Full Show Podcast: 04 June 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
New Stalk S ed be Welcome into the show. Sorry,
I just wanted to hear that intro music just a
little bit longer today. I've just had that feeling that
Rategy Clergy is the man. It's a good rah car.
But welcome into today's show and great to have you
with us.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Hey, you know, on the show a little bit, we've
been pointing out that AI isn't what it's cracked up
to be. It's a little bit of a magic trick.
And there's been a new study out that's found that
the more you learn and know about AI, the less
impressed you are by it, because it gives you confidence responses,
and it seems like it's sentient and it seems like

(01:12):
you're having a conversation, but it's just a token predictor.
It has no emotional attachment to what it's saying, and
no emotional attachment or ability to tell the truth. And
as we move on. We're seeing more and more that
its utility is very very narrow, which is concerning because
there's companies discover this and and you know the amount

(01:35):
of money that's been pumped into it, and all these
companies about to go public. There's a very real chance
of a mess of bubble popping. Yes, because essentially AI
doesn't do what it says it does, and the only
experts that say that it does do what they say
it does are the people that are trying to make

(01:55):
money from it.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
It's a pretender.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, Oh, it's a pretender. It's a magic trick. It
seems confident, it gives you an answer, it's got functionality,
it's at all, but it's not that great. But also
there's another side to AI right now, where people are
becoming more and more useless and not doing things that
they could do instead getting AI to do it. And
as a result, the world is just being completely and

(02:19):
utterly flooded with slop there and there is a movement
to push back on that slop. And this great thinker
on the topic had this to say, if.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
You ever sent me an email that was generated with AI,
you're dead to me. Truly. I've been getting more and
more emails, messages, texts that have obviously been either gussied
up with AI or fully generated. And if you do
this to me, I'm just going to cut you off
because you already cut me off. You know you're not
talking to me. It's not you. You expect me to read

(02:55):
something that you didn't write, and don't give me that
it's the future either, it's not my future. I'm not
interested in communicating with chatbots for the rest of my
life while we pretend that it's actually a person that
I'm talking to. If everybody starts doing that, I will
just not If your business uses a customer service agent
that is actually just an LM, then as soon as
I catch on, I'm just not going to use your

(03:17):
business anymore. And I'm not always going to catch on, right.
I'm sure people have sent me AI generated writing and
I haven't notice. But my point is that when I
do notice, I'm out. I want to start a new
cultural code of conduct where it's considered to be a
grave personal insult if you expect somebody to communicate with
you while you use a chatbot to communicate with them,

(03:37):
to hold up your end of the conversation Okay, I
consider it a baseline level of human decency to never
ask me to waste my time reading something that nobody
wrote me.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's so good, it's very well articulated.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, that's Robert Komeninski. So yeah. So reading something that
no one bothered to write. I think that's a basic
level of thing. Not going to a movie that has
any component of it created by AI, not listening to
any music that has any component of it created by AI.
And when I say created, it's not created. There's no

(04:12):
creation in AI. That's not what it does. No, and
definitely not responding to any email or taking on board
any information from an advertisement that is created in any way,
shape and form of AI. Because if the person communicating
with you or pretending to do art can't be bothered
doing it themselves, then why should you treat it with

(04:36):
any respect at all? Yeah, because they are. If they're
willing to feed you slop, you don't have to eat it.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I think the superseds because many of us, I'm sure,
have done this. If we see an advert in particular
that really annoys us, it's just done poorly. It's really
shocking audio or script or whatever it is. You look
at that company and say, how dare you embarrass me
and waste my time with your terrible advert. I'm not
going to use your business. This is the new option
that instead of being annoyed if you use AI slop

(05:02):
or some sort of nonsense from chet GPT screen your business,
you lazy, lazy people.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Yeah, and then where's people think that they're getting used
from AI at moments. It's a very limited tool and
you'll find it over time and that's fine, But I'm
not responding to anyone that sends me an email. I'm
with this guy yeap that is created by AI.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Fight the AI very good. Right on to today's show.
After three o'clock When to ever talk about tribute acts?
This is after a Pink Floyd tribute act in New
Zealand has been forced to cancel a scheduled show in
Napier at the last minute after receiving a cease and
dissorder from the rights holders of the original band. The
Pink Floyd experience, by all accounts, is very popular, says

