January 20, 2026 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Mark Madden Show. You like it, you
love it, you want more of it. We got Connor
Clifton from the Penguins on at four thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
They're on the road.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
They won yesterday at Seattle, which we'll talk about. He
did a pretty funny bit interviewing teammates on the plane
to Seattle, and that kind of didn't go viral, but
a lot of people have seen it and like it.
So we'll talk to Clifton at four thirty. Between then
and now, we got Pierre Maguire at three thirty, Mike
Defabo talking Steelers at four pm.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But right now we got Tommy Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Tom do you agree that a lot of assumptions are
being made about the Steelers high that it's gonna be this,
it's gonna be that it's gonna be what it's always been?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I feel like people are just gonna assume, since you're
three for three, you're gonna go four for four. They
are assuming in terms of success and style, right yeah,
the whole nine yards. But they also are assuming that
it's gonna be a defensive minded guy, you know what
I mean, Like a young, up and coming defensive guy.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And I think that that assumption is correct.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I do think that they are going to go down
that path, and that's what kind of disturbs me the most,
because Shula and Schelhouse, I think, are the two front
runners as far as I'm concerned. I want to pick
from that Rams tree, but I would go with Sielhaus.
Just go with the offensive guy. Try a little bit
different than they are going to. I don't think they will.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Probably won't. That's correct. My assumption is still Chris Shula.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But do you think that they might rush to higher
if the Rams make the Super Bowl? If they can't
do interviews with them in person, they can interview them
on video.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Right, they've already did. They already talked to both of them.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, right, I'm wondering if I mean, what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I guess, but I don't know. I think I kind
of want to have that in person interview just to
feel it out.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Don't know, I do, But I would not disqualify them
from I would not rush to hire somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
If the Rams do make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You're just qualifying them from the successes of the team
that they're contry coributing to. Right now, that'd be so stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, like I keep saying, she Shula is the favor
favorite for me. I think he's safe. I think he's traditional. Uh,
sheel has is who would hire and I don't rule
him out. McCarthy's a long shot. And now an article
came out you see on Bleacher Report that McCarthy and
Rogers like hate each other's guts. I thought it was
(02:21):
merely like kind of butting heads, but apparently Rogers held
a grudge because McCarthy was the ocie at San Francisco
when they drafted Alex Smith instead of Rogers, and Rogers
held McCarthy responsible for that in perpetuity.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Sounds like Aaron Rodgers, right, Someone that would hold a
grudge like that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
An absolute petty dipstack.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Even though he won a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Yeah,
that's why I don't think it'd be a lock that
he would just bring Rogers back.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
If it's McCarthy, well, if he's not going to bring
Rogers back, from the team's point of view, there's no
reason to bring in McCarthy, then I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Probably McCarthy no matter what, Probably not. McCarthy's a good coach,
but it's it's over for him. He said two cycles.
Two I'd say two actually successful cycles. He won twelve
games with the Cowboys three three times, and that's a
tough situation with Jerry looking over your shoulder. He shouldn't
have been fired. He probably should still be heading that
ship right now, and just seeing that Dak Prescott era
through and then you finally decide to move on from him.
(03:15):
But it's Jerry Jones. So but it's done for Mike McCarthy.
I don't hate the interview though. I think it's it's smart.
You know, he is an experienced coach.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, no like like Allen Saunders said, maybe you're boonds
and some stuff off for coach that you could apply
vis a vis which young coach you decide to hire.
So for me, Shoe is the favorite. Sheeljas is kind
of a long shot, but with decent odds. And but
but honestly, after Shoel, I'd say a black guy gets hired.
I think the Rooney rule does figure in. That's not
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a bad thing. But I think just to be blind
to that figuring in that it's called the Rooney rule
would be foolish. Now there are reports that players are
lobbying to bring Rogers back. Can you believe the gall
of players on a team that haven't won a playoff
game in nine years going to management and say they
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want Rogers back, who was brought in specifically to win
a playoff game but didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And you know that's spearheaded by Watton Hayward.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The goal of players on a team that don't have
a coach right now to be going to ownership and
being like, we need this, we need that. How about
we figure out who the coach is going to be
first boys, And honestly, Mark, that's a bad sign right
for how this is gonna go. And if those guys
are gonna be good conduits to that locker room for
the new head coach, or if they're gonna be a
little bit resistant and be like, oh, Mike t didn't
do it this way.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't know about this guy who's.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Going to be the quarterback because they have zero idea,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You don't think Will Howard and Mason Rudolff, you just
rule that out. You crumple that up and throw it
in the trash.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I like that path.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think that's in their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think they should put it in their front pocket.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Maybe they shouldn't out loud put it in their front pocket,
but kind of just go their way through the offseason,
have it organically be the starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And then it pops up and it's like, hey, well
Howard and the fans would love it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They consider this, consider that, but they wind up going
to camp with Rudolph and Hocke.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and then some other guy that they picked, like
maybe seventh. I think he's out there right now. Unrestricted
free agency sucks. Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Paul's Ice made a good point that the NFL coaching
mary go round is out of control. When guys thought
to be very good coaches and with decent records, they
all got their walking papers within a short time. Whether
it's mcderbott, Harbaugh, Stefanski, Tomlin, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It is pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But I don't know if I disagree with any of
those teams moving on from their coaches. Do you like,
I see a lot of reason for everyone that you
just listened there. Yes, they're good coaches, but I mcer
and Buffalo you would have moved on from the GM, right, Yes,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So weird that he promoted himself.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, no is a mark. He's he's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
He's done a lot, not just for sports in Buffalo,
owning the Sabers and Bills, but obviously for Penn State Hockey,
built the rink.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He's paying Gavin McKenna his salary.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
If you wanted to get rid of James Franklin, Pagola
did that big Penn State a lot, a lot of influence.
But but h but the GM has Pagola's ear and
that's why he stayed and got the promotion and why
McDermott left. But I think that Bill's fans need to
take a good look if they're celebrating this. Josh Allen
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got their very raw out of Wyoming and McDermott developed
him into the best quarterback in the NFL. Not that
that's translated into winning anything. You know who got fired,
but he's a very good coach, and everybody knows it
is Mike McDaniel. He got canned in Miami, tom And
and got tagged with the geek label. I love what
(06:36):
when Rex Ryan makes fun of McDaniel for being a geek, Well,
you're a foot fetish meat had jagged off, and nobody
want you to exactly, so why don't you shut the
freak up? But everybody's interviewing McDaniel for their jobs, except
of course Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I honestly think, and maybe I'm foolish and and maybe
I'm missing something that the first fetish guy, Rex Ryan,
is getting. But I think the Raves and the Bill
should be in a race right now to get to
Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You shook the words right out of my mouth off
the notes page here, Tom, the Steelers better home.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Don't go to Baltimore because with his offensive brain, he
might maximize Lamar.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
He's the best running game coordinator I think football has
to offer as far as that side of things is concerned,
and I think he is good with a quarterback like
he did have to a playing at a high level
until the concussions just became overwhelming and Tua became a
shell of himself. Buffalo or Baltimore should be absolutely banging
down his door asking him what's going to take to
take over friendship, because Buffalo is a great running team too,
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and they could build up that way. And the other
thing McDaniel did in Miami that was good that Buffalo
so sorely needs. He got playmakers on the outside for
his quarterback hill and his prime and waddle.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I mean, that's speed right there. It would be perfect
for that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That said, everything you described also describes a team that
underachieved on McDaniel's watch. Then again, I think that was
mostly down to Tua.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Tom. We got Pirate talk up next. I bet you're
excited one oh five.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To nine prime and didn't really perform are particularly great
in those playoffs on his career playoffs exactly, And hey,
I don't want to hold that against him, because he
was great aut of time for the Pirates, of course,
But yes, it's time to move on. And by the way,
it's not just the Pirates that don't think he can't
play defense. Why doesn't anybody else ask to sign him? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Nobody else wants that bat in their lineup, No, they don't.
