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On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Wednesday the 1st of July, the Michelin star awards were handed out and we discussed if this made the Government investment worthwhile.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
News Talk said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome
into Wednesday show. Great to have you listening and I
hope you're having a great day. Matt Heath, how you
doing very well?

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Thank you, Tyler Adams, and thank you, as you say
to everyone who's tuned in. O one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to give us a call.
Here's the Texas come through though. And it's a bit
of a complaint about the show from yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Right, okay, let's serrip.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
You never explained rat versus frog on the show yesterday.
You brought it up and never explained it. I waited
three hours for the explanation. Normally loved the show, but
that was annoying. What the hell is rat V frog say?
This was just to throw away comment on something totally different.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm not really.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Sure why we brought up rat V Frog. I was
in Lee Cronan's The Mummy, which is a fantastic horror
movie I went to and I'm going to Evil Dead
Burns tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Is that what it's called? Evil did burn Yeah? Yeah,
how good?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, looking forward to that. But anyway, I'm not sure
why I brought it up, and it's been around for
quite a while. It was sort of the sensation and
it's basically it's a popular internet theory where people claim
that every human face resembles either a rodent or an amphibian. Okay, right,

(01:41):
so not insultingly at all. I think it's been around
for a few years. I think maybe since twenty twenty four.
But it's not insulting. It's not to say that you
are ugly because you're a rat or a frog, but's
just saying that everyone is either more rat or frog
when it comes down to it.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I can see that. So I look at myself, I'd
be I'd be proud rodent. Rodent, Yeah, you're a rat,
and you'd be froggy. I'm definitely frog, you're definitely yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
So I mean a rat often eyes slightly close together
and sharper nose, maybe a little bit pointier teeth, maybe
slightly more pronounced front teeth.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Yep, you know that describes me pretty well.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Frog, larger, rounder eyes, nose, shorter and flatter.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
The shield a nutshell.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah, but it is once you start doing this, everyone
already knows. Because when I saw that movie and they
brought it up on the movie, we were driving home and.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We all immediately knew what we were. Yeah, Tracy goes
rat face, it's evolution.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
My son goes frog face. Yep, Dad, you're a frog
face too. So it's interesting if you look around and
think about everyone, you know they're either a frog face
or a rat face.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Can I just run through some famous key with Andrew
in the studio out there? Frog face? Yep, he's frog
and he loves it too. Look at them. Can I
just run you through some Yeah, you got it, Andrew
so some famous kiwis and was try and say it
at the same time, Sir Peter Jackson one two three Frog,
Tiger White t D Right, Okay, I was going to
say frog, but a debataboy.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
I haven't actually looked at him for a while. I
don't have a picture of him, all.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Right, while you're looking up Tiger why TD, Russell Crowe Frog, Yeah,
he's a frog lord Rodents Yeah, Sam Neil frog frog
see Edmund Hillary. I reckon he started off as a
rodent and then he became a frog.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh you're hunt of a cent about tiger. He's a
frog and he's a massive frog, a frog. He's the
most frog face there is in the business.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah. I can't believe I thought he was a rat face.
Now you know the game. Everywhere you look, it's going
to be rodents and frogs. Very good. What a game?
What a game?

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Tell you what Menheath and Tyler Adams on News took
heb reheating internet.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Sensations from three years ago, The rodent and the frog
on Afternoons. Very good. Look it up and it will
change your life through min Hillary rat face? Yeah, is
that the younger su Red though, I reckon, he's got
a bit older, he got a bit more frog face.
He's a rat this whole life. Yeah, he's great. Point Yeah,
great New Zealander. Right on to our today's show and
this topic, because we've already had so many text on it.

(04:25):
But the glittering ceremony at the International Convention Center for
the Michelin Stars or one hundred and ten venues recognized
around the country, ninety five were awarded the bib command
or Mitchellan. Selected accolades in fourteen were given a single
Micheland Star, including Queenstown's Amersfield, Wahigi Island's mud Brick, and
christ Church's Tassic Hill. So the Michellan International Director Gwendal

(04:49):
Polinik says this brings these restaurants to another level.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Getting a star can be a life changer for chef,
but also a game changer for the destination.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
And Tyler. You hear a lot about Tyler up in
Auckland that became How good is this the first ever
Sarmen restaurant to receive a star. A head chef hen
Owe simo he was brought to tears when he got
that award. Telling someone doesn't mean story, and I'm just
one of the few ones that are trying to tell
someone foot story. I'm sure, sorry, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's great when people create something like Taylor and work
so hard on it, and you know, and to the
point where they're emotional about it. Yeah, because he's thinking
when he says that all the hard work that's gone
into the restaurant, everyone that works there, the whole idea
behind it, from the inception of the idea to this here.
That's why I just love these stories of success.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
It's a beautiful thing, isn't it. In essence in Queenstown
that was the only New Zealand venue to receive a
coveted two stars, and head chef Paul Froggett says they
are still striving for excellence. We're only as good as
are last enough, We're only as good as the plate
we served last night and today we do it all
over again. Frog it see a frog face or a
rat face. He's got to be a frog face with
that sort of name. But clearly this was a glittering

(06:03):
event that's been well talked about and there was a
lot of excitement, a hit of those international wars. But
many are saying this recognition will be a major boost
for New Zealand's hospitality sector, but also for our tourism industry.
It's expected to attract high value tourists to the country,
as it semits our reputation is a serious global food destination.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Now, as I said before, it's a bit weird that
this incredibly flash awards around the highest level of food
has a strange inflatable tire man that looks like the
Stay Fresh marshmallow Man, marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters. He does
standing on the side of the stage, sort of lowers
the class of it a little bit strange.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Look, but one Michelin star, would.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
That be very good cooking and two excellent cooking and
three exceptional cuisine?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah? I think three is the highest you can get,
isn't it?

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Right?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, So, just looking at this now, there's three one
hundred and seventy three one star restaurants in the world,
five hundred and forty four to two star restaurants. So
if you're part of the one stars, that's a very
select group. But two stars, you're one of only five
hundred and forty four of these restaurants in the entire world.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
If you think about all the restaurants in.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
The entire world, right, and one hundred and sixty one
to three star restaurants, it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
So I mean, of you dined in a Michelin star restaurant,
what is the difference? Are you familiar with any of
these restaurants here? And do you think it's a positive thing?
Because when I heard this, I immediately thought this is
an incredibly positive thing, because you know, we are a

(07:43):
hospitality country. We invite people into our country.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
We are very proud of our food.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
We're very proud of our produce and our chefs and
our hospitality and a huge to tourist nation. So having
these ratings is just celebrating that excellence, right, and also
advertising that excellence correct.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
To the world.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
So I thought it'd be a really positive thing. So
I see this post up on the Musicland Herald's Instagram
page and the first comment is this one here. Meanwhile,
the National Party cuts funding to food banks and we
can't even feed our people. I just thought, where does
that attitude come from? It's such a bizarre attitude. So

(08:27):
it's always people like this, as the next poster down sat,
it's always people like this. When when we have events
that shine a light on people's hard work and success,
you like to make it political. Have you ever tried
celebrating people's success?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
And so is the.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Idea there that because this costs six million dollars out
of the Tourism New Zealand budget, So six point three
million dollars out of Tourism New Zealand's budget, right, and
we also have food banks that we shouldn't be trying
to grow the high end of our hospitality market because

(09:07):
at the other end of eating, there's people that need
food banks.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Is that the logic?

Speaker 3 (09:15):
But as I said to you before, Tyler, that's like
going up to you know, Zoe, what's the name the
sprinter Hobbs and saying, stop celebrating your hundred meter speed
because some people don't have legs. Yeah, the two things
aren't related. You can celebrate success and also at the
same time recognize that some people are doing it hard.

(09:38):
But if we never reach for the stars, then we
will not have the opportunity to hire people so that
we don't need food banks. Yes, if you see what
I'm saying, So a restaurant that's very successful and can
charge a lot to tourists to dine there is going
to hire a lot of New Zealanders and it's going

(10:00):
to buy a lot of incredibly high quality New Zealand produce,
so everyone wins. The two things aren't related.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I don't understand it. But when you read that coming
out to me this morning before the show, I'm going
to say it wasn't entirely surprised. I mean, it's I
hate hearing those things and I read that, of oh
goodness sake, give me strength. But I think more and
more that is what we're seeing, is that sort of
attitude that when something nice and wonderful and something that
should be celebrated happens, there is a growing part of

(10:30):
the population that wants to bring it down. And I
don't quite understand what that rationale is. You know, you've
asked that question. I don't know. Oh, e one hundred
and eighty ten eighty if you if you feel that.
But I've seen a couple of texts come through. Guys,
this is like the Hunger Games. It's let them eat cake.
This is six million dollars of our money going to rich,
hoity towety people who eat in fancy restaurants. But that's
a misunderstanding of what this investment is going to. But

(10:54):
is that where it dials down to that It is
again people who feel like they having a hard time
at life at the moment, but the picking and choosing
to blame people who are trying to do well as
in somehow that's the reason that not doing so well
in life.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Wow says, So we can't afford three hundred and fifty
million for school lunches, but we can afford five million
to feed rich people. I'll go into the details of
what's wrong with that text in a minute. But do
you want to celebrate these Michelin star restaurants that have
been celebrated in New Zealand or do you think that
the whole thing's a waste of six point five million

(11:29):
dollars and it should have gone to a food bank.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Tell us what you think. Oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is that number to call? It is seventeen
past one.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks, they'd.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Be twenty past one. So we're talking about the Mitchelin
A Star awards that were announced last night. One hundred
or more than one hundred restaurants around Auckland, Wellington, christ
Shops and Queenstown awarded and fifteen stars awarded to restaurants
in this country. So is that a positive to you
or do you think there is something wrong we're spending
that six point three million dollars to attract the awards

(12:06):
to this country. Tell us what you think.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Also, have you been to any of these restaurants? I've
been to Msfield and Queenstown.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
How was that so good? Looks amazing but just such
a great spot as well.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Everything involved in Msfield and Queenstown is very cool. I've
been to mud Brick Wayhiki Island.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Beautiful there.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
I was mainly there in a drinking capacity.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I beat you were nice mine this. I've been to
Sherwood and Queenstown as well. Geez, how flash am I
I've been to a bunch of these places. I've been
to an arty in christ Church that was phenomenal. That
was amazing food.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
You can guarantee that Tyler and Auckland is going to
be just go from success to success on the back
of this, right.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's going to be booked out for months yet.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Hope.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number to call if you want to send to text?
Nine two nine two is that number? Jay? How are
you mates?

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (12:53):
You guys?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
I was going very well.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
I was just I don't know.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
I think it's just reading on that whole thing and
just watching the news about it, and it's a real
success story for you know, a country that's at the
bottom of the globe getting all of this recognition. I
think I think in general, you know, the New Zealand government,
you know, we need to spend money to make money.
So if it's going to cost five million or six

(13:22):
million dollars to bring in a heap of tourists to
spend money, then so be it. I think, And I
think in general, like Qiewis, we focus on the negatives
more than in the positives. And that's that's through a
whole sport spectrum of a lot of things in New Zealand.
Like with sports, you can even see it will sports stars,
like you know when when a player scores five tries

(13:43):
and then guys are like, oh yeah, but he's always injured.
You know, it's like really so, I don't know, it's
it's probably the downfall of us kiwis. In general. We
don't we don't really like to sort of be a
show pony. We sort of like to bring people back
down to our sort of picking order. It's quite sad
because we should. When I saw that, when I saw

(14:06):
the news about that some restaurant that got a Michelin
star Tyler, I was really happy. Me being some more
on hoss really stoked for them because I was that
just that just brings more the South Pacific cuisine. It's
more to the world global wards, so you know, and
it's you know, all the other country, all the other
restaurants in New Zealand as well. So that just made

(14:28):
me like, really, because it's only the celebrity chiefs that
get those awards, isn't it. There's what you see on TV.
So to get those awards, it was really it's really
good achievement for New Zealand and the restaurant in general.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And what do you think about So it's kind of
hard to get the exact figure here, but I think
it's about six point three million dollars was spent by
Tourism New.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Zealand on this.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Do you think that that'll be you know that that
we'll we'll earn that money back. That's six point three
million dollars. It'll be an investment that'll that will grow
tourism earnings to justify it.

Speaker 8 (15:03):
We're not going to go I think it's justified, but
because a lot of it's marketing, so we're not going
to get an influx of tourism because at the moment,
the whole world is going through a sort of like
a smaller recession or the whole fuel crisis in there,
and we're not seeing the numbers of our tourists as
it was ten years ago. But it's more of a marketing.

