October 31, 2025 • 37 mins
Mark and Tom talk about the Penguins being the best team in the NHL points wise through almost a month of hockey. They also talk Steelers and Halloween candy.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Mark Madden Show. Couldn't Get No Silver,
Couldn't Get No Gold. You can follow me on Twitter
at Mark Madden X. Let's talk now to Tommy Radio.
Tom Should we be talking about the Steelers? Who about
the Penguins, because my god, eight two and two, Like
I said, most points in the league.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'd much rather talk about the Penguins because they're actually exciting,
and I think it's time we have to adjust the
goals to the season. You wrote about that in the trip,
like they forced you to. Now think about making the
playoffs And dare I say, and dare you right win
a playoff game for the first.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Time or series?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well series, Yeah, for the first time since twenty twenty eighteen. Yeah,
I mean, I still would not bet on it nobody.
But in terms of making the postseason, they're building themselves
a cushion.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I looked it up, Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Teams in the playoffs as of Thanksgiving make it seventy
seven point five percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now, what about the team that is like at the
top of the entire freaking league at Thanksgiving. I'd have
to assume that's almost one hundred percent chance that you're
gonna make it. Not to say that the Penguins a
month from now are still gonna be a top of
the league.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'd like to think the Penguins goaltender could blow it.
Uh No, I mean, well, now it's too late to
get McKenna. It's literally too late to finish low enough
to get McKenna twelve games in to get enough balls
in the lottery. You know, I don't buy into the goaltending.
And it's playing fine except for shootouts. I mean, Jari
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did a good job. Was that I just I just
don't believe.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So do they get that shot of life then
in February when Marashov comes up because he is destroying
the AHL right now?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh yeah, But what would have to happen is that
that somebody gets hurt. They're not going to be in
a playoffs, but with their current goaltending and morrishoff on
a roll in the AHL and disrupt what's going on
up here or disrupt what he's doing down there. So
what I would suggest is that if they're, like, you know,
in second place in the division on February first, that
someone pushes Jari down a flight of steps.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But what if you know they've built a cushion right now,
what if you just kidding but not really.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What if you start to see get a sense that
they're fading a bit as far as a team and
as far as a goalie position is concerned, and you're
still in that playoff spot, but it is getting a
little bit tenuous, then maybe you have the opportunity to
pull that trigger without pushing Jari down said flight of stairs.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Now you know, I mean, I see what you're saying,
and in a vacuum, you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It would never happen.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But if they're in a playoff spot on February first,
they're not disrupting the goaltending that's got them there.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Kindall scored on the power plate.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Did you know that anytime a Penguins appeared on this show, Tom,
he scores a goal within a week, except the goalies
and Ryan Whitney.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is that all encompassing like a veteran's rookies or are
you saying like their debut on the show? They always
go out and score all of them.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Every single player, every time. It's something I made up
just now. The contrast between the Penguins and Steelers is
so obvious, isn't it. The Penguins have shed their cloak
of staleness. The Steelers wallow in the pits.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's such a shining example for the Steelers right in
their own backyard of what can happen when you just
change things up, when you just freshen things up. And
it's not like they change thing up from the aspect
of their roster getting much younger. I mean, they still
got a lot of old guys on that Penguins roster,
don't get me wrong, an injection of youth, but they're
still being carried by Sid and Gino right now. Steelers
have an old ass roster. They're past their prime, and
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they're not Sids and Gino's nowhere close. They don't have
any of those guys on that roster. But a new
coach and a new approach could do everybody wonders on
that team. Maybe you can get something out of TJ.
Watstone with a new defensive minded coach, with a new
approach overall by a head coach. Stale has just been
the theme for both of those teams for so long.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's so stale. I feel stille talking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And now the Penguins have freshened themselves up completely and
now it's Halloween and you have the most points in
the NHL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
See how that works. Well, The problem is with the
Steelers never changing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, there are many problems with that, but it
messes up the accountability factor. There's no accountability for con
and Tomlin, and that's damaging to them. No pressure means
a lesser performance and it's certainly discouraging for the fans.
Now we will talk more Steelers all day, whether we
(04:08):
want to or not.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But can Penn State even hang at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's a little weird that Ohio State is only an
eighteen point favorites. And I know that's a lot of points,
but don't you think it should be higher than that
With how Penn State has played. They haven't beaten a
power for team yet this season Penn State, so that
gives me a little bit of pause. I don't think
they can hang with them. The game I'm looking at
for Penn State to kind of maybe make some noise
and hang with the team is not this week, but
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the next week when Indiana comes to Happy Valley, Because
you know Indiana, you still don't know if you fully
buy Indiania. Indiana, even though they look really good, and
I don't know at Happy Valley, that could be the
game where they potentially pull an up, said, Ohio State's
gonna handle them.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I mean, does it matter what happens from here
on alten And by the way, like now with with
Signetti reupping at Indiana and with Rule reupp agat Nebraska,
to the decision to replace Franklin because even more stupid,
because there's never any good to be had by replacing
(05:07):
a coach in the middle.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Miami Dolphins, you here, they're gonna fire Mike McDaniel. They
fired the GM today, But you can't turn it around
with a new coach in a game that requires as
much preparation and as much foundation to be laid as football.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You'll wait till the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I think with Franklin getting fired now, it scared
these schools into keeping their guys.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And now who they're gonna get? Yeah, absolutely, who are
they gonna get?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Maybe Brian Kelly, That's the one I brought up yesterday,
like he got Dix made from LSU. I don't know
if he'd just want to, you know, walk away and
be done with coaching. But I don't know that that
seems to be the only fit or a caliber of
a coach that makes sense and is available to go
to Penn State, and they can kind of talk themselves
into it being an upgrade. James Franklin's the best coach
that's on the market right now.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You don' wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They can't do it, but it wouldn't shock me if
they cocked themselves into keeping Tearry Smith is the head
coach because he's a Penn State lifer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, back to what you were talking about with McDaniel
and how he's probably gon.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I like Terry and.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I like covered him when he played in high school,
which is a million years ago at Gateway, but he
ain't the guy.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He ain't it so well, they haven't won a game
under him yet. He just lost to Iowa.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And what you were saying about McDaniel and the dolphin situation,
they're gonna let him ride out this season. I completely
agree with you because I fear that what you just
described happening if you're in the midst of a coaching change,
is an interim coming in people buying into him because
you know he's been around the team already.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Being a sentient.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Actually, actually, Penn State is doing itself a favor by
continuing to lose under Terry Smith, because that makes him
a less attractive option permanently moving fast.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's what I'm saying, Like, you get so much outside
pressure if your interim coach does well and the team
and the players like playing for him, that you almost
have to make that high or else you look like
a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, the World Series go to seven games, Game six tonight,
I kind of like the Dodgers and Yamamoto tonight. Yamamoto,
if LA comes back and wins, he might be the
postseason MVP, even over a time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, especially because he literally pitches every single inning that
he goes out there. It's such a throwback. He probably
will have to do that tonight because the Dodgers' bullpen
is so weak. You don't want to have to turn
things over to them at least early in the baseball
and you want it rested for Game seven if it
comes to. Yeah, no question, I lean towards the Dodgers
in this one. The Jays have their ace on the mound, though,
but the Dodgers' lineup is so good. I don't think
(07:22):
that they'll be quiet again, you know, Tawny. I think
we'll have a decent game of the play if they
pitch to him. But I think more importantly, Freddy Freeman
will come through. Mookie Betch just stinks in the World
Series three. He needs to come up. All singles one
run scored.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
How about ikf Lefa the Old Pirate, he's like one
for the series, but he's still in the series.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know he's still a big part of the Blue Jays.
It's it's really unbelievable to see him out there. He
was batting sixth I think in Game five, but in
Game four he was batting clean up protecting Vladimir Guerrero.
