Full Show Podcast: 02 July 2026

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Thursday the 2nd of July 2026, EV registrations are up 169 percent for the March quarter, is New Zealand reaching a tipping point of acceptance of greener transportation?

Then, we discuss moving to another country without making good preparations - this as Queensland says a number of New Zealanders are getting a rude awakening.

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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Very very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Thursday show.
Really good to have your company and thanks very much
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on this Suesday?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I am very good. Thank you. Tyler Adams very good
in deed O E one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number and A nine two nine two. If
you would like to text us, We love to hear
from you, don't.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
We We absolutely do big show for you today and
this is going to be a big topic this hour.
So we want to talk about EV's and Soulis. So
June was an absolute boom quarter when it comes to EV's.
This is full electric and plug in hybrid vehicle sales.
They are up, get this to combine, one hundred and
sixty five percent. So clearly a part of that increase

(01:12):
was the price of fuel. That has had an impact,
but inframetric spread Olsen. He says anecdot to evidence is
that elevated efi's sales are set to continue. He says
they're hearing from many people, many households that are still
keen to move to something cheaper to run than petrol
or diesel. Many of the households are telling them that
the move and price is hard to keep up with,

(01:34):
and more and more they seem to like the idea
of having an EV. But all of this comes with
increasing moves around making solar easier and cheaper to install
as well. National of course, this week promised to introduce
a home energy fund that offers low interest, long term
loans paid on your rates for solar without those massive
upfront costs or the need for council consent.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yes, so if you bring these two things together, a
solar about to hit a tipping point and become mainstream
with panels on the roof and an EV getting charged
in the garage. So moving from a moral choice because
you want a single signal to the neighbors that you
care about the environment, look at my solar panels, yep,

(02:15):
aren't I virtuous that kind of thing to a money choice, yes?
Or is this just going to remain a niche thing
for people with money and roof space. For it had
a tipping point, a lot of people would bet would
have to be seeing it. You know, you see someone
if the two things are combining. If you start seeing

(02:36):
your neighbors with solar panels and they're charging up their
ev that's how things reach tipping point when it becomes
financially sensible to do it, and also you start seeing
other people doing it. Could it reach a tipping point?
This textas says Matt, I love your work, but resolar panels,
you don't have to have them on the roof. I

(02:57):
have them in my paddic because I don't want them
penetrating my roof as their guarantees wouldn't cover that if
it leaks.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Right, you saying do you have a paddock?

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Do you have a paddock?

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, I got a nice paddock where you could lay
out some solar panels. Got a front yard you can
get a few on there.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Can you put them up trees?

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Good question? I want one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've got your solar panels on trees, yeah, could
you put them on your photo kawa out the front
of your house and your boom that would be a
good look, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah. Well, I mean there is also balcony solar that's
that's available in some other countries but not here yet. Yeah,
where you have some solar panels on the balcony in
your townhouse through your apartment and then it just has
a plug yep, so you plug and your you know whatever,
your three point plug.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
They're partly solves that issue because there are a lot
of apartment owners and townhouse owners in New Zealand. So
the old balcony solar that's taken off in parts of
Europe and the America for that matter, I mean that's
you know, that's another hurdle that is not quite there
to the extent that it was.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I mean it's still very very small in New Zealand, though, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
It it is? I just had a look at the
numbers and this is recent figures, but the uptake across
the whole country round about six point seven percent of
people have solar, different in different areas. But you know,
you talk about that tipping point six point seven, people say, no,
we're not at that tipping point. But it starts getting faster,
right when you've got national offering to make it a
lot cheaper. I imagine that's a big hurdle for a lot

(04:28):
of people. If I look at solar and think, hey,
I like the idea, but do I have thirty thousand
dollars for the panel in a battery. No, I don't
really have that to spare on the solar. But then
you know, the government comes in and sees, hey, we'll
make it easy. We'll just chuck it a little bit
on your rates over ten years. Then that kind of
takes care of that hurdle, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, that's right. It means that you know, you might
like the idea of it, but you can actually do it,
you know, because it's the upfront bill that's probably stopping
a lot of people, right. But Australia apparently is through
the roof The Australian Energy Council says rooftops solar was
installed on about forty percent of Australian dwellings by April

(05:07):
twenty twenty five. That has gone well, very different though
in New Zealand. There's parts of New Zealand Doug live
a sun.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yes, yeah, So what do you say, I eatee hundred
eighty ten eighty do you think we are nearing that
tipping point where solar will become the norm or do
you still have reservations when it comes to the like
of solar? Tell us your story. I eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is that number to call, And if you
want to teax through nine two ninety two is that
number as well.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Craig says, Hey, guys, I was thinking of solar but
discovered my roof warranty could be voided with putting panels. There,
cheers Craig. Is that a wide ranging problem?

Speaker 5 (05:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I mean my mind me and my roof doesn't have
a warranty. I'm going to painted it myself. That's right,
fixed up myself.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I had to sort out the liking.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, so I didn't give myself a warranty.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
If you've run into that trouble, please we're keen to
hear your story. Give us called I eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. It is twelve past one. We will be
back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Mad Heathens Afternoons, used TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
News Talks the B. It is fourteen past one, So
are we starting to reach a tipping point when it
comes to solar. This is on the back of EV's
and plug in hybrids out selling traditional petrol vehicles for
the June quarter this year, and of course a whole
bunch of new initiatives coming for solar, such as National's
promise to make it a hell of a lot easier.

(06:32):
They're going to have interest free loans if you want
solder on your property and pay it three your rates.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
This says, guys, what parts of New Zealand don't get
the sun? Because most New Zealand gets good sun even
during winter. Well with solar panels, you know the sun
and then there's sun right And the thing about winter
is the sun comes in on an angle, so it's weaker.
You get less photons on your cells, aren't you. Yes,
So there is parts of New Zealand that I would

(06:56):
say would struggle in winter around around the solar I
mean the West coast.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Definitely a lot of rain on the West Coast, a
lot of cloudy days, a lot of rainy days.

Speaker 7 (07:06):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I grew up in Dunedin, live in Auckland now, but
I feel like in my beautiful hometown of Dunedin, love
it so much but I feel like there was long
periods of low hanging cloud.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, can get pretty dark and old donners. I eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. So if you've gone solo,
how is it working out for you? And do you
think we are reaching that tipping point where more of
us will look at the viability of that option? Nineteen
ninety two is the text.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
So the sixers Andrew says, the providers keep saying prices
are coming down, but it always seems to be thirty
K for panels and batteries. Why is that? So if
you are a provider, are the prices coming down? Because
I was looking at like the EECA says, a small
to medium home solar system typically costs around eleven thy

(07:51):
five hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, that's a big price reduction. I mean I've always
thought it was thirty k, but is that wrong?

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, thirty ks always been twenty five to thirty k's
always been the number in my head. Yeah, as it
come down from that, I'd like to know.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, tell us on one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number? Lee? How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 8 (08:09):
Are you good?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
So you've tried to get solder on your on your house.

Speaker 9 (08:13):
Twice I have in the last five years, and each
time I've been told that I'm not able to do
it because I'm not allowed to put the panels on
the front of my house because I live in it
in a city suburb in Auckland, and it upsets the
look of that street, so that all the houses in
my street will not be.

Speaker 6 (08:27):
Able to do that.

Speaker 9 (08:27):
We've I've got a fairly standard villa and we'll all
be in the same boat.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
So just get straight on the roof, the front roof
of your house.

Speaker 9 (08:37):
Yeah. So, so there's not enough ref at the back
to support a system for me to make it viable.
So I need to go on the front and the back.
So you can't put them on the front of the
houses where they can sing from. This can be seen
from the streets.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Right, and so that's a heritage situation.

Speaker 9 (08:53):
Yeah, So we were so that that would apply to
street the houses in the street that I live, and
I live in Grayland, You'll be.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Pretty close to that sort of area. I mean, there's
a lot of heritage sites around. Obviously pontsmbe Mount Eden.
Mount Needed is a massive suburb, but there's a lot
of those arguable heritage areas, So that would have been
a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But you're saying if it was on the if it
was only on the back growth lee, then it's not
a problem.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
If it was only on the back.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
But there's not necessarily.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
Enough dream in those houses that would support you doing it.
Do you know what I mean to have done? It's
still I still it wouldn't cover the power that I
needed to cover to the house. It wouldn't bear It's
not an option.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Really, that's interesting because I wouldn't say that. I mean
a solar panels that ugly? Is it just because they're
futuristic and not in keeping with the sort of villa
vibes flee? Is that is that the rationale?

Speaker 9 (09:46):
Yeah, it's a herege' that's the rule. That's the current rule.
That was the current system two years ago and five
years ago when I tried to get them done. But yeah, no,
it's just you know, I it's changed in two years.
But that's the answer I've been given twice another a
couple of suppliers, and I say, oh no, I can't not. Sorry.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
On the surface, that makes no sense to me because
we're not talking about bowling houses and put up townhouses
or apartment blocks. We're talking about solar that's beneficial for
you as a household, a beneficial arguably for the country
if more and more people do it. I mean to me,
heritage be damned. You know, it's your house and you're
not demolishing it. It's still there, the character's still there.
It's just got some panels on it.

Speaker 10 (10:27):
Right.

Speaker 9 (10:28):
Well, it just speaks to a rule that was made
some time ago, and it would be something to do
with the modification of our house. It won't actually even
have They wouldn't have. Really. I don't think I debated
this issue at great length, you know, like it's just
probably a technicality, but more people need to say, listen,
that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, thank for you, cool Lee. We'll look into that.
That's an interesting one. Is there anyone else out there
one hundred and eighteen eighty that hasn't been allowed to
put solar panels on due to regulations around you know, heritage.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
What's your thoughts on that? So it makes it like
I can see why they've had the rule there.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
I just don't think that if I'm driving down a street,
or if I was buying a house that i'd really
you know, I get the front of a villa, you know,
for all the finials and such, But I mean the
corrugated iron roof. Is that really the bit that you're
excited about around a villa?

Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Would anyone care? I mean, you can have all different
kinds of roofs. You can paint in any color you want,
can't you?

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Baden would care, he said. Good panels are beep and ugly?

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Are they are? They just sort of like big sort
of black flat operators.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
It just looks like a black tile, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Panel's ugly?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Do you like baiden? Do you think they are an esore?

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty? Would you not get
solar panels because they're ugly?

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Tell us. Nineteen ninety two is the text number as well.
We'll get to a couple of those shortly. It is
twenty past one.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Fearless, focused informed. It's the myke Hosking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Nikola Willis, Finance Minister is with us re GDP. There
is growth to come this year and there is more
of that next year. Everyone seems the green banks and
that the whole lot of them.

Speaker 11 (12:02):
Yeah, they do. The I am here for slightly more
optimistic about how strong growth.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Could be this year.

Speaker 11 (12:08):
Broadly, they see it recovering after what I think you
all know was a difficult second quarter, and the bank
economists through all falling in line in that regard. Recent
data is positive. You will have seen business confidence out
from there, A and Z this week that's really bounced
back and pricing intentions aren't taking off, which is good
for the inflation picture as well.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
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Speaker 2 (12:34):
Twenty three past one. Do you think we're starting to
see a tipping point when it comes to solar This
is on the bank of EV sales and plug in
hybrids outpacing petrol cars in the June quarter.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Matt and Tylim commenced more sun in Dunedan winter than summer.
I think solar panels would work well here in Dunedin,
So I'd love to hear from you if you're running
solar in Dunedin. I mean, I'd hate to run down
my hometown and say that it's not a great place
for solar.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah. If it's working for you down and Donners and
further south. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number two? Call Allen. You've got a bit of solar.

Speaker 12 (13:09):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
I'm in Telpo. As for cloudy days, you get mono
solar panels and they'll work on cloudy days and in
the rain.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
All right, So how does that work?

Speaker 6 (13:22):
They just face up towards the sky and the sun
shines on them even on a cloudy day, and it
puts power into your house.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Won't be it won't be as much energy as direct
direct sunlight, though, will it, Ellen, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
But then you get direct sudden night. What it is,
these panels are more sensitive on a cloudy day and
on a straight out brilliant sunny day, our battery is
fully charged even before eleven o'clock in the morning, and
the rest of it we just sell to the grid.
So that's the big bearing. You got to have a battery.