I don't think Roberto Klemene would have been begging for
a job on Twitter. Then again, he would have been
like an LA Dodger or a New York Yankee. As
soon as free agency permitted that Arm could have played
right field until he was sixty. Mark, Yeah, sad to
think about he I think he had three or four
more really good years left in him. Pirate talk's been
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kind of quiet, to say nothing of no more roster editions.
I guess they think they're good enough.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I guess which is so bad, because they're they're getting
close to being good enough, I think, to being a
wild card contender.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They just need that one bat And you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
People talking about all you gotta get cut, you got
to bring Cutch back before Pirate Fest starts and before
spring training starts. Everybody every day. If they're true Pirates
fans should be pounding the table for au Hennio Suarez
somebody like that. Put your chips in the table for
somebody there, not just bringing back the mascot to be
the DH. How'd you pronounce his first name, au Hennio?
(09:13):
Is that really how you pronounce it?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Should it be Eugenio?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I think it's au Henio. That's how he likes to
pronounce it. That's how they pronounce it when he comes
up to bat au Hennio Suarez. Could you imagine Guy
Junker saying that?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I could? That would be pretty awesome. You've talked me
into it.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It reminds me when I was a kid park Jari
in Montreal, where where a ten year old Mark Madden
went to see the Pirates play doubleheader in their seventy
one World Championship season and it got rained out. My
heart was broken. That's when Willie Stargel was rude to
my mother at the airport when I was getting autographs.
But but I digress. The announcer there they had a
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catcher now at bet for the Expos.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Number so and so John Buck g Bella. It was
like he ordering it Ala familia.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Just like that, just like that, like he was in
the scene in Inglorious Bastards in the theater.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, Dominique the Coco and Dominique
the Coca magrit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you also had a guy how about this for
and he was Rookie of the Year for the Exposed.
The catcher No, no, no, Buck, no Buccabella was like,
he's split time. How about I remember stuff like this?
Cy he split time behind the plate with John Bateman.
I remember remember the Expos catching battery. Back then, I
could I could name the lineups from like the seventies,
but not now, because I cared then. I was a
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kid who loved baseball, and the Pirates ruined it for me.
But but there's their third basement rookie of the year,
Coco Luboy Just uh great, great for a like that
francophone accent with the announcer.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It was just just tremendous.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What did you make of the National Championship game? I
thought it was a real good game. I thought Miami
was closer to winning then people figured. But but people
were saying it's the greatest game, the greatest story in
sports ever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think that's you know, the classic. We're all gonna
be hyperbolic right here in the face of seeing an
awesome game and just crowned immediately and say how great
this was.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It was the greatest ever. I mean, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It was awesome. I'm glad for Signetti.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm glad for Mendoza. That's like a great season, like
one of the best. That touchdown where he like flew
into the end zone. That was like Elway in the
Super Bowl ature moment the one year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So that was great.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
But like what I hear people saying, this is the
greatest story in sports history. Okay, let's start with the
Miracle on Ice in nineteen eighty, which this is nowhere
close to, not even remotely.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I'm not ready to even say it was the best
National championship game ever. As far as the.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Sport, I'm talking about the story of Indiana coming out
of nowhere sixteen to zero Signetti.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's a great story.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's awesome story, but yeah, not miracle on ice.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And to your point when you said people might not
be talking about as much how close Indiana was to
losing Carson Beck, dude, you drive that ball towards the
end zone, put a little bit more air on it,
let that receiver get under it. That's a touchdown. Like
most quarterbacks, Mason Hinchel's in that past Mark, I tell
you that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, he wouldn't, but that that picked in the game. Basically,
if that's a better ball, it's a touchdown, without question.
It was like the guy was open, he's behind the guy.
You go to the end zone there, you lead him
into the en zone with a little bit more pep
on it. He just kind of threw a lollipop. It
was an awful pass.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm happy for.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Even though he's like kind of the the big fat
drunk guy on on barstool is Mike Kdick, Who's my
buddy's kid I grew up with. I grew up with
with with Mike Senior, and and Mike's a good kid,
and he had a great career in Indiana. I think
his knees prohibited from going pro uh and I thought
he could have played. I if I were him, I
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would have got a couple of years out of it.
Maybe some workman's comp whatever the NFL version is in that.
But I'm glad that he's so happy they won. And
then a lot of people, including somebody on Indiana shouted
him out on TV, saying that Mike changed the culture there,
which I'm sure he did.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Mike just a team first type of kid.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
No, he's a huge part of it. Like I think
I heard his story, like he was to go to
the pros.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
He was thinking about doing that, and then he talked
to Signetti when he got there, because he was there
for Signette's first year last year, got him some nice
nil money, convinced him to come back be center for
that team. And as you heard on the podium from
all those players, like he was a huge bridge glue
guy for all the JMU guys that came in because
he was an Indiana guy there, so he bridged that
gap between the two.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Locker room Junior was a culture changer. His dad's a
real good guy. So I was glad to see him.
I'm sorry he didn't, you know, stick Around wasn't able
to another year.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But I saw Sloetti on the buses after saw him
and like, daft hi up and there's a clip of
sing you can hear him being like you were a big.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Part of this, and they could have used them too,
without question would have started.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh well, not only that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I mean, if there's one, I don't want to say weakness,
but their O line won't great last n oh, Like
in Miami, it's unbelieved the pressure they put up. That's
what made the game that Mendoza played so good. He
was under siege the whole game.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oh in the bloody lipt early in the act, like
three times in the road to open the second half.
It was crazy, and I do like that there was
a little bit of blood there. I hope he bladed
actually because that gets you over big time, right juice.
It was awesome though, just it was it was really
fun game. It does suck that everybody rushes to say
greatest of all time, better than the Miracle on the
ice though.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well they didn't say that. I mean that comparison has
not been made. But like it's not the greatest sports
story ever. By the way, if I play in the NHL,
would be gay because you know hidden rivalry of right,
he did rivalry, Well, there's a Freudian slip. But if
I played in NHL, I would keep a fingernail sharp
and every time I got high stick the juice.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, to get to get the double min or the major.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think that's great strategy. I don't know why players
don't do it. More.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Do you think Mendoza is going to be a good pro?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think his floor is really high.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Like, I think he's gonna be pretty decent, you know
what I mean, like a worse they'll become like an
Andy Dalton type of quarterback where he's just like, is
he good?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Isn't he good?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You get to the playoffs every night, and he's got
to take him? Right, he's number one this year. Let
me let me throw something out there.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I would consider we're I Vegas, Okay, And by the way, Davis,
what Mark Davis, the Raiders owner kid, right, Uh he
was there last night and yeah, yeah, so I mean, oh, Brady,
I forgot Brady's in the owner. Brady's gonna make sure
they take of course good Mendoza. But but I would
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see what's out there offered for that first pick, because
if it was overwhelming, if it was like a herschel
Walker type return, I'd consider it because even though I
think Mendoza has a chance to be, like you said,
a very high floor. I if I'm not sure he's
a nailed on super Bowl winning superstar, I might. I
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might see what I can get into trade.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, I think it's worth exploring for him. He's not
Andrew Luck. You know, Trevor Lawrence was like that when
he was coming out where it was like, this is
the clear number one pick, like he'll change your franchise.