It's like bizarro world.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Can you leave?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The Penguins are eight two and two. So much for
Gavin mckennab. But still, I mean, you can't help, but
like it. Like I got a text from a Penguin's
lifer who said, this is terrible. They're not going to
get a good draft pick. It's not what's right for
the team in the long run, big picture. But you
(08:16):
should write to call him that glorifies it because it's
unbelievable and he's right, And I did.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
What's happening right now. Things have stunk around here for
so long as far as professional sports are concerned. And
the Penguins, that's just a product of the natural run
of things, right Like they weren't supposed to be great forever,
and you're getting to the end of your run as
a true dynasty in hockey, so you're supposed to stink
for a little bit. But the other two teams, the
Pirates always think and the Steelers have been stuck in
that nine and eight Relais, Like, God, this feels so
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good to be at the top of the league and
something to be a badass team. Tough stretch coming up, though, Mark,
it's gonna tell a lot with these teams they're playing,
starting with Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
A little review I alluded earlier, Robert Plant was brilliant
wheeling contur to the year, his voice, his phrasing. His
set list was just one hundred percent five Zeppelin songs,
including a medley of Gallows pulling black Dog at the end,
Gonna make you sweat, Go to make you groove. I
think I see Danny dimes a coming riding many a mile.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What if I've dined the x DX, The breaking news with.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
The Steelers, Well, not breaking, it's something I just didn't
mention in the first segment.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Deshaun Elliott the safety's on.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
IR which, as I understand it means he has to
miss a minimum of four games and they can't afford
to have him miss four games.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The final score last night and Thursday Night Football, Baltimer
twenty eight, Miami six. The Ravens are three and five
and here they come. How about the odds in Vegas
Baltimore to win the division minus one fifty Pittsburgh plus
one eighty five?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Like I said them, are the odds.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To win the AFC North More a heavy favorite at
three to five and with the Steelers at four and three.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Tom Lamar is back. Will the Ravens catch the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah? I think they are going to catch the Steelers.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I think the records are gonna be on December seventh,
sixth and sixth.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I might a day that will live in infamy.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I might be wrong with that because the Ravens might
just be seven and five. They might just say screw it,
We're gonna win every game between now and then. We
won't even give one back. You know the Dolphins, you.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Know what they looked like last night and I only
saw like a quarter They looked like a team that
was tired of being bad, and the Steelers look like
a team resigned to being bad and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
A team that knows they're not this bad. Like it's
damn embarrassing that our record is what it is. We're
way better than this. The Dolphins suck, So it's hard
to like, you know, read way into twenty eight to
six and be like, oh, Ravens, they're back. They're a
juggernaut again. But Lamar is so freaking good at quarterback.
Eighteen for twenty three for four touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And the hammy seemed okay because he was moving just
like Lamar always moved.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But he doesn't even have to move this year. This year,
he's doing it with his arm. It seems like when
he's healthy, he is just throwing very efficiently, completing a
ton of passes and throwing for a lot of touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now here's a question I can't answer, Tom, Why are
the Steelers only three point dogs against Indy on Sunday?
I'm considering a sizeable investment, maybe a couple of dimes
on Danny Dimes.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Do you think that that's Vegas kind of reading a
little too much into it and trusting their usual trends
of Oh, Mike Tomlin, Steelers at home, they'll bounce back
in this one. I also think they can sucker a
lot of Steelers money into it with a line that low.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I I no, I disagree.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think I think if the Steelers were like ten
point underdogs, everybody would bet on the.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Steel hammer them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And I think that this is just their way of
eving it out, like a Steelers spread where they got
too many points. That would that would be a lopsided
betting handle because there's so many Steeler fans that bet.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Wouldn't that be Vegas being able to get one over
on them, though, because I think the proper line.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Is a nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Vegas never tries they try to get fifty anything but
middle it get at fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Fifty fifty with the big right gets a big clean up.
They don't go for that. No, no, no, because that's gambling.
They're not they don't gamble yet, they're in Business's a
good point. I'm thinking, like a gambling did you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
See the line move into like four to four and
a half by game time, but at eight.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yet it's weird to me. It really feels like, you know,
they should be a nine and a half point favorite.
That's how good I think this Colts offense is. And
they just they obliterate teams like they don't mess around.
Their defense ain't great, though, that's the saving I'll give you.
I'll give you a tease, a tease for later.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know they're they're third worst than the league in
third non defense.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, I think that's the saving grace for the Steelers.
They have to score a lot of points and this
isn't a defense that is going to be very resistant
to that. It's not like you're playing the Packers defense,
which I thought your offense was okay against. Not like
you're playing the Browns defense, which I thought this offense
was okay against.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So you should be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You should be able to move the ball and get
it in the end zone, and you have to because
your defense won't win the game.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What do you think of the concept of this game
being a quote unquote calm when special a game he
wins because he shouldn't, Like I think Kim said, excuse me,
somebody said yesterday refresh my memory.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Zeiss. Zeiss said that we thought the green Bay game
would be the Tom Win special.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, that's it, Like it just kind of falls flat
when you say it this week, because that was kind
of the talk last week was, Oh, this is what happens.
Mike Common bounces back. Everybody's writing them off. They'll win
on Sunday night football in front of the nation against
the Green Bay Packers. So I can't really get behind
that this week. I can't be like, well, I was wrong.
I was just you know, that sounds like that sounds
like a doomsday sayer, right when they get the end
of the world wrong and they're like, oh, I misread it.
It's actually next year. At this time, we just can't
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keep kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think the world will end into about four h
five Sunday at Akrocher Stadium. If the Steelers win, Let's
play the what if game? Tom.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
If the Steelers win, who's going to make the big
play on offense?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh, it's got to be Dk Metcalf. This has to
be a Rogers Metcalf special if they're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I agree, it's going to be Dk because he's the
only one on offense. Who can make a big play, Although,
as I've been saying, I give Warren credit is he
is per near, if not plumb, when it comes to
being a legit number one running back. If the Steelers win,
Who makes the big play on defense?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's gotta be like a Watt probably coming in on
a Jonathan Taylor run. Maybe a strip of the ball
in one of those Watt punches that he likes to say,
something like that, Just get the ball out somehow. Turnovers
are gonna be a must against an offense like that
because they score almost every time they touch the ball,
So you got to take the ball away.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'm gonna say Joey Porter Junior, because at least I
don't hate him. You know who typifies the Steelers Patrick Queen,
the inside backer like Trey Essex tweeted he had a
couple of good games and people thought he had turned
a corner, and then last week he sucked. Just when
we started to believe, Patrick Queen went back to being rotten.
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And again that kind of reflects the entire Steelers season.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you know what's really bugging me about Patrick Queen
is this communication problems that the Steelers are having on defense,
And now everybody's saying, well, that's just gonna be even
worse now because Elliott's out. Elliott's the guy that's back
there at that safety position, making sure everybody's in the
right spot, making sure everybody knows what they're supposed to
do on this play. And I'm like, okay, if Elliott's
good at it. Elliott's good at it, but isn't that
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like just a traditional cliche job of an inside linebacker,
of a guy that has that green dot to be
the quarterback of that defense. And Patrick Queen just cannot
do that. Minca had to do that for him when
Minca was here. Now Deshaun Elliott has to take on
that role. And again, if your safety's really good at it, fine,
but you shouldn't fall apart like you do if Queen's
still out there because Elliott's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He supposed to be the job of an inside backer
because he's right in the middle of everything.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
He should command all of it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And they looked like chickens with their head cut off
the second Elliot went out. So I got a problem
with Queen there, Like, dude, that is not you playing
the position like it's supposed to be played. You got
that green dot on the back of your helmet for
a reason.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Act like it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh, we talked yesterday about Steelers who haven't necessarily disappointed
Aaron Rodgers in the offensive line. That's who came up
yesterday Again, I'd like that Jalen warn of that list.
He's been a semblance of a number one back and
has run with more power than I I thought he could.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Jalen Warren's been really good. He's not a number one
elite back, you know, like the back you're playing this week,
the one you played last week in Josh Jacobs. But
I'm starting to come around that maybe he can get
to that tier below those guys and kind of be
like that, that next level of starting caliber running backs
in this league. He's definitely one that you should throw
in the mix. On defense, Mark, I'd throw Nick Herbig
in there. They just don't play him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But that's not his fault. Was he supposed to just
run on the field on his own? Yes, that would
be great, That would be great. Like no, Alex, you
stay on the bench, You're like trip Alex Heismith on
the way out.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Joe Green did that one time. He benched Fats Holmes
to go back on the field. No, no, to go
to sit, sit down. He was on the sideline. And
I think the defensive coordinators again, name whatdy weedenhaw for
back when right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Why would he be putting Joe Green on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
No, no, no, no, Joe Green benched Fats Holmes. He
told Fats to get off the field. Oh, I see
what you're saying. Green is playing with him, okay, And
the coordinator come up to Fast and said, what are
you doing over here? He goes that Joe told me
to sit down, and he goes, yeah, but that's not it.
And Fast because listen, he goes, you can't kick my ass,
Joe cann He goes, Joe said he'd let me know
when to go back in, and Steve Ferness was in instead,
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and uh. And after the defense came off the field,
like like, the defensive coordinator went up to Joe jack
Ham told his story and like said, Joe, we want
Fast back out there, and Joe like said something like yeah,
but Joe Green. Now, who is gonna tell Joe Green.