(13:58):
If you don't have a battery, you are chucking money
away and still paying the power company. And I vowed
over eight years ago. I got sick of the power
companies are ripping us off. I'd go the other way.
So went the other way. To be self sufficient well,
and we're ninety six percent self sufficient. What we do

(14:18):
is we just top up off the grid at one
o'clock in the morning to top Albatria. Otherwise we're self sufficient.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Are you protecting? Are you a bit technically minded? Allan?
Sounds like you've set up the system to work for yourself.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Oh no, no, I got a power company and to
do it and our electrician And that's the costly part.
You've got to rewire your house with a switchboard to
control it. But if you put Mono per panels on you,
I'd do it down the West Coast, I'd do it anywhere.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
But good on you, Ellan.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, sounds like we're going have pretty well for Allan.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Hey guys, good chats is the sex. So we're in
Donners and have been off the grid for thirty years,
both with solar and wind. Very rarely need to start
the generator for backup as solar supply as most of
what we need running a normal sized house, but just
need to pack the days to do chores at this
time of year. And for your information, we have hardly
had any dull days this winter. Sola a great way

(15:20):
to go for us, so much cheaper there now than
when we put panels on our first led lights had
to be Christmas Birthday presents thirty years ago. They were
thirty dollars each. We also have home, a home in
central and have solar tied to the grid. Works great
there too, cheers.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Happy days. Working very well for that. To need a
night so.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Interesting, you know, I need to, I need to bloody
eat my words. New Zealand as a good country for
solar better than what you'd think seeing is. We sometimes
called the land of the long white clouds. This is texter.
We're not Australia level, but definitely viable. In fact, we
have more annual sunshine energy than Germany, which is one

(16:04):
of the world's biggest solar adopters.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Right, give them a taste of keywing. Keep those keep
those teams coming through term.

Speaker 12 (16:11):
How you doing, Yeah, good mate, yourself?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Good? What do you reckon?

Speaker 8 (16:15):
Yeah, I've got I've got sola.

Speaker 12 (16:17):
We got it installed TEP October last year. We've got
a heritage home and our rules might be slightly different.
But also we've got an extension out the back of
our house that was done ten years ago. We put
solar on that side, so it's basically it's not north facing,
that's east west and yet really good. Basically had zero

(16:39):
powerballs until last month for the year, and so that
came as a little bit of a shock, and just
with the days being be shorter and the angle of
the sun.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, of course it wasn't great last.

Speaker 12 (16:51):
Month and next probably two or three months and be
like that. But the credits we built up over summer
will probably take it down to pretty much too near
zero dollars on the powerball. Obviously there's an outlay cost
of getting it. The cost for us for our system
of tim Keller White cost about seventeen grand no battery.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
How long ago was that Tom, Well, six.

Speaker 12 (17:17):
Eight months ago?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Right?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
And did you say no batteries.

Speaker 12 (17:20):
No batteries for us?

Speaker 13 (17:21):
No?

Speaker 12 (17:21):
We I mean so people obviously sweared by their own situation.
For us, the return on investment wasn't quite worth it
was with basically the warranty on the battery you would
have been paid off around the same time the warranty
was up. So we just went with the panels five
year return on investment twenty five year warranty. So it's

(17:42):
a no brainer for us, really, yes, and put on
here in the Wipe.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
District, right, Yeah, and so you've got a herotage time
as well. But I take it it's not a problem there.

Speaker 12 (17:55):
It's not a problem. Well, I mean, we got approval
from the council, so it was one hundred and fifty
year old house and yeah, but the part that we
put on wasn't street facing. It was kind of about
the back on the extension.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Right, and so not having the battery. I imagine that
saved you a fear wak How much did it cost
just for the panels?

Speaker 12 (18:15):
Yeah, so seventeen k installed. That's what two inverts though,
because we're on two phays, So if we're on a
single phase, property would have been maybe three or four
grand lists, so it would have been around thirteen. So yeah,
I mean there's a lot of people who kind of
like who say, oh, you know, it's sort of like
there only last for a few years or whatever, and
so well, if they do, then we've got a warranty
that sees otherwise, and you know, I don't know, it

(18:38):
seems it also does seem that since National have brought
out their policy, there's a few there's quite a few
people who have kind of changed changed their opinions on
that fact, which is great. But yeah, yeah, it's been interesting,
you know, like there's a lot of naysayers out there
around it. But and obviously every property is different, like

(18:59):
if it's surrounded by trees or mountains or you know,
get shout out by shade, then it's not ideal. But
for probably I don't know, I don't know, you've looked
at other people situations, but for a lot of properties,
it's you know, untapped. Really are you in.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Town or are you sort of rural like farm land
kind of situation.

Speaker 12 (19:20):
We're well, we're in the town if you could call that,
in the village.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
So yeah, you're on the on the streets is what
I mean. So you know, surrounded by other houses kind
of thing. But yeah, yeah, but they don't mind you.
I think panels not like Grayland, not precious old Graylean
in Auckland.

Speaker 12 (19:37):
Yeah, I mean, no one, no one really noticed it.
You'd have to be kind of like there's a very
slight angle you could see them on our property that
they aren't. You can't really tell. Our neighbors would see it,
but you know, our neighbors were kind of fifteen your
old house anyway.

Speaker 9 (19:49):
So.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
How far are you guys from Tia Mudu. I'll be
eight caves, okay, I'm just getting my head around where
the places interesting?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh well, good luck.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It sounds like it's working out fantastically for you. Tim,
So good on your mate. He's got he's running the
no battery set up.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
He's doing well. I mean that seems risky. But if
you're doing that as well, I'll waite hundred eighty ten eighty.
I mean, you save a lot of cash without that battery,
but if you get enough sunlight during the day tell us.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Hey Fellers says this text to some free advice, Do
not install Solo until you have replaced your roof, unless
you want to pay twice to get them removed and
again for reinstatement. So many times I see panels installed
over a leaking, old rusty bucket. It's just stupidity.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, that is stupidity if that's happened to you, tell
us I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean that's stinky, old, leaky, old, rusty old, like
any roof, try and patch it up with some solar panels. Yep,
bloody idiots?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Does it work? Tell us nine two nine two coming
up after the headlines, we will have a chat with
Mike Casey. He's the CEO of rewiring Alterroa. They've recently
done a study on how much he reckons or they reckon.
You can save if you've got a solo set up
and an EV and it's quite a bit of cash
that's coming up. It is twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 2 (22:21):
Thank you very much, Wendy. We're talking about the uptake
of solar and ev'sus after a recent study claim that
by fitting your home out with solar panels and swapping
to an electric vehicle could save you three thousand bucks
a year. But just how much is the solar uptake
actually increasing? Joining us now is Mike Casey, CEO of
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Speaker 3 (22:42):
Lads, how are we very good? Thanks for chatting to us.
It's the price of a solar setup coming down in
New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (22:48):
It is it is coming down in price, and I think,
combined with all of the nasty stuff happening overseas, tyrants
starting wars, I think we're starting to realize more and
more that are generating our own energy is far better
than buying it from overseas.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
How viable is an EV home solar set up where
you got the EV in the garage of the or
the driveway, and you're powering that in your house with solar.

Speaker 15 (23:11):
So basically what we're advising New Zealanders is we want
them to make six good decisions in the next ten years,
which basically means the next time it comes to buying
a new machine for your home, whether it's your car,
whether it's your hot water system or your cook top
or whatever, it might be, now the time to make
it electric because pretty much and almost all circumstances, the
lifetime cost of buying an electric machine will be cheaper

(23:33):
than the fossil fuel machine. And then when you're ready
throwing some solar on the roof and a battery in
the garage, it only helps with those savings.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
So are we close to some kind of tipping point
in which this EV solar setup moves away from being
the rich person moral signaling signaling choice market and becomes
a mainstream decision, a money decision.

Speaker 15 (23:58):
You know I took David Seymour for a joy ride
and one of the fastest evs in New Zealand a
couple of months back, and his line and this whole process.
He was giggling like a school driving up the remarkable
ski road in this electric vehicle, and the line that
I just love that he put out was it's not
woke if it works. And there's just so many demonstrations

(24:19):
now around New Zealand of people pretty much eliminating their
energy bills or coming very close to eliminating their energy
bills by doing so. The issue was probably at the
moment that you know, there is still an upfront capital
costs which means only certain households and families can access
this technology. And so one of the big things we're
all about is trying to find new exciting ways of
allowing more entry for more New Zealanders, whether that's through

(24:41):
finance like the what the National Party just announced their
Home Energy fund, right through to things like plug and solar,
which obviously has a much lower price point than a
professional installation on your rooth.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
What's it there with line fees and you know, pumping
excess electricity back into the grid, is that a realistic
thing in New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (24:59):
It is a realistic thing in New Zealand. And that's
another thing that's actually just been announced very recently is
making sure that the big energy players pay fairly for
the energy that has been humped by customers back into
the grid. You might have seen that announcement only.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
A couple of months ago.

Speaker 15 (25:12):
Gone to the days where you know certain energy providers
will only pay you eight cents of Killer What hour
when they're charging you forty per cent of Killer what
out and take it from the grid. That is going
to start getting a lot better now, which is which
is pretty exciting, But line's fees are still an issue.
We've got to figure out the future energy system of
New Zealand and how that is to be priced appropriately.

(25:33):
We want people to stay on the grid. The cheapest
energy you're ever going to get is energy from your
own rooftop. The second cheapest energy you're ever going to
get it should be energy from your neighbor's rooftop. So
we want people to stay connected to the grid and
we certainly don't want to drive them off by skyrocketing
it for structure costs. That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Is anywhere in New Zealand that doesn't have enough sun
young around to run solar.

Speaker 15 (25:54):
This is the thing right land of the long white cloud.
For a long time, I think we've tricked ourselves into
thinking it's not sunny, even though we have one of
the largest melanoma rates in the world and we're incredibly
good at farming, which kind of goes against that. And
I think when you when you see the efficiency of
the gains now, I mean, we do not have as
great a solar yield as Australia, but we have very,

(26:15):
very decent solar yield. And to put it in perspective,
if you finance solar on your rooftop at you know,
five point five percent on a standard mortgage rate, you're
probably generating electricity at like eleven cents of killer what hour.
You're probably buying it from the grid at forty cents
a killer what hour. The Australians might you know, be
able to do that at six or seven cents of
killer what hour. The narrative doesn't really change. This is

(26:36):
still the cheapest energy by a country mile.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
And what's the deal with balcony solar? So people can
run it in townhouses and apartments? Why can't we get
that here?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Mike, Well, that's the super exciting thing.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
You know.

Speaker 15 (26:48):
Part of going for a joy ride with David Seymour
was to get him to think about unlocking a whole
bunch of this new technology for New Zealander's He's now.

Speaker 13 (26:57):
Got the goal of.

Speaker 15 (27:00):
Making solar installations or New Zealand the most efficient place
in the world to instill solar. That's a really good
initiative because it's going to help all New Zealands get
the stuff. And one of those key things is plug
and solar. For those that don't know what that is.
You should be able to go down to Bunning soon,
buy a solar panel and plug it into your normal
wall socket with you within your home and immediately start

(27:21):
generating energy to save on your power bills. And we
think it could save seven to fourteen percent for most
households in New Zealand, which is not insignificant with the
price of power bills where they're at.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
And so this note that's just you just go down
and you buy it and you plug it in and
you don't have to have a conversation with anyone else.
That's just your decision.

Speaker 15 (27:38):
Correct currently illegal in New Zealand. I think we've got
you know, cross party support for approving it, and so
really my goal is to hopefully get this approved before
the election. If not, then obviously after the election will
get the job done and more and more new Zealanders
will have access to this technology and be able to
save money.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yeah, So is that a big part of it, Mike.
You know we've heard from people with they had issues
with Heritage House and regulations and consent. This about councils
in government getting out of the way.

Speaker 15 (28:04):
Yeah, essentially, right, Like the way that I like to
say it is, we want to get the government off
off off everyone's roofs. We want them to be able
to do this stuff really, you know, really easily. We've
been fighting really hard for announcements that have come through
around for farmers in particular, who had all sorts of
issues with the resource can consent that varied wildly from
council to council. We've got things out of line, like

(28:24):
no consents on pre consented buildings, you know, no tax
for households on exporting power backs to the grid. We
are changing this energy system really really quickly now, and
what I think everyone is starting to realize is just
it doesn't really matter what you think about things like climate.
Everybody wins in the scenario. It drops emissions, it drops that,
it fixes our current account, it saves people money. What's

(28:48):
not to like about this new tech?

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Really?

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And finally, how far away is corrugated solar for heritage times?

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Do you know what?

Speaker 15 (28:54):
I actually couldn't tell you tell you that, but hopefully
not too long. I might actually look into that, because
if that's something that we need to get over the line.
Have you got a hero to chow yourself?

