One of Newstalk ZB's most familiar voices has been recognised in the King's Birthday Honours, two decades after first being sounded out.
Barry Soper's been named an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for services to journalism, recognising 43 years in the parliamentary press gallery.
He says he considered the honour 20 years ago while serving as political editor, on the advice of senior colleagues.
"And asked their opinion on whether it would be seen, or I could be seen as politically biased - and I think the conclusion was: that was a possibility. So I didn't want to compromise my independence."
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks be follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Barry Soaper is the voice that has grace airwaves for decades,
so recognizable today he's received a long overdue recognition. He's
been made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.
And how wonderful is that? And Barry Soper oh n
z M joins me, Now, good on it to you, Barry.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good morning to you and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Andrew, you actually turned this on It down twenty years
ago because you were still fully active as a political journalist.
So did you think that the boat had sailed?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hah No, not at all. You know.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
The problem is, I think, particularly somedenly like me, in
a political commentary role, it's difficult to try always fight
your bias that you're claim to be left wing, you
claim to be right wing, and if an honor comes
on top of that, then people draw conclusions, generally the
(01:06):
wrong conclusions, because it's people outside of the political arena
that actually nominate people for honors. And in my case
it was this one was across the spectrum, so I
felt more comfortable than I did the past.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, but who nominated you twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, you'd never named somebody who nominated to you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But I was sounded out and talked to about it,
and I took advice and spoke to some of my
senior colleagues and you know, asked their opinion on whether
it would be seen or I could be seen as
being politically biased, and I think the conclusion was that
was a possibility, so I didn't want to compromise my independence.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Good man, And now you've got it, and that's a
great thing. And at this point, are you the last
one of all your friends and colleagues to get a
gone a ha ha.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, who knows, Andrew? I mean, you're sitting behind that microphone.
You never know. You know. It's one of those things
that comes out of the blue.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And you know, I'm awfully grateful for it and on it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
To be thought of in this way. It really is.
And you were talking about the boy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
From Lumbsdon, while I'm a boy from Gore and when
I was growing up there never would have thought that
this sort of thing could possibly ever happen to me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And the thing is that when you read your book
also that this was back in the day when there
was no real journalism training, not the three year the
Greek courses that we have right now. So you were
a copper for a while, but you are a self
made man.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, thank you, Andrew. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In my day when I began in journalism was the
year that man landed on the Moon nineteen sixty nine.
And I'd done a fairly brief stint, I've got to
say at Police College. I felt that that sort of
authority wasn't for me and I was simply ran into
somebody on Irk Street and Gore and I wasn't irked
(03:00):
by it because I ended up as a result of
becoming a journalist because he was the Gore correspondent for
the Southland Times and that's where I started what has
been a lifelong career.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And what a big eighteen months. I see that Shane
Curry in his article in the paper, he revealed his
headline was a baby, your book and now a badge
of honor haha. And when he interviewed you, you were
walking mackay as well. So what is it about twenty
twenty six it's been so good for Barry Soper.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, it's incredible, you know what. I think.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, this is an election year, and the last
election year I was very very second hospital, and three
years on I would not have thought that I'd be
in the position that I am today.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But you know that the book thing.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
People had been honored me, and particularly HarperCollins for a
number of years.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
To write a book.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Finally I got around to it was no mean feet,
given that all my notes have been destroyed, destroyed by
an over enthusiastic journalist cleaning up the office a number
of years ago. But nevertheless it's come to fruition and
I'm really pleased that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
People are enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I get messages day after day saying that the insight
into what prime ministers I really like.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
The sort of people that they are. They're just you
and me. They just happened to be in a situation.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think people loving the gossip about the higher mating
and that you can tell stories about Nelson Mattendla and
Desmond Tutu and I We'll just pop across the border
of Botswana and just have a little bit of a
chinwar and all this sort of thing. And these these
prove that the high and mighty are just normal people
and all you have to do is phone them and
talk to them like normal people.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
That's exactly right, Andrew, And unfortunately you can't quite do
it in the same way today. But you know that
that time that I went to the telephone booth and
Johannesburg looked up the telephone book, found the right of
the Reverend Desmond Tutu's number, rang them up and said, look,
I'm a journalist from New Zealand. Can I come out
(05:05):
and see you? And there I was Elton saw interviewing
Desmond Tootle, and it was a great honor and of
course an even greater on a few years down the
track meeting and getting to know to an extent the
wonderful man Nelson Mandela.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We'll talk more about journalism and the changing face of
journalism in a few moments time, but I have to
ask a question on behalf of the Texters who ask
did you get breakfast in bed this morning?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Ha ha.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
No, the routine continued as it's always continued. The baby
wakes up, I get the baby, and then I go
and prepare breakfast.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We've had a lovely breakfast, as we do most morning's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Andrew, yes, I know, and I also see you around
the place walking the kids, and that is great. And
in fact I wanted to say to you for a while,
is the walking of Eggy that actually gave you the
indication that you might have to do something about your
heart back in the day because you're getting a bit
short of breath. So walking Iggy walking baby saves your life.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh absolutely. And a persistent wife about telling me to
go to the doctor. And it's a warning to all men,
take notice of your wives.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Gosh, what a surprise is your wife persistent? I would
never have picked that.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I was heathered Barry.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I first met you back in the nineties at the
Independent Radio News Network. You were the political editor in Wellington.
