Kerre Woodham: Do celebrities and self-made millionaires make for good parliamentarians?

Stop the press, the media has a new darling. Chlöe Swarbrick and the Opportunity Party can have a breather this week, a bit of downtime, because there's only one show in town and it's Paul Henry. The self-made millionaire, the former broadcaster, has thrown his hat into the political ring again. He wants to become a polly, and not just any old polly. He has no interest in sitting on the back benches, cooling his heels, learning the ropes. He is not there to shag spiders. He's made it perfectly plain that he wants to be a minister in the next coalition government. Prime Minister, hey, why not? There is no doubt when you hear him speak that he has a real passion for New Zealand and that he wants New Zealand to be a great place for his children and grandchildren, for your children and grandchildren. And there's no doubt that he's a great cheerleader for the ACT Party. 

“I think with ACT I can tangibly affect change. I think with ACT, it is the only party that I think can genuinely steer this country in the right direction. By right direction I mean create policies that inspire growth of our economy because our economy is perilously small, cut wasteful government spending in so many different ways, and hopefully create an environment whereby New Zealanders, I mean your introduction was spot on, where New Zealanders aren't angsting, they're not suspicious of everything all the time. I mean the thing that holds New Zealand back, because both of us travel a lot, we can both see New Zealand with a bit of perspective from offshore. What a brilliant country with extraordinary resources and potential it is. So why is it not being realised?"

That was former broadcaster Paul Henry talking to broadcaster Mike Hosking this morning. Will Paul Henry have the discipline to sit through the turgid meetings and briefings that are a part of being a politician? A lot of people go into politics and they say they're going to cut red tape and they're going to get things done, and within a matter of months they end up hogtied in the corner defeated by the red tape.  

Paul Henry is a loose cannon – he doesn't have to do anything. He's perfectly fine where he is. He could do whatever the hell he wanted. He's very bright, he's very quick witted. These are both blessings and curses for the ACT Party. He doesn't need the gig. He has his own thoughts. It might be a libertarian party, but by crikey, once he starts speaking his own mind within Parliament, it can create issues when you have to abide by coalition rules. And of course, Paul Henry is not the ACT Party – he's one person among many. The party has broad ranging policies and very strong ideas on just about everything, and you would have to surely look at those closely. You might like Paul Henry, but you might not like the policies that come along with Paul Henry. 

Do celebrities make good parliamentarians? On the one hand, it brings profile to the party, especially if they've been languishing a bit, and it's fair to say that ACT has taken a back seat to New Zealand First this year in terms of column inches generated, probably even taken a back seat to the Opportunity Party this year. National's Christopher Luxon doesn't have the pizzazz, the jazz hands of Paul Henry, nor indeed does Chris Hipkins. But I don't think Labour voters would be looking to ACT as their alternate party – but who knows, stranger things have happened. When you look at former broadcasters that have gone into politics, they've done okay, I suppose. Maggie Barry's probably the best of the recent crop. She made minister, but I think it was pretty tough going. Do self-made millionaires make good MPs? John Key was a good Prime Minister. Didn't have to do the gig and when he got bored, he went. But I think it's widely agreed that he was a pretty good PM for the times.  

This is probably just going to be a flash in the pan. There'll be the big announcement, we got it yesterday, it's gripped the media news cycle to the extent that we're going to wrap up I think the 24 hours of, I don't know what it was really, excitement? It wasn't shock so much, but it just seemed to be wow, it sort of energized the conversation around ACT, it energized the conversation around politics. And that's got to be a good thing. Anything that gets people interested in politics, great, but it's got to go beyond one person, it's got to go beyond celebrity, it's got to go beyond face value.  

As I say, if you're voting for Paul Henry you have to be very careful, as people did for Winston Peters. They liked him and the party came second. So be aware that there are broad ranging policies, have a look at those before you decide oh, I like that Paul Henry, I'm going to give him a tick. And be aware too that quick witted, mercurial people who don't need the gig might not be around for a long time. It'll be a good time

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Stop the Press, The media has a new darling, Kulo
Wong and the Opportunity Party can have a breather this week,
but a downtime because there's only one show in town
and it's Paul Henry, the self made millionaire, the former
broadcaster has thrown his hat into the political ring again.