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
I've got a mountain in Bungalow, but I've got enough backyard.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
To consider solo out the back, But you know some
people out the front, yep your camouflage solar solar if
it's that much of a problem. One thing is I
just don't see solar as being as ugly as obviously
some of these heritage decisions. I think it is.

Speaker 15 (29:23):
But I think solar is really much in vogue, whereas
a few years ago it wasn't right. And I think
more and more New Zealanders are just realizing how much
of a slam dunk it is. It's like having your
own private oil well and refinery on your rooftop, especially
if you're whacking it into your new electric use or
your electric vehicle or whatever it might be. And I
think that's just enough to get people over the line.
I'll have a look at that heritage stuff and get

(29:44):
back to you on that front, because in all honesty,
you know, we've got to get everyone across the line,
and that includes people like Ryan Bridge and Mike Hosking,
who I've been egging on for a long time to
put solo on the roofs.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
So we'll see where we get to.

Speaker 16 (29:55):
Eh.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, if you crack the corrugated iron panels, just give
us a buzz back. Met Heath will be a silent partner.
That sounds like a good business, fellas.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
And also, well do I also like the idea of
drill baby drill on my roof as well. See if
there's any oil up there.

Speaker 15 (30:09):
It's a far better way to go, isn't it guaranteed results?
Unlike drilling for oil, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It seems to be. Mike, great to catch up. Thank
you very much for giving us your time.

Speaker 15 (30:18):
Oh, no worries, thanks for having me on talk to you.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
That is my casey CEO of rewiring at so tell
us if you've got solar, is it working out well
for you? Or are you starting to seriously consider it
with the price coming down and these new policies coming
into place. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that
number to.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Call the big stories, the big issues, the big trends,
and everything in between.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
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Speaker 2 (30:44):
That'd be fourteen to two. So do you think we
are nearing the tipping point when it comes to solar
panels and the uptake of EV's I eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is number.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
The Texas is who is the best company to use
for solar installs? Interested in getting it but scared to
avoid cowboys, ripoffs, et cetera. Yeah, what are the good ones?
Who you had a good experience with?

Speaker 14 (31:04):
This?

Speaker 3 (31:05):
Texas is only the cheap Chinese brands are cheaper. Maintain
maintain the cheaper stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
See is this text all right? Keep those coming through?
A nine two niney two tony Yeah, good out here,
going guys, very good. So you've got solo? Who did
you go with?

Speaker 13 (31:22):
I actually just went with one of the local electricians.
I'm just south of Tamurro. I'm in a lifestyle bik
and I built a three bedroom home on a lifestyle
bik and it was going to cost twenty five grand
just to get the cord to the door because it
was quite a long way. You know, it's in the
closest transformer. So I just did the solo and he
installed a small system for me. I'm off good, of course,

(31:44):
and it was fifteen grand. But bear in mind, I
don't use it for heating because I put a log
burner and because I've got trees on this.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Property and with a wet back, so that heat to
hot water as well.

Speaker 13 (31:57):
And I have a gas gas oven, you know, so
it's not an electric oven. But the system you know,
does everything else, you know. And that was about seven
years ago, right, so you don't have to depending on
your situation. You know, everyone's situation is different, like someone
said before. But you know, it's been really great, you know.

(32:19):
And my batteries. I've got eight big batteries, they're probably
sixty three KOs each and I've got twelve panels and.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
How much how much how much is each one of
those batteries?

Speaker 13 (32:35):
Well, how much? And monetary wise, yeah, I've got no idea.
I didn't. I the electrician worked all that out.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, so because there's a lot of batteries.

Speaker 13 (32:48):
Yeah, but he did that because I've never had to
even in the winter time, I've never had to charge
the system up right. He over he overdid it for
me so that, you know, I wouldn't have to worry
about that. So I'm overcapacitized for what I use basically, And.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
How long can those batteries stay charged? Do they lose
charge or do they hold it?

Speaker 13 (33:06):
No, They've actually topped up actually close to one hundred
percent all the time, you know, because I've got more
penalty on the and it just it just keeps the
house right out.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
What a powerful setup you've got, Tony.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Are you rolling an EV.

Speaker 13 (33:23):
No, I don't know, right, I'm actually into VS the
opposite way, to make you think about it.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
You've got all that juice ready to go one hundred percent.

Speaker 10 (33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (33:33):
Yeah, well maybe in the future I might, you know,
just for a rerun around. I actually don't like evs
that much, but but I mean, if you're a building
in a house one, it's an absolute no brainer to
put sol.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
And yeah, well that's that's the difference. If it's going
to hit tipping point, which was the start of this conversation,
then it's going to have to be V eight drivers
like you that get the set up because it makes
sense to solve a problem by the financial or whatever.
The problem is that that's because there's only so many
people that are wealthy enough to have fuck solo on
one evs show off to their mates over a few.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
It has to be.

Speaker 13 (34:11):
I wasn't going to go sold at all. I mean,
I just said I'll just look up to be core.
But it was twenty five grand to get at the door,
and I thought, well, might will go solar. Now they
applus themselves off the market and you've got to be
You've got to be independent. And why I pay that
line charge? You don't have to?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, is it just peace of mind, Tony, that you've
got the set up? You can't be really be damned
with the EV. Maybe you care a little bit about
the environment, but it's more that you've got your set
up and anything goes down on the grab you're you're sorted.

Speaker 13 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not worried about peace of mind.
You know, it's just it's just a no brain. It's
just a sensible thing to do. Why would I pay
twenty five grand just to get a cord to the
door and then have to pay from the power when
it's so reliable, it's so good.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, see that, you get you one over the Tonys
and then you're on the on the path to winning
over the Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's right. Yeah, you get the V eight guys, first,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to
call Carl. You're installing the whole shebang?

Speaker 17 (35:05):
Oh go, guys, Yeah, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Very good? What are you got going on it?

Speaker 17 (35:09):
So, yeah, we have made the decision with me and
my wife just to go all in car, solar panels,
the whole spang. So I've just got basically a list
of things that since I've experienced to help anyone that's
doing it as we are currently doing it. So, first
of all, you got to get the green loan, which

(35:30):
is what made it possible. And that's actually harder than
you think to get. And I mean I'm a professional
tradesman and my wife's a professional teacher and they're still
still quite tough as so it's not that easy to
get the green loan. It took about a month maybe
six weeks. So there's a lot of analyzing, you know,
all your current situation and we've finally got it over line.

(35:52):
So we've currently as we speak, I've got an ev
in our position and getting the panels put up this
week and very exciting. But yeah, there's a little bit
in it.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Like the roof.

Speaker 17 (36:04):
I've heard some talks about the roofing that absolutely you
got to check the roof condition a like we've had
to go all out on the roof as well, because
that's because they they did mention that if the pearlings
don't match your grid set up, yeah, you can come
into trouble there. So and considering the age of your

(36:24):
roof too, if there is no strength here, it has
to be checked. So something to keep in mind.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
And is that is that something that the that the
person installing the solar panels to check but this or
is that something you need to do yourself? I mean
people going to people going to have them up if
they know that that the pearlins pearlings aren't right and
your house is going to crumble.

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Well, it was basically to check myself.

Speaker 8 (36:51):
Really.

Speaker 17 (36:52):
The panel I've had, I've had about three, three different
outfits out here to check the quotes. So let's again
get a lot of quotes done, but none of them
really actually got inside the roof to check that, which
you would assume, right, So so mention that to whoever
you're getting on board, just to just to be sure.
But I mean, I figured it out and we're okay.
But thankfully our sparky that does the job. He's actually

(37:14):
the one that's making the grid. He's putting the panels
in such a way that it actually it strengthens the roof.
I don't know how to explain it. Really, it's just
getting the right crowd to tell you how we're going
to get you know, just that sort of So that's
all done.

Speaker 6 (37:29):
I'm happy with that now.

Speaker 17 (37:31):
But yeah, I just wanted to talk about this car actually,
because we've never had an evy.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
We'll just go to the ads and we'll come back
and we'll talk to you about the car after the ads, Carl,
if that's all right.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yeah, just told there, Carl. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
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on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heathen
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Speaker 2 (37:56):
News doorg ZB go back to Carl car. We get
about thirty seconds, Mate, tell us about EV.

Speaker 17 (38:01):
Look, okay, quickly this website evdb dot n Z. If
you're looking at EV's hit that website that obviously that
was a really good website to check range batteries the
type of cars. I wish I knew that before, but
it doesn't matter that they're to get that down and
then range on cars now. I went for a black

(38:24):
to k Taranaki and yeah, the range is definitely not
what you think when you're on open roads, so you've
got to realize that when you're using these things, it's
really good for stop starting and low low speeds. So
that was something that I just found a little bit disappointing.
But at the end of the day, it was still
very happy with what we have and it's just a
piece of tech.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
Really.

Speaker 17 (38:45):
They are very fancy things.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Love it, Carl, Thank you very much for giving us
a bars. We're going to carry this on. Oh wait,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty do you think we're
nearing the tipping point when it comes to solar uptake?
If you've done solar hell is it going for you?
Tell us nine two ninety two is the text number
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Speaker 1 (39:10):
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Talk said.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
The afternoon to you. Welcome back into the shelters. Seven
past ten. We have been talking about the uptake of
solar and the uptake of EV's evs that is pure
evs and plug in hybrids. We're up one hundred and
sixty five percent in the June corner, outpacing petrol cars
for that three months. But also with the increasing announcements

(39:41):
when it comes to solar, like National's promise to make
it a hell of a lot easier with low interest loans,
putting it on your rates and painted off over time
and removing consent as well. Is the tipping point starting
to get neerror.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
So the tipping point for the tipping point to come,
it has to be a money thing and not a
moral thing. Has to be it has to make sense
and be dinky and cool and fun, but it also
has to make sense and not just be about moral posturing,
because people because there's only so many people that are
so rich that can get solar and evs to show
off that's right to people in their neighborhood, you have

(40:15):
to win over people like you know V eight V
eight tim from Timaru that ran in before. Yep, he
was on board, but just and yet he was driving
V eights. He was on board because it made sense, right,
and people like this text are here. It's like you
said yesterday, Matt with the zero our cold beers, mate,
keep it secret, keep it safe. Like Gandalf said, if

(40:37):
I could get solar panels, no one could see in
an EV that locked and sounded like a proper man's car.
I'd be in. But I would hate for people to
think I was doing it for some climate change fashion statement.
All that Chloe stuff is so cringe and embarrassing. Look
at me, look at me. I'm a good person on
some made up social media metric that real people don't

(40:57):
care about. Love the show.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Great texts coming through. So to get this point though,
by the.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Time that guy, if you get that guy seem it's
a if you get that guy on board with Solar
and EVS then that's when I'll hit the tipping point. Yeah,
because because you know he hates the idea of it,
so it'd have to be make monetary sense.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
If that's if that fella from rewiring now totor is listening,
that's the guy you want. You get him across the line,
then your life will get easier. We'll to share his
details if yeah, there shall be a challenge. We'll share
that guy's details and see if he can get him
across the line.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I mean you can get you can get you know,
old cars fitted out as EV's Yep. True, they want
they won't make the right sound, but there was now
fit in to need. And I wonder if they're still going.
I talked to them not so long ago. And you
basically turn up with the car you like, you know,
and and they'll turn it into an EV.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
There is that oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty
C number to call nine too? Is it text to
cause Gary? What's your view?

Speaker 13 (42:00):
You got boys hitting on very very well?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Cool?

Speaker 10 (42:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (42:04):
No, I put Solar on back in twenty thirteen, little
two point six core system got it through Harrison's and
At the time, the buy back rate for your every
unit you exported was twenty five cents, and then they
went and chopped it down till something like eight cents.
But now it's back up to seventeen cents. So for me,
it's paid off last year, so I'm now free and

(42:28):
easy on the electricity generation. I still import some stuff
from the grid, but year around, my power bills are
sort of sitting at around one hundred and twenty five
dollars after my buy back rate gets applied, and I've
I've got wet back for hot water in the winter
and in the summer, I've got a relay that powers
the hot water solider from the solar, so all my
solidess goes into my hot water, which is the biggest

(42:51):
energy user in the house. So yeah, it's cost me
eleven k back when I had it put on, that
was turned key and it went on to decormatic tile roof,
and honestly, the thing has had zero issues knock on
wood since it was commissioned. And then, yeah, I don't
even look at it. It just works. You know, it's great.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And what states you stop in. So twenty and thirteen
coming around thirteen years is what what's the state the gear?

