US President Donald Trump's in the midst of a showdown with the Supreme Court.
US border agents put 28 Venezuelans on a bus to Texas airport last night, where they would be taken to the infamous Salvadoran prison CECOT.
But the Supreme Court ordered a pause on the deportations.
US Correspondent Richard Arnold talks to Tim Beveridge about the unfolding situation and state department cut backs.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
For the US with Richard Arnold.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good morning, morning, Tim, Good to catch you.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, it feels like there's a bit of a showdown
brewing between the White House and the courts, and the
White House, the Supreme Court face of immigration.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
If anything, the immigration war is just holding up here.
US border agents put twenty eight Venezuelans that they'd rounded
up none to a bus headed for Texas Airport last night,
that they were going to be flown out of the country,
headed for that Salvadoran prison, Seacot, which is one of
the harshest jails anywhere in the world, where dozens of
inmates have sort of jammed into cells with an open
pit toilet and metal beds, no mattresses, often for life terms.
(00:55):
The bus was abruptly turned around when the US Supreme
Court ruled that there must be a pause in these deportations,
which are being done under the eighteenth century Enemies Act,
so going back aways right. Supreme Court ruling was seven
to two, with two of the most conservative justices on
the court Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas putting out their
(01:16):
descent last night, where they call the court intervention premature.
Trump meantime argues that he is the one who should
have control over foreign policy issues, all of them, not
the highest court in the land. Trump's saying of the
people being deported, people voted for me to get them out.
They want them out, they want them out, and we've
(01:37):
done a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
A district court judge says she is considering contempt proceedings
against the Trump administration of Australia to do anything to
return that Maryland man, our Brago Garcia, who were sent
off to El Salvador because of what was admitted to
being an administrative error. So error or not, he's wound
up in this maximum security prison. Now. The Trump teams
(02:01):
say they are never bringing him back in Ol Salvador's leader,
Nayib Bukelly, who's the one who calls himself the coolest
dictator and the world, says he won't be sending Abrego
Garcia back. That Marilyn's fate still is heading the news here.
A Senator chrisphin Holland is just back from our Salvador
where he met with this fellow. They're calling this the
Margaritaville scandal, the senators, saying the Salvadorans at first refused
(02:24):
to let him meet with Garcia. Then as the political
pressure grew within this country, they agreed to a meeting
at a hotel where the Senator was staying. So they
put mister Garcia into street clothes, sort of holiday clothes,
stays the meeting near the outside pool at the hotel.
Then they got waiters to put on the table what
looked like cocktails, maybe margaritas, which no one among the
(02:46):
senator's team had ordered except the Salvadoran officials had demanded
that these cocktails we put on the table for the cameras,
and they wanted all to look like Garcia was on
a tropical holiday or something, not being held in a
torture center, says the US senator.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They tried to manipulate it so make it look like
mister Abrego's Garcia's margarita had been drunk. In other words,
the liquid was lower. But they screwed up in their
scheme because if you look at the rims of the glasses,
I don't know if we're salt or sugar, but there's
no gap in them, so nobody touched the margaritas. They
(03:19):
want to pretend that this is some sort of tropical
paradise when he was in one of the most notorious
prisons in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The salvador and dictator posted those pictures a caption saying,
quote A Brega Guessia miraculously risen from the death camps
and torture, now sipping margarita's with Senator Van Holland in
the tropical paradise of El Salvador. You know him. Perfect
for anybody's next holiday plans. Right now, return to the
U S. Senator Van Holland says he is not intervening
in the specifics of the Garcia case, but making the
(03:47):
point that this is, in his view, a constitutional crisis,
with the White House defying the Supreme Court, which ordered
them to quote facilitate end quote Garcia's return, as the
Senator argues that everyone under US law is entitled to
the day in.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Court at least, I guess the Supreme Court or to
stop stop that export. That is interesting, asn't clounce Thomas
is premature. I would have thought just in time to
be honest on that anyway, bloody surreal State Department cuts
back cutbacks as well.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Perhaps already we've seen, of course, the US pulling back
from a leadership role in world affairs. Maybe more coming,
and the New Times reporting today that a drastically shaping
of the US State Department might be ahead, maybe starting
this week. They say that in the wake of many
other government cutbacks being overseen by those minions of elon Musk,
there may be the biggest State Department reductions that we've
(04:39):
seen since it was founded in seventeen eighty nine. This includes,
they say, big cuts in operations in Africa, and also
are cut in diplomatic connections with Canada. You know, this
is at a time when Trump tariffs already have shall
we say, teed off Canadians, many of them who once
were seen as maybe the most polite people on Earth.
They're now reducing ties with the United States. Some flights
(05:01):
from Canada to this country being curtailed because fewer Canadians
are wanting to travel here right now. You know, in
Palm Springs, where a lot of Canadians flee the frigid
North during their winters to live for a few months
in summer climes. The city has started hanging out street
signs saying we love Canadians. So far that does not
seem to be working. Many Canadians are simply very upset.