I don't think Mendoza is at that level of a prospect,
so I think he got to entertain it. If someone
offers you like three first.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They won't they won't you.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I had forgotten about about Brady being part of Vegas's
ownership in football staff, love himself a winner into that
and totally violating every conflict of interest definition that's ever
ever existed by being on Fox I know, and yet
Matt Ryan he becomes team president of the Falcons, he
resigns like a gentleman from CBS.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He plays by the rules.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Because nobody's gonna tell Tom Brady he can't do anything
except Giselle one oh five ninety.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
Penguins made a trade.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They got defenseman I solo Off, Is that right, Ilia Soliyoff,
defenseman from Colorado, Belarussian, in exchange for the winger Pustin
and who played here a bunch of times and really
was small and useless.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And they threw in a seven tron pick. I don't
know anything about this.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Soul of you off, but but hey, what the heck
can't hurt because all they give up was Pustin in
h I'm going to the North Hills game tonight. I
think Tom north Hill's hosting Butler. The team's tied for
second place in the section and only a game back
of I think Newcastle is the leader. North Hill's gotta
beat by Newcastle. Last week former Newcastle cheerleader Jen Balano,
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no dot happy about that, And Tom, I want to
talk about soup. Are you a fan of soup? So yeah,
I found myself in a discussion on Twitter last night
about soup, and I love soup, especially this time of year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Here's a question, this chili Kana soup. That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think no. I don't think it does count a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I think probably no too, but I'm still gonna eat it.
Of course, chili too, Like chili and soup are just
awesome for winter. And I love all those different different
Mexican kitchen type of soups, like chicken tortilla soup and
chilata soup. And then like some of this stuff is
almost like a stew, not soup, like like stuffed pepper soup,
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the stuff that's really thick, loaded potato soup. I love
wedding soup. I love tomato soup. I've had grilled cheese
and tomato soup. Now another question is soup.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, I think soup is a meal. I think it does.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Depend on the soup though, if it's like a party
or to be a big bull. This is just episode.
They already did this episode when they were asking about that.
If it's hardy, I think yes, it is a meal,
bigger bowl for sure. Like you're talking like a chowder,
you're talking like something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's chapter soup. That's a tough one too, right.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I think chowder is soup. Does that conflict me saying
chili isn't? I don't think so. I think I'm good.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
There might be a bridge.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't think I'm hypocritical there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The bridge between soup and chili. You might be chod.
And again, I've been in New England.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I've got seafood Chotter it has There's this place the
no name on the dock in Boston.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was at years ago. I'm sure it's still there.
It's a very traditional.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Seafood restaurant and basically they take whatever seafood they have
a bunch of that day's catch and throw it in chowder.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Sounds so good.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And you can literally get lobster in there like anything
like gal Yeah. No, I've been there two or three times.
It's always excellent. Fact, I'd like to get back there
at some point before I croak. Those are some of
my favorite soups.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Mark is the seafood kind of variety of soups, the
clam chowders, the lobster bisks, the crab soups.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Those are awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now there's this place on McKnight Road called Stokes Grill
and it's great for soup. They have like this big
sign with eight or nine different soups every day. And
soup was a big deal in the winter when I
was a kid, even out of a can, like it
felt like something special when you come in, like from
playing street hockey in the cold, and you know your
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you know, my mom or my grandma would make make
soup out of a can.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Now here's what I don't like. I don't like chilled soups.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I don't even know if I've had a children.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, not interesting.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't even think I've tried it, to be honest
with you, that wouldn't appeal to me. The part of
soup that's so appealing is that warmness of it. I'm
not the biggest fan of French onion soup.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I don't know. When's the last time I've had
French onion.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know what, it depends how you make it, Okay,
friends onion soup with like the the huge triple layer
of cheese on top.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And the onion.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's just cheese. Okay, that's soup. That's just cheese.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I like minimal cheese and a lot of onions chopped
up in kind of a spicy broth, which the onions
would make it.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I like the onions choped up too.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't like it when they're like thicker onions in there,
but I'm not I wouldn't gravitate towards fresh onion soup
if I had other choices. It's not one of my favorites.
Now you're a sprinkle like crackers into a soup guy, right.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It depends.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It depends on not like like what I Well, the
best soup for a waking one eighty is their tomato soup.
And I don't know if you're supposed to make it
this way, but to me, the most even way is
I run water through my cure eg without a cup,
and the hot water it's the perfect temperature when it
hits the soup mixed. Yeah, and their Italian tomato is
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very good. But they make these like vegetable chips. I
do crumble up the vegetable chips. That sounds good to
put in air. It is good that's their best soup
forty seven pounds later. Do Awaken one eighty. They'll pay
me more if you do, but I normally don't. To me,
I'll take like a couple of spoons the soup, and
if it doesn't have the thickness, then I will, you know,
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put like like crackers or whatever into it. But it's
not something I look to do. Now Here's how I
define soup as a meal. I like soup with either
a small salad, a half sandwich, or fries like some
small side dish, and I will dip the fries in
the soup depending on the soup.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like fries and tomato soup, that's a winner.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean I'm open for that, but I still
think like a nice big bowl of like a chop
with potatoes in there, Yes, without any of the sides.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I can get away with that, like that can be
my lunch.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But if you get like a cup of tomato soup
with fries, cup of tomato soup with half a sandwich,
cup of tomato soup with a salad.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It's also one of my favorite moves that really any
restaurant I go to is to just take a look
at that soup. Menu before I get my main meal
and just say, like, do we have anything nice on
the soup menu today? Then I might want to have
a little cup of just for a little taste. I
love soup so much. Do you do bread bowls?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Are you fan of that?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's too much, it's too much. It overwhelms, that's fair.
And you know what else?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't like when I get like a like a
taco salad if they have the tortilla bowl, I don't
like that either too much.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's too much.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, but yeah, boy, I wish I was like eleven again,
Tom with my dog and my mom and grandma and
an aunt and soup and soup, super big souper.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think more so back then, sup a big part
of the households than it is now. I'll tell you what,
I would much rather talk about soup than the freaking
Steelers coaching search. You know, as you just said, do
you know why I can leave here and go have soup?
Maybe it's still grow Whereas with the Steelers coaching search,
I don't feel like it's going to be decided. I mean,
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I think it will go till after the Super Bowl. Well,
it depends if the Rams I think that the Rams
go out in the Conference Championship, I think they'll decide,
not necessarily to pick one of those guys, but I
think they'll talk to them and decide within a couple
of days.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
They can talk to them if they win. If they
win and go to the super Bowl, you're open. It's
open season because they have that bye week. So as yeah,
I'm positive permit yep, they're allowed to do that, but
they don't permit like now right, No, you can't do
it now. They got to get to the Conference championship
game first. Would you got to wait for that?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
How would you feel if you're the Rams, those guys
taking away from prep time to do the interview?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I guess you can't say it's a minimal.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's the bye week before the super Bowl, and it's
gonna be scheduled, you know, that Monday or Tuesday, right
after the Conference champion.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And it's still like college where if you hired Schule,
you would make him leave right now to start.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Preparing exactly he's still coaching the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
They wouldn't name Shula while he's still coaching in the
Super Bowl, would do that.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I think it's I think that's on a faric game.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's going to be Shoel in it.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I hope it kind of is. I kind of think
that would be smart.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Here's why I hope it's Schuler. I like that McVeigh tree.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, if it's not Schule or shiel House, it'll be
a bad pick. I'm telling you it'll be a bad pick.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
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Speaker 3 (23:57):
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Speaker 1 (24:24):
First hour of the show brought to aspire good friends
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the others charged forty. Tom, what have we got for
today's trifectam?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For today's trifectam?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Mark, Since we're in the midst of a coaching search
right now for the Steelers, I picked three coaching hires
in movies that I think you could say are objectively
bad coaching hires. This is going to take some explaining
for these because they're movies, right, So a lot of
these coaches are getting over number three. I'll put Jimmy
Dugan on there in a league of their own, because
he did work out and did help the team in
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the end. But you have to say, at the time,
what a terrible move that was. He was a fallover
or drunk. He was a sexist. I mean, he was terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Higher, let me ask you, Jimmy, you're still a fall
down drunk. Well, that certainly is blunt.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Mister Harvey number two, and you're gonna have to go
with the other one. I'm gonna go with Jackie Moon
and his decision to hire himself to be the head coach.