Speaker 5 (43:19):
And so the inverta just sits in the laundry so
it's out of the weather, it's it's inside. I've had
zero maintenance done. I've been up on the roof probably
three times in it's lifetime and just giving it a
scrub with the broom, especially those years where you get
those big pollen blooms. But as far as liking goes,
it just nothing grows on a day.

Speaker 18 (43:41):
They get a bit dirty.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
But even when they're dirty, if it hasn't rained for
a while, they still generate good power. I mean, you
really can't tell the difference between a dirty panel and
a clean panel. And of course, being monocrystalline panels LG panels,
even when it's cloudy, you know, in the winter I
can get My daily average is probably around seven kilo
odd hours of energy produced and in the summer peak

(44:03):
of summer lot around New Year's nineteen kilo odd hours.
I can you know it? Yeah, so little two point
six kilo lot system does us well. Keeps our power
down at around telve hundred bucks a year, and most
of that's just lawn charges.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
You know, would you would you ever consider putting an
EV in the max so running solo and.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Yeah, so so now I'm at that point. Hey, so
we're definitely looking at it, but we just don't I've
got a company egg and I run around and and
the company pays for that. But we just don't do
the mileage to justifying EV right now. But if I
was in the market to replace our current vehicle, it
would definitely be an EV.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
And would you have to make any changes? You know,
so there'd be a lot more drag on your on
your power consumptions, so you know, you'd have to make
some changes there. You would probably have to suck a
bit more off the grid.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Yeah, we wouldn't have to suck a bit more off.
We haven't got a battery on. Batteries didn't make sense
at the time. Now they're making strong sense. The system
is battery ready, but at the moment paying for the fuel.
If we weren't paying for fuel, we just pay electricity
horses Horses.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Some people use the EV battery as part of the
whole setup, don't they.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
That's right, So you can with our system obviously have
been grid tied. If we had an EV plugged into it,
we can we can go vehicle to grid as well,
so effectively use the EV battery as a storage device
for the house, so you can draw power off it
at night for example, or load generation times and when
it's going the other way, you can fill the car up.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
So is that standard of most evs now, Gary, do
you know? I know Tesla a pretty pretty quick off
the mark, but b y, do you imagine that they've
got a similar setup.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Yeah, so you've got vehicle to load, so you can
basically plug in appliances and things and run them straight
off the vehicle and powers out for example, or if
you're out on a camping trip. But also I think
a strong selling point now is the ability to use
the car as a mobile battery and have a grid
tide so it can serve serve your two functions.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Right, I mean that is handy, That is cool, you know,
just the cool factor on that if everything goes down
or we enter some sort of mad Max situation that
you can just you know, you can plug the EV
in and keep things running.

Speaker 9 (46:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:20):
The only downside with grid tysole is if there is
a power outage, your power goes off, it's the cord
to disconnect within a few milliseconds, So you're not you're
not livening up the local lines. If there's linesmen having
to work on lines. They know that your system is
not generating power that's going to knock them for.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
S So what are they stiff you? Originally so they
were you know, you're getting twenty five cents back, then
they knocked it back to eight. Then they've gone back
up to seventeen. But what was the rational for stiff
and you know, you know that's a big drop from
twenty five cents to eight cents.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
I think I think the feeling was was non solar
users were effectively subsidizing solar users, right, so they're trying
to fair and equal for everyone. But for example, my
first power bill, I think I've got a two dollar
credit my first and then they went and changed the
goal post on me because that buyback of twenty five

(47:12):
cents a unit was part of the original formula in
getting me over the line. But yeah, once it's on,
it's on. So but it's it's paid for itself.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, nice Gary, Nice to hear from your mate. And
glad it's working out, Gary, And still back in twenty
thirteen and it's still working. A treat stuff that's you.
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty, or if you're
thinking about solar, what's holding you back at this stage?
Nine two ninety two is the text number back very shortly.
It is quarter past two.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
This Texas says solar is shite. Okay, okay, you agree.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Please tell us why it's shite. I eight one hundred
eighty ten eighty Coulter, buzz to.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
They'd be.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Eighteen past two. So we're talking about solar uptake. Do
you think we are nearing the tipping point with the
increase in people buying evs and new government subsidies potentially
coming into play. I eight hundred eight eighty is the
number to call if you want to send a text.
Nine two nine two is that number?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Oh complete that text that I read the start off
before the break. Okay, solar is shite unless you have
a battery hours we bought has solar, but no battery,
so we never get to use the generated power as
we work full time. Fifteen K for a battery, No,
thank you. It is an expensive battery, So solar is

(48:34):
shite unless you have a battery. L though, we have
had people that have rung up and running solo without
a batterer and having some good times with it. Yep,
Texas says, I'm like the other guy. I would like
an EV and solar, but I would hate to be
seen to be doing it for the wrong reasons. I
believing in the climate hoax. They need a brand that
sets up solar called something like Planet Schmanet Solar. Would

(48:58):
that work for you, Planet Schmanite Solar. I mean, I'm
making it career because because if you if you get
an EV, it's about thirty seconds later someone goes, yeah,
but you know these aren't actually good for the environment, yeah,
or solar? They go, well, what about the batteries. Are
the batteries recyclable? You know someone will recycle recyclable And
when you actually add up that side of it, it
becomes an interesting argument, right where the evs are actually

(49:20):
good for the environment.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
So if it's going to hit tipping point like we're
talking about, where people are running this double solar EV
setup or just taking on solar of EV's or whatever
it is, then you also have to get the market
that doesn't want to signal their climate credentials.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, who cares about the planet.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
This is good for your wallet, planet drinking, planet shman
It would go well, Planet schman It Solar.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
I'll check them out, check out their website and see
what they're up to. There'll be a winner for you.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Essentially, what it's saying they'll be saying is, look, this
is not good for the planet. It's good for your
wallet or something. Yeah honest, you know, save money, yeah,
you know, not save the planet or something like that.
Can we just get their business name registered at this point,
Planetlanet Schmanett Solar. I'll bring up the text it planet
Schmante Solar.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Yeah, just get that name, bridges that it. We'll see,
we'll see if there's any interest. Oh one hundred and eighty,
today's love to call Jim. You're an Australian.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
Yes, good, so make very good.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah good. So we've got a lot of questions for you.
So Ossie, clearly they've got a big uptake when it
comes to solar, I think about thirty percent penetration. So
how's it going over there?

Speaker 19 (50:35):
Well, you know, when all this kind of kicked off,
big way. Ten years ago, people were getting forty or
fifty cents in Australia. They call it a feed in tariff.
So so what you put back into the grid, you
were getting forty or fifty season killer one. Now it's
down to two or three cents. And because so many

(50:57):
people have taken up solar right so, during the day
there is that much power in Australia that they are
now talking about charging people for power they put back
in to the grid during the day because they don't
need the power mate. You know, there's just that much
of it.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
I just want to row that back because that makes
no sense and they think that's your point. But so
you generate the power off your soil of powers that
you've paid for you've got to loan from the Australian
government or state government. Then they you send it back
to the grid so everybody can utilize that. Then they
charge you for it.

Speaker 13 (51:30):
Yes, but that's what the power companies want to do.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
They want to do. They're not doing it yet, well.

Speaker 19 (51:35):
They haven't gone it through yet, but that's what they're.

Speaker 13 (51:37):
Chasing right Well, you know, because you've got that much
power during the day, that all the big ass power stations.

Speaker 18 (51:45):
They're just all sat there idling.

Speaker 16 (51:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Right?

Speaker 19 (51:49):
Yeah, So when you talk about a tipping point and
that fella from REWI New Zealand, if I anyway lucky
I wasn't within distance of it. He's just a snake
oil salesman. That guy ten years down the road, mate,
New zeal will be in the same situation as what
Australia is.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Well, I mean, I guess something that doesn't come into
the conversation as who pays for all the lines and
who runs the great the other thing that.

Speaker 19 (52:15):
So that's the other thing power companies are doing.

Speaker 13 (52:18):
Now.

Speaker 19 (52:18):
So have you heard of a clown called Chris Bowen.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I've heard the name. I'm not that familiar with what
he does.

Speaker 20 (52:25):
Who is he?

Speaker 19 (52:26):
He's the Australian Environment and Energy Minister, right, he's a
deluxe version clown. So he's now saying power prices are
that cheap in Australia. Look, they're going there and he
always talks about wholesale power prices and the householder pays
pays a retail power price that don't pay wholesale, so
there's a big markup from the wholesaler to the retailer, right,

(52:47):
but he's saying power prices are going down. All the
power companies do now is increase the line charges, and
they've just doubled them in the last week or so.
So people now are paying double daily rate to have
their house connected to the power because they're not selling
us much power. So they just got to maintain their
profits somehow.

Speaker 12 (53:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (53:06):
Right, Well, I'm saying, mate, is just do you where
what you wish for? Because you know down the road,
when thirty percent or forty percent of kiws have a
solar panel on their house, the power companies are tordally
worse sort of running the power stations, right, So what
do you think they're going to do?

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Yeah, it's an interesting point, isn't it, Because but it's
also you know, you can set up your solace situation
on your house, but there's a whole lot more to electricity.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Than just that, that's right.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Yeah, but if you're pumping back into the grid. But
you know, we we need a lot of power in
this country. No, I mean, as it possible possible to
increase productivity in the country that such that pumping out
huge amounts during the day could be sucked up and
paid for by industry.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah, it's a good question if you're in the no
tell us I eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
really keen on your thoughts on It doesn't seem likely
at this point, but No. Nineteen nine two is the
text as well. It is twenty four past two when
we come back we have a chat with Ian who's
one hundred percent off grid and rural Southwark. How good
that's coming up? Twenty four past two.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Twenty six past two. Do you think we're nearing the
tipping point when it comes to solar uptake? Nine two
ninety two is the text number and one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call in you're one
hundred percent off grid?

Speaker 18 (54:32):
That's correct.

Speaker 12 (54:34):
Yep and yep.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
How did you get it set up?

Speaker 18 (54:39):
Well, about six or seven years ago. I built the
house I'm in and I'm quite away off the road.
It's sort of at the back of my property and
to get the power from the road to the house
it was going to cost me a fortune. So I

(54:59):
decided i'd go off grid. And that's the situation I'm
in now, so and it's worked out really well, right, And.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
What was the overall cost?

Speaker 18 (55:15):
The overall cost probably was in the region of forty
k okay.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Maybe that includes the battery, Ian as well.

Speaker 18 (55:26):
Yeahs the battery, the solar panels. There's probably thirty thirty
six solar panels. Some are on a roof, half twenty
twenty two are on a roof and the rest are
on a ground mount right. That also the battery, the inverter,

(55:48):
the generator, The generator I really use like once in
a blue moon. I don't think I've used it this year.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Fantastic in it sounds like it's working out well for you, mate,
Ian as one hundred percent off gred in rural Auckland.
Thank you very much. If you call, we'll quickly go
to Trevor. Hey, Trevor, Hey, boys, how are you very good? Mate?
What do you reckon?

Speaker 18 (56:13):
Hello?

Speaker 12 (56:14):
Good?

Speaker 9 (56:14):
Hey?

Speaker 21 (56:14):
Look just that last text to anybody who loves solar
and if they say it's shy, well, I dunk a
whole lot of my toilet this morning, so I want
to they want to come around and use that. I
love solar, so much. But what I want to say
is I reckon ev cars will turn out to be
a bit of a bit of a hoax when they
end up. I mean, look, you wait till I start

(56:34):
paying the correct amount of road due to charges. I mean,
we're told that every bit of dollar they get from
pitticl cars they need to truck the roads. So I
think half of it goes to the government. So when
a lootric pay of vehicles play that, then the government
will say, oh, electrical vehicles they damage the road more.
So you're going to have to pay more money because
the road you're getting damaged. Then you're gonna have to

(56:55):
get rid of your batteries.

Speaker 13 (56:57):
How is going to go up?

Speaker 21 (56:58):
I know Pittel goes up. How's going to go up?
And I think eventually evs won't be any cheap of
a run than petrol cars.

