Full Show Podcast: 01 May 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hello, Tyler, Hello everyone, thanks for joining us. The number
of our weight hundred and eighty ten eighty if I
remember correctly, yep. And I also believe that we have
a text option nine nine two.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Spot on mates. Thank yous, right mate, Yeah, well done.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Loud started the one o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Absolutely, you have right. We've got a big show for
you today because it is a Friday. It's something we
bestow at the end of each week. The moment you
all wait for New Zealander of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Everyone is waiting to hear the news Leander of the week.
They said about the Mat and Tyler Adams Afternoons on
News Talks, he'd be New Zealand of the Week. You
won't have to wait too long because around three thirty
will tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Yep, yep, even but who will it be?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Man, that's exciting that is coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
There's been so few contingents, there's been heaps.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
There has been heaps, So looking forward to that after
three thirty. Also, a little bit later that hour, we're
going to cad Scharp with renowned musician Greg Johnson. He
is coming back to New Zealand for a nationwide tour
in celebration of his sixtieth birthday. Reason that guy is sixty.
He's still in good nick. He's thirty hard in his day,
so I hear yeah, old Greg Johnson.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, he's got a real cocktail vibe, hasn't he. He
does classy sort of cocktail piano playing vibe well due
to the fact that he plays a piano, yeah, and
drinks cocktail.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's got a lovely hat.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
What's that song? First you save the world and then
you save yourself. Yeah, what a message for the time.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
What a great line. So we're catching up with him
a little bit later in the three o'clock hour.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
First you save yourself, then you save the world.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, that probably makes more sense. Yeah, I think there's
a better message there. First you save yourself, then you
can save the world.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Then you save them.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a good line.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And the other way it's what a lot of people
are trying to do. Yeah, very well, trying to put
all their energies towards something they have no impact on,
whilst living their personal life just spiral out of control.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah so true. But he is on the show before
four o'clock will cross them live and LA, so looking
forward to that after two o'clock. Big news today huge
news a widespread outage affecting One New Zealand customers across
large parts of the company at cour It was caused
by a technical issue impacting a rural cell tower, but
in turn disrupted both mobile and broadband services. So around

(02:54):
ninety cell sites were affected and the issue led to
inter mint it connectivity. One New Zealand said for customers
until engineers could restore the service, but so many people
absolutely freaked out. There were headlines I heard from a
few people. Have you lost Internet? And you know the
idea that society starts to break down very very quickly

(03:16):
when you lose the ability to go on the internet
and use your mobile phone.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Absolutely you should be able to go from when you
leave home to when you get home again without having
to communicate with anyone in your family or anyone. Right,
you should should be able to get rid of their
phones for a whole day. Yes, And yet how many
of us, if we left home and we're driving down
the street and we remembered that we'd left our our
phone in the house, would just go to work. None

(03:44):
of us. Nearly everyone would turn around and drive home,
even if it was going to add you know, fifteen
minutes to the commute or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, that pang of anxiety when I realized, oh my god,
I'd own my phone.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
People can't handle it. Yeah, you can't handle well, but
that can't handle being without the phones. Yet, in the
old days, what would happen is everyone would organize everything
they needed to organize for the day before they left home.
So you're not texting your your misses all the way
through the day asking the same question over and over
again about what you're doing tonight, or what you're getting
for dinner, or when you're picking up the cads or
all those kind of things. They were just sorted out. Yeah,

(04:15):
now we just need our phone so we can contantly
and communicate.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Game feels like too much. But we're gonna have a
chat to you about that after two o'clock, because right now,
let's have a chat about whether we are a jitterary,
nervous nation. In an opinion piece former journalist and presenter
Jahan Cassiander he argues that that's exactly what we are.
New Zealand has become increasingly anxious, reactive and emotionally on edge.
We're driven more by fear than can do attitude. He says,

(04:43):
many people often pull the handbrake at the first sign
of risks, stalling businesses and threatening economic progress, and we
see it across the board. Government, businesses, councils often say
things like now is not the right time, or we're
just waiting for things to get a little bit better
before we enact the project we've been planning for some time.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Or potentially the most evil saying in the English language
better safe than sorry, because that only leads to nothing
of the happening. But I've got a I've got a
couple of Australian friends that are successful business people over
here and a couple of American ones, and they say
the same thing when you suggest something in New Zealand,

(05:24):
everyone immediately tries to knock it down and find a
reason why it won't work, and then celebrate that they've
found a reason not to do it.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Just every everything this restling. We can't do that. But
what about this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,
just desperately looking for a way to pour water on
the idea. It didn't used to be like that. New
Zealand used to be famous for being having the complete
other attitude, and then we started hassling people for the
she'll be right attitude. Yep, And so we are not
a she'll be right nation. In any world where she'll
she'll won't be right.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
And what a shame that is. You're so right, you know,
the risk take is in a place like New Zealand
are the ones that don't get ahead. People seem to
not like the risk takers in New Zealand, and why
is that changed? The people that seem to get ahead,
particularly in the likes of government apartment. So those that
just sit in the middle, they don't really do anything.
They're kind of mediocre, but they don't rock the boat.
So they just slowly climb that boring corporate ladder. But

(06:17):
anyone who wants to roll the dice and take a
risk and say we can actually do this a bit better.
Gets ousted out and say no, no, we don't do
that here.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Well, what we certainly see is a lot of surveys
on how confident. We are constantly hearing these surveys, and
then we get very excited. Boy do people get excited
if it's negative. If there's been a negative downturn in
people's confidence, and they love it. It's splashed everywhere. People
are so excited. We love if a business, We love

(06:46):
a business unconfidence survey, We love a consumer unconfident survey.
It's everywhere. Ye, it fulfills all the NASA's dreams. They
love it. Well, this means I can cancel things, and
there are you know, there's there are always people in
every venture in this country who who Who's favorite thing
as to cancel something like, for example, pointing out in

(07:10):
this in this article here businesses canceling their conferences because
it's not the right vibe. Meanwhile, the stadium's falling up
for gigs and for sporting events. You know, because I
said it before at the start of the twelve o'clock

(07:31):
it seems like we wallow in an orgy of negative
headlines and surveys. But has it ever been good? That's
the question. If you're waiting for things to be great
such that you can get on with it, has it
ever been good? Because because when it has been good,
we're still being told it's lousy. I remember when we
came out of the recently we came out of I

(07:55):
think it was about two thousand, just before COVID, and
then we were told we've been going through some really
good times. Just before COVID, we hadn't been. No one
knew we were going through good times because everyone was
still saying it was terrible. So you got the GFC.
Remember that earthquake, there was a Biggie and then the
humiliation of COVID. Then then droughts yep, Gabrielle, Yes, Ukraine,

(08:19):
Oh yes, Iran, and we've probably got an upcoming stupid
AI bubble pop. There is always something yep. In fact,
Billy Joel wrote a whole story about it, We Didn't
Start the Fire, where he just lists that things have
always JFK blown away? What else do I have to say?
Just listing the events that are always happening in the world.

(08:39):
So if you're going to wait for the perfect time
to do something, then it's never it's never coming, It's
never coming. As Gandalf when he was talking to Frode
listened to this conversation between the Great Gandolf the Gray
and Frodo Baggins, wish note of.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
This happen, So do all we live to see such times.
But that is not for them to decide, or we
have to decide is wanted to do with the time
of just.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Get them to it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's such a beautiful quote.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
All we have to do is decide what to do
with the time that is given to us. So such
wise words, right, Because if you're waiting for the perfect
time for something happened, you will waste your entire life.
And one thing is sure, when the times are perfect,
when you should have done it, the headlines won't say that,
and the winds will still be telling you it's the
worst time ever and trying to shut things down because

(09:32):
that's what they do. So are we a jittery nervous nation?
If so, why and more importantly, are you a jittery
nervous person? Because if you are not, you will cut
through the jetterary people, right mm hmm, Like you kind
of barge. Yeah, do we need to start shaming the jittery,
nervous people that try and shut things down because they
list the reasons why it's too hard to do things?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I think that, yeah, might be a fair point. What
do you say I on one hundred eighty ten eighty
is that number of cour nine two ninety two is
the text? Are we a jittery nervous nation? And do
we need to shame people who are full of anxiety
and defeatism on the way forward? Really keen on your
view on this one? I eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is that number?

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Call?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
It's sixteen pus one the.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Big stories, the big issues, to the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talks it.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
B news talks THEREB it is nineteen past one. So
in an opinion piece, former journalist and presenter Johann Kessiander
argues that New Zealand has become increasingly anxious, reactive and
emotionally on edge. That we're driven more by fear than
a can do attitude. So do you agree with that?
Have we lost our can do attitude?

Speaker 7 (10:40):
You know?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
The cliche was the number eight wire mentality, and I
think that absolutely existed. So if we have lost that,
why do you think that is? I weight hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number to call a couple of texts?
If we are such a say no nation, why are
we so wealthy?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Says this text up, Well, we haven't always been a
say no nation. That's right, we're famously a number eight fencing.
Why I can do get on with it. She'll be right,
push forward, bold nation, going towards the future. Yeah, and
then at some point we lost our confidence. It'll be
interesting to know when people think we lost our confidence,
and if in fact we have, we may not have

(11:17):
lost their confidence. It might just be a media construct, right,
that we've lost our confidence.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yep, it could be yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
The sixth says you would be insane not to wait
out this recession. Yes, but then what's next?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Exactly? There's no such thing as the perfect time to
do what you want to do, and even if you
have imperfect information, that is better to act than to
waiting for the perfect time to come around. That's what
we used to do in New Zealand. We didn't wait
for people to say yes, you can do that. People
just got on and did it. If they wanted to
do something or had a dream, they figured out a

(11:48):
way to do it. Have we lost that? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Are you trying to cancel cancel culture? Yeah, cancel culture,
that's true. Not cancel culture in terms of canceling people,
although I do want to cancel that kind of cancel
culture as well, canceling people for the things that we've
said from some kind of horrific moral high ground. Yeah,
but canceling people saying I'm going to cancel thing's coming
up and they go, I think we should cancel it.
You know that person that says that, Yeah, you organizing something?

(12:13):
I think I think. And if you if there's someone
in your you know, in your office or in your
life that is always the person that tries to cancel something,
then are they a good person to have around?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Hell? No, you've got to shame them. You should cancel
them or shame them. Yeah, leave them out of the meeting,
kick them out of the office. What do you say though?
Nineteen nine two e takes get a timky.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
Guys, I should want to give you a little bit
of an example of just like the counsel utter and
totally an ability to apply it to tiny bit of
commmon sense and commit to getting a job done. So
it's it's a quick scenario. As it comes to the
top of it becomes to quite a high brow. The
stop signs on the brow of the hill, turney right
into the main road. The vision is horrific because the

(12:57):
double yellow line is the line is close enough so
there's no vision and you're just about you're going to
kill somebody at some states as you drive out. So
about six months ago I rung up and just said, hey, look,
everybody in our family, somebody's going nasty quessure. One day,
did somebody over looked? They said, right, I've done that.
Or six weeks ago I rung up again. I never

(13:20):
took out a motorcycles. Sort of wet morning, you just
can't see and they're upon you. There's nobody can see.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
So I rung them up.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
But I said, look, this is just ridiculous, and if
you want to give us a call when the first
thing comes down and he has look, I'll meet you there.

Speaker 11 (13:34):
It's like night and day.

Speaker 9 (13:36):
Anybody five year old to see that there's a problem.
You know, nothing happens. I get an email this week, say,
after six weeks, saying we've had extensive discussions about it,
our investigations, and after considerable consideration, we are they're going
to have to have somebody intend to do a site
visit an engineer. And I'm like, oh my god. So

(13:56):
I went to Google and thinking, if I don't stupid them,
get off, KARENOI and by becoming a bit of a
carying complaining. So I went to Google Earth and I thought,
I looked down upon this intersection, there's a car where
all the troublers. I measured it quickly, because you know,
you can do it to a millimeter.

Speaker 10 (14:11):
On Google Earth.

Speaker 9 (14:12):
There the maximum vision you can get us twenty two meters.
The minimum replied is one hundred metres. You have to
have six seconds of clear view to turn into an intersection.
The maximum fifty kilometers an hour as one point six
two seconds or something point six two of the second. Yeah,

(14:33):
it's just on sixteen. So everything's about twenty percent of
the vision. You can see it from night and day
to be thirty seconds of dray line on Google Mass
it a look at.

