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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And now we got the Mike McCarthy thing. Steeler's gonna
interview him. I wrote a column about that for the trib.
It wouldn't shock me if they want McCarthy, because McCarthy
could maybe get Rogers to come back. Those guys work
together in Green Bay, won a Super Bowl together in
green Bay, beat the Steelers with Green Bay, and while
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they buttoned head sometimes, they generally had a decent working relationship.
So that is all the news that fits regarding these
Steelers coaching search.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's not bring on Tommy Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Tom you heard me talk about the Rogers and McCarthy dynamic.
Could Art Rooney the second possibly be thinking that way?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I certainly hope not, because I don't even think if
you do hire McCarthy, it's not a guarantee that Rogers
follows him for another year in Pittsburgh. As you said,
they did butt heads at the end of their tenure
in Green Bay. It's not exactly like they ended on
the best of terms. And who knows if McCarthy wants
to just run right back into bed with Rogers. But
it does creak that door open a little bit, and
I think it's a little odd that schefter had that
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kind of report that wasn't a report because he couched
it throughout the story saying like, well, it might.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Happen, but he's a gossip monger. That's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He has to fill too much space and time. He's
not a reporter anymore. He's a gossip mongerant and that's
kind of sad. Now we know McCarthy's from Greenfield ex
of Green Bay in Dallas, and I think he's a
pretty good coach, but he's also sixty two years old.
If you hire him, it's a big turnaround from doing
the perceived organizational reset that.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
We thought was due. Now, Alan Saunders brought up a
good point on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
He said that maybe they're talking to McCarthy to get
an older coach's perspective and they can take what he
thinks of the team and kind of bonds that off
what some of the younger guys say and come to
a more educated decision because of that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
If that's the purpose, I get it.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
And you think McCarthy, you know, if there's any team
that he'd be open to be being used like that
for because you're kind of using him in a little
bit of away there. You're you are getting his name
out there though in the cycle and saying like, oh,
we are interested in McCarthy.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
But I think Steelers. I don't think the Steelers are
gonna hire McCarthy. I don't think so either.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
I think they're going to be tempted a little bit.
I think they do want Rogers back. Because here's the thing.
Rooney mistakenly thinks they're close to winning now if they
have an Aaron Rodgers. He thinks they were closer this
past season than they were. But let me ask you.
You saw the Houston game, even though it was seven
to sixth after three quarters, Tom, did they ever look
close to winning?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, they didn't. I didn't think that. I had zero
faith that they were going to get into the end
zone by halftime of that football game. The Texans defense
was just so overwhelmed.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But Art is Art is desperate doing a playoff game,
and look desperate.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Look at the freaks that are playing right now, Mark,
like the quarterbacks that were playing in the divisional round
last week. They are a different level than what the right.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
And in the in the conference championship games, you got
a first pick overall, a third pick overall, another third pick, overall,
and then the twelve pick overall, bow Nicks got hurt.
So I keep seeing like Cabali on Twitter saying, well
if you if, if you bought him out and draft high,
there's no guarantees. Well, it's sure the way to bet, though,
And look what the Patriots did. By the way, the Patriots,
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I'll talk about this later, they're an embarrassment to the Steelers,
how quickly they rebuilt while the Steelers kept treading sludge.
But the Patriots drafted Mac Jones to be the guy.
He warn't the guy, so they drafted Drake May a
little bit later.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I mean, they.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Finished well a couple times, eventually got it right and
in very short order. It took six years since Brady
left and Belichick left during the same interim, and now
they're back in the conference championship game and look to
be a power for years to come. Moving forward with
the franchise quarterback, the Patriots are an embarrassment to the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
As you often point out, Kenny Pickett and picking him
set this franchise back. You said it then five years
and maybe even longer as we're seeing it.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's even different than drafting Mac Jones because mac Jones.
Some people thought he was pretty good. Yeah, nobody thought
Kenny Pickett was the guy. Nobody but Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
But where I'm going with that is the Patriots at
least wrecked ignized once you got mac Jones that he
ain't it. They got out from him, they sucked. Then
they went back at it in the draft again and
took a swing at Drake May. Yes, as people point out, oh,
it's not a guarantee that if you pick somebody in
the top ten he's going to hit as a quarterback,
but your percentages just go way way up, so you
want to just keep taking swings. In the first round,
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the Steelers ejected from Kenny Pickett at the appropriate time,
but then they just kept making missteps After that point.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
They fool themselves. They conned themselves into thinking they can
win with the group they have. DJ wants a loser.
