up for five
years quarterback, and we're tracking his flight to Pittsburgh like
a Santa's goddamn sled on New on Christmas Eve? How
is that the story when all it leads to is crap?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How can that be the story? But it is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's all I hear about this guy, this old bastard,
this coward, this the old yeller, ain't no dog, won't
get hit. He gonna come in, get hurt and fail.
That's what's gonna happen. And you can't wait for it
to happen, except I think most of you would prefer didn't.
I think the voices you hear on the radio and
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read in print, I think they want him back.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't think you do. And I know for sure,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I want Mike McCarthy, the quarterback Guru, the real Pittsburgh guy,
not like the silver spoon Mexican War Streets guy who
forgot what his granddaddy's logo stands for, the Reilli Inser.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The Greenfield guy. He can made this team out of
the woods. But it won't be with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It'll be with Aler or Howard, which is to say
Aler because Howard sucks. So let's get started on that.
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Speaker 1 (10:23):
Entera Live North America's weren't twenty twenty six. Anything is farcical,
and you're bringing back a forty two year old guy
who's scared of his own shadow.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Won't take it to make a play didn't play that good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Last year, threw a pick six to wrap up a
playoff game, and we're tracking his arrival in Pittsburgh like
Santa's coming to town on his slave and it's Christmas Eve.
Hey kids, he's almost dear, except Rogers looks older than Santa.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. I don't get it even a little bit, uh, Tom.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I do want to talk a bit more about the
pirates though, And like I said, today's show is gonna
be all over the place, as it generally is when I.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Turn from vacation.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But you know what's gonna suck for the parts in
big games is the defense will let him down and
the base running will let him down. Like there was
bad base running last night cost him a run. And
in Reynolds and O'Neill cruise in the outfield, they just
they those two next to each other is treasonous if
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you're a starting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it'd be one thing. I mean, O'Neal Cruz has
hit on and off.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He's doing generally pretty well, yeah, but Reynolds is flailing
most of the time. As a good game now and again,
he's been a little bit hot lately. But I don't
see any alternative but my point is schemes ain't enough.
They need to go get more bats, and the sooner
the better.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
The alternative to the defensive problems in the outfield, which
by the way, I was looking at like the defensive
war metric, which isn't the end all be all. But
Reynolds is the worst defensive player qualified in baseball and
defensive war then cruises like a couple spots up. Then O'Hearn,
who I don't think has been that bad. He is
like a minus point four. So their entire outfield is
like in the bottom of the league.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Right field next to those guys. He goes like clementated.
But the problem there Renold. You know when you have
a good outfield tom oft if O'Hearn was your worst
defensive Hocke being really a first basement.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yes, absolutely, and making a transition you shouldn't have expected. Honestly,
what you've gotten out of him is better than I
think expectations for somebody playing a new position.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, but let's talk about the guys who suck. Yeah,
it drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, the fix to the outfield problem defensively is the
DFA Mozuna right and open up the DH spot for
Reynolds and then there you can move manglem into the.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Line even though it would cost you what the twelve
million you're paying Ozuona, that's baseball, right. If you want
to make the playoffs, you've got to make bold moves
and not wait to do them.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You gotta get somebody now. You got a dfao zoon
and I you got to clean up your defense now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Although I had one guy tweet me, he goes, the
Pirates don't need more bats, they just need to run
the bases and play defense better. And I said, what
are you trying to win the Little League World Series?
Baseball is about scoring. Baseball's become like football, score more fast.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And it's also impossible for the Pirates to play better
defense because they just suck at defense. They have too
many defensively deficient players.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Whenever I hear like other radio shows and on Twitter,
people debate how the Pirates could adjust things and fix things,
whether it's defense, whether it's get more offense in the lineup.
There are no solutions. They got what they got. They're
making the most of it. Like there's nobody to put
in there for Henry Davis. Nope, there's nobody although Nick
Gonzalez is hitting pretty good right now, but you want
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him to be the utility guy off the bench. There's
just and like those outfielders aren't gonna suddenly you know,
get gold gloffs.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
No, And you know, watching the game last night when
Skeens pitched the gym and they won one nothing, the
Diamondbacks were like the antithesis of what the Pirates are
in the field, Like they were making unbelievable plays, tracking
things down in the gaps in the outfield. Aeronauto had
the sparkler at third base to get in a big out,
and they like, you see, like how valuable that is.
And it kept a team that was struggling at the
plate in the game until the very last out because
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they just kept making plays in the field themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Now we got to talk about the report that Rogers
is coming to Ton and Tom. This is vintage Ladder
day media and the same outlets. One of their employees
had a scoop that Rogers is coming this weekend and
will sign. And then somebody else employed by the same
outlets said, if that's true, the Steelers don't know about it.
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So someone has a scoop, they just don't know quite
which one. I tend to think he is coming to
town because guys like Breer and Rappaport have said us
as well. But I don't understand why this is dragged
on this long. I don't understand the value of bringing
him back at all. And it's about time somebody, although
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I've tried, but maybe not. Okay, this is a bad idea.
He sucks now. He's not even a top twenty five quarterback.
He's slow, he's scared. He won't get better. All the
guile in the world, he's got his connection with McCarthy,
if it still exists, it won't make up for the
things about him that suck.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Keith part there as won't get better, Like you can't
realistically expect him to age and then come back. And Oh,
I'm going to stand in there and make a play now,
Oh we have Michael Pittman and Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama.
I'm gonna sit there now and let them go downfield
and have them go over the middle fifteen twenty yards
down the field, even if it means I'm gonna get
hit from my blind side. To make this play like
that just doesn't all of a sudden happen for him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Especially with an offensive line that is uncertain right now.
In it's make up, it's gonna be ripped up again.
It'll be uncertain when the season starts.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
There's gonna be moving he he knows that his right
tackle feltone, which was probably over all the best offensive
lineman on the Steelers line last year.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's gonna be the left side this year. Like they're
gonna move him out of his great spot and now
he's gonna have uncomfortability on the right.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Sown't get me wrong. If that all works out, that's
the right move. Yeah, right move. But but you know
when it's gonna work out, if it works out, is
by next year. Okay, this and we got we got
some sound from Nick Wright and Dave Danishek saying the
Steelers are wasting a year by bringing him back, and
they are.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They should.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
They should just get their offensive line the way they
want it, have the quarterback guru, work with Alan Howard
and start Mason Rudolph to start the season. Sometimes you
have to write off a year, and nobody wants to
hear that out there, but it's because you're stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You got to write off a year to move forward.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You got like case in point Steelers, what one in
thirteen got Terry Bradshaw, what's six and ten got Ben Roethlisberger.
And we can babble all we want about defense and
renegade without Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. You can bring in me
and Joe Green, you can bring in Troy Pullamlou. Without
Bradshaw and Roethlisberger, this ton is stuck on zero super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's just it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And to be honest with you, that's why I don't
know if Drew Aller is going to be the lottery
ticket that pays off nor kne Why but ASA rip
it open right? Why would you throw an unscratched lottery
ticket into the trash can? You'd live with regret for
the rest of your life that that was the one?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And don't you agree.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That you got it?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like like, this just gives me so pissed. Why was
my track to thought? I babble, I stutter.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Because we have this like breaking news today, but all
it is what he's happened. He's hopping on a plane
like that, but it's presented that way. And then you
see these graphics ESPN likely to sign with the Steelers.
That's where we were in February, likely to sign with
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
What is new? You know what the upside of uh
of of coming out with the dueling reports is they're
getting plugged as reported by. I mean, we'll see if
it's true. But you got Breer and rap report as
reported by.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Although I did didn't Rappaport not do that at first,
Like I don't think he gave the morning show credit
at all.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Over there the B team, Yeah, I don't know, I
don't know. I like that, slam them up, sneak in
there and take it. It probably is true.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Okay, But if you have confidence in your report, then
don't have the guy on saying well, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That, couldn't You also see that he hops the plane
and he comes to pittsburghcause I think that part's true.
