Kerre Woodham: The Delmore development's giving fast-track a bad name

Well, this Orewa development's giving fast-track consenting a very bad name, isn't it? I am absolutely gobsmacked. I am no property developer, but I would have thought you wouldn't apply to put up hundreds and hundreds of houses before you had, if you’ll excuse me, your shit together, quite literally. The decision to greenlight a 1,217 home development on the outskirts of Orewa has attracted heavy criticism from the Auckland mayor, the council, local residents, and just about everybody you speak to. And deservedly so. Vineway Limited plans to build the homes, a commercial area, two neighbourhood parks, some ecological areas to tick the box, and construct a State Highway 1 interchange. All very admirable, but where's the wastewater pipes? And the water pipes full stop. Lovely to have a little ecological area where you can rediscover a sparkling skink, but what about the pipes? 

There isn't the capacity from Watercare to deliver water, get rid of the waste for the more than a thousand homes in the commercial space. Watercare has made it abundantly clear that it cannot connect any services to the site before 2033, potentially 2050, so why in heaven's name would you allow a housing development of this size to go ahead? We've been there, we've done that, it doesn't work. Two years ago, Watercare was trucking sewage from new housing developments while infrastructure was being built to cope with the waste. But they said two years ago this wasn't working. It was expensive, it was smelly, it was complex. So they said no, we're not going to approve any new resource consents that require an interim wastewater solution. And they did oppose this Orewa one. 

Back at the time they were talking about servicing Cardinal West, a housing development on a former dairy farm. There were 300 homes there, in the first stage they were planning 417 odd. There were 300 homes, and to service those 300 homes Watercare had to make 90 trips a week to remove the sewage. 90 for 300 homes. How many trips would it take to get rid of the waste from 1,217 homes? Can I remind you too, because this is why it's so incomprehensible; if this was a first where you had a housing developer saying, “Hey, I know we haven't got any pipes to connect to the water infrastructure and the wastewater infrastructure, and I know we won't get them till about 2050 but what about we truck water in and take the treated sewage away?" And if that was the first time it had been suggested, you might think, “Well, that sounds half baked, but nonetheless let's give it a go, let's not be negative Nancys, let's just, we need housing." Look at them. It doesn't work. That's why Watercare said no. 

And can I remind you of Auckland's Whitford Manor, described by planners as a cautionary tale of what can go wrong when developers build houses in areas where public water pipes have yet to reach. Spelling it out for the property developers out there. Over the years, every plan for a private wastewater system at Whitford Manor collapsed. A deal to pipe waste across a neighbouring golf course fell through, shock me. And a backup plan to dump it in a nearby creek was killed in the High Court by conservationists and iwi, and I don't blame them. It didn't work 150 years ago, we're still dealing with the problems of just using natural waterways to dump our crap into and our arsenic and our poisons from the factories. Look at the creeks around Grey Lynn, they're still recovering. 

So what in God's name are we doing in Orewa? Watercare held up Whitford Manor's failure as one of the reasons to object to other housing projects trying to build outside the public network. We've been there. We've seen that it can go wrong. Everybody's opposed to it, apart from the developers, who, you can take your ecological area and your indigenous skink and shove it up your jacksy because until you've got the infrastructure that's necessary, you're creating a recipe for disaster and you won't be clearing it up. You won't be, because like Whitford Manor you'll just go tits up and bankrupt and off you go. And guess who's left cleaning up your waste, your mess? We are, the ratepayers, the taxpayers. No, no, no, no. If this is an example of the fast-track consenting process, it's a big fat fail from me. 

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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, this aurew development's giving fast track consenting a very
bad name, isn't it. I am absolutely gobsmacked. I am
no property developer, but I would have thought you wouldn't
apply to put up hundreds and hundreds of houses before
you had. If you will excuse me, you shipped together

(00:33):
quite literally. The decision to greenlight are one thousand, two
hundred and seventeen home development on the outskirts of Oordawa
has attracted heavy criticism from the Auckland Mayor, the council,
local residents and just about everybody you speak to, and
deservedly so. Vine Way Limited plans to build the homes,

(00:53):
a commercial area, to neighborhood parks, form ecological areas, to
take the box and construct a State Highway one interchange,
all very admirable, but where's the waste? Water pipes and
the water pipes? Full stop? Lovely to have a little
ecological area where can rediscover a sparkly skink, But what

(01:13):
about the pipes? There isn't the capacity from Water Care
to deliver water, get rid of the waste for the
more than a thousand homes in the commercial space. Water
Care has made it abundantly clear that it cannot connect
any services to the site before twenty thirty three, potentially

(01:36):
twenty fifty. So why in Heaven's name would you allow
a housing development of this size to go ahead. We've
been there, we've done that, it doesn't work. Two years ago,
water Care was trucking sewage from new housing developments while
infrastructure was being built to cope with the waste. But

(01:59):
they said two years ago this wasn't working. It was expensive,
it was smelly, it was complex. So they said, no,
we're not going to approve any new resource consents that
require an interim wastewater solution, and they did a pose.
This audio were one back at the time. They were
talking about servicing Cardinal West, a housing development on a

(02:22):
former dairy farm. There were three hundred homes there and
the first stage they were planning four hundred and seventeen odd,
so there were three hundred homes and to service those
three hundred homes, water Care had to make ninety trips
a week to remove the sewage. Ninety for three hundred homes.
How many trips would it take to get rid of

(02:44):
the waste from one two hundred and seventeen homes. Can
I remind you too, because this is why it's so incomprehensible.
If this was a first where you had a housing
developer saying, hey, I know we haven't got any pipes
to connect to the water or infrastructure in the wastewater infrastructure,

(03:09):
and I know we won't get them till about twenty fifty,
but what about we truck water in and take the
treated sewage away? And if that was the first time
it had been suggested, you might think, well, that sounds
half baked. But nonetheless, let's give it a go. Let's
not be negative nancies. Let's just we need housing. Look

(03:31):
at them. It doesn't work. That's why water Care said no.
And can I remind you of Auckland's Whitford Manor, described
by planners as a cautionary tale of what can go
wrong when developers build houses and areas where public water

(03:53):
pipes have yet to reach, spelling it out for the
property developers out there. Over the years, every plan for
a private wastewater system at Whitford Mana collapsed, A deal
to pipe wait across a neighboring golf course fell through
shock Me and a backup plan to dump it in

(04:13):
a nearby creek was killed in the High Court by
conservation as Suniwi, and I don't blame them. It didn't work.
One hundred and fifty years ago, we're still dealing with
the problems of just using natural waterways to dump our
crap into and our arsenic and our poisons from the factories.
Look at the creeks around Graylyn, they're still recovering. So

(04:35):
what in God's name are we doing in older whatever
water care held up whitford Man, It's failure as one
of the reasons to object to other housing projects trying
to build outside the public network. We've been there, We've
seen that it can go wrong. Everybody's opposed to it,

(04:58):
apart from the developers who you can take your ecological
area and your engage in skink and shove it up
your jacksy because until you've got the infrastructure that's necessary,
you're creating a recipe for disaster and you won't be

(05:19):
clearing it up. You won't be because like whitford manor
you just go tits up and bankrupt and off you
go and guess who's left cleaning up. You'll waist your mess.
We are the ratepayers the taxpays. No. No, no, no no.
If this is an example of the fast track consenting process,

(05:40):
it's a big fat fail from me.

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