He's a loser. Tom Kim Hayward's won one playoff playoff game.
What would make anybody think this group of guys can win,
especially on that high priced, overrated defense that disappears every
time come crunch time.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
That's aging. That is just aging and showing signs of that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
They never got much done before.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They were just saying though, So then to just decide
that they're going to all of a sudden wake up
in a young man's game and be great at thirty
years old and become winners all of a sudden ton
of playoff games, go to AFC championship games.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Foolish uh and flores too. It was a report that
Floresa was getting a second interview. Now it's like just
gonna get in person interview. I think it'll be his
first interview, but I don't see him. I mean, if
you want to recycle a head coach, at least McCarthy
done something.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Flor has made a mess in Miami. Let me ask
you this, would you rather.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Again the African American thing? And I'm sorry that's a factor.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Would you rather them hire a defensive coordinator like a Shula,
somebody who hasn't had a head coaching gig before, or
go offensive guy?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But it's McCarthy, Uh, Shula, yeah, you go defense? There
and said, that's.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Not because I buy into the Steelers template of getting
the up and coming young assistant, but because because Stefanski's
forty two and he would have been recycled I'd have
had no problem with that, but McCarthy at sixty two,
it's not a reset. He would only be around for
like two or three years. That said, if it's two
or three years leading to something better after that, as
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with New England when they fired the Mayo guy and
brought into guy who, by the way, his welcome is
gonna wear out because it always does with a meathead
guy who yells a lot.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But right now he the man.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, no question about it. I agree with you too.
I would go with the younger defensive guy. I think
that's definitely the more appropriate paths than to go. But
Chilhas is really attractive to me. I mean he's thirty
five years old. That's kind of right in that zone
where the other coaches don't think it's gonna be him.
I don't think it is because you think it's gonna
be right now. Still leaning towards Shulo, me too, Me too,
And I want to have a major problem with that
defense played well last.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He seems like a good choice from Afar. He does.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
They got a wait a week though, now you think
they'll have that patience to go through another week without
interviewing Shula and person should they have to. They should
without even getting that they.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hire someone this week without interviewing Chris Shula. That is
managerial malpractice, which means that's probably exactly what will happen
one oh five to ninety X as we celebrate the
life and times of a great American and perhaps America's
greatest civil rights activist by way of honoring doctor King.
At three o'clock, I'll be doing my annual I have
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a dream speech, and I do have a dream. Am
I not be your dream? I'd like to think Doctor
King would laugh at a parody of his speech. And
I think I accidentally do it twice year because I
think I do it on his birthday too.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I'm not sure who can keep track? Hey, for those
of you.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Who don't want to see the Steelers rebuild, that you
couldn't take them having a losing season. Okay, you got
New England in the AFC Championship Game two years ago,
they were four and thirteen. That's just two years ago.
They're playing Denver three years ago. Denver was five and twelve.
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LA Rams in the NFC Championship Game three years ago,
they were five and twelve. Chicago just got beat but
made the playoffs, they got the future laid out with
Caleb Williams. Boy what to throw that was to tie
the game? Chicago was three and fourteen.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Houston c J.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Stron's the worst ever and how could the Steelers not
beat him?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Seriously?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
But they made it again three years in a row
to the divisional round in three years ago, Houston was
three thirteen and one. It can't be done quickly if
you move decisively and know there's no guarantees. But like
I said a moment ago with Tom, when the Patriots
drafted Mac Jones and he won the guy, they went
out got Drake May and he is the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Steelers drafted Picket. Then they started to recycle, recycler.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Old, older, oldest, and like I said, the Steelers are
absolutely a disgrace compared to the Patriots. Should feel embarrassed
by the Patriots. Patriots lost Brady in twenty twenty. Belichick
left after twenty twenty four. They had five losing seasons
in between Brady and now. But they rebuilt like bang
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overnight with May, with Frabel. Now they're in the conference
championship game and they're going to keep going back. Even
as the Steelers tread sewage. The Steelers as an organization
started settling and stopped knowing what they were doing many
years ago. And if you don't believe me, look at
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who's still playing and who isn't. Not to be critical, Tom,
I do want to talk about some of the playoff games.