Just a terrible head coach.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But come on, guys, he plays power forward for his
own team, but.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He follows it up with a great head coaching higher
with monics.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Although actually, now that I'm thinking about it, he was
kind of mutinied into making that higher.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, no, no, Jackie was still the head coach monics
was offensive defens how.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Can I forget That's blasphemous that I would forget that
OC and DC monics. Number one though, is Lou Brown
from Major League, Because from Rachel Phelps's perspective, it was
the absolute worst hire she could have ever made. Right,
she was hiring guy to look to fail and he
was the best manager to win.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's one of the logic holes. Well, every movie has
a lot of holes in logic. But the GM Charlie
Dunovan didn't know who lu Bron was. Of course he
would know who he was if he managed in the
minor league to the Toledo Mudhens right right right.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Down the road.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I assumed they were the farm team and the Indians
in the storyline. But one of my favorite lines that
movie is, Lou, how would you like to manage the
Cleveland Indians?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I don't know, Charlie.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I've got a guy in the other line about some
white walls. I'm gonna have to get back to you.
Just tremendous stuff. That's a good trifecta. Brought to us
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Bethel Park. Tom I gotten a bit of a skirmish,
a short one with a guy on Twitter. He's like
a podcast, a blogger, some like X minor league hockey
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guy who thinks he's an expert. And he said that
you know, Taves came back to Chicago last night playing
for Winnipeg, right, And by the way, Tave stinks now awful.
And he said every kid grew every kid playing hockey
grew up wanting to be like Jonathan Paves, like every center.
And I go, what you never heard of, Sydney Crossby?
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And I said, Taves is the most overrated player that
I remembered Hawk history. And the guy of course, and
a lot of people on Twitter forgot that when you
say overrated, it doesn't mean the guy blows or was insignificant.
It means he's just not as good as people say
like Taves should have never been. Remember that centennial the
NHL's top one hundred players. Taves made it and Malkin didn't.
(27:18):
That's absurd talking so much better than Taves in his prime,
and and certainly now look who had the staying power.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I used to you know, high school into college, Tom,
you know, that's that stretch when the black Hawks we running,
then into the Penguins winning. Used to hate Jonathan Taves
just because of the comparisons that would always be made
to Sand and how people would try to put them
on that same pedestal.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Sarah Spain, Who's just a dipstick. He's a leader, He's
the greatest. I mean, come on, Sid's a better leader.
Sid's a bigger winner, yes, and better everything. And Taves
did win three Cups and he was the captain. But
but but the podcaster said, you know, talking about Taves
as gold medals. Okay, Like, okay, Sid was on those
teams too. There's been a lot more.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's got the golden goal. Maybe you've heard of it.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Also, Mark Taves great player, don't get me wrong, and
it is prime a huge contributor to the Blackhawks dynasty.
Then that run Kine was the best player on the
team though, like it was Patty Kane's Blackhawks. No one
thinks that Jonathan Taves was the one driving.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And you can argue that Duncan Keith made impact. Yeah
yeah on defense.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Tom of the coaching dismissals and we're including Tom Win
in that even though he did quit, and he did quit.
But the of the of the guys who left their jobs,
which one should feel the most hard done by, which
in your mind was a bad firing.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's a really great question.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It might honestly be Stefanski because his ownership just completely
hijacked pretty much every decision making. He couldn't Watson contract doom, Yeah,
and I don't know if he was, and then drafting
I mean not after drafting Gabriel right right at the
owner's behest.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, that didn't help Stefanski either.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Because you know, the owner just saw Shador keep slipping
and slipping and he was like, get it on the
phone right now and get me Stefanski into that war room.
We gotta take Shador. It's falling into our laps right now.
So he was just dealing with a medaling owner a lot,
and through that he was still able to make the
playoffs a couple times with the Browns, beat the Steelers
in the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Got coach here twice.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, like you said, beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in
a playoff game, which he's such a superior coach, he
didn't even have to show up for that. Remember he
had coached Couch, right, right, right. I think he might
be right, But I would say it's McDermott because of that.
As I mentioned earlier, McDermott deserves some credit for developing
Allen and Buffalo because Alan came from Wyoming hardly a
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football power, was very raw, no guarantees when you brought
him in. And obviously you know a lot of people
went into developing Josh Allen there, but probably nobody more
than McDermott. And under McDermott, Allen became the best quarterback
in football. I'llbeit a guy who can't win big games.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
The only thing I would say against McDermott, though, is
the defense for the Bills just hasn't been able to
really catch up to that offensive side of the ball.
They haven't been able to feel a defense recently that's
good enough to get to a super Bowl with Josh Allen,
and that's his that's what he's supposed to bring to
the table, So I would say that's a point against him.
But I think Bean it should have been a total
clean house if you're gonna do anything from Bakula. The
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fact that Beans still gets to stay around The number
one problem is that roster can struct.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I said, beans has Pagola his ear. That's how you
survive with Pogol. You have his ear, you get to
meet with him. Ever, it's like, I'll give it an example.
I hope, I hope wrestling fans are listening. It's like
AE W with Tony Kahan.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Who's who we like?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Tony was in the studio. But if you're Tony's buddy,
you get a lot of TV time. If you have
his ear, you're a star.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's the way to get on. Just talk him up.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's not the way to wanting.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Uh taul one one last thing before before we end
the first hour. If you could pick one guy for
the Steelers not to hire, who would be Who's who
would be the worst hire they could make? And I
want the fans to call in at the fans I
saw like mister Friday afternoon. I want callers at a three, three,
four one two w XDX. Who's the guy you wouldn't hire?
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That'll be for calls on the fifties. But who's the
guy you wouldn't hire?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's two guys in my mind right now, it's the
Weaver guy in Miami or it's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy
gives me pause because he's an offensive mine, but I'll
final answer Mike McCarthy don't why.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Why don't you want him to hire?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I just don't feel like he has any juice. Really,
I feel like there's a lot of other guys that
have more juice.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I don't disagree. You know who I wouldn't hire. I
don't think of Miami's defense too. I think Forest. Why
are people ignoring that Forest was an absolute disaster as
a head.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Coach in Miami.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
McDaniel far greater success in Miami as a head coach,
and the Steelers don't want to talk to him at all.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I gotta be honest, I'm I'm outraged they never talked
to Stefanski. I'm getting to that point with Mike McDaniel
based on how many teams are talking to him, although
time will tell if somebody hires him. But if he
goes to Baltimore, the Steelers are gonna get trampled by
Lamar under McDaniel, mark my words.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Think would be great high for them.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Like I said, I think Buffalo and Baltimore should both
be trying to get into bed with him, he'd be
perfect for them.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I think Steeler fans need to be patient Tom,
because a new day will dawn for those who's wait.
I've done that a couple of times in the last week.
One oh five nine the X.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Now here's your chance to win one that
This is the Mark Madden Show. You like it, you
love it, you want more of it. We got Connor
Clifton from the Penguins on at four thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
They're on the road.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
They won yesterday at Seattle, which we'll talk about. He
did a pretty funny bit interviewing teammates on the plane
to Seattle, and that kind of didn't go viral, but
a lot of people have seen it and like it.