(15:23):
If we could start brending and start showing showcasing these
restaurants around the world that we do have Michelan restaurants
in New Zealand, then that will create more of a
buzz and people will start coming in not just for
the food, but it's just in New Zealand as a
country as well, because there's more to us than just
bungee jumping and kayaking.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
And I think jay a lot of people do think
when they're traveling a long way because there's a text
that comes through and no one's going to travel twelve
hours to go to a restaurant. But that's that's not true.
I think people look at a country and they're deciding
to go somewhere and it's a real effort to come
to New Zealand for a lot of people, but they
want to know that there's that there's great food there,

(16:05):
so they want to know that there's there's great scenery.
We can have ties that you talk about these adventure tourism,
but if you're also showing that we have Michlin Star
restaurants here. I think that does make a big difference
because that's a lot of holidays. A lot of holidays
is the eating, the dining. People talk about that all
the time, you know, you talk to people that have
gone overseas, one of the first things they'll talk about

(16:28):
is the food. They'll go, what was the food like?
That is one of the first things people ask. So
if that question is answered when someone's about to book
the flight, oh, there's all these Michelin Star restaurants over there,
then you're answering the question is the food good over there?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (16:44):
It is?

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, Jay, thank you very much for your call. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten and eighty Yeah, it's part
of the package deal, right, I think absolutely when people
are looking here, that's going to make a big difference.
But what do you say? Nine two ninety two is
the number two text? It is twenty five past one.
We're going to play some messages. But when we come back,
we have a chat to Matthew who recently dined at

(17:05):
one of the Mitchellan Star restaurants down in the South Islands,
so we'll get his review and to.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
All those people that are putting through, you know, texting through.
You know, look at the history of mitchelland you'll understand
where the Mitchellan man tay guy was there. We get it, Yeah,
I get it. I understand that. You know, it started
as a guide to get people driving around in France
more so they could use the tires more right. It
was that the Mitchellan Guide was places to go. Understand that.
All I'm saying is this is an interesting juxtaposition between

(17:33):
incredibly you know, celebrating the excellence is the absolute elite
of cuisine with a mascot that kind of looks like
it could be at McDonald's. Yeah, not that there's anything
wrong with McDonald's.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Now, did you need the human inside the Mitchelland costume
right there alongside the rest of the award? I kind
of loved it. Yeah, it was a nice look, right. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty's number to call it
is twenty six past one.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Feelers focused informed. It's the myke Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
And Renny is the chief executive and Secretary to the Treasury.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
You see this coming absolutely.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
I mean, what motivated me to come back to Trusu
at the end of twenty twenty four was that I
could see from the outside that the organization had been
through some packia and the country needs a strong treasury
and to report highlights. And my leadership team that was
built over the past twelve months. A lot of those
people came back to Treasury because they could see a
new direction and they care about the organization.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
So no, there weren't a.

Speaker 9 (18:29):
Lot of surprises in what the report said. The key
thing for.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
Us is to get on and get the work done.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Back tomorrow at six am, the mic asking breakfast with
Bailey's real Estate on Newstogs.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
There'd be twenty nine pass once we're talking about the
Michelin Awards ceremony. Is that a positive thing for New Zealand?
Or do you question the money spent on getting the
awards to this country?

Speaker 8 (18:52):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
One hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
The sixth says, I love your show, but if you
say Michelin again, I will eat your liver with some
father beans and a nice chanty.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
That is some fine ninety right there.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Great reference Michelin, Michelin, Michelin, here you go, dear Texter.
I'm not denying that I would have said Michelin at
some point, it's just the kind of thing I do.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Some good teaks going through on nine two nine two.
This one says, oh my god, that guy previously was right.
The backpackers aren't traveling at the moment because they are
affected by economy, but the rich are, so we should
be targeting the top end tourists, well spent pennies. Bring
them in and fleece them. It's good for all of us.
And this one says, get a boys. This is on

(19:36):
the other side. The awards benefit nobody but the restaurants.
If I was going on holiday to France, do I
google how many Michelin Stars the country had and not
go if they don't have enough, it's all bollocks. I'd
questioned that. Say that again. Sorry, So he says, hey, boys,
the awards benefit nobody but the restaurants. If I was
going on holiday to France, do I google how many
Michelin Stars the country had and not go if they

(19:58):
don't have enough, it's all bollocks.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well, you have to be an absolute moron if you
are going to France and you don't think they're going
to have Michelin Star restaurants there. I mean, there's no
one that's googling that everyone knows.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
We may have the most. Yeah, we know they do
pretty well with food.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
You're not going to France if you don't know that,
that's ridiculous. But you might not know that New Zealand
because it hasn't up until this point. But but you
might not know that New Zealand has good time of
the best cuisine in the entire world.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
You might not know, yep, And that might very familiar.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
That might make you a question coming here as opposed
to other places, because as I said before that the
dining is a huge part of tourism.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yep. Obviously, Yeah, keep sending those teaks through on nine
two nine two. We're a bit late, but we'll read
this one.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Out disgusting hard times always flush out the rich and
entitled what does that mean?

Speaker 11 (20:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:46):
What does that mean? Unpeck that one? Yes, Okay, I'm
mel on that one over the headlines which are coming
up with Wendy Petree, but taking more of your calls, Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the Michelin Star Awards.
Is that a good positive thing for New Zealand or
the opposite? Tell us it is twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 2 (22:19):
Thank you very much, Wendy. So we're talking about the
Michelin Awards last night, where there were fifteen stars awarded
to various restaurants up and down the country. But the
question we've got viewers, do you think this is a
positive thing for New Zealand or do you see some
negatives in the six point three million dollars that were spent.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
I've seen some negatives because I was reading out a
text before that was complaining about my pronunciation because I
said Michelin instead of Michelin, and they said that if
I say it again, and they would like to eat
my liver with some father beans yep, and a nice chanty.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Right, Okay, see what's happened here.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
What's happened here is I guess it's irony. But whilst
I was addressing problems with my pronunciation of Michelin, I
also added to it by mispronouncing Hannibal Lecter's words, because
of course it's a key ant, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Can we just confirm that have we got the the
original source material?

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, so what do you want to do?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So you already want to eat my lover with a
nice ki anti for pronouncing Michelin wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
What you what? What? What do you want to do
to me for mispronouncing Hannibal lict? You've already eaten my
level with.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
A census tager.

Speaker 13 (23:30):
One's trying to test me.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
I ate his lever with some father beans and a
nice knt.

Speaker 12 (23:39):
N.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
I didn't get the last bit. What a scene a
father beans?

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Well, he's quite the eater Annibal Lecter, isn't he? I
mean talking about fine dining. He knows his food and
his wine apparently. Yeah. Anyway, anyway, on with the show, Mets.
You recently died at one of these restaurants that got
a Michelin star.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
Well, yeah, I.

Speaker 14 (24:03):
Was up at pass It Kill up at the top
of Hunsbrey Hill, like sort of in line with the
bike park in Canterbury, sort of on the other hill. Yeah,
it's really nice, Like it's like a you think you're
in like a Provence or some because it's like a winery.
They've got some vines around it and it's sort of
like that sandstone colored building. And yeah, it's just you

(24:26):
get treated real nice. They're only open for like brunch
and lunch. They don't you know, but the view over
christ Church is it's really good.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm in the pot hell scene, is it.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (24:36):
Yeah, it's sort of like up where like around where
the brickworks is if you know Centaurus Road and you
go up the hill from there.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
So well, yeah, and even you existed, I'm a shame
to admit.

Speaker 14 (24:47):
No, it's it's it's definitely worth a definitely worth a visit.
Like it's yeah, it's really good. And I think we
talk about the tourism. I think they'll make the money
back just with local people going out and trying food,
because I mean it's food that you don't make it.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Home, is it. Like you don't make that like to
get all those.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Opponents and to put it together and to make it
artistic with the little flowers and the time leaves, and you.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Don't make that at home.

Speaker 14 (25:17):
Like and it's just so nice to go out with
some nice company, have a good feed and like, yeah,
shifting hospitality it's a hard graft. They're they're there in
the morning and at night. They've got high rents, they've
got staff packages that they've got staffing to pay.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
It's it's hard. It's like cheffing is hard.

Speaker 14 (25:38):
Like this this vision of like these master shifts and
you just go on you then you open up a
place and it's it's not as easy as I think
as people think it is.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's it's a really hard graft.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
Well, there's so much there's so much money just being
spent in the construction. Just looking at at this place now,
this tussic Hell, it's a beautiful you know, they've had
to build that, purpose built it. So that's that's employment.
Then as you say, all the people the employ there,
then all the produce that they bring in, it does
great things for the economy. And if we don't have

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this higher end where people go and spend a bit
of money, then you know, if everything's just the low end,
then then it's then it's hard to get wages up
and it's hard to you know. And what did you
have at tuskell Met.

Speaker 14 (26:26):
I think we had like the beef reb and some
sour dough and like a beetroot thing and it was
just good chargrilled carrots which are amazing.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 14 (26:41):
But any like i've eaten it, like I do like
eating out yet, like that's like a Nati or something
like that. Just the experience, you know, sitting down with
someone you really like or obviously and having that sharing
a meal.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
It's just yeah, you can't beat it. You can't beat it.

Speaker 14 (27:00):
I'm just sick of the knockers, the people that just
and even like with Liam Lawson, you know, this whole
week there's been knockers, knockers all week.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Pick the death of them.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, we don't like knockers. Kick out the knockers. We
don't like knockers.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just Yeah, sometimes.

Speaker 14 (27:20):
You can take you take your significant friend.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
Or other out and go and have a nice feed somewhere.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
And when you finish your meal, when you finish your
meal at tussakel Matt, did you put the knife and fork.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Together and went I think that was that was Michel
and level that meal was so good.

Speaker 14 (27:35):
Well, it wasn't in there, it wasn't Michel and then
less what.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm saying, I'm saying, I just want to I wonder
whether your taste buds are right up there with the inspectors.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Maybe.

Speaker 14 (27:46):
Maybe, But I've just booked Londo for next next week,
and I hope the price doesn't go up because someone
said it's a really banging restaurant in Papi but he
got named Young Chef of the like year or something,
Robert Guy. And hope, I hope it doesn't increase this price.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I'm sure to keep it reasonable. Matt. Nice to hear
from you. Thank you very much. Hundred and eighty ten
eighty if you've been to one of these Michealin New
Michelin awarded restaurants. Love to hear from you. If you
want to see the text ninety two niney two is
that number? Well?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
The father Beans in Kyanti quote was a subtle joke.
It relates to the psychiatric drugs that Hannibal should be
on to curtail his tendencies. The drug in question can't
be mixed with food groups with high amino acids, such
as wine, liver.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Or beans. That's someone that's gone down the rabbit hole. Man.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You'd have been a smart viewer of Silence of the
Lambs if you picked that up on Yeah, well pick
picked up on that.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Keep those teats coming through nine two nine two. But
we want to hear from you on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, and we have a chat with
Mark next, who's just had a bunch of French tourists
and that were blown away by the quality of some
of our food. Give them a tastic king. Yeah, that
is next eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talks.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
The'd be sixteen to two. The shill An Awards a
good thing for New Zealand or a negative, this person said.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
People that are saying it is money spent on the
rich are talking out there. The government estimates thirty six
thousand extra international visitors a year from Michelin coming to
New Zealand about one hundred and thirty six million year
in extra visiting spending. If those three thousand, six hundred

(29:33):
extra visitors spend that the current average international visitor rape
person's really gone.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Depth on the crunch the numbers.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Crunch the numbers for this text. The math international visitors
spent thirteen point seven billion in the year to March
twenty twenty six visited numbers worth three point six three million.
That average is about three thousand, seven hundred and seventy
four per visitor. Thirty six thousand times three seven seven
four equals one hundred and thirty six million. But these

(30:02):
are the highest spending food tourists, so the return will
be higher. So the six point six point three million
over three years and the upside is one roughly one
hundred and thirty six million dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Pretty good spend. I was just this Texter. I've just
done the quick mass on that alone. So that's a
twenty two hundred and sixty six percent return on that
six million. If there's one hundred and thirty six million spent,
that is good times, is it? What do you say, Mark.

Speaker 8 (30:30):
Just wrecked my argument?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Oh? Repeat it. It's worth repeating, it's worth elaborating on. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (30:38):
Now, I've just had family over from France, lucky enough
to have a daughter in law who's French, and they
came here and they were just genuinely blowing away by
the quality of the food here. They spent a lot
of money. They've come with the euro which is worth
a lot of money here, and they hired cars and
stayed in places and went and saw things and went

(30:59):
to a lot of food places. And why would you
not trying to promote that. I mean, all we all
need money turn over here in this country at the moment.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
That's instant because obviously the French are no slouchers when
it comes to food. In fact, they're the top of
the top. So what do they like about our food?