Then he leaves without a deal done. Like we're in
the same spot on Monday, where it's just like Rogers
just popped in to check in.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Two key questions. Do you feel like that the citizens
don't want him to quarterback? Now?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like I had a Twitter pool and I'll talk about
that in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
In fact, let me dig it out now, but but
my Twitter pool, and and I know a Twitter poll
is poisoned by who posts it. For example, right of
eleven voting said they want Alur to start. I don't
even want Hour to start, Okay, I want him to
be groomed. Okay, but bit I want Rudolph to start,
Aller to take over midway through the year. Yes, the
people vote that way because they think that's what I think. Okay, Twitters,
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but here's the thing. Thirty five percent said Aler, twenty
eight percent said Howard, twenty percent said Rogers, seventy percent
said Rudolph.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Those people have been arrested. And although I'd be one
of them temporarily, but.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, I could do math Tom eighty percent don't want Rogers. No.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I definitely think that the tide has turned there that
they're just done with Rogers. I think Aler kind of
accelerated that a little bit too, where you've got another option,
a super high ceiling option that's let's see what is
under that stone, turn it over.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Do you think the fans will turn on Roger if
he plays poorly.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's a great question. I don't know, because on we've
seen before, like social media on Twitter is different That's
exactly That's exactly what I was saying. Remember when they
benched justin Fields for Russell Wilson and Twitter was insane,
But then Russell Wilson runs out of that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Tunnel and it was terrible. Towles go and not stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Twitter and the talk show callers always wame flurri for
the Penguins, you know, underachieving, they thought, you know, during
during the during the Flurry tenure after two thousand and nine,
Mark Andrey Fleurriy never got booed no matter what. Oh
at home and he was totally beloved, as his exhibition
farewell confirmed.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, so that's why I hesitate to say that he
would get booed at Akroscher Stadium. But I think the
pitchforks would definitely be out on social media. I think
I think they kind of are already. They're sick of this.
You're right, the Steelers nation as a whole wants to
turn the page of this old man and go with
their young quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's what they said about Bob Seger. And the other
burning question is.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you think Rogers will come to Pittsburgh via private
plane or first class private commercial?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But first class private plane I don't know. I don't
know about that. I don't know. I think he's a
piece lildless money. Yes, no, you know what.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're right, because when he went to New York to
get cut, which is still hilarious, was there for eight seconds?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Got cut? I think he flew private. He flu private.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Now is there chancey Fla is private to come in
and say I retire? Do it face to face because
he's a classy guy. Face to face with me, with
Art Rooney, Yeah, with you, he'd sit down with Mark
Madden and say I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
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Speaker 1 (20:17):
Company if you're just tuning in. Aaron Rodger either is
or isn't coming to Pittsburgh. Either will or won't sign
more on this breaking story as it doesn't really break.
Uh No, I do believe he's coming. That's the report.
I mean Kabalis saying that the Steelers don't know about it. Yeah,
I mean Kabali's the one who's always said it's a
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done deal, and then he knows and they know, and
YadA YadA. I don't care. I'm just tired of all
of it. But I say to you, and if you
want to call, because today's show is going to.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Be all over the place. I'm this this Rogers stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I've rarely been more legitimately pissed about anything than the
way this Rogers thing has gone his tenure here almost
since minute one, the way he hes played the logo
for fools, the way he's dragged it out, you know,
to make the fans talk about it, which I believe
is his sole purpose. I just think he's a crappy
human being with with with with main character complex, just
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unbelievably narcissistic, and most important, I don't see the upside
of him playing. I think that the silver spooniinz there
is so desperate to win just one playoff game and
not keep letting down the legacy of Daddy and Granddaddy
that he's selling the team's soul to try to do so.
And it probably still won't happen anyway. Uh And so
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if you want to, I dare anybody to call me
and tell me why him coming back is good because
I don't think he can give me a logical reason
other than trying to eke out a measly playoff win.
And what was the score that Houston game again? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And what happened on the last past he threw? Oh yeah,
now I remember, just a bunch of crap. The Stealers
are the Jets, Howard said it. I agree, the Steelers
are the Jets. And then there's the Geno saga. The
Penguins in Malkin's agent have not yet talked. I don't
think so. Yoey'll be on later to confirm or deny,
(22:12):
probably deny in the spirit of the breaking news of
the last twenty four hours. No, Josh, we'll tell the truth.
I don't expect, not that anybody's.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Not, but I mean, who cares. It's Rogers who cares.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't expect the Malkan thing will drag out. Like
with Rogers and the Steelers, free agency starts to lie.
First door reup today, solely off reup today. They're young guys,
not surprised to see it. Good moves by h Kyle
dubas the gm uh So. I think the Malkin thing
will be decided long before July first, maybe even by
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the end of this week, because unlike Rogers, Gino has
options unless Rogers doesn't, unless Geno doesn't. And Dubas never
planned to bring back malcam but he's got to. He's
got to now now. It's not a hill worth dying on.
Fans want it, the captain wants it, the locker room
wants it. A lot of the media is pushing for it,
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like and for the wrong reasons. They like they could
win now, get them help, blah blah blah, And they
absolutely can't win now cause you can't get him enough help.
I know there's forty six million available to spend in
free agency, the most cap space anybody has.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Look at who's available and unrestricted free agency. You think
Patrick Cannan Kleu Jeru can help.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean, the best fit among the names I see
for unrestricted free agency is Mason Marsman, who's kind of
like this crap disturbing winger for Columbus, who's thirty, and
I think he could help compartmentally, like on the third line.
But you know, the point is that forty six mil
in cap space you got, you can't tie up an
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old guys, because what if some of the guys you
develop hit then you can't afford to resign them. The
people who wanted to to keep Geno forever when I
said trade him at twenty eighteen, you know who would
be on your team right now if you trade a
Gino in twenty eighteen, bark Coff and Genseil.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Who would you rather have right now? Gino or bark
Cooff and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Genzil, Because that's the choice that was made then, and
the new owners they're not gonna want to be the
bad guys letting Malkin go. And to be honest, you
got to let Sit and Gino and tang Are play
together on the Penguins as long as they want to.
And that path was chosen before Dubis and his plan
got here. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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It's just what almost now has to happen. In short,
I wouldn't keep Gino, but you gotta keep Geno. And
I will further illuminate that at the top of the
hour by recalling something that happened in twenty twenty four
when they traded Jake, and it was bad and it
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would be ten times worse now, Tom what do you
think I feel like they got to bring back Gino.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's not a hill that's worth dying on. No, No,
you're right, and they're going to bring back Gene. I
don't know. I don't know about that. Do you think
dudees might die on the hill? I think he might.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay, Well, if he does, then I know he'll have
some support on this show at least, because it's probably
the right decision to go forward.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm to be honest, I'm a big fan of Kyle.
I might just DoD shrap know if that decision gets made.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I I lean towards he's gonna bring him back, though,
and that the decision what we made to bring back.