Though apparently none of the coaches or the other players.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
SATs was was insane.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
He fired a rifle at a police helicopter and he
came off the field because Joe Green told him to.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
He was scared of me and Joe Green. That's unbelievable.
I am every time I see him.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Don't forget tonight, Uh whippy old playoff action starts for
high school football and then the five A playoffs. North
Hills at Bethel Park, first round. So good luck to
North Hills. Come on, you Indians. If the weather holds out,
Tom I will be there, only only a nineteen minute
drive from the studio.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You can just feel it in the air. Round one
high school football playoffs. It's so good. I can almost
hear the snare drum mark winnable game. But I wish,
I wish. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I mean, Northhill's lost to Shaler, which is disappointing to
me on so many levels. But if North Hills were
to beat Shalor and that was at North Hills, they
would have a home playoff game tonight. Forget Bethel Park.
You can go in there and beat the Bethel Parks.
Come on, they're good, They're good. I think it's gonna
be Yeah. I think it's gonna be an even game.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
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Speaker 1 (18:24):
Tomorrow afternoon, the Penz face off against the Jets.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
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Speaker 3 (19:50):
They got your back, not your wallets.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh I say again, How about those Penguins at eight
two and two after winning last night at Minnesota four
one Penguins, Penguins top of the league. Penguins top of
the league. And wow, what a great third period, perhaps
the Penguins best period of the year. Rush say and
kindle with the goals and then Manta putting through the
empty net. Sid had no points and Gino only had won.
(20:16):
And that's good. You gotta win games when them guys
don't dominate. And now it's a Winnipeg tomorrow at three pm.
The Jets are eight and three. Maybe it's a preview
of the Stanley Cup Final. No, really, it's probably the Penguins'
first big test, really big test.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I mean at Florida. They won, but Florida just so
beat up.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I can't take them well, I mean I take them
seriously because so many of those guys won two straight
Stanley Cups. But without bar Cuff and Kachuck, that's a
winnable game at Florida for the Penguins, and they proved
that by winning tom eight.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Two and two is a bit hard to fathom. One
hundred percent unexpected.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, unexpected, And you're just getting to the point now
where you kind of have to start to expect to
make the playoffs. Not expected, but that that should be
what the goal is for the season, because I mean,
the math is just starting to add up for you
that it would be really hard to blow this either.
Getting to that Thanksgiving point, like you said, they'll probably
be in a playoff spot by then, and their odds
just go way up. So you have to adjust your
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outlook now.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like I said earlier, it's so evident that the Penguins
are prospering by change, while the Steelers have remained stale.
But it is a Steeler Friday as we await a
Sunday's public execution at at for sure, come watch the
execution with me at the Schoolhouse, Tavern and Clarage at
one pm. A lot of stuff to give away, and
I will help you drown your sorrows if indeed they
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do get killed as I expect, or maybe they'll win.
Maybe it will be a Tom Win special. I might
put two dimes on Danny dimes. Not sure, but the
Steelers getting just three, it just doesn't seem enough. But again,
and we'll talk more late the Colts defense, it might
not be that great, uh, Bart Scott, we got signed later.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
He called the Steelers paper champions today on ESPN. He
said they can't touch back, and he's right.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, you get into a game with a team like this,
you just worry that they just don't have what it
takes to keep up. Although their offense has been playing better,
and maybe they do have the ability to hit him
with that counter.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The offense pulled the Cincinnati game out of the fire
and the defense gave it back. Yep, the offense had
them in the lead against Green Bay and the defense gave.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It back the offense.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
There is no blame whatsoever to be put on the offense,
to be put on Aaron Rodgers, to be put on
Jalen Warren, to be put on an improving offensive line.
That doesn't mean they couldn't do some stuff better, but
they have put the Steelers in a position to win
as often as not, and the defense gives it back.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And the offense saved them right out of the gates
of the embarrassment of losing to the old quarterback Justin
Fields and the New York Jets because the defense was
getting torched by that Jets offense and the offense saved him.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's one thing that we conveniently forget about that the
Steelers needed a sixty yard field goal at the death,
yes to beat the worst team in the league, and
they got out played badly by New England, and New
England just made mistake after mistake and gave the game
to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, thank god Rogers threw for four touchdowns, and thank
god Boswell's the best kicker in football, or else you
would have lost to the Jets right out of the gate.
So they saved the embarrassment there. So I as far
as you know, they can't punch back. Maybe they can
a little bit more because they can play in a
track meet, but they'll probably end up losing that track
meet because other teams just have so much more superior
weaponry on their offense than the Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Did you bind the Colt Jet? Yeah, I got seven
to one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I do buy into the Colts. I see the obvious comparison.
I'm sure you have two that they're this year's my
Minnesota Vikings from last year, right, and Danny Dimes as
Sam Darnold, Except they have Jonathan Taylor this year, and
you'd counter by saying, oh, well, they had Justin Jefferson
on the Vikings. Yeah, it's a little easier to get
the ball in Jonathan Taylor's hands than it is to
pass it to Justin Jefferson downfield. Though I buy into
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the Colts. Their offensive line is so bad ass led
by Quenton Nelson, that defense is the one side of
the ball where you're kind of like.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Let me jump in, Like I said, at ranks thirtieth
and third nine defense, twenty fourth in yardage forty one
yards better than the Steelers, it should be noted at
ranks seventh and scoring defense, which means it can stiffen.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, it bends, it doesn't break. They played a lot
of bummy quarterbacks to this point though, too.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Matt Williamson pointed out, I forget the exact number on
his stat pack, though, that the Colts will allow you
to turn a set of downs into a new one.
In other words, they'll let you stay on the field.
They'll bend, but they won't break. And the Steelers really
got to do that. They got to possess the ball
and then score touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Then, but don't break stuff. That is the siren song
of a defense. It's not that good and will eventually
blow up.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But then if you have an offense that's as elite
as the Colts offense, maybe you can survive with a
defense that's different.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right well, now, speaking of me, maybe two dimes on
Danny dimes, uh with taking the Colts giving the Steelers three?
Did you know, Tom, the Colts have covered this year
by an average of almost eleven points so far. If
that figure would hold for the season, it would be
the highest figure ever. And yet the Colts are only
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favored by three on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I don't think you should shy away from that.
I think that that gives you pause seeing that little number.
Why are they only favored by three? I'd take it.
I think the Colts are gonna win by at least ten,
So go with the Colts. I mean, they could win
thirty one to twenty seven and you're still covering that
spread if you get it in right now. So I
think that that's not a lock, but it's pretty close
to being one. What do you think about the total
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fifty and a half the over under? I think that
flies over. It depends how tom Win approaches the game. Like,
the Colts could win like forty or three. Yeah, right,
If tom Win plays basketball, it'll go way over.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That defense is still might get killed, But.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
If they play basketball, the score will go way over.
If they just try to match the Colts score for score.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Will at least get to I think twenty.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, you know what, you know what the Steelers' biggest
hope is that Rogers sees it. The only way to
win this game is the kind of play basketball, and
that he prods Tom and in that direction.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
God, I hope on the very first drive, Mark, we
get a fourth and three on the Colts, like thirty
four yard line and they kick a field.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I hope we get that scenario, just to see right here,
right away. Are you gonna shift your philosophy? Are you
going to lean more towards your offense? Are you gonna
play the same old kickfield goals and win with defense?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Football?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
A grazylown on ESPN, he called the Colts a red
zone special. He's one of the doubters right now. He said,
you see their highlights on red zone, nobody ever watches
them for sixty minutes, and their defense might not be great.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's right about the last part, but I don't know
what he's referring to as far as the first couple
of parts are concerned.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
They have the best running back in football.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Maybe people don't know enough about them, because if you
see that goes for a lot of teams that, like
the Indianapolis Colts aren't a big brand name, no, And
if you just see their highlights, you might these highlights,
you might overrate them. And again, oh, rated doesn't translate
to them not being very good. It just means their
highlights are just Wilza.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But now that you're kind of looking at it in
more of a closer lens, especially us this week as
we're getting ready for them to play the Steelers, Like,
the offense has no weakness.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Danny Dimes is.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The weakness that people are waiting to kind of avail itself,
but it hasn't yet. He's been great. He's been one
of the best quarterbacks in football. He's an MVP candidate.
They have great receivers, they have the best tight end
in football maybe, and he's a rookie. They have the
best running back in football. And their offensive line is badass.