Speaker 8 (31:18):
Just the freshness and quality of it. I mean, we've
really picked up at a game. I think we've got
some really really good restaurants around the place. I'm fortunate
enough to live in Hawk's Bay and we've got some
lovely restaurants.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Absolutely, Yeah, some of the best in the country. It
is interesting because you know, they tried to do this
in Saudi Arabia earlier this year, and Michlin didn't hand
out any stars there. So when we decided to do
this and invite them here and they were scooting around
the country.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Be interesting to know what they look like.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
I'd love to know what they dress up as, you know,
how they dress because they go into the restaurants completely unannounced. Yes,
they'll go most multiple times, and they pay for their meals.
So they're traveling around the country, these inspectors, so it
would just be so interesting to know what they were
that they don't attract any attentions incognito. Yeah, yeah, but

(32:13):
I've lost the train of thought there. What was I
trying to say? It was something very very exciting.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
It was it was profound, it was game changing. But
just on that, you know, on the French, you know,
they were surprised. Do you think that is the perception
of some in the world, because I was just trying
to articulate this, and my impression is there's a lot
of people around the world. They look at New Zealand,
lovely country, great rugby team, but I suspect for a

(32:38):
lot of people they think our infrastructure is a little
bit behind the times, and they might think, you know,
when it comes to food, where can I go? Is
it just sort of cafe dining? Do they really have
restaurants that are open at reasonable times? And this to
me would be a game changer. But would that perception
be fair mark for a lot of people around the
world that when they look at New.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
Zealand, I say, definitely, But we've picked that game up
the last last years. I think We're getting just better
and better, and there's there's a real food culture out there,
and get it's been embraced to you know that here
in the Hawk's Bay they're very fresh food orientated and
very good butchers through to very fresh fresh produce. It's

(33:17):
just it's changing, and yeah, why not go with the
change and create work.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Good on your mark so that you go some some
French Larrouz comes to New Zealand being impressed by a fear.
But I think you're right, And maybe that was the
great point I was trying to make that I forgot Tyler,
but it was I think it was an acclaim. But
I think you might look at New Zealand and go
adventure tourism, beautiful scenery, but you know, you're in the
middle of the South Pacific. Is the food going to
be that good? And if you're going to spend a

(33:46):
lot of money, if you're a high end tourist, you
want to know that that you're going to go down
there and you're going to experience all that fantastic scenery
and you're going to have incredible meals.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah, get wined and dined.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
That's that you want to know that you absolutely want
to want to know that, But that wouldn't That isn't
what we're synonymous with. We are synonymous with great produce, yes,
and our clean image, beautiful scenery, vent to tourism, but
not necessarily fine dining.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Yeah, what do you say? I eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is ten to two.
We'll be back very shortly. Nineteen nine two is a
text that was a great point of mine.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Good work mate, Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls
on Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath
and Tyler Adams afternoons.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
NEWSTALGSB News talks THEREB. It is eight to two. We're
talking about the Michelen Stars that have been awarded to
fourteen different restaurants, fifteen stars all up, and one hundred
more than one hundred restaurants around the country have been
recognized as well. So is that a positive or do
you have a problem with the government spending the six
point three million dollars to make it happen? I wait,

(34:52):
hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call and Marie,
how are you hey?

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (34:56):
How are you very good? What's your thoughts.

Speaker 15 (34:58):
Oh, I just love this whole idea. It's just fantastic.
I have been to a number of the restaurants that
either got one star or I haven't needed the two
star one. But I think what we're all missing is
there was also the Selected list, and that the B
List that had a lot of other great restaurants on
it that may not have been like Michelin star standard,

(35:18):
but they offer something different. You know, you've got the Kasidal's,
the Cassias and Auckland or bi Anchor and alis Lee,
all these sorts of things that when you go away
to a place and I use the Micheline Guide when
we've been to Europe a few times I've gone on
our foot, I actually would like to have local foods,
you know, French food or Italian food or whatever, you know,

(35:40):
and you don't know where you're going, whether you're going
to turn up there and it's got some Asian fusion
thing going or whatever else. The Michelan Guide is really good,
so to be in it. And for people traveling to
New Zealand who just want to go and have maybe,
oh let's have some wild meats somewhere. Well, you know,
Cazidal does wild meat for example. I'll go out there.
You know, it's really really good for the whole hospitality

(36:03):
scene in New Zealand, and you know, hopefully they'll expand
it to the other regions because I think everyone says,
you know, maybe Mulborough, you know, they've all got wonderful restaurants,
but this is a start, and it's just incredible.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
But it really is so true.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, so true about that. The one hundred other restaurants
that have had effectively the highly commended there is a
name that they call it, the Big Command Award. But
just having that in your window, you know, if I'm
walking past one of those restaurants and I see that,
I'm swinging in for sure.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (36:32):
So yeah, it's good for the whole industry, I believe.
And like you know, people or every person who works
and he wants to aspire to something, So why shouldn't
hospitality have something.

Speaker 7 (36:41):
To aspire to as well? So good good on.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Them, Yeah nicely, said A Marie. Thank you very much
for giving us a call.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
We're a good and caring country New Zealand. We spend
a lot of money looking after the unfortunate. We all
wish there was no need for food banks, but we
do spend more per head than nearly any other country
in the world on the disadvantage. But we're also a
country that excels at hospitality. In fact, across the board,
we excel in a number of regions. We are a

(37:11):
country capable of excellence, and those succeeding need to be
supported too. It grows the economy, it makes us proud,
and it gives our young people something to aspire to.
Tourism is a huge part of our economy and we
want high end tourists coming here and spending their money
for the good of all of us, from the top

(37:32):
to the bottom. So I think the celebration of excellence
with the Mischelin Stars is just such a great thing, and.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
We should feel very very proud of all these restaurants
that have been acknowledged. Yeah, we've got to back ourselves,
and if you walk past one of those restaurants, make
sure to go in there and celebrate and spend some money.
And that's what makes you zealing great. You know, let's
back ourselves and promote these awesome restaurants. Because what a thing.

(38:02):
Great discussion. Thank you very much everyone who called and text.
Coming up after two o'clock Dry July. It is the
first of July right now, So Dry July. Are you
getting on the bandwagon with giving up alcohol for a month.
If you are, what are the reasons that you're getting
on board? Or if you've done it previously, how did
it go for you? Tell us? So undred and eighty
ten eighty is that number to call in the tics.

(38:25):
New Sport and Weather with Wendy Petree is coming up.
You're listening to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Hope you're
having a great Wednesday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Afternoons News Talk SAIVY.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Three good afternoons here, Welcome back into the shel It
is six a past two on July the first. Where
has the year gone? They say, which means, of course,
there's many people getting involved in dry July. That is,
of course, abstaining from alcohol for the next month. So
it is particularly easy for some people out there, but
others find the old zero sum approach punitive or unrealistic

(39:33):
and wish for other ways to reset their relationships with
booze over this particular month. There is another movement rumbling
through the wine world at the moment. So they are
calling it drink less but Drink Better, so effectively that
means it's a strategic way to re examine the role
that wine plays in our lives. But buying good quality,

(39:54):
local wine rather than smashing a couple of bottles of
the cheap booze that's on offer.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, I mean, has beinge sobriety a good idea? I
love the raising money for charity part of the of
you know, Drive July. You know, and if you're doing
it for a challenge to raise money, good on you.
But do you think it will change your habits long term?
I'm at Dry July website and it says the benefits

(40:20):
of taking part in Drive July. The best part about
taking put and drive dely is that you'll be raising
funds to improve the comfort, care and well being of
people affected by cancer.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
That is a great part of it. Great cause.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
On top of that, you'll also experience some great health
benefits such as more energy, improve mental health, sense of achievement,
healthier skin, better sleep, clearer head. Has anyone done Dry
July and that has changed their drinking habits? I wonder
because I know a lot of people that have done

(40:51):
dry July and they hold on and then they have
an equal and opposite reaction to drive July. So first
of August, oh my goodness, get into it, make up
for lost time, chunnying all over the shop, just a bit,
go hard. But yeah, so I mean by all means,

(41:12):
go hard to help people you know that are affected
by cancer.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Fantastic?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
But is that the way to if you think that
you have a problem with alcohol, if you think that
alcohol is.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Detrimental in your life. Some people don't.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Some people are just happy with their amount of drinking.
Some people don't drink. Some people drink a little bit yep,
and they're happy with it. Some people drink a lot
and they're happy with it. But there are people out
there that go, I need to drink less. It's causing
problems in my life. I'm drinking too much. Right, So
as taking a month off the way to do it?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you've
done it?

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Or is it better to subtly change your habits such
as you know, how did you describe it?

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Tyler? Hold on?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Let me just get the official campaign that's taking the
wine world by storm.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Drink less but better so better quality. So spend more
on the same amount, really drinks effectively so you get
better quality wine. But then how you consume it as well,
instead of consuming it by yourself or just with your
husband or wife or whoever, that you get a lot
of people around and you you savor the experience in
a social setting. You go down to your local restaurant,

(42:20):
to your local bar, you ask for the house wine
or something a bit better than that house wines is
you're not the great ones, that's your idea of classy
spinning a bit, it's a mate, I'll ask for the
house wine rather than b wayoing a cask of country red.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Perfect.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's it is an interesting one.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
And I also wonder if it when it comes to
dry July.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
What when I've just spent the last hour talking about
Michelin Star restaurants and hospitality in New Zealand hospital and
how it's how it's going, I wonder if they appreciate
midwinter cack and the nuts that you could argue drive
to lay is it's.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
A good point because this originated in North America. Yeah,
and so that was the summer where they go and
dry July. And I know hospitality needs summer as well,
but that's traditionally the month where you don't have to
worry as much.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So the hardest time in New Zealand for hospitality is
probably July August.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Someone someone could tell me on our eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and drive, July comes along and goes, you
know what, let's let's let's get a bunch of people
not spending.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, if you're in hospow, how do you feel about dryly? Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty And if you're doing it
at the moment, why are you doing it? And if
you've done it in the past, what sort of changes
happened for you? Tell us your story. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 10 (43:39):
It?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Is?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Eleven past two?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Has text said? Did it last year? Kept drinking the
whole time? Lied collected the money? Does that make me
a good person?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Ooh, just have to weigh that up, Marley. Yeah, that
is a conundrum, that one.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, I'll mold that one over. Its eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Your home of afternoon Talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
She got a todder at home. Don't stand for that crap?
Yeah she is. She took no prisoners last night.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I wonder if I can get away with that. I've
got a sixteen year old sonnet hunt. I can't handle.
I can't handle this crap.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I'm going to count to three three two one the
Greater diview go give it a listen, right, it is
fourteen past two. We're talking about dry July. If you're
doing it this year, we're keen to hear why. Nine
two nine two is the text number, and.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
The six is how much of drygilized profits go to cancer?
How much goes to the people running it? I don't
know's that's that's an interesting question. I've got no idea.
He can you find that out?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
We might try and get ahold of someone from dry
Toaly and have a chat with them.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
This text is said, I have been on a pretty
wild bender since dry July last year. I got the
third of a demon. I got the first of a demon.
A right, they've written, I got the third of a demon.
So it was it like just a tail and just
thirty three percent tail and its leaves and something. I
got the first of a demon. To be honest, I

(45:01):
was on a bender up till that Drijuly, so a
month in the middle of a bender.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Okay, right, but bender on either side a bit different.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
That's another challenging text here, skin my ass, I got
zits doing it last year, all right, okay, right, so
not skin my ass. That's saying the benefits are healthier
skin from taking a month off drinking for Drovedly, so
not actually saying to skin their art.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, okay, very right, thank you, very texts Dan, welcome
to the show.

Speaker 16 (45:28):
Hey it's all good.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, good mate. So you're doing drijerly.

Speaker 16 (45:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm on a bit of a healthcare
just started back at the gym today and thought might
as well give that a nudge as well. I'm not
a drinker during the week, but a pretty heary drinker
on the weekend. So the week will be fine, but
the weekend's going to be interesting for well, for the
family more than me.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Why is that what?

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I'll be more interesting for the family than you did.

Speaker 16 (45:56):
Oh, you know, it might be a bit of a
grumpy beer for the first weekend, right, Yeah, I mean
I was probably on a Friday night, I would say
I'd drink six or seven seven fifty million bottles. Wow,
So I prefer the prefur the bigger bottles.

Speaker 6 (46:12):
And are we talking?

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Are they four percenters?

Speaker 16 (46:14):
Then Coopler's green mate four point nine?

