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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm talking football now. Goodness meet, so much happening around
the world and football at the moment with the world's
company everything. So let's bring in Joe Cercy from the
Tackled podcast. Our local rotation in football sees us talking
the men's side of things this weekend. Joe, morning to you.
So much going on. How's it going.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's going, It's going really well. And in terms of football,
it's going very busily. Busily the word it's just great.
There's just so much football on at the moment. I
feel like I'm almost overdosing, and I guess I need
to be careful that I don't let all the glamour
games that are being beamed from North America overtake some
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of the good action that's happening in locally.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Exactly, there's a feast of it. All Whites a week
ago now, since they were certainly humbled by Belgium. Joe,
what do you make of their three games in their
campaign overall?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Overall? To anyone that's criticized the All Whites, I sort
of say to them, well, what did you expect my comeback?
With the All Whites? As always? Well, they just don't
play in New Zealand just doesn't play enough competitive games
at that top tier in international men's football. Our ticket
to the World Cup is far too easy. We due
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respect to our neighbors in the Pacific Islands, playing teams
like Fiji, Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Tahiti, that's just not
enough preparation for when we go to the big arena
such as such as is a fee for World Cup?
For me? What I see the World Cup has been
important for is it is a shop window to sort
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of show the quality of some of our players. And
there were two players in particular who I thought put
their hands up and said, look, we do have a
lot of good talent in New Zealand. One is obviously
Elijah Just. You got three goals which is the highest
any New Zealander has scored at a FEEFA World Cup.
But also interestingly enough, Elijah Just plays for a Scottish
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club called Motherwill and his three goals that's joined equal
with the top a player who plays in the Scottish
league has ever scored at a fee for World Cup.
And Motherwell, I guess they're a well considered football club
in Scotland, have a nice tradition, have a nice background,
but from his performances, the bigger clubs in Scotland, which
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are the two Glasgow teams, Celtic and Rangers, are both
now showing interest in Elijah. Just the other player who
I thought had a good tournament was a center back
since Sermon. He of course was in the ones in
Phoenix a few years ago. He's been playing Major League
Soccer for the Portland Timbers and all the rumors suggest
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he might be on his way to Europe. And what
I feel is for all these individuals, if they can
move up the ranks, if they can be playing four
teams that play in the best leagues, in the best competitions,
that's great for New Zealand football because, like I said earlier,
the all Whites themselves don't play many competitive games as individuals.
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If they're playing big games less a good thing. And
I think from that point of view, the fact that
some players have been highlighted and are moving to bigger
leagues has been successful New Zealand football. And even our
old friend Tim Payne, with his five plus million followers
on Instagram, he's moving to Paraguay, which is huge. So
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I think there are so we say pieces of successful
New Zealand football from this tournament, despite the fact that
they got a drawer and then they had two pretty
big losses. They conceded ten goals. A lot of people
criticizing them and were criticizing their defensive play. But I
think if we're honest, if you look at the statistic,
especially territory and position, we did play a lot of
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games in our own third and we got my disappointment
maybe that we didn't see enough of our tacking players,
guys like Jesse Randall, Ben Old. We didn't really seem
that adventures when we did have the ball. We were
maybe a little bit too obvious in the way that
we were trying to play Chris Wood and from an
attacking perspective, even though we scored four goals, I think
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that was what we didn't show.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, No, you're not wrong there, Joe, not wrong at all.
The scores are the what sold it at the end
of the day for for the all whites fate man,
that is that right? Well, we made a couple of
predictions before the tournament, didn't we, and say where are
we still alive? Both of us?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah? And I think the whole who scored first is
a theme of today's segment. You've gone for England, and
what I'd say about England and what I like about
England is every task they have completed. And I know
a lot of people are sort of saying England they
haven't shown March, they haven't over impressed, but they're still
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there and they've done what they've needed to do. Like
you say, it was Congo who scored first, but England
came back and won two to one. And then I
went for Brazil and Brazil played Japan and it was
Japan who scored first and Brazil came back and won
two one. I think the difference between England and Brazil
at the moment is England has sort of played what
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they needed to do and have done what they needed
to do, whereas a lot of pundits the sort of same.