Like I disagree with Graziano on that. I think the
Colts offense is for real and it's an offensive league,
So you hate Grazion I do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay, Tom, this next segment and I'm making sure we
get out of this once we have time to talk,
is going to be about favorite Halloween tract.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yes, with today being Halloween.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I remember I said I was debating whether or not
to leave candyat in a bowl on the stoop because
I'm not gonna be around tonight. Well, if your tricker
treating in my neighborhood, kids, I'm afraid I've got some
bad news, but I do have good news too. MTV
canceled Ridiculousness after fourteen seasons. That is a step in
the right direction for eliminating buffoonery on the airwaves, although
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Speaker 3 (28:27):
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Speaker 3 (28:55):
Tom It's Halloween. Will you be a costume tonight?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I will not be in costume tonight, Mark, What about
what about you know, trick or treating?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, the kid's going to be in costume? What was
cost it is going to be is Daniel Tiger. Hell,
Dan Tigre's a cartoon. You wouldn't get it. You shouldn't
be watching Daniel Tiger. It'd be really weird if you,
as a sixty plus year old man, was sitting down
and watching that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, thank you for pointing out my age. What have
we got for the trifecta?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, for today's trifecta, since it is Halloween, we have
to embrace cliche and go with Halloween candy. So here's
my top three. And this is incredibly hard to narrow down.
I love a lot of.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It is top three in descending order.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yes, in descending order for me personally. Again, so I
know people out there, don't sharpen your pitchforks because I
leave something out.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It's a tough call. It is number three for me.
It's going to be the Twix spar I Love. As
in ascending order. You just said it would be in
descending order.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Now it's I want my number one to be last. Okay,
whatever that means. That heightens the suspense. Yes, always well
received segment. So number three is the twig spar I Love.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
A good TwixT spar that cookie kind of middle and
the chocolate and the caramel.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's just so damn good.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I am a fan of TWT TwixT and the nugget
Number two for me are Eminem's.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I could eat a bucket load of Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's the candy where I probably overeat it too much,
Like I'll just be like, I went way too hard
on those.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Here's my complaint.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, Eminem's in the Halloween sized packets, it ain't enough
like a twix Halloween sized candy bar.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
That seems like more than an Eminem.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
The size you get like what five m and ms mms, yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Although it is fun.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
If you have like five of them, you can just
like rip them open then throw them now like you're
almost taking eminem shooters.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I would be more likely, oh good comparison, I would
be more likely to rip them open and por them
all in the bowl so.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I have a big bullet Eminex keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Do you like the variations of eminems like the peanut
butter filled the peanut.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I object in principle to the variations of Eminem's, but
I eat here's the ones I like. I like, of course,
playing a peanut both, right, I like the caramel, and
didn't they do it like a fudge cookie one too?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I might have had some really unique crust of her.
The peanut butter one are really good, but they're really rich.
You can't eat too much.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, but they're but you know you get reeses for that.
And that's my number one mark.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I know that's super cliche as well, that's really mainstream,
but I embrace that and it's a reason why it's
so mainstream because it is so damn good.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well, okay, my number one.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And by the way, the trifector brought was by Danny's
Pizza and hogis Pittsburgh's original oven bake togy since nineteen sixty.
That's Danny's Root eighty eight in Bethel Park. I would
take a Danny's Hogy my trick or treat bag. Yeah,
little messy.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well, here's a big key not to get ahead of
this before you reveal yours, Like, you need to have
some variety in the trick or treat bag. It can't
just be all chocolates. I need to see some fruit
snacks in there. Some bummies, yes, yes, like fruit snack gummies,
like fruit.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Back in my day, they would throw an apple in there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Forget that. That's the worst. No, I'm talking like fruit
by the foot. I'm talking like fruit gushers. I'm talking
that kind of stuff. Skittles.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, here, well, here's here's my number one No. As
a kid, Nestle's Crunch. I love a crunch was my
number one. Nestlie's crunch. One hundred thousand dollar bars too,
but like again, segueing into being sixty four one hundred
thousand dollar bars now with the caramel or liby yank
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got a feeling or take off a crown.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a good point. You know what else is like
that Airhead's laughy taffy, those kind of camp.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I wouldn't even I wouldn't even at any age have
eaten laughy taffy. But but now, my favorite Halloween candy,
which is kind of a superfluous statement because I don't
trick or treat, but it's KitKat. Kit Cat's probably my
favorite candy right now, if you narrow me down to one,
you know why, adult thing? It's good with coffee, yeah,
I can definitely see it kick cat and coffee, Yeah,
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I could see it being good I've never done it,
but that's just a way. That was an ad campaign
for them to have KitKat with coffee at your coffee break.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And it died like a dog.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's such a you know, you break it off and
it's such a dippable kind of candy bar.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
As well.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Y arm Or Yager loved kitkit cats, which is big
thing as a teenager. None of what you just brought
up is bad by any stretch.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And if you.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Girls would give him kit cats, and I'm I'm pretty
sure I know what he gave them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
If you were to resent me, was the kit cat.
Those three candy bars, I'm eating those with glee. Those
are all so great. Yes, they're great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now now I will give credit to it's your number
one Reese's peanut butter cups. And especially you'll disagree if
this time of year they're pumpkin flavored. They're just because
they do it right. They don't overwhelm with the pumpkin.
It just has that little pumpkin smidge in there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I disagree. I do not disagree. I think the pumpkin
shaped Greasas are so damn good. I think the Christmas
shaped Greeceas are good too. I think you get more
surface area of peanut butter in those specialty ones that
I think just elevates it to a different level.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And Tom as listeners know, Reese's Peanut butter cups are
the only way I ingest peanuts.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I have never had a peanut butter sandwich ever. No,
never my mom. I used to take jelly in my
lunch box to school with grade school, back when you
took lunch of school, and one time my mom put
peanut butter and jelly in there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I refuse to eat it.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was like in fourth grade, and I recall coming
home and saying words along the lines that she betrayed me,
something something very dramatic, like if it was now, I
would have said, she turned heel.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I have a PB and Jane the fridge. Actually no
that I'm thinking, do you want to try one? Right now?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
For the the only way I consume peanut butter is
in Reese's Peanut butter cups. I I like even like
you know how sometimes at fancy parties they fill celery
sticks with peanut butter.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yes, I would rather have that jammed in my eye
than eat it. Now, moving on to other candies, some
of the lesser lights.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I'm anti Starburst, anti Nerds'm anti Skittles, I'm anti anything
homemade and wrapped in foil or wax paper or saran wrapped.
Correct could be poisoned, could be razor blades jammed in there,
but the basics are almost all good. Like we mentioned snickers, twigs, Yes,
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Milky Way, three Musketeers, and the bigger the better. Although
you ever get like a full sized candy bar when
you were trick or treating, Yes, it's the best. Okay,
I'm gonna disagree. Really, yeah, even though you know there's
more to eat. It violates the spirit of Halloween.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, but as a kid, you just see that big
bar and it's just gluttony takes over.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It violates the spirit of Halloween. But I did eat
it back then.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Now, now, when you bring your how old your kidding.
He's only two, so he's not gonna he's not gonna
go door to door. You basically carry him around with
a couple of houses. Right, it's for me, the candies
for me here.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He has no idea what's going on, right, This is
all for me, right, right, Because now when your kid
gets older, like at what age do they walk around
to trick or treat because I like four or five, Yeah,
with parents supervision. Then I'd say probably when you get
to like seven, eight, nine, you probably go out by yourself, right,
I think it's probably nine or ten you out by
yourself in the neighborhood. Okay, yeah, Now, now I'm a
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terrible parent.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Look at me. I'm sending them out like six years old.
Get out there.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
When you will you eat your kids candy?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh my god, every single piece he gets will be
mine this time in the future.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, some of it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, when your kid's older and he brings some of
the big bag of candy after working for it, do
you regulate how much he eats of it, like per day?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Right then and there? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Nah, he can go as crazy as he wants to.
I'm not gonna be like that. I'm not gonna be
a police state kind of data time.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm going to tell you right now, you're making a mistake,
because that's how kids get fat.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Okay, hey, and one thing, and I say this to
all the parents out there, all the kids out there.
You don't want to get fat. Okay, you just don't
want to get fat. Like it has been such a
bane in my existence. It's hurt my career, it's hurt
me personally. And I'm like people that I'm kidding right now.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Probably I mean that. I mean it could be worse.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I could be a fat, talentless guy who produces a
show in the morning.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
But but but you know, I'm still fat. It ain't good. Okay,
So how about this.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Then he can eat as much candy as he wants,
but for every candy bar he eats, we're running a
gasser outside, Like one candy bar equals one gas.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
That's even worse. Why can't you just teach them a
little bit of personal discipline that I did not have.
That sounds like a lot of work. Five nine x.
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at Mark Madden X. Let's talk now to Tommy Radio.