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
See that's six or seven seven fifties.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
That's that's a good nudge. That's a that's a decent nudge.
And so did this time out? So you were going
to go into health cack and join the gym and
then realized it was July and thought, your dad drive
yourly into the mix.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Is that how it worked out?

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Pretty much?

Speaker 16 (46:37):
Yep, yep. I started back at the gym at five
o'clock this morning on the treadmill. So I got a
bit of a growling from the doctor. Pree diabetic, So
I need to change my ways. And I thought, first
jis a good day to diet. My wife said what
dry July? I said, bless you think very much, And yeah,
well we'll check off and see how it goes. I'm

(46:59):
hoping she had a few kilos and senerally feel better
about that myself.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Have you taken a month off before dan and in
your in your drinking career, if you if if that's
the right word for.

Speaker 16 (47:13):
It, probably when I was twelve, No, no, no, I've
grown up around alcohol, rugby clubs. It's been a constant.
But it's never been a problem of that. You know,
that's probably typical Kiwi mail. Maybe maybe four probably is
more of a problem than I think it might be.
But I guess that next month will we'll prove that, right.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yeah, And so the problem for you is primarily weight gain,
am I right down?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (47:45):
Yeah, yeah, definitely rather the tummy for sure.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
So you're not a drinker that gets yourself into trouble
on the booze.

Speaker 16 (47:53):
Not anymore, Malee. I'm forty six, got kids, Yeah, been there,
done that sort of thing. But no, nothing nothing that
a lot of Kiwis wouldn't have done, you know, putting
road cones on your head and so stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, And where do you do?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Whether you do you're drinking, you know on a Friday
night when you have these seven what is it? Seven
seven fifties and four point nine per I'll.

Speaker 16 (48:16):
Start at the pub after work and then and then
carry out at home. So I might be two or
three at the pub, normal sort of pines and then
I'll get home and rip into a few big bottles.

Speaker 5 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Well, one of the things with drinking, if you have
a big week, it can fast forward your weekend, though,
can't it, Because you have the drinks on Friday and
then you feel a bit average on Saturday. Maybe have
some drinks on Saturday night, and then before you know it,
you sort of you click your fingers in your back
at work.

Speaker 16 (48:44):
Yeah, one hundred percent, Yeah you nailed it. And yeah,
I coached my son's rugby, so I generally I don't
get hangovers. I'm blessed.

Speaker 6 (48:54):
Well maybe i'm so.

Speaker 16 (48:57):
I'm sort of up at seven and more on a
Saturday getting ready for rugby. But I won't I mean,
I won't lie. Saturday afternoon can be chilling out on
the couch next to watch some rugby or you know,
watch the football, and then go four o'clock. I've done
my jobs, crack a beer.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
You know, are you going to stay away from the pub, Dan,
or you'll still go down there and what just have
a zero beer?

Speaker 8 (49:23):
No.

Speaker 16 (49:23):
I think I'm the sort of character that probably just
needs to stay away for the next month, which is
no problem. It'll be good for my tummy and good
for the wallet.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, oh well, you sound confident at two nineteen pm
on July one, are you you know? I think I
think you can do it. You've got you've got the
sound about you. You know that you've had the warning
from the doctor and you're at the gym first thing
this morning. I reckon, I've got faith in you, Dan,

(49:51):
But what about after that? What about August one?

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Mate?

Speaker 16 (49:55):
It's well for the next month, it's all planning, so
you know, idle hands right. If I'm not doing anything
on Saturday night, I'll reach for the bottle. So we've
got plans for this weekend. We've got school holidays coming up,
so I'll plan a bit more stuff with the kids
to stay out of it.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Later.

Speaker 16 (50:14):
You know, I'd rather be out there doing something with
the family where I can't drink because i'll drive August
the first. I don't know. We'll see how things go,
but if it makes a significant change and I'm feeling better,
I don't see the reason why I go back to it,
to be honest.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Oh good luck, Dan, great, you know, good on you
for giving it giving it a go, and thanks so
much for giving us a call.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
He's got this, as you say, he's just got to
get through Friday. That first Friday, I imagine might be challenging.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yeah, well he hasn't even got through Tuesday yet, so
there we go.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, all the best.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I've got faith in Dan.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yeah, oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If
you like Dan and you're giving dry July a crank
king to hear it, why give us a buzz on
e one hundred and eighty ten eight If you want
to send tex nine two nine too, And if you've
done it before, how did that change your life for
better or maybe for worse? Tell us it is twenty
one past two.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Disgusting, since this Texter there are no benefits at all,
and alcohol, the fact anyone drinks that ever at all,
revolts me pathetic.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Right do you agree with that person? Tell us nine
two ninety two Back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call, Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on youth Talk said b.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Twenty three past two. It is dry July. It's on
it's the first of July. So if you're doing it,
why tell us so eight, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty And if you've done it before, how did it
go for you? This texta is Matt, it's Wednesday. What
did you say Tuesday? It's a very good point. It
is Wednesday. Yeah, good point. I've lost to day. Yeah,
where is the week?

Speaker 10 (51:41):
God?

Speaker 2 (51:42):
You keep those ticks coming through?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Did I say tuesday as well?

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Feels like a Tuesday? What does it feel like a Tuesday?
I feel like a tuesday? Yeah, A couple of ticks?

Speaker 17 (51:51):
Here?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Are this one? Get our guys? In no way, I'm
doing dry July. Best part of the week is a
bear on a Friday with the boys. We all work
stressful jobs and it's our one afternoon we all hang
out as a large group in debrief.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
This Texas, says Barry Sopa is not a toddler, smiling
all right, So that's related.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Oh okay, I can where you're coming from. Very good, Jimmy,
how are you man?

Speaker 10 (52:14):
Right?

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah? Good goods? So what's your story?

Speaker 6 (52:18):
Jumped the curve.

Speaker 18 (52:18):
I've just done dry tone.

Speaker 6 (52:20):
I'm on my way to the bottle shop as we speak.

Speaker 10 (52:22):
So excited, right?

Speaker 6 (52:24):
You who the early bait?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Being the wife?

Speaker 6 (52:28):
He thought, well, it's pretty boring.

Speaker 18 (52:30):
Least just get it done. Managed to survive the whole
a whole thirty one days with that draft, thought about
it lots. I've got a whole new appreciation to the
black Cats after watching them finish off England over the
weekend completely.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
So, wow, you have experienced all of it. So let's
go through some of the some of the things you experienced. Jimmy,
are you experienced? Did you did you get more energy?

Speaker 6 (52:53):
More energy?

Speaker 18 (52:54):
I've lost out five kilos. The dog loves me again.
We've found some new walks which are fantastic. Nice waking
up in the morning and not feeling like us on
the way to work. Sleep to win all round asleep
it's bitter sleeps.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Yeah, healthier skin, has your skin looking.

Speaker 18 (53:11):
Jimmy, mate, I'm feeling moist.

Speaker 16 (53:14):
I've got to say moist.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Okay, that sounds good. Maybe not really what I asked.
But Jimmy, so you're quite a big drinker.

Speaker 18 (53:22):
Well, I'd like to say it pretty consistent.

Speaker 16 (53:25):
Yeah, you know, the weekends have to get longer and
longer every week.

Speaker 18 (53:29):
Friday tunes into.

Speaker 10 (53:30):
Thursday, tubes into Wednesday, and the next thing.

Speaker 18 (53:32):
You know, it's plenty five days a week but try
and get it to the weekends and make the most
out of it, but certainly have a new appreciation of
how much money your bloody waste.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Yeah, but it sounds like you've done a month, but
you're off to the bottlestore right now, so it sounds
like you're not going to continue it on.

Speaker 5 (53:52):
Well.

Speaker 18 (53:52):
Look, you know, it was an anticipation of my brother
in law's fortieth birthday this weekend, so I feel like
I need to get kind of matched but before treating
up in the event.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
Yeah, just in case.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Good on you, Jimmy.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I understand what he means when he says, you know,
Monday tune, it turns into Wednesday, turns into Friday.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
I mean, they're just happened to me. Yeah, spot on exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm sober and I lost Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Jemmy, thank you very much for your call. Liam, how
are you, Johnny? Guys who were very good, So you're
doing it.

Speaker 10 (54:25):
No, So I thought i'd call on because just based
off some of the other responses I was listening to
about like, you know, the effects of drive j ly
and what are some of the positives or some of
the benefits, And I thought it might be best to
just bring up one of my friends who I'm extremely
proud of after having done Dreja light and is still
currently sober.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Well, how long it's been.

Speaker 16 (54:50):
Under a year.

Speaker 10 (54:52):
Following Drigia light. Well, I will say he has it
as off moments after drive to light, but that was
essentially the point that kind of kicked him off to sobriety,
which is a big step in kind of like his journey.
And I thought it would just be nice about to
bring up and be like you know, dry July attacking
it from at least in our public standpoint. You know,

(55:15):
it's it's a big positive, it's a big benefit, and
I think anyone who hasn't done it, that's probably worth
trying at least once in your life, because, man, you know,
the positive benefits not just from you as a user,
but for those around you. You know, I haven't been
more proud of my mate's life, you know, well a
long time, and neither has he. You know, he has
been proud of something that he's truly.

Speaker 19 (55:36):
Kind of like pushed himself to do for like years
and years on end, and like since he has kind
of put down the drink, and you know, He's moved
on to Zerebis and has still drinks, you know, socially
with everyone, but.

Speaker 10 (55:48):
He puts into work and since drive July, he's really
kind of pushed himself to change his ways. And man,
he's looking great. He's kind of coming out of a
shuttle a lot more. He used to be quite reserved
and now has kind of moreable self is coming back.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
It's interesting, isn't it, because you know, you normally only
one of the big fears people have about not drinking
is that they'll lose this sociability. But your mate has
given up drinking and gained sociability.

Speaker 10 (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, this is true, and he, to be honest,
he did use the drink for that reason, right to
kind of come out of his shell more. But I
think that in terms of other issues aside from alcoholism,
he was he had to make the you had to
put his foot down and make the decision be like,
you know, look, that doesn't help any of my other
you know, pre existing issues if I'm to continue drinking

(56:39):
and all of these kind of colliding with each other.
So since he has put that down, he's kind of
slowly come back to himself.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
So would you say that he was an alcoholic or
he had an alcohol problem, because there's a slight difference
before he pecked it in with Joli July Dry July
last year.

Speaker 16 (56:58):
Alcoholic.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Yeah right, just like a family.

Speaker 10 (57:00):
You know, he's been surrounded by alcoholics his whole life.
I personally mean, you know, I've always been doub always
stated away from the drink as much as I could
because of that reason. But him, unfortunately has upbringing, you know,
he kind of got rubbed into it.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
So yeah, well, I mean, I mean, it's one thing
for people to give up for a month if they're
a social drinker, maybe think they drink too much, But
if you're an actual alcoholic with the physical demands for
alcohol that alcoholism comes with, then that's very impressive for
him to cut it off like that and keep, you know,

(57:34):
keep off. So good, good, good on them, man, that's awesome.
I can see why you're proud of him, and I
can see why he's proud of himself.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Or just lost it there, Liam, But thank you very much.
What a great call. So if you like Liam and
you've got friends who had issues with the booze and
they gave Dry July a go, how's it going for them.
Tell us on Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
and nine two ninety two is the text. We'll get
to a few of those very shortly. It is bang
on how passed. We got the headlines with Wendy Peatree
coming up.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
Oh this business says I'm participating in dry July because
I'm pregnant.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Oh it's handy, very handy. Let's enforce that one. That
is very good.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
You've talk said.

Speaker 12 (58:12):
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(58:35):
point three million smuggled cigarettes have been seized, as well
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(58:57):
have just over forty nine days of petrol landed in
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(59:19):
Plus how the All Blacks leadership reset loosens the crusader's dominance.
See Gregor Paul's full column at NZID Herald dot co
dot NZ. Back to Mason Tyler.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Thank you very much, Windy. It is twenty six two
three and we're talking about dry July is the first
of July right now. So if you're on the bandwagon
this year, why give us a buzz on O one
hundred and eighty ten eighty or you can see the
text nine two ninety two.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
The six is I tried dry July five years ago
and haven't drunken any alcohol since since then.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I used to drink two.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Bottles of whiskey every week. Wow, it depends how big
the bottles of whiskey are before we say week. Oh wow,
might be those little hotel ones.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah, that's all right, you can do a couple of those.

Speaker 3 (59:58):
Might be one, one, one, two five, hang on a
minute per week, though I used to drink two bottles
of whiskey every week, not every day. Best decision I
have ever made, and probably would and have achieved it
with the push, without the push to try drive to
light improve my life in all areas, including the bedroom boom,
I give them a taste, get a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Terry, Good afternoon, boys, How are you very good? Mates?
You have done some time offe booze?