Brazil has shown improvement as the tournament's regressed. And because
I'm a lover of World Cup history, I need to
sort of talk about England's next game, which is against
Mexico been played at the very famous az Techas Stadium
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in Mexico City. England played an equally famous game way
back in the nineteen eighty six World Cup, where a
certain man, Diego Maradonna, featured prominently in that fixture known
for two goals. The first goal a beautiful cross lofted
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to Maradonna, who leaped up and was able to get
the ball passed the English goalkeeper Peter Shelton. But when
they showed the replays, he came off his hand and
nodded his head. That goal became known as the hand
of God. Four or five minutes later, Adam Dago Maradona,
he received the ball. I think it was an intercept.
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He received the ball on his own half. He ran
fifty to sixty meters, he bet four or five English players,
was able to drill the ball past Peter Shelton, the
English goalkeeper, and that goal became known as the goal
of the century. So England returned to that fable stadium
and hopefully looking for a better result than that two
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zero loss they incurred in nineteen eighty six against Argentina.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah amazing what history can bring back, isn't it right?
Let's talk local football, Joe and the Central League. Aside
from one catch up game. I has the week off today,
of course, because we're into the knockout competitions for the
men that's the Chatham Cup. But bring us up to
speed on the Central League before we talk the knockout stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, indeed, So last weekend it turned out to be.
Last weekend was round twelve and it turned out to
be a very big Sunday. There were two results posted
on the Sunday. They were both played outside the Capitol.
They both played outside Wellington. The first result came at
Bluewater Stadium in Napier where it was Olympic who scored
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first and they were up two to one at halftime
against the whole team Napier City Rovers, embraced by their
young attacking player Luke Stoop, put them in good stead,
in a good position, but it was Napier City Rovers
would come back with two second half goals of their own,
the winner scored by Sam Lack, He's another young player.
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A Hawk's bay lad was scored in the eighty ninth
minute and ensured the home team would win three to
two and essential points vital points that keep or took
Naper City Rovers to the top of the table. Bit
of a two horse race. Now with that loss, I
feel Olympic the down three points. So we've got Napier
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and Mirima. They're both on twenty nine points. They are
identical in terms of the fact that they've won nine,
drawn to lost one. The difference between Napier and Mirrimar
is goal difference. Napier is on plus twenty one, miriamas
on plus nineteen. We then gave from the East Coast
to the West Coast on the same Sunday and West
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we're taking on FC Western, so as a bat of
the Western teams and Corle Carr, the American scored the
first goal in the first half that takes him to
seven goals in the season. He currently leads the Central
League Golden Boot competition with seven goals in total. But
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FC Western with Leo Elder would replace in the second
half crucial point for FC Western, that sort of that's
now they've had a win and I've had a drawer.
But I feel for Western Suburbs that might end their
competitive run for a place in the National League later
this year. They've now sunk to be below the top
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three teams. And when I look at it now and
all things being equal, and the top teams continue beating
the main group, which all year, Adam I've been calling
the paloton. We've seen the top four teams achieving good
results against the bottom six teams. Everything now points to
a very big game on Round seventeen, Sunday, twenty third August,
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where Mirramar will travel up to the Hawk's Bay to
take on Napier at Bluewater Stadium. Mirramar, of course, are
the only team to have been in napis So City
Rovers thus far in the Central League competition. And like
you say, we've got to catch up game. The one
Central League fixture being played day it is the Phoenix
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Reserves hosting FC Western. This game has been deferred from
round one and back right back to the start of
essential their competition this season. FC Western unfortunately one of
their leading administrators passed away, so they didn't play on
the opening weekend. This is a catch up game between
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those two teams.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Great, all right, we look forward to that one this afternoon.