Speaker 18 (57:05):
Okay, I really don't.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Enough to Trevor. I mean some people will agree with you.
I don't know. We'll see what happens down the future
if there is a big uptake of solar But perhaps
you're right. I suppose we'll just wait and see on
that one. Yeah, interesting point. Thank you very much, Trevor.
And thank you to everybody who text and gave us
a buzz on that. Interesting. I mean, whether we're at
that tipping point just from my own opinion, if that

(57:30):
policy from National comes through after the election and then
you see the increase in the evs, Oh, we're getting
pretty close. We're getting pretty close, do you.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
We're somewhere between three and six percent of Keyi households
have solar so compared to Australia it's forty percent, right,
So I think for it to hit a tipping point,
it's going to have to be, as I said before,
no longer a moral thing, but a money thing. That's
that makes the difference, right, So only so many people

(57:58):
are going to do it because I think it's cool, yes,
and they want to show off that they're saving the climate,
slaving the planet or whatever it is. So yeah, to
hit point, it has to just make incredibly good financial
sense and it has for a bunch of people that
have called through.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
That's right. Yeah, and we'll see how it goes. Yeah,
interesting conversation. Thank you again to everyone who gave us
a call. Antiques through coming up after the headlines, community
groups and Queensland governments are reporting growing numbers of kiwis
struggling and having to return home. So we're going to
have a chat to you about moving overseas and finding
some challenges.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
This text makes a bad point. Okay, what about homeless people.
Homeless people can't get solar panels.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I don't even know what to say to that one.
Can you get ten solar panels? You need a home
to put panels on it? That's right, Yeah, that is challenged.
Number one headlines with Windy coming up.

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Speaker 3 (59:58):
Back to Matton Tyler.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Thank you very much, Wendy. And we've been talking about
Australia's uptake of solar and we go move to talking
about Australia in a different context. This is kiwi's considering
a move to Queensland been urged to do your research.
This is after community groups are reporting growing numbers of
New Zealanders struggling and having to return home. So while
Australia can offer higher wages, many New Zealanders underestimate the

(01:00:21):
high cost of living, difficulty fighting houses and the big
one limited access to social services, as in the Queensland
government helping them out if they get into financial hardship.
The Queensland government quite rightly says I'm sorry you're not
an Australian citizen. You've come over here to make a
new life, but you've got into trouble. You haven't you
haven't backed yourself with some savings and we can't value

(01:00:42):
out what a turnaround.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
It is, isn't it? From everyone talking about the grasses
greener Ossie's incredible to now Queensland saying you know, do
you research? It's not that great over here? The grass
isn't that green. But who moves to another country with
no cash and no way to get home? I can't
imagine doing that. Also, what kind of person would move
to Queensland and then expect the Queensland government to look

(01:01:06):
after them if it doesn't go right? That is the
big there, right, I mean, you go over there, try
and make it. If you don't just scurry off home
with your table between you leags, don't you?

Speaker 22 (01:01:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I mean part of me? How long do we have that?
It was headline after headline saying Australia is now the
land of milk and honey again and the New Zealand
is broken. So if you're young, don't even worry about
New Zealand. Just shoot off to Australia. They'll sort, Yeah,
you'll be able to make life. And in one hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year and your dreams will
come true. And then all these young people clearly said, okay,
I'll give it a go. I've got nothing to my name,

(01:01:36):
I don't really have any skills. I'll just go over
there and see if I can make my dreams come
true and they get crushed.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
Well, if you are amazing and you're an asset to
New Zealand, then you might go to Australia and be
an asset to Australia and having a lot of opportunities.
But if you are failing terribly in New Zealand and
you think just going to Australia will be the difference, Yeah,
so you'll go over there and continue to have your
same old bad habits and I don't know, laziness here

(01:02:02):
and lack of whatever skills and you go to Australia
and that's just going to be you know, there's going
to be papered over by Australia's amazing economy. Yeah, then
I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 13 (01:02:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
What's that quote that you always are used everywhere you
go there?

Speaker 12 (01:02:15):
You are?

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
I mean is it in a nutshelle?

Speaker 11 (01:02:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
It's the Buddhist Buddhist concept everywhere you go, there you are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Yeah, that's that's why if you're having a you know,
if your relationship's not going well, and you go, should
we go on a holiday. We'll go on an overseas
trip and see if we can patch up our relationship.
Never works. No, you have a screaming argument and the
uber on the way to the airport and then you
don't talk to each other for the whole trip. Yeah,
you know, you've got to make before you go on holidays,

(01:02:42):
sort out your relationship where you are, because wherever you go,
there you are.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
So what are you saying this? I wight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty? Would you ever move overseas with nothing?
If you did do that, arguably, did it give you
the motivation to try and make it work because you
knew you were on your own? Tell us your stories?
I wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number?

Speaker 6 (01:03:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Ever moved anywhere with nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
And how did it go for you? Nine to nine
two is the teach number? It is twenty three to three.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Letties Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, it's mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons
news Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
They'd be twenty to three. Would you ever move overseas
to start a life with nothing to your name? If
you've done it, tell us so eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is that number to call and if you want
to send a text nine two nine two is that
number high.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Being in New Zealand and living in Australia doesn't matter
what state you're in. You're not eligible for welfare, unemployment benefort,
hardship plan. If you get paid redundancy, lose your job,
that's pretty much it. In fact, you're often told to
go back to New Zealand, which seems fair, right, I
mean you're not in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Yeah, that's right. They're not obligated to look after everybody
in the world, you know, unless there's you know, there's
obviously refugees and migrants that make that deal with the
Australian government as they do with our government. But just
because you're a KEYWI and your shit over there and
we've got a nice relationship doesn't mean they look after you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
And if you're remaining a New Zealand citizen then you
can't be you can't be putting your hand outen thought.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
So I mean, we'd tell Ozzies to bugger off if
they did the same here, would they? Yeah, you can't
just come here and lays about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
And Ossie comes over here with zero dollars, doesn't get
a job and then turns up at the unemployment office
looking for a benefit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
We would like get out of here, Bruce, Come on mate,
you can't do that, Graham.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
How are you good?

Speaker 20 (01:04:24):
Thanks yourself?

Speaker 13 (01:04:24):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
What's your view?

Speaker 7 (01:04:26):
Okay, Look, I've.

Speaker 20 (01:04:27):
Fend to Australia. I'm now retired. I went over to
Australia about twenty years ago and made a good life.
And don't get me wrong, it's excellent over there. But
I got in a position where I was employing quite
a few people, and I found young news honders going
over there, even older ones, middle aged news honders with
high expectations that Australia is going to open you, welcome

(01:04:50):
you with open arms. That's certainly not the case, right,
And a lot of them find themselves getting into all
sorts of bother because they go over as a family.
They buy an expensive house. And I come from I
was in Queensland working in Brisbane, and a lot of
them buy properties in the Gold Coast because that's where

(01:05:12):
you should go. And they get themselves into a pickle
because they can't find work. And I say to them,
why didn't you come over on your own and look
for work and find secure work, because there's also unemployment
in Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
I wonder if the media over here, the media over here,
and the chat over here is that it's hard in
New Zealand but easy in Australia. Go over the are
and you get higher wages and everything will be sorted out.
I wonder if we're hyping it up the wrong way
over here, Graham.

Speaker 20 (01:05:46):
We are, indeed, I think that's just maybe political talk
from someone I'm not too sure where it's coming from. Yes,
there is good wages, Yes the life is good, but
first of all you've got to secure a job and
that's half the problem. And Australian government is not going
to support you no matter which state you go to,
whether it's Queensland, South Wales or South Australia. I was

(01:06:10):
employing people in various states for this company I was
working with, and we had a lot of New Zealanders
coming in saying you need to employ me because I've
got no work. Well, I'm sorry. You know, first of all,
the Australian people have got their own qualifications and they
don't recognize quite often the New Zealand qualification, if you

(01:06:34):
know what I mean, Like electrical I was in engineering.
The civil engineers that come out of Canterbury and Auckland,
they they think that that qualification fits Australian conditions. It doesn't.
They need to go back a step and start training
themselves into the Australian psychic if you would, and into

(01:06:59):
their way of doing things. That makes sense to you
that I totally agree with those comments that Australia is
not while it's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
The Golden Goose.

Speaker 20 (01:07:09):
Yes, you've got to work to get there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Now, Graham, you're obviously you're in New Zealander to start with,
so you were, you know, you were warmly disposed to Australians.
But if you had an Australian employer, employer, and they
had the option of hiring a Kiwi or an Aussie,
would who would they go for? First?

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
They do?

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
They rate Kiwis over there, they do.

Speaker 20 (01:07:30):
But generally, once again, I go back to the qualification
as an engineer or an architect. They tend to stay
with the Australians. First of all, you've got to realize
Australia has a different employment policy if you would whilst
they they first of all, they recognize the indigenous people

(01:07:51):
over there, so they get a if you would, a
higher order even over New Zealanders, they would do that.
But it's still the point is that New Zealanders go
over there with a qualification thinking the qualification will fit
whatever they the career they're in, but it's not quite

(01:08:14):
the same and they need to go back a step
and do and retrain, and they need to do that
while they're in Australia. So there's a lot of work
where they've got to go in and come and they
can't just walk into a high powered job. You stay there,
but they've got to do the apprenticeship, if you know
what I mean. So, which is where the young people

(01:08:35):
are coming as drift.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
So what would your advice be if someone's in New
Zealand and they're going, look, I think I want to
get paid more, I want more opportunities. I'm going to
upsticks and go to Australia. What would you sugest they
do before they go?

Speaker 20 (01:08:49):
I would suggest first of all, they understand what they
were going into, identify what additional training they need, and
also don't go over with your family. You need to
go over on your own because people can work and
live quite cheaply if you would on the ruff, if

(01:09:10):
you know what I mean, on their own without having
to worry about a family, particularly if they go over
with a family. And I just many many news onders
who are begging for employment because they've bought houses, et cetera.
Leave your family in New zealand, go over find a
job and then bring your family over to Australia.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
You go.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
That's your advice from Graham, who's employed people in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Sounds like a smart man. I mean, that is crazy
if you go over there and you bring your family
and then you buy a house before you've got a job,
and then you're at the door of an ossie employer
and say you've got to employ me. I don't have
a job. I mean, when does that ever get you
the job? You can't just go camp in hand and
say sir, I need it, I need it. You've got
to prove it, You've got to end it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Yeah, you people want to hire people that are going
to make things better rather than that a charity generally speaking?

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Is this true?

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
After two years in New Zealand Ozzie's become eligible for
New Zealand welfare? Surely? Surely is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Let's look that up, because what a bunch of dirty
ossie doll b lodges.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Yeah, two years, jeez, that's nothing. Oh and hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call Steve. You went
overseas in the nineties.

Speaker 23 (01:10:22):
Yes, mate, it's it's I guess, traveling overseas with you know,
back in the day, all you had was a return
ticket one thousand pounds in your pocket and.

Speaker 13 (01:10:32):
You and you're off.

Speaker 23 (01:10:33):
You went and made whatever you made of it. And
at d yes you had return ticket. And I guess
back in those days when you did goe it was
stipulated that if you were going to do that in
the UK then you had to have a return ticket.
But still you went over there with bugarall and an
open mind, and you know, you've got pub jobs and
all that sort of thing. And some people actually worked

(01:10:56):
over there and made some really good money and came home,
you know, So I think it's a little bit of
it as resilience and as that gentleman just before saying
do your homework, you know, do do all that sort
of stuf before you make that decision. Like just recently,
I've been tapped on the shoulder by an Australian recruitment
company to go over and look at a job and

(01:11:17):
McKay and I said to my partner, you know, would
we do that if it was all all good and
you know, we still had to talk about it, and said, well, yes,
if the money was right, we would. We would up
sticks and go to that lovely part of the world
and make a go of it. But obviously at the
end of the day come home eventually. But you know,
I guess it's just about seeing what's right for you

(01:11:40):
and really making sure that you do your homework before you,
you know, pressed ot f poss button to say yes
on the ticket.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
I think if wants to do their research and go oversea,
go I mean when you go overseas reason, if you're
moving towns within New Zealand, it can be a bit
of a problem. Look at you, Tyler. You came up here,
you did no research. The first house you rented was
in a very bizarre place.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
It was for bedroom, way too big and an odd
part of Auckland because I had no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Yes, So Steve, I mean, would you would you, you know,
you take on the job. Would you just fully upset
Dix if you took on this job, or would you
go over a trial period?