Speaker 20 (01:00:26):
Yeah, I've had a few. I love drives and I'm
not I'm not doing this year, but I love it
because it's always room at the bar when I get there,
which is great for those people that are abstaining well.
I think it's a great opportunity for people to have
that I've done them myself this say a few times
over the years. It's a good chance for a bit
of you know what, under under the pressure of self vigulation,

(01:00:47):
you can say, like what the Christian is doing? Lead
of a bit of reflection and and you know, looking
at yourself from a different angle and also looking at
your mates from a different angle sometimes. So I think
it's it's actually a good thing, and it's a good
cause obviously for doing the actual drives alight, so looking
at that side of it as well. But I think
it's a good opportunity to tell you look at yourself

(01:01:08):
and your life choices. And yeah, I applaud those.

Speaker 16 (01:01:13):
That do do it.

Speaker 20 (01:01:13):
It's I don't think you have to do.

Speaker 6 (01:01:15):
It in July. I don't think it should be just
in July.

Speaker 20 (01:01:18):
It could be anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
When you say you have to look at your life,
you know, take stock of your life and never look
at your life choices. What problems to alcohol calls you terry?

Speaker 20 (01:01:30):
Oh my, my dad's in probably will be the main one.
There's a few other ones, you know, it's all in
the bottle. I leave of them on a Christmas.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
On the drinks.

Speaker 20 (01:01:39):
Now, it's just it's it's about okay, how do I
You know, like I enjoy running, so you know I
am I getting the best out of it when I
go out for a run. If I met a big
one on the Friday, well, funny enough, sometimes I have
and sometimes I haven't. But I also as someone. A
couple of callers have said, you ain't feeling a bit
better on a Saturday morning means you've got a bit

(01:01:59):
more time for family. So I wouldn't say they're problems,
but they're they're consequences. And then you know that's way
at because I it I like a good drink and
I have a good time. It's not as if I'm
miserable or getting fights or issues. I enjoy the company
that I keep, and I enjoy the fact that we
drink together and enjoy.

Speaker 17 (01:02:19):
Each other's company.

Speaker 20 (01:02:20):
So but it's funny when I don't drink. Jeez, they
could be a pain in the arse, those voice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Well, yeah, that's That's one of the hardest parts of
sobriety is drunk people and the repeat and the invasion
of your.

Speaker 21 (01:02:36):
Person and glory.

Speaker 20 (01:02:37):
You think, jeez, I don't get her that. Thank God
for that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Well, you know, when when I'm sober and I'm around
my mates, I go, well, this is this, this conversation
is We've had this conversation a thousand times before, which
just gone and repeat from their same same chatsince high school,
just just over and over again. What about your hangovers?

Speaker 20 (01:02:57):
Terry, I don't really get hangovers. To be fair, I've
seasoned myself pretty well. You know, I might feel a
bit rough, but I don't really get really bad. There
was again occasional, but it's not you know, it's all
say that's a chance of self reflection as well, isn't it. Yeah,
you know you've got consequences of your actions and you're
so you know that's your body telling you you've just

(01:03:19):
you're just acceeded my toxicity level of sex.

Speaker 8 (01:03:21):
Bro.

Speaker 20 (01:03:22):
Yeah, there's a bit of punishment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Was the social Westpeake hard terry you need to talking
about both of you are being around drunk people and
your sober which is horrendous. But you know the you
might think I don't really want to go down to
the pub and see the boys if they're on the
booze because it's too hard. Was there any of that
sort of stuff?

Speaker 21 (01:03:39):
Not not red nough.

Speaker 20 (01:03:40):
I mean I still enjoy their company. And it was
just a case of I'm looking at it slightly different
and it was also an opportunity to give back to
be the sober driver, So you got to you'ren look
at the positive side. You know, that's even that's that
it's hard to do the sober driver with a.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
With a view.

Speaker 20 (01:03:56):
You know, there's you've got to look at the positive sides,
you know, say it. It didn't put me off, It
just gave you a different perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I think it's important. We got on your terry
and when's the next month that you take off.

Speaker 20 (01:04:08):
The boot coming months and go back on Saturday down
there during a couple of days a bread.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Yeah, yeah, it won't be.

Speaker 20 (01:04:19):
It won't be dly. It probably won't be August September
before I drunk again September.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
All right, Okay, well we'll get back to us on
that one. It's that's one of the things with when
you decide to take a break from alcohol. There's always
an event. There's always so many events. So if you're
ever going to decide to do it, you have to
just do it no matter what's on. There's always going
to be a big birthday. There's going to be a wedding,
there's going to be you know, the All Blacks playing

(01:04:47):
that you've got tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
To sport to watch. In general, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
There's always going to be events. It just never is
because that's where our society is designed. Yeah, So if
you're going to give up. You're just going to have
to face some events sober.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Do you reckon starting at Christmas? Because that, arguably that's
the hardest month to do it. So if you really
to rip the band aid off, just say I'm going
to quit booze on December and go hell for leather
that all these events come at me, all these opportunities
to drink booze and be merry. Yeah, it's a lot
of fun December when you're drinking. Just for me anyway,
not for my family. They hate it what they hate

(01:05:24):
you drinking or they are drinking. Yeah, I just so.
I don't think they like be around. Really, No, they
love me around sometimes, I ever, but too much red wine? Really? Wow,
I didn't get the old senor those.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
I didn't pick you for a problemlic drinker.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
Hey, pino noir?

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
Are you making people cry?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
No? No, not that far, just more you. Are you
a nasty drink?

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I see No, No, I'm definitely the monkey. I'm not
a lion in any part of my life. I see.
You're a liability. Yeah, I'm a liability. That's okay. The
family knows me well enough by now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
That's that's what I said to my son when he
first started drinking. I said, never be a liability. Don't
be someone else's problem. Never be at the front of
the pack. You know you want to be way back.
You don't want to be the leading, the leading everything,
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I remember that for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
And you don't want to be a liability. You don't
want to be someone else's problem.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, so true. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. If
you're doing dry July or you've taken time off booze,
how's it going for you? Give us a call? Nine
two nine two is the text that is nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Matt Heathan Tyler Adams afternoons used talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Be there's seventeen to three and we're talking about Dry
July is the first of July. It's a big thing
each year that many people take part on. It does
a lot of good, raises some money for charity. But
if you're doing it, why, what is the reason? Or
if you've given up booze for a certain amount of time,
how did it go for you?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
I'm doing dry to life for this Texas says I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
My God, I can't read. Maybe I'm Maybe I'm drunk.
Have you seen me drink? If you had some whiskey today,
I don't remember. Did you have those little bottles that
I didn't even know?

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
I didn't even know it was Wednesday? Maybe I'm drunk.
I'm doing dry July for economic purposes. It takes me
two bottles of smir enough to get the job done.
A month off should dial back the tolerance so I
can cut costs in half when I get back on it.
These are tough economic times. Randy Campbell from Only Hunger. Wow,
interesting text. Thanks for that Randy Campbell.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Two bottles of spin off Randy Campbell.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Wasn't that a fictional character show I made in the
early two thousand?

Speaker 5 (01:07:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
That the very same Randy Campbell. You you're doing well
for himself, Jens.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
I did three hundred and three days off the booze
due to wife going through private IVF treatment, which meant
I had to stay off the booze to get healthy.
Mini Me's under contractual agreement agreement. It was absolutely terrible
at the start, near the finish, and at all social events.
It's fair to say I'm soft and should have rounded
it up to four hundred days and get the next
day decade of July's off. Yeah, that's the social part

(01:07:55):
of it, that is that is difficult. It is difficult,
but nowadays worth zero percent bears. But I've said this
before in the show. When you've got a table of
people and they ordered beers and one of them's ordered
a zero percent, Like I was at the Rugby with
my cousins and I kept going up to the bar
and I wasn't drinking and buying the beers for everyone

(01:08:17):
because I didn't want them to be insulted that I
wasn't drinking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
That's expensive for you. So you're on all the rounds
just for the fact you don't want to wait to
come up and say, so who had the zero? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Yeah, so that I'd bring them up in a glass
and drink mine and everyone was happy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Right yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
But then the waitress came up and said, oh, do
you want another zero?

Speaker 14 (01:08:36):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
No to me, and they're like, have you've been drinking
zeros all night?

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
I was like, lady, you've given the game up rum
but I didn't want to have to have this conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Yeah, So I think that should be in hospitality. You
should be aware that someone drinking zeros and it seems silly,
but it does sometimes make it. People I feel uncomfortable
if they're having a few drinks and one of you aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Yeah, you don't want to make it a thing. It's
not a thing, it's not a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
You don't want to make the conversation for the whole night.

Speaker 11 (01:09:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yeah, So sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
People just don't want the zero to be advertised. Yeah,
And look, I mean I would rather drink anything, but
you know, if I'm not drinking beer, I'm probably prefer
to drink col or something. Yes, yeah, so I'm only
drinking the beer so everyone feels.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Comfortable, exactly. That's a good per say to hospital workers.
Be and how are you?

Speaker 21 (01:09:18):
Yeah, good afternoon, Jance. How are you both?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Very good?

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Now you've been off the booze for well done five
hundred and forty days.

Speaker 21 (01:09:26):
Yeah, five hundred and forty days. I just wasn't even
thinking about it, but I tour in the radio station.
I know who you guys talking about drive your life,
so prompted me to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Give you guys good on your ben What made you
decide to give up drinking five hundred and fifty days ago,
five hundred and forty days ago, I.

Speaker 21 (01:09:42):
Had to I was almost killing myself from drinking. Lost,
almost lost my wife, my kids at employment. So I
got the point where your life was terrible, and I've
turned around and it's the most most amazing thing ever,
things things. So I drank the twenty nine years heavily,

(01:10:03):
So that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
And so just just on a dime on a day
you just want that was that you were over it,
and that was it.

Speaker 21 (01:10:14):
I had to go detops medical detox and that was
a about a week where they bring you off it
so you don't have delirium tremens. I wish I sees it.
And then after that I was away and I just
went to the odd AA meeting and just started focusing
on stuff I always wanted to do but conturks to
drink before and great.

Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Right, So, so, in what specific ways has your life
better been without the booze?

Speaker 21 (01:10:40):
Just around my mates, life's just more vibrant. You don't
I don't get negative for edgy, I don't get depressed, okay,
have better conversations with people, even at parties when people
are drinking. My work's better, my health's better. Wow, like
a life's better, everything's better.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Is there any part of it that you miss?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
Been?

Speaker 21 (01:11:01):
Not at all?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Wow? So this is great.

Speaker 3 (01:11:03):
What an amazing thing that you've done. Some congratulations for
for the.

Speaker 21 (01:11:08):
Challenged the body, but you're still going to damage to
the body. But it's healing, and my brain's healing. I
can kill everything healing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
So so how much.

Speaker 21 (01:11:18):
My wife still has the old wine every night and
my kids have the drinks, but not for me anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
There's some discipline. So how much were you drinking before that? Ben?

Speaker 21 (01:11:27):
I started when I was about seventeen. I'd bringe on
the weekends with mates, and then then I progressed too
in my forties, until about five hundred and fifty days ago,
I was drinking over a letter and a half of
boat crude.

Speaker 5 (01:11:38):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:11:39):
I couldn't function in the morning. It was just totally progressive.
It just went so fast. Years just did and stuff.
I said I'd have to dry July, and I'd go
twenty seven days and then I'd be just the whole time.
My reward at the end to drive July will be
buying a four hundred dollars pot of whiskey. So there's
nothing in it. So but it's just habits and rewiring
the body, getting the system resink, and the don't mean

(01:12:01):
it was recalibrating to normal and their life just bounces back.
So I don't want to preach from the soapbox. This
is my story. And as I said, I got family,
drink and I don't judge anyone.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
So well, God on your bend.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
So what would you be your advice to people that
are going to attempt it? You know, how did what
you do work? Because for some people that doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
Well.

Speaker 21 (01:12:22):
I think if you think you need to take dry July,
you're really thinking about it, then you may have a problem.
And it may not be like a full alcoholic problem,
but it's a penny on alcohol to improve your social
improve your life in certain settings. Then have to think
about that. And if you just want to go off
your own, how have it cracking it? So yeah, it's

(01:12:44):
up to everyone, and I don't judge. If people want
to be moderate and have to class and why not
go for it. But if you think something's not right,
think about it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
So you had the physical so you had to deal
with the physical addiction as well as the mental addiction.
You said that didn't your ben so, so what was
the process to deal with the physical addiction, Because you
at that point you're drinking that much. Your body is
calibrated to need it, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:13:08):
Everybody's depended on it. So I'd wake up in the morning,
I'd be sick, and I'd go to the bathroom and
have a shit over, and else it's getting ready. I'll
be coughing, vomiting, trying to get some alcohol back in me.
And then I'll calibrate and everything would feel good again.
The life would feel curd and then the alcohol we're off,
and I'll start to get shaky and suck, and I'd
be constant, just got bad. So that's the first quarter
of pen it's coming off. The motion or was just

(01:13:31):
is just thinking that life sucks and you just look
around at people and think, man, your life could be
so much better, but you know why it's not at better.
So and then everything else. Alcohol just takes every strips
everything away from you. If you letter so anyway, I
don't want to preach. Guys. Thank you so much, No
good on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
You, Ben, Thank you for your call. Ben.

