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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sadis Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Well, one of my favorite actors of all time is
now one of my favorite podcasters of all time. Kyle
McLaughlin is here from the what are We even doing? Podcast?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, Kyle, Elvi's nice to be back. How are you?
Thanks for coming back? Oh my god, I had no choice.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So iHeart is totally totally just taking advantage of you.
Today they're taking Kyle to sales meetings.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I've getten the whole treatment. Man, I'm gonna watch you.
You're my guide here. No, no, I'm a bad example.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
And then we have a special they call it a
fireside chat today at three o'clock in the iHeart Auditorium.
We have an auditorium.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yeah, I know, well that'll be fun and appropriate today
because it's freezing outside, so I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The fire Sorry about that. I mean, you live in
this in the sunny state of California. I do Los Angeles,
So is it good to come to the cold every
once in a while?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
I love it. Love we have a place here. We
still have a place here, Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
New York iss a magical place and it's in my heart.
So yeah, I love coming back and then going back
to the sun.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Time it is. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Hey, So the podcast has been going now for how
many months? We've been going for about two months? Okay,
pretty new.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How are you doing? Are you feeling about the podcast?
I love it?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I love it, you know what. It's a conversation and
I'm talking to people that I know very little about
and we're finding common ground, and that to me is
just It's been the most joyful thing I could possibly imagine,
and every every guest is just interesting and wonderful, and
I'm learning. In fact, I brought I brought my field notes.
I've been in the field.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh it says field, it says close field notes.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And I wanted to report back can see here, And
I wanted to report back on some of the things
I've been learning.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well what have you learned? I mean, top of mind?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, we'll talk about so some of these things that
are some of the phrases from the younger generation.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, shall I sholl me do a question. I think
we're pretty well looked down, very good? All right?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Good, Well, don't I don't, Nita, I see the I'm
gonna fail this miserable one. So anyway, there's a few
phrases that I've.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Who uses these phrases.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
So these are general gen Z gen Z young millennials
that you know, people that are in the creative social
particularly unsocial, but just the kids really and even my
son who's seventeen.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
So even before that, sure, this will be easy.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hold on, it's now time to quiz Elvis Tom McLaughlin's
gonna ask you me questions. But conversational phrases, they were
used with people much younger than me.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I him, you said a phrase there which I was like, oh,
that's a walking conversational phrases.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I don't know what the we're doing here. We go
go ahead, like what goes out there? I should know?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, there's there's a phrase. So the first one that
comes to mind is chopped chopped. Oh that's messed up,
not not.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Bad, actually pretty good guests, it's actually me not good looking,
ugly chop chopp right, yes, okay, but you know in
Italian it's fat ugly face.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Go ahead. The next one is unk u n C.
I'm assuming it's a part of another word something to do.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
It means you're old. Yeah, like yeah, none of us
in this one. We're unk right, so I just I
can't answer that because I am unk.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It's true, just as am I. This is a sad exercise.
You can be a hot un Oh, that's true.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
That's that's a phone call uncle.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I don't have that one on my list. I don't
know if we're making up stuff. We're so uncle, I'd
like to go.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
This is like Indian kids. Indian kids call everybody older
than them uncle.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
There you do you call your parents uncles?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I call my parents parents. If it's another Indian person
over the bit, I would call them.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Keep rolling.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I feel like I'm okay, there is there is? You
are in in my blank era? So in your what
era are you in?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Would you say you're in your blank era? This is
such a tailor swift thing, death, understandable, flaccid. Do you
guys know em and I? I don't care era. I
don't care era. I'm in my podcast era. Okay, so
we're all in an era. H're all in a moment.
(04:26):
You know something's happened. What about you? Gandhi?
Speaker 4 (04:28):
I like to think I'm in my growth era.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Very nice. I like that. That's positive brain rot. I
think you've heard of that brain rot. I have that.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I'm giving you example of that as we not true
group seven. I would say, we're all in group seven here,
that's oh, what's that group? You're in a cool kid group?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
How they get seven seven different versions of that one song?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Is that related to six seven? There's that to We
know what that is, we know it, we know it's nothing.
All right.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I think what we should do is put the fries
in the bag right now. That means put the fries
in the bag.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm thinking of fries and a fast food. It's time
to get out and go. Well, pretty close, tell me
to get to the wrap it up, let's go. I
think you did very well. I don't think I did
well at all. Okay, but this is a true clear
exercises as to what this podcast is about. I mean,
(05:28):
this exercises a part of what you do on this podcast. Yeah,
you know, it's just really a conversation. We started off
to the idea we're gonna ask questions, it's going to
be an interview. Really just turned into a conversation finding
common ground with some of them, some of my guests,
all of my guests, did you have to urge to
do this before this podcast was ever? Like what what
made you think? I think this could make a good podcast.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You know, I got into podcasts with with a one
called Varnum Town, which was a kind of a mystery
exploration of a small town in North Carolina that was
smuggling in drugs and was produced and it was done,
and I said, this podcast thing is kind of fun.
So I thought, how can I continue this? And I'm
meeting with my group. I have my team that I
(06:09):
work with, and we went through all sorts of different
ideas and we finally hit upon this idea just because
it made sense considering you know, I've been in things
that have stood the test of time, really, you know,
Sex and the City Desperate, How's Rise Twin Peaks? Of
course that the kids keep coming back to. My fan
base is pretty young because they love these shows. And
I said, well, why don't I sort of go into
that world a little bit, have conversations with with some
(06:29):
of these young creatives and just see what's happening there,
you know, see what makes them tick.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So what does your kid think of this?
