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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What did I just dream for? What did I just
dream for? What did I just dream for? Even bore
through the door? Thank you? Thanks Ray trip my question?
(00:22):
He smells did you sniff? Did you sniff? Shaggy? Oh
he is so sniffable. Look at that. Wait in a minute,
get over here, get over here.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I was dreaming of Shaggy walked into the door and
then here he blows on through.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And he looks good. Looks that top im?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Look? Oh yeah, you tell you Mas Salvation Army third
battle down.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
You got a good deal on that. Let me tell
you boy, Hey, so did he tell.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
You he's moved to my neighborhood? I know we gotta
get into that to call me. There goes the neighborhood.
I'm gonna tell this story in a second. Okay, Shaggy,
thank you for coming in today. I just want to
say you're looking so lovely this morning. You're beautiful and
it shows.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, I see so you And Robin Thick is so
smooth and so fantastic. Oh, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Man. You know I don't put them out as often
as I should, but I want to cultivate them and
make sure they're right when I come with them.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, you just call these people up and be like, hey,
you know what.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Most of my collaborations are through relationships, but with this one,
I'd met Robin at a showed we did together, me
and him and Whitecliffe, and we ended up hanging out
and we ended up just having a really really fun time.
And when I wrote the record, I was like, you know,
let me send this to him, and he called me
back and says, Yo, Normally I wouldn't mess with the sample,
(01:47):
but the way you sounding it, yo, let me yo.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I had to jump on.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
This, and he said the vocals back and it was
just amazing, and I was like, Yo, let's do this man.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Let's talk about another relationship. Sting. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean when I first heard you just a were
together and what I said that you read that wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That's my brother man that was with him a couple
of days ago. Well, you're gonna be in his his show. Here,
I'm in the show.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I just we just wrapped uh Paris, and then we're
coming here at the met in June, which you will
be at.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh god, I'm sorry, I'm busy in June. Well you
will Castle June night to the fourth. In Stinging Shaggy
The Last Ship. Wow, I know you're in.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You're doing The Last Ship for a limited run here
in New York City at the Metropolitan Opera House. Yes, right,
June ninth through the fourteenth. Yes, sir, okay, I just
got I've got the dates.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Now I have it.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I was going to raw dog this interviewed by Decide.
Maybe I'll write some stuff. Let's talk about relationships, Yes, sir,
you know. And this is a place to anyone listening
to this show, wherever you are right now, driving to
work or home.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
From work, or wherever. It's about the relationships in your life. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Look what a payday you've had. And these other artists
you've formed relationships with, Yeah, we've all got these relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
We have a relationship. Yeah, something big. We're gonna we're
gonna become billionaires because of this relationship. I have how
that's gonna happen?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Well, you know, you get purpose after a while. I
have no I think Denzel Washington said, you've never seen
a Hue hol strap behind a hers. You can't take
it with you when you go, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So I would like to just try that.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You can't take it.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
All the conversations will get started, be driving to New
York City.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, that'd be but you know, you find purpose after
a while that it's really people's lives that you've touched.
Every one of these people that work here, right and
are part of your show, you've touched her life, this
person's life, that person's life, and sometimes they're life changing.
Every person I wrote Hotshot, it was eleven people that
bought homes and started their lives. You know, when you
go on tour, your you're on tour, maybe five hundred
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people who are truck drivers, riggers, concession stamp people. That's
five hundred electric bills, school fees, mortgages, and one of
them kids might go to an Ivy League school and find.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
A cure for cancer.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You're part of an equation, and once that reality hits you,
then life becomes easy.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
You know, you know it's it goes back to the
old movie Jimmy Stewart. It's a wonderful life, right had
he not been born, how the world would have been
a different place exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
And so it's good.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's good to stop down and all shaggy like you're
doing right now, like okay.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
But you've been doing it for a while. Look, how
long you've thirty years? Yeah, you've done great.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Here's a U haul Okay, put it on the back
of yourhearse. Oh, by the way, our hearse is all
the way to your house.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
So I was having a great conversation about you the
other day, Shaggy oh bless about how you what you
do for music in the Caribbean is obviously it's your passion.
It started in Jamaica with you, and then it just
radiates out across the entire region. Why is it so
important to always maintain those roots and always be a
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champion for other artists?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You know in the Islands, the model of Jamaica is
out of many one piece people. So my grandmother was white.