That game between Buffalo and Denver was amazing. What did
you make of the interception call that went in Denver's
way kind of tied in possession?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Was he done by contact? Blah blah blah, How would
you have called it? I think they got it right.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
To be honest with you, I'm really sick of seeing
people like Dan Orlovsky post these still images on Twitter
and kind of being like this is.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Always it kills you.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Still image tells you nothing in that circumstance. The only
thing that I do have a gripe with is how
rushed it was. The call, Like that's a huge call.
It's not consistent.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like the Rogers fumble at Baltimore was the same thing
that he They somehow perceived that there was an instant,
an instant a millisecond when he was in possession and down,
and that time the offense got to call. This time
the defense got the call, but I tend to give
it to whoever winds up with the ball now, calls
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or calls, and one team's always disappointed after close refereeing decision.
But Josh Allen turned it over four times. Yes, that's
what lost it for Buffalo, and Josh Allen cost Sean
McDermott's job period.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He should feel awful.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yes, absolutely, And I gotta be honest with you, I'm
really sick of the Buffalo Bills always whining after they lose.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean, mark the overtime. It's all they know.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
They know the overtime rules that we play under. Now,
remember that was from the Bills whining because.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Oh, he didn't get the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Only Mahomes got a chance to score a touchdown, and
now Allen needs a chance. And they changed the freaking
rules because of that, not because of them specifically, but.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No, no, because of them specifically. You're right, choj and
horsed it through. They could give them the first three
possessions in overtime and then still find a way to lose.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Josh Allen Cohen seven and overtime. Yeah, that was a
crazy stat that popped up when I was watching the game.
Does the bloom go off his ROAs. I think it
should start right now. It should be starting right now.
Might it really should be? He he's not getting crushed enough.
Like I see so many people after the game with
I feel so bad for Josh Allen. Why why do
you feel bad for Josh Allen? He can't get it done.
He's the best player in the NFL and he can't
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get it done. You don't extend that sympathy for a
lot of other players in the league.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Bow Knicks is out.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Jared Stidham will play quarterback for Denver in the AFC
Championship game against New England, a former Patriots backup. It's
disappointing for Denver in the sake of the game, but
I don't see any way New England loses. Then again,
for some teams, especially a team that's kind of back
new in the playoff fight like New England, sometimes when
it seems like it can't go wrong, that's when it does.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
See just this overall or overwhelming feeling like oh, the
Patriots have a buy now makes me think that Denver's
gonna put up a great fight. Their defense is really good.
Peyton's an offensive guru. He could maybe get a little
something out of Stitt.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Of Allham has to do is play one good game.
That's it, that's all, and he's and then Jared Stidham's
in the Super Bowl exactly or would the league hate that?
Would the league hate Jared Stidham as a quarterback in
the Super Bowl because the league's about quarterbacks and he's
a backup.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
And I think Drake May is really good.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I mean, the future is right, but Mark, he hasn't
played that great in the playoffs and the Patriots offense
hasn't looked that great. So go into Denver. I think
it's a guarantee Denver can force a rock fight. And then,
as you said, Stidda makes a few plays here and there.
Peyton's a good offensive guy. It's all takes.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The only thing saved Drake May, who I do think
is the real thing. Yes, but don't think that saved him.
In that game against Houston with CJ. Strott could not
have been.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Worse, No, because Anderson and Hunter completely wrecked the game.
That EDG rushing duo is remarkable. That is a duo
worthy of winning a Super Bowl being let down by
the offense.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Those two are each what we pretend TJ. Watt is
uh and what about the Patriots? Like I said, should
the Steelers be embarrassed by the Patriots? New England totally
rebuilt in about six years since Brady lost. The Steelers
ain't won a playoff game in nine years. You do
the math, and then some dink on Twitter, and this
is where it's a ton full of all you people
out there listening your dinks. I have no respect for you.