(05:43):
it was blindsided by the legal action, which effectively shut
down the performance despite the tour already being underway and
ticket sold fans. We're left disappointed organizers now working through refunds.
But the broader question for you tribute acts are they
really worth the money you pay to go and see
a tribute act?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
It depends which one. So they're just like all bands.
There's good ones and bad ones. I tell you what
be on and again the ever tribute bands. I'm here
to see them beyond again good?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay, right, I'll tell you word for it. Beyond again
A very very very good.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
So you have good tribute acts and bad tribute acts, right.
This means what you value. If you value the musicianship
and the accuracy and the performance, or if you need
them to look a lot like the artists, what the
stage production. You could argue that Queen Are touring is
a tribute act to Queen because that since Freddy Mercury
passed away.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
I would argue that, yeah, But looking forward to your
thoughts on that after three o'clock are tribute acts worth
the money? After two o'clock ESPCA ad options in New
Zealand are dropping as the cost of living crisis. I'm
not going to actually call it that, as cost of
having a pet goes up. So nearly two thousand, four
hundred fewer animals re honed over the past five years,

(06:57):
and the latest figure show that most of that was
down to people saying that pets are a luxury that
they can no longer afford. So the question we've got
for you is have you adopted recently? Are pets just
a luxury? And are they that expensive?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
What a pet's cost but a jelly meat for a cat,
but a water my dog, my dog doesn't cost that much.
Some pickies you got to get, you've got to get
a few jabs, but a.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Pet's really that expensive fed expenses. Colin's got some nice toys,
He's got a good bed.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I reckon people aren't going to their speca because they're
getting designer dogs. That's what's happening there. I think where
I go, those dogs everywhere, but fancy dogs.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
There's a lot of designer dogs out there.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, there's no dogs that you don't know what kind
of dog they.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Are taking Your calls on that after two o'clock is
right now, Let's have a discussion about bereavement. Lea for
Christ Church mother, she started a campaign calling for breavement
leave to be increased from three days to ten days. Sadly,
she lost her daughter in a road accident, and she's
now launched that petition, arguing people are often forced to
use sick or annual leave instead, and that returning to
work too soon can be harmful, both both personally and professionally.

(08:04):
In New Zealand, workers are entitled to a minimum of
three days paid bereavement leave for close family members, though
employers can offer more at their discretion. So do you
agree with what this particular mother, who has obviously gone
through a lot of trauma and grief losing her daughter,
is trying to argue for going from three to ten

(08:25):
days bereavement leave in legislation? Is that the right thing
to do in your view of one hundred and eighty
ten eighty?

Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, I mean, it's a deeply personal situation and there's
different levels of grief I think, and I just can't
imagine what she's gone through with losing a child. I mean,
it's incomprehensible to me and I just hate to even
think about it. But at the same time, ten days
bereavement leave is that because you completely unable to do anything.

(08:59):
I mean, the thing is that most employers are pretty nice,
right and if they care about you, they're going to
look after you, right, Yeah, I mean it's been my experience. Yeah,
you don't see a lot of I mean there's very
few that are gonna, you know, force you to come back.
If you're just in a terrible situation, they're much more
likely to send flowers and ask how you are.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
That's right. Yeah. I would think most you know, good employers,
and I think there are the majority good employees out
there in New Zealand that if you have gone through
the loss of a family member, they can see that.
You know, you would be no good at work in
those circumstances, and you need to look after yourself. And
whether that's three days or four days or five days,
there's some flexibility there. But then you ask the question, ok,

(09:38):
is ten days enough? And you know, you'd look at
what's happened to this particular christ Church mother, most people
would say ten days is not enough.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah, I mean it is a tough one because you
want to have sympathy. But as I was saying before,
when my my lovely mum passed away, which was the
most hardcore thing I've ever been through, I went to
work the next day because I don't know, I didn't
want to just bang around the house. I stayable night,
drink a bottle of whiskey, fell face down on on

(10:08):
the floor, woke up seeing I've kicked over a lot
of tables in the house, yep. And then I went
to work. So probably the bigger issue is that I
probably shouldn't even go to work in that stuf.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
That's one way to deal with it. But the distraction,
I can understand the distraction argument, right that. And look,
maybe I'm throwing this out there, but maybe it is
something that primarily men do. I wouldn't want to be
at home by myself, no, right, If I'm dealing with
that sort of stuff, I want a distraction. I want
people around me, and I process that at a later time.
But I process that better if there's see there's people

(10:37):
around and we're not talking about what's happened. It's just
easier when people are around.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Well, the thing is that the whole funeral ritual is
about having something to do a lot of it, isn't it.
So you do have you know, if you're at home
and you're the one that's taking charge on the funeral
and all those arrangements, that is something to do, and
it's often after the funeral is over that I've noticed
when everything's packed up and you've thrown the last asparagus

(11:01):
roll out and you're just standing there with nothing more
to organize, that that it.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Really really hits you.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
But yeah, I mean, and it's so hard to compare
different people's grief on different situations. But right now we
have four weeks paid and you'll leave twelve public holidays
days in New Zealand, ten days paid sick leave, and
three days paid bereavement leave. And I believe there's also

(11:29):
a potential of ten days a family violence leave. So
you've got to say, we're very, very generous. Already we
had the five days sick leave and then COVID that
got moved up to ten, but it never got moved
back down again, did it?