Speaker 3 (01:13:51):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's inspirational stuff. It certainly is
to go from the position he was in and to
actually be able to turn it around. Some people never menastand.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
Yeah, that's a lot of discipline being well done, mates,
and thanks you, thank you for giving us a buzz.
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call? It is nine minutes to three, the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
That affect you and a bit of fun along the way.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons Newstalks, EDB News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
It'd be it is six minutes to three and we're
talking about dry July.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
A lot of positive texts coming through for Ben's call. Well,
Ben made me think about my alcohol choices. Well, amazing
call from Ben, so humble, Ben, what a man. Totally
made me smile that phone call, being down the same
road four years sober, never looking back. This Texas says, Wow,
fifteen thousand days no alcohol.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
That's impressive. Fifteen thousands. I mean that's your whole life,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:46):
How many how many years in fifteen thousand days? Well, yeah,
that's probably something that hasn't drunk at all. Yeah, well done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty C number two call
if you want to see to text nine two nine
two Garth, how are you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:14:59):
Are you good mate? Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
So, what's your story?

Speaker 11 (01:15:02):
I was just listening to you. What's my story? Oh
you go no, yeah, it just did previously your previous
caller there. I havn't read in the paper today about
being dry July, which I didn't apart from the fact
that it sort of rings the tone and being July
I didn't know too much about. But interesting that I

(01:15:25):
sort of abstained from drinking as of thirty year, thirty
thirtieth of December for the New Year resolution prior to
New Year, didn't go out New Year and from that
point on, so I didn't go out, didn't drink, abstained
from then on right through till probably the end of.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
End of May.

Speaker 11 (01:15:47):
Didn't touch alcohol for about six months. And I've never
really been a serious drinker, apart from beer, which I
enjoy a lot, but not until heavy spirits, as your previous.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Caller may have.

Speaker 11 (01:16:05):
He sort of pointed out, and it was just I guess,
but the same sort of effects, well say effects, yeah,
not drinking the first two months, the first two months
was quite hard for me, and for me it was
having these sort of withdrawal symptoms like headaches and just

(01:16:27):
feeling quite irritable. But after here, probably after about two
or three months, I did, my hip and body seem
to sort of wear itself, and I'm not I guess
the hardest spot I found was that the social side

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of it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Well, yeah, sorry, Gareth, we've got the news headlines coming
and coming and strong. We didn't hear the rest of
your story, but yeah, we can't stop the news headlines coming.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
No, we certainly can't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Definitely, the social side of it does seem to be
a sticking point for people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
It does. If you want to go check it out,
just go to drive July dot co dot n Z.
Obviously raises a lot of money for a good cause
and seems to be pretty helpful for me.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
And fifteen thousand days sober is forty one years, one
month and five days.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
So congratulations to that person. Yeah, go you great discussion.
Than get everyone who gave us a bars and text through.
After three o'clock, we want to have a chat about
mouth taping. We'll tell you maut more about that next
to our news with Wendy coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends, and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Me today to you, welcome back into the program. It
is six pass three. So the term sleep hygiene has
taken the will by storm in recent years. That is
setting things up to have the most restorative sleep that
you can. This new research out that says a big
part of that is having a consistent bed time, which
is just important, they say, is getting enough sleep. It's

(01:18:02):
all about helping the body's internal clock, the circadian rhythm,
improving both sleep quality and overall health. On top of
the building a wine down routine before bed, keeping evening
habits consistent, they say, can all make it easier to
fall asleep and stay asleep long term. But there is
more and more research coming to the fore when it
comes to that term sleep hygiene on the best things

(01:18:22):
you can use for a great night's sleep, including a
lot of noise and research coming out about mouth taping.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah, so I've been mouth taping for a while, you have,
and so seeing this come up in the news today
and it's growth on social media, I'm feeling vindicated because
I've been doing it ever since I read James Nestor
Nesta's book called the New Science of a Lost Art,
So breath, well, breathe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
It's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
The New New Science of a Lost Art by James Nestor,
and he went into to mouth tape a lot. So
it's a great thing to do. It's fantastic. You just
tape up your mouth. It looks terrifying. It does look terrifying,
and you and your missus won't like it. I remember
when you showed that photo of the mouth tape operation

(01:19:12):
and then you had to do not disturb sleep mask on.
There was a few other bits and pieces that you
had in operation.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Was the airplugs? Air plugs? Air plugs. Yeah, so it
was a whole mummy situation going on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Well, I think I mentioned this before I decided to
become a sleep champion. That was my goal, to become
just the best sleeper in New Zealand. Some people aspire
to have a Michelin Star restaurant, you know. Other people
want to put things into space. I wanted to become
the best sleeper in New Zealand. Unfortunately, there's no way
to sort of quantify whether you are or not. But

(01:19:43):
I think mouth tape is a big part of it.
I mean the idea basically is it just forces you
to breathe through your nose, which is a huge, hugely
important thing. And you know we have the saying mouth breather,
but breathing through your nose is just is just so important.
You know, your nose is designed to filter the air,
call it and make it the right temperature before it

(01:20:04):
goes in. You know, mouth breathing is only really for emergencies.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
It's like a slur now, isn't it. Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. If you've got on the mouth
taping train, we'd love to hear from you. Nine two
ninety two is the text. I imagine a lot of
it is about snoring as well, right that if you
tape your mouth, because that's what this article sees a
lot of people talk about. Yep, it's fine getting consistent
bed times and the wine down and all the rest
of it, but snoring, it sears, is one of the

(01:20:30):
top reasons people don't get enough sleep, whether it's their
own snoring or certainly their partner's storing. So if you're
taping your old gobba going off to sleep, that's going
to make it a lot harder for that person to snore,
particularly those god awful snores. Yeah, and people go, oh,
I'm taping my mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
That's dangerous. What if I can't breathe? You don't actually
have to do much to keep your mouth closed because
it's naturally sort of fits shut. So it's just not
it just sort of stops at hanging open. But if
you use mouth tape and I just use I just
use plasters. I don't care band aids, right, okay, I
don't care. I'm not using anything special.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Nothing fancy yere. But if you if you do want
to open your mouth, you just open it. You know,
it's not you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
You're not taping it such that you can't open your
mouth if you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
It's not a duct tape situation. Yeah, oh a one
hundred eighty ten eighty. So if you have been mouth taping,
how is it going for you? Is it working a treat?
And what else are you doing? When it comes to
the slow so called sleep hygiene, tell Us nine two
ninety two is the text. It is ten past three
US talks, it'd be thirteen past three, So we're talking
about getting the best sleep that you can. It has
been trending for the past a few years. And another

(01:21:38):
thing that has been trending in that realm is mouth taping.
So if you're doing mouth taping, oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty, how's it going? The stick says, what
a load of bollocks?

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Cave Men didn't have mouth tape, so why should we. Well,
they also didn't have blood transfusions, text, no ward hands.
They don't have pants.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
They don't have pants. We had a fur.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Maybe you know you don't want to live your whole
life as a caveman. I mean you can, but you
will have to have on a mammoth skin and find
a cave to sleep in.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
No fancy matress.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
But I think you know they had a lot of things, right,
but we have. Just because they didn't do something doesn't
mean we shouldn't. Humanity has progressed over the years. We've
been to a lot of cool stuff. We've come a
long way, and one of those things might be mouth taped.
Interesting if you read James Nestor's book, he does mention
that that you know, our ancestors had much bigger sinuses,

(01:22:29):
that food processing has made our jaws a lot smaller.
Apparently right according to him, because you know, as soon
as we got processed food, we weren't chewing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
As much too much soft food, so making us weak.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
So our whole breathing area is smaller than it should be. Yeah,
thats the sort of palette area, because you know, you
just we've got soft cooked food, cooked food as well,
not just process food. So cooked food and then processed
food has massively changed the shape of our faces. So
cave men might not have needed mouth tape. Yeah, they
probably had.

Speaker 2 (01:22:59):
Like horse like nostrils for breathing in and out of
it and bed. Yeah, very true. Belinda, how are you hi,
I'm good. How are you very good? So you've got
into the mouth taping.

Speaker 6 (01:23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:23:11):
I had been following a few people who have tried it,
and then I thought, why not give it a go
because I snore a lot, and I thought maybe it
might might help with my snoring. But I just found like,
when I was trying to give it, I found it
really it made me feel really claustrophobic having it over
my mouth. I don't know, Yeah, like kind of has
a it has a split in it so you can

(01:23:32):
still breathe. But yeah, I don't know. I just didn't
really like it. I don't know. I help with my snoring, because.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Did you have a slit in it?

Speaker 22 (01:23:40):
It has like a little a little cut in the
middle of it. So I guess if you, I don't know,
to get a block nose, maybe you can still breath.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Yeah, it's not a good idea to do it if
you've got a block nose, or if you if your
nose passages aren't up to nasal passages aren't up to it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
So how long did you try it for?

Speaker 22 (01:24:00):
I tried it for about a week and then I
just ended up waking up and it's kind of feeling
like I was panicking, and then I break the thing off,
So it's kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
A it is kind of an unnatural thing generally speaking,
if you've got something on your face, you want to
get it off.

Speaker 22 (01:24:15):
Yeah, yeah, And I mean I did wake up feeling
a bit better, like feeling like I had had a
better sleep than I would if I didn't mouth tape,
But I just didn't really like the feeling of having
it was in my mouth as such.

Speaker 11 (01:24:30):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
One of the main reasons they say it's good is
because mouth breathing dries out your you know, you use
up a lot of liquid, you dry out you dry
out your mouth, yeah, when you're asleep, whereas you keep
your mouth stays naturally moist if you have it all
taped up. That makes sense, but it only makes a
difference really, So do you think you were a mouth

(01:24:52):
breather Belinda anyway, because if you're not a mouth breather
then oh.

Speaker 22 (01:24:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I do because I snored a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:24:59):
Yeah yeah, So.

Speaker 22 (01:25:03):
I mean my husband didn't notice any difference because he
was asleep, so yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Those things, isn't it? You know, if you're a bad sleeper,
so many of us don't know about it, because you
might be having many wake up times, multiple times during
the night that you wouldn't remember. You know, you're waking
up all these times, and whether that's because you're breathing
awfully through your mouth, I mean it's I think there's
a lot to it.

Speaker 22 (01:25:26):
I thought i'd try and rule it out, but yeah,
not for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Me, all right, all right, see, I love it, you do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
You're a massive, common big fan. But it does make
your partner think you're a weirdo as the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Do you care?

Speaker 5 (01:25:41):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
I tried to buy her proper because I just tape
it up with a band aid, so I tried to
buy her proper stuff to get her to try it,
and I got her on the do not disturb face masks.
She's into that begging to those that makes sense very bad.
She just thinks it's weird to put that much, you know,
preparation before you go to bed.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
But isn't it the most important thing you're doing in
your life? That's my argument. You know, you're there for
seven to eight hours.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
We do all these things about, you know, the daytime,
but your sleep is so very very important. So if
you can do something, just even if it takes an
extra forty five seconds before you go to sleep, put
tape on, put my mask on, putting their plugs in,
make sure that all the little lights in your room
are dealt with, you know, go around with some electrical tape,

(01:26:29):
or as Andrew was saying, took to us before the show,
a little bit of black nail polish, yep, on all
the LEDs in your life, in your room, just so
you're sleeping in darkness. Just put that little effort and
so you have a fantastic sleep. Yeah, the results are great.
Everyone knows if you want to lose weight, you need
to get a lot of sleep. It's great for your
mental health. It's you know, great for you for your

(01:26:52):
energy levels. Obviously, do you feel a million bucks when
you wake up?