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Some guy tweets, well we beat the Patriots this year? Yeah, yeah,
and who's playing next week?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Dink?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
But it's not just the Patriots. You listed all those teams,
like the model is very clear. Another one that you
didn't put out was the Commanders, and you talk about
them all the time, complete organizational resets.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
They went so far forward last year they were bond
to take a step back this year.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You's got hurt.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Daniels got hurt all year life. They still got him,
no doubt, And I still would love to have them.
And I think the future is right there. I think
dan Quinn's a good coach right now for that organization
that they'll probably be a bounce back candidate next year.
And as you've pointed out last week, you just have
to look at the Steelers' own history one in thirteen
Terry Bradshaw six and ten Ben Roethlis.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
No question, that's all you have to look at.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I felt bad, not too bad, because I know a
lot of Chicago Bears friends, I have a lot of
fans in Chicago, so I'm listening right now to which
I could only say, uh, But I did feel bad
because that Caleb Williams row at the end to tie
the game was kind of lucky, but kind of great too,
and people remembered for a while, but because Chicago lost only.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
For a while. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
And here's the thing, though he made the interception, had
the chance to win the game, and didn't clutch up there, yep,
but the wide receiver just kind of quit on his
route there too, like it could have been that could
have been more of a contested play there, and he
kind of pulled up.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But it almost looked like he didn't know the ball
was coming.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Do you kind of feel like in this now final
four that it's a bunch of new quarterbacks, I mean,
Stidham's and nobody you got May, You've got Donald now
at this stage that Stafford, just as that veteran who
still has the superpowers, just kind of feels his way
through this whole thing.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Well, first off, I give Stafford in the Rams a
lot of credit because we shouldn't forget that Stafford won
a super Bowl with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Then they rebuilt while keeping him.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, and now he's back in the back in the
conference championship, So full credit to him. I think Seattle's
a jugger not they made such short work of San Francisco.
And you know what, Sam Darnald is the real thing.
And he is testimony to that a great quarterback could
end up in bad situations and no matter how good
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he is, the situation's too bad. But he's been in
two consecutive good situations now and he's ripped it up.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Kind of feels like I'm rooting for him. Kind of
feels like that's the super Bowl, the Seahawks and the
Rams game. Like I feel like whoever gets out of
there will beat whoever to win it all.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I do like the Seattle angle.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I mean they I think they clearly are the best
team to top to bottom this year, like all around
complimentary football.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I think they've been the of the of the teams
you could consider for best team They've been the most
consistent and they're the best on both sides.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Of the ball.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Denver is not bad too, except now you lose Bonnicks,
so that just ruins everything.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
What what if Denver beats New England and it's Jared's
Didham against Matt Stafford or well, actually snod the most,
the most, the most insane would be Matt Stafford, a
Hall of Famer in a Super Bowl champion against Jared Stidham.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
It'd be like Foles versus Brady. It would have kind
of that feel to it, although Foles was much better
than Stidham, and.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Then Folks came up huge, just huge. What do you
think about the game tonight?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Tom?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Do you have any feel for the National Championship contest
between Indiana and Miami.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It feels like Indiana is just so much better than
everybody else and that they could just roll Miami and
kind of be like Alabama used to be when Saban
had them rolling in his prime. But Miami's got a
great defensive line and their offensive line is big too.
I mean, I think they can handle Indiana. Indiana is
just a bunch of twenty three and twenty four year
old men in this current climate of college football going
up against eighteen to nineteen year olds and they're just
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bullyballing them around.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
I think college football has made any number of mistakes
in its reorganization, but one is it goes on too long.
There's no buzz for this game because it comes on
the heels of those NFL games, and it's on Monday night,
which is not a college football at night. You should
play these games on Saturday. And if you conflict with
the NFL, just live with it, or better yet, do
what you used to do. Cut your season shorter. The
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college football playoff should be over before the NFL playoffs start,
and if that gets less teams in, it cuts it
down to eight. Get rid of those ridiculous conference championship games.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Have to they are? Theyre so meaningless. They won't because
it's more money.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
You're spot on on what's just killing so much of
this buzz. I mean, don't you think Mark, that they
should be trying to get And this would qualify for
what you said, wrapping up your season before the NFL
playoffs start. They should be trying to get that national
championship as close to New Year's Day as they possibly
can even play the national championship on New Year's Day.