And it seems like it's gonna be a one year
deal too, which when there was that little kind of
rumbling of a potential two year deal that was just
getting absurd.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't know if they've talked yet. Yeah, I don't
think so either. I'm just widely speculating, to be honest
with you. But one year deal, Gino coming back, that seems.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right to me. Yeah, But then he's gonna be on
the first power. That's the biggest drawback.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, the second line I can kind of live, course,
although I don't know why I would want. Maybe I
can't because it would be probably Malkin kindle a China
cough and it slows the line down and makes the
line about him.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, put it this way, I can. There's just no
good way to bring him back, but they got to anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I can stomach the second line thing a lot easier
than the first play thing. I mean, he's just you
can't have him on the first power play Hill block
Kendall Hillbock Chinakov. He'll block one of those guys, and
those two have to be PP one next year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I forgot to mention Bill Zonen, who was one of
their first round picks last year. His junior year's done,
so he joined Wilkes for the playoff drive, which they're
currently leading. Hirshe I think two games two one. Yeah,
did you see the winning goaling Overbroarty. Yeah, it looked
like it didn't go in. It did go in, like
there was the one angle where you could tell it
went in like hit like the white right like doers.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Honestly, and game wasn't four or four or five when
he hit it off the back, not the crossbar, but
the bar inside the net and it pass right back out. Yeah,
what a great thing that's happening in Wilkes though, right
Mark Avery Hayes scores the tie and goal to force
that overtime. McGroarty with the game winning tip in like that,
that's what you want, right, Like you want these guys
to grow like that.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I don't think those guys are better than bottom six
is of the NHL. It's fine, but they're getting experience
and waiting. That's the guy I want to see the
big win keep winning. Yeah, how about the Hershey fans
refused to leave the arena because they believe the puck
didn't go in.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I saw that they were throwing stuff on the ice.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I don't blame him. I've been to Hershey. You know
what happens when you step outside that building. You were
at Hershey unless you want chalk. But it actually I
shouldn't say that because I'm going there to see Jason
Bonham Zeppelin thing soon and probably g in Argon too.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But it's literally just the park right like in that
area around the park with like the Giant Center, Like
that's the only good part of Hershey.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, there's the Downtown's okay, Okay, I mean I just
wanted to crack a cheap joke, and not for the
first time either.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
You know what Tom I thought about. I'm gonna bare
my soul here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The travel for these concerts is really tough now that
I'm sixty five.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Okay, it really is.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Although I flew coach for the first time because Spirit
folded up right before my trip to Fort Lauderdale. I
flew coach aisle seat extra leg room on Jet Blue
and it was okay, Yeah, losing those seventy palms helped,
thank you, awaken one to eighty. But then I would
had to wait like five hours to come back when
the round trip, and I was dumb. I forgot you
can get from Fort Lauderdale where I was at, to
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Miami's airport in like twenty five minutes. So I blew
off the Jet Blue flight, spent another like I don't
want to say how much, and flew first class home
from Miami in the middle of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But the point is.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
GNR was so good and I loved I just have
such a good time and things like that, as opposed
to talking about Aaron freaking Grandpa game manager I'm gonna
keep going till I die.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, as far as you're saying like it just gases
you because of all the travel, that's true for anybody,
Like I get gassed when I go on big travel
and my honeymoon, I was jumping flight flight. It's worse
for you because you're sixty five.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I get it. And I'm just saying like that's a
common thing for everybody. And why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Because like when you travel via airplane, you're just going
to sit in a seat and fly, Like why are
you so tired after it?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And no one else is weird too?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like in the old days, when I was a casino
in a resort like that, I would have gambled and
drank like crazy. I barely gambled. You how much I
want a blackjack? I played like three hours of blackjack
about twenty five to fifty a hand. I won fifteen bucks.
That's good, though, I mean you just churning. You have
the fun of playing the game, Yes, and I did
every night I sat at the bar like there was
a live music. How about when I left GNR, the
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hard rock cafe right next to the venue, Like you
walk out, you're in the casino. They had a gn
R tribute band playing right when the show was letting out,
and they were awful.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's actually I think that's better than if they were good,
like come up, might have assaulted them.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But but yeah, but and then I like watched Marty
Supreme in my room, I read the Cameron Crow that
was mostly on the airplane. But like, I just do
different stuff now. I I relaxed a lot. Here's something
I value tom when I travel more than anything. Now,
can you guess what it is? It concerns the room.
What do I value about the room more than anything? No,
(29:38):
that's important. Yeah, shower. Gotta have a nice shower.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The shower was huge.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It had a bench to sit on, the water pressure
was high, the heat was good, and it had two
alternating fosts you could like switch on the wall. One
was the traditional shower head, but one was the rain
thing straight above.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Isn't that just the best? I want to look into
doing that at my house at some point. Honestly, I
love the rainfall kind of shower. Did it have one
of the things that you could take the other faucet?
Could you take it off the wall?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes, that's another The third foss You could take off
there one, which when you're old is a godsend.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's a godsend anytime. Just having that ability to be
flexible when you're young and you're a woman, it's a godsend.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You know, if you know what I mean. But I've
seen the forty year old Virgin.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that in ther Yeah, Elizabeth Banks
in the bathtub, Elizabeth, they all catch her and Seth
Rogan just kind of walks.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Into the room.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She did what other movies she did with Rogan? Zach
and Mary make a porno filmed here? Yeah, within and
they like, don't they do something with the Flyers mascot.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They beat him up or they shoot he.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Is a Flyers mascot and Penguins fans can go and
shoot pucks at him as he goes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Back outside before the game. Before the game.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, yes, it's Kevin Smith film. I think sax Man
took that gig over. People shoot pucks at him. No, no, no,
uh no, he just plays the Saxon. You know what's funny,
people say, sax Man.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You know sax Man.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah right, this is not older about fifty something, I'd say,
plays the sacks outside and if you don't tip him,
he gets Shirtley, Yes he does, but I do tip him,
so he likes me.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Just tip him. That's how you answer that bell.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, sax Man betrayed my father though, after a pick
game one year where Notre Dame fans tipped him and
he played the Notre Dame fight song. So he's never
tipping sax Man again.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
The only place where sax Man kind of betrayed me
was And he's pretty good. Oh, he's amazing. He can
play anything you pretty much ask him to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But but I've asked him to learn the sax solo
from Urgent Foreigner and he's never done it. You're like,
I'll be back next week. I bet I'll get to
that after your progress. I got you, I got you,
and I tip him, and it's it's all good. I
like him, all right. I'm not sure what we have next.
I'm not sure what we have for the rest of
the show. Uh, we do have Oh, we have the
course then YOEI then do Lax so we should find
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out a lot about stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
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Speaker 1 (32:23):
Two months ago I went to Palm Palm, this place
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Awesome place. Tom wan edus to go there all the time,
but not anymore. Uh that said, I don't know does
he still live here? Do we know?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't know where he's own basis. I think he
might still live here. He's in Atlanta a lot because
of his daughter playing for Georgia Gymnastics. Playing for Georgia Gymnastics,
she's on the teams.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
He's gymnastick Kings. Yes. For George's term is yeah, but
uh yeah, probably a little tougher for him to go
out in public. Now, okay, what are you going for
the trifecta?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
For today's trifector, Mark, I don't know if you saw
this news tomorrow. Did you see that Skip Bayless is
going back to first take to George Steven And it's weird.
It hits pretty weird, but it got me thinking of
some of the best like sports broadcasting duos not in
the booth like you know, some are all mad and
like you guys, yeah, other than that, and you do
a lot of the heavy lifting there of course. But
number three it I'm gonna go with Wilbond and Kornheiser.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That should be number one, you think, so you'll have
a tough time topping that with your next two.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, this isn't just TV studio, this is radio two
and these next two are radio wise.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Okay, But Wilbond and Kornheiser, that show set the standard
for all shows like it, which no other show even
tries to follow now, mainly because there's some dumb to dummies.
But Cornhadger Wilbond, we're selling smart and still doing it.