Speaker 12 (01:12:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:12:20):
Absolutely I would. I would say if that would be
the case that I were ken, i would be going
over for an interview and that's when I'd be doing
my due diligence and all that sort of thing. A
little probably a little bit easier for me because i
am a wooly jumper, so I've got, you know, the
Australian heritage on my mom's side being Australian, so you know,
I've got that Ozzie granddad. So worst case scenario could

(01:12:43):
probably go, yeah, I want to be an AUSSI citizen
and get the benefits, but that would I'd never give
up my Kiwi passport and I and I always let
mum know that, you know, she is an Australian and
I'm in his jella and so yeah, it's it would
be hard for me to do that, to actually say, well,
I want to become a Naussi citizen, so I can
get the doll you know. So there, but I'd definitely

(01:13:06):
be doing Yeah. So if it come to that point
where hey, look, Steve, we might be keen on you,
I'll be going over for an interview and making sure
that all the boxes will take yea, for sure, Good.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
On your Steve. Now I've got an answer to that
text before we see it. Australian's just got to live
here for two years before they can tap into everything.
They're right, So as long as they're here for two years,
they can get the main benefit benefits of the jobs.
See can support, the sole parents support obviously, they can
tap into acc like anyone who visits this country. They
don't really have to do much to tap into our
health system and disability support. That's that's good to go

(01:13:39):
as soon as they land here. Man, we're generous and what,
but not reciprocate.

Speaker 3 (01:13:44):
There's no reciprocation with Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
No, no, well are we doing that? I know who
wrote that deal. It is a bad negotiation. That's bad
contract work. Yeah, well that that's insane. Why are we
doing that for Australians. We need to dig deeper into this.
This is just not fair bludgeing ozziusting right, Oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty The job will go home
if you've moved over, If you've moved overseas were nothing?

(01:14:08):
How did it work out for you? What challenges do
you face? And how much you hate those Aussies? It
is nine to three the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
That affect you, and a bit of fun along the way,
matd Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
They'd be news talks, there'd be It is seven to three.
So would you ever move overseas with nothing? There's plenty
of key. He was doing that and finding themselves in
financial hardship in Queensland and been told to go home.
So if you made it work O. One hundred and
eighty ten eighties the number to call the nine two
ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 13 (01:14:39):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
You came to New Zealand with nothing?

Speaker 7 (01:14:42):
Yeah, I came here nineteen eighty four with a couple
of dollars in my pockets and a box full of
tools and nothing else really and a dream.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Where'd you come from?

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
Jack?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
Holland Holland?

Speaker 7 (01:14:55):
Well, then in July twenty four, the same months Longly
and Douglas achieved their dream of being politicians in charge
and Christmas time interest rights were twenty yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, And so what made you want to leave the
Netherlands and travel all the way around the world almost exactly,
to the other side of the world to start a
new life with some tools and a dream.

Speaker 7 (01:15:24):
I wanted to go to Australia, but in those that
Australia would only take you university degrees, right, So I
came here and the plan of going a year later
to Australia, but that never happened, found the TV girl
a couple of years later and started typical. The rest

(01:15:46):
is history, really did they?

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
So back in nine ninety four when you came into
the country, you didn't have to because say, if you
want to go to a lot of countries, you have
to prove you've got a flight out before you can
come in. So there wasn't the case back in the engine.

Speaker 7 (01:15:59):
No, we did a prominent immigration process and there was
a shortest heal of mechanics. So we went to the
embassy and they said, yeah, fast tricked and fast trek
or six months. So yeah, seconds on the plane to
New Zealand, then one way ticket and did my thing?
Got a job. I had no job when I got here, right,

(01:16:21):
there wasn't a requirement. Were just we want mechanics, so
let's keep you here. So yeah, within days I had
a job working in Papakura and then from there to
Pokikawi and then now on the very plenty.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Happy with your decision, Jack, all these years later.

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Yeah, it depends. If you've listened to the radio, sometimes
you'd think what the hell's going on? But yeah, well
we all do that. Yeah, one of my kids has
gone to Australia with your husband and that won't come back,
and when he's making twice as much money there is here.
But they did the proper process, so gone through like

(01:17:05):
an immigration process.

Speaker 21 (01:17:07):
M hm.

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
I think all these Kiwis going to Australia on a
freelance basis are just kidding themselves. If you have an
accident or something and you don't have income protection and
health insurance, you're just an eddiot. Really, Yeah, you're going
to know the country you need to immigrate, not just
go there for a work visit and take it as

(01:17:28):
it comes and have an excellence and then onk you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Yeah, very true, Jack, Thank you very much for your call.
New sport and we're the fast approaching. You're listening to
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams on your Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Be welcome back into the show. Six past three, great
de have you company on this Thursday afternoon, and we're
talking about kiwis considering a move to Australia and particularly Queensland.
They've been urged to do your research. So many community
groups and the Queensland government are reporting growing numbers of
New Zealand struggling and needing to return home. They say,

(01:18:11):
while Australia can off a higher rage wages, many Keys
underestimate the high cost of living and limited access to
social services if they get themselves into trouble. So would
you ever move overseas with nothing? Have you done that?
And how did it go for you?

Speaker 3 (01:18:26):
One hundred eighteen eighty This Texas says, no OSSI's want
to come here because our men aren't as good looking.

Speaker 18 (01:18:32):
Woo.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
We ladies have to put up with some pretty low
quality fellers here. Ossie chicks would never date the slobs
that I do. Oh, that's running yourself down there, Japers.
Maybe you're just dating the wrong top of I've seen
lots of good looking Kiwi mails strapping.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, good tans. Not as good as tans as the
Aussie fellas. I suppose while I'm talking about that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
The six says what a load of rubbish. Ossie has
a much better economy because they don't have a labor
government because they they do have they have a labor
government and on a national government. If they had our
current government, they would be screwed to wake up. Well,
that's I don't know about that. I think Australia is
hitting a few head ones.

Speaker 22 (01:19:12):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Albaneze is not doing as well as you think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:14):
Yeah, so our GDP rows zero point eight percent in
the March quarter. That better than Australia zero point three
percent yep, yep. And let's have a look here at inflation.
New Zealand is doing slightly better there, three point one
percent there, three point six percent. So I don't know
you could argue the Australian economy hitting some pretty major headwinds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yeah, Rhino, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 13 (01:19:40):
I'm very well, thanks, And how are you made with dayly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Very well, nice to chat with you. So you moved
here with your family and you just had the clothes
on your back.

Speaker 6 (01:19:49):
Yes, that's true and two four year olds?

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
And what motivated you to do that?

Speaker 10 (01:19:57):
I'm my wife, got a job you as a teacher
and gummy dumpson applica. At the time, we didn't see
a future file of two four year olds. So we
made a move and it's been now two years.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
And our best life I have, you know, right, So
where did you move to.

Speaker 13 (01:20:12):
Cokakoe?

Speaker 10 (01:20:13):
Were living in Tukakoe now. But when we just moved here,
we moved into people's house that we met online.

Speaker 8 (01:20:18):
That was for three months.

Speaker 10 (01:20:20):
Oh it was quite yea, that was actic time, but
we didn't knew it at the time. So after we moved,
we just realized. So that was quite a tough tough
time we went through, but we survived.

Speaker 8 (01:20:31):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:31):
So these people that you met online, were they what yes,
South African experts or what?

Speaker 18 (01:20:37):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:20:37):
They were also excited Africans. They already got their citizenship, yeah,
and they lived in Wayuku. So we just moved out
of Wouku into Cocakoe after three months.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
And so what was it like, what was your feelings
on the plane when you're when you're up in stacks,
you got two two little kids and there, what were
the feelings on the plane?

Speaker 8 (01:20:57):
Well, if I think.

Speaker 10 (01:20:58):
About it back now, it was like a dream because
I think they nerves quite caught up with us at
the time. So we just went through it, not thinking
it's just you know, bower hits and going through the
tough No, that's just about it.

Speaker 13 (01:21:14):
After the math, we quite realized how tough it was
to have.

Speaker 10 (01:21:18):
The two four year olds running around. Was there that
suitcases of wheels on it riding them?

Speaker 16 (01:21:25):
And so yeah that no, that's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
So there was no turning back. So you were all
on no plan to.

Speaker 10 (01:21:30):
Be Yeah, no, no, no plandee or all in all
or nothing?

Speaker 16 (01:21:35):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
That is that kind of freeing though, because you you know,
we talk about the obstacles the way you're coming here,
you've got your titles. There's no turning back. You've got
to make it work right now.

Speaker 10 (01:21:43):
Yes, yes, that's fine.

Speaker 8 (01:21:44):
Of the same.

Speaker 10 (01:21:45):
I think that plays a big role in it. To
know that you plan to go back is like zero.
And the kids quite I think they adapted quite good.
So we just have to fall into their place. It chunds.

Speaker 20 (01:21:59):
It sounds to catch up with the place of two four.

Speaker 13 (01:22:01):
Year olds, but they adapted quite well.

Speaker 10 (01:22:03):
So we just falling with them and it's been going
to it in a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
So you're you're your miss has had a job that
she was going straight into that. So that's that's some security.
Good good job teacher. Yeah, what about you? Have you
managed to ford your way here?

Speaker 8 (01:22:18):
I'm not yet. I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:22:20):
Training now, I'm doing a forklift training tomorrow certificate because
there's heaps of jobs available for forklift trainer drivers. So
that's my next step for now.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Fantastic. How much you got a better savings to fall
back on.

Speaker 10 (01:22:32):
Rhighto or no, a little bit, but comparing that and
to your dollar you can't say no, you can't actually
mention the Even.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
When you leave South Africa, I'm not sure of the rules.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
What can you take with you?

Speaker 13 (01:22:50):
Actually there's not.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
The rules is not as sauce as in Australia. So
I think the normal we just brought. We had to
bring some of our furniture.

Speaker 3 (01:23:02):
That you I mean, I mean financially, what can what
can you leave financially?

Speaker 10 (01:23:07):
I think maybe nothing enough fifty thousand ran. That adds
up to like five thousand dollars, right, wow, yeah, and
we go least to that because then you can at
least run for three months. That's how we worked it out.

Speaker 13 (01:23:23):
That's what we came with was fifty thousand.

Speaker 10 (01:23:26):
And that's fifty thousand as was our nest egg that
we built up for three years since the kids were born,
and we thought that that would be enough.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
We just made it.

Speaker 8 (01:23:36):
We just about made it to the yes.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yeah right, And so you guys enjoying your new life here,
So this is this is your future.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
Yeah, living our best life.

Speaker 3 (01:23:45):
Oh, good on you, mate, and good luck with the
the forklift license tomorrow. And I'm glad it glad it
worked out for you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
Brave thing to do. But as you mentioned there, when
you've got the family in tie, you've got to make
it work.

Speaker 8 (01:23:59):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
If you've done that and you've taken the family with you,
did you have no other choice but just to make
it work. If you're upstacked from a country to move
somewhere else with absolute nothing, tell us I eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty And if you want to
send a text, nine two ninety two is that number.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
So this text is saying that after two years you
can become a citizen in Australia if you're from New Zealand.
I don't think that's true. I think it's after four
years you can apply, right, I should look this up,
But I understand that you have to be there for
four years if you're in New Zealand or you go
over there. Obviously all keywis can just go over there
yep on your passport, get into Australia yep. But I

(01:24:35):
think before you can apply for Australian citizenship and get
the benefits of being Australian citizenship, I think you have
to have been there for four years.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah, if you've done it by all means, give us
a call. I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?
If you managed to apply for Aussie citizenship? How long
did you have to be there? It is thirteen past three.
Will be back very shortly, U's talks. It'd be very
good afternoon to you. So would you ever move overseas
with nothing? If you've done that? I eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty see number to call and if

(01:25:03):
you want to send a text nine two nine two
is that number?

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
Hey, guys, love the show South African here. That came
into twenty nineteen. Almost a key, Wei, Matt. To answer
your question, you're not allowed to take more than one
million out of South Africa per year. That's roughly one
hundred thousand dollars. Love our life here?

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
How good? Yeah, we've got a lot of South Africans
coming here. If that's you tell us about how easy
it was to come here and what you had to do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
Wow, South Africa's got all kinds of problems. When you
talk to a South African that comes here and they
hear our problems in the news, the hike, You've.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Got nothing to worry about paradise here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
These are low level problems you guys have here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
Ye, Jeff, you're planning to move to the Philippines?

Speaker 22 (01:25:47):
Hi, how are you bad boys?

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
If you're good mates, thank you. We're definitely bad boys.
I'm glad you recognize that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:25:56):
I'm in the car at the moment, but when I
get home, I'm going to put a deposit on our
first apartment in the city, which will take me four
years to pay off, which will show investment and the country.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
That's in the Philippines. Yeah, wow, And so anyone can
do that, Jeff.

Speaker 22 (01:26:14):
No, I'm married to a citizen, so it makes it
a loutly easier for me.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
And so what is your Are your planning to keep
working here to pay off the apartment?