So we'll talk to Clifton at four thirty. Between then
and now, we got Pierre Maguire at three thirty, Mike
Defabo talking Steelers at four pm.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
But right now we got Tommy Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Tom do you agree that a lot of assumptions are
being made about the Steelers high that it's gonna be this,
it's gonna be that it's gonna be what it's always been?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yeah? Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I feel like people are just gonna assume, since you're
three for three, you're gonna go four for four. They
are assuming in terms of success and style, right yeah,
the whole nine yards. But they also are assuming that
it's gonna be a defensive minded guy, you know what
I mean, Like a young, up and coming defensive guy.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And I think that that assumption is correct.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I do think that they are going to go down
that path, and that's what kind of disturbs me the most,
because Shula and Schelhouse, I think, are the two front
runners as far as I'm concerned. I want to pick
from that Rams tree, but I would go with Sielhaus.
Just go with the offensive guy. Try a little bit
different than they are going to. I don't think they will.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Probably won't. That's correct. My assumption is still Chris Shula.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
But do you think that they might rush to higher
if the Rams make the Super Bowl? If they can't
do interviews with them in person, they can interview them
on video.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Right, they've already did. They already talked to both of them.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, right, I'm wondering if I mean, what's the difference.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I guess, but I don't know. I think I kind
of want to have that in person interview just to
feel it out.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Don't know, I do, But I would not disqualify them
from I would not rush to hire somebody.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
If the Rams do make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You're just qualifying them from the successes of the team
that they're contry coributing to. Right now, that'd be so stupid.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, like I keep saying, she Shula is the favor
favorite for me. I think he's safe. I think he's traditional. Uh,
sheel has is who would hire and I don't rule
him out. McCarthy's a long shot. And now an article
came out you see on Bleacher Report that McCarthy and
Rogers like hate each other's guts. I thought it was
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merely like kind of butting heads, but apparently Rogers held
a grudge because McCarthy was the ocie at San Francisco
when they drafted Alex Smith instead of Rogers, and Rogers
held McCarthy responsible for that in perpetuity.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Sounds like Aaron Rodgers, right, Someone that would hold a
grudge like that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
An absolute petty dipstack.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Even though he won a Super Bowl with Mike McCarthy. Yeah,
that's why I don't think it'd be a lock that
he would just bring Rogers back.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
If it's McCarthy, well, if he's not going to bring
Rogers back, from the team's point of view, there's no
reason to bring in McCarthy, then I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Probably McCarthy no matter what, Probably not. McCarthy's a good coach,
but it's it's over for him. He said two cycles.
Two I'd say two actually successful cycles. He won twelve
games with the Cowboys three three times, and that's a
tough situation with Jerry looking over your shoulder. He shouldn't
have been fired. He probably should still be heading that
ship right now, and just seeing that Dak Prescott era
through and then you finally decide to move on from him.
(03:15):
But it's Jerry Jones. So but it's done for Mike McCarthy.
I don't hate the interview though. I think it's it's smart.
You know, he is an experienced coach.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, no like like Allen Saunders said, maybe you're boonds
and some stuff off for coach that you could apply
vis a vis which young coach you decide to hire.
So for me, Shoe is the favorite. Sheeljas is kind
of a long shot, but with decent odds. And but
but honestly, after Shoel, I'd say a black guy gets hired.
I think the Rooney rule does figure in. That's not
(03:44):
a bad thing. But I think just to be blind
to that figuring in that it's called the Rooney rule
would be foolish. Now there are reports that players are
lobbying to bring Rogers back. Can you believe the gall
of players on a team that haven't won a playoff
game in nine years going to management and say they
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want Rogers back, who was brought in specifically to win
a playoff game but didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
And you know that's spearheaded by Watton Hayward.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
The goal of players on a team that don't have
a coach right now to be going to ownership and
being like, we need this, we need that. How about
we figure out who the coach is going to be
first boys, And honestly, Mark, that's a bad sign right
for how this is gonna go. And if those guys
are gonna be good conduits to that locker room for
the new head coach, or if they're gonna be a
little bit resistant and be like, oh, Mike t didn't
do it this way.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I don't know about this guy who's.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Going to be the quarterback because they have zero idea,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
You don't think Will Howard and Mason Rudolff, you just
rule that out. You crumple that up and throw it
in the trash.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I like that path.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I think that's in their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I think they should put it in their front pocket.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Maybe they shouldn't out loud put it in their front pocket,
but kind of just go their way through the offseason,
have it organically be the starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
And then it pops up and it's like, hey, well
Howard and the fans would love it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
They consider this, consider that, but they wind up going
to camp with Rudolph and Hocke.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Yeah, and then some other guy that they picked, like
maybe seventh. I think he's out there right now. Unrestricted
free agency sucks. Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Paul's Ice made a good point that the NFL coaching
mary go round is out of control. When guys thought
to be very good coaches and with decent records, they
all got their walking papers within a short time. Whether
it's mcderbott, Harbaugh, Stefanski, Tomlin, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
It is pretty wild.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But I don't know if I disagree with any of
those teams moving on from their coaches. Do you like,
I see a lot of reason for everyone that you
just listened there. Yes, they're good coaches, but I mcer
and Buffalo you would have moved on from the GM, right, Yes,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So weird that he promoted himself.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, no is a mark. He's he's a good guy.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
He's done a lot, not just for sports in Buffalo,
owning the Sabers and Bills, but obviously for Penn State Hockey,
built the rink.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
He's paying Gavin McKenna his salary.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
If you wanted to get rid of James Franklin, Pagola
did that big Penn State a lot, a lot of influence.
But but h but the GM has Pagola's ear and
that's why he stayed and got the promotion and why
McDermott left. But I think that Bill's fans need to
take a good look if they're celebrating this. Josh Allen
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got their very raw out of Wyoming and McDermott developed
him into the best quarterback in the NFL. Not that
that's translated into winning anything. You know who got fired,
but he's a very good coach, and everybody knows it
is Mike McDaniel. He got canned in Miami, tom And
and got tagged with the geek label. I love what
(06:36):
when Rex Ryan makes fun of McDaniel for being a geek, Well,
you're a foot fetish meat had jagged off, and nobody
want you to exactly, so why don't you shut the
freak up? But everybody's interviewing McDaniel for their jobs, except
of course Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I honestly think, and maybe I'm foolish and and maybe
I'm missing something that the first fetish guy, Rex Ryan,
is getting. But I think the Raves and the Bill
should be in a race right now to get to
Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
You shook the words right out of my mouth off
the notes page here, Tom, the Steelers better home.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Don't go to Baltimore because with his offensive brain, he
might maximize Lamar.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
He's the best running game coordinator I think football has
to offer as far as that side of things is concerned,
and I think he is good with a quarterback like
he did have to a playing at a high level
until the concussions just became overwhelming and Tua became a
shell of himself. Buffalo or Baltimore should be absolutely banging
down his door asking him what's going to take to
take over friendship, because Buffalo is a great running team too,
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and they could build up that way. And the other
thing McDaniel did in Miami that was good that Buffalo
so sorely needs. He got playmakers on the outside for
his quarterback hill and his prime and waddle.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I mean, that's speed right there. It would be perfect
for that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
That said, everything you described also describes a team that
underachieved on McDaniel's watch. Then again, I think that was
mostly down to Tua.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Tom. We got Pirate talk up next. I bet you're
excited one oh five.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To nine prime and didn't really perform are particularly great
in those playoffs on his career playoffs exactly, And hey,
I don't want to hold that against him, because he
was great aut of time for the Pirates, of course,
But yes, it's time to move on. And by the way,
it's not just the Pirates that don't think he can't
play defense. Why doesn't anybody else ask to sign him? Right?