That's what I was just it's never stopped, it's still
going on. It's still long running and very successful.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Number two though on the radio side, and I guess
they were simulcast will be Mike and Mike Greenberg and Golic.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I mean, they were just such an iconic duo.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
They were great. I wouldn't put them quite in the
class with with with with mister Tony and Wilbon.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Okay, fair enough. Number one though, I would go with
Mike and the Mad Dog. I mean, I think that's
just your kind of cliche sports broadcasts do. That's personal bias,
though you don't like them very much, right, No.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
No, no, they have a place in Talk Rado history,
but I've heard them enough to know they're not as
good as the other two duos you mentioned, not even close.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It's amazing that they have a thirty for thirty made
about them though on New York and New.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
York counts more than anything New York in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That's what cod well, that's why there was a thirty
for thirty about the New York Sack Exchange too, right, like,
who cares about the Jets that never won anything and
just had.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
A guy gain and wondered about Mike and the Mad Dog. Yeah,
how much of their conflict was scripted?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And especially now that you see today's day and age
where all conflict is scripted, were they ahead of the
curve on that?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, maybe it was legitimate. I know they were
not like minded, you know what I mean, So maybe
maybe the conflict was legitimate. But I also know that,
like I've been told that the conflict on on The
Greenberg Show and certainly on the stephen A.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Smith Show, is scripted. Yeah, and you know, they they.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Decide before the show what they're gonna agree and disagree on.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Greeney and Gollic weren't exactly as friendly as it led
on to seem early in their career.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
They were for a long time, and then there was
a bit of a rent. I don't know, and I
don't know why to this date, I don't know why either.
I think if I had guess, I would think the
Greenie felt that he personally not grown the show and
wanted to become bigger and better, And you know, he
split with Golic, So I'm not sure. Sometimes it just happens,
So I don't blame either. Yeah, and they're both still
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extremely successful. I mean, but the Greenberg and Golic combination,
he would not be where he is. He would not
be the face of ESPN right like he is, Yeah,
you're ready. And he's younger than Golick too, and I is.
And I think if he had attached himself to the
older guy, I hate to say, this probably would have
got dragged down the way because because older guys always
have a career decline.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Golic's still doing phenomenal though, still doing west Wood One
broadcast for Sunday night football. He's such a good color commentator.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He is. He is a legit pro, no question. But
I would put uh Wilbond and Kornhei's a number one
number for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean, it's like, to go with me on this reference,
it's like the Simpsons of like sports debate shows, where
like it's just always it's the longest running thing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It just continues year after year to be renewed.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
And with those two guys, you know what I mean,
Like it's not like PTI still exists and it's a
couple of new hosts and they just kind of carry
the name on.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
For the most part, it's still those two.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Like summertime months, we'll see like the I Soolo's jump
on or like a Lebotard when he used to work there,
jump on. But like it's still mainly Cornheiser and Wilbam
when you tune in.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and Hogies
en Route eighty eight and Bethel Park family owned and
operated since nineteen sixty, Tom, did you see there are
now new pictures of Mike Frabele and Diana Russini. They
rented a boat and had a getaway when she was
seven months pregnant with the other guy's kid.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
At least that's what we think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, it was like a picture of them signing like
the document to rent the boat, and now there's video
out of them walking on the dock and she's very
very pregnant. Yes, it's it's amas that the kids she
named Mike, Yes, Michael, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know if it's all okay, there's no way
to not speculate. There's no way you can't speculate about that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But all the stuff that's coming out now, like after
the fact that people have been sitting on this for years,
like or do you think it's some guy who runs
this like you know Marina, and he's like, wait a.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Minute, Like these two were banging each other. That's Rabel
and Rossini.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I put that together and he like digs through files
and he's like, aha, I found it and he sends
it to TMZ seven.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Months pregnant with with with the other with the husband's kid.
It's disgusting. They both look worse than really.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Really, this may yet cost him his job, just not
that he'll get fired because he works for scumbag organization
where the owner frequents massage parlors. Not that there's anything
wrong with that, but but uh, I could see just
the pressure just building up and him quitting. And back
to what you're saying about the speculation. He was not
compromised professionally like she was. But but he just looks
like like a bigger scumbag every second. Honestly, the mental strain.
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I can't imagine that's going through mister Roussini's mind right now,
and his own freaking kid that he has.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
To call Michael. You know what I bet?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I bet they'll get divorced and Racine you'll marry Rabel. Wow,
And then someday somebody will will interview the kid and
then say, hey, how old were you when you first
met your step fall, And he goes, well, we bumped
into each other at a very early age one oh
five ninety x m
Door reupted with the Penguins. He's twenty six, solely off reupped.
He's twenty five. Malkin has not not yet, He's gonna
be forty. But the big story was on the mound
in Arizona last night. The real story in Pittsburgh is
the Pirates, because they could win something.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
If they could win if.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Because I hate absurdly over the top hype it, Paul
Skeins might really be the best pitcher ever, like Bob
Gibson in nineteen sixty eight. Level good eight innings last
night at Arizona, two hits, two singles. Skeens was untouchable,
but the Pirates only won one nil. You gotta get
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more bats, and you gotta go get him now, because
you get this guy in a playoff series and he
kicks off the best of three and pitches two times
in a longer series. The Pirates can legit win now
if they get more bats, because you can't win one
nil more than occasionally, and you can't win enough with
(01:11):
the offense they got Right now, they're in last place
in the NL Central. That ain't me picking on the Bucks,
fat ass. That's the standings. Go look at them. They're
in the last place in the Nlcentral. There are only
three games above five hundred, and that's with Paul Skiings.
And yet I know they can't field, they make base
(01:34):
running mistakes. There's a lot to not like about the Pirates,
but they got Paul Skiings and they can hit a
little bits. If they could hit a little bit more,
not a lot more, but a little bit more. This
is a playoff team. And then I don't think the
sky's limit, but I think you could win a wild
card round. You might even win a divisional round. But again,
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you can't win one nil more than just occasionally. The
story a ton ain't the old quarterback, and it ain't
the old Russian. It's the best pitcher in baseball in
his prime. And what can be accomplished if if this
(02:19):
is the Mark Madden show, fresh back from Guns n'
Roses and for Lauderdale. You heard the opening, you could
be mine great run up to the show has that
long Also, fresh off reading Cameron Crow's memoir the director
of Almost Famous Jerry Maguire, great rock writer when he
(02:42):
was just a teenage kid, Gonna talk about that more later,
would love to get him on the show.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Also, I saw Marty Supreme.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Shallomet is fool Proof, but I didn't quite get the movie,
for all its praise. And we'll talk about that because
I can only talk about the goddamn quarterback so much.
Somebody on the BT one said it's their civic duty
to talk about it. If it's my civic duty is
a Pittsburgh sports talk cooast to talk about it, I'm
(03:11):
gonna move to Conyell Lake see what they talk about
there on the radio, and it may come to that.
Let's talk now to Tommy Radio. Tom did you see that
last night at Arizona? The Diamondbacks couldn't touch him, did
not know what to do. They looked like when I
watch the games, I don't just watch the ball in
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play it being thrown, you know, no matter what sport.
I watched the players' faces. The Diamondbacks did not know
what to do.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I watched the entire thing last night.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It was such an amazing experience, you know, him being
perfect up until the end of that fifth inning and
kind of tracking that and keeping an eye on his
pitch count, and then Okay, the perfect game's gone and
no hitter's gone, let's go for that complete game. Shut
out because that's become a rarity now in Major League Baseball.
And the pitch count was so perfect for that too.
He was trending in that direction. Yeah, I would have
let him go. I would have done it. I would
(04:03):
have too, But I get it. I wonder if it
would have been a no hitter or a perfect game.
If that'll let him.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Fish, you have to if it's a perfect game and
no hitter, I think you have to put him in.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I think if it's a perfect game or not, or
he's just walking back off, he's making you come and
get a Soto, just get off the mound.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
He'll bully him off the mound.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah, that was the only drawback from last night's game
is he didn't get to complete it. But they won
the game one nothing, so I can't really complain too
much there. It was masterful stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Look at look at the two hits, like, I know,
an infield single and and a chintzy ball through the infield.
Well no, I was the second hit, but well we're
debating the quality of the two hits. My god, and
the first hit too.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I bet you Skeens wish he would have had that
back because if he fires off a good throat at
first base.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
He nails that guy.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, he can't feel that's his weakness. No, actually, I'm
at it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm assuming he can.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I just hasn't been tested when they strike out
all the time. I wonder what skeens his peak is,
because again I hate over the top hype, but I
think he's by foot well scooball but he's just Yeah.