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:56):
So I just say this, and genuinely a lot of
the time when I wake up, I feel like I've
been hit by a truck. And I look like I've
been hit by a truck as well. I mean, maybe
that's it. Like I pooh poohed you on the old
mouth staving. You showed me the photo you look like
a mummy. All this operation going on upstairs, and I thought,
not for me, but maybe I'll give it a crack.
If you're doing mouth taping, love to hear how it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Someone's asking, what's the name of that book you were
talking about. It's Breath The New Science of a Lost
Art by James Nesta, and it's just an investigation right
into breathing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
It's interesting. Interesting. Ready, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is that number to call if you're using mouth tape?
How's it going for you? Nineteen past three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Twenty one pass three and we're talking about mouth taping.
It's a new trend, if you want to call it that,
but it's getting a lot of research behind it in
our search for better sleep worldwide, which has been a
big thing over the past five years. So if you're
doing it, how's it going for you? Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:27:59):
This caller is prompting my point, proving my point that
I would wake up panic that I've been kidnapped. Yeah,
there is a little bit of a vibe that you've
been kidnapping hiftonner in the in the boot of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
A car, right, So you just got to work through
that for the first couple of nights.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Yeah, Brian, you're on the mouth tape.

Speaker 17 (01:28:14):
Hey, guys, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Very good things? Mate? Thanks for calling you on the
mouth tape.

Speaker 17 (01:28:20):
I am, but I don't love it. I know it
a necessity with a wife helping saying, happy wife, happy life.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Very crude. So you're you're you're getting a bit of
a Hong Kong were you big snorer?

Speaker 17 (01:28:34):
Basically? Is I myself? I don't think it works because
I still saw apparently but maybe not as much on that.
But it does, I guess it does help a little bit.
It's not having the dry mouth that sometimes i'd wake
up with. The One thing I really don't like about

(01:28:56):
is that the adhesiveness of it. It's very sticky, and
it just makes my lips and my mouth face feel
very weird. It's like you're having sticky tape all over
your face and then you put it off the next morning,
and boy, do you know?

Speaker 21 (01:29:12):
Do you know about it?

Speaker 5 (01:29:13):
Right? Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Are you using a you know, a brand?

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Because I was just I've just been using band aids,
but you're using the brand.

Speaker 17 (01:29:21):
Yeah, so I use a brand that's promoted on your
on your station as well. I won't say, but it's
heavily promoted on your on your website, on your station.

Speaker 5 (01:29:31):
On that.

Speaker 17 (01:29:33):
Yes ahead to slit in the middle as well, I
guess you know, to stop you if you do need
to breathe, you can a little bit. But apparently I
still snore. Maybe it's not as much, but yeah, on
the I'm trying to keep the peace by using it.
But I'll use anything really I can that makes it
feel better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
But so, what was the ultimator, Brian? Either keep the
mouth tape or yeah, you kicked out of bed?

Speaker 17 (01:29:59):
Yeah, and on those lines, on those lines, on that.
But I've got god heard there's a female version as
well that she uses as well. So it's like, well,
if it's good enough for me, it's good enough for you.
I've heard that conversation. I can't say I hear too
much from her, so maybe it does work for her

(01:30:21):
more than it does for me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
Oh so she's a snorer as well, Brian. Great, correct, Okay,
there you go. Well, glad to hear it's kind of
working out for you, Brian. They just need to go
a little bit easier on the glue.

Speaker 16 (01:30:32):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Yeah, okay, thank you very much for your call. Oh
e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you like
Brian and you're using the mouth tape, how's it going, Tracy?

Speaker 23 (01:30:41):
Oh good, Thank you very much. How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Fantastic? So you're on the mouth tape, Tracy, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
I am.

Speaker 23 (01:30:49):
I'm on a brand that promoted itself that the adhesive
was a good adhesive. It wasn't too too sticky and
didn't rip your lips off when you took it off.
And yeah, and I sort of thought, well, my dog
I woke out one time a dog had slap me
because of or into hearts, really, but I find I

(01:31:15):
sleep better with it, and and I am actually I
lie on my back quite a lot, so I sleep
with my mouth open and my mouth is dry. And
apparently it's really good for bacteria shopping the back breathing
in bacteria, because that's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:34):
What your nose here is afore, and so if you're.

Speaker 23 (01:31:38):
Breathing through your mouth, you're taking in bacteria through your mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Yeah. We've got all those nose heres, haven't we.

Speaker 23 (01:31:45):
Yeah, exactly, that's what they're for to breathe through the nose,
And breathing through the nose is actually better oxygen for you.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
And I do.

Speaker 23 (01:31:53):
I sleep quite a bit a lot better with it.

Speaker 11 (01:31:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
It's also apparently it prepares the ear to you know,
for your lungs in advance. It's a humidifies it and
gets it to the right temperature. This there a whole
lot of heavy lifting done by breathing through your nose
that you just don't get done by shoving it straight
down your mouth pipe.

Speaker 23 (01:32:15):
Yeah right, racy, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. So I did
try one brand first, and the adhesive was really too sticky,
and it felt as though it was taking the top
layer of the skin off. So if you do advice,
some make sure and I can't even remember the name
of the brand. If you do advice, some make sure
that it's sort of like a medical adhesive.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
So it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Yeah, cool, thanks to you, cool trace. See a lot
of people asking about does it work if you've got
a beard or a mustache.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
See I do a bit of stubble there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
The thing is that it doesn't really need to be
that adhesive, and it doesn't need because it doesn't really
your mouth's kind of shut. It's just that it sort
of hangs open, but it doesn't really want to hang open,
so you don't really need to force your mouth to
be you know, it's not like locking it shut like
we had to text a made of mine. This is
from Baden. Made of mine used to get his jaw

(01:33:09):
wide shut so he couldn't eat to lose weight.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Wow, Okay, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Probably he was an alcoholic, so he had to carry
a pair of pliers with him in case he vomited
a jeep.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
It's okay, that's going full noise. So it's a very
very long way from wiring. Yeah, I mean when you
mentioned it This was a misconception I hear because I
thought it was like duct tape right across the mouth.
And I'm just looking at some of these various products
and it's pretty much like you described. It's just a plaster.
There's some ones with the slid in the middle. So
if you're using it, how's it going for you? Oh,

(01:33:38):
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Yeah, and the ones like Better Sleep mouth Tape, they've
done all the tech on the adhesive. Yeah, so it
doesn't it doesn't cause irritation and you know, your mouth
can open up and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Yeah, this Texas says get a map. Can you get
a chin strap that keeps you gob shut if the
adhesive is unpleasant? That's from Alex.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I've seen that online. I've seen like these big things
that people strapped right around their head.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Right. Yeah, so you can, but it's the next step up.
Keep those calls coming through on oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty, and if you want to send a text,
there's plenty coming through. Nine two ninety two is that number.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
This text asks Matt, would you be willing to tape
up your mouth in the afternoons?

Speaker 8 (01:34:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
I could do that, could tape up my mouth for
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Yep, we'll see how that works. What if we do
both do.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
It breathing through my nose?

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
It's good for you.

Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I'll keep a lot of side behind it. Yeah. I
mean there's a lot of positives and I wouldn't be
talking so much on the mic, so it'll be one
for me and one for the listeners. Maybe. At twenty
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Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Thank you very much. When it is twenty eight to form.
We're talking about mouth tape. It is something that's gaining
a lot of traction around the world.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Loop air plugs are great for the non snoring partners,
says this tech. Yeah, it's funny because I never got
on the mouth tape because of snoring. I got it
to make me breathe through my nose. This Texas says.
My daughter, who is a dentis says mouth breathers have
worse teeth, bacteria and plaque. The other thing I'm doing.
I forgot to tell you about the other part of

(01:36:25):
my regime. I've also got a nasal opener. So you
put this tape on and it opens up your nostrils, right,
and then you're cover your mouth, put in your loop,
ear plugs put on you do not disturb imask, and
you've become a sleep championp You've taped up all the
led You've got the blackout curtains.

Speaker 2 (01:36:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
I mean, your partner's not that keen to make out
with you, but.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
You get a good sleep. Yeah, you can always do
it in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
I look at this, Richard, You're involved in bitter sleep
mouth tape your developer?

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Is that correct?

Speaker 7 (01:36:56):
How's going? I founded it?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Ah, there you go. Will you're a good person to
talk to you about it.

Speaker 7 (01:37:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:37:02):
I mean, I think probably a very smaller story to
a lot of people. I read the book brief about
years ago. My sister had at a beach house over summer.

Speaker 7 (01:37:13):
She passed it to me.

Speaker 24 (01:37:13):
Yeah, she said, you should read this. It's it's it
should be really boring.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
But it's actually great.

Speaker 5 (01:37:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:37:18):
It was the chapter of mouth taping. I've been kicked
out of my bedroom by my partner's the story for years,
and so that night, well I could find a sellotape,
so I put slotape over my mouth. It lasted about
an hour, but I didn't snort that hour. Then I
used xtre tape, but at that time there's nothing commercially available.
So I started developing the tape, and.

Speaker 8 (01:37:38):
I think you guys are right.

Speaker 24 (01:37:40):
The adhesive is the hardest, but I figured out pretty
quickly what we wanted it to be in terms of
it had to be breeable, so the more you stretch it,
the more ear you can get through, so that you're
training yourself to keep your mouth sharpened to breathe in
your nose. You don't want a hole in the tape
because that defeats the purpose and you don't need it
if you make it breedable. But I think some of
the issues that people run to is adhesive is on

(01:38:02):
your skin for a long period of time, but the
more sticky it becomes, so we disc it that the
way to get off in the morning isn't to take
it off with your hands, it's actually push it off
with your tongue, and the saliva actually completely negates the
adhesive and it comes off as if there's nothing there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:19):
All right, how long did it take you to work
that one out, Richard?

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
It took too long that if I'm honest.

Speaker 24 (01:38:28):
And then we've actually just developed a new one, which
is which has collage on it, that is will be
in installs this week and it's available on light moment.
So we made that with even softer adhesives and it's
got collagen ale vera vitamins in it, and we put
extreme amounts as much as we could put onto each patch,
so you actually wake up in the morning and after

(01:38:49):
a few days you can really feel the difference around
your lips in your mouth. So we're trying to get
away from the We use a very a medical grade adhesive,
it's called Hinkel out of Germany on all of the tapes,
but with the alo vera in the collage, and we
can make the ahesive even softer, and that one has
absoute you know, Lunt, it can't be ben you residue

(01:39:09):
it all on your mouth in the morning, So it's
it's it's just brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
And do you recom mean, like because I'm using a
nostril opener as well, Like, yeah, are you guys doing
those yeah, we do.

Speaker 17 (01:39:21):
We do two types.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
I think absolutely.

Speaker 24 (01:39:22):
What once your mouth is shut, then you may as
well maximize the amount of boxing you're getting in. And
so yeah, we do. We redesign the shape of them
so that so that the adhesive ones that stick over
you your nose work better. And then we've got sort
of the Rolls Royce, which is we call magnetic Breathe band,
which is.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
A stick band.

Speaker 24 (01:39:41):
Yeah, so we use we have to hand finish our
magnets the patches because it's so strong that machines can't
finish it. And so the magnetic stick on the outside
the nostrils and onto the band and it pulls your
nose and exectly the right place to open up as
wide as possible. So we should record people when they
try it for the first time. Most people just laugh

(01:40:01):
because it feels like they couldn't breathe before once they
feel the difference with it with their nose open.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
So how long ago did you start this company, Richard?

Speaker 24 (01:40:10):
About eighteen months?

Speaker 8 (01:40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
Wow, considering the growth you've seen, I mean that's saying something, right,
the amount of people that are looking into the nose
breathing and particularly the snoring and reaching out for products
like yours.

Speaker 24 (01:40:25):
Yeah, it's gone really really well, and we got picked
up early on by Chemistry. Wearehouse and Uniquem and Life
Pharmacies here and we're now in Australia and we'll be
in Abu Abu Dhabi and Dubai pretty soon. So I
think the thing is on.

Speaker 7 (01:40:39):
Customer number one.

Speaker 24 (01:40:40):
Everything has to be used on me first, so I'm
a pretty tough customer, so everything has to be has
to be perfect. So theory, if anybody has any issues
with it, just reach out to Lusso and.

Speaker 7 (01:40:52):
We've sort everything out.

Speaker 24 (01:40:53):
But it's it's amazing I think for me sleeping with
my mouth closed now. For years I had dry lips.
I used bliss sticks of like an alcoholic hiding alcohol
everywhere but with bliss sticks, and now I bete have
to use it. And I think it's just purely because
I'm bringing through my nose at night, so my mouth
isn't drying out, my lips aren't drying out. It's just

(01:41:14):
it feels all to me. If I forget the mouth
taped somewhere in the morning, I feel a little bit
as if I've been drinking, and it's purely the dehydration.
Once you're used to mouth taking, you just it's that
dehydration is gone, so you just feel so much better.
I don't wake up overnight to drink, so therefore I'm
actually I was sleeping through the night, So it's you know,
I'm a massive convert, and I'm really not the sort

(01:41:36):
of person that you would typically think would get into
this sort of thing. But it just works so well
because I couldn't find even commercially available. That's why I
started it, And during the time that I was developing
it, it took a long time to get it right. In
that time, a few popped up, but we're still believe
it's nothing that's as good as our globally.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
To be honest, I love that you read a book
at your sister's back and then you start a company.
That's a great story. Hey yeah, Richard, do you have
any stats on diminishing amerous activity in the bedroom from
people like Melworth all the mouth and those and face
gear on and your partner.