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Nobody else wants that bat in their lineup, No, they don't.
I don't think Roberto Klemene would have been begging for
a job on Twitter. Then again, he would have been
like an LA Dodger or a New York Yankee. As
soon as free agency permitted that Arm could have played
right field until he was sixty. Mark, Yeah, sad to
think about he I think he had three or four
more really good years left in him. Pirate talk's been
(08:40):
kind of quiet, to say nothing of no more roster editions.
I guess they think they're good enough.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I guess which is so bad, because they're they're getting
close to being good enough, I think, to being a
wild card contender.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
They just need that one bat And you know.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
People talking about all you gotta get cut, you got
to bring Cutch back before Pirate Fest starts and before
spring training starts. Everybody every day. If they're true Pirates
fans should be pounding the table for au Hennio Suarez
somebody like that. Put your chips in the table for
somebody there, not just bringing back the mascot to be
the DH. How'd you pronounce his first name, au Hennio?
(09:13):
Is that really how you pronounce it?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Should it be Eugenio?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I think it's au Henio. That's how he likes to
pronounce it. That's how they pronounce it when he comes
up to bat au Hennio Suarez. Could you imagine Guy
Junker saying that?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I could? That would be pretty awesome. You've talked me
into it.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
It reminds me when I was a kid park Jari
in Montreal, where where a ten year old Mark Madden
went to see the Pirates play doubleheader in their seventy
one World Championship season and it got rained out. My
heart was broken. That's when Willie Stargel was rude to
my mother at the airport when I was getting autographs.
But but I digress. The announcer there they had a
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catcher now at bet for the Expos.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Number so and so John Buck g Bella. It was
like he ordering it Ala familia.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Just like that, just like that, like he was in
the scene in Inglorious Bastards in the theater.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, that's right, that's right, Dominique the Coco and Dominique
the Coca magrit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And you also had a guy how about this for
and he was Rookie of the Year for the Exposed.
The catcher No, no, no, Buck, no Buccabella was like,
he's split time. How about I remember stuff like this?
Cy he split time behind the plate with John Bateman.
I remember remember the Expos catching battery. Back then, I
could I could name the lineups from like the seventies,
but not now, because I cared then. I was a
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kid who loved baseball, and the Pirates ruined it for me.
But but there's their third basement rookie of the year,
Coco Luboy Just uh great, great for a like that
francophone accent with the announcer.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It was just just tremendous.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What did you make of the National Championship game? I
thought it was a real good game. I thought Miami
was closer to winning then people figured. But but people
were saying it's the greatest game, the greatest story in
sports ever.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
No.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think that's you know, the classic. We're all gonna
be hyperbolic right here in the face of seeing an
awesome game and just crowned immediately and say how great
this was.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It was the greatest ever. I mean, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It was awesome. I'm glad for Signetti.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I'm glad for Mendoza. That's like a great season, like
one of the best. That touchdown where he like flew
into the end zone. That was like Elway in the
Super Bowl ature moment the one year.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So that was great.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
But like what I hear people saying, this is the
greatest story in sports history. Okay, let's start with the
Miracle on Ice in nineteen eighty, which this is nowhere
close to, not even remotely.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I'm not ready to even say it was the best
National championship game ever. As far as the.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Sport, I'm talking about the story of Indiana coming out
of nowhere sixteen to zero Signetti.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
It's a great story.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It's awesome story, but yeah, not miracle on ice.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And to your point when you said people might not
be talking about as much how close Indiana was to
losing Carson Beck, dude, you drive that ball towards the
end zone, put a little bit more air on it,
let that receiver get under it. That's a touchdown. Like
most quarterbacks, Mason Hinchel's in that past Mark, I tell
you that right now.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
No, he wouldn't, but that that picked in the game. Basically,
if that's a better ball, it's a touchdown, without question.
It was like the guy was open, he's behind the guy.
You go to the end zone there, you lead him
into the en zone with a little bit more pep
on it. He just kind of threw a lollipop. It
was an awful pass.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I'm happy for.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Even though he's like kind of the the big fat
drunk guy on on barstool is Mike Kdick, Who's my
buddy's kid I grew up with. I grew up with
with with Mike Senior, and and Mike's a good kid,
and he had a great career in Indiana. I think
his knees prohibited from going pro uh and I thought
he could have played. I if I were him, I
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would have got a couple of years out of it.
Maybe some workman's comp whatever the NFL version is in that.
But I'm glad that he's so happy they won. And
then a lot of people, including somebody on Indiana shouted
him out on TV, saying that Mike changed the culture there,
which I'm sure he did.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Mike just a team first type of kid.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
No, he's a huge part of it. Like I think
I heard his story, like he was to go to
the pros.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
He was thinking about doing that, and then he talked
to Signetti when he got there, because he was there
for Signette's first year last year, got him some nice
nil money, convinced him to come back be center for
that team. And as you heard on the podium from
all those players, like he was a huge bridge glue
guy for all the JMU guys that came in because
he was an Indiana guy there, so he bridged that
gap between the two.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Locker room Junior was a culture changer. His dad's a
real good guy. So I was glad to see him.
I'm sorry he didn't, you know, stick Around wasn't able
to another year.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
But I saw Sloetti on the buses after saw him
and like, daft hi up and there's a clip of
sing you can hear him being like you were a big.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Part of this, and they could have used them too,
without question would have started.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Oh well, not only that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
I mean, if there's one, I don't want to say weakness,
but their O line won't great last n oh, Like
in Miami, it's unbelieved the pressure they put up. That's
what made the game that Mendoza played so good. He
was under siege the whole game.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Oh in the bloody lipt early in the act, like
three times in the road to open the second half.
It was crazy, and I do like that there was
a little bit of blood there. I hope he bladed
actually because that gets you over big time, right juice.
It was awesome though, just it was it was really
fun game. It does suck that everybody rushes to say
greatest of all time, better than the Miracle on the
ice though.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well they didn't say that. I mean that comparison has
not been made. But like it's not the greatest sports
story ever. By the way, if I play in the NHL,
would be gay because you know hidden rivalry of right,
he did rivalry, Well, there's a Freudian slip. But if
I played in NHL, I would keep a fingernail sharp
and every time I got high stick the juice.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, to get to get the double min or the major.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I think that's great strategy. I don't know why players
don't do it. More.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Do you think Mendoza is going to be a good pro?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I think his floor is really high.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Like, I think he's gonna be pretty decent, you know
what I mean, like a worse they'll become like an
Andy Dalton type of quarterback where he's just like, is
he good?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Isn't he good?
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You get to the playoffs every night, and he's got
to take him? Right, he's number one this year. Let
me let me throw something out there.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
I would consider we're I Vegas, Okay, And by the way, Davis,
what Mark Davis, the Raiders owner kid, right, Uh he
was there last night and yeah, yeah, so I mean, oh, Brady,
I forgot Brady's in the owner. Brady's gonna make sure
they take of course good Mendoza. But but I would
(15:12):
see what's out there offered for that first pick, because
if it was overwhelming, if it was like a herschel
Walker type return, I'd consider it because even though I
think Mendoza has a chance to be, like you said,
a very high floor. I if I'm not sure he's
a nailed on super Bowl winning superstar, I might. I
(15:34):
might see what I can get into trade.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, I think it's worth exploring for him. He's not
Andrew Luck. You know, Trevor Lawrence was like that when
he was coming out where it was like, this is
the clear number one pick, like he'll change your franchise.