I just wonder by how much but he is. And
I wonder about, you know, where he ranks all time already,
and certainly he has a lot of career in front
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of him. But I wonder about a one point five
era at some point in the season. And I wonder
about like twenty five wins, even with pitch count and
so forth, if they got some bats, he could post
that kind of year.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
He's like twenty five wins.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, he's not gonna get twenty five wins this year,
but he's got five already. That's second in the National League.
That's how much difference from last year compared to I
think got like five wins in the middle of July
or towards the end of July in last season. As
far as what his peak is like, I don't think
it is hyperbolic anymore to start saying he could be
the greatest pitcher of all time, at least one of
the greatest, maybe on that Mount rushmore of pitchers. As
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cliche as that is. I mean, from day one he
hit the scene and he's just dominated. And usually you
wait to see the league correct to him, and they
barely have.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And still the Pirates barely won, right, one run, seven hits,
only two extra base hits. They gotta get bats if
there's a legitimate commitment to winning. But I'm not talking
about a token bat at the deadline. I'm talking about
a legit bat, like nah.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
No, yeah, get it into early go whale hunting. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
The Mets are a team that had the high expectations.
They're floundering right now. So if you can poach somebody
from that roster, though that's going to be expensive. That's
the thing, though, Mark, to get a bat, like you're saying,
those guys are usually under contract that have a lot
of money tied to them, so you have to commit
as an owner to those.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
But do you think that that the Pirates will make
a move like that? Will notting get caught up in
the winning and the potential and schemes. Will he make
the most of it or will he revert back to
being Bob nutting? And I remain not convinced, but I
think it very likely Tom that he did when he
did this passed offseason by way of getting near what
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would be a CAP. More if the next CBA would
adopt a cap, so he wouldn't be scrambling throwing bigger
money at minimal talent.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
I think he might fall in love with what's happening here,
but I don't think that necessarily leads to him spending
even more to add somebody earlier or at that trade deadline.
I think he'll just convince himself that he did it
in the offseason. He's got Connor Griffin coming along, Paul
Skeen's is already on the roster. Let's just go with
what we have and hope it's for the best. But
it won't be enough.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Let me make clear, oh, that you lead right in
to my next point top I'm enthusiastic about the Pirates
and about Skins, more than a bit about the Pirates
in decades. If they don't add bats, they don't make
the playoffs. If this team continues as is. It's not
gonna make the playoffs. For one thing, it's not yet
had an injury of any significant point.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Who knows that? And if it's if it was the
skiing season over, but yes, even.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
If it was, like who's like an it like if
they lost like Law? Okay, a guy who's very good
hit a long home run last night, but it'd be done.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You shouldn't be done if you lose Brandon Law, but
they would be No.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
I agree with you. It's it's very tedious right now.
The Pirates are walking a fine line and there's just
too many holes in their lineup right now, too many
easy outs. I mean, Ozuna is just a black hole
at Pancy Park. Actually he's hitting like two eighty eighty,
it's really weird. But he's like under one hundred on
the road. Your DH can't be the easiest out in
your lineup. That's a massive hole that they have the
bottom of the lineup despite Griffin coming along. Now, that's
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a huge black hole in the lineup. I mean, Davis
is a nobody. Bart is at nobody as far as
the bad is concerned.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Now here's a philosophical question we'll get to on the
other side of the break, So don't talk down. Why
isn't this the big story? You got the best pitcher
in baseball maybe in baseball ever, you got a team
that never wins, that is showing clear potential to win,
and it's a town that's so starved for the pirates
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being good they usually overreact. But right now, the big
story is this old grizzled coward, yellow bellied, won't take
a hit, can't win no more, washed up for five
years quarterback, and we're tracking his flight to Pittsburgh like
a Santa's goddamn sled on New on Christmas Eve? How
is that the story when all it leads to is crap?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
How can that be the story? But it is.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It's all I hear about this guy, this old bastard,
this coward, this the old yeller, ain't no dog, won't
get hit. He gonna come in, get hurt and fail.
That's what's gonna happen. And you can't wait for it
to happen, except I think most of you would prefer didn't.
I think the voices you hear on the radio and
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read in print, I think they want him back.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I don't think you do. And I know for sure,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I want Mike McCarthy, the quarterback Guru, the real Pittsburgh guy,
not like the silver spoon Mexican War Streets guy who
forgot what his granddaddy's logo stands for, the Reilli Inser.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
The Greenfield guy. He can made this team out of
the woods. But it won't be with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It'll be with Aler or Howard, which is to say
Aler because Howard sucks. So let's get started on that.
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Speaker 1 (10:23):
Entera Live North America's weren't twenty twenty six. Anything is farcical,
and you're bringing back a forty two year old guy
who's scared of his own shadow.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Won't take it to make a play didn't play that good.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Last year, threw a pick six to wrap up a
playoff game, and we're tracking his arrival in Pittsburgh like
Santa's coming to town on his slave and it's Christmas Eve.
Hey kids, he's almost dear, except Rogers looks older than Santa.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. I don't get it even a little bit, uh, Tom.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I do want to talk a bit more about the
pirates though, And like I said, today's show is gonna
be all over the place, as it generally is when I.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Turn from vacation.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But you know what's gonna suck for the parts in
big games is the defense will let him down and
the base running will let him down. Like there was
bad base running last night cost him a run. And
in Reynolds and O'Neill cruise in the outfield, they just
they those two next to each other is treasonous if
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you're a starting pitcher.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it'd be one thing. I mean, O'Neal Cruz has
hit on and off.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
He's doing generally pretty well, yeah, but Reynolds is flailing
most of the time. As a good game now and again,
he's been a little bit hot lately. But I don't
see any alternative but my point is schemes ain't enough.
They need to go get more bats, and the sooner
the better.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
The alternative to the defensive problems in the outfield, which
by the way, I was looking at like the defensive
war metric, which isn't the end all be all. But
Reynolds is the worst defensive player qualified in baseball and
defensive war then cruises like a couple spots up. Then O'Hearn,
who I don't think has been that bad. He is
like a minus point four. So their entire outfield is
like in the bottom of the league.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Right field next to those guys. He goes like clementated.
But the problem there Renold. You know when you have
a good outfield tom oft if O'Hearn was your worst
defensive Hocke being really a first basement.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yes, absolutely, and making a transition you shouldn't have expected. Honestly,
what you've gotten out of him is better than I
think expectations for somebody playing a new position.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, but let's talk about the guys who suck. Yeah,
it drives me nuts.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, the fix to the outfield problem defensively is the
DFA Mozuna right and open up the DH spot for
Reynolds and then there you can move manglem into the.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Line even though it would cost you what the twelve
million you're paying Ozuona, that's baseball, right. If you want
to make the playoffs, you've got to make bold moves
and not wait to do them.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You gotta get somebody now. You got a dfao zoon
and I you got to clean up your defense now.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Although I had one guy tweet me, he goes, the
Pirates don't need more bats, they just need to run
the bases and play defense better. And I said, what
are you trying to win the Little League World Series?
Baseball is about scoring. Baseball's become like football, score more fast.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
And it's also impossible for the Pirates to play better
defense because they just suck at defense. They have too
many defensively deficient players.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Whenever I hear like other radio shows and on Twitter,
people debate how the Pirates could adjust things and fix things,
whether it's defense, whether it's get more offense in the lineup.
There are no solutions. They got what they got. They're
making the most of it. Like there's nobody to put
in there for Henry Davis. Nope, there's nobody although Nick
Gonzalez is hitting pretty good right now, but you want
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him to be the utility guy off the bench. There's
just and like those outfielders aren't gonna suddenly you know,
get gold gloffs.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
No, And you know, watching the game last night when
Skeens pitched the gym and they won one nothing, the
Diamondbacks were like the antithesis of what the Pirates are
in the field, Like they were making unbelievable plays, tracking
things down in the gaps in the outfield. Aeronauto had
the sparkler at third base to get in a big out,
and they like, you see, like how valuable that is.