(05:23):
Some of the Trump teams say the Times reporters fake
news and that any cats will be much smaller than
has been reported. But there are indications that cutbacks could
be ordered by Friday, this time at the White House,
taking effect maybe from the start of October.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Tim well, interesting time, say thanks so much. Richard. That
is Richard Arnold from the US.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
For more from News Talks at b Listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
For the US with Richard Arnold.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Good morning, morning, Tim, Good to catch you.
Speaker 4 (00:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now, it feels like there's a bit of a showdown
brewing between the White House and the courts, and the
White House, the Supreme Court face of immigration.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
If anything, the immigration war is just holding up here.
US border agents put twenty eight Venezuelans that they'd rounded
up none to a bus headed for Texas Airport last night,
that they were going to be flown out of the country,
headed for that Salvadoran prison, Seacot, which is one of
the harshest jails anywhere in the world, where dozens of
inmates have sort of jammed into cells with an open
pit toilet and metal beds, no mattresses, often for life terms.
(00:55):
The bus was abruptly turned around when the US Supreme
Court ruled that there must be a pause in these deportations,
which are being done under the eighteenth century Enemies Act,
so going back aways right. Supreme Court ruling was seven
to two, with two of the most conservative justices on
the court Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas putting out their
(01:16):
descent last night, where they call the court intervention premature.
Trump meantime argues that he is the one who should
have control over foreign policy issues, all of them, not
the highest court in the land. Trump's saying of the
people being deported, people voted for me to get them out.
They want them out, they want them out, and we've
(01:37):
done a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
A district court judge says she is considering contempt proceedings
against the Trump administration of Australia to do anything to
return that Maryland man, our Brago Garcia, who were sent
off to El Salvador because of what was admitted to
being an administrative error. So error or not, he's wound
up in this maximum security prison. Now. The Trump teams
(02:01):
say they are never bringing him back in Ol Salvador's leader,
Nayib Bukelly, who's the one who calls himself the coolest
dictator and the world, says he won't be sending Abrego
Garcia back. That Marilyn's fate still is heading the news here.
A Senator chrisphin Holland is just back from our Salvador
where he met with this fellow. They're calling this the
Margaritaville scandal, the senators, saying the Salvadorans at first refused
(02:24):
to let him meet with Garcia. Then as the political
pressure grew within this country, they agreed to a meeting
at a hotel where the Senator was staying. So they
put mister Garcia into street clothes, sort of holiday clothes,
stays the meeting near the outside pool at the hotel.
Then they got waiters to put on the table what
looked like cocktails, maybe margaritas, which no one among the
(02:46):
senator's team had ordered except the Salvadoran officials had demanded
that these cocktails we put on the table for the cameras,
and they wanted all to look like Garcia was on
a tropical holiday or something, not being held in a
torture center, says the US senator.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
They tried to manipulate it so make it look like
mister Abrego's Garcia's margarita had been drunk. In other words,
the liquid was lower. But they screwed up in their
scheme because if you look at the rims of the glasses,
I don't know if we're salt or sugar, but there's
no gap in them, so nobody touched the margaritas. They
(03:19):
want to pretend that this is some sort of tropical
paradise when he was in one of the most notorious
prisons in the world.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The salvador and dictator posted those pictures a caption saying,
quote A Brega Guessia miraculously risen from the death camps
and torture, now sipping margarita's with Senator Van Holland in
the tropical paradise of El Salvador. You know him. Perfect
for anybody's next holiday plans. Right now, return to the
U S. Senator Van Holland says he is not intervening
in the specifics of the Garcia case, but making the
(03:47):
point that this is, in his view, a constitutional crisis,
with the White House defying the Supreme Court, which ordered
them to quote facilitate end quote Garcia's return, as the
Senator argues that everyone under US law is entitled to
the day in.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Court at least, I guess the Supreme Court or to
stop stop that export. That is interesting, asn't clounce Thomas
is premature. I would have thought just in time to
be honest on that anyway, bloody surreal State Department cuts
back cutbacks as well.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Perhaps already we've seen, of course, the US pulling back
from a leadership role in world affairs. Maybe more coming,
and the New Times reporting today that a drastically shaping
of the US State Department might be ahead, maybe starting
this week. They say that in the wake of many
other government cutbacks being overseen by those minions of elon Musk,
there may be the biggest State Department reductions that we've
(04:39):
seen since it was founded in seventeen eighty nine. This includes,
they say, big cuts in operations in Africa, and also
are cut in diplomatic connections with Canada. You know, this
is at a time when Trump tariffs already have shall
we say, teed off Canadians, many of them who once
were seen as maybe the most polite people on Earth.
They're now reducing ties with the United States. Some flights
(05:01):
from Canada to this country being curtailed because fewer Canadians
are wanting to travel here right now. You know, in
Palm Springs, where a lot of Canadians flee the frigid
North during their winters to live for a few months
in summer climes. The city has started hanging out street
signs saying we love Canadians. So far that does not
seem to be working. Many Canadians are simply very upset.
(05:23):
Some of the Trump teams say the Times reporters fake
news and that any cats will be much smaller than
has been reported. But there are indications that cutbacks could
be ordered by Friday, this time at the White House,
taking effect maybe from the start of October.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Tim well, interesting time, say thanks so much. Richard. That
is Richard Arnold from the US.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
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