New Years Day has always been a college football holiday,
the Rose Bowl. Just make that the staple. We're almost
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in February now to wrap this season up. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I And like I said, I'm just if I
might good to Archie's. Just go to Archie's on the
Saua side and I'll watch.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
There's nothing else on. Well, they wrap up at eight though.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah. And by the way, we're off at four, which
is great.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I mean, I mean, yeah, it is great because the
Penguins pregame starts at four. But yeah, Penguins in Seattle.
Here all the action right here on one oh five
nine the X. By the way, Uh, we got some
local goalie news Tom. First off, John Gibson, who we
haven't had on it a bit. Uh. He's with his
with Detroit, first year with the Raid Wings year, he's
on a fourteen and two heater and I knew once
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he got to a better team and a better hockey
town that he would bloss him even further. I mean,
John's had a great career, but I'm glad to see
him do well. And I hope I get this name right.
We're trying to get him on the show. Bianca Biraterteri
from Wexford. The US under eighteen women's team won the
gold medal at the Under eighteen World Championships and she
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got a thirty eight safe shutout in the final. So
it's goalie day here on the Mark Man Show, and
we're gonna have Bianca on at some point in near
future because honestly, I am sick to effing death of
Steelers football. No matter what coach they get, they won't
be very good next year. They don't have a quarterback.
And we fret too much over a team that keeps
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filing its own nest defecating in its own pants, which
I'm assuming Gibson and Bianca did not do, because well
you could. I mean, actually a goldie I'm not gonna
say his name to, but a goalie I coached in
ball hockey when he played ice hockey, he did. He
was he was incontinent in his hockey pants during an
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ice hockey game and you could see it like dripping.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Oh my god, coming out onto the ice. No, no,
like during the game in the crease. Oh god.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I probably should have sent that to the album. It
was see if I say how good he was. People
might figure out who he is, but but the guys
who know no anyway, But yeah, he was a great
freaking ball hockey goalie for sure. Any hoodles, we got
Jonathan Bumbulli for the Hockey Night Show at three point thirty.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Like I said early on until four, don't forget.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
At the top of this hour, I have a dream,
and I do have a dream that we don't talk
about the Steelers as much. One oh five ninety x
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twice a year. I have a dream speech at the
top of the hour, Tom, I just saw an ad
on TV and now something on Twitter. Applebee's has something
called the o M Cheeseburger. It's a burger with fries cheeseburger.
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I think there's bacon on a two. It's cut in
half and it's served with the with the sides down,
like the where it's cut down in a sizzling skillet
with melted queso and cheddar cheeses. So it's basically a
burger that you dip in cheese in addition to having
the cheese on it in the first place. That strikes
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me as incredibly delicious and incredibly unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yes, both of that. I'm interested in it though, So
the burger and you would dip the fries in it.
So the burger comes off of the cheesecakes. Here's the picture,
So you would dip it in Okay, yes, it seems Oh,
it kind of looks like it's sitting inside and.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It is sitting initially in the melted cheese. Correct. I
kind of like that.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
So the entire you've cut it in half then put it,
you know, the cut sides face down the.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Front of the sandwiches, the halfs of the sandwiches fast.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
But I think people get the idea.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, I'm in on this. This sounds great, and you're
dipping the fries in the cheese as well. You said
this was where Applebee's, and I love Apple Beees. I
might be doing this soon.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I love I love Applebee's, Chili's.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Any of those. Yeah, They're so good.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And the menu so diverse too, Like you can get
like even even the diet I'm on on Awaken one
eighty don forty seven pounds. Now, by the way, I
can go there and it's no problem eating something.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Do people even like do you know anybody that doesn't
like those places?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Like?
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I feel like those are just universally accepted in America?
Is like, yeah, that's a great place to go for
a day.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Is Bob Evans in that group. I don't know one
of those are closed. I don't know Elite, and I
don't even know.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Oh, I don't even know. It's a different kind of place.
But I don't even know if there's a Boston Market
left in Pitchball, Man. There used to be one near
our old station. I use Green Tree Apple. It's a
Chipotle now. I used to hit Boston Market up all
the time. Boston Market. You could Boston Market was so good.