Speaker 25 (01:42:09):
Jeez loser, Nothing exactly, but I hear that they're not
seeing as many, you know, the potential things that people
might use.

Speaker 24 (01:42:21):
Alongside other rather than outakes in the bedroom.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Okay, it just takes a bit of planning.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Mates.

Speaker 3 (01:42:26):
Yeah, what about what about ear plugs? That that's another
part of you know, like the whole the whole sleep thing.
There's so many elements to it, right, Breathing through your
nose as.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
A good one.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
There's there's the eye masks, so you know, you know
you're not having the light, but also if you can
block out the hearing. I mean, are you an advocate
of that of of you know, you know, all those
different kind of things.

Speaker 24 (01:42:50):
Richard, I think my mind pretty racist at one hundred
miles an hour. So I often if I wake up
and just need a little bit, I'll listen to the
podcast for a couple of minutes again overnight, So I'm
a big advocate. I think of having everything silent. I
haven't found any ear plugs that I actually think are
really comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
So that's, yeah, potentially maybe something we could do. But
for me, I think sleep is the foundation of health. Yeah,
you know, we think it was a component of it,
but if you don't, if you're not sleeping. My bathroom
was an investment bankrupt on Wall Street in New York,
so we used to work till two three in the morning,
seven days a week, and it got to the point
where I'd wake up in the morning and I feel sick,

(01:43:31):
and it was just sleep deprobation. So I know exactly
what it's like when you're not sleeping. Well, it's just
it destroys your days.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Good on you're Richard, that's developer of Bitter Sleep mouth
tape and not a paid for situation.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Then nope, he was just listening. We're just talking about it,
that's right. That was a real conversation. What a great
Keywi story.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
Yeah, I love it. I didn't know anything about like that.
So good on your ring in, Richard.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yeah, thank you very much. Just question for you, Matt
he so, no doubt about it. Breathing through you knows
a lot of research on how good it is for
the body, and it's natural. So what do you find
yourself doing that more during the day? You do it
at night, the body's naturally doing it. Does that kind
of just retrain the body? Yeah, so this is why
more during the day.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
To me, Tyler, So, I used to struggle when I
was running to breathe through my nose when I was running,
and you know, I enjoy a run, Yeah, a long
run you do, and through breathing through my nose at
night and then trying to Now, after a couple of years,
I can now run and just breathe through my nose,
and it's so much bit, especially in the coldiear. If
you're running and breathing in through your nose, it's just

(01:44:32):
just a much. But that takes a while because you're
not feeling like you're getting enough oxygen in. Yeah, but
now I am.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Now I can.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Now I can run and only breathe through through my nose,
and if I get really really shagged, I kind of
do a hybrid nose and mouth situation.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Nothing wrong with that, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
Over the last year, no, a couple of ka's of
e race or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Yeah, it happens to most of us.

Speaker 3 (01:44:51):
But yeah, so just in my life, yeah, it has.
It just makes you naturally breathe thro your nose, which
is a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
That's a massive mouth breather is an insult, it is yeah,
messive flur right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've got onto the mouth tape train, how's it
going for you? Tell us? And to ninety two is
the text number. Fellers. What a load of rubbish.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
A bottle of whiskey gives you a good night's sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
Okay, good on your Donald. It is nineteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
A fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heath and
Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Youth Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
There's sixteen to four and mouth taping is trending at
the moment when it comes to better sleep, Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty if you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
It, does the mouth tape work for a person.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
With a beard?

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
Yeah, well, particularly the better sleep stuff does.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
It's designed to be beard friendly apparently. There you go.
You kind of stick it to your lips.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
Anyway, as opposed to you know, you're not covering up
your beard, so you get on those lips there. Yeah right, yeah,
A bunch of people texting through that. Now this is
interesting from you.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
Ian. Yeah, you're sleeping problem.

Speaker 7 (01:45:56):
Yeah, well, I sort of wake up and I don't
think I'm dreaming, but I hit this person lying on
top of me. The reason I'm the reason I'm actually
ringing is to find if anybody else has this such
sort of thing apparition. Yeah, well, yes, and lying on

(01:46:18):
top of me, and so I put the booso into
it and it disappears.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Wow, I've heard this before.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
I've woken up in with just someone directly above me
screaming into my face, and it seemed and it seemed
very real, but then then it disappeared.

Speaker 7 (01:46:37):
Well, the last one I had, oh, well, not last one,
but a while back was the sky was trying to
stab me. He had a knife. Wow, and he's trying
to stab me, and I managed to get the knife
off him. I called out to my flat mate and
and but obviously I wasn't nobody could hear me, and
I wasn't making a sound. But yeah, he was trying

(01:47:00):
to kill me, and I got the knife off them.

Speaker 3 (01:47:03):
So when you say you got the knife off them,
was the did the knife exist when you had it
off them or got off them or when you woke
up there was no knife?

Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
Yeah, there was no knife, no person.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
So is the last ye last one?

Speaker 5 (01:47:16):
You go?

Speaker 7 (01:47:17):
The last one? It was just last night I had
this girl And that's always a male, but this one
was a girl. And she was waving two hankies, one
on each hand and waving there and smiling at me.
And I asked her, I said, well, what's your name?
I said, my name is Ian and and your.

Speaker 3 (01:47:38):
Name I oh, no, you said your name is Ian?

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:47:41):
Sorry, yeah, I said my name is Ian.

Speaker 5 (01:47:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
And she just laughed and threw the hankies at me
and disappeared.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
So she didn't like the name. Once again, the hankies
weren't there when you woke up?

Speaker 7 (01:47:52):
No, no, And I did look for them, yep.

Speaker 10 (01:47:55):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
Well, yeah, are you worried about it? When you go
to sleeper? You you're worried it's going to happen?

Speaker 5 (01:48:02):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
Does it scare you?

Speaker 17 (01:48:03):
In?

Speaker 7 (01:48:04):
Sometimes I do so sometimes I just so there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:08):
Is there is this you know, it's I think it's
called sleep sleep paralysis, and you know, you wake up
feeling like and it happens to a lot of people
like that, there's a demon lying on your chest or whatever.
And it's apparently, I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I
don't know for sure, but some kind of temporary glitch
where your brain wakes up but your body remains stuck

(01:48:29):
in the rim sleep. So you know, you sort of
you're sort of awake but asleep, if you know what
I mean. Ian, do you think that might be an
explanation for it. Do you do you feel like it's
a mental thing or do you think it's an actual
for want a better word, demon.

Speaker 7 (01:48:48):
It concerns. Yeah, and that's for me to ring you
to say and tell you the story.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much for sharing that
with us. And it doesn't sound like the kind of
thing that mouth tape would.

Speaker 7 (01:49:01):
Solve the main thing that I would like to Does
anybody else experience that?

Speaker 3 (01:49:07):
Yeah, So you should look up online sleep paralysis. I
think it's also called the sleep hallucination sensation and give
that a bit of a bit of a read, because
it does seem to happen to quite a lot of people,
and they do sometimes feel the weight on them. But
it also always seems to be the sensation that is
someone directly above you and on top of you. So
there's there's there's a lot of people that do experience it.

(01:49:31):
So and look that up online sleep paralysis and see
if it's what you're describing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Okay, all the best in Yeah, that's quite full on
ticks there. If you're still there, get a guys backing
you up. Man, It's called sleep paralysis. Tell in to
try sleep on his side. It helped for me, so
the in You're not alone.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
Yeah, when it happened to me, it was the most
terrifying thing in my life. I just I just woke
up and there was this this this sort of ghostly
woman with like gray here, just screaming right in my face.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
And you couldn't move, So you were literally paralyzed. You
knew what was going on, and then you physically couldn't
move and felt like it was wait on me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:15):
Yeah, and I hadn't gone to bed with a screaming
woman with gray hair.

Speaker 2 (01:50:19):
You don't, No, no, nobody wants to wake up to that.
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call, Laurie. How are you good?

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:50:29):
How are you good?

Speaker 6 (01:50:31):
I listened to you guys are raving on it out
this mouth take and I'm going, what why are you
doing this? I've got this little sultan bubble thing there.
You stick your tongue in, and it's a suc int
your mouth, so your tongue stays in there. You don't
even notice it's in your mouth, aren't we? A couple
of times it's like they weren't turning backs. They called

(01:50:54):
it a sleep bubble or something, you know. I don't
know what they're called. But I've had this thing for
years and they first came out they were quite a
hard sultan and they weren't very comfortable. And then I
heard them advertising the new one. I run the map
and I can play about it. They sent me a
free one for nothing, new one and honestly, no mouth tape.

Speaker 5 (01:51:14):
What.

Speaker 6 (01:51:14):
I can't believe you guys have done all this. These
things are there.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
You go, you've got a mouth bubble in and then
you're judging other people for having like you've got a
two hundred dollar mouth bubble in your mouth, and you're
judging other people for buying cheap mouth tape.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Come on each of their own way.

Speaker 6 (01:51:29):
They having to continue buying this mouth tape for the
rest of the lives. Once you buy this bubble, it's
all over.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
God don't want to sleep my tongue into some sort
of silicone bubble before her to sleep. Lorry, you've described
it sounds terrified.

Speaker 14 (01:51:42):
No it's not.

Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
It's really comfortable. They're really fairly efficient and they're amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Honestly, Can you can you text us through a link
to it, Laurie, because I'm trying to find.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
Out a line.

Speaker 6 (01:51:54):
Ye all have to do is googles.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
I have been.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
I've been gurgling sleep bubble and it's coming up with
pictures of people with a snot bubble coming out of
their nose.

Speaker 6 (01:52:05):
It's in the middle of the night. Who's going to
be looking at you, whether we nobody?

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Is like a pacifier, Laurie? Is it like some sort
of pacifier.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
With you?

Speaker 6 (01:52:16):
All it does is that you put your tongue in
it and it just the suction has sucks it's into
your mouth and it's so soft you haven't even though
it's in there. And it's just like a little bubble
that you that your tongue goes into and its your
tongue moving what stocks for storing?

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
Ye, we'll look it up night. Here is the other
name for for what?

Speaker 5 (01:52:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
What was that going through?

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Yeah? I think I found it here we go, okay,
so I'm going to turn it around. I mean, I
wouldn't quite call it a bubble. There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:52:44):
I think that looks like some kind of jellyfish.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Yeah. Look, if you're not getting action with your sleep tape,
you're definitely not getting acted there. There, boy, there's a
mood killer right there. Thank you very much, Laurie. Yeah,
mist as bad as waking up.

Speaker 3 (01:53:00):
Waking up with that in your mouth might be almost
as bad as waking up with some kind of demon
screaming in your face.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Right, keep your teaks come through on nine two ninety two.
It is eight to for.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks, b.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
News talks there be it is six to four. Plenty
of texts coming through. Yet a boys, what was that
sleep bubble called?

Speaker 14 (01:53:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
If you want to go look it up, It's called
a tongue stabilizer device, but I don't know. Laurie swore
by it, but go for gold. I wake up and
oh I can't read that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
I woke up and must stock my cupboard for the bathroom.
Is there any tape to fix that situation?

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
And tried July might help with that absolutely. All right,
that's the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Thank you so much for listening, and thanks for all
your calls and texts. The Sir Paul Holmes broadcast of
the Heathertopless Allen is up next, and be careful she
has three toddlers own.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
Yes, so there's two kids and very sober.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
But right now, my good friend Tyler Adams, why am
I playing this nineteen fifty nine composition performed by the
Dave Brubert Quartet called Take five.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
You've got me? Yes, so take five? Is there any
lyrics in this? I'm gonna try, mate, give me another
twenty seconds Take five argive.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
But because this is the most played song in fancy
restaurants in the world, is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Yes? And fourteen New Zealand restaurants rewarded Michelin stars last night.
I have heard this song dining out from time to time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
It's lovely absolute tune.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
Yeah, that's a lovely, lovely orchestra makes you hungry, doesn't
That certainly does? All right, ladies and gentlemen, you seem busy,
so we'll let you go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:51):
We'll be back live nationwide tomorrow afternoon. Until then, give
them a tastey keiwi from us.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
All right, then, bless watch.

Speaker 13 (01:54:58):
Out for those night terrors.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
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