Tom Should we be talking about the Steelers? Who about
the Penguins, because my god, eight two and two, Like
I said, most points in the league.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'd much rather talk about the Penguins because they're actually exciting,
and I think it's time we have to adjust the
goals to the season. You wrote about that in the trip,
like they forced you to. Now think about making the
playoffs And dare I say, and dare you right win
a playoff game for the first.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Time or series?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well series, Yeah, for the first time since twenty twenty eighteen. Yeah,
I mean, I still would not bet on it nobody.
But in terms of making the postseason, they're building themselves
a cushion.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I looked it up, Tom.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Teams in the playoffs as of Thanksgiving make it seventy
seven point five percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now, what about the team that is like at the
top of the entire freaking league at Thanksgiving. I'd have
to assume that's almost one hundred percent chance that you're
gonna make it. Not to say that the Penguins a
month from now are still gonna be a top of
the league.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I'd like to think the Penguins goaltender could blow it.
Uh No, I mean, well, now it's too late to
get McKenna. It's literally too late to finish low enough
to get McKenna twelve games in to get enough balls
in the lottery. You know, I don't buy into the goaltending.
And it's playing fine except for shootouts. I mean, Jari
(01:21):
did a good job. Was that I just I just
don't believe.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Okay, So do they get that shot of life then
in February when Marashov comes up because he is destroying
the AHL right now?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh yeah, But what would have to happen is that
that somebody gets hurt. They're not going to be in
a playoffs, but with their current goaltending and morrishoff on
a roll in the AHL and disrupt what's going on
up here or disrupt what he's doing down there. So
what I would suggest is that if they're, like, you know,
in second place in the division on February first, that
someone pushes Jari down a flight of steps.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
But what if you know they've built a cushion right now,
what if you just kidding but not really.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
What if you start to see get a sense that
they're fading a bit as far as a team and
as far as a goalie position is concerned, and you're
still in that playoff spot, but it is getting a
little bit tenuous, then maybe you have the opportunity to
pull that trigger without pushing Jari down said flight of stairs.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Now you know, I mean, I see what you're saying,
and in a vacuum, you're right, but.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It would never happen.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But if they're in a playoff spot on February first,
they're not disrupting the goaltending that's got them there.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Kindall scored on the power plate.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Did you know that anytime a Penguins appeared on this show, Tom,
he scores a goal within a week, except the goalies
and Ryan Whitney.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Is that all encompassing like a veteran's rookies or are
you saying like their debut on the show? They always
go out and score all of them.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Every single player, every time. It's something I made up
just now. The contrast between the Penguins and Steelers is
so obvious, isn't it. The Penguins have shed their cloak
of staleness. The Steelers wallow in the pits.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's such a shining example for the Steelers right in
their own backyard of what can happen when you just
change things up, when you just freshen things up. And
it's not like they change thing up from the aspect
of their roster getting much younger. I mean, they still
got a lot of old guys on that Penguins roster,
don't get me wrong, an injection of youth, but they're
still being carried by Sid and Gino right now. Steelers
have an old ass roster. They're past their prime, and
(03:17):
they're not Sids and Gino's nowhere close. They don't have
any of those guys on that roster. But a new
coach and a new approach could do everybody wonders on
that team. Maybe you can get something out of TJ.
Watstone with a new defensive minded coach, with a new
approach overall by a head coach. Stale has just been
the theme for both of those teams for so long.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
It's so stale. I feel stille talking about it.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And now the Penguins have freshened themselves up completely and
now it's Halloween and you have the most points in
the NHL.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
See how that works. Well, The problem is with the
Steelers never changing.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
I mean, there are many problems with that, but it
messes up the accountability factor. There's no accountability for con
and Tomlin, and that's damaging to them. No pressure means
a lesser performance and it's certainly discouraging for the fans.
Now we will talk more Steelers all day, whether we
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want to or not.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
But can Penn State even hang at Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
It's a little weird that Ohio State is only an
eighteen point favorites. And I know that's a lot of points,
but don't you think it should be higher than that
With how Penn State has played. They haven't beaten a
power for team yet this season Penn State, so that
gives me a little bit of pause. I don't think
they can hang with them. The game I'm looking at
for Penn State to kind of maybe make some noise
and hang with the team is not this week, but
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the next week when Indiana comes to Happy Valley, Because
you know Indiana, you still don't know if you fully
buy Indiania. Indiana, even though they look really good, and
I don't know at Happy Valley, that could be the
game where they potentially pull an up, said, Ohio State's
gonna handle them.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, I mean, does it matter what happens from here
on alten And by the way, like now with with
Signetti reupping at Indiana and with Rule reupp agat Nebraska,
to the decision to replace Franklin because even more stupid,
because there's never any good to be had by replacing
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a coach in the middle.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Miami Dolphins, you here, they're gonna fire Mike McDaniel. They
fired the GM today, But you can't turn it around
with a new coach in a game that requires as
much preparation and as much foundation to be laid as football.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You'll wait till the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And I think with Franklin getting fired now, it scared
these schools into keeping their guys.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And now who they're gonna get? Yeah, absolutely, who are
they gonna get?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Maybe Brian Kelly, That's the one I brought up yesterday,
like he got Dix made from LSU. I don't know
if he'd just want to, you know, walk away and
be done with coaching. But I don't know that that
seems to be the only fit or a caliber of
a coach that makes sense and is available to go
to Penn State, and they can kind of talk themselves
into it being an upgrade. James Franklin's the best coach
that's on the market right now.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
You don' wouldn't shock me.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
They can't do it, but it wouldn't shock me if
they cocked themselves into keeping Tearry Smith is the head
coach because he's a Penn State lifer.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, back to what you were talking about with McDaniel
and how he's probably gon.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I like Terry and.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I like covered him when he played in high school,
which is a million years ago at Gateway, but he
ain't the guy.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He ain't it so well, they haven't won a game
under him yet. He just lost to Iowa.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
And what you were saying about McDaniel and the dolphin situation,
they're gonna let him ride out this season. I completely
agree with you because I fear that what you just
described happening if you're in the midst of a coaching change,
is an interim coming in people buying into him because
you know he's been around the team already.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Being a sentient.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Actually, actually, Penn State is doing itself a favor by
continuing to lose under Terry Smith, because that makes him
a less attractive option permanently moving fast.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
That's what I'm saying, Like, you get so much outside
pressure if your interim coach does well and the team
and the players like playing for him, that you almost
have to make that high or else you look like
a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, the World Series go to seven games, Game six tonight,
I kind of like the Dodgers and Yamamoto tonight. Yamamoto,
if LA comes back and wins, he might be the
postseason MVP, even over a time.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, especially because he literally pitches every single inning that
he goes out there. It's such a throwback. He probably
will have to do that tonight because the Dodgers' bullpen
is so weak. You don't want to have to turn
things over to them at least early in the baseball
and you want it rested for Game seven if it
comes to. Yeah, no question, I lean towards the Dodgers
in this one. The Jays have their ace on the mound, though,
but the Dodgers' lineup is so good. I don't think
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that they'll be quiet again, you know, Tawny. I think
we'll have a decent game of the play if they
pitch to him. But I think more importantly, Freddy Freeman
will come through. Mookie Betch just stinks in the World
Series three. He needs to come up. All singles one
run scored.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
How about ikf Lefa the Old Pirate, he's like one
for the series, but he's still in the series.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I know he's still a big part of the Blue Jays.
It's it's really unbelievable to see him out there. He
was batting sixth I think in Game five, but in
Game four he was batting clean up protecting Vladimir Guerrero.