Speaker 12 (01:26:27):
No, I can do it in four years.

Speaker 3 (01:26:30):
And what kind of apartment are we looking at here, Jeff?

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
At the moment?

Speaker 22 (01:26:35):
Is the first one is going to be a single
room on a second story. And I can just have
it converted to Airbnb, so it'll pay yourself, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
And and what and what part of the Philippines is that, Jeff.

Speaker 22 (01:26:47):
El If anyone's listening is near the sm MEGA.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Mall right, If anyone's looking for an airbnb.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Yep, everyone, it's the listing when it's up, Jeff, and
we'll get it on the air. So I take it there.
That's quite a big city in the Philippines, is it.

Speaker 22 (01:27:05):
That's pretty big. It's where basical where all the nurses
come from.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Right, okay?

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
And so have you have you lived in the Philippines
before only holiday?

Speaker 22 (01:27:13):
I used to go before COVID, I go for about
two months.

Speaker 3 (01:27:16):
And when you know, what's it going to be like
for you living in the Philippines. What kind of life
is it there? Very different from New Zealand, very very different.

Speaker 22 (01:27:25):
They don't have welfare. If you can't support yourself, what
are you doing the live right? Like if you can,
If you can't support children, why are you having children?
And medical medical care is similar to America. You've got
to have medical insurance right And.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
And what about is that Is it a safe place
to live?

Speaker 10 (01:27:45):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:27:46):
Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:27:46):
The previous president made sure it was safe.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Yeah, right.

Speaker 22 (01:27:50):
And President he made sure that criminals understood that there
will be punishment for violent crime.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I think there was a pretty full on era as well, though,
wasn't it. Jeff You know, he's a controversial man.

Speaker 22 (01:28:02):
Yes, I think he was great. He's like the parent
had that you have a hard hand on the children,
keep them aligne. So you're a lot of people disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
So you're going to go over the You're going to
arrive over there. You've got a Filipino wife, You've got
an apartment there, so you'll you'll be pretty set up.
What about the language, can you do a lot of
people speak English over there, or you've got a bit
of knowledge.

Speaker 22 (01:28:24):
Most most Filipinos speak American English, so it's basically the
same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Yeah, it is interesting that, you know, when you when
you meet Filipino people, they speak English with an American accent.
Why is that?

Speaker 22 (01:28:37):
I think it's across American's own Philippines for a little while, right,
So there's a big American influence there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Interesting, And what do you speak?

Speaker 22 (01:28:45):
I'm trying to learn their language as well, so they're
not struggling to understand me. And we have some middle ground.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
So you've got one hundred percent full immersion with your wife.

Speaker 12 (01:28:56):
No, no, she speaks.

Speaker 22 (01:28:58):
She speaks about sex languages.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Right, smart lady.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
But the best way to learn it is to have
someone around the house just you know, telling you to
fill the dishwasher in the in the and.

Speaker 22 (01:29:10):
And see if the kids go there as well. I
find the schools are much better there, right, And why
is that? Well that from here we can afford private school,
so the the attendance is much smaller.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
And so what are you going to do over there?
Are you just going to be a feller of leisure?

Speaker 20 (01:29:31):
Pretty much?

Speaker 22 (01:29:32):
Yeah, I got ten years before I retire, so oh well,
and hopefully by them, I have at least three apartments
and they all basically pay for themselves nice. Well, Jeff,
there are requirements. I can't just go over there with
like five dollars in my pocket and say yeah, I'm
going to do it. They won't allow me to do that.
I've got to have a certain amount of money in
the bank to prove I can support myself when if

(01:29:55):
things go bad, I can get myself out of the country.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Yeah right, well that makes sense. But Jeff, it sounds
like you've got to sort it out, mate. So all
the best with the airbnb once you pay it off
in four years and hopefully I can come over. I'd
love that, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
How many rooms in the apartment, so you got your you,
your wife from two kids, then Tyler and I we
can top and tail and one of the on the
on the couch in the lounge.

Speaker 22 (01:30:17):
Well we'll have a pullout couch, so it'll be right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
All right, songs it was a double mate.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Well you know locked that in yeh for four years?
In two months from today.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
All right, we'll see you there. Thank you very much.
M How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
I'm good?

Speaker 22 (01:30:32):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
So what's your story?

Speaker 24 (01:30:35):
I just wanted to share how I got a job
in the mind and I was a young fella about
twenty three. So you can't get a job in the
mines in Australia unless you have mining experience.

Speaker 6 (01:30:46):
So how do you get in?

Speaker 24 (01:30:48):
How do you get a foot in the door. So
I made up a company and gave them my mate
number and said that I worked in his mind on
the east coast of Australia, right, and they bought it.
So at that point you have you know, you have,
you have stretched the truth of litle bit, which is

(01:31:08):
fair enough to him. At that point you just said
to what you knew You're going to have to make
this work. Yeah, Well I could drive a little I
was just trying to get driver as a digger operator
and stuff. And I could drive the little ones because
I worked in the local rubbish stump and then it
wasn't too much harder to figure out how to drive

(01:31:29):
a big one.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
YEA good money?

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
So yeah it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
And how long were you there for in the inter.

Speaker 12 (01:31:37):
Oh about a year?

Speaker 24 (01:31:38):
And then I spent six months spending that money in
South America?

Speaker 6 (01:31:45):
Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
So after South America, did you go back to the
mines now?

Speaker 24 (01:31:50):
But I have, I've moved to several I've moved to
Australia several times and never had a problem getting job
in various stages of my life as a more experienced
person as well.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
But you keep coming home to Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:32:06):
I'm stuck here now, I've got kids.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Really but are you happy about that?

Speaker 24 (01:32:11):
I'm very happy. Yeah, I wouldn't go back to Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
Now, that's what we want to hear.

Speaker 24 (01:32:16):
It's the land of opportunity for a young a young
Kimi looking to make some big bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
You know, for some though, But more and more people
said to be going to Queensland and trying to put
their hand up to the Queensland government and say, hey,
help me out. I don't have a job in the
Queensland government saying pass off back to New Zealand your bloodshet.
You know we're not we're not looking after Kiwi's fair enough,
I say, yeah, thanks to you cool him?

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Yeah great call. So are you like term? I wait
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. You moved overseas with
nothing to your name and you made it work. We
can you hear from you nine to ninety two if
you want to send a text as well? Quick a
couple of texts before we got to play a break,
get I guys. Moved to London in nineteen eighty eight
on a one way ticket in three hundred bucks, got
a job in a pub, including accommodation of meals on

(01:33:03):
the same day. One year later I was managing a
pub for a big brewery in central London and stayed
there for sixteen years. Made enough money to buy a
house outright back in New Zealand. Had an awesome time
work to treat for me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
The six is why should people from other countries not
be able to come here and get benefits or go
from here to Australia and get benefits. There's still people.
It's only recently there were any rules about coming here.
Whereas your heart it's interesting point. I think you know
there's been times when countries, and I know that the
United States of America people always talk about this wife

(01:33:37):
for a while where they give us you poor, you needy,
you sick, whatever it was, what was it saying. But
I think you can't do that once there is the
social wealthare system in the country, because if people just
come here and the taxpayers of the country that are
working are paying for you if you come here, then
that becomes problematic.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Right, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
The whole world could come here, and then the people
that are paying taxes would have to cover for them.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
The system falls over pretty fast. And plus taking everyone,
and plus you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
You know, you want to make sure that the people
that are coming to your country aren't going to do
terrible things when they get here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Yeah, very true. Nineteen ninety two is the text number.
We'll get to a few of those shortly. It is
twenty six past three.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on youth Talk ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
It is twenty eight pass three. So have you ever
made a move overseas with nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
Can?

Speaker 4 (01:34:31):
Would you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

Speaker 7 (01:34:35):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
So that's that's from a poem, isn't it that?

Speaker 12 (01:34:39):
Give me?

Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
You're tired, you're poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
the wretched refuse of your teaming. Sure, send these the
homeless tempest lost to me. I lift my lamp beside
the golden door. That's it's on the Yeah, on the
Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
Isn't it beautiful poem?

Speaker 6 (01:34:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Yeah, but it was not.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
Policy for America. No, it was not the policy, you
know it was. It was sort of a poem that
was on the Statue of Liberty. But this person texting
through saying that we should run that as a policy.
Give me, you're tired, you're poor, your huddled messes, you
need to breathe free. As an immigration policy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
I don't know if that's going to work.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Do we want the Richard refuse of your teaming? Sure
as an immigration policy doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Sound like a good inclusion to a country, But.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
Your refuse send us, send us your worst.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
One hundred and eighty today is love to call get
a bed, good guys.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
Hi, Oh you go very well, very well, very well.

Speaker 8 (01:35:43):
It's the first time recording, so I'll do my best.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Oh welcome and mate's just us.

Speaker 8 (01:35:50):
Awesome. Basically, my story started one midnight in South Africa
in twenty eighteen, November twenty eighteen, lying in my bed,
I had a Facebook message from my mate that at
that stage they were already in Auckland. We used to

(01:36:12):
work together on the mines in South Africa and we
basically just said, look, there's a big drive for teachers
in New Zealand. He knew my wife was a teacher,
and we basically decided over and night that we're going
to give it a go. Then sold up our stuff

(01:36:36):
in South Africa, put all our birth but furniture in
a container and we got everything sorted and moved over
to New Zealand in April of twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Well, so do they advertise over there that New Zealand
needs teachers or did you look around and find.

Speaker 16 (01:36:55):
That out at the time.

Speaker 8 (01:36:57):
Well, a funny story, we didn't actually look look around
at all. It was actually just just a random message
from from one of the guys. We were, i would say,
in a good position, well as good as you can
be in South Africa.

Speaker 9 (01:37:14):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:37:16):
We we both had full full time jobs, we owned
a couple of houses and stuff like that, and it
was more random. There's certain things that happened, like I
don't know if you guys have heard about the powershitting
and stuff like that, where where the bower just just

(01:37:39):
goes off and there was a bit of issues with
internal the face and stuff like that. And at that
stage we had a small little baby which was about
six six months old, and we were just looking for
a place where we know that things that things.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Work, you know, right, And so what happened to your
two houses that you had over there when you moved here?

Speaker 8 (01:38:05):
So what happened was that we were in a fortunate
position that the one sold very quickly. It was it
was a new built. The unfortunate thing was the one
that we were currently led living in. It went on
the market and the time we moved it wasn't sold.
So I needed to rent that house out and I

(01:38:31):
think we we were in New Zealand for around six
months before it sold.

Speaker 3 (01:38:35):
So yeah, and could you get the money out of
South Africa from the sale of the house houses?

Speaker 8 (01:38:40):
Yes, so there's a African law you can you can
only move a million rand a year, not like that.
It's much in New Zealand. At the time, we didn't
have much, me and my wife.

Speaker 12 (01:38:56):
We we worked.

Speaker 8 (01:38:57):
We basically got a bit of pension money, or not
really pension money. We we got to play out what happened.
We worked at the same in employer and we basically
told him, look, this is this is our plan. He
was kind kind enough to support us and he paid

(01:39:23):
us both three three months worth of off wages and
we basically use that that money too to pay for
our flights and and a cor cor in New Zealand,
and that was basically it. We could only apply to

(01:39:45):
get the other money out of South Africa once we
became New Zealand residents.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Right right, So so that money, so you have that
money from sell the house, it sits in a bank
account and just once a year you take about the
equivalent of one hundred thousand New Zealand dollars out of
South African brand here.

Speaker 8 (01:40:06):
That's that's that's right. But I mean at that stage
the market was spread down, so we didn't I think
at that stage we only had like thirteen thousand dollars
that that we actually got out of out of that
that deal anyway, you know, yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:40:24):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
And then are you happy with your shift to New
Zealand as your wife happy and you and your kid
growing up here? Is it all working out for you?

Speaker 22 (01:40:30):
Ben?

Speaker 8 (01:40:32):
Yes, I would say it's we we went through a
lot of ups and downs in the beginning. So obviously
we've never even visited New Zealand. We decided to move
here with no family, no supports, no support system around us.
We ended up in Auckland, me being being a minor

(01:40:57):
and there's not a lot of mines in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
I basically listen, listen, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:41:03):
Yeah, So basically starting starting from scratch. We moved over.
We left free for two or three weeks, I think
it was. My wife was out of teaching for a
couple of years, so she walked into the New Zealand
schooling system, which was an absolute shock. It's a bit

(01:41:25):
different in South Africa. That was I would say that
was the biggest challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Well being glad it's working out. For a few challenges there,
but you've made it work. Thank you very much for
giving us for all oh one hundred and eighty to
eighty is that number to four? We're keen to hear
your story as well if you've moved here, particularly if
you had nothing but the clothes on your back, it
is twenty five to four.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Certainly seems like the situation close to nothing on the
but they close in your back for a lot of
South Africans moving here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
Does headlines with Wendy coming up, You've talked said the headlines.