I don't think Mendoza is at that level of a prospect,
so I think he got to entertain it. If someone
offers you like three first.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
They won't they won't you.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I had forgotten about about Brady being part of Vegas's
ownership in football staff, love himself a winner into that
and totally violating every conflict of interest definition that's ever
ever existed by being on Fox I know, and yet
Matt Ryan he becomes team president of the Falcons, he
resigns like a gentleman from CBS.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
He plays by the rules.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Because nobody's gonna tell Tom Brady he can't do anything
except Giselle one oh five ninety.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
Penguins made a trade.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They got defenseman I solo Off, Is that right, Ilia Soliyoff,
defenseman from Colorado, Belarussian, in exchange for the winger Pustin
and who played here a bunch of times and really
was small and useless.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
And they threw in a seven tron pick. I don't
know anything about this.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Soul of you off, but but hey, what the heck
can't hurt because all they give up was Pustin in
h I'm going to the North Hills game tonight. I
think Tom north Hill's hosting Butler. The team's tied for
second place in the section and only a game back
of I think Newcastle is the leader. North Hill's gotta
beat by Newcastle. Last week former Newcastle cheerleader Jen Balano,
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no dot happy about that, And Tom, I want to
talk about soup. Are you a fan of soup? So yeah,
I found myself in a discussion on Twitter last night
about soup, and I love soup, especially this time of year.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Here's a question, this chili Kana soup. That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think no. I don't think it does count a lot.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I think probably no too, but I'm still gonna eat it.
Of course, chili too, Like chili and soup are just
awesome for winter. And I love all those different different
Mexican kitchen type of soups, like chicken tortilla soup and
chilata soup. And then like some of this stuff is
almost like a stew, not soup, like like stuffed pepper soup,
(17:50):
the stuff that's really thick, loaded potato soup. I love
wedding soup. I love tomato soup. I've had grilled cheese
and tomato soup. Now another question is soup.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, I think soup is a meal. I think it does.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Depend on the soup though, if it's like a party
or to be a big bull. This is just episode.
They already did this episode when they were asking about that.
If it's hardy, I think yes, it is a meal,
bigger bowl for sure. Like you're talking like a chowder,
you're talking like something like that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
It's chapter soup. That's a tough one too, right.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
I think chowder is soup. Does that conflict me saying
chili isn't? I don't think so. I think I'm good.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
There might be a bridge.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I don't think I'm hypocritical there.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
The bridge between soup and chili. You might be chod.
And again, I've been in New England.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I've got seafood Chotter it has There's this place the
no name on the dock in Boston.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I was at years ago. I'm sure it's still there.
It's a very traditional.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Seafood restaurant and basically they take whatever seafood they have
a bunch of that day's catch and throw it in chowder.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Sounds so good.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And you can literally get lobster in there like anything
like gal Yeah. No, I've been there two or three times.
It's always excellent. Fact, I'd like to get back there
at some point before I croak. Those are some of
my favorite soups.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Mark is the seafood kind of variety of soups, the
clam chowders, the lobster bisks, the crab soups.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Those are awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Now there's this place on McKnight Road called Stokes Grill
and it's great for soup. They have like this big
sign with eight or nine different soups every day. And
soup was a big deal in the winter when I
was a kid, even out of a can, like it
felt like something special when you come in, like from
playing street hockey in the cold, and you know your
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you know, my mom or my grandma would make make
soup out of a can.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Now here's what I don't like. I don't like chilled soups.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I don't even know if I've had a children.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, not interesting.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
I don't even think I've tried it, to be honest
with you, that wouldn't appeal to me. The part of
soup that's so appealing is that warmness of it. I'm
not the biggest fan of French onion soup.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, I don't know. When's the last time I've had
French onion.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You know what, it depends how you make it, Okay,
friends onion soup with like the the huge triple layer
of cheese on top.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And the onion.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's just cheese. Okay, that's soup. That's just cheese.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I like minimal cheese and a lot of onions chopped
up in kind of a spicy broth, which the onions
would make it.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I like the onions choped up too.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
I don't like it when they're like thicker onions in there,
but I'm not I wouldn't gravitate towards fresh onion soup
if I had other choices. It's not one of my favorites.
Now you're a sprinkle like crackers into a soup guy, right.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
It depends.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It depends on not like like what I Well, the
best soup for a waking one eighty is their tomato soup.
And I don't know if you're supposed to make it
this way, but to me, the most even way is
I run water through my cure eg without a cup,
and the hot water it's the perfect temperature when it
hits the soup mixed. Yeah, and their Italian tomato is
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very good. But they make these like vegetable chips. I
do crumble up the vegetable chips. That sounds good to
put in air. It is good that's their best soup
forty seven pounds later. Do Awaken one eighty. They'll pay
me more if you do, but I normally don't. To me,
I'll take like a couple of spoons the soup, and
if it doesn't have the thickness, then I will, you know,
(21:10):
put like like crackers or whatever into it. But it's
not something I look to do. Now Here's how I
define soup as a meal. I like soup with either
a small salad, a half sandwich, or fries like some
small side dish, and I will dip the fries in
the soup depending on the soup.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like fries and tomato soup, that's a winner.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean I'm open for that, but I still
think like a nice big bowl of like a chop
with potatoes in there, Yes, without any of the sides.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I can get away with that, like that can be
my lunch.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But if you get like a cup of tomato soup
with fries, cup of tomato soup with half a sandwich,
cup of tomato soup with a salad.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
It's also one of my favorite moves that really any
restaurant I go to is to just take a look
at that soup. Menu before I get my main meal
and just say, like, do we have anything nice on
the soup menu today? Then I might want to have
a little cup of just for a little taste. I
love soup so much. Do you do bread bowls?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Are you fan of that?
Speaker 1 (22:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's too much, it's too much. It overwhelms, that's fair.
And you know what else?
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I don't like when I get like a like a
taco salad if they have the tortilla bowl, I don't
like that either too much.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's too much.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah, but yeah, boy, I wish I was like eleven again,
Tom with my dog and my mom and grandma and
an aunt and soup and soup, super big souper.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I think more so back then, sup a big part
of the households than it is now. I'll tell you what,
I would much rather talk about soup than the freaking
Steelers coaching search. You know, as you just said, do
you know why I can leave here and go have soup?
Maybe it's still grow Whereas with the Steelers coaching search,
I don't feel like it's going to be decided. I mean,
(22:44):
I think it will go till after the Super Bowl. Well,
it depends if the Rams I think that the Rams
go out in the Conference Championship, I think they'll decide,
not necessarily to pick one of those guys, but I
think they'll talk to them and decide within a couple
of days.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
They can talk to them if they win. If they
win and go to the super Bowl, you're open. It's
open season because they have that bye week. So as yeah,
I'm positive permit yep, they're allowed to do that, but
they don't permit like now right, No, you can't do
it now. They got to get to the Conference championship
game first. Would you got to wait for that?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
How would you feel if you're the Rams, those guys
taking away from prep time to do the interview?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I guess you can't say it's a minimal.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
It's the bye week before the super Bowl, and it's
gonna be scheduled, you know, that Monday or Tuesday, right
after the Conference champion.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And it's still like college where if you hired Schule,
you would make him leave right now to start.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Preparing exactly he's still coaching the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
They wouldn't name Shula while he's still coaching in the
Super Bowl, would do that.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
I think it's I think that's on a faric game.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
It's going to be Shoel in it.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I hope it kind of is. I kind of think
that would be smart.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Here's why I hope it's Schuler. I like that McVeigh tree.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Well, if it's not Schule or shiel House, it'll be
a bad pick. I'm telling you it'll be a bad pick.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Tomorrow nights, the Pens go head to head against the Flames.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
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Speaker 1 (24:24):
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the others charged forty. Tom, what have we got for
today's trifectam?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
For today's trifectam?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Mark, Since we're in the midst of a coaching search
right now for the Steelers, I picked three coaching hires
in movies that I think you could say are objectively
bad coaching hires. This is going to take some explaining
for these because they're movies, right, So a lot of
these coaches are getting over number three. I'll put Jimmy
Dugan on there in a league of their own, because
he did work out and did help the team in
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the end. But you have to say, at the time,
what a terrible move that was. He was a fallover
or drunk. He was a sexist. I mean, he was terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Higher, let me ask you, Jimmy, you're still a fall
down drunk. Well, that certainly is blunt.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Mister Harvey number two, and you're gonna have to go
with the other one. I'm gonna go with Jackie Moon
and his decision to hire himself to be the head coach.