(00:32):
He wants to become a Polly, and not just any
old polly. He has no interest in sitting on the
back benches calling his heels, learning the ropes. He is
not there to share spiders. He's made it perfectly plain
that he wants to be a minister in the next
coalition government Prime minister. Hey, why not? There is no

(00:55):
doubt when you hear him speak that he has a
real passion for New Zealand and that he wants New
Zealand to be a great place for his children and grandchildren,
for your children and children. And there's no doubt that
he is a great cheerleader for the ACT Party.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think with ACT I can tangibly affect change. I
think with ACT it is the only party that I
think can genuinely steer this country in the right direction.
By right direction, I mean create policies that inspire growth
of our economy, because our economy is perilously small, cut,

(01:32):
wasteful government spending in so many different ways, and hopefully
create an environment where by New Zealanders, I mean your
introduction was spot on. When New Zealanders aren't angsting, they're
not suspicious of everything all the time. I mean the
thing that holds New Zealand back. Because both of us
travel a lot, we can both see New Zealand with
a bit of perspective from offshore. What a brilliant country

(01:54):
with extraordinary resources and potential it is, so why is
it not being realized?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
That was former broadcaster Paul Henry talking to broadcaster Mike
Coskin this morning on the Mike Crostking Breakfast. Will Paul
Henry have the discipline to sit through the turgid meetings
and briefings that are a part of being a politician.

(02:22):
A lot of people go into politics and they say
they're going to cut red tape and they're going to
get things done, and within a matter of months they
end up hog tied in the corner, defeated by the
red tape. Paul Henry is a loose cannon. He doesn't
have to do anything. He's perfectly fine where he is.

(02:45):
He could do whatever the hell he wanted. He's very bright,
he's very quick witted. These are both blessings and curses
for the ACT Party. He doesn't need the gig. He
has his own thoughts. You know, it might be a
libertarian party, but by crikey, once he starts speaking his
own mind within parliament, it can create issues when you

(03:10):
have to abide by coalition rules. And of course Paul
Henry is not the ACT Party. He's one person among many.
The party has broad ranging policies and very strong ideas
on just about everything, and you would have to surely
look at those closely. You might like Paul Henry, but

(03:34):
you might not like the policies that come along with
Paul Henry. Do celebrities make good parliamentarians? On the one hand,
you know, it brings profile to the party, especially if
they've been languishing a bit. And it's fair to say
that ACT has taken a back seat to New Zealand

(03:56):
First this year in terms of colomas Is generated, probably
even taken a back seat to the Opportunity Party this year. Nationals.
Christopher Luxen doesn't have the bizaz the jazz hands of
Paul Henry, nor indeed does Chris Hipkins. But I don't

(04:18):
think labor voters would be looking to act as their
alternate party. But who knows. Stranger things have happened. When
you look at former broadcasters that have gone into politics,
they've done okay. I suppose Maggie Barry's probably the best

(04:38):
of the recent crop. She made minister, But you know,
I think it was pretty tough going your self made
millionaires make good MPs. John Key was a good prime minister,
didn't have to do the gig, and when he got
bored he went. But I think it's widely agreed that

(05:03):
he was a pretty good PM for the time. This
is probably just going to be a flash in the pan.
There'll be the big announcement. We got it yesterday, scripped
the media news cycle to the extent that you know

(05:24):
we're going to wrap up. I think the twenty four
hours of I don't know what it was really excitement.
It wasn't shocked so much, but it just seemed to
be wow. The it energized, it sort of energized the
conversation around act. It ergied, energized the conversation around politics,

(05:46):
and that's got to be a good thing. Anything that
gets people interested in politics great, But it's got to
go beyond one person. It's got to go beyond celebrity.
It's got to go beyond face value. As I say,
if you're voting for Paul Henry, you have to be
very careful. As young people did for Winston Peters. They
liked him and the party came second. So be aware

(06:12):
that there are broad ranging policies. Have a look at
those before you decide, Oh, I like that Paul Henry.
I'm going to give him a tick. And be aware
too that quick witted, mercurial people who don't need the
gig might not be around for a long time. It'll
be a good time, but it won't be a long time.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
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