It's like bizarro world.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Can you leave?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
The Penguins are eight two and two. So much for
Gavin mckennab. But still, I mean, you can't help, but
like it. Like I got a text from a Penguin's
lifer who said, this is terrible. They're not going to
get a good draft pick. It's not what's right for
the team in the long run, big picture. But you
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should write to call him that glorifies it because it's
unbelievable and he's right, And I did.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
What's happening right now. Things have stunk around here for
so long as far as professional sports are concerned. And
the Penguins, that's just a product of the natural run
of things, right Like they weren't supposed to be great forever,
and you're getting to the end of your run as
a true dynasty in hockey, so you're supposed to stink
for a little bit. But the other two teams, the
Pirates always think and the Steelers have been stuck in
that nine and eight Relais, Like, God, this feels so
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good to be at the top of the league and
something to be a badass team. Tough stretch coming up, though, Mark,
it's gonna tell a lot with these teams they're playing,
starting with Winnipeg.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
A little review I alluded earlier, Robert Plant was brilliant
wheeling contur to the year, his voice, his phrasing. His
set list was just one hundred percent five Zeppelin songs,
including a medley of Gallows pulling black Dog at the end,
Gonna make you sweat, Go to make you groove. I
think I see Danny dimes a coming riding many a mile.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
What if I've dined the x DX, The breaking news with.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
The Steelers, Well, not breaking, it's something I just didn't
mention in the first segment.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Deshaun Elliott the safety's on.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
IR which, as I understand it means he has to
miss a minimum of four games and they can't afford
to have him miss four games.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
The final score last night and Thursday Night Football, Baltimer
twenty eight, Miami six. The Ravens are three and five
and here they come. How about the odds in Vegas
Baltimore to win the division minus one fifty Pittsburgh plus
one eighty five?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Like I said them, are the odds.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
To win the AFC North More a heavy favorite at
three to five and with the Steelers at four and three.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Tom Lamar is back. Will the Ravens catch the Steelers?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Yeah? I think they are going to catch the Steelers.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I think the records are gonna be on December seventh,
sixth and sixth.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
I might a day that will live in infamy.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I might be wrong with that because the Ravens might
just be seven and five. They might just say screw it,
We're gonna win every game between now and then. We
won't even give one back. You know the Dolphins, you.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Know what they looked like last night and I only
saw like a quarter They looked like a team that
was tired of being bad, and the Steelers look like
a team resigned to being bad and.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
A team that knows they're not this bad. Like it's
damn embarrassing that our record is what it is. We're
way better than this. The Dolphins suck, So it's hard
to like, you know, read way into twenty eight to
six and be like, oh, Ravens, they're back. They're a
juggernaut again. But Lamar is so freaking good at quarterback.
Eighteen for twenty three for four touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
And the hammy seemed okay because he was moving just
like Lamar always moved.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But he doesn't even have to move this year. This year,
he's doing it with his arm. It seems like when
he's healthy, he is just throwing very efficiently, completing a
ton of passes and throwing for a lot of touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Now here's a question I can't answer, Tom, Why are
the Steelers only three point dogs against Indy on Sunday?
I'm considering a sizeable investment, maybe a couple of dimes
on Danny Dimes.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Do you think that that's Vegas kind of reading a
little too much into it and trusting their usual trends
of Oh, Mike Tomlin, Steelers at home, they'll bounce back
in this one. I also think they can sucker a
lot of Steelers money into it with a line that low.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I I no, I disagree.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I think I think if the Steelers were like ten
point underdogs, everybody would bet on the.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Steel hammer them. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And I think that this is just their way of
eving it out, like a Steelers spread where they got
too many points. That would that would be a lopsided
betting handle because there's so many Steeler fans that bet.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Wouldn't that be Vegas being able to get one over
on them, though, because I think the proper line.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Is a nine and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Vegas never tries they try to get fifty anything but
middle it get at fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Fifty fifty with the big right gets a big clean up.
They don't go for that. No, no, no, because that's gambling.
They're not they don't gamble yet, they're in Business's a
good point. I'm thinking, like a gambling did you.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
See the line move into like four to four and
a half by game time, but at eight.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yet it's weird to me. It really feels like, you know,
they should be a nine and a half point favorite.
That's how good I think this Colts offense is. And
they just they obliterate teams like they don't mess around.
Their defense ain't great, though, that's the saving I'll give you.
I'll give you a tease, a tease for later.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You know they're they're third worst than the league in
third non defense.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, I think that's the saving grace for the Steelers.
They have to score a lot of points and this
isn't a defense that is going to be very resistant
to that. It's not like you're playing the Packers defense,
which I thought your offense was okay against. Not like
you're playing the Browns defense, which I thought this offense
was okay against.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
So you should be fine.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
You should be able to move the ball and get
it in the end zone, and you have to because
your defense won't win the game.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
What do you think of the concept of this game
being a quote unquote calm when special a game he
wins because he shouldn't, Like I think Kim said, excuse me,
somebody said yesterday refresh my memory.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Zeiss. Zeiss said that we thought the green Bay game
would be the Tom Win special.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yeah, that's it, Like it just kind of falls flat
when you say it this week, because that was kind
of the talk last week was, Oh, this is what happens.
Mike Common bounces back. Everybody's writing them off. They'll win
on Sunday night football in front of the nation against
the Green Bay Packers. So I can't really get behind
that this week. I can't be like, well, I was wrong.
I was just you know, that sounds like that sounds
like a doomsday sayer, right when they get the end
of the world wrong and they're like, oh, I misread it.
It's actually next year. At this time, we just can't
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keep kicking the can down the road.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I think the world will end into about four h
five Sunday at Akrocher Stadium. If the Steelers win, Let's
play the what if game? Tom.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
If the Steelers win, who's going to make the big
play on offense?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh, it's got to be Dk Metcalf. This has to
be a Rogers Metcalf special if they're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I agree, it's going to be Dk because he's the
only one on offense. Who can make a big play, Although,
as I've been saying, I give Warren credit is he
is per near, if not plumb, when it comes to
being a legit number one running back. If the Steelers win,
Who makes the big play on defense?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Oh, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
It's gotta be like a Watt probably coming in on
a Jonathan Taylor run. Maybe a strip of the ball
in one of those Watt punches that he likes to say,
something like that, Just get the ball out somehow. Turnovers
are gonna be a must against an offense like that
because they score almost every time they touch the ball,
So you got to take the ball away.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I'm gonna say Joey Porter Junior, because at least I
don't hate him. You know who typifies the Steelers Patrick Queen,
the inside backer like Trey Essex tweeted he had a
couple of good games and people thought he had turned
a corner, and then last week he sucked. Just when
we started to believe, Patrick Queen went back to being rotten.
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And again that kind of reflects the entire Steelers season.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you know what's really bugging me about Patrick Queen
is this communication problems that the Steelers are having on defense,
And now everybody's saying, well, that's just gonna be even
worse now because Elliott's out. Elliott's the guy that's back
there at that safety position, making sure everybody's in the
right spot, making sure everybody knows what they're supposed to
do on this play. And I'm like, okay, if Elliott's
good at it. Elliott's good at it, but isn't that
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like just a traditional cliche job of an inside linebacker,
of a guy that has that green dot to be
the quarterback of that defense. And Patrick Queen just cannot
do that. Minca had to do that for him when
Minca was here. Now Deshaun Elliott has to take on
that role. And again, if your safety's really good at it, fine,
but you shouldn't fall apart like you do if Queen's
still out there because Elliott's gone.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
He supposed to be the job of an inside backer
because he's right in the middle of everything.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
He should command all of it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And they looked like chickens with their head cut off
the second Elliot went out. So I got a problem
with Queen there, Like, dude, that is not you playing
the position like it's supposed to be played. You got
that green dot on the back of your helmet for
a reason.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Act like it.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Oh, we talked yesterday about Steelers who haven't necessarily disappointed
Aaron Rodgers in the offensive line. That's who came up
yesterday Again, I'd like that Jalen warn of that list.
He's been a semblance of a number one back and
has run with more power than I I thought he could.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Jalen Warren's been really good. He's not a number one
elite back, you know, like the back you're playing this week,
the one you played last week in Josh Jacobs. But
I'm starting to come around that maybe he can get
to that tier below those guys and kind of be
like that, that next level of starting caliber running backs
in this league. He's definitely one that you should throw
in the mix. On defense, Mark, I'd throw Nick Herbig
in there. They just don't play him.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
They don't.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But that's not his fault. Was he supposed to just
run on the field on his own? Yes, that would
be great, That would be great. Like no, Alex, you
stay on the bench, You're like trip Alex Heismith on
the way out.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Joe Green did that one time. He benched Fats Holmes
to go back on the field. No, no, to go
to sit, sit down. He was on the sideline. And
I think the defensive coordinators again, name whatdy weedenhaw for
back when right?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Why would he be putting Joe Green on the sideline.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
No, no, no, no, Joe Green benched Fats Holmes. He
told Fats to get off the field. Oh, I see
what you're saying. Green is playing with him, okay, And
the coordinator come up to Fast and said, what are
you doing over here? He goes that Joe told me
to sit down, and he goes, yeah, but that's not it.
And Fast because listen, he goes, you can't kick my ass,
Joe cann He goes, Joe said he'd let me know
when to go back in, and Steve Ferness was in instead,
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and uh. And after the defense came off the field,
like like, the defensive coordinator went up to Joe jack
Ham told his story and like said, Joe, we want
Fast back out there, and Joe like said something like yeah,
but Joe Green. Now, who is gonna tell Joe Green.