And a couple of those teams you mentioned there, naper
City Rovers, Mirrimar Rangers, they're among the action of the
latest rounds of the Chatham Cup. Joe and yeah, give
run us through what you're looking out for in these
two games being played in our region this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, they are the Giants some day, Napier City Rovers
and Mirmar Rangers. You're right on the You're right on
track there, Adam of that comment. We look at this
ficture Patony playing naper City Rovers at Memorial Park and
Patoni you have to go way back to nineteen forty
nine last time Patoni won the Chatham Cup. They've actually
won at three times in their history. Whereas for Miramar
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it's more recent memories. It's twenty nineteen and playing that
day in the final, it was a certain Bill Robertson
who is now the coach of the Napile City Ravers.
He was part of the team that won the Chatham
Cup in twenty nineteen. It was played against Melville United
and interestingly enough, it was Melville United who scored first.
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They were up one now in the second half, however,
Melville United had a player red carded, which allowed Napier
City Rovers to achieve a historic three to win and
claimed the last of their five Channam Cup successes or victories.
So Murma, sorry, Napier City Ravers have a good record
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in the Channam Cup. I know they're looking at this
year to can continue that run. Although the only really
downside for them is they openly admit they don't like
playing on artificial turf. They have played Patony this season
at Memorial Park and that was a one nil game.
It was very closely contested. Patony did very well to
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limit Napier's attacking powers. But I think Napier will take this.
I think Patani will put on a stoic display, but
I'm expecting Napier to take this all right.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And then also on a turf, Island Bay United are
hosting Mirramar Rangers.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, Murramou Rangers certainly no strangers to this particular turf.
They've played getting to this round, They've achieved a very
big two to one win against Olympic, the other home
team at Wayfield Park, and they also beat west TONL
so they've shall we say, beaten two of the leaders
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in this year Central League competition. So in some ways,
due respect to Ireland Bay, this is maybe the easiest
Chatham Cup tie on paper that they've faced. Ireland Bay
come into this having achieved wins at midweek win under
Lights three to two against the Phoenix Reserves and also
three to two win against Stop Out. Again, I've got
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to go for the team with the record, the team
with the wins this season, and I think Miramar Rangers
will progress to the next round. And just then on
another note, Adam, obviously Hooever wins these two ties, they
then go into a national pool, so the game goes
from a localized competition to a national pool. In the
future rounds of the Chantam Cup.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Here always a treat seeing what that throws up when
the rest of the country is involved in the draw
as well. And in the Women's Kate Shepherd Cup, Joe,
I know you'll be keeping an eye on this one
featuring the two remaining Wellington teams tomorrow at the quarterfinal stage.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, it is a very big game because it's between
Crory Waterside and the Wellington Phoenix Reserves. Because Corey water
Side is put on phenomenal running results in their Central League.
They are coming into this fixture having beaten Victoria University
the students for one and also been in Patoni six
to one, which is an incredible result giving that Patoni
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currently lead the Central Women's Central League. On the other side,
the Wellington Phoenix Reserves, it's always interesting to see who
they play in the Channel Cup because obviously you get
a more of a representative mix of who their B
team is playing compared to who plays in the Central League.
They beat Wellington United on penalties and then they beat
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Mermar Fournelle. I think the Phoenix reserves the women's team,
they'll be looking to make it back to a Kate
Shepherd Cup final, so I'm thinking that the home team
at Fraser Park will take this.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Perfect Joe, great to catch up as always, enjoy your
weekend on the football fields of Wellington, but also on
the TV mate from North America. Great to catch up
and we'll do it all again in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah. Always good having a chat Adam. And like you say,
there are some brilliant football being shown on our TV's.
Being from North America, don't neglect in the local game
the players and administrators, etcetera. Would still love to see
the supporters there on our fields.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
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