Right when I was in school, it was a Chinese
guy to say, yoh, everything go yeah, yeah, you know,
I mean it's we're all just one you know. I
mean when you think about what the roots of this
small country with lesson at that time, maybe less than
three million people, and the impact of that we bro
(05:18):
we have a bop sled team and we don't even
have snow.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's to show you the type of over reading. That
was an amazing movie, by the way, it was the
overachievers that we are.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So that's why it's important for me to actually always
carry the flag no matter how I I love that
we should all be carrying flags for places, people and things.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yes, we should champion these things.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But speaking of the genre, I mean, if you go
to Spotify and you look at their biggest sellers in
that genre, you are in the top three, number two.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Who's number one?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I think it's Sean Paul, Yeah, number three. Between me
and Bob, we go back on.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Let me check the ground. You just dropped the name.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
We go back and forth sometimes by sometimes me thought,
you know it's an it's now we goes.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Go back and it goes back to what we were
talking about earlier. Purpose and to.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Have lasted this long, you gotta be good to last
as long, bro, So congratulations.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
It's so you're basically like the president of all of
the Caribbean. And I say this because we were at
the Nasau Paradise Island Wine and Food Festival.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Last year. I know you pulled up.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I thought it was genuinely a president of some countries
pulling up like so many cars all together, and then
I thought, who's going to hop out of this car?
And it was you, and I was so happy to
see you. But I thought, damn, who are you traveling with?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, you know, the wine and food festival. The food
festival there is always great in Bahamas. It's like one
of the things.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That you like. I just missed it was last week. Yeah,
it's just always good.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Uh. You know, I've been there just by hanging out,
you know, but now I kind of go there when
they pay me.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Well, and they should.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Hey, it's not a spectator sports, no, no, so as that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, so look, let's talk about Miami. So I was
in a restaurant at restaurant mister C in the middle
of Coconut Grove, my new town, with my friends who
are helping me with my new house, your new house.
And my friend Susie says, that handsome man at that
table keeps staring at me. And I said, there's no
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handsome man. That's shaggy, and she said he's getting up.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
He's walking over here, and that was her husband. To
my left. Press walked up and give me a big hug.
She said, Damn, I thought it was it was me.
He was after he said, no, he wants me.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It was so funny to run into you, and we
found out that we lived just blocks away from each other,
and I.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
See lots of sleepovers.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
And then I was like, that's that Elvis. I'm looking
at him at the corner because you had the.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Bar right as I usually am if you need to
find me.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, so he is in my neighborhood. Now he's around it.
So you know you coming down.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Welcome down, man, I'm excited about it. It is fantastic.
Have you finished the house yet? No, God knows that
house is gonna finish me before I'm gonna fish. It's
a money pit, man. Every time they open God, they
all are rally.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But it was a money pit. I'm getting out of
it now. It's gonna be nice though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Nice to be your neighbor. Yeah, it's fantastic. So let's
talk about Lottery. Let's talk about the album You Go first. Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
You know, I I damned it lottery because I'm betting
on myself and I've always betted on myself, So Lottery
really it really embodies that and making records that I
that I could just put myself into and say, okay, this.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
This will work.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
So, speaking of betting on yourself, has there been a
song that you got into a little bit of an
argument with the label about where you said this is it,
this is gonna be a.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Hit, all of them all.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Really.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, there's there's a documentary right now. It's called
the Making of It Wasn't Me on YouTube if you
watch it, and it shows you what happened to that
song when the label didn't want it and the management
didn't want it, and then kidding me and there was
a DJ that's why you got all those guys unemployed? Now,
that's why, yeah, well all of them are. Yeah, but
uh you got to love radio guys and love radio.
(09:13):
And there was a DJ out of Hawaii that actually
played it, you know, and uh after his fifth play
the phones lit up and we were off.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
To the races.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Is the same Djit actually played from the same album
Angel and it blew up just the same way, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
So it's always I've always had a great relationship and
the love affair with radio, and I still think it's
important to this day.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So we're on it.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And that's really out of so all of them, even
with Boombastic, Uh I had Old Carolina was massive.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Remember that song boom shackaack. Why ain't your body? Yeah,
your body?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, that was the spin off of all Carolina. They
would like four teas me, tease me with chacademus implies
all those records.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Is massive. Yeah, those guys.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Were all they deal and and when I came back
with the next song, which was boombastic, the label was like,
what the.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Hell is this? This doesn't sound like Carolina.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But it was the first danceaul number one to date
to the first the debut with number one fortune make
an artist in the British chart. Were there any that
you put out that you wish you didn't put out?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Lots? Oh really yeah, lots.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I put things out under pressure wood record company and
management all the time. And but in my Hearts of Arts,
I know I didn't like those records and I was right.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
You know, we've been with Shaggy for just a few minutes.
