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August 9, 2024 • 12 mins

Tracey caught up with Iron Maidens Steve Harris ahead of the Maiden and British Lion gigs next month

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Bold a sides podcast The Stories behind Just Great Rock.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Firstly, I just want to say congratulations on the winning
last weekend, your daughter marrying Ronnie Woodson. That is a
real coming together of Rocks royal families. That must have
been a fun winning.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yeah, it was good. Yeah, it went all went very
well because I got a bit slagging off for wear
and dodgy suit, but that's all right. I don't wear
normally wear suits any you don't really matter. I had
a bit of ribbon about it, especially through some of
remates and some other people as well, so I thought
it was a good.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Fun really looked amazing. Well, obviously we're speaking to you
today because you're coming down with Iron Maiden, but also
your other band, British Lion, going to be playing their
first New Zealand and Australian gigs. Congratulations on getting British
Lion to the other side of the world.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, it was a great opportunity to come there and
play a few shows. You know, the lads had never
been there before, going there the first time with this band,
so playing clubs I've never done before, so it'd be great.
I'm really looking forward with it.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
What's it like going from a pub gig one night
to an arena gig twenty four hours later. I mean,
that seems like a pretty good life balance doing it
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's actually brilliant. Yeah, I really enjoy it both for
different reasons. But I actually really love being in clubs anyway.
You know, I sort of missed those days with Made
and so this is a double thing for me. It's
really brilliant. So I like seeing the white of people's
eyes and it's great, great fun.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
It's funny that you mentioned people's eyes, because it's not
an uncommon thing for artists to say when they do
go back to an intimate setting that when you're on
a massive stage, an arena or a stadium or even
a festival, that your fans are literally just one big,
heaving mass, aren't they like, you don't really have that
same connection.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, you do have a connection. But I'll give you
an example. We played in Portugal last week with British
Iron and it was a festival, a bike festival, and
so I had ramps in front of the bikes to garden,
so we were quite away from the audience and I've
already the crowd were great. I mean it was really good.
But the following night in Spain was a club gigs,
six or seven hundred people, and you know, it was

(02:10):
just great to be that close. So yeah, I do
miss that sometimes. And we built catwalks, we've made and
we've built catwalks out to get closer to the orders,
and then they just keep putting the barriers vera and
vera away, so we go back the square one again.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
And also, what I love about British Line is you
do offer meet and greens. What I think they're called
hangs with the band. What is it that your fans
most want to talk to you about when they meet
you face to face.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I don't know. They ask all different things, and some
of them just clam up, some of them don't know
what to say, and other one's stop talking and say.
You just get a different reaction out of different people, really,
but I like to try and just make sure that
they're pretty relaxed. We haven't been doing really too many
meeting weeks lately, and I probably won't have a chance
to do much on this tour because obviously I got
the meeting shows the next day, so I can't start

(02:55):
up all night talking to people. But but yeah, I mean,
where ever get a chance to have a boat with someone,
then I will do We did do it on some
earlier tours. It got a bit out of van actually
give examples in Italy, I don't know, four hundred and
fifty or something people at the gig, and the gig
was an hour and a half and then the signing
thing afterwards took three hours, so it was like double