Speaker 4 (01:41:57):
With your right.

Speaker 14 (01:41:57):
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(01:42:21):
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(01:42:44):
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(01:43:06):
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story at enzet herold dot co dot in set. Now
back to Matson Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Thank you very much, Wendy. And we're talking about moving
to another country with nothing to your name if you've
done at one hundred and eighteen eighty the sixtys, Hi guys.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
I went to OZ thirty years ago, aged nineteen, played
in pub bands for five years, had a ball, earned
good money, all paid cash, came back for a week's
holiday and New Zealand still here now. Have had made
enough to get into property from my time there. Wow,
so you're touring in pub bands just making cash. How

(01:43:44):
did you get the cash back into the country thirty
years ago? You just got like hiding it in your suitcase.
Come back and buy a house.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Give us your secrets. Yeah, the sticks to seas, geta guys.
I also moved to London with nothing to my name
in twenty thirteen and worked in pubs, did whatever I
could to hustle, managed to get a job in it,
made a bucket load of cash, bought a couple of
homes in New Zealand. Now I'm back here. I love
this country, but I'm so thankful for the to the

(01:44:12):
UK for making my life what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:44:14):
The sexy has got drunk, got a tattoo and bought
a ticket to London. Had no passport or visa. Well,
arrived in London with no job or anything where to live,
tried to take a taxi from the airport to Square
Mile and to end got kicked out, Ay dog, So
how did you get with no passport to London?

Speaker 6 (01:44:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
How was life going now?

Speaker 13 (01:44:33):
Ja dog?

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
I guess there might be some time from here. Got drunk,
got a tattoo and bought a ticket to London one night. Yep,
had no passport. So after that drunken night, you've got
a passport, I imagine, but didn't get a visa. Arrived
in London with no job or anywhere to live, tried
to take a taxi from the airport, ended up being kicked.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Out right, And that's where the story is. There's more
to that story.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
J Jado jodo. You need to fill in the gaps there.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Yeah, there's a lot missing from that story. Angela, how
are you hey?

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
How are you good?

Speaker 22 (01:45:06):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
So what's your story?

Speaker 16 (01:45:09):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:45:11):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:45:11):
Quite long?

Speaker 6 (01:45:12):
I hope you At the time.

Speaker 16 (01:45:14):
So twenty fourteen, I separated from my wife, you know,
relationship broke down from the Philippines. And then I decided
one day, okay, how do I visit my friend in
New Zealand. I went here we call this, to visit Pisa,
and then I met a few Filipinos and then they said,

(01:45:37):
oh you want to stay, you go to we'll call this,
you go school, you know schooling. I have like eight
hundred few Zealand.

Speaker 22 (01:45:46):
Dollars that time.

Speaker 16 (01:45:48):
So what I did was I phoned my ex wife
and I said, I need twelve thousand dollars to be
able to study. She sent me the money. I left
everything else with her house, whatever, cars.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
And then so basically, so you had some asshats and
you were like, you can have everything. You can have
the house and the cars if you give me twelve k.

Speaker 16 (01:46:14):
Yes, right, basically that's it.

Speaker 22 (01:46:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:46:17):
So I got the money, I enrolled, got an IT job,
and now I'm here, right, twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Right, and so and you became you became a citizen.

Speaker 12 (01:46:30):
Yes, yes, And.

Speaker 3 (01:46:32):
Now oh it took me nine years, nine years.

Speaker 16 (01:46:36):
Because of COVID, Yeah, because of the delays in COVID
and all that. Yeah, and then just recently got into
the property market, So.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Yeah, right, and how's your life basically, how's your life
going here? Angela?

Speaker 12 (01:46:48):
I'm still here, so.

Speaker 6 (01:46:51):
Yeah, yeah, and that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
And no intention to go back to the Philippines.

Speaker 16 (01:46:58):
For a minently, no, uh. And my my ex wife
and our son moved to the US, so.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
I go there and now and again, right, and so
you be very good English. So when you came here,
did you have good English like like you do now?

Speaker 16 (01:47:15):
She is because Philippines has been always with you know,
American English.

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
So so as you grew up with the Philippines, when
you grow up in the Philippines, do you just just
as everyone learn English.

Speaker 16 (01:47:28):
Yes, So I was going to say English is not
an official language, but all our official documentary.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
In English, right, okay, because I I've always wondered until
today why Philippine I speak with an American English, you know,
speak English with an American influence.

Speaker 16 (01:47:49):
So I mean it's still different from American English, but
when we go there, it's very very you know, we
understand us, we understand them just.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
And and is it a direct path? So you're here
and you sign up as a student, and you're you know,
you're you're playing away as an international student and does
that and then how does half from then does it
lead to citizenship?

Speaker 16 (01:48:17):
So okay, so I became a student and then when
I was a student, I was able to secure a
job in it. So I've always been it professional back
in the Philippines, twenty years of career it so it
was more like a how do you say that? A
walk in the park, right, and then in the park

(01:48:38):
for me to get that job, and then uh, you
got the job. And then as soon as I finished school,
I got my work visa. Three months later, I applied
for resident visa and then I got it, and then
I applied for permanent resident but that was COVID, so
that was the delay all of that, and then I

(01:48:59):
got my citizenship.

Speaker 20 (01:49:01):
Three years ago.

Speaker 13 (01:49:03):
I see.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Yeah, well, Angela, well played to you. Worked out a
tree came here with that rebarks, but he made it
work after a split up with his ex wife and
happy days living the life right it is quartered a
four beg arue surely wow.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:49:21):
Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk, say'd.

Speaker 2 (01:49:24):
Be very good afternoon. It is twelve to four. So,
if you've ever moved to a country with not much
to your name, my weight one hundred and eighteen EIGHTYC
number to call Gerard. We've got about three minutes, but
we're ten to hear your story.

Speaker 4 (01:49:38):
Nothing quick.

Speaker 25 (01:49:39):
In twenty sixteen, came across by myself with just a
bag of clothes, left my wife and my through two
year old son back in South Africa. Landed here. It
took me eight weeks to find a job. Landed a
good job at Systema Plastics.

Speaker 8 (01:49:54):
Vig here now for ten years.

Speaker 25 (01:49:55):
Got my citizenship about two years ago. And yeah, I'm
a manager now of a multimillion dollar company as an
industrial manager. My wife's a teacher at McLean's Primary, and yeah,
we're doing really well in loving it. And my my
daughter was conceived six weeks after my wife arrived.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Right, So say you the whole the whole plan was
you come over here, you sort everything out and then
the family comes over.

Speaker 16 (01:50:23):
Ye And how much how.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Much did you have to have organized before you thought
it was okay to you know, go come on over.

Speaker 25 (01:50:32):
So I came across on a visit a visa, looked
for the job, found the job, applied for my visa.
Two weeks later I started working and once my visa
was approved, my wife could apply for because she was
a dependent on me, so she could apply for hers.

Speaker 6 (01:50:46):
And four weeks later hers.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Was approved and she came across and were you so
you came over here? You must have had Did you
have any idea that you're going to be able to
find a job? Would you just landed and went let's go.

Speaker 25 (01:50:58):
So so I'm an electrician by trade, and I was
told by everyone that i'd spoken to one week.

Speaker 13 (01:51:04):
You'll have a job, not a problem.

Speaker 16 (01:51:05):
It took me eight weeks. They kept going, you need visa,
you need this, you need this, But eventually.

Speaker 12 (01:51:14):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
How are you feeling during those eight weeks, strade, You
must have been bricking yourself.

Speaker 12 (01:51:19):
Yeah, very very stressful.

Speaker 25 (01:51:22):
And I kind of bought a car cash and last,
a little cheap one for fifteen hundred dollars, a little
run around and I was sitting.

Speaker 6 (01:51:30):
Bullets by by the sixth week.

Speaker 25 (01:51:33):
I had gone for so many interviews I kind of
thought something had to land, and eventually it did.

Speaker 2 (01:51:41):
So why New Zealand, you know, because obviously we have
a lot of South African migrants Is there something about
New Zealand that you said that's the place or what
was it?

Speaker 25 (01:51:50):
So I had a like a priority list on which
country I wanted to leave South Africa for. Number one
was America, number two was Canada, number three was New Zealand,
and number four was Australia. Canada and America is very
very hard to get into and I wasn't willing to
app here for that, so New Zealand was.

Speaker 13 (01:52:10):
My third choice.

Speaker 7 (01:52:11):
Came across here.

Speaker 25 (01:52:12):
I don't think I would have ever gone to Australia
just for the reason it's full of Australians and it's
got a lot of bugs and snakes.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Yeah, there is that about Aussie. Yeah, but look at
you now, mate, You've got a multimillion dollar turnover company
that you're running and living the dreams. So it's worked
out a treat.

Speaker 13 (01:52:30):
Absolutely loving it.

Speaker 25 (01:52:31):
Yeah, I don't regret anything about coming to New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Yeah, Gerard, thank you very much for giving us a call.
Make great story. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:39):
Excellent.

Speaker 13 (01:52:40):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:52:40):
Ch As you go well, right, nineteen ninety two is
the text number. We'll be back very shortly. There's nine
to four.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
The big stories the big issues, to the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons
used talks that'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Six to four quick text here yet a Matt and Tyler.
My wife in South Africa cheated on me at age
thirty seven with my best mates in nineteen ninety nine.
I gave her the mates the house, then did it in.
Came to New Zealand with four thousand dollars in a suitcase.
My first car cost twelve hundred dollars forward Telstra. It
got stolen after four months. You poor bugger never got

(01:53:20):
my car stolen and crime rate in South Africa. I
have an amazing wife now, nineteen year old son managerial
job in the automotive businesses, and my ashes will stay
in New Zealand when my clock runs out. That's from Nico.

Speaker 3 (01:53:31):
Well, Nico, thank goodness, you're missus cheated on you with
your best mate. It all turned out for the best.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
You ever know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
When something happens, you know at the time it seems
like the worst thing in the world, But sometimes it's
just that crossroads that leads you to other things. So
true this Texas says Ossie blows and they hate us
over there. Stay here and make your own country better,
you whimps.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Oh that is a good text. Oh yeah, powerful, there
you go.

Speaker 4 (01:53:56):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
That brings us the end of the show. Thank you
so much for listening and thanks for all your calls
and texts. The serpul homes broadcaster of the Heatherdoplacy Allen
is up next and after four Heather talks to the
AU two scientists that just covered that asbestos and children's
play sand can become airborne. No what wow, cheep everyone,
But right now, Tyler, why am I playing this song

(01:54:19):
from the Violent Themes nineteen eighty three self titled debut album.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Ah, I almost know the name of the song, but
I'm not even going to take a punt because I'll
just embarrass myself. Okay, what's the name?

Speaker 7 (01:54:30):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Because we were talking about solar panels and how they
wear in the sun and whether they get damaged by
sunlight over the years, whether they blister in the sun
if you will. Turns out direct sunlight itself does not
cause high they call it fig solar panels damage is
they're specifically designed to mature it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:47):
Okay, that is beautiful, well done, and what a June.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
Yeah, yeah, absolute banger. Alright, everyone you've seen busy will
let you go back live nationwide tomorrow afternoon. Until then,
give them a taste a kiwi from us.

Speaker 14 (01:54:59):
Please smart how.

Speaker 20 (01:55:05):
Just mu.

Speaker 14 (01:55:08):
I'm not walking?

Speaker 13 (01:55:10):
I stop and.

Speaker 14 (01:55:12):
Strung out and I'm high. Can I join my stop?

Speaker 20 (01:55:16):
You check you out?

Speaker 2 (01:55:19):
Body'll be it's I say, she is, I don't even know.

Speaker 13 (01:55:23):
Quiet my girlfriend, she'said, she is starting to cry.

Speaker 16 (01:55:30):
John stop, strung out.

Speaker 4 (01:55:34):
Just cut up up, let me go.

Speaker 14 (01:55:40):
Like guy Whistler, and that's I.

Speaker 13 (01:55:43):
Let me go on.

Speaker 7 (01:55:46):
My hands.

Speaker 16 (01:55:47):
I know you.

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