I was running a news talk station in Auckland. Iran
was run by Ed Taylor and then Lorna Riley and
then the former Radio new Zealand went and bought our company,
Pro Media, which meant that you had to compete with
Richard Griffin for the role of political editor. It was
sort of like a political editor Hunger Games. Was you won?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Ha ha? You won it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And how was it then? And was winning that little
battle actually the making of Barry soaper because you ended
our political editor of News TALKSIRB years.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, No, in fairness to my dear friend Richard Griffin,
who will probably be tuned in down on the Nelson region,
it wasn't a competition between him and I.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In fact, Radio and New Zealand had sold.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
The News Talks AB and as a result he couldn't
work on them because they were a commercial station. I
was working in commercial radio, so it was a natural
transition that I went.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Over thirty years ago this year, funnily.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Enough, to Newstalk ZB and have been talking on this
wonderful radio networker since then.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Certainly was the making of you? The making of Barry
so the legend when did you decide that politics was
your round of choice?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Well, you know, it's the curious thing, isn't it, Andrew,
that when you're much younger, and I'm sure a lot
of young people, if they listen listening into this, they'll
go into a job, think about it and think, ah,
I'll do it for a couple of years and then
I'll move on. Well, I was fortunate enough to come
into the Gallery as political editor back in nineteen eighty,
(07:56):
so I was young to have that job. But it
wasn't only that the pay was reasonable, But it wasn't
only that. It was the fact that politics tends to
get into your blunt and it certainly did mine, and
was much the political personalities as it was the policies.
And that's why I've written this book about prime ministers
(08:16):
because you know, like I said earlier, Andrew, they are
simply like.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You and I.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
There's a group of people that say they'd like them
to lead the party, and then they go on to
lead the party, and some are lucky enough or unlucky
enough to become the prime minister and live then their
lives in a goldfish pole with fishermen such as myself
throwing dayton to try and see if I'll take it
and get a good yarn.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, that's got your politics. That's got your reporting. People
people complain about got your reporting. But it's just putting
a question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, generally yes it is.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And I think though in fairness, when you arrange to
have an interview with somebody, they should know the topic
that you're going to discuss, particularly if you're the prime minister,
because you're meant to be across all topics, but you
don't have a monopoly on no, and it means that
you have to do a bit of reading before any interview.
(09:12):
And I think the type of gotcha politics that I
don't like is setting somebody up, arranging to do an
interview with them and then introduce something out of the blue.