You could go there for like a Thanksgiving dinner, get
all the stuff for it, and then pretend like you
made it at your house.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And people I.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Would like, like when when my when my mom was
ill and living in my house, I would always go
to Boston Market except one year, well this was after
she passed, but I kept doing that. Now I go
to friends, but uh, but for a couple of years,
I just got in the habit of bringing the stuff home.
And Boston Market like oversold. They like like their their
machine didn't shut down the online reservations. There were like
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three or four hundred people literally in the parking lot
at at the Green Tree location.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So you know where I went. I went to Giant Eagle.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh they're great, and but they're heat and serve stuff
and honestly it was just as good, just as good
as Boston Market.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You know why bob Evans probably doesn't qualify as the chilies, TJ.
Fridy's Applebe's the drink menu, right, Like, you can't go
to a bob Evans and just get loaded at the bar,
or can you?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Am I ill informed this crack?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
No, you can't. Does cracker barrel figure in? You can
get loaded at that bar?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Right? I think they served out like that. I don't
know though.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
There's like awesome drinks like Big Duck Boat drinks or
something like that. At Applebee's and chili Is. They're fun
to drink.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I do like Crackerbarel though, but I don't again, like
the two things limit my my my places where I
dine tom one is of course right now, the diet,
but the other is I'm an old man and I'm
in Pittsburgh. As as tradition, if I don't drive past it,
you ain't got a shot, right. I love Ala Familia,
and it's expensive, but I can afford it. It's the
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best Italian place going. But I don't go there because
I don't drive past that. I go there twice years,
like kind of a special occasion. I should go there weekly.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, But then don't you think it adds to it
that it's such a special occasion for you. It's so
good though, you couldn't ruin it. You could eat there
every day and it wouldn't be ruined.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well like and like, I'm so conceited about having made
a decent amount of money that.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I wallow in the expense. It doesn't matter to me.
I just I overtip too, oh, no doubt. I mean
Al Familia is great. You should go more.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
I overtip everywhere I do. If you wait on me.
You love me, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I do want to talk some hockey, because we got
the hockey and I showed three point thirty leading into
Penguins pregame coverage here on the X four o'clock game
today at Seattle because in my Martin Luther King's dreams, Tom,
it was afternoon hockey in Seattle. Uh. Well, the Penguins
ever want a shootout again? The numbers don't lie. They're
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one in seven in shootouts. She LOFs is one and six,
Sid is one for eight shooting, and failure and shootouts
is very likely to cost them the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Don't you think it's unbelievable too that they're one and
seven as a team and she LOFs is one and six, Like,
why is it always him? They have a rotation at goalie?
Why is he always the one in the shootouts?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I dot this is the reason.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
But you ever stop to think that the other team,
if it's close, Slate says, Okay, we can beat this
guy in a shootout.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't know about that at the beginning of the year,
but you don't. Maybe that starts to become a thing
now as they start to see that record. As far
as their question will they ever win a shoot out again?
I hope Skinner gets a shot at it. I think
that's your really only shot. But it is fair to
say the shooters are failing too, Like it's it's a
two week part here.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But it's weird too because like kids won for eight
but they won't pull him now, and they have pulled
Malkin and La Tang who were regulars. Uh boit Chinnikov's
I mean three goals in in u in nine games
since joining the team, and two goals in the shootout.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
And the goalie thing, never mind the shootouts tom At
this point, I would start Skinner more instead of this
totally even goalie rotation. I'm not saying the bench shutoffs,
but I might go two out of every three with Skinner.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, I agree Skinner.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I think he's just a little bit better, and there
is the shootout factor that can't be ignored.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think he's a little bit better. I mean, I
was in the Stanley Cup the past couple of years.