All the takeaways so far. Bet on yourself, yeah right,
believe in yourself, relationships.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, it's key things that you just need in life.
I was just having a conversation. I said, hey, listen,
it gets better when you get older. Man.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Apart from the aches, I could do it when you
get off off the couch.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, yeah, you know, you know when you take your
like if you go to the toilet to go pee,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
That's why I've been pooping in my pants the hole
over here.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Like you know, you normally would just stand up and
just hold it. Now you got to hold the wall.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Can you Can you get out of a chair without
making the weird noises that Nate makes when he gets
out of a chair.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Standing up out of your chair, I think we all
do after a certain after a certain age.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
But the good thing is that being outside of your
comfort zone is growth. Being uncomfortable is growth. You know,
stink throwing me into a musical that I've never acted
in and just saying, hey, you're going to do it,
and then convincing the whole company that I'm the right guy,
and me going in there and alien that's uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Good for you, But that's that's growth.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So I look for the uncomfortable every single time, and
just to get up in.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
The morning and hit the gym.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I hate it, but I do it, you know what
I mean, because I'm aiming for greatness, you know what
I mean. And to do that and perfect your craft,
you need all of these things. So when you get older,
you enjoy it more. He's enjoying Miami now. If he
was younger, right and doing, he would still be he
would never made that trip.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
He wouldn't have made that move, man, because I love
Miami so much. I'm now loving New York more. I mean,
and I'm perspectives, you know what. I'm always gonna be
a New Yorker Miami's.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Can I ask I need some more cocoa yack? I
still have my bottle at home. Man. That was that
was a dream that should have happened. You know what.
I love it.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was so good, but you broke cocoa yat. Yes,
I got that cake and I was, Oh, I was psychedelic. Yeah,
stuff was flying past my head. Got me and John Frank.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We're ready to go. And you know they just made
him off.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
He can refuse. They bought the company, Jager mister book
the company.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yea, the best dream. That almost bottle is beautiful, like
it's like it's a cologne bottle. Yeah, it's built it
like a cologne bottle. And you got me so high
that day.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
What was in this?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It still makes you walk side of us. Oh, but
it tastes like a vacation doll.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
It tasted like the Caribbean. Yes, that good. You love
your psychedelics. You would love some cocainat in it. It was.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
It's it's really uh it's flavored kangnak okay, but it's coconut.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
H It was so good.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And it's just you know, have some of her body,
a little kit. Little kittens were flying around in mid air,
like there's a kitten flying in front of me. It
was so I want to talk about Let's go back
to relationships for a second. You were sitting in our
Sandals Caribbean green room a second ago, and you remember
sponsorship by.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
The way, Yeah, well, Adam, and it's it's nice and plush.
I'm not even like I've been to many studios. This
is probably the nicest thing. I felt like I was
on vacation.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, but I tell you we have a great relationship
with Sandals. And yeah, man, I tell you what, Adam,
you know, carrying on the tradition from his dad. Butch
who you knew Butch very well. You guys would call
upon each other. This guy ran resorts when you were
you're an artist, but you found this common ground.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, you know, I was. I was his favorite artist.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
So you would call you know when it would when
they were opening a new Sandals and call me and
be like okay, perform and whatnot. And you know him
as somewhat kept it also the tradition going because you know,
his dad meant so much to him. So it's been
It was a great relationship with his dad. His dad
was a people guy. He would know everybody. You know,
I don't care if he was the guy at the
gate that opened the gate. He knew everyone, and he
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remembered their names and he treated everyone. He was big
on relationships, so big up to Butch. He's one of
them guys that's missed man.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And we had we had lunch with Adam not too
long ago. The fact that they're keeping that legacy going.
Man fantastic works his ass off and they really, oh yeah,
he's a work alive man.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I got goes, I go. I've got a few results.
I need to go sample myself. I'll be doing that soon. Okay.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So the album was on May fifteen, May fifteen, and uh,
it's also you know, I got a lot of great
people on there. I got you know, Uh, Anthony Hamilton
is also on there.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
On the track with me. That's great. I just dropped
the record with me Barriss, Hammon and Decks adapts. If
you went to dance all you that's a banger right now?
Look at me. I'm such a dance hall looking guy,
right you know? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Akon and Acon we just dropped one earlier too, So
there's a lot of there's a lot of records on
are Sting of course, and when I team up again
on this record too.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So did they come just start a country or something.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
City?
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Let me tell you something. Acon is always starting something.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You don't build anything unless you start. Oh man, that
guy is That guy's a busy guy. That's that's also
another pro guy, very professionally. He comes in you know.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I remember I send a boombody to him and listened
to it and he just showed up at my house
as good as go.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Na.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You know, I still have to give him my address.