It's okay on occasion, but as a rule they should
know what they're able to address and what they feel
confident about addressing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I wonder if John Campbell and Helen Clarke are listening
to this interview along with Richard Griffin. But that would
be interesting to see, wouldn't it now?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Generally that I was thinking exactly that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now, just as you replaced Richard Griffin, do you obviously
have moved on somewhat. You're now a correspondent as opposed
to the editor. Do you see a new generation of
political journalists rising and are they any good?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh? Yes, I do.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There are some very good ones, I think in the
making at the moment, and we have a few in
our own office and newsbooks. They'd be in Parliament, and
you know, I think the main I think aspect of
being a good journalist is being enthusiastic and enjoy what
you're doing. That's half the battle and if you understand
(10:19):
the topic that you're out there to cover.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Then that's even better.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And you know, if you do enjoy it as much
as I did, then it grows on you and becomes
part of you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You can tell that's what happened to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, you can tell that you enjoyed it because you
never burnt out because of it, which is not You
can't really say that about Paddy or Duncan, who write
extensively about being burnt out by the process. But you
didn't get burnt out because you loved it and you
did it with honor.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, you know you. I think it's like any job,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Andrew that if you enjoy what you're doing day by
day turning up to work. Those of us who are
fortunate enough to have work, and there are a lot
that will be listening at the moment that don't.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I always say to them.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Never lose hope, because we live in I think, the
best country in the world, away from all the crap
around the rest of the world, and we should be
mooking and making the best of it because we're extraordinarily lucky.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We're lucky.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Sis.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He'll have you, But you have decrease your hours working
for us. Are we going to have to carry you
out in a box at the end of the day
you're going to wink? Or are you actually going to
slow down and spend some time with the kids?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh? And you w well, I.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Spend a lot of time with the kids now and
my dear wife. So you know, it's like balancing your life.
And there'll be a lot of parents tuned in to
know that that's not an away easy task. And you
asked me a question earlier, did I get breakfast in bed? Well,
you imagine having breakfast in bed with an eighteen month
old and a four year old jumping.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Up and down on it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You can imagine that you wouldn't get much to eat,
but the walls and the blankets would be well fed.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well said Jenny. Wants to know if your book will
be available on audio and if you're going to read it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, you know that's a thing that I have discussed
with half a columns because a lot of people have
asked that, Jenny. And you know, I may well tickle
the old vocal chords and put voice to the book.
It's would take some time, I would imagine, and the
problem is for me, when I'm sort of reading the book,
I'll see a story and I want to expand on
(12:30):
that story.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So, you know, so it may not be a literal
read of the book. That's the only problem.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right, Well, Barry, congratulations. Can I also say one
of the great things about you, not only your insight,
not only your knowledge, and not only your work ethic,
has been, in fact, the voice which is distinctive and
people like to listen to it. It's ams. Really, you
have to say, it's a very great voice, even though
you always are thinking that Barry's voices on the verge
(12:58):
of completely petering up.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I know. I mean I was called gravel at school,
so it's been with me for all my life.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Sam is telling me I have to wind up the interview,
which I don't want to, but I have to. So anyway,
very best of love to the whole family. Congratulations for
your honor.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And thank you for your lovely words. Andrew.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Barry Soaper is the voice that has grace airwaves for decades,
so recognizable today he's received a long overdue recognition. He's
been made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.
And how wonderful is that? And Barry Soper oh n
z M joins me, Now, good on it to you, Barry.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Good morning to you and the listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Andrew, you actually turned this on It down twenty years
ago because you were still fully active as a political journalist.
So did you think that the boat had sailed?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hah No, not at all. You know.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
The problem is, I think, particularly somedenly like me, in
a political commentary role, it's difficult to try always fight
your bias that you're claim to be left wing, you
claim to be right wing, and if an honor comes
on top of that, then people draw conclusions, generally the
(01:06):
wrong conclusions, because it's people outside of the political arena
that actually nominate people for honors. And in my case
it was this one was across the spectrum, so I
felt more comfortable than I did the past.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, but who nominated you twenty years ago?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Well, you'd never named somebody who nominated to you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But I was sounded out and talked to about it,
and I took advice and spoke to some of my
senior colleagues and you know, asked their opinion on whether
it would be seen or I could be seen as
being politically biased, and I think the conclusion was that
was a possibility, so I didn't want to compromise my independence.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Good man, And now you've got it, and that's a
great thing. And at this point, are you the last
one of all your friends and colleagues to get a
gone a ha ha.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, who knows, Andrew? I mean, you're sitting behind that microphone.
You never know. You know. It's one of those things
that comes out of the blue.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And you know, I'm awfully grateful for it and on it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
To be thought of in this way. It really is.
And you were talking about the boy.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
From Lumbsdon, while I'm a boy from Gore and when
I was growing up there never would have thought that
this sort of thing could possibly ever happen to me.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And the thing is that when you read your book
also that this was back in the day when there
was no real journalism training, not the three year the
Greek courses that we have right now. So you were
a copper for a while, but you are a self
made man.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, thank you, Andrew. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
In my day when I began in journalism was the
year that man landed on the Moon nineteen sixty nine.