He's just a professional goaltender, so I would do the same.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
If they do pull the trigger on Marishov, though after
the Olympics, then I would go back to a true
rotation there until I don't.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Think they're going to do that.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I think that's their one little corner of the franchise
that is saved for development as opposed to I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Isn't that so foolish to you? Yes? Why would you
deviate everywhere? Rucker mcgordy's going back to the minors for.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
God, say, I think that's to play some games after
he was like, what was it conession with the concussion? Yeah,
but chilloffs. He's he's not played horribly, but he's almost
always good for a bad goal and sit on the
shootout Like, here's what I don't care about him on
the shootout. He is the best player in the history
of hockey on his backhand, and he's one of the fastest,
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most alarming players with the rate of speed he comes
at you. Yet in the shootout he comes in slow
and never uses his backhand. And now it's built because
he's a creature habit.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
But that habit is built up so much now that
the first time he does come in with speed and
goes to his backhand, I guarantee you he scores it
because the goal is gonna be like, what the hell
he didn't do his move.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I will say, these Penguins don't quit. I mean some
things are like very evident. And I think when they
run nder Sully that they got frustrated when they were behind.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't think and I thought Sully did too.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
And look what's going on in New York now with
the Rangers, by the way, and they issued a statement
like apologizing and saying we're not going to be rebuilt,
but we're kind of going to rebuild, and then they
had to Selly about rebuilding. And then he's talked about
coaching like to somewhat be developmental, which he abjectively refused
to do. Here, it's like Crowley said, he left the
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Penguins and went to the Rangers and again gets to
coach the Penguins. But the Penguins have scored three goals
with the goalie pulled in the last seven games.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
They do keep coming, yeah, no question.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
But everything about this team is honestly really good. As
far as I'm turning a head of schedule. It's the
shootout thing. If they were just you know, three and
five in shootouts, they'd be tied with the Islanders for
second place with a game in hand.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
They're nine to one in three against their division. They
have the second fewest regulation losses in the conference, and
somehow they're just on the playoff fringes, which makes no
sense except if you if you do a deep dive
like we've been talking about, it does make sense.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, if they could just fix their shootout woes, they
would have a strangleholder close to one on that second
spot in the East. He'd be kind of looking at
Carolina and saying, hey, Carolina, you slip a little bit
or we get hot, you're in striking distance. But they
screwed up already too much in the shootouts to have
a dream of catching number one.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Well, that that's strangle. That's what they said about Ted
Nugent Wango Zee Tango.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I will also say Mere switched the line, some worked,
some didn't. Kindle Braso and Manta Aret scoring. I might
sit Kindle a game, and that's no knock on a kid,
But he's gone a bunch of games without scoring. I
think sixteen. I think he's still playing okay, but I
think he could use a break. Then again, you got
the Olympic break coming up. But Malkin and Shitakoff are
a real good combination that might, I add, a victory
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for modern communism.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
If I know you, you want to turn the patron
Malkin mark. But if they come back next year and
he plays wing and Kindle can be the second line center,
I mean, are you more open to it at all?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Okay, at some point you gotta go to move on.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
It's like the Parts with Cutch MACKI wrote this giant
calm of the parts should keep catching, then give him
a job in the front office, to which I said, Okay,
who he ever beat?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Malkin's better than Coutch. But I feel you, I feel you.
Sometimes you just gotta move on.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Couch is gonna get a statue which will reflect an
era where no player deserves a statue, but they want
to do it for somebody. Penguins now got four road
games today at Seattle and then Western Canada. You gotta
get four points out of eight, Tom, what about maybe
four shootout losses?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
I would love it. I'll take it. As long as
you get the four points out of eight. I mean,
they're really in a good spot as far as third
place is concerned. As long as they don't have another
like five or six game losing streak. They should be
okay as far as being top three in the metro.
That's their path too. Don't you think the wild Cards
starting to slip away from them even though they are
in third place because he got teams like Toronto who
are on the outside, who have more points than the
Penguins and are red hot right now.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know what's truly weird And this happens so often.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Like remember back when like sid would get hurt and
Malcolm would start playing better even though Malkin had been
playing good, H'd like take it up a notch. Carlson
got hurt, but Tank's played his best two games of
the season the last two without Carlson.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
That is kind of so Carlston made the trip though,
like he might be back.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's big for the Penguins.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Well, I got to get warmed up for the Olympics.
You still a pit basketball guy.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I am.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I was at the Louisville game on that not what
they lose by. It was like one hundred and fifty nine.