And it kept a team that was struggling at the
plate in the game until the very last out because
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they just kept making plays in the field themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Now we got to talk about the report that Rogers
is coming to Ton and Tom. This is vintage Ladder
day media and the same outlets. One of their employees
had a scoop that Rogers is coming this weekend and
will sign. And then somebody else employed by the same
outlets said, if that's true, the Steelers don't know about it.
(14:12):
So someone has a scoop, they just don't know quite
which one. I tend to think he is coming to
town because guys like Breer and Rappaport have said us
as well. But I don't understand why this is dragged
on this long. I don't understand the value of bringing
him back at all. And it's about time somebody, although
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I've tried, but maybe not. Okay, this is a bad idea.
He sucks now. He's not even a top twenty five quarterback.
He's slow, he's scared. He won't get better. All the
guile in the world, he's got his connection with McCarthy,
if it still exists, it won't make up for the
things about him that suck.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Keith part there as won't get better, Like you can't
realistically expect him to age and then come back. And Oh,
I'm going to stand in there and make a play now,
Oh we have Michael Pittman and Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama.
I'm gonna sit there now and let them go downfield
and have them go over the middle fifteen twenty yards
down the field, even if it means I'm gonna get
hit from my blind side. To make this play like
that just doesn't all of a sudden happen for him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Especially with an offensive line that is uncertain right now.
In it's make up, it's gonna be ripped up again.
It'll be uncertain when the season starts.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
There's gonna be moving he he knows that his right
tackle feltone, which was probably over all the best offensive
lineman on the Steelers line last year.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
It's gonna be the left side this year. Like they're
gonna move him out of his great spot and now
he's gonna have uncomfortability on the right.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Sown't get me wrong. If that all works out, that's
the right move. Yeah, right move. But but you know
when it's gonna work out, if it works out, is
by next year. Okay, this and we got we got
some sound from Nick Wright and Dave Danishek saying the
Steelers are wasting a year by bringing him back, and
they are.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They should.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
They should just get their offensive line the way they
want it, have the quarterback guru, work with Alan Howard
and start Mason Rudolph to start the season. Sometimes you
have to write off a year, and nobody wants to
hear that out there, but it's because you're stupid.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
You got to write off a year to move forward.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You got like case in point Steelers, what one in
thirteen got Terry Bradshaw, what's six and ten got Ben Roethlisberger.
And we can babble all we want about defense and
renegade without Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. You can bring in me
and Joe Green, you can bring in Troy Pullamlou. Without
Bradshaw and Roethlisberger, this ton is stuck on zero super Bowls.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
That's just it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
And to be honest with you, that's why I don't
know if Drew Aller is going to be the lottery
ticket that pays off nor kne Why but ASA rip
it open right? Why would you throw an unscratched lottery
ticket into the trash can? You'd live with regret for
the rest of your life that that was the one?
Speaker 2 (16:34):
And don't you agree.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
That you got it?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like like, this just gives me so pissed. Why was
my track to thought? I babble, I stutter.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Because we have this like breaking news today, but all
it is what he's happened. He's hopping on a plane
like that, but it's presented that way. And then you
see these graphics ESPN likely to sign with the Steelers.
That's where we were in February, likely to sign with
the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
What is new? You know what the upside of uh
of of coming out with the dueling reports is they're
getting plugged as reported by. I mean, we'll see if
it's true. But you got Breer and rap report as
reported by.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Although I did didn't Rappaport not do that at first,
Like I don't think he gave the morning show credit
at all.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Over there the B team, Yeah, I don't know, I
don't know. I like that, slam them up, sneak in
there and take it. It probably is true.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Okay, But if you have confidence in your report, then
don't have the guy on saying well, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That, couldn't You also see that he hops the plane
and he comes to pittsburghcause I think that part's true.
Then he leaves without a deal done. Like we're in
the same spot on Monday, where it's just like Rogers
just popped in to check in.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Two key questions. Do you feel like that the citizens
don't want him to quarterback? Now?
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Like I had a Twitter pool and I'll talk about
that in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
In fact, let me dig it out now, but but
my Twitter pool, and and I know a Twitter poll
is poisoned by who posts it. For example, right of
eleven voting said they want Alur to start. I don't
even want Hour to start, Okay, I want him to
be groomed. Okay, but bit I want Rudolph to start,
Aller to take over midway through the year. Yes, the
people vote that way because they think that's what I think. Okay, Twitters,
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but here's the thing. Thirty five percent said Aler, twenty
eight percent said Howard, twenty percent said Rogers, seventy percent
said Rudolph.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Those people have been arrested. And although I'd be one
of them temporarily, but.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Okay, I could do math Tom eighty percent don't want Rogers. No.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I definitely think that the tide has turned there that
they're just done with Rogers. I think Aler kind of
accelerated that a little bit too, where you've got another option,
a super high ceiling option that's let's see what is
under that stone, turn it over.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Do you think the fans will turn on Roger if
he plays poorly.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
That's a great question. I don't know, because on we've
seen before, like social media on Twitter is different That's
exactly That's exactly what I was saying. Remember when they
benched justin Fields for Russell Wilson and Twitter was insane,
But then Russell Wilson runs out of that.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Tunnel and it was terrible. Towles go and not stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Twitter and the talk show callers always wame flurri for
the Penguins, you know, underachieving, they thought, you know, during
during the during the Flurry tenure after two thousand and nine,
Mark Andrey Fleurriy never got booed no matter what. Oh
at home and he was totally beloved, as his exhibition
farewell confirmed.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, so that's why I hesitate to say that he
would get booed at Akroscher Stadium. But I think the
pitchforks would definitely be out on social media. I think
I think they kind of are already. They're sick of this.
You're right, the Steelers nation as a whole wants to
turn the page of this old man and go with
their young quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
That's what they said about Bob Seger. And the other
burning question is.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you think Rogers will come to Pittsburgh via private
plane or first class private commercial?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
But first class private plane I don't know. I don't
know about that. I don't know. I think he's a
piece lildless money. Yes, no, you know what.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
You're right, because when he went to New York to
get cut, which is still hilarious, was there for eight seconds?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Got cut? I think he flew private. He flu private.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Now is there chancey Fla is private to come in
and say I retire? Do it face to face because
he's a classy guy. Face to face with me, with
Art Rooney, Yeah, with you, he'd sit down with Mark
Madden and say I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Nobody would appreciate him saying it more one oh five
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Speaker 1 (20:17):
Company if you're just tuning in. Aaron Rodger either is
or isn't coming to Pittsburgh. Either will or won't sign
more on this breaking story as it doesn't really break.
Uh No, I do believe he's coming. That's the report.
I mean Kabalis saying that the Steelers don't know about it. Yeah,
I mean Kabali's the one who's always said it's a
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done deal, and then he knows and they know, and
YadA YadA. I don't care. I'm just tired of all
of it. But I say to you, and if you
want to call, because today's show is going to.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Be all over the place. I'm this this Rogers stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I've rarely been more legitimately pissed about anything than the
way this Rogers thing has gone his tenure here almost
since minute one, the way he hes played the logo
for fools, the way he's dragged it out, you know,
to make the fans talk about it, which I believe
is his sole purpose. I just think he's a crappy
human being with with with with main character complex, just
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unbelievably narcissistic, and most important, I don't see the upside
of him playing. I think that the silver spooniinz there
is so desperate to win just one playoff game and
not keep letting down the legacy of Daddy and Granddaddy
that he's selling the team's soul to try to do so.
And it probably still won't happen anyway. Uh And so
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if you want to, I dare anybody to call me
and tell me why him coming back is good because
I don't think he can give me a logical reason
other than trying to eke out a measly playoff win.