Just a terrible head coach.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
But come on, guys, he plays power forward for his
own team, but.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He follows it up with a great head coaching higher
with monics.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Although actually, now that I'm thinking about it, he was
kind of mutinied into making that higher.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, no, no, Jackie was still the head coach monics
was offensive defens how.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Can I forget That's blasphemous that I would forget that
OC and DC monics. Number one though, is Lou Brown
from Major League, Because from Rachel Phelps's perspective, it was
the absolute worst hire she could have ever made. Right,
she was hiring guy to look to fail and he
was the best manager to win.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's one of the logic holes. Well, every movie has
a lot of holes in logic. But the GM Charlie
Dunovan didn't know who lu Bron was. Of course he
would know who he was if he managed in the
minor league to the Toledo Mudhens right right right.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Down the road.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
I assumed they were the farm team and the Indians
in the storyline. But one of my favorite lines that
movie is, Lou, how would you like to manage the
Cleveland Indians?
Speaker 2 (26:11):
I don't know, Charlie.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
I've got a guy in the other line about some
white walls. I'm gonna have to get back to you.
Just tremendous stuff. That's a good trifecta. Brought to us
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Bethel Park. Tom I gotten a bit of a skirmish,
a short one with a guy on Twitter. He's like
a podcast, a blogger, some like X minor league hockey
(26:36):
guy who thinks he's an expert. And he said that
you know, Taves came back to Chicago last night playing
for Winnipeg, right, And by the way, Tave stinks now awful.
And he said every kid grew every kid playing hockey
grew up wanting to be like Jonathan Paves, like every center.
And I go, what you never heard of, Sydney Crossby?
(26:56):
And I said, Taves is the most overrated player that
I remembered Hawk history. And the guy of course, and
a lot of people on Twitter forgot that when you
say overrated, it doesn't mean the guy blows or was insignificant.
It means he's just not as good as people say
like Taves should have never been. Remember that centennial the
NHL's top one hundred players. Taves made it and Malkin didn't.
(27:18):
That's absurd talking so much better than Taves in his prime,
and and certainly now look who had the staying power.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I used to you know, high school into college, Tom,
you know, that's that stretch when the black Hawks we running,
then into the Penguins winning. Used to hate Jonathan Taves
just because of the comparisons that would always be made
to Sand and how people would try to put them
on that same pedestal.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Sarah Spain, Who's just a dipstick. He's a leader, He's
the greatest. I mean, come on, Sid's a better leader.
Sid's a bigger winner, yes, and better everything. And Taves
did win three Cups and he was the captain. But
but but the podcaster said, you know, talking about Taves
as gold medals. Okay, Like, okay, Sid was on those
teams too. There's been a lot more.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
He's got the golden goal. Maybe you've heard of it.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Also, Mark Taves great player, don't get me wrong, and
it is prime a huge contributor to the Blackhawks dynasty.
Then that run Kine was the best player on the
team though, like it was Patty Kane's Blackhawks. No one
thinks that Jonathan Taves was the one driving.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
And you can argue that Duncan Keith made impact. Yeah
yeah on defense.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Tom of the coaching dismissals and we're including Tom Win
in that even though he did quit, and he did quit.
But the of the of the guys who left their jobs,
which one should feel the most hard done by, which
in your mind was a bad firing.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
That's a really great question.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
It might honestly be Stefanski because his ownership just completely
hijacked pretty much every decision making. He couldn't Watson contract doom, Yeah,
and I don't know if he was, and then drafting
I mean not after drafting Gabriel right right at the
owner's behest.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yes, that didn't help Stefanski either.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Because you know, the owner just saw Shador keep slipping
and slipping and he was like, get it on the
phone right now and get me Stefanski into that war room.
We gotta take Shador. It's falling into our laps right now.
So he was just dealing with a medaling owner a lot,
and through that he was still able to make the
playoffs a couple times with the Browns, beat the Steelers
in the playoff game.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Got coach here twice.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Yeah, like you said, beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh in
a playoff game, which he's such a superior coach, he
didn't even have to show up for that. Remember he
had coached Couch, right, right, right. I think he might
be right, But I would say it's McDermott because of that.
As I mentioned earlier, McDermott deserves some credit for developing
Allen and Buffalo because Alan came from Wyoming hardly a
(29:29):
football power, was very raw, no guarantees when you brought
him in. And obviously you know a lot of people
went into developing Josh Allen there, but probably nobody more
than McDermott. And under McDermott, Allen became the best quarterback
in football. I'llbeit a guy who can't win big games.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
The only thing I would say against McDermott, though, is
the defense for the Bills just hasn't been able to
really catch up to that offensive side of the ball.
They haven't been able to feel a defense recently that's
good enough to get to a super Bowl with Josh Allen,
and that's his that's what he's supposed to bring to
the table, So I would say that's a point against him.
But I think Bean it should have been a total
clean house if you're gonna do anything from Bakula. The
(30:08):
fact that Beans still gets to stay around The number
one problem is that roster can struct.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I said, beans has Pagola his ear. That's how you
survive with Pogol. You have his ear, you get to
meet with him. Ever, it's like, I'll give it an example.
I hope, I hope wrestling fans are listening. It's like
AE W with Tony Kahan.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Who's who we like?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Tony was in the studio. But if you're Tony's buddy,
you get a lot of TV time. If you have
his ear, you're a star.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's the way to get on. Just talk him up.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's not the way to wanting.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Uh taul one one last thing before before we end
the first hour. If you could pick one guy for
the Steelers not to hire, who would be Who's who
would be the worst hire they could make? And I
want the fans to call in at the fans I
saw like mister Friday afternoon. I want callers at a three, three,
four one two w XDX. Who's the guy you wouldn't hire?
(30:56):
That'll be for calls on the fifties. But who's the
guy you wouldn't hire?
Speaker 4 (31:00):
It's two guys in my mind right now, it's the
Weaver guy in Miami or it's Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy
gives me pause because he's an offensive mine, but I'll
final answer Mike McCarthy don't why.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Why don't you want him to hire?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I just don't feel like he has any juice. Really,
I feel like there's a lot of other guys that
have more juice.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I don't disagree. You know who I wouldn't hire. I
don't think of Miami's defense too. I think Forest. Why
are people ignoring that Forest was an absolute disaster as
a head.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Coach in Miami.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
McDaniel far greater success in Miami as a head coach,
and the Steelers don't want to talk to him at all.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I gotta be honest, I'm I'm outraged they never talked
to Stefanski. I'm getting to that point with Mike McDaniel
based on how many teams are talking to him, although
time will tell if somebody hires him. But if he
goes to Baltimore, the Steelers are gonna get trampled by
Lamar under McDaniel, mark my words.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Think would be great high for them.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Like I said, I think Buffalo and Baltimore should both
be trying to get into bed with him, he'd be
perfect for them.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Well, I think Steeler fans need to be patient Tom,
because a new day will dawn for those who's wait.
I've done that a couple of times in the last week.
One oh five nine the X.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Now here's your chance to win one that
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