Speaker 12 (14:43):
The whole thing, it's real time you look at it.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
It has taken them six weeeks and numerous conversations to
get such inclusion. That's very confusing for them. Possibly that
our i'd had to attend with an engineer, so something
that I could established I sitting the photos and the
diagrams and everything in about one email took be about
two minutes. Anybody, you kid could look back from apartment
and take something wrong with lips it doesn't be I'm

(15:09):
sure I was probably getting five or ten thousand dollars
with it discovery to do something that's halfwoot could do
and actually ten twenty minutes and just taking your super
once say it doesn't look you know, you're right.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
No one seems. No one seems to be able to
make decisions. I think that's part of it, right, And
I wonder if that's the part of it is that
there's so many repercussions if you get something wrong. And yes,
so the repercussions aren't for not doing there's no repercussions
for not doing something, but there's huge repercussions for getting
something wrong. Yeah, if anything happens, then we all just

(15:43):
you know. It takes me back to COVID. You know
when when you know, the whole nation went completely and
utterly insane because someone went out for some beers out
of mi Iq, Yes, and then the whole nation was
spitting or some people drove up north. You know, we
started just really as a nation circling around and trying

(16:04):
to absolutely destroy people who stepped out of line.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten is that number to call?
I mean, look, we were kind of talking about this
Lucy yesterday with the tree situation, and this is kind
of part of it. Is that you've got a problem
in front of you, and if you can see that problem,
it's nice and easy and something like a tree and
it needs a bit of pruning. You've got the ability
to take care of that, but there is someone someone
there to say, no, you cannot do that. I'm sorry

(16:28):
you've got that problem, but that is not the white
right way to do go about it. You've got to
give the council call, You've got to give this person
a call. You've got to get a proper professional. Is
that part of it? I mean to me, that is
because that's incredibly frustrating. If you've got a problem in
your life and you know how to solve it. But
someone puts the brakes on and say, nope, nope, you're
not allowed to solve that. But I know how I

(16:48):
know how to solve it. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I've got a great one. Yeah, I've got a great
one that just happened to me this morning. Okay, unbelievable.
I've forgotten about this. An example of how much time
people spend waste on bollocks instead of just talking to
someone and getting something done. I'll share that next, right.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
That's good. What is he calling it a jittery nervous nation?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Have we become a jittery nervous nation? If so, why?
One hundred and eighty ten eighty It is twenty six
past one.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
The headlines and the hard questions. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 13 (17:25):
We're back again to the school lunch program. We've got
some new data reports of glass and metal undercooked food.
David Seymore is the Associate Education Ministry and so twenty
one is that a number out of what I assume
it's hundreds of thousands of lunches.

Speaker 14 (17:36):
Well, it's not that, it's about fifty million a year.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
So twenty one out of fifty million.

Speaker 14 (17:41):
Yep, and look not to be here making excuses. But
let's just put a few of these in a bit
more context. There were some issues that occurred while we
had the big blow up in the factory in Hamilton.
We got some alternate suppliers and to cover them, and
some of them made mistakes not minimizing it.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
But that issue has been the resolved.

Speaker 13 (17:57):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Maybe's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
It is twenty nine past one. Have we become a anxious,
jittery nation? She of r Z one hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Okay, here's an example of something that happened to me
this morning. I look in the letter box at my house.
I go back to check on the renovation, and did
I tell you a few like about two weeks ago
my fence fell down? Yes, So in the storm, I
went out and I put two wartars in you know,
ye metal wartars, fencing warritors. Good on, yeah, big black warritars.
Put them in there. Old the fence up right. And

(18:31):
so I get this letter, this really long letters, it's
about three pages of from a neighbor saying that you
had and that this is what happened. So they go,
it's a sheared driveway situation. It's complicated, but there's there's
grass and then there's a driveway. Yes, so that the
wartars are only in the grass, but they're holding up
the sheared fence, right yep. And so I get this letter,

(18:53):
this incredibly detailed and threatening letter saying you have installed
metal beams and on blocking the driveway, which it isn't
and I wish I'd brought it up. Actually it goes
into this huge detail threatening legal letter about these beams
and about and if you need, you need to write

(19:14):
for a permission to install anything new in this area,
and just as so long. And then it's got pictures
of these beams. Here they are warritars banged into the
ground to hold the fence up temporarily until we work
out what to do with the fence.

Speaker 15 (19:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And this neighbor who I'm going to go around see tonight,
that's this neighbor instead of knocking on the door and saying, oh, oh,
what's happening with these things and being so dumb yep
that they don't know that what a waratar is or
what a temporary nail of temporary stuck into the dirt

(19:50):
piece of metal is calling them metal beams. Instead of
coming around and asking what the situation was, they've gone
to the effort of drawing up a three page legal
letter with a whole lot of pictures of the Waratars
in the back of it.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
What a freaking waste of time. That person is insane.
I think that's an insanity that seems to be more
common these days.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah, it doesn't get.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Any The beams, don't The beams, the Warritas don't get
in anyone's way. Absolutely, they're clearly holding up the fence.
But you're so dumb that you don't know what they
are and you think that they are some kind of
permanent construction that I've put on our shared grass strip.
It's just what a freaking waste of time. So I'm

(20:36):
going to go around to and I'm going to wave
that in their face and go, you've got a legal
letter together before knocking on my door, could and or
before not doing anything, because it's clearly a temporary measure
to hold the fencer.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Gosh, that's exactly what we're talking about. You know, you
solved a problem that you were having and a normal person.
I think this is what we used to be right,
that a normal person would come and knock on the
door and say, can I give you a hand? See
your fences come down? We can we solve this together,
and said that sort of insanity where someone right, you're
a three page bloody legal letter with diagrams on it, and.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Then posts it so it's got a stamp on it.
So you could have walked fifty meters and knocked on
the door and discussed it if it was such a drama.
It's such a drama for you that there's a couple
of warritars banged into the ground in no way not
on your property, so it's not on their property. It's
leading in. It's the sheer driveway that leads into everything. Right, yes,

(21:34):
instead of doing that, is this the nation we've become? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Ninety two nine two is the text? Headlines coming up
will be baggvery shortly.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
You've talked said headlines with.

Speaker 16 (21:51):
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Sky City is looking to sell off one of its

(22:12):
Auckland hotels as the Iran war and surging fuel prices
start to hit its bottom line. The company has reduced
its earnings guidance for the current financial year by about
seven point five percent. Police have confirmed the investigation to
identify any of fugitive Tom Phillips are clump accomplices won't
result in any charges. Phillips was shot dead by police

(22:36):
during a confrontation in September. A crackdown on motorist speeding
through Auckland school zones in Flatbush this week has led
to more than seventy infringement notices in just two hours
across two days. Technical teams are working to resolve a
widespread internet and coverage outage across the whole South and

(22:56):
Lower North Island. World renowned kiw we celebrity chef suddenly
quits top Queenstown restaurant. You can see more at enzid
Herald dot co dot nzet. Now back to Matt Eathan
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Thank you very much, ray Llan. It is twenty four
to two. So have we become a jitterary nervous nation?
Our eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number to call? Ninety two ninety two is the text is? Well,
so we've got some plenty of texts coming through a
ninety two ninety two. This one says, guys, simple answer
is yes, we have become jittery and nervous as a nation.

(23:31):
Why people have lost initiative due to too many government
bureaucrats making too many rules to try and ruin your life.
So everyone is scared to take any risk for fear
of a prosecution by faceless government departments, just like how
Wellington Council killed the sevens among other things. Too much
bureaucracy is destroying New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, so that's maybe why we've become a jiturary nation. Right,
But the other part of it is if you're waiting
for good times to come, so you you know, people
are canceling things because they keep saying this isn't the
time to do right, So they say we need to
cancel it. But the question is when is the good times?
So I was wanting to play this song by Billy Joel,

(24:10):
but we can't seem to get it up and beg
your pardon, So Joseph Stalin, if you listen to the lyrics. Basically,
the idea of the song by Billy Joel was to
list everything that was always happening because he was talking.
He was a boomer, right, and he was talking to
a younger person who said that times were tough, and
he said, oh, and then he went and just wrote

(24:31):
a song and listed everything that was always happening all
through history. It's just saying that the boomers didn't start
the fire, that things have always been happening all the time.
So that's what that song is. Just listening that history.
Historical events just keep coming, coming, coming, coming, coming, coming.
That's what's happening now. Historical events just keep coming and
coming and coming and coming and coming and coming and coming.

(24:51):
So what are you waiting for? You hold off doing
something you don't know what's going to be next. None
of us knew the Iran War was coming right exactly.
So you know, you start something, you're just going to
You're just going to not do anything because the world
is a tumultuous and ever changeable place.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yep, so true. And this is that song right now,
and he said it best. They're taking your goals. Oh
a hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? Call nineteen
nine two is the text. I think we've got Peter
on the phone. Get a Peter. What do you reckon?

Speaker 12 (25:19):
Hey chaps?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, good mate? What do you say? Do you reckon?

Speaker 12 (25:24):
I reckon? This all started when they stopped letting kids
being kids and put safety first. And all these people
that bleed and moan and have no common sense. I
refer to them as back in the school days when
they never got picked first, and or they would picked
last at any lunchtime sports team, or they were kicked

(25:45):
out of the sampit because they just weren't normal. And yeah,
it's just unbelievable that there's so many of these people
out there that just feel like they just have to
cause crap. There's just no common sense in it, you know,
like you were saying about your warritors, there's common sense.
You know, you're just doing what needs to be done

(26:06):
in a short term. And this guy, your name, it
is a classic pet Glass in bull rush or not
at all, you know, And it's it's everywhere it's the
vegan and it's the people that chain themselves to doors.
It's the destiny church people that now have got a

(26:27):
platform and a voice, and if we don't push back,
it's just going to get worse and worse. It's just
I just can't stand it.

Speaker 16 (26:35):
For you.

Speaker 12 (26:36):
I'm a pretty patient guy, but I'm zero tolerance and
time for He's just non.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
These people can call them in my situation, Peter. The
amount of work that's been put in, so this is
a very formal that's a you know, it might not
be legal, it might be pretending to be legal, but
the amount of effort put in for someone that doesn't
know the basics that they're talking about. Anyone like you,

(27:05):
Peter would look at this and go, that's a warrita
wacked into the ground and leaned against the fence. It's
certainly not a beam seeing because it's a pole.

Speaker 12 (27:15):
You know, I would, yeah, I would go out of
my way to make it worse. That's where I would
deal with that guy. Well, put a warror power right
in front of his little driveway where he gets his
car up.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You know, I just sweet revenge.

Speaker 12 (27:30):
It's just unbelievable. It's yeah, it's just dumb, and I've
got no time.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
For those people.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'll tell you what, Peter, I was thinking when I
was reading the letter, that I might stop off at
the hardware store by twenty five war retars and bang
them all the way down the drive just because. And
that would be a stupid thing to do. It will
make my life life harder, and it will continue things on.
And why do I care about the citiot They've proven
themselves to be not worth my time, so it's better

(27:58):
to just to shut them down and move on. But
part of me would just love just banging in all
those war retars and just ramping it up. But then
you get a neighbors that war a situation. Great television ratio, Yeah, fantastic,
great television show.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
You know I want do I equally want to waste
my life by buying into their insanity.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
But you're fighting the good fight, you know, on behalf
of all of us, Matt. Maybe that's what's needed to
these sort of people. Pity revenge, just to say shame
on you for being such a such a numpty that
you talk this much.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Came on your neighbor's Peter, if your house is getting
brought burgled or something bad happens in your life. That's
the relationship the neighbors should have with each other, right
that you're there to back them up.

Speaker 12 (28:42):
Yeah, you go on a little, but the older days
you used to go on holiday, leave the house on
lock for you. Here's a bottle of milk and a
cat and your bug off for two three weeks.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Can you put the bins out for me that kind
of thing.

Speaker 12 (28:55):
Or pull the bins up yourself and not put them out.
But you know, yeah, yeah, that's all gone. You know,
I think there's very little communities now that been together
and common sense communities. It's it's a shame. It's a
real shame. And you know, this generation now will have

(29:16):
no idea what it's like to close the street and
have a street picnic or a lawn that has no
tree on it. Everyone gathers and plays cricket on that
one lawn from the whole street, you know, and you've
got the next minute, you've got God, it's all gone.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Yeah, Well, it's definitely not going to happen in this
situation because I've just moved in and this is my
first communication with the first communication is a three page
legal letter with supported documents over two warritas.