Though apparently none of the coaches or the other players.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
SATs was was insane.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
He fired a rifle at a police helicopter and he
came off the field because Joe Green told him to.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
He was scared of me and Joe Green. That's unbelievable.
I am every time I see him.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Don't forget tonight, Uh whippy old playoff action starts for
high school football and then the five A playoffs. North
Hills at Bethel Park, first round. So good luck to
North Hills. Come on, you Indians. If the weather holds out,
Tom I will be there, only only a nineteen minute
drive from the studio.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You can just feel it in the air. Round one
high school football playoffs. It's so good. I can almost
hear the snare drum mark winnable game. But I wish,
I wish. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I mean, Northhill's lost to Shaler, which is disappointing to
me on so many levels. But if North Hills were
to beat Shalor and that was at North Hills, they
would have a home playoff game tonight. Forget Bethel Park.
You can go in there and beat the Bethel Parks.
Come on, they're good, They're good. I think it's gonna
be Yeah. I think it's gonna be an even game.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
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Speaker 3 (19:50):
They got your back, not your wallets.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Uh I say again, How about those Penguins at eight
two and two after winning last night at Minnesota four
one Penguins, Penguins top of the league. Penguins top of
the league. And wow, what a great third period, perhaps
the Penguins best period of the year. Rush say and
kindle with the goals and then Manta putting through the
empty net. Sid had no points and Gino only had won.
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And that's good. You gotta win games when them guys
don't dominate. And now it's a Winnipeg tomorrow at three pm.
The Jets are eight and three. Maybe it's a preview
of the Stanley Cup Final. No, really, it's probably the Penguins'
first big test, really big test.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I mean at Florida. They won, but Florida just so
beat up.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I can't take them well, I mean I take them
seriously because so many of those guys won two straight
Stanley Cups. But without bar Cuff and Kachuck, that's a
winnable game at Florida for the Penguins, and they proved
that by winning tom eight.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Two and two is a bit hard to fathom. One
hundred percent unexpected.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, unexpected, And you're just getting to the point now
where you kind of have to start to expect to
make the playoffs. Not expected, but that that should be
what the goal is for the season, because I mean,
the math is just starting to add up for you
that it would be really hard to blow this either.
Getting to that Thanksgiving point, like you said, they'll probably
be in a playoff spot by then, and their odds
just go way up. So you have to adjust your
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outlook now.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Like I said earlier, it's so evident that the Penguins
are prospering by change, while the Steelers have remained stale.
But it is a Steeler Friday as we await a
Sunday's public execution at at for sure, come watch the
execution with me at the Schoolhouse, Tavern and Clarage at
one pm. A lot of stuff to give away, and
I will help you drown your sorrows if indeed they
(21:45):
do get killed as I expect, or maybe they'll win.
Maybe it will be a Tom Win special. I might
put two dimes on Danny dimes. Not sure, but the
Steelers getting just three, it just doesn't seem enough. But again,
and we'll talk more late the Colts defense, it might
not be that great, uh, Bart Scott, we got signed later.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Tom.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
He called the Steelers paper champions today on ESPN. He
said they can't touch back, and he's right.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, you get into a game with a team like this,
you just worry that they just don't have what it
takes to keep up. Although their offense has been playing better,
and maybe they do have the ability to hit him
with that counter.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
The offense pulled the Cincinnati game out of the fire
and the defense gave it back. Yep, the offense had
them in the lead against Green Bay and the defense gave.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
It back the offense.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
There is no blame whatsoever to be put on the offense,
to be put on Aaron Rodgers, to be put on
Jalen Warren, to be put on an improving offensive line.
That doesn't mean they couldn't do some stuff better, but
they have put the Steelers in a position to win
as often as not, and the defense gives it back.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
And the offense saved them right out of the gates
of the embarrassment of losing to the old quarterback Justin
Fields and the New York Jets because the defense was
getting torched by that Jets offense and the offense saved him.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's one thing that we conveniently forget about that the
Steelers needed a sixty yard field goal at the death,
yes to beat the worst team in the league, and
they got out played badly by New England, and New
England just made mistake after mistake and gave the game
to the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, thank god Rogers threw for four touchdowns, and thank
god Boswell's the best kicker in football, or else you
would have lost to the Jets right out of the gate.
So they saved the embarrassment there. So I as far
as you know, they can't punch back. Maybe they can
a little bit more because they can play in a
track meet, but they'll probably end up losing that track
meet because other teams just have so much more superior
weaponry on their offense than the Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Did you bind the Colt Jet? Yeah, I got seven
to one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I do buy into the Colts. I see the obvious comparison.
I'm sure you have two that they're this year's my
Minnesota Vikings from last year, right, and Danny Dimes as
Sam Darnold, Except they have Jonathan Taylor this year, and
you'd counter by saying, oh, well, they had Justin Jefferson
on the Vikings. Yeah, it's a little easier to get
the ball in Jonathan Taylor's hands than it is to
pass it to Justin Jefferson downfield. Though I buy into
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the Colts. Their offensive line is so bad ass led
by Quenton Nelson, that defense is the one side of
the ball where you're kind of like.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Let me jump in, Like I said, at ranks thirtieth
and third nine defense, twenty fourth in yardage forty one
yards better than the Steelers, it should be noted at
ranks seventh and scoring defense, which means it can stiffen.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, it bends, it doesn't break. They played a lot
of bummy quarterbacks to this point though, too.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Matt Williamson pointed out, I forget the exact number on
his stat pack, though, that the Colts will allow you
to turn a set of downs into a new one.
In other words, they'll let you stay on the field.
They'll bend, but they won't break. And the Steelers really
got to do that. They got to possess the ball
and then score touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Then, but don't break stuff. That is the siren song
of a defense. It's not that good and will eventually
blow up.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But then if you have an offense that's as elite
as the Colts offense, maybe you can survive with a
defense that's different.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Right well, now, speaking of me, maybe two dimes on
Danny dimes, uh with taking the Colts giving the Steelers three?
Did you know, Tom, the Colts have covered this year
by an average of almost eleven points so far. If
that figure would hold for the season, it would be
the highest figure ever. And yet the Colts are only
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favored by three on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I don't think you should shy away from that.
I think that that gives you pause seeing that little number.
Why are they only favored by three? I'd take it.
I think the Colts are gonna win by at least ten,
So go with the Colts. I mean, they could win
thirty one to twenty seven and you're still covering that
spread if you get it in right now. So I
think that that's not a lock, but it's pretty close
to being one. What do you think about the total
(25:40):
fifty and a half the over under? I think that
flies over. It depends how tom Win approaches the game. Like,
the Colts could win like forty or three. Yeah, right,
If tom Win plays basketball, it'll go way over.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That defense is still might get killed, But.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
If they play basketball, the score will go way over.
If they just try to match the Colts score for score.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Will at least get to I think twenty.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Well, you know what, you know what the Steelers' biggest
hope is that Rogers sees it. The only way to
win this game is the kind of play basketball, and
that he prods Tom and in that direction.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
God, I hope on the very first drive, Mark, we
get a fourth and three on the Colts, like thirty
four yard line and they kick a field.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I hope we get that scenario, just to see right here,
right away. Are you gonna shift your philosophy? Are you
going to lean more towards your offense? Are you gonna
play the same old kickfield goals and win with defense?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Football?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
A grazylown on ESPN, he called the Colts a red
zone special. He's one of the doubters right now. He said,
you see their highlights on red zone, nobody ever watches
them for sixty minutes, and their defense might not be great.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's right about the last part, but I don't know
what he's referring to as far as the first couple
of parts are concerned.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
They have the best running back in football.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Maybe people don't know enough about them, because if you
see that goes for a lot of teams that, like
the Indianapolis Colts aren't a big brand name, no, And
if you just see their highlights, you might these highlights,
you might overrate them. And again, oh, rated doesn't translate
to them not being very good. It just means their
highlights are just Wilza.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
But now that you're kind of looking at it in
more of a closer lens, especially us this week as
we're getting ready for them to play the Steelers, Like,
the offense has no weakness.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Danny Dimes is.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
The weakness that people are waiting to kind of avail itself,
but it hasn't yet. He's been great. He's been one
of the best quarterbacks in football. He's an MVP candidate.
They have great receivers, they have the best tight end
in football maybe, and he's a rookie. They have the
best running back in football. And their offensive line is badass.
Like I disagree with Graziano on that. I think the
Colts offense is for real and it's an offensive league,
So you hate Grazion I do.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Okay, Tom, this next segment and I'm making sure we
get out of this once we have time to talk,
is going to be about favorite Halloween tract.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yes, with today being Halloween.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I remember I said I was debating whether or not
to leave candyat in a bowl on the stoop because
I'm not gonna be around tonight. Well, if your tricker
treating in my neighborhood, kids, I'm afraid I've got some
bad news, but I do have good news too. MTV
canceled Ridiculousness after fourteen seasons. That is a step in
the right direction for eliminating buffoonery on the airwaves, although
(28:14):
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Speaker 3 (28:55):
Tom It's Halloween. Will you be a costume tonight?