And I'd done a fairly brief stint, I've got to
say at Police College. I felt that that sort of
authority wasn't for me and I was simply ran into
somebody on Irk Street and Gore and I wasn't irked
(03:00):
by it because I ended up as a result of
becoming a journalist because he was the Gore correspondent for
the Southland Times and that's where I started what has
been a lifelong career.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And what a big eighteen months. I see that Shane
Curry in his article in the paper, he revealed his
headline was a baby, your book and now a badge
of honor haha. And when he interviewed you, you were
walking mackay as well. So what is it about twenty
twenty six it's been so good for Barry Soper.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well, it's incredible, you know what. I think.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, this is an election year, and the last
election year I was very very second hospital, and three
years on I would not have thought that I'd be
in the position that I am today.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
But you know that the book thing.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
People had been honored me, and particularly HarperCollins for a
number of years.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
To write a book.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Finally I got around to it was no mean feet,
given that all my notes have been destroyed, destroyed by
an over enthusiastic journalist cleaning up the office a number
of years ago. But nevertheless it's come to fruition and
I'm really pleased that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
People are enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I get messages day after day saying that the insight
into what prime ministers I really like.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
The sort of people that they are. They're just you
and me. They just happened to be in a situation.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I think people loving the gossip about the higher mating
and that you can tell stories about Nelson Mattendla and
Desmond Tutu and I We'll just pop across the border
of Botswana and just have a little bit of a
chinwar and all this sort of thing. And these these
prove that the high and mighty are just normal people
and all you have to do is phone them and
talk to them like normal people.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
That's exactly right, Andrew, And unfortunately you can't quite do
it in the same way today. But you know that
that time that I went to the telephone booth and
Johannesburg looked up the telephone book, found the right of
the Reverend Desmond Tutu's number, rang them up and said, look,
I'm a journalist from New Zealand. Can I come out
(05:05):
and see you? And there I was Elton saw interviewing
Desmond Tootle, and it was a great honor and of
course an even greater on a few years down the
track meeting and getting to know to an extent the
wonderful man Nelson Mandela.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We'll talk more about journalism and the changing face of
journalism in a few moments time, but I have to
ask a question on behalf of the Texters who ask
did you get breakfast in bed this morning?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Ha ha.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
No, the routine continued as it's always continued. The baby
wakes up, I get the baby, and then I go
and prepare breakfast.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
We've had a lovely breakfast, as we do most morning's.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Andrew, yes, I know, and I also see you around
the place walking the kids, and that is great. And
in fact I wanted to say to you for a while,
is the walking of Eggy that actually gave you the
indication that you might have to do something about your
heart back in the day because you're getting a bit
short of breath. So walking Iggy walking baby saves your life.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh absolutely. And a persistent wife about telling me to
go to the doctor. And it's a warning to all men,
take notice of your wives.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Gosh, what a surprise is your wife persistent? I would
never have picked that.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I was heathered Barry.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I first met you back in the nineties at the
Independent Radio News Network. You were the political editor in Wellington.
I was running a news talk station in Auckland. Iran
was run by Ed Taylor and then Lorna Riley and
then the former Radio new Zealand went and bought our company,
Pro Media, which meant that you had to compete with
Richard Griffin for the role of political editor. It was
sort of like a political editor Hunger Games. Was you won?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Ha ha? You won it?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And how was it then? And was winning that little
battle actually the making of Barry soaper because you ended
our political editor of News TALKSIRB years.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, No, in fairness to my dear friend Richard Griffin,
who will probably be tuned in down on the Nelson region,
it wasn't a competition between him and I.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
In fact, Radio and New Zealand had sold.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
The News Talks AB and as a result he couldn't
work on them because they were a commercial station. I
was working in commercial radio, so it was a natural
transition that I went.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Over thirty years ago this year, funnily.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Enough, to Newstalk ZB and have been talking on this
wonderful radio networker since then.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Certainly was the making of you? The making of Barry
so the legend when did you decide that politics was
your round of choice?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Well, you know, it's the curious thing, isn't it, Andrew,
that when you're much younger, and I'm sure a lot
of young people, if they listen listening into this, they'll
go into a job, think about it and think, ah,
I'll do it for a couple of years and then
I'll move on. Well, I was fortunate enough to come
into the Gallery as political editor back in nineteen eighty,
(07:56):
so I was young to have that job. But it
wasn't only that the pay was reasonable, But it wasn't
only that. It was the fact that politics tends to
get into your blunt and it certainly did mine, and
was much the political personalities as it was the policies.