(03:16):
the time with a gig. So I didn't want to
go off and leave the you know before sort of
finished everybody when we said we were going to do it,
so we sort of stopped doing it officially like that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
It's got to be a massive compliment, though, doesn't it
when people just want to meet you, Like, what a
great problem to have that people just want to be
in your prisons for a little while.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
It must be really nice. It's a nice problem. But
if you've got to travel to the next gig all
a lot with this particular case and made the next day,
you've got to be professional, make sure on the money
the next day. So I can't start all like doing
all that.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
But it is what it is, because there's a real
passion project for you. The spand isn't it. You are
very hands on with British Lion, Like you've done things
from like booking the gigs at the hotels to arranging things.
I mean you've seen at times you were almost the
tour manager of the spand well.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, really, yeah, you know, it's just trying to get
someone else to do it. It's well so experienced I
suppose that doing all that stuff. We did have a
tour on one tour and we've sort of got someone
who works out a bit here and there certain things,
but in generally are I did to know what to do,
so I just tend to do it yourself. It's just
quicker and easier.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Really, if you want a job done, well it's what
they say.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Do it, you mean someone else do it? To be honest,
it's take double the time if I've got to check
what's going on.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, And it's quite a different sounding band aid from
what you're doing made and like it's more mainstream you say,
sort of commercial rock with a seventy sound, which is
a really popular soundown in this part of the world.
Day we love our good mainstream commercial rock bangs. I
think you're going to do very well down here.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well, so be nice. I just I just hope people
turn up and give us a chance see what we
can do. I mean, I really think we're a good, strong,
live bang. We've got some really good songs. We give
one hundred percent and more. And so yeah, I just
hope people give it the chance to turn up and
check it out.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
My god, of course they will. Aside from being considered
one of rock's greatest space as Steve So, you play drums, guitars, keys,
you can produce backing vocals. Most impressively, you wrote some
of Maiden's greatest songs. So when everyone was sort of
being really wowed by Dave Grohl in the nineties, man,
you had already been doing that for years, hadn't you.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I mean I've I've been a prolific songwriter, so
throughout the years. I'm very lucky to say that I
can do that. It's just been kind of natural for
me to do that. Really, I don't really try and
analyze it, but I don't know how many songs written
really added them.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Mark, it's a lot incredibly talented. Honestly, the songs you
wrote are honestly all Maiden's best songs, and like Dave Groll.
You famously can't sit still. You've said that you like
to play maybe if you could four or five nights
a week, but obviously you can't expect your singer to
do that. So on your nights off when there are
no gigs, what do you like to do in your
downtime apart from football?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Well, it depends. I mean quite often I just might
sit in my room watch a bit of TV or
just being a computer. Lots of booking stuff for the
next British what stuff like that. But now I read
books a lot. I do like reading and stuff like that,
and a lot of photography. I meant lots of different
things really, so I never get bored.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
What kind of stuff do you really? Are you a
fiction guy? Are you like your rock bios or what
are you lean to?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I've written? I've read some biographies. I'm not massive in
the bigraries, but I've read a few and up here
and there, and I like the andre Agasi one was
really good. I thought that was good. And lately I've
been reading some crime thrillers. Guy I called him a
w Cragen and I just met him actually because he
came to a British Line gig in Carlisle. I didn't

(06:44):
really know much about him at all, but he left
the book for me and he got put on the
bus and I sort of didn't really sort of, you know,
he was all wrapped up and myself I didn't really
see it for a couple of weeks and then opened
it up and I read it and I really enjoyed it,
and I ended up I thought the best way of
paying back is I bought bought all these books, and
then I the following tour the following year, I invited him.

(07:04):
So then it time we played in Carlos and got
to meet him. Was a really really nice bloke and
really so yeah, I enjoy his books.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Must be really nice. When you're at the stage you're
at in your career where you probably can meet anyone
you want to meet, is there anyone out there that
you still really want to meet but haven't met.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
I'd like to meet Novak Djokovic because I just think
he's fantastic. But he's achieved and his dedication to his
sport and the way he keeps himself fit and all
that kind of stuff, and now he eats healthy and
all that that, all that totally appeals to me. I mean,
I'd definitely like to meet him.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, I'm going to bring you gift when I come
to your British Lion gig, because we are just giving
away this week on the radio station, the brand new
Novak Djokovic biography. It's called Searching for Novak, So I'm
going to put one aside and bring one for you
to read on that.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
On the plane, A nice one. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Speaking of planes and getting down here, do I assume
maid and still travel down on the ed Force one?
And if so, do British Lion catch a ride with you?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
No, we're not using it anymore Bruce the big planes
any because he's basically, well it's too old. We're all
too old a lot of things. But he can't really,
he's not allowed to fly the big planes anymore. So
I think he lost a bit of interested in doing
all that with his big thoughts. So we're not using it.
It's time around. But I mean, I wouldn't mix the

(08:22):
two anyway. I wouldn't have the British line God's chat
made and it sort of couldn't feel right really, so
they're left to slamm it.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Actually, it's interesting you say you would have mixed the two,
because I was going to ask you if they would
ever coome a time when British Lion would open for
Maiden or would two gigs and one might be too
hard on you.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
It wouldn't be too hard for me, actually, because I
actually played football, which is on days of Maiden shows
quite often and it actually fires me up, gets me going,
you know, adrenaline going and gets the blood going and whatever.
You he doesn't tie me out, some people would think,
But it wouldn't be the right thing to do, you know,
it just wouldn't feel right to do that. But playing
the day before is fine, but on the same day