He didn't google it.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I want to play the song. I want to play
looking Lovely? How long did Bill Withers hold that note
at the end of Lovely Day?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
The only person I see whole that note that long?
Also is Sting? Does he big ass lungs? Dude?
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That dude could hold a note like all the way
you run out of bread and and and when him
and I are doing the record we get to that part,
he makes sure we started that he gets to He's
the part that he gets to sing that part. So
I said, you know, and he's like, I got to
sing that part.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
It's kind of my thing. You don't say, notice sing,
I guess Can I ask my alien?
Speaker 4 (16:13):
My alien question?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
You have the best question of this interview with Shaggy
from Gandhi. This is such a Gandhi question.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Yes, okay, do you believe in aliens before we go
down this stay?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
I think there are a lot of them sitting amongst us. Yeah,
there's one in the corner. Yeah, here for sure.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Okay, So you know, there have been all these rumors
now that we're actually making contact and maybe they're closer
than we thought. Like you just said, if you had
to look at your catalog over the past thirty years
and you have to pick one song that we are
going to play for the aliens to introduce them to
Earth and to you.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
What is the song?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Bombastic? Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Yeah, it's just sound. It sounds alien anyway, Unt dunt
dunt miss.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
The Lave of Love, aw miss the love of Love?
Where are you from? What plan?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
It is?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
What it is?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, they'll they'll they'll relate to that. They'll relate to that.
Let's shoot that into the galaxy if we have any takers.
See what are you a flat earder? Absolutely not? Are
you a flat No? This is my point.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
We were talking about this the other day. We're talking
about all the conspiracy theories going on. Right, Yeah, did
we ever land on the moon?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Did we? Ten years ago? Doubt that too. I'm just saying,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Remember all the conspiracies that are floating out there. Ten
years ago, I would say, you're you're silly, You're right,
your freaking mind. Now, I believe anything is possible.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
I believe anything.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Now. I also believe that anything is possible that they
would you're tricking us the whole time, sure, you know,
but there's also things that are possible that you never
you know. I went to the Vatican the other day
and I had the opportunity to go into the libraries,
and that's like four stories down onto the how.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You get in there?
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I got friends in low places and one of the
stories is like AI has been here hundreds of years
from before. And it shocked me. And it's written in
those books, books that I couldn't touch, by the way,
because they're that old, you know, but there were copies
of it. Wow, and it was like, you know, and
(18:22):
then you see all like they're saying a lot of
things that we think is the first is not the first,
and it's kind of a way because you haven't done
some things back in your day. And then it says, well,
you know, this new jock come and say he's the
first to ever do this, Like why because we didn't
have Internet and Facebook and Instagram. You felt it wasn't done.
It could be a situation like that where things was done,
(18:44):
but you just we just didn't know. Well, never know,
but it's great to have that fantasy, that imagination. I
just think that there's a lot of things not just
gonna make your life easier. You better go to the gym,
because you're gonna be, you know, sitting at your house
not doing.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Jack the words of Shaggy you know what. I want
to go back and listen to this interview again and again.
But you you've you've nailed some things down tightly today
and I like that it's it's it's it's growth, man,
And then you go through a bunch of changes. You know,
the person you are now is not the same person
you were five years ago. I will not be the
same person next five years.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Let me.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't mean to play top that, but I'm not
the same person I was five minutes ago. Because of
the things you've said.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
In this room.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Well that's good because it's we all evolve in that.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Isn't that great?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And we got to also be okay with closing chapters.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's a big one. That's a tough one. It's a
good one though it's good.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
It's not that hard really, it's it's it's block because yeah,
it's easy than I thought.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'm telling you, and I tell you what if you
go block and the.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Person is still calling you five six times, you should
be like, damns, a good thing.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I blocked that person. Have I given you a reason?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Absolutely, that's why you're not.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Blocked because I live on the next block. Hey, man,
close close the chapter. Man, it's a you know, opening
another one is not that hard and it's growth. Shaggy's
album is Lottery comes up May fifteenth, but looking lovely
as out now, yes, you got it, yo.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
You know how it goes right now, Elvis Duran in
the morning.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Yeah, by the way, he's syndicated, so it could be
anyone of y'all city not just.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
See one hundred in the morning. Thanks for explaining that.
You know what I'm saying. So make sure you turn
your car radio up.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
If your car's convertible, put the top down and cham
to this one. Brand new Shaggy and Robin Thick. Looking,
lovely ladies, this one is for you. Here you go,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Gun play right here, Shaggy