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Because your kids, yeah, he just ignores it.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Quite He's seventeen years old. He should he should.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's exactly right. It's exactly what he should. Yeah, well,
some of these phrases, I've sort of you know, I've
listened to the door so I can hear it, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Ah hmm. I take notes, you know, like this kind
of thing. But he he just pretty much let me
do lets me do my own things.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He's my favorite podcast, or Gandhi's podcast for instance, it's
all about exploration. Yeah, you know, I want to find
out more a podcast. For instance, here on our show,
we have a mass audience. We have people of all
different ages, all different dudes, what psychography, whatever you want
to call the things. The thing is, in a podcast,
you can be as deep and narrow as you want
(07:16):
about any topic at all, exactly. And the best podcasts
are ones where the host is actually curious.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yes, and it continues to learn. You continue learning in life,
which is what I found. And that was the one
thing I didn't anticipate. I mean, I love a conversation,
I love talking with people. I'm great at a dinner party.
If you can invite me, I'm there.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
I'm really good. But this was this is going into another.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Realm kind of because we start with the idea of
it's all about the creative process, for me, So what
where do they start? What drives them? How do they
use social media in this new world? You know, those
are the questions, and those are the avenues that I'd
like to explore. And I just you know, I have
some questions that I come in with. Rarely do I
(07:58):
actually look at the card. I've got a couple starts,
and then I'm like, the conversation goes and they say something,
and I'm like, oh, let's let's go there a little
bit and tell me more about that.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
You know, that was Larry Kinge, you know, one of
the best, arguably best interviewers of all time. He would
come in to an interview with one question. Amazing, that's
and it would it's the conversation and then that you
start rallying back and forth and you're your podcast. Gandhi
is the same way. You have all these interesting people
on that. I know that you're fascinated with the science
and the whatever of these people, these guests, and you
(08:30):
bring them in because you want to know more.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, I want to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It's not because you know everything about them, No.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I want to learn about what they're doing. And I
think exactly what you just said, it really teaches you
the podcast or the art of conversation, because that's something
we could use every day because so many times we
come in I want to ask these questions and if
you stick to that, the conversation is weird.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, you have to just still with it doesn't make sense.
I agree.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So that's what we've that's what I've found, and it's
it's been wonderful.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I got to say.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I mean, I, as I said before, I'm learning so
much about these people. You know, I always was my
inspirations were always in the future, right, So I looked
at actors like Marlon Brando and James Dean, Montgomery Cliff.
These are my inspirations, right. I don't know what's happening
in the early generations. I don't know who are the
creatives right now.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So now you do it. Yeah, so this is my
attempt to sort of figure that out.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I mean, two months ago to today, how your knowledge
has changed.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, we'll look at that. We just did the quiz.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I think what's been really interesting about this too is,
like you said, all of your fans have kind of
been changing over time. You have young fans now too,
But in you exploring gen z gen Z has happened
upon you in this very big way too, and now
you're like a gen z Icon.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, there's definitely a curiosity, and I think it starts
with some of the work I've done that still stays around,
but as I've opened up and expressed an interest in
what they're doing. Yeah, they seem to be kind of
opening up and listen. It's this is all fun. We
have a really good time. This doesn't get too well.
It's occasionally get a little serious. Depends on where people
want to go. Really, they sort of guide. They sort
of guide the way, and I just sort of follow
(09:57):
along and ask the questions that I think, certainly things
that I want to know and things that maybe, you know,
the audience.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Is also interested in knowing. I think you should go
home and tell your son, Dad's a gen z Icon.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Even black velvet, almost blue velvet, I almost was cast
in black a different kind of movie. It was.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Okay, that was one of my favorite films of all time. Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh my god, I'm sitting next to guy who's one
of my favorite films. I don't know the name of
blue velvet. That was a beautiful beautiful work of art.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I agree with David Lynch, I mean amazing David Lynch,
Isabella Russelllini as you mentioned, Dennis Hopper, Lord Durham, of course,
Dean Stockwell and.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Me we were I'd work with David.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
On Dune and then so this was our second film together,
and Night and Day to the Dune experience.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Incredible blue velvet, I mean blue velvet. So we have
an event today, iHeart. I'm glad we could have this
gunn of behind the scenes meeting.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Behind They've given me, they've given me some questions today. Yes,
and I'm like, you know, I'll ask one and we'll
just start talking. What do you wear to this thing?
I mean, I can't wear this.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I look like O'Donnell might be a Lumberjacket's good, okay,
very specific Northwest, by the way, I was exactly, very nice,
very I won't wear any makeup. So are you going
with the jeans and sweater? Look?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, thank god, thank you, casual. It's it's you know,
it's Kyle.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Oh my god, you saved us. Well.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I just followed your lead, that's all. I don't wear
a suit. I'm not gonna wear oh really? Oh yeah,
I considered this work go but I was like, no that.
I don't think I need your final answer right now.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
This is it. Okay.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
I don't want to disappoint you guys too much, but
I don't think there's an actual fire in this fire.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Is prepared. That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
The podcast that Kyle brings us is what are we
even doing? His latest venture? Sure into the conversation space,
that's right, right, And of course we're very proud to
have you a part of the Elvis Dran podcast network.
You've got some great, great podcasts you're working, including Gandhi's
in there.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're teammates.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah good. This is a strong team. This is a
strong I feel good.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I think we're going all the way.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Kyle, thank you for coming in today.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Enjoy your time of freezing your corners off in New
York City, and I'll see you at the fireside chat
I think at three o'clock today.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
All right, here's what they said.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They said, you're gonna come on, talk to Kyle, have
a conversation, and then you'll leave. But he has to
stay and take photos for people. I went, Okay, how
bad I leave and you take the photos. They want
your photo. I'm like, okay, I'll walk out backwards while whistling.
Kyle now can say it's always a pleasure to have
youile o'clock than everyone appreciate it.