(09:02):
or the same bill. That's why I've way at email festivals.
I'll played Richelne the day before or the day after
some in some cases, but usually the day before they
played the same day. Even if it was earlier on
in the day, you know, in a different tent or
something like that at the festival, still wouldn't feel right. Really,
I just don't want to mix the two.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I think it was your singer Richard that said once
that he had been writing in a limo with you.
It must have been around a Maiden to it or
google something, and fans were shaking the car and he said,
to see the other side of your life with Maiden,
like up close, like that was really quite intense for them.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, they've seen a fair bit of it because obviously
they've done the shows the day before and so quite
often they've been in tourn anyway, so they've come to
the Maiden shows or whatever in certain cities and stuff
like that, and they've seen the fan sort of maniait
we have with Made and yeah, I mean it's an
ee opener. It really is. Is quite an amazing thing, really,
and I mean, if the fans I suppose it, well,

(09:57):
probably the craziest place is probably South America. So it's
pretty crazy down there in a nice way. So but
they're pretty intense.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Oh wait till you get here. We're amping for it.
We're so excited. Do you play the same bass in
both bands or do you travel with like different instruments?
Is it totally different to a party.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
The same maker base. It's a base sometimes I might
use as a backup for the Maiden shows. I have
used the same base sometimes, but usually I just choose
a different one because just logistics of being in one
place and getting the gear sett in another place.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
I just used a different one of course, and obviously
made in schedule isn't as relentless these days as it
has been, more quality than quantity, which provides you with
this luxury of playing with the second band. Because there
was a time, wasn't there where you didn't like the
thought of yourself or even any of your band members
having a second band. Is that because you sort of
felt it was disloyal or you just didn't think that
a band member.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Maybe just like yeah, but to a certainly agree, I suppose,
but to be honest with it just wouldn't have been time. Yeah,
And there wasn't there was any days off with travel days.
There weren't really days off. That's what the sort of
biggest sort of ing joke really with touring is that
it's a day off, or it's actually not a day off.
If you're traveling from one place to another, it's not
an actual proper day off, it's a travel day. So
now these days we do have a travel day, then

(11:09):
there's a day off the next day. That gives me
the opportunity to play with British Line on the four
or four day off. But sometimes I just cram stuff in.
You know, people think I overdo it, but whatever, but
I've really enjoyed it. And I suppose I shouldn't talk
too soon, but I think it's going to be good,
and I think, hopefully a bit, I'll be fine. I mean,
I don't people worry and go, oh, is he going
to tie himself out for the maiden gigs? No, not

(11:31):
at all. It's a totally different thing. And you know,
it fires me up with anything else like playing the football. Yeah,
I'll just get QUI up and I don't. It doesn't
tie me out. It's the opposite. A bit more tired
of I'm sitting around doing nothing.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
If you are sitting around, are you writing for a
new British Line album? It's been what coming up four years?
We really want to hear something that will love the Burning.
The Burning is great.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
We've got a couple of new songs that we've been
doing in a set recently, and we've got lots of
other material that we've we've sort of been working on
but the other ideas. But the two that we've doing
a set have been going down really well and we'll
be doing those on the upcoming shows.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
I can't wait obviously, and you've got fifty years of
Maiden next year as well. I know you're not a
believer in slowing down as you get older. Is the
big plans for the fiftieth anniversary next year?

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, we are is, but I can't thank too much
about it really at this point. Yeah, I've got to
keeping about it. I was a bit of grief and
the Rods.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Manager so exciting. Oh, Steve, it's such a treat to
talk to you, British Lion and be playing the Brewing
Company Sunday, September the fifteenth, Iron Maid in the following night.
Completely sold out, you can still pick up tickets for
British Lion, Steve Harris. What an honor to talk to
one of the greatest of all time. We look forward
to seeing you here in New Zealand very soon.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yes, good, Thank you so much. Tray too, thanks a lot,
appreciate you, sir.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
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