Speaker 12 (29:47):
Yeah, well I was about to say you can't do
that because the warrior cars are in the way, but
you know it's it's just nuts, It's absolute nuts. I
would go revenge. I wouldn't even by the walking down there.
Have you got to walk down there? Walk down with
something that's going to cause a little bit of strife.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
The best revenge, Peter, is to not be like them.
If you can muster it, you said, if you can
muster it, Thanks to you call Peter. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Cheers Peter, all right, taking your calls on this O
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty. So are we
a jitty, jittery, nervous nation and a people like Matt's
neighbor who, when they see Matt fixing a problem on
his own property, send a three page legally to saying
you can't do that? Is this the problem that we've
got too many people like that in this country? Nine
two ninety two is the text number. It's sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons
call OH eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said
be it is a fourteen to two.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
So we're talking about whether New Zealand has become a
I keep forgetting the term tyler.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And jittery nervous nation.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Jittery nervous nation. And we look to cancel things and
say no and not start things because we're worried about
the future. Yep, when really you just need to get
on with it. Although I heard on the mic Co
Hosking Breakfast the other day there were some new stats
out about the sale of businesses which seemed to suggest
that maybe a lot of this jittery nervousness out there

(31:17):
as maybe a beat up.

Speaker 13 (31:21):
Listen to this a small myth busting exercise for you.
The s morning, things aren't as bad as you might think.
Business sales are up, and they're up quite a lot
twenty one percent. In fact, why would you buy a
business at a time like this?

Speaker 10 (31:32):
Eh?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You know why?

Speaker 13 (31:33):
Because life goes on and people have dreams and those
dreams don't get buffeted about by fiscal uncertainty. There were
twenty seven thousand confidentiality agreement signed in the past year.
That's a lot of agreements. This is a nation, of course,
built on small businesses, and all these numbers show is
nothing's going to change it, not a war, not petrol,
not an election, not the weather. If you ran a

(31:54):
poll and asked is it a good time to buy
a business, like they ask is it a good time
to buy a major household item, you know what the
answer would be. And yet life goes on. These stats
I think are a microcosm or a small example of
the disconnect between studies, those polls, politics and news headlines
and what's really going on the rhythm of New Zealand.
Life gets buffeted about by issues of the day, the

(32:15):
petrol price, the war, the spin. You know who's spending here?
Isn't I mean, why wouldn't it. But if you believe
the polls and the stats in the national conversation as
driven by the headlines, you'd think we're at home, huddled
up in a corner, waiting for the end of the world,
And yet we are not. We are buying businesses, planning
the future, taking the risks, and god forbid, having a
good time. What a shock, right there?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
You go, so well said.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
So we've got one person saying that we're a nervous
nation that's shutting things down we've gone hosking saying we're
out there taking the rest, getting things done and getting
on with it.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, yeah, where's the truth for you? Oh eight, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you want to send a text. Nine two nine
two is that number. Get a Stephen the afternoon, Fellas.

Speaker 17 (32:58):
It seems to be a day that seems to be
talking about everything.

Speaker 12 (33:02):
About my life.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Are really glad to hear Stephen.

Speaker 17 (33:06):
I'll try it. I'll make this one pretty quick. Somehow.
I've lived in the road twenty seven years, coming home
before my kids were born. Used to see these kids
standing at the top of the road, you know, and
it was just a mess. We live in a pretty
good area. So I rang the council and complain, said,
come on, you gotta do something up here. They're standing
in gauze. Two years later they still hadn't done anything.
So I decided to do it myself and I'm.

Speaker 12 (33:28):
On earth move.

Speaker 17 (33:28):
I stuck all my cones up, I did everything so
it looked professional, and I did it at nighttime. Anyway,
I was just about finished.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
The last day to go.

Speaker 17 (33:36):
The council turned up. Someone complained. They complained about me
doing this. So I explained to them, listen, mate, I
haven't got a perman I know that, but it's for
the street and it's all free. And that started seven
months of threatning court action to the highest point where
they gave me a served me a gag order. So
the very next day I rung us the paper and

(33:59):
they turned up and I did an interview, and then
they turned up and literally said, I'll be giving you
a gag order. You can't say anything. This is the
crazyness about these fools. But anyway, anyway, we've all got daughters.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
So what was the end outcome of that?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Stephen?

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Clearly that is a case of you know, you trying
to fix a problem and someone coming along so no,
you can't do that. So what was the ultimate end result?

Speaker 17 (34:23):
Well, in the end I saw to it. They came
out with four engineers, a guy from their legal legal
department told me all the things that I broke the law.
I said, I know all the things that I've done
because I do this for a job and I'm not
going to pay for a permit to do that job,
and I we're getting paid anyway. They generally said, this
is what it is. That's twenty five grand this is

(34:43):
and they got up to two hundred and fifty grand.
They said, look, this is what's going to happen. We're
going to say nothing. We're going to you're going to
have to say sorry, You're going to have to sign
this piece of paper so you'll never do it again,
and you mustn't talk about it. That's what they see it.
And I said, yeah, no worries to sign a piece
of paper.

Speaker 8 (34:58):
That was it.

Speaker 17 (34:58):
They said we'll go away, and that was it.

Speaker 12 (35:00):
And then I wrung the.

Speaker 17 (35:01):
Paper the next day because it was like, no, I've
just you can't do What sort of craziness is this? Anyway,
long story short after that, they actually came to me
and said, we're not going to do anything anymore. We
just walk away. Please just stop talking about it. And
I did and and everything was sorted and the kid
stood up the top of this road. We're happy ever after.

Speaker 15 (35:21):
But what a drama.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, smart on, Stephen, But glad it worked out for
you in the in mate. But you know that seems
to be the problem in the country at the moment.
Do you agree I on one hundred and eighty ten eighty, John,
you want to have a chat.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
Yeah, good, Matt, I just want to have a bit
of a chat to you about your warritari.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
I feel like I've do railed the chat, but I'm
here for us as good.

Speaker 12 (35:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:45):
Well, I'm sorry about that John. This cybeer thing as well,
and I've had experience with it. So I'm just going
to give you a little bit of advice That worked
for me. What you You grabbed that letter that you
got and was so cleverly put together, which I could
suggest has been done by AI, not a lawyer. You

(36:08):
and you rip it up and you put it back
in an envelope and you return it. Don't engage anything
else other than that.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
That worked for me, right, not a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
It would feel very good, John, would It would feel good?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Aggressive?

Speaker 8 (36:22):
It feels really really good. You don't lose any sleep
over what you're going to say, or when you knock
on the door and you've got warratars in your hand
and they think, what are you going to do with
the war Are you going to where you're going to
stick the war retars? Now you just simply rip it up,
put it in an envelope, hand right the address on it,

(36:44):
and send it back. And I think all the time
that it's been done by AI, because that's where it
would have come from.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
This is this is a good suggestion, John, I like
at my My plan was to go around with a
big cherry face and saying, come on, we're neighbors. If
your fence fell down and you temporarily, you know, fixed
it up, well you're looking waiting for to make the
decision and we're only talking, we're only talking ten days here, necement.
Then I would say I would be there to help.

(37:12):
I would come out and help you. You know, I
was thinking about just trying to open my heart to
them because I have to live near these people forever,
right yep. But on the other hand, boy'd feel good
to rip the letter up, put it in the envelope
and hand it back.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You've got a big decision to make.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Maybe with it some some twigs and stuff in there.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I'm looking forward to hear on what happens, mate, right
beg very shortly. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams
Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
News TALKSB it is four to two.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Hey, guys, New Zealand's become jittery and lost confidence in
twenty twenty during COVID we were told what to do
and when to do it, and even going to the
loo at friends barbecues. That's right, you must remember that
that was humiliatic. Now people don't have the confidence think
for themselves. I don't know how this will change other
than giving them a good cack up the jacksy. Thanks
for your Textcale. Yeah, but I think we were already

(38:06):
We never would have allowed that to happen to ourselves
if we hadn't already been broken to a certain extent. Right, Yeah,
I mean crazy that we allowed ourselves to be locked
up like that. Yes, yeah, it was this. Texasays you
should not discuss your personal problems on air without talking
to your neighbors. Sorry, it's very unprofessional. I refuse to
be professional. If I ever hear that I'm being professional
on the show, then I'm going to hand in my headphones.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
So, I don't know if we solved the problem, but
I think that audio from the conversation between Frodo and
Gandalf is enough. It says it all in at the hour.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
I wish none of this had happened, So do all
live to see such times?

Speaker 5 (38:42):
But that is not for them to decide.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
All we have to decide is what to do with
the time of just give.

Speaker 11 (38:48):
The tes.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Beautifully said, well done? Right coming up after two o'clock.
How much is too much to go to a school ball?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
The big stories, the legal issues, the big trends and

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the pro game.
Salmon bars too. Now the reason I've got a bit
of a smile on my doll. Last hour we were
talking about whether we had jittery into nervous as a nation.
But you were talking about an incident where you tried
to fix a problem and someone your neighbor, said no,
you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
Well, I was thinking about wasted resources and effort. Yeah,
So just a bit of background. My fence blew down
in the wind, so I put two wartars a small
por portion of the fence, so I put two wartars
and temporarily to hold it up.

Speaker 17 (39:40):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
Whilst before I get the how, we've got a builder
coming around to refix the fence, right, yes, rebuild the fence.
So ten days it's been like that, and it goes
there's a sheer driveway, but there's there's a grass bed,
so it's not in any one's way at all suddenly,
and I mean you look at that.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, it's not an obstruction as I would say, at all.
So the reason I'm having a bit of a giggle
was you've actually you went down gy cartograbbed the letter
that was sent to you from your neighbor and response
to this. So there is a couple of photos attached
of these two warratars which are in no way impeding anybody.
It's literally there holding your fence up. But the wather
he's I'm laughing is that this numpty has written it

(40:19):
on some embossed paper make it him seem like he's
part of some conglomerate that's going to come after everything
that you've got, and it is. It's clearly written by
AI and he claims he's part of this company. But
then he's got a hot mail account at the end
of it. I mean, it's all just laughable, mate. I
thought it was just like some print off on a
word document. But he's tried to go all out.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
You know. The good thing about it is it's obviously
eating this person alive. They have spent so much time
on that. They've got the paper. They've posted it to
me even though we're next door, so it could have
just put it in the letter box. Didn't need to
have a stamp on it. Yeah, it's that those two
warratars and this incredibly long fence. I mean that the
fence has got to be four hundred meters and the

(41:02):
and the wartars take up about I'm going to say
seventy five cent. It's been eating this person up.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
So he's gone to the trouble of these are color photos,
so he's obviously gone down to where house stationary to
get a couple of these printed off. He's waltzed down
and tried to get the best photos he could of
something that is not impeding anything. And then clearly he's
picked up some nice embossed paper and put and he's
taken probably like, yeah, look at all this. This is
probably hours of work for her to put this together,

(41:33):
when he could.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Have firstly looked at the warriortor has and gone ll
this is clearly a temporary solution. These are just These
are just warretas you just bang them in, you know,
they're a fencing tool. Yeah right, Yeah, they're clearly banged.
And that's not These aren't permanent metal beams as they
described there, especially since beams then for a start, they're
not beams beams go the other way. But instead of

(41:57):
just coming around knocking the door and going, oh hey,
what's happening with the fence, can I help out it all?
Or what's going on? It looks like the fence has
come down and you've put it back up with these things,
instead of doing that or not even worrying about it
at all, yep, which would be the most sane thing
to do. Hayes. Obviously it's eating them up inside. It's
become the most important thing, and he's deployed all these

(42:18):
resources on it. This letter has taken.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So long, and that is insanity.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Pictures and the aggressive language, opening with such aggressive language
like you're some kind of you know, it's kind of
like TV and Z trying to shut up that story
here in zid meat trying having a chilling effect on
our bloody on our neighborhood. Yes, yeah, anyway, I'll be,
I'll be, I'll be coming around tonight and someone says,
what if they're listening. I hope they're listening. Yeah, the

(42:45):
best thing in the world would be that they were
listening to this particular broadcast. I love Yeah, I love
it now the good or the background of how I
feel about it.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes.