I think I left early there was it like forty
two to twelve was amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I mean, what do you do there? Do you fire Capele.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I don't know what you do, but it feels tropical
in the Pete Mark, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Now.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It feels far worse than tropical. At least Jackie Moon
knew how to promote a game, right, you know? Top
three anyway, one O five nine the X from the.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
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Speaker 2 (30:34):
It's got to be cloudy, windy and cold today. I
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Speaker 1 (30:49):
This segment brought to us, well, the whole first I
brought to us by Sandro Rova, Shandrorovits and Fisherman Tom.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
What do we got for the trifectam?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
I got a trifecta of really great stats coming off
of the divisional round weekend. Well, I'd say two great
stats and then one. I kind of just had to
force in here because this is a trifecta. Number three,
the Texans and the Patriots combined for eight turnovers. That's
the most since twenty fifteen in a playoff game almost
a decade.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
They just kept giving the ball back. In four I
was a kid, there was a Steelers Houston Oilers playoffs.
I saw turnovers.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Steelers won it right in a blowout too. It was
like thirty four to six or something.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
It was a nutty game.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Yeah, okay, Well here are the two great stats. Sean McVay.
He won his tenth playoff game under the age of forty.
He's thirty nine. He doesn't turn forty until this Saturday.
No other coach has won more than five under the
age of forty. He's doubled everybody up, John Madden, Mike Tomlin,
John Gruden, they all won five before turning forty.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
He just won ten. Forgot John Madden started that long.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It should be noted though there were less playoff games
back then unless you made the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Still still very impressive. He's a genius coach. He's probably
the best coach right now going, don't you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Think, considering how he's gotten through the building and now
they're potentially back in the Super Bowl. I think that
Seattle Rams game is going to be just displights out.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
But number one Josh Allen So this was his eighth
or this was his seventh playoff appearance.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
He failed to make it to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That means he will at least have eight playoff appearances
before going to his Super Bowl. No quarterback who has
ever been in Super Bowl took longer than seven playoff
appearances to get to that Super Bowl. Winners or lose,
we are to trust the past. He will never he
will never get to the Super Bowl. Peyton Manning did
it after on his seventh in a Super Bowl starting
to doubt it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I really am.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
I think this was such a great window. Although it
should be noted that they had to play all road
playoff games. But still, but still with no Mahomes de
beat his bogee quarterback, the Chiefs being his bogee team. Yeah,
it seemed like a golden opportunity. And that other stat
it's not part of my trifecta, but you brought it up.
Now he's oz for seven in overtime, regular season and playoffs.
I mean, he's just not very clutch. Apparently the trifector
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brought was by Danny's Pets and Hogs, Pittsburgh's original oven
baked Togy since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's on Route eighty
in Bethel Park. You know, we talked earlier about the
National Championship game tonight INDI end of Miami and how
the season's gone on too long and I've said on
this show over the last couple of weeks, I believe
the NFL is gonna start playing games on Saturday on
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the regular, perhaps beginning as early as next season. I'm
talking about from October on. Do you think the NFL
sees college football? What with nil and the season being extended,
do you think that they see college football as a
competitive league in some ways.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
I think they're starting to shift that viewpoint as opposed
to it being a free minor leagues, which is what
has always been.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
So the NFL is always kind of and it still is.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
But again, x amount of guys that'd like to see
in the league, like Arch Manning are coming back to
make you know, seven million in Art's case in NIOL
money in Texas. And with the way the playoff has
been extended the obviously as evidence by the National Championship
Game being tonight, college football is encroaching on the NFL's time.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
But the part about the players going back to college
I think is the big one where they would have
a problem with because it's weakening draft classes. Like now
you're starting to see I forget the number, there's an
actual number, can't.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Predict draft class. It's harder to plan for draft, no doubt,
and like this underclassman.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I mean the ones that came out early, those were
the studs because they're coming out early and you're not
having that anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Although I just contradicted something I always say, Tom, because
I think the draft is so easy to prepare for.
I think you could get the Our Lads Draft Guide,
which is uncandidly accurate in the order of picks, and
just use that to draft your team. And I think
when arch Manning decides to not go into the draft,
whoever drafted a quarterback just crosses his name off the
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list and goes one more down.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
There's so many websites right now, like you're saying, that
do this work for you. It would be funny if
a front office was just like all these people just
do it for free. I'm just gonna go to the
internet and rip them off. Oh that's where we should
be taking.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
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