And that's why I've written this book about prime ministers
(08:16):
because you know, like I said earlier, Andrew, they are
simply like.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You and I.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
There's a group of people that say they'd like them
to lead the party, and then they go on to
lead the party, and some are lucky enough or unlucky
enough to become the prime minister and live then their
lives in a goldfish pole with fishermen such as myself
throwing dayton to try and see if I'll take it
and get a good yarn.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Well, that's got your politics. That's got your reporting. People
people complain about got your reporting. But it's just putting
a question, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Well, generally yes it is.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
And I think though in fairness, when you arrange to
have an interview with somebody, they should know the topic
that you're going to discuss, particularly if you're the prime minister,
because you're meant to be across all topics, but you
don't have a monopoly on no, and it means that
you have to do a bit of reading before any interview.
(09:12):
And I think the type of gotcha politics that I
don't like is setting somebody up, arranging to do an
interview with them and then introduce something out of the blue.
It's okay on occasion, but as a rule they should
know what they're able to address and what they feel
confident about addressing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I wonder if John Campbell and Helen Clarke are listening
to this interview along with Richard Griffin. But that would
be interesting to see, wouldn't it now?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Generally that I was thinking exactly that.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now, just as you replaced Richard Griffin, do you obviously
have moved on somewhat. You're now a correspondent as opposed
to the editor. Do you see a new generation of
political journalists rising and are they any good?
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Oh? Yes, I do.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
There are some very good ones, I think in the
making at the moment, and we have a few in
our own office and newsbooks. They'd be in Parliament, and
you know, I think the main I think aspect of
being a good journalist is being enthusiastic and enjoy what
you're doing. That's half the battle and if you understand
(10:19):
the topic that you're out there to cover.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Then that's even better.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And you know, if you do enjoy it as much
as I did, then it grows on you and becomes
part of you.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You can tell that's what happened to me. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, you can tell that you enjoyed it because you
never burnt out because of it, which is not You
can't really say that about Paddy or Duncan, who write
extensively about being burnt out by the process. But you
didn't get burnt out because you loved it and you
did it with honor.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, you know you. I think it's like any job,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Andrew that if you enjoy what you're doing day by
day turning up to work. Those of us who are
fortunate enough to have work, and there are a lot
that will be listening at the moment that don't.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I always say to them.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Never lose hope, because we live in I think, the
best country in the world, away from all the crap
around the rest of the world, and we should be
mooking and making the best of it because we're extraordinarily lucky.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
We're lucky.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Sis.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
He'll have you, But you have decrease your hours working
for us. Are we going to have to carry you
out in a box at the end of the day
you're going to wink? Or are you actually going to
slow down and spend some time with the kids?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Oh? And you w well, I.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Spend a lot of time with the kids now and
my dear wife. So you know, it's like balancing your life.
And there'll be a lot of parents tuned in to
know that that's not an away easy task. And you
asked me a question earlier, did I get breakfast in bed? Well,
you imagine having breakfast in bed with an eighteen month
old and a four year old jumping.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Up and down on it.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You can imagine that you wouldn't get much to eat,
but the walls and the blankets would be well fed.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well said Jenny. Wants to know if your book will
be available on audio and if you're going to read it.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, you know that's a thing that I have discussed
with half a columns because a lot of people have
asked that, Jenny. And you know, I may well tickle
the old vocal chords and put voice to the book.
It's would take some time, I would imagine, and the
problem is for me, when I'm sort of reading the book,
I'll see a story and I want to expand on
(12:30):
that story.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
So, you know, so it may not be a literal
read of the book. That's the only problem.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right, Well, Barry, congratulations. Can I also say one
of the great things about you, not only your insight,
not only your knowledge, and not only your work ethic,
has been, in fact, the voice which is distinctive and
people like to listen to it. It's ams. Really, you
have to say, it's a very great voice, even though
you always are thinking that Barry's voices on the verge
(12:58):
of completely petering up.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I know. I mean I was called gravel at school,
so it's been with me for all my life.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
So there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Sam is telling me I have to wind up the interview,
which I don't want to, but I have to. So anyway,
very best of love to the whole family. Congratulations for
your honor.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And thank you for your lovely words. Andrew.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
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