Speaker 8 (42:53):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
But as Marcus Aurelius said, the Great Marcus Aurelius, the
best revenge is to be not like them. So if
you think the way they're behaving is idiotic, then don't
be like them.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Be the bigger man.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
There's nothing kill someone with kindness. Yes, be magnanimous. Yeah,
so generous in your response.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's really going to upset them. That's the best event
it's going to send them over the years. All right,
get us an update when we get a resolution on that.
But let's have a chat about this. So an Auckland
principle says, the cost of attending the annual school ball
escalating out of control. One nor Shaw College is charging
get this, two hundred and thirty dollars per ticket for
this year's showcase events. Parents at Arewa College. They have

(43:35):
head out online at the obscene price tag to send
their teens too. This year's ball, a mother with twins said.
She said in this article she faces spending nearly five
hundred bucks on tickets for her two children, a quash
she describes at as ridiculous. Wow, it is fair to
say that the school did take notice. So they were
charging two hundred and thirty dollars and they've come back

(43:55):
and said, yep, that was a bit pricey, so they've
put a fifteen percent discount on it. It's now down
to one hundred and ninety five dollars. But there are
a lot of headmasters and principals coming out saying the
cost of the school balls I was getting absolutely out
of control. Papacuta High School principal Simon craggs. He says
it was escalating out of control for students and it
forced the cancelation of his school's milestone event for two

(44:19):
consecutive years. So it got so bad how much they
were charging for the tickets to the old school ball
that the principal of Papacuta High School said no more,
we're going to cancel it. You can't sort out the
ticket prices. We're just going to say you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Who is organizing and who is charging it is a
very good question. So it's not a commercial operation outside
of the school, is it.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I don't believe it is. I think it is in
a house situation.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
It's like the ball committee at the school.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah, so I mean it's a different from school to school.
And when I was in high school was done in
house by the social committee. So these are a bunch
of students that set it up and that money I
think went back into the actual setting up. So the decorations,
the food. I don't think the kids pocketed any maybe
the school pocketed a little bit.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
How fancy does a ball have to be the ball?
The Bogan Heart. I went to Bogan Park High School
in Duneda, yep. And the Bogan Park High School I
think there was a little bit of tinsel here and there. Yeah,
you know, the main thing was trying not to vomit
on the deputy principle when you went through the wh

(45:22):
when you entered the ball.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
That's right on the from the you know, pre loading. Yeah,
the sober faces you wear basten.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yeah, so that's ridiculous that that's obviously that the bulls
too flash right? Can it not just be in the
school gymnasium with a little bit of tinsel around, right.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, because at the moment, what they're doing in some
of these school balls is they are hiring out very
lavish venues. So tell us your story, our eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, how much you know your kids
school is charging for the school ball? And do you
think it just needs to be a bit more in
house because this is looked forward to for seniors at
the end of the year. This is a big event
and part of it is, you know, that is almost

(46:01):
a bit of a stepping stone into adulthood as well,
because a lot of them are boyfriends and girlfriends and
they're doing that whole thing, and maybe they'll sneak a
bit of boo oo before the ball itself. You know,
that's all part of being a child and starting to
step into university life. So the fact that they're charging
two hundred and thirty bucks for a high school ball,
is that a bit on the nose.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You're just doing the wrong kind of ball because and
it's kind of an emotional blackmail thing because it marks
the end of school, right like the ball or you know,
you go in year twelve and year thirteen, right yep.
Or if you're really flash and you're and you've managed
to get a girlfriend in year thirteen, when you're in
year twelve or something, or a year eleven or something, right,

(46:41):
so it's twelve and thirteen, right yep, or just thirteen,
so you know, there's the moment because that's the way
you end of school and you're thinking about the pictures,
and so these things kind of get out of hand
on the back of that, right, because then parents are like,
I can't not pay for that, I can't not have
my son or daughter go to the school ball. But
does it really matter how flash.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It is as long as you're there. Yeah, not to me,
it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
It should be fifty dollars ahead flash maximum. And it's
not like they're giving them drinks any It's not like
there's drinks at them anymore.

Speaker 7 (47:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
No, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number
of call? So how much is too much for a
school ball? And how much are you being charged as
a parent for your children's school ball? Nineteen ninety two
is that text number? It is a quarter past two,
will be beat very shortly.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Wow, your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It is eighteen past two. So there's a bit of
pushback from parents around the country in terms of the
cost of the school ball. So in on the North Shore,
one college was charging two hundred and thirty dollars per ticket. Wow,
that is a lot of money. But what if she
goes into a school ball these days? Is it done
by the student committee?

Speaker 3 (47:54):
I mean, what sort of It's not contracted out to
a profit making events company, is it. These balls are
held at outside venues, says this Texas, so that they
feel special, not just another do in the school hall. Unfortunately,
the cost of hiring it external venue and catering the surrendous.
Same reason a lot of other non school balls have
become prohibitive. See because I know what's the most famous

(48:19):
school ball? Probably the one and Back to the Future?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yep, what is that?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Under the sea? The Back to the Future school boar
that's just in the school hall?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yeah, that was I mean they had a good band.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Enchantment under the Sea dance, that's right. Yeah, So does
it have to be does it have to be better
than that, I think.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
I mean, where was your school ball? So back at
at Bogan Park.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
See, I'm trying to remember. I think it might have
been at the I don't know. Actually, now I think
about it, I can't remember. I was pretty drunk that
tracks tracks. I dressed up as Bam Bam though, and
my partner Jenny, she dressed up as Will. No, no,
he's the other one, Bam BAM's partner. Right, is it

(49:06):
windy and Bam Bam?

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I think it is windy and Bam. Yeah, well, I say,
like the first.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
One, but there wasn't a theme. Yeah, she just wanted
us to go was Peoble's and Bambam.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
I love that about you, mate. I see the one
in Nelson College. I only went to one because I
wasn't there in seventh form, but the one and sixth
form was, which would be year twelve these days. That
was in the school hall. But then there was and
I didn't reize. I didn't realize this still later because
my mate stole me. But there was a bit of
a backlash to that, so in the seventh form they
actually took that off site and had to pay a
lot more for it. And I always thought that's crazy.
You're just there too for a lot of you guys

(49:39):
drink a bit of booze.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Yeah, so guys wondering if the two hundred and fifty
dollars includes the plus one. If so, that doesn't seem
so bad. No, it doesn't, does It's two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Bucks per per per ticket, per ticket.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
Yeah, so it's not for the couple.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
No, there's no plus one involved in that two hundred
and thirty bucks.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
If it's turn and fifty dollars each, it should include
a whole hotel room at the venue. Yeah, my hotel
room that the venue is controversial.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Very controversial. So, I mean some of these parents go
on to say so aside from the actual ticket prize,
they then talk about the prices of the dress for
the ladies, you know, the here and makeup. So they've
kind of done the calculations here. So here's styling a
line can cost between eighty dollars and one hundred and
fifty bucks. Make up ninety dollars to one hundred and
forty dollars, nail appointments because you've got to get your

(50:23):
nails done fifty to eighty bucks, and then bringing beauty
prep and estimated two hundred and three hundred and fifty
bucks before the night even begins. And then some of
these gowns seven hundred bucks to seventeen hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Angela, you know a bit about this kind of situation.
I understand.

Speaker 18 (50:42):
Yes, I've done quite a few in my time, school balls,
not necessary school balls, but I've done black tie events
and balls, but not school But it's really hard to
get away from the overhead costs. And then you go
to a country halls yep, you know, and it costs
you fifty bucks and people bring in the food. You're
going to have to suffer the costs of a venue.

(51:04):
And if you've got where are they at the new one?

Speaker 2 (51:06):
A this, yeah, this is an outside venue for the
two hundred and thirty dollars and nor sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 18 (51:13):
So that is going to just to get there, Their
venue costs are going to be really high, really high
public liability insurance. You're restricted to who the case it is.
Usually with a venue, you can't stay, I can I
bring my own or can I go to these guys
because they want to help sponsor you. So it does

(51:36):
add up really quickly.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
What kind of people are going to your balls or
events that you've organized, Angela, is it corporations?

Speaker 7 (51:46):
What?

Speaker 18 (51:47):
Actually have just retired, But it was very much corporate
or industry, sort of the equivalent of mastered Electricians, master
builders awards a lot of award nights and things like that,
so you know, really special nights. It was a major
thing annually, whatever it may have been.

Speaker 15 (52:05):
But even then, it was a.

Speaker 18 (52:06):
Huge cost for people, and we did everything we could
keep the cost down as low as possible. And the
only way really with you get ever get an affordable
ticket price was to get sponsorship. Right, fundamental things add
up to be so high.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
So if you were running a school ball and you
wanted to keep prices down, what would you do? Would
it be in the school gymnasium as opposed to renting
a place off site? What would it be?

Speaker 12 (52:33):
Yep?

Speaker 18 (52:33):
I would probably do something like that. Or if you
want to get somewhere else site, just to make it
a little bit special, I would probably go to a
community hall. You know, it's because your your higher cost.
Immediately you don't have all sorts of compliance and all
sorts of things. You still have fun, but a lot
of what you're paying.

Speaker 7 (52:51):
For is.

Speaker 18 (52:54):
Well they can afford to put a premium on when
it's a really you know, it's a well known venue,
and yes that is the attraction because suddenly it elevates
the ball when it's on a flat venue, it elevates
it from a country bunk and ball like we all
grew up with too, you know, something absolutely outstanding. But
the way to probably negate the cost is to go

(53:15):
somewhere like a community hall and be able to bring
your own things in, your own food, and or organize
your own caterer, rather than that restriction of having to
go with the venue caterer who always are usually really
high end and so you cannot get away with anything
except probably a high cost for the meal.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Do you think the schools have become I guess too
Americanized in the way they look at balls, seen too
many things on movies and TV shows, and add in
the Instagram factor where you've got to get the perfect picture,
so it has to be an incredible night and it's
just outside of what the reality of being in New
Zealand is.

Speaker 18 (53:54):
I totally agree that I was about to say that
I don't think it's not real. It's and I don't
actually think it's New Zealand, and unfortunately, I think it
sets a lot of the young ones up for a
false environment and I think it's fundamentally a key with
thing actually, But you're right. But it's like some of
the other things that we've and here we're taking on

(54:15):
from overseas, you know, Halloween, all those things which are
now part of meant to be part of our culture,
but we're never so before to the degree they are
now anyways.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Because it adds a whole lot appreciate as well, doesn't it,
Because you know, if you were just tipping on a
dress and going to a sort of a semi rubbish
ball in a gymnasium like White School, I can't eve
remember where ours was then, because it's there's enough pressure
trying to get someone to go with you, yeah, rather
than getting someone to go with you and then have
the flashest night ever, get the most beautiful photos ever,

(54:47):
get your hair done, all those kinds of things. So
that so if you're up the flashness of the venue,
then everything has to live with it, including the including
the pressure on the evening rather than just a good
good night out with your with your friends from school,
you know, Yeah, And.

Speaker 18 (55:04):
I'm just thinking that when you say you've got a
half on a dress, can we get a focus a
new one of those mets?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Good call Angela, we can make that happen.

Speaker 18 (55:12):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Everyone there must have so much
more pressure in this day and age for all of
those things, which you know, back in my day we
didn't even go to used to make our own dresses
in the late supertes but even probably from twenty years ago,
it wasn't such a big thing by any means, and
it must be a massive cost appearance.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Well, if a kid didn't win. This is just at
my school, but so I think it's a reality. If
a kid wasn't able to go to the ball, then
that poor kid found ostracized, you know, like he you know,
he would have been one of the few to not
be able to go to the ball. And if more kids,
you know, they getting into a situation it's too expensive.
You know, mum and dad can't afford that.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
But even if mum and dad can just afford it,
you know what I mean, Like, so it's not just
the people that fully can't afford it, it's just another
big whack of money.

Speaker 18 (55:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Yeah, so you just.

Speaker 18 (56:01):
Actually wonder sometimes with some of the balls, how many
kids are sick that night because they can't afford to go? Yeah,
because it must be really tough.

Speaker 11 (56:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Absolutely, This person does point something out that's interesting this topic.
Thank you Angela for you're cool. Appreciate your expertise on
the issue. The topic is getting very jittery and nervous
New Zealand are we should we just shut the hell
up and go go hard? Two hundred and fifty dollars
tickets for the ball flash as possible. Spend up large
show big five hundred dollars, one thousand dollars, Get the

(56:34):
limo yep, chandelier.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Get that thousand dollars suit.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Yeah yeah, spend sixteen hundred dollars on your hair.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, what do you say? Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is a number to call and if your appearent,
where did your skared kids high school ball take place?
Was it at a gym? Or was it at a
lavish outside venue? Nine two ninety two is the text number.
It is twenty seven past two.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on US Talks.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
News Talks there be. It is twenty nine past two,
and we're talking about the costs of the school ball.
So some parents they're outrage tickets are costing two hundred
and thirty bucks per ticket. But as appearent, where has
your or where is your child's ball taking place? Is
it at an outside venue or is it in the
school gymnasium? One hundred and eighty ten eighties number to
call Kevin, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (57:30):
Good afternoon, How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Very good? Thanks for calling your thoughts on school balls.

Speaker 10 (57:36):
Jesus the good grief. The last time, the last time
I own went to school balls were sounds like an
Ice Sager, sounds like it sounds like a lifetime I
sage ago two one, two and two?

Speaker 15 (57:49):
What right?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
And twenty four years ago?

Speaker 3 (57:51):
And what was the school ball like back then?