And what was the score that Houston game again? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
And what happened on the last past he threw? Oh yeah,
now I remember, just a bunch of crap. The Stealers
are the Jets, Howard said it. I agree, the Steelers
are the Jets. And then there's the Geno saga. The
Penguins in Malkin's agent have not yet talked. I don't
think so. Yoey'll be on later to confirm or deny,
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probably deny in the spirit of the breaking news of
the last twenty four hours. No, Josh, we'll tell the truth.
I don't expect, not that anybody's.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Not, but I mean, who cares. It's Rogers who cares.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
I don't expect the Malkan thing will drag out. Like
with Rogers and the Steelers, free agency starts to lie.
First door reup today, solely off reup today. They're young guys,
not surprised to see it. Good moves by h Kyle
dubas the gm uh So. I think the Malkin thing
will be decided long before July first, maybe even by
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the end of this week, because unlike Rogers, Gino has
options unless Rogers doesn't, unless Geno doesn't. And Dubas never
planned to bring back malcam but he's got to. He's
got to now now. It's not a hill worth dying on.
Fans want it, the captain wants it, the locker room
wants it. A lot of the media is pushing for it,
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like and for the wrong reasons. They like they could
win now, get them help, blah blah blah, And they
absolutely can't win now cause you can't get him enough help.
I know there's forty six million available to spend in
free agency, the most cap space anybody has.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Look at who's available and unrestricted free agency. You think
Patrick Cannan Kleu Jeru can help.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I mean, the best fit among the names I see
for unrestricted free agency is Mason Marsman, who's kind of
like this crap disturbing winger for Columbus, who's thirty, and
I think he could help compartmentally, like on the third line.
But you know, the point is that forty six mil
in cap space you got, you can't tie up an
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old guys, because what if some of the guys you
develop hit then you can't afford to resign them. The
people who wanted to to keep Geno forever when I
said trade him at twenty eighteen, you know who would
be on your team right now if you trade a
Gino in twenty eighteen, bark Coff and Genseil.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Who would you rather have right now? Gino or bark
Cooff and.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Genzil, Because that's the choice that was made then, and
the new owners they're not gonna want to be the
bad guys letting Malkin go. And to be honest, you
got to let Sit and Gino and tang Are play
together on the Penguins as long as they want to.
And that path was chosen before Dubis and his plan
got here. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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It's just what almost now has to happen. In short,
I wouldn't keep Gino, but you gotta keep Geno. And
I will further illuminate that at the top of the
hour by recalling something that happened in twenty twenty four
when they traded Jake, and it was bad and it
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would be ten times worse now, Tom what do you
think I feel like they got to bring back Gino.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's not a hill that's worth dying on. No, No,
you're right, and they're going to bring back Gene. I
don't know. I don't know about that. Do you think
dudees might die on the hill? I think he might.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay, Well, if he does, then I know he'll have
some support on this show at least, because it's probably
the right decision to go forward.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm to be honest, I'm a big fan of Kyle.
I might just DoD shrap know if that decision gets made.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
I I lean towards he's gonna bring him back, though,
and that the decision what we made to bring back.
And it seems like it's gonna be a one year
deal too, which when there was that little kind of
rumbling of a potential two year deal that was just
getting absurd.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I don't know if they've talked yet. Yeah, I don't
think so either. I'm just widely speculating, to be honest
with you. But one year deal, Gino coming back, that seems.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Right to me. Yeah, But then he's gonna be on
the first power. That's the biggest drawback.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, the second line I can kind of live, course,
although I don't know why I would want. Maybe I
can't because it would be probably Malkin kindle a China
cough and it slows the line down and makes the
line about him.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, put it this way, I can. There's just no
good way to bring him back, but they got to anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I can stomach the second line thing a lot easier
than the first play thing. I mean, he's just you
can't have him on the first power play Hill block
Kendall Hillbock Chinakov. He'll block one of those guys, and
those two have to be PP one next year.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I forgot to mention Bill Zonen, who was one of
their first round picks last year. His junior year's done,
so he joined Wilkes for the playoff drive, which they're
currently leading. Hirshe I think two games two one. Yeah,
did you see the winning goaling Overbroarty. Yeah, it looked
like it didn't go in. It did go in, like
there was the one angle where you could tell it
went in like hit like the white right like doers.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Honestly, and game wasn't four or four or five when
he hit it off the back, not the crossbar, but
the bar inside the net and it pass right back out. Yeah,
what a great thing that's happening in Wilkes though, right
Mark Avery Hayes scores the tie and goal to force
that overtime. McGroarty with the game winning tip in like that,
that's what you want, right, Like you want these guys
to grow like that.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I don't think those guys are better than bottom six
is of the NHL. It's fine, but they're getting experience
and waiting. That's the guy I want to see the
big win keep winning. Yeah, how about the Hershey fans
refused to leave the arena because they believe the puck
didn't go in.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I saw that they were throwing stuff on the ice.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I don't blame him. I've been to Hershey. You know
what happens when you step outside that building. You were
at Hershey unless you want chalk. But it actually I
shouldn't say that because I'm going there to see Jason
Bonham Zeppelin thing soon and probably g in Argon too.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
But it's literally just the park right like in that
area around the park with like the Giant Center, Like
that's the only good part of Hershey.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, there's the Downtown's okay, Okay, I mean I just
wanted to crack a cheap joke, and not for the
first time either.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
You know what Tom I thought about. I'm gonna bare
my soul here.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
The travel for these concerts is really tough now that
I'm sixty five.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Okay, it really is.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Although I flew coach for the first time because Spirit
folded up right before my trip to Fort Lauderdale. I
flew coach aisle seat extra leg room on Jet Blue
and it was okay, Yeah, losing those seventy palms helped,
thank you, awaken one to eighty. But then I would
had to wait like five hours to come back when
the round trip, and I was dumb. I forgot you
can get from Fort Lauderdale where I was at, to
(27:57):
Miami's airport in like twenty five minutes. So I blew
off the Jet Blue flight, spent another like I don't
want to say how much, and flew first class home
from Miami in the middle of the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
But the point is.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
GNR was so good and I loved I just have
such a good time and things like that, as opposed
to talking about Aaron freaking Grandpa game manager I'm gonna
keep going till I die.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well, as far as you're saying like it just gases
you because of all the travel, that's true for anybody,
Like I get gassed when I go on big travel
and my honeymoon, I was jumping flight flight. It's worse
for you because you're sixty five.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I get it. And I'm just saying like that's a
common thing for everybody. And why do you think that is?
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Because like when you travel via airplane, you're just going
to sit in a seat and fly, Like why are
you so tired after it?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
And no one else is weird too?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Like in the old days, when I was a casino
in a resort like that, I would have gambled and
drank like crazy. I barely gambled. You how much I
want a blackjack? I played like three hours of blackjack
about twenty five to fifty a hand. I won fifteen bucks.
That's good, though, I mean you just churning. You have
the fun of playing the game, Yes, and I did
every night I sat at the bar like there was
a live music. How about when I left GNR, the
(29:02):
hard rock cafe right next to the venue, Like you
walk out, you're in the casino. They had a gn
R tribute band playing right when the show was letting out,
and they were awful.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
That's actually I think that's better than if they were good,
like come up, might have assaulted them.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
But but yeah, but and then I like watched Marty
Supreme in my room, I read the Cameron Crow that
was mostly on the airplane. But like, I just do
different stuff now. I I relaxed a lot. Here's something
I value tom when I travel more than anything. Now,
can you guess what it is? It concerns the room.
What do I value about the room more than anything? No,
(29:38):
that's important. Yeah, shower. Gotta have a nice shower.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The shower was huge.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
It had a bench to sit on, the water pressure
was high, the heat was good, and it had two
alternating fosts you could like switch on the wall. One
was the traditional shower head, but one was the rain
thing straight above.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Isn't that just the best? I want to look into
doing that at my house at some point. Honestly, I
love the rainfall kind of shower. Did it have one
of the things that you could take the other faucet?