Speaker 1 (28:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I will not be in costume tonight, Mark, What about
what about you know, trick or treating?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, the kid's going to be in costume? What was
cost it is going to be is Daniel Tiger. Hell,
Dan Tigre's a cartoon. You wouldn't get it. You shouldn't
be watching Daniel Tiger. It'd be really weird if you,
as a sixty plus year old man, was sitting down
and watching that.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, thank you for pointing out my age. What have
we got for the trifecta?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Well, for today's trifecta, since it is Halloween, we have
to embrace cliche and go with Halloween candy. So here's
my top three. And this is incredibly hard to narrow down.
I love a lot of.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
It is top three in descending order.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yes, in descending order for me personally. Again, so I
know people out there, don't sharpen your pitchforks because I
leave something out.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
It's a tough call. It is number three for me.
It's going to be the Twix spar I Love. As
in ascending order. You just said it would be in
descending order.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Now it's I want my number one to be last. Okay,
whatever that means. That heightens the suspense. Yes, always well
received segment. So number three is the twig spar I Love.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
A good TwixT spar that cookie kind of middle and
the chocolate and the caramel.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's just so damn good.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
I am a fan of TWT TwixT and the nugget
Number two for me are Eminem's.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I could eat a bucket load of Eminem's.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
That's the candy where I probably overeat it too much,
Like I'll just be like, I went way too hard
on those.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Here's my complaint.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, Eminem's in the Halloween sized packets, it ain't enough
like a twix Halloween sized candy bar.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
That seems like more than an Eminem.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
The size you get like what five m and ms mms, yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Although it is fun.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
If you have like five of them, you can just
like rip them open then throw them now like you're
almost taking eminem shooters.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I would be more likely, oh good comparison, I would
be more likely to rip them open and por them
all in the bowl so.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I have a big bullet Eminex keep going.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Do you like the variations of eminems like the peanut
butter filled the peanut.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I object in principle to the variations of Eminem's, but
I eat here's the ones I like. I like, of course,
playing a peanut both, right, I like the caramel, and
didn't they do it like a fudge cookie one too?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Something like that.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I might have had some really unique crust of her.
The peanut butter one are really good, but they're really rich.
You can't eat too much.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, but they're but you know you get reeses for that.
And that's my number one mark.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I know that's super cliche as well, that's really mainstream,
but I embrace that and it's a reason why it's
so mainstream because it is so damn good.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well, okay, my number one.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
And by the way, the trifector brought was by Danny's
Pizza and hogis Pittsburgh's original oven bake togy since nineteen sixty.
That's Danny's Root eighty eight in Bethel Park. I would
take a Danny's Hogy my trick or treat bag. Yeah,
little messy.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Well, here's a big key not to get ahead of
this before you reveal yours, Like, you need to have
some variety in the trick or treat bag. It can't
just be all chocolates. I need to see some fruit
snacks in there. Some bummies, yes, yes, like fruit snack gummies,
like fruit.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Back in my day, they would throw an apple in there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Forget that. That's the worst. No, I'm talking like fruit
by the foot. I'm talking like fruit gushers. I'm talking
that kind of stuff. Skittles.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Okay, here, well, here's here's my number one No. As
a kid, Nestle's Crunch. I love a crunch was my
number one. Nestlie's crunch. One hundred thousand dollar bars too,
but like again, segueing into being sixty four one hundred
thousand dollar bars now with the caramel or liby yank
(32:16):
got a feeling or take off a crown.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It's a good point. You know what else is like
that Airhead's laughy taffy, those kind of camp.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I wouldn't even I wouldn't even at any age have
eaten laughy taffy. But but now, my favorite Halloween candy,
which is kind of a superfluous statement because I don't
trick or treat, but it's KitKat. Kit Cat's probably my
favorite candy right now, if you narrow me down to one,
you know why, adult thing? It's good with coffee, yeah,
I can definitely see it kick cat and coffee, Yeah,
(32:42):
I could see it being good I've never done it,
but that's just a way. That was an ad campaign
for them to have KitKat with coffee at your coffee break.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
And it died like a dog.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It's such a you know, you break it off and
it's such a dippable kind of candy bar.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
As well.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Y arm Or Yager loved kitkit cats, which is big
thing as a teenager. None of what you just brought
up is bad by any stretch.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
And if you.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Girls would give him kit cats, and I'm I'm pretty
sure I know what he gave them.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
If you were to resent me, was the kit cat.
Those three candy bars, I'm eating those with glee. Those
are all so great. Yes, they're great.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Now now I will give credit to it's your number
one Reese's peanut butter cups. And especially you'll disagree if
this time of year they're pumpkin flavored. They're just because
they do it right. They don't overwhelm with the pumpkin.
It just has that little pumpkin smidge in there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
I disagree. I do not disagree. I think the pumpkin
shaped Greasas are so damn good. I think the Christmas
shaped Greeceas are good too. I think you get more
surface area of peanut butter in those specialty ones that
I think just elevates it to a different level.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And Tom as listeners know, Reese's Peanut butter cups are
the only way I ingest peanuts.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I have never had a peanut butter sandwich ever. No,
never my mom. I used to take jelly in my
lunch box to school with grade school, back when you
took lunch of school, and one time my mom put
peanut butter and jelly in there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I refuse to eat it.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was like in fourth grade, and I recall coming
home and saying words along the lines that she betrayed me,
something something very dramatic, like if it was now, I
would have said, she turned heel.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I have a PB and Jane the fridge. Actually no
that I'm thinking, do you want to try one? Right now?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
For the the only way I consume peanut butter is
in Reese's Peanut butter cups. I I like even like
you know how sometimes at fancy parties they fill celery
sticks with peanut butter.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yes, I would rather have that jammed in my eye
than eat it. Now, moving on to other candies, some
of the lesser lights.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I'm anti Starburst, anti Nerds'm anti Skittles, I'm anti anything
homemade and wrapped in foil or wax paper or saran wrapped.
Correct could be poisoned, could be razor blades jammed in there,
but the basics are almost all good. Like we mentioned snickers, twigs, Yes,
(35:03):
Milky Way, three Musketeers, and the bigger the better. Although
you ever get like a full sized candy bar when
you were trick or treating, Yes, it's the best. Okay,
I'm gonna disagree. Really, yeah, even though you know there's
more to eat. It violates the spirit of Halloween.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, but as a kid, you just see that big
bar and it's just gluttony takes over.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
It violates the spirit of Halloween. But I did eat
it back then.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Now, now, when you bring your how old your kidding.
He's only two, so he's not gonna he's not gonna
go door to door. You basically carry him around with
a couple of houses. Right, it's for me, the candies
for me here.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He has no idea what's going on, right, This is
all for me, right, right, Because now when your kid
gets older, like at what age do they walk around
to trick or treat because I like four or five, Yeah,
with parents supervision. Then I'd say probably when you get
to like seven, eight, nine, you probably go out by yourself, right,
I think it's probably nine or ten you out by
yourself in the neighborhood. Okay, yeah, Now, now I'm a
(35:56):
terrible parent.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Look at me. I'm sending them out like six years old.
Get out there.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Now?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
When you will you eat your kids candy?
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh my god, every single piece he gets will be
mine this time in the future.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, some of it.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, when your kid's older and he brings some of
the big bag of candy after working for it, do
you regulate how much he eats of it, like per day?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Right then and there? What do you do?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Nah, he can go as crazy as he wants to.
I'm not gonna be like that. I'm not gonna be
a police state kind of data time.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I'm going to tell you right now, you're making a mistake,
because that's how kids get fat.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Okay, hey, and one thing, and I say this to
all the parents out there, all the kids out there.
You don't want to get fat. Okay, you just don't
want to get fat. Like it has been such a
bane in my existence. It's hurt my career, it's hurt
me personally. And I'm like people that I'm kidding right now.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Probably I mean that. I mean it could be worse.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I could be a fat, talentless guy who produces a
show in the morning.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
But but but you know, I'm still fat. It ain't good. Okay,
So how about this.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Then he can eat as much candy as he wants,
but for every candy bar he eats, we're running a
gasser outside, Like one candy bar equals one gas.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
That's even worse. Why can't you just teach them a
little bit of personal discipline that I did not have.
That sounds like a lot of work. Five nine x.
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