Speaker 10 (57:55):
Reasonably priced? Because both both the school balls I went
to well at Eden Park.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
So what.

Speaker 10 (58:03):
I want aboute hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
At the time, Wow, one hundred and fifty bucks in
two thousand and two quught.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
A century ago. There's been a bit of inflation since then,
so that that's quite expensive.

Speaker 10 (58:14):
FO one hundred and fifty bucks or so. And it's
something special though in my sixteen seven four years as
I come on, but mostly it was mostly responsible for
the cage it most of the then you high and
that's what it was. But the even park venue was cool.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, that's what I like.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yeah at.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Kevin.

Speaker 10 (58:31):
Sorry, I didn't have to pay for was the suit
suits and the haircut was the only thing was suit
high haircut. That was it. I didn't Costmeme. Didn't Costmeme
for the suit and the high suiting, the higher shut
and haircut. That's it.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
Yeah, right, and did you did you were they serving drinks?

Speaker 7 (58:47):
Was it was?

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Was it long ago ago that they're actually serving drinks
to the year thirteenth.

Speaker 10 (58:54):
In my sixth one one? No, because I wasn't. I
wasn't both of those. I wasn't a legal drinking agent
at the time. It's not yet not to less not
so later in the year after my graduation year, so
later on I was eligible to drink drinking. I was
in on the drinking agent anyway, Right, that's okay.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Did you get did you get some good pictures?

Speaker 10 (59:15):
Jesus? Because this is all in the pre social media age,
so don't have many photos. That's not really or what happened,
whatever happened at the event, state at the event, none
of the social media whatever was it?

Speaker 3 (59:30):
Was there a big, bag, raucous, controversial after party given.

Speaker 10 (59:36):
I think the seventh for year, but that's all I
can recall.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
But Kevin, if it was a big party, you won't
remember much and you're still with your partner from there
in the seventh.

Speaker 10 (59:46):
Form probably not? Probably not?

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Probably not?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Can you remember?

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Probably might be.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Let's just have to ask you, h Kevin, thank you
very much, But it sounds like a good time. One
hundred and fifty bucks back in two thousand and one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, so maybe this isn't a new story. Yeah, so
I've got news headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, got the headlines coming up. But taking your calls,
I wait, hund at eighty ten eighty is that number?
If you're a parent, how much are you paying for
your kid's school ball? And where are they having it?
Are they having it in a lavish venue or are
they going the gym?

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
And we have some communications from a parent whose child
is going to the two hundred and fifty dollars ball
in question, so we'll get their opinion on it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Okay, brilliant, that is good stuff. It is twenty eight
to three.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Thank you very much, Raylean, And we are talking about
the price of the school ball. So some schools are
charging two hundred and thirty dollars. Some parents have pushed
back on that. Is that too much for a school ball?
And before the headlines, Matt, you mentioned that would actually
had some correspondence from a parent from Orewa College. And
her name is Jeckie and she's with us. Now, how

(01:02:09):
are you, Jeckie? Hi, so good to chat with you.
So you've got a son that's going to the ball?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Is that correct?

Speaker 18 (01:02:16):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
He's in near theaty oh brilliant. And what do you
think about two hundred and fifty dollars ticket price?

Speaker 19 (01:02:23):
Well, to be honest, I actually don't mind in this instance.
I think it's his last year at school, it's the
ball is a big deal. They're getting to go to
an amazing venue, and so you know, I'd sort of
rather pay a bit more and have the opportunity for
him to go somewhere really special rather than being in

(01:02:43):
a ball or something like that. But I do totally
get I know that that I'm in a privileged position
of being able to afford that. So I do understand
that it would be hard for other parents, and I
just wonder if there's a different solution, which is, you know,
I know that some schools enable parents to give a

(01:03:04):
bit more money that you know, or set up for
fun that sort of can help the students. And there's
ways of getting take ten ball clothes and things like that.
But I think, yeah, I get it, but I think
it's there's both both sides, and so it must be
really hard for a school to cater to both sides,

(01:03:24):
being able to put on an event that is of
the standard that lots of kids want and our guest
parents want as well, but also making it so that
it's not out of reach. It's not an easy one.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
So turn and fifty dollars is just for your son's ticket,
and then for the partner's partner have to pay turn
and fifty dollars as well.

Speaker 19 (01:03:45):
Yes, I guess, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
So yeah, So when you ask someone to the poll,
you go, do you want to you want to come
to the ball? That will cost you turn in fifty
bucks or as the pressure on a child to go,
I'll pay for both tickets as that how it works.
Has been long time since I've been to a ball, Jackie, Yeah, I.

Speaker 19 (01:04:04):
Looked to It's been a while since I've been as well.
I'm actually not being sure. I know that a lot
of schools, and I don't know about OREUA, but a
lot of schools you can only take people from the
same school. You're not allowed to invite people from other schools, right,
So I guess that would that would solve that problem
because they'd be going anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
What about those people that bring, you know, some guy
that's third year UNI.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
To the so awkward, that's yeah, I can't help on
that one.

Speaker 8 (01:04:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
And so when you say it's a special venue, because
I'm just wondering about that. Is it more special? Why
is it more special? Is it for the photographs or
they just the experience walking into a to a nicer venue.
What makes it more special than the school hall with
a bit of a bit of you know, tensil.

Speaker 19 (01:04:49):
Well maybe in this instance because it is at the
newly opened Convention Center, I think the first school that
gets to have school ball at this venue, So I
would imagine it's pretty amazing in them. When I went
to school balls, I went to pretty cool venues in Auckland,
CB as well, and and it did certainly add to it.

(01:05:11):
It made it really special.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
So we wait to go though, wasn't it from Well,
lots lots.

Speaker 19 (01:05:16):
Of places there are we way to go from a
so I.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Think we need to Are you driving, Judy Jecky.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
Not?

Speaker 19 (01:05:23):
Hopefully there'll be some other some kind of street transport,
some kind of stretch tamer situation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
That's the way to do it exactly.

Speaker 19 (01:05:31):
That's picking them up from the after ball afterwards and
the weels.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Well, yeah, that's the thing, because there was controversy in
recent years about you know, after ball after parties, right,
is that is that being allowed from from Audio College?
They're allowing one to go ahead?

Speaker 19 (01:05:47):
I'm not sure. I actually haven't heard this year. But
again I remember the controversies from my own after balls
many years ago. So it's a story as old as time,
isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yeah, yeah, I think in some ways parents are so
too involved now, right because I think my parents kind
of knew I was going to the ball, that was fine,
but I had no idea about the after party or
you know, it wasn't really something that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
They you didn't need to tell them. They didn't need
to tell them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah, sometimes it's better not.

Speaker 19 (01:06:13):
To know one hundred percent. In fact, we've spoken about that,
and if I look back in time, I think, oh
my god, what were they thinking letting me go?

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Exactly? Yeah, And how's how's your boys?

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
Tax?

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Looking? Is a game? But bow tie the full fool shabn.

Speaker 19 (01:06:28):
Just a tie, just a normal tie.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Nice. You're a proud mum.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
So much easier for the boys, right, Jackie.

Speaker 19 (01:06:34):
It is it is of the second time. I do
have a daughter to come, so I imagine that I
might change my mind then because I think that one
might cost a bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Money, saving now two fifty and then seven hundred and
fifty for the here and make it exactly all right.
Thank you so much for your call, Jackie, really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, what a great call.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Thank you very I hope your son has a fantastic
time at the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yeah, absolutely, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. So,
if you're a parent, how much are you paying for
your kid's school ball? And where is it being held?
And are you like Jackie that it might be a
little bit on the price to your side, But you're
very happy to do that because it is a big
event for kids in the scene. Year in high school
nineteen ninety two is the text back? Very shortly? It
is eighteen to three, the issues that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Affect you and a bit of fun along the way.
Matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
They'd be very good afternoon to you. So we're talking
about the price of school balls. There's some parents who
have pushed back on the price of individual tickets for
some colleges Orewa and on the North Shore Iria was
two hundred and fifty bucks a pop and on the
Norse Shore two hundred and thirty bucks. So how much
is too much for a school ball? And where are
your kids going to their school ball? O one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. How
you doing, Vicky?

Speaker 15 (01:07:41):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Good?

Speaker 20 (01:07:42):
Thanks?

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
What's your thoughts on the price of some of these tickets?

Speaker 21 (01:07:47):
Yeah, I guess two fifty is probably a bit step.
My husband and I are in our late forties. We
went to the ball in the mid nineteenth ninety three.
I went to the ball and fifth form and it
was forty dollars. Following year I got my first job,
which was four dollars ninety six an hours. I guess
it was about eight times the price of the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
Houray, so that's why it's so good to get a
job at schools. Then you realize the voice of money.

Speaker 21 (01:08:11):
Yes, and then we've had our two daughters go to
the ball at Packer and College in twenty fifteen. At
there were sort of four years in a row they went,
and I think it costs about eighty bucks then, and then.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
It seems reasonable. Yeah, where was that? Where where were
there balls at? And where was your ball at? And
where were their balls at?

Speaker 21 (01:08:32):
Miekland. My husband's was Edgewater College and so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
They were on were they on site on the school
side and in the gymnasium? No, I do people do that.
That's like I'm getting that. I'm just getting that from
Back to the Future. The enchantment under the sea darts.

Speaker 21 (01:08:54):
Well to make it special when the women gym, But
so we had out at the downtown Convention Center. Benefits
still exists.

Speaker 7 (01:09:02):
It was in.

Speaker 21 (01:09:05):
In the downtown and Auckland. Yeah, it was beautiful and
it felt really specially felt really growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
And are you still with the partner that you went
to the ball?

Speaker 9 (01:09:17):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:09:17):
No, I he went with some ugly girl.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
I think you were at high school. You were high
school friends.

Speaker 21 (01:09:25):
Well, we met just after high school.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Yeah, whateverened to the whatever to the guy you took
to the ball? Has he turned out?

Speaker 17 (01:09:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 21 (01:09:34):
He probably died of a broken heart. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Did he let himself down at the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
You're the one that got away? Definitely? Yeah. Do you
think it would have been a two hundred and fifty
dollars ball, then maybe things would have worked out for
you too.

Speaker 7 (01:09:48):
Well.

Speaker 21 (01:09:49):
He bought my tecket for forty dollars, and he was
dark about that because he said, I mean, yeah, I
say it was eight times the price in my alley, right,
buy it? Because I thought he should buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah, but that's right. So if you ask someone to
the ball, don't you have to pay for their their say?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
That's the right thing to do.

Speaker 21 (01:10:06):
Yeah, especially if you're a guy. I mean, I know
people might not feel that way now, but I still do.
Maybe I'm the older.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
It can't be dark about it, though. I was about
to say, well done, mate, if there's been dark about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
If there's two people asking you to the ball and
one's going to pay for the ticket, and one's asking
you to pay, then then it's an easy decision. Yeah, yeah,
well would you like to go to the ball? Yes,
that'll be two for fifty bucks. Pretty transitional, pretty difficult conversation.

Speaker 16 (01:10:36):
I know.

Speaker 21 (01:10:36):
And I was first formed, so I wasn't eligible to go,
but he was seventh form. I don't know if I
could still do that, because it's that sort of you're
too young and he's a pedophile. If you're like one
or two years younger. Now they'll make a big deal
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
But it's a lot of creepy for you though, Vicky,
how did he how.

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
Did he ask?

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:10:59):
Probably, you know, wrang me up and go with me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
You don't know how terrifying that was, Vicky, that was
a terrifying moment.

Speaker 21 (01:11:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think now they make everything such a
deal when they ask, it's like a it's like a
proposed a wedding and engagement proposal. Everything seems to be yeah,
but you could just ask.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
But you could ask with a message like an Instagram DM.
Now you didn't have to actually go up or ring
up the house and talk to the person's dad.

Speaker 21 (01:11:30):
With the parents. I know, things we had Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Mister Smith, can I speak to Genny please?

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Why who are you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
I want to ask google the ball. Thanks for your insights, Vicky,
appreciate your call and give a great day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Good memories. Yeah, fantastic. One hundred eighty eighty is the
number of coll plenty of teachts coming through. But Malcolm,
your daughter is off to the ball to nights.

Speaker 17 (01:11:59):
Yes she is?

