April 24, 2025 • 4 mins
The Government is taking action on calls made from those in the trade industry.
Experts will now be able to run things in their own way as an overhaul of apprenticeships is taking shape.
An independent, industry-led model will be introduced early next year.
Vocational Education Minister Penny Simmons joins Tim Beveridge.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Government appears to have answered calls from those in the
trade industry. An overhaul of apprenticeships and in training are
on the way, effectively letting experts run things their own way.
A new independent industry lead model will be introduced early
next year, taking responsibility awale from the failed to perking
a polytechnic kind of trouble, saying that to perking of Polytechnic,
there we go. Vocational Education Minister Penny Simmons joins me.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So industries have been crying out for this, haven't they?
Why was the system not working?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Lookis industry have been crying out for it, and it's
been about getting industry back in the driver's seat. So
it wasn't working because industry voice had been taken away.
The old industry training organizations had been centralized into the
Combined Polytechnics Entity Pooking, which took industry away from being
(01:11):
able to control the sort of training that went on
for their apprentices.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
How big a job is the one you've got ahead
of you?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Then, look, it's quite big. It's taken quite a long time,
which has been frustrating for me and frustrating for industry.
But we're getting now to the sharp end of it
and we're looking at having a lot of things set
up by one January next year. So certainly the Industry
Skills Boards will be set up by one January next year.
(01:39):
The work based learning units, the old itos, they will
come out of the Taputina and they will sit for
a transition period with the Industry Skills Boards while industry
decides whether they want to have a private training provider
and industry training provider, and they can then set up
the private training provider if they wish to.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There's criticism that the plan lacks detailents a lot to
get done by January. What's your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Look, No, there is a lot of d tail behind it,
and it's about getting the legislation in place. So the
legislation will be introduced to the House soon that will
certainly have all the detail in it, and then there'll
be the period of the Select Committee where people will
be able to have a say in if they see
some of the detail that needs changed.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, have some sectors been putting their plans together already.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, certainly they have. Yes, I think there will be
some industries that will be ready straight away to set
up a private training provider as soon as they're able
to in the beginning of next year, So poking is.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Out of the picture. Now, are you confident that most importantly,
new apprentices are going to get the skills they need.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yes, Look, taputing will be in the scene still until
the end of next year. We have to leave it
there to mop up a few things. But yes, Really
this is about industry having control. So industry will set
the standards. Industry will develop the qualifications. Industry will do
the endorsement of who can deliver programs to meet those qualifications.
(03:17):
They will then have the quality assurance role as well.
So industry every step of the way are going to
be in control of ensuring that apprentices are learning what
they need to learn for their industry. And it really
does then put the responsibility onto industry to list those
completion rates, because at the moment we have under fifty
(03:39):
percent completion rates for our apprentices and we only have
between ten and twenty percent of employers taking on apprentices.
So industry now will have control and will have the
responsibility of lifting those rates also.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Excellent lots to keep you busy. Their Penny that is
a vocational educational minister. Sorry, what did I say, vocational
education minister. There we go Penny Simmons.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
For more from News Talks B listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you. We're hover
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk ZEDB. Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Government appears to have answered calls from those in the
trade industry. An overhaul of apprenticeships and in training are
on the way, effectively letting experts run things their own way.
A new independent industry lead model will be introduced early
next year, taking responsibility awale from the failed to perking
a polytechnic kind of trouble, saying that to perking of Polytechnic,
there we go. Vocational Education Minister Penny Simmons joins me.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Good morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So industries have been crying out for this, haven't they?
Why was the system not working?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Lookis industry have been crying out for it, and it's
been about getting industry back in the driver's seat. So
it wasn't working because industry voice had been taken away.
The old industry training organizations had been centralized into the
Combined Polytechnics Entity Pooking, which took industry away from being
(01:11):
able to control the sort of training that went on
for their apprentices.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
How big a job is the one you've got ahead
of you?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Then, look, it's quite big. It's taken quite a long time,
which has been frustrating for me and frustrating for industry.
But we're getting now to the sharp end of it
and we're looking at having a lot of things set
up by one January next year. So certainly the Industry
Skills Boards will be set up by one January next year.
(01:39):
The work based learning units, the old itos, they will
come out of the Taputina and they will sit for
a transition period with the Industry Skills Boards while industry
decides whether they want to have a private training provider
and industry training provider, and they can then set up
the private training provider if they wish to.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
There's criticism that the plan lacks detailents a lot to
get done by January. What's your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Look, No, there is a lot of d tail behind it,
and it's about getting the legislation in place. So the
legislation will be introduced to the House soon that will
certainly have all the detail in it, and then there'll
be the period of the Select Committee where people will
be able to have a say in if they see
some of the detail that needs changed.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay, have some sectors been putting their plans together already.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes, certainly they have. Yes, I think there will be
some industries that will be ready straight away to set
up a private training provider as soon as they're able
to in the beginning of next year, So poking is.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Out of the picture. Now, are you confident that most importantly,
new apprentices are going to get the skills they need.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yes, Look, taputing will be in the scene still until
the end of next year. We have to leave it
there to mop up a few things. But yes, Really
this is about industry having control. So industry will set
the standards. Industry will develop the qualifications. Industry will do
the endorsement of who can deliver programs to meet those qualifications.
(03:17):
They will then have the quality assurance role as well.
So industry every step of the way are going to
be in control of ensuring that apprentices are learning what
they need to learn for their industry. And it really
does then put the responsibility onto industry to list those
completion rates, because at the moment we have under fifty
(03:39):
percent completion rates for our apprentices and we only have
between ten and twenty percent of employers taking on apprentices.
So industry now will have control and will have the
responsibility of lifting those rates also.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Excellent lots to keep you busy. Their Penny that is
a vocational educational minister. Sorry, what did I say, vocational
education minister. There we go Penny Simmons.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
For more from News Talks B listen live on air
or online, and keep our shows with you. We're hover
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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