Could you take it off the wall?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yes, that's another The third foss You could take off
there one, which when you're old is a godsend.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's a godsend anytime. Just having that ability to be
flexible when you're young and you're a woman, it's a godsend.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You know, if you know what I mean. But I've
seen the forty year old Virgin.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, is that in ther Yeah, Elizabeth Banks
in the bathtub, Elizabeth, they all catch her and Seth
Rogan just kind of walks.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Into the room.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
She did what other movies she did with Rogan? Zach
and Mary make a porno filmed here? Yeah, within and
they like, don't they do something with the Flyers mascot.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
They beat him up or they shoot he.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Is a Flyers mascot and Penguins fans can go and
shoot pucks at him as he goes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Back outside before the game. Before the game.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, yes, it's Kevin Smith film. I think sax Man
took that gig over. People shoot pucks at him. No, no, no,
uh no, he just plays the Saxon. You know what's funny,
people say, sax Man.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
You know sax Man.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah right, this is not older about fifty something, I'd say,
plays the sacks outside and if you don't tip him,
he gets Shirtley, Yes he does, but I do tip him,
so he likes me.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Just tip him. That's how you answer that bell.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Yeah, sax Man betrayed my father though, after a pick
game one year where Notre Dame fans tipped him and
he played the Notre Dame fight song. So he's never
tipping sax Man again.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
The only place where sax Man kind of betrayed me
was And he's pretty good. Oh, he's amazing. He can
play anything you pretty much ask him to.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
But but I've asked him to learn the sax solo
from Urgent Foreigner and he's never done it. You're like,
I'll be back next week. I bet I'll get to
that after your progress. I got you, I got you,
and I tip him, and it's it's all good. I
like him, all right. I'm not sure what we have next.
I'm not sure what we have for the rest of
the show. Uh, we do have Oh, we have the
course then YOEI then do Lax so we should find
(31:40):
out a lot about stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
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Speaker 1 (32:23):
Two months ago I went to Palm Palm, this place
in Shady Side with the sender Rova, Chendrovs and Fisherman.
Awesome place. Tom wan edus to go there all the time,
but not anymore. Uh that said, I don't know does
he still live here? Do we know?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I don't know what.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I don't know where he's own basis. I think he
might still live here. He's in Atlanta a lot because
of his daughter playing for Georgia Gymnastics. Playing for Georgia Gymnastics,
she's on the teams.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
He's gymnastick Kings. Yes. For George's term is yeah, but
uh yeah, probably a little tougher for him to go
out in public. Now, okay, what are you going for
the trifecta?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
For today's trifector, Mark, I don't know if you saw
this news tomorrow. Did you see that Skip Bayless is
going back to first take to George Steven And it's weird.
It hits pretty weird, but it got me thinking of
some of the best like sports broadcasting duos not in
the booth like you know, some are all mad and
like you guys, yeah, other than that, and you do
a lot of the heavy lifting there of course. But
number three it I'm gonna go with Wilbond and Kornheiser.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That should be number one, you think, so you'll have
a tough time topping that with your next two.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Well, this isn't just TV studio, this is radio two
and these next two are radio wise.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Okay, But Wilbond and Kornheiser, that show set the standard
for all shows like it, which no other show even
tries to follow now, mainly because there's some dumb to dummies.
But Cornhadger Wilbond, we're selling smart and still doing it.
That's what I was just it's never stopped, it's still
going on. It's still long running and very successful.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Number two though on the radio side, and I guess
they were simulcast will be Mike and Mike Greenberg and Golic.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I mean, they were just such an iconic duo.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
They were great. I wouldn't put them quite in the
class with with with with mister Tony and Wilbon.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Okay, fair enough. Number one though, I would go with
Mike and the Mad Dog. I mean, I think that's
just your kind of cliche sports broadcasts do. That's personal bias,
though you don't like them very much, right, No.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
No, no, they have a place in Talk Rado history,
but I've heard them enough to know they're not as
good as the other two duos you mentioned, not even close.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It's amazing that they have a thirty for thirty made
about them though on New York and New.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
York counts more than anything New York in LA.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
That's what cod well, that's why there was a thirty
for thirty about the New York Sack Exchange too, right, like,
who cares about the Jets that never won anything and
just had.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
A guy gain and wondered about Mike and the Mad Dog. Yeah,
how much of their conflict was scripted?
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And especially now that you see today's day and age
where all conflict is scripted, were they ahead of the
curve on that?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, maybe it was legitimate. I know they were
not like minded, you know what I mean, So maybe
maybe the conflict was legitimate. But I also know that,
like I've been told that the conflict on on The
Greenberg Show and certainly on the stephen A.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Smith Show, is scripted. Yeah, and you know, they they.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Decide before the show what they're gonna agree and disagree on.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Greeney and Gollic weren't exactly as friendly as it led
on to seem early in their career.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
They were for a long time, and then there was
a bit of a rent. I don't know, and I
don't know why to this date, I don't know why either.
I think if I had guess, I would think the
Greenie felt that he personally not grown the show and
wanted to become bigger and better, And you know, he
split with Golic, So I'm not sure. Sometimes it just happens,
So I don't blame either. Yeah, and they're both still
(35:20):
extremely successful. I mean, but the Greenberg and Golic combination,
he would not be where he is. He would not
be the face of ESPN right like he is, Yeah,
you're ready. And he's younger than Golick too, and I is.
And I think if he had attached himself to the
older guy, I hate to say, this probably would have
got dragged down the way because because older guys always
have a career decline.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Golic's still doing phenomenal though, still doing west Wood One
broadcast for Sunday night football. He's such a good color commentator.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
He is. He is a legit pro, no question. But
I would put uh Wilbond and Kornhei's a number one
number for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean, it's like, to go with me on this reference,
it's like the Simpsons of like sports debate shows, where
like it's just always it's the longest running thing.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
It just continues year after year to be renewed.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
And with those two guys, you know what I mean,
Like it's not like PTI still exists and it's a
couple of new hosts and they just kind of carry
the name on.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
For the most part, it's still those two.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Like summertime months, we'll see like the I Soolo's jump
on or like a Lebotard when he used to work there,
jump on. But like it's still mainly Cornheiser and Wilbam
when you tune in.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The trifecta brought to us by Danny's Peach and Hogies
en Route eighty eight and Bethel Park family owned and
operated since nineteen sixty, Tom, did you see there are
now new pictures of Mike Frabele and Diana Russini. They
rented a boat and had a getaway when she was
seven months pregnant with the other guy's kid.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
At least that's what we think it was.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, it was like a picture of them signing like
the document to rent the boat, and now there's video
out of them walking on the dock and she's very
very pregnant. Yes, it's it's amas that the kids she
named Mike, Yes, Michael, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I don't know if it's all okay, there's no way
to not speculate. There's no way you can't speculate about that.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
But all the stuff that's coming out now, like after
the fact that people have been sitting on this for years,
like or do you think it's some guy who runs
this like you know Marina, and he's like, wait a.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Minute, Like these two were banging each other. That's Rabel
and Rossini.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
I put that together and he like digs through files
and he's like, aha, I found it and he sends
it to TMZ seven.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Months pregnant with with with the other with the husband's kid.
It's disgusting. They both look worse than really.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Really, this may yet cost him his job, just not
that he'll get fired because he works for scumbag organization
where the owner frequents massage parlors. Not that there's anything
wrong with that, but but uh, I could see just
the pressure just building up and him quitting. And back
to what you're saying about the speculation. He was not
compromised professionally like she was. But but he just looks
like like a bigger scumbag every second. Honestly, the mental strain.
(37:40):
I can't imagine that's going through mister Roussini's mind right now,
and his own freaking kid that he has.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
To call Michael. You know what I bet?
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I bet they'll get divorced and Racine you'll marry Rabel. Wow,
And then someday somebody will will interview the kid and
then say, hey, how old were you when you first
met your step fall, And he goes, well, we bumped
into each other at a very early age one oh
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