Speaker 22 (01:12:00):
He driving in the carpet. Yes, she's a Palmerstan Girls
High School and obviously they can take is because that's
from the same school someone mentioned before about taking time
to someone from different schools is not allowed. Obviously you
are allowed because it's a girls school and likewise the
boys school. She has been to the boys school as

(01:12:22):
a partner for a boys last.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Year, right Is that? Is that a connecting school though?
Is that so your daughter's at Parmi North Girls. Is
there a Parmi North Boys and they kind of clearly
get together for a ball? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 17 (01:12:34):
I guess so yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:12:36):
But that that that boys won last year was in
the race course at Palmerston, so I don't know what
that one was, but this one, the Parmy Girls one.
So I just called her before I talked to you
that our much the ticket was because and it's one
hundred and seventy bucks for a double ticket for a
double take being held at the Yeah, for a double ticket,

(01:12:58):
and that's being held at the Palmerston Convention Center in
the middle of Parmy. So that's pretty birdy good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
They've got a deal on that, didn't they.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
Well that's the difference between the price of the Parmeston,
the Parmi Convention Center and the brand new flash Auckland
Convention Center, isn't it, Malcolm.

Speaker 22 (01:13:15):
It's not a bit of place I've seen it outside,
but you know, you, old things being equal, that's for
the two and it has food at it, so.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
It's reasonable, very reasonable.

Speaker 22 (01:13:28):
You gotta drop her off from the old Monaro starting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Well, you're dropping them. You're dropping her and her partner
off in the Monaro. Is she meeting meeting meeting? There
are going to Are you going to intimidate her partner?

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
I think I'll just take sure sure you some intimidations
of old school.

Speaker 22 (01:13:56):
Well keep your hands to yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Yeah, you just let the daughter and you said, say,
you know, daughter, you just go off. I'm just gonna
have a quick word to Mickey here and that's when
you lay down the look.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Real bone crashing handshakers or you probably need a real
just real baying crusher.

Speaker 22 (01:14:11):
Check out the bags of the alcohol again.

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh good on you Malcolm and a handbag.
Hopefully he has a fantastic time tonight. Right, yeah, yeah,
you go, Pami. That's what that's why you live in
Parmi exactly. What a good place, Malcolm, thank you, and
what a great caller.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Right, we're going to take a quick break, but taking
your calls on one hundred and eighteen eighty and texts
coming through on nine two nine two. It is eight
minutes to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons
news talks.

Speaker 5 (01:14:44):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Six to three, so we'd be been talking about the
cost of the school ball. So many ticks have come
through On nine two ninety two.

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Hey guys, myself and a couple of mates made money
from the ball, sold tickets to an after ball at
Keeley's in the city. Ball was at the Mandalay, Oh,
the Mandalay Well, the mandlay out New Market got told
off and congratulated from school all at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Well done, good work, guys.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
A joke. The target policeman stopped the lady for speeding.
He asked, I've got to be careful read this joke ahead.
She said, you know you know what I said the
policeman is there no balls? No, I won't read that out.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Okay, you got the gist of it. Yeah, I think
people can pick up on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
It was a balls too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
This one's not a bit of ticks. Get a team.
We're in christ Church twenty twenty three. My son's formal
was one hundred and fifty bucks for a double ticket
and two hundred and eighty dollars for a family. They
have it at Addington Race Court, a racecourse function venue.
This was Saint Thomas of Canterbury. He also went with
a girl at Rangy Rudu formal. Not sure how much
it was, but they had it at Hagley Oval. Two

(01:15:47):
hundred and fifty bucks sounds pretty steep.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Yeah, our ball was at Eden Park. I didn't have
a date initially, but ended up finding a date there
after her date pulled out. We're now engaged. Worked out
just fine, So Tod that you stood out the front
and wait for someone to turn up that had been
stood up.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Yeah, we need more context.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
I'm available. Yeah, next thing, you know, married kids.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Great a story. So that was romance.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
That was a fortuitive situation. Wasn't that well done? The
dates of that date pulling out, you know, sliding doors moment, Yeah,
the rest of your life. Jeck hot for you, Sonny,
and I guess that's why balls are kind of important, right,
They've seeing significant moments in your life.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Yeah, a transitional phases. You get closer to the end
of college, you find a date, you drink too much,
you dressed up as Bam Bam.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
In my case, Yeah, my mate Spoonge vomited on the
he did wasn't allowed. And let's just say that much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
He always seems to be Spoonge mate always seems to
be Spooche.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
He vomited on the deputy Principles shoes as we came
in out of the taxi van.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Good work, Spooch right, lovely days, great discussion. Thank you
to everyone who text and gave us a buzz on
that one. New sport and weather is fast approaching and
coming up in about thirty minutes half an hour. New
Zealander of the week looking forward, so that new sport
and Weather on its way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
Matt heat and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
Said the afternoon, welcome back into the show, simbas three.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
I've just been haranguing very Soper out in the office
to sign copies of his book. I saw that one
last question Prime Minister from Muldoon to lux and untold
Stories from the House of Parliament.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
It's a good looking book and very popular by the
sounds of it. You can buy bookstores right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Now, flying out of the door, already being reprinted, very
very popular. I stopped off and bought three copies on
my way into work today from Time Out Bookstore and
Mountain and the best bookstore in the.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
World, beautiful bookstore. And he signed it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Yep, yep, yep, he signed all three three copies for me. Actually,
I'll see what he said. I'll see what Barrys Soaper
signed to me. Here we go, this one here, I
got this all right, one for my dad.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
This is going to be where's this one?

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (01:18:18):
Here we go?

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
What a Barry is Soper? Right to my mentor Matt Heath.
I would have been nothing without you. I owe my
career and everything I've achieved to you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
It's about time you got that recognition, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
I mean no, I've read that wrong. He's just written Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
He's a good man and it looks like a great book.
I'm looking forward to reading it next week.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
Yeah, I'll be reading it next week as well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
What was the title again?

Speaker 12 (01:18:44):
Please?

Speaker 3 (01:18:44):
The title is one last question, Prime Minister from Muldoon
to Luxe and untold stories from the House of Parliament.
Barry's over.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Yeah, there's some good stuff in there. It's bookstores right now.
And just a reminder, in about twenty five minutes new
Zealander of the week who will it be? But in
the next twenty minutes we won't to ever talk about
a story we didn't get to yesterday. We wanted to
have a chat about it. But it's about the umber
of subscriptions we are getting pounded with at the moment
and the price of them. So let me just run

(01:19:14):
through some of the price changes for some of our
favorite subscriptions. So Spotify just lifted its premium price from
eighteen bucks to twenty one dollars. That's a ten percent bump.
And it's not just Spotify. Netflix has climbed from nine
dollars ninety nine and twenty nineteen to seventeen dollars ninety
nine for basic or thirty three dollars for four K.

(01:19:35):
Amazon Prime that has doubled in price over the last
three years, Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Amazon Prime as well, and Certification, so they've now even
if you're paying your subscription, they will then play an
AD and they'll say, if you want to go ad free,
pay more money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
It's tirty, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
So you are paying for no ads, and then they
make the product worse, and then they stand over you
and say you better change if you want no ads,
you don't want to be punished with ads, and you
better pay more money.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
So the mafia, Yeah, that went from the best one
to the worst one. Disney Plus has jumped from ten
bucks to eighteen bucks. So across the board, kiwis are
clearly paying more often for the same or worse service.
As you say in Shitification and the subscription creep. It's
not just with entertainment. It seems to cross the board.
When it comes to fitness, food, health, kids, everything seems

(01:20:30):
to be subscription based at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
Yeah, a recurring revenue model. See, that's they've worked out
that if you get someone on a subscription, they'll forget
about it and they'll just keep paying. And because it's automatic,
people might make the decision once they go, I'm going
to be paying thirty three dollars a month, okay, and
then they forget about it. Another thing that annoys me, say,
you know Sky, right, I love my Sky Sport app fantastic.

(01:20:54):
I watch a lot of sport. But when they get
a new feature, like on Sky they've got the feature
where you can watch it games and high death right, yep,
super Flash four K or whatever it is. And then
that's there and you click, I don't go upgrade to this. No,
as a subscription service, which Sky is, if you get

(01:21:15):
a new feature and new technology, you add it into
the mix to make people stay.

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
You don't go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
We've got something that's slightly better, you have to pay.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
More for it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
I agree, that's dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
That was always the have that you want four K
double the price or we'll just give you dirty old
seven twenty. So no, you don't give me seven twenty.
You can be the best you got. I'm already paying
paying your money.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Yeah, well I watch on my filthy, tiny little iPhone
and bead that would look good on four K.

Speaker 10 (01:21:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
So and on top of that, we've got HBO coming. Yes,
so we've got a new subscription service coming.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
We do so with all that in mind, I mean,
is this the point where you just say I've had
enough of subscriptions? Are you starting to say it's too much?
Particularly when it comes to those entertainment and TV choices?
Are you starting to look at some of those, you know,
the lights of Netflix and Amazon Prime and saying I'm
done with that. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call? Nine two ninety two is the

(01:22:11):
text I would to say, I am. I ditched Netflix,
and I even ditched dare I say at Spotify? It
was a little bit awkward before that. We needed something
uploaded from Spotify and I actually got rid of it
because I don't use it as much as I needed to.
But that is that can be kind of awkward when
people say, you know, you're in the car and say
we listened to some music. Sorry I don't have Spotify,

(01:22:31):
but for nineteen bucks a month, I just thought, sod it,
I'm not going to have Spotify. I'll just watch YouTube
for free. A couple of punishing heads.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
Yeah, it is an interesting one, isn't it, Because Yeah,
at what point do you go, this is what this
article is suggesting, right, That's that's one of the ways
over years, over time, it accumulates and you're actually would
be better to just be putting that money on your mortgage. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
I mean, I'm just thinking here because we've talked about
this before, but I think it's the god honest truth.
This the amount of subscriptions that have been pushed towards
us and the split up in terms of content that
you've got to have five different TV subscriptions to get
the whole gamut of everything that's on offer. That is
turning people to piracy. I think more and more people

(01:23:22):
are just saying, sod that, I'm just going to go
on some dodgy website, get a virus on my computer,
and watch it all for free. I think that's what's
going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Yeah, this probably is going to happen, but I know
if I agree with your logic. So it's like you're
walking past the jewelry store and you see a whata
you like and you go, I can't afford that. That's
pushing me towards Staley.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
There's too many jewelry stores. I can't decide, So I'm
just going to take it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Yeah, that logic's not right, but I mean, it is
so easy to pirate video content. So easy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Yeah, you don't need many skills to do it, Like,
it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Take any more time than it takes to turn on
your streaming service.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Yeah, very much. Yeah, yeah, it's very easy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
So that's what they're competing against us, be a level
where they where they start losing people to it, right.
But the other thing with it is, say you you know,
do you do a mental audit on whether you're just
going to Netflix, flicking through finding nothing to watch. So
you go to the next one, flick through, find nothing
to watch, the finance, find something you hate to watch
eventually and fall asleep in front of the TV. You know,

(01:24:28):
there's there's an audit of how much joy you're getting
for how much money's going out of your bank account.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Yeah, so what do you say, I wan, one hundred
eighty ten eighty Have you had enough of the multiple subscriptions?
Have you started to shut some of them down? Or
are you ticking up even more of them with the
emergence of HBO, max I Wight one hundred eighty ten
eighty s at number to call nine two nine two,
So text that's fourteen plus three talks that'd be sixteen
past three. Have you had enough of subscription services and

(01:24:52):
are you starting to get rid of some of them?
Get a craig?

Speaker 23 (01:24:56):
Yeah, Hey guys, Yeah, is there ironic that we've got
sad that we've got to the stage where we have
to have a manager? The manager of subscriptions is bloody horrible.

Speaker 8 (01:25:05):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 23 (01:25:09):
My son in law showed me so what they were
paying a month, and he's got an app where it's
all it's all recorded, right, and then the app order
pays pays it once a month for him, and it
was in the hundreds and hundreds of dollars by the
time you're adding the expensive ones. Sky is the most expensive,
but even YouTube has got ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Yeah, but what I'd say is you've got to think
about what you spend the most time on. And I
spend by far the most time on YouTube, and so
for me it's worth paying because I'd like to think
I was going to watch a movie, but then I
just go on YouTube and watch endless, Yeah, endless, endless, recciato,
music analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Whatever you want on YouTube, though, at least be honest,
like whatever you want to watch YouTube or.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Wear it, because because the worst thing is if you
the horrible feeling, Craig is that you've got a subscription
that's rolling on and you're not using it. I mean,
at least if you've got a subscription you're actually using,
then that's that's good.

Speaker 23 (01:26:02):
But I reckon, Yeah, I think if you get if
you get so it's so easy to get addicted to
Sky sport for some of us, you know, lean that way,
and then you're right. I hardly ever switched Netflix on,
but they have to have it in the in the
house for people perhaps who.

Speaker 11 (01:26:15):
Do watch it.

Speaker 23 (01:26:16):
I think the other thing that's going on here is
surely the subscription services are missing a trick here because
if Sky sorry is not Sky separate. But if YouTube
has almost doubled in the last is that right, Matt,
last eighteen months, it's almost doubled. Surely, surely people like
me who I love Ricky Artla and all the others.

(01:26:38):
But we'll give that up first. If they kept it
at a couple of bucks a months, I'll just leave
it on. So I'm not sure that they're making that
much extra because people it gets to the stage where
like you guys are saying, now when as soon as
it's fifteen and eighteen and twenty two dollars a month

(01:26:58):
and there's five or six or eight of them, then
we start to use our discretion where if it's ten
bucks a month and we just leave them on. So
I think they're missing a trick surely.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
To be fair to YouTube, I've just looked that up
because I didn't know Craig. But YouTube is a bit
of an outlier that so they raise their prices for
the first time since twenty twenty three in April this year,
and it went up two dollars per month. So it
now costs fifteen dollars ninety nine for the basic YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Yeah okay, and that's no ads.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
That's no ads.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
So what's the biggest, bigger one family or something.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Yes, you got the family for twenty six ninety nine
a month, twenty seven bucks the YouTube premium lights, I
don't actually know what that is. Ad free no music
still has some ads. That's nine buck a month.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Because the thing is crazy that.

Speaker 23 (01:27:43):
Fills you up with ads if you're watching music or
the ripley Atro shows and those other music rights.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Okay, when you go back, you know, for whatever reason,
you're knocked off premium and you're just using normal YouTube.
The amount of ads is. It's funny because your whole
life you watch ads on TV and you're like, oh,
that's what you do, you watch ads. But then when
you get used to not having ads on YouTube, as
soon as you get an ad, it's the worst thing
that's ever happened to. You hate the client. And I

(01:28:09):
actively anyone that pops up on a YouTube ad, I go,
I will never ever use that product so few years ago,
and that's what.

Speaker 23 (01:28:16):
We all think, right, So I just I sometimes wonder
the people who are running the It's like some of
the social media stuff that gets put in front of us,
you know, a sixty year old man watching baby ads
or whatever it might be. It's just I sometimes wonder
the marketing people of if they really think about from
a consumer's perspective, what makes them like and if they're liked,

(01:28:37):
then they're more likely to say subscribed to. So I
don't know, but you're right though, I think it's a
really good topic of discussion. Will be interesting to what
other people think that as it's now got two in
the teens and then the twenty somethings, that we will.

Speaker 11 (01:28:53):
All be way more discretionary with what we.

Speaker 23 (01:28:56):
Do, or we might pick and choose or or you know,
we might do half six months on Amazon or six
months on or whatever, because.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
You can you can completely rinse their back catalog, yeah,
in that time and then turn it off.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:29:10):
Anyway, Hey, great, check guys. Really interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
You're cool, Craig, appreciate it. Quentin, how are you?

Speaker 11 (01:29:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:29:17):
Good thing?

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Yeah you good, mate, Quintin or Quentin.

Speaker 15 (01:29:20):
Wow, I just take it anywhere it comes, really Quentin. Yeah,
well that's how it's about.

Speaker 11 (01:29:27):
But so many people call me Quentin.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Okay, right, so mate, when it comes to subscriptions, it
hurts you, but you just take a deep breath and
pay the money.

Speaker 15 (01:29:39):
Oh look, I just love watching movies and TV series
and you know, like that's basically my hobby. So I
work outside, so when I come inside, you know, when
I at the weekends, now, I don't really want to
go out because I've been out all day during work, right,
so I've got just about everything, and yeah, I don't.

(01:30:02):
I don't like Neon. I really don't like Neon, but
I have to have it because like the yellow Stone
was on in the Marshall and like they drag you
out and then as soon as you think I'm going
to start, they go, oh, guess what the Marshal's coming on?
And I'm like, no, I need to see that it on.

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Is he a stone in HBO?

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
No, No it's not, as it's a paramount. Yeah, because
Neon's about to lose all its HBO stuff and they're
bringing an HBO Max Max streamer in which will have
a whole lot of different stuff on it soon. Neon
might not because I've always I've always thought Neil was
pretty good, just because I love the HBO stuff, you know,
and well priced. Well, it depends what you obviously want

(01:30:43):
to watch, right, Yeah, well what one do you spend
most of your time on at Quentin.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Prime like Amazon Prime Prime.

Speaker 15 (01:30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
So honestly that was my favorite and now it's my
least favorite because, like you mentioned it before, the ads,
but also when I find something that I wanted to
watch and be like this is great, and then there's
a wee thing that that's going to cost you eight
dollars to rent, Like, what the hell do you not
find that weed?

Speaker 15 (01:31:08):
The weird thing about Prime is there has some really
really good quality stuff, but it has the worst stuff
as well. A lot of those streamers don't go into
real like C class, you know, rather than a class.
These guys they put everything on.

Speaker 10 (01:31:24):
Yeah, but you never you'd never watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
There's some really like shockingly bad eighties and nineties movies
in there that you cannot measure anyone clicking on even that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Did you see that ice Cube one? War of the Worlds?
That is one of the worst movies I've ever seen?
That was an Amazon Crime original. Jesus, it was bad
and there was a lot, but they were talking about
that one.

Speaker 15 (01:31:46):
It was so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
I've got to keep I've got to keep Amazon Prime
just longer for Greenland two, because I love Greenland Two's
just come out.

Speaker 15 (01:31:54):
Great one was good, it was great. I loved it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Land Man's Fantastic Reaches Great, Invincible is awesome. There's actually
some good stuff fall Out Young sure, like actually falls awesome.
They've got some good stuff. All right, Hey, you go well, Quentin.

Speaker 15 (01:32:09):
Okay, thank you you guys too.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Yes see your mate. Oh one hundred and eighty teen
eighty is the number two course here? Are you like Quintin?
Do you just suck it up and pay the money?
Nineteen ninety two? Is you didn't like the way I
said it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
It's Quinn Quentin.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZB twenty six past three.

Speaker 4 (01:32:35):
Ye I met you.

Speaker 11 (01:32:37):
Oh gooday guys, Carlo good a nephew.

Speaker 3 (01:32:41):
How are you?

Speaker 11 (01:32:42):
I don't know why you guys, these the people you're
paying all these subscriptions. You just well.

Speaker 24 (01:32:49):
Friend of mine said get a fire stick, so I did,
and then he gave me a WhatsApp number or a
dude in the UK, and I thought this is a scam.
But that paid the pounds sixty pounds a year and
I get access to all sports.

Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
I get about fifteen thousand movies. I got about five
thousand series is I can watch all through the Amazon
fire sticks through an app.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Who is this in the UK?

Speaker 11 (01:33:17):
I rather not saying them all, but yeah, it's articular,
but it's ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I've seen it. I mean, you know someone I know
who's got this particular product and it is crazy like
anything that you want. They've even GOTTV, CCTV and zoos
around around the world that if you want to watch
some pandas in China, yeah, they got channel for that.
They channel for that, so that it is out there.

Speaker 11 (01:33:40):
It is out there, so like there are people that
can book you up for certain things. But yeah, you
don't need to pay Netflix.

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Are you worried that you'll go to hell for stealing Matthew?

Speaker 11 (01:33:51):
Well, what's the worst I can do? Just cut it off?
I mean, and then you're going to lose sixty pounds
and so in a year, this dude's going to text
me and say do you want to keep it going?
And you pay another sixty pounds which is about are
one hundred and forty bucks, and it's it's endless. I
can watch everything you sports, USO, sports boxing?

Speaker 24 (01:34:11):
Is he selling?

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Is he selling any cocaine or anything as well?

Speaker 11 (01:34:15):
If he could put it through the fire stick, I
wouldn't say that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
That's the dirty future.

Speaker 11 (01:34:25):
The technologies, it's out there, the VP, that's what it is,
because I think some in the.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
UK, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the the streaming services have
got pretty smart on VPNs, like the BBC streamer. It
goes you're using a vp and you scam get out
of here, right, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:34:43):
I haven't encountered that yet. I haven't encountered.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Yeah, you've got the super VPN. Think if you cool, Matthew,
good luck with whatever comes down your fire stick.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Yeah, absolutely right, great discussion. Thank you very much to
everyone who called antixt on that. We've got headlines next
and then New Zealander of the.

Speaker 5 (01:35:03):
Week US Talk headlines.

Speaker 16 (01:35:08):
Which your Ride new Zealand's number one taxi app? Download
your ride today. The Finance Minister so she can't say
where New Zealand's economy will be in six months as
global oil supply remains disrupted. Nicola Winnis is in the
final stages of preparing this month's budget. She says there's
too many variables to make a prediction. All broadband and

(01:35:30):
mobile services have been restored after customers across the whole
South Island and Lower North were impacted by a widespread
coverage outage for several hours. Today. Greenpeace is demanding the
government take action after Israeli forces intercepted more ships traveling
with a Gaza bound flotilla. It says more than twenty

(01:35:51):
vessels were illegally boarded in international waters overnight. One hundred
and seventy five people have been detained. Methin X has
confirmed the closure of MAWI gas fields will mean the
end of its New Zealand production. OMVs informed the government
MAWI operations will see by the end of the year.
I've come a long way man who bashed taxi driver

(01:36:14):
and assaulted kids running for parliament. You can see the
story at enzidherld dot co dot zed Back to matt
Heath and Tyler Adams The.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Matteath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 25 (01:36:29):
Welcome ladies and gentlemen, once again to the matt Heath
and Tyler Adams Afternoons on z B New Zealander of
the Week our seven daily orgy of positivity, in which
we honor three equally powerful.

Speaker 26 (01:36:43):
Kiwis so without further punishing hyperbolic, sexually charged stage setting,
let's get stuck in with.

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Our first New Zealander of the Week. It's the most
wonderful time of the year.

Speaker 27 (01:37:00):
The first Saturday in May a wholesome, historical Kiwi Day.
It's a weekend our wetlands, early rises, Decoy's friends, family
and swimming doggies and also shotguns.

Speaker 7 (01:37:14):
My my, my, my, my my.

Speaker 26 (01:37:18):
It's duck shooting season, but it's not just about bagging birds.

Speaker 25 (01:37:22):
It's about getting together and getting out.

Speaker 27 (01:37:24):
And the Kiwi grade outdoors. To those about to shoot,
we salute.

Speaker 26 (01:37:29):
You duck Shooting season opening Weekends.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
You are a New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 26 (01:37:36):
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neopunk schipzo pop shit games.

Speaker 3 (01:37:42):
To the word.

Speaker 21 (01:37:47):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
This week they're fantastic album Crazy. Yes, dumb No won
the Classic Record at the TIT Music Award, which is
amazing for two reasons. One, it is the earliest opportunity.

Speaker 26 (01:38:00):
They could have won the award because you're only eligible
after twenty years.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Secondly, it's been twenty years since that record came out,
which makes a lot of us dangerously old.

Speaker 28 (01:38:10):
The mint checks for making a great album two decades
ago and then winning an award for it two days ago,
you get a coveted Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
None, ladies and gentlemen. You may know him as His
Majesty King Charles the Third, by the grace of God,
of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland,
and of his other realms and territories, Head of the Commonwealth,
deffender after faith. But he is also the King of
New Zealand, which makes him a Kiwi.

Speaker 26 (01:38:41):
And this week he has delivered some classic gags to
President Trump and friends in the East Room during the
official state dinner at the White House, like this one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
I cannot help.

Speaker 15 (01:38:52):
Noticing the readjustments to the east wig of the White House,
Mister President.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
Of course, we made our own attempt at real estate
redevelopment of the White House in eighteen fourteen. This is
from from Charles, because on August twenty fourth, eighteen fourteen,
a British army led by Major General Robert Ross burnt
the White House to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
And now he's in the White House cracking wise about it.

Speaker 25 (01:39:22):
King Charles, you are the King of New Zealand, and
you are funny, and now we bestowed upon you your
greatest honor.

Speaker 13 (01:39:29):
Yet you are a man.

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Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:34):
It' the New Zealander of the week. Take it away,
Sir Howard Morrison.

Speaker 29 (01:40:00):
In right, Maddian and Tyler Tyler Adams another fantastic winner.

Speaker 7 (01:40:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:40:45):
Coming up, We're gonna have a chat with musician Greg
Johnson who is coming back for another tour in New Zealand.
It is twenty three to four, Matt Heath.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Tyler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on Matt
Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:41:02):
It'd be It is twenty to four, So Greek. Johnson
is one of New Zealand's most enduring singer songwriters, with
a chores nearly forty years. He's given us songs like
Isabelle Liberty, Don't Wait Another Day and Save Yourself. Now.
Based in l A, Greg is heading back to New
Zealand this October to celebrated sixtieth with a career spanning
show plus new music from his upcoming album Some Nights
Somewhere and Greg joins us on the phone right now, Greg,

(01:41:25):
how are you doing good?

Speaker 7 (01:41:26):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
How are you very good? Mate? So you're turning sixty
and celebrating with this nationwide tour. What made you want
to mark your birthday on stage rather than I don't know,
a beach somewhere.

Speaker 16 (01:41:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:41:36):
Well, to be honest with you, i'd sort of spent,
like most of us, I suppose, sort of in some
sort of denial. It's about you know, age, at what
age you really are? You sort of think, oh, I
say anything, And then I sort of got to the
point thought, you know what, I think it's time to
sort of just sort of wear it and own it,
you know. Yeah, so I thought, there I am, I'm sixty.

(01:41:59):
Quite a few of us didn't make it, and I
did so quite pleased about.

Speaker 3 (01:42:03):
That, right, Yeah, well done. Yeah, that's a good inna.
Speaking of age, if you could, if you could give
some advice to your twenty five year old self, you know,
just starting out and running those Vine Street stories songs
and such, what would you tell them? What would you
tell your twenty five year old self?

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
Oh croaky uh that, you know what. I really don't
know what I could possibly have said. I think I
would have just said stick to your stick to your guns,
and it's pretty much what I did anyway. But yeah,
I mean there was obviously, you know, like anyone, there's

(01:42:40):
a lot of things points where you can look back
say yeah, that was probably a mistake. That was mistake.

Speaker 4 (01:42:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
That no to that.

Speaker 7 (01:42:49):
But but you know that's life, isn't it. Retrospects a
fine thing, but no use really.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
Yeah, true, yeah, absolutely, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
What a stupid question. I'm never asking that one again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
We'll try this one then, Greeks. You're talking to us
from from l A and you've obviously been there for
over two decades. So what what came is bringing you
back to New Zealand? What is it about performing here
that you love?

Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
Well? You know, I have a really a lifelong audience
in New Zealand. That's sort of I suppose a lot
of them kind of just sort of aged aggressfully with me,
you know. And you know, there's certainly that you always
hope there are some new ones coming on board too,
and there are a few showing up at shows now
as well, which is cool. But you know, it's it's

(01:43:38):
just that history of songs really and records that I
guess were played a lot in New Zealand, they really
weren't played much elsewhere.

Speaker 14 (01:43:46):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
I can do a few shows in England, a few
shows in Australia, and a few here occasionally, but my audience,
my bulk audience is really still you know. So it's
it's a nice excuse to go down and catch up
with everyone, and you know, I feel like I'm not
completely divorced from the old country.

Speaker 25 (01:44:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Yeah, what strikes you the most about you home when
you come back to New Zealand?

Speaker 5 (01:44:11):
What what hits you?

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
Just how peaceful it is. Actually the people are people
are They don't seem quite as on edges as everywhere else.

Speaker 9 (01:44:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:44:25):
I think that could be just because I arrive now
and I kind of I'm almost like a tourist, so
I don't I don't, you know, live there for very long,
staying there very long, usually only a few weeks whatever,
and so I kind of come and see all the
good things. Maybe I'm missing.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
I was just thinking as a talkback radio host, I'm
a bit of people. I'm experiencing a lot of people
that are on edge, but maybe equally getting a different
slice of the situation going on.

Speaker 7 (01:44:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's worldwide and it's obviously,
you know, without getting too broad into into these discussions,
but it's it's clearly the Second Industrial Revolution as well underway,
and you don't have to. I'm a big history fan,
and I mean you only have to know a little
bit about the First Industrial Revolution to see so many similarities,

(01:45:16):
you know, with this one as well. I mean, the
pining for nature and stuff is already kicking in, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:45:24):
You want to is that a real animal or is
it a blade runner copy? You know, all that stuff,
it's coming, you know. And I've always hated fake plants,
so that's probably.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Burn the fake plants. Recycle the fake plants.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yeah, yeah, recycle the fake plants. Nothing like nature. Now,
mate your new album some night somewhere, it comes down
in October. What can you tell us about it?

Speaker 7 (01:45:50):
Well, it's you know it, I've really got a great
studio here that I've been sort of building up over
the last decade or more. We've had a great room.
That's that just sounds good. And I suppose, you know,
it's like many of us as we get older as musicians,
we do, you do get better your instruments, hopefully, you know,

(01:46:12):
And so there's a sort of level of I guess
my own understanding of what I'm trying to do gets
clear every year. It doesn't have the same you know,
of course, you're not writing the same songs at sixty
as you do when you're twenty. There's a lot less
chasing girls around these days. You can still do you
can still do it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:33):
It's possible, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Yeah, it doesn't help at all, Yeah exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:46:40):
No, not improved with that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Hey, Greg, we've loved chatting with you, mate, and we're
really looking forward to Evan. You're back in the country
and it sounds like you're your fids to be back
here as well, so we will catch up when you
hear in October. But all the best for the tour
and the album release as well.

Speaker 7 (01:46:57):
Thank you, Matte. Yeah, plus one dot cod It's got
all the details and the venues are amazing this time
around too, beautiful, some beautiful venues Holy Trinity in Auckland
and Jane or other, the Lovely Theater and Christier.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
So there's a lot of cool James Hay Theater, James Hay,
that's stunning, beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
Yeah, mate, it's going to be a fantastic tour.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
I'm going to look it up.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Yeah, it's a beautiful theater, that one. It's going to
be a fantastic tour, mate, and we're all looking forward
to it. So as Greggs has just got a plus
one dot co dot en Z. Make sure you get
in early because that will sell out pretty fast. But
make great to chat with you and we'll catch up
when you're back in the home country.

Speaker 7 (01:47:38):
I appreciate it, gentlemen. Have a great weekend you.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
Too, Sir James Lawrence hay Obe eighteen eighty eight to
nineteen seventy one, New Zealand businessman, local politician and philanthropists.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
Great memory, mate, Well done, Yeah, that is of course
he's pretty good mate. That is of course. Greg Johnson, singer,
songwriter and national treasure. He will be here on to
it in October, so get your tickets at plus one
dot co dot n Z. It is thirteen to four
Z all right. So it's been nearly five weeks since
cars raced around the Formula One track with the war

(01:48:11):
and Iran cancel in the Middle Eastern Grand Prix in
bah Rain in Saudi Arabia Monday March the fifth running
of the Miami Grand Prix in Florida. To visit up,
we've got New Zealand Herald Sports reporter and if one
fanboy Alex powellback in get a mates fanboy girl.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
He's New Zealand's premiere if one journalist.

Speaker 2 (01:48:29):
Oh that's right, sorry mate, Exagger, thank you, Matt. I
don't know he gave me this information. How are you?

Speaker 3 (01:48:33):
I'm a fan boy? Yeah, yeah, it's so new. So
a bit of tweaking on the rigs Alex.

Speaker 30 (01:48:40):
Yeah, So of course that's really been the hotter shoe
all season about have they got these new REGs right
or have they got them wrong? And it looks like
they've taken a bit of a hands up approach a
few minor changes that will hopefully produce some more sort
of consistent racing, lowering the battery usage which means you
can sort of recharge quicker.

Speaker 4 (01:48:58):
But I mean, who knows what's going to happen.

Speaker 30 (01:49:00):
That's sort of been where we've been all year now,
Like you don't know what's going to happen track to track.
Do we have a situation where this is you're going
to change anything or will it just create more problems?

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
Well we always care about primarily Liam, don't we. So
how does Miami treat Liam?

Speaker 30 (01:49:17):
I mean last year was his first time doing it.
He got pinged in the sprint race for an overtake
on ferandul On, so that put him into the wall
and another chapter of that primate, and then in the
Grand Prix he got taken out on the first lamp
by Jack Doing and what proved to be the Aussies
last act and f one before he was sacked. Yeah,
so last year wasn't great, but I mean, if anything
that we've seen this year is what we go by,

(01:49:38):
he's going to be brilliantly poised to kick on.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Yeah, and there's talk about some pretty inclement weather and
that could plaind to Liam's hands because he's a tidy
operator and a little bit of chaos can help the
midfield teams.

Speaker 30 (01:49:52):
Can We drivers tend to be really good in the wet,
regardless of what championship they're in, because obviously the weather
we have here is pretty inclement at the best of times.
So if there is a bit of where like remember
in Las Vegas last year when it was bucketing down
and qualifying and Liam put his car what six Ye,
I can't remember that that was wasn't even that long ago.
But he is a really good drive in the wet.

(01:50:13):
The European drivers in particular don't really get as much
exposure to it as what maybe the in the English
drivers definitely do, but definitely for what Len Lawson is
used to. It could be good things if it is
a wet weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Yeah, and I think the time is pretty good for us,
isn't it for race day anyway? I think p one,
you might need to get up pretty early.

Speaker 30 (01:50:31):
That's a four am start tomorrow and on Sunday. But
right like, I'm kind of in this false sense of
reality now because the two overnight races that start the
era were both canceled, so I've.

Speaker 4 (01:50:41):
I've had some great sleep follow it's been good for
en racing.

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
Yeah, yeah, well enjoy it because it's this weekend and
then just because of the stupidity of the well the unfortunateness,
really there's a big get before Canada, so it's coming
back and it's gone to again, So I enjoy it
this weekend likewise.

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
Get amongst it. That is Alex Powell, how did you
phrase it New Zealand's premium if one.

Speaker 4 (01:51:02):
Reporter again, disagree, but thank you, Matt Slash.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
If one thing Yellen's premiere, I think that's what I say.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Yeah, love to see you mate, So those times again.
Practice one is tomorrow at four thirty am and the
main race Monday at eight am. Give them a taste, Liam,
how good?

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
Yeah, aight, am, that's a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
That certainly is right. It is ten to four. Backary shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used Talk zed.

Speaker 2 (01:51:33):
B News Talk zed B. It is seven to four
and that brings us to the end of another show.

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
Thank you so much for listening, and thanks so much
for all your calls and texts for the last four
hours of live radio.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Absolutely and of course we get so many great kiwis
calling into our show that every week we pick a
call of the week, And this week we had a
great chat about whether it's okay to use artificial intelligence
AI in real estate imagery and video when we had
a call from Joshua, who was a passionate videographer for
real estate agents and an ethical one at that.

Speaker 20 (01:52:04):
Well, I can actually do it, but a tooth again,
the integrity part would play here and then plus like
it would definitely backfire. I know that it would definitely
backfire to us when the buyer or the prospect buyer
would see the property.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Yeah, good on you, Joshua. And what about the videos
you've got the real estate agents introducing the house standing
out the front. Sometimes they want to sing a song
or do a little bit of a you know, five
in the poll. Sometimes they want to put a bit
of flair into the videos. Do you ever do that stuff? Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:52:37):
But most of the real estate agents they don't want
to do that, which is fair enough to He was
a lovely guy, josh you are passionate.

Speaker 3 (01:52:45):
Yeah, any great calls this week?

Speaker 7 (01:52:47):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
The Paul Holmes Broadcaster of the Year, the Great and
Powerful Hither duplec Ellen is up next, and after five
she's got Ron Mark, the former Defense Minister, on whether
or not New Zealand should help the Americans reopen the
Strait of hor moves.

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
But right now, Tyler, my good buddy, why am I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Playing this fantastic tune from The Sweets nineteen seventy four
album defilation of Boulevard.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Well played again, mate, all rumblats. I don't even want
to talk if I want to hear this is such
a great song. But of course we had a great
hour about how much the ball costs for high school students.
You know it again, man, you know it again. This
is a great song.

Speaker 11 (01:53:31):
Here we go.

Speaker 12 (01:53:40):
Oh what a great what a great song.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
All right, Tyler and I are off next week, so
we'll see you sometime later in May.

Speaker 8 (01:53:51):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Until then, thank you so much for listening, and give
them a taste of k we from our sway.

Speaker 28 (01:53:59):
Ain't you.

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Seemed busy? We'll let you go.

Speaker 9 (01:54:08):
Do that, so thick coy over you dudes yourself in work.

Speaker 7 (01:54:19):
Welcome the part.

Speaker 3 (01:54:22):
Of the pack of cradyes and crack of the railing
and plans of much guy, I'm the girl in the collar,
and everyone months, I'll can kill you with a weak
wick garage. Yeah that's dream sopranically hotic and the that's
not a living because they are not really.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
The man at the back said, everyone attack them and
turn to tell a bottle of listen the god and the.

Speaker 15 (01:54:49):
Cons a bi try to tell about the plank bart bases.

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
Everybody was winding the musical.

Speaker 5 (01:55:19):
Sing everyone Mattie and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
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