Speaker 6 (11:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (11:42):
So what do you say, I one hundred and eighty
ten eighty what was your experience when you needed to
take bereavement leave? And do you agree it needs to
be extended? And if you're an employer, how do you
feel about this? How would you feel about an extra
seven days potential bereavement leave that you would allow your
employees to take when and if needed.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
And let's get philosophical on it. What's the best way
to grieve? What is the most healthy way to grieve
a tragic loss?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty n call
nineteen nine two is the text eighteen past one, the.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
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Speaker 3 (12:21):
Twenty one past one. So a christ Church grieving mother
is seeking to extend bereavement lead from three to ten
days in legislation. So do you agree with that? But also,
what is the best way to deal with grief? Is
it taking time off work, more time or as many people?
Is it good to get a distraction and go to work.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Shirley says, I'm so sorry to hear about the lady
who lost her daughter. Yeah, I mean, it's so hard
to even get you head around. As I said before, however,
I'm self employed. I looked after my dying mum, saw
her through her death. My dad already passed, and then
Grandma went on her way. I juggled the best way
I could and came out the other end. That's from Shirley.
But what do you think, Caroline?

Speaker 7 (13:00):
Right? Well, short story short version.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
I was working in a mail industry which was aluminium joinery.
The boss's wife didn't really like me being there with
all the boys. The day my dad died, she gave
me my resignation letter.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
What yeah, yep, I'm not related though, just coincidentally Carolyn
or No, she knew my.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Dad was not healthy. Put it that way.

Speaker 8 (13:30):
And the day my son came in and said, Mum,
there's Grande's passed away, she said, oh, can I just
give you five minutes? And I'm like, no, you're not
took off when and saw it my dad out went
back to work and said, look, my dad's passed and
she said, oh, well he's resignation letter.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Wow that is I mean, from what you've told us there,
that is incredibly heartless. That's cold.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah. Wow.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
How did you respond to that, Carolyn?

Speaker 8 (14:00):
You can imagine a few if bombs going off and
looking at her like I wanted to punch her, and
the heat attitude. Yeah, it was so devastating. I was
like wow, you know, and all the boys just looked
at me like going what just happened?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
And what were your terms of leaving? Did you have
to work out a month or how did that part
out out the door, right then?

Speaker 7 (14:24):
Yeah, see you light that bit, don't need.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
You Yeah, when when was this?

Speaker 7 (14:29):
It was about seven years ago.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Now that doesn't it doesn't seem very legal to me.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
Well, that was the dirty technics that she tried. She
didn't like another female working in aluminium ministry, so she
just pushed me out, you know. And it was so
devastating because I was probably one out of three staff
that had a bonus every month, you know, because I
pushed my workout and that was the thanks gratitude whatever.

(15:00):
I was like, Yeah, you're a mutt, You're an absolute
m Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Well that's you know, it's horrendous, that's partless right, yeah,
you know, but I think most employers are pretty good
when someone they're working for, because most humans are pretty good,
right yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Because that's psychopathic. Surely that anyone who does that sort
of stuff, that's that's virgin on psychopathic. But what do
you say as an employer, have you got some flexibility
and if any employee comes to you and see as
I've had a death in the family and I need
this much time off, I imagine most employers would say,
no problem, take as much time as you need. But
what do you say nineteen ninety two is the text?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
Why ten days? We're not thirteen days or fifteen days
or twenty days? Is this text there? Yeah, it is
interesting that we work in those multiples. I mean, five
days is actually seven days with the weekend, isn't it?
Coreat five days is actually nine days, isn't it? Depending
on when you position it?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Very freary?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
It is interesting. You know, how much how long do
you need? I mean, it's ten days enough for a
lot of people.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Wouldn't be this gets complicated? I always think about this
with speeding limits, speed limits? Why are the one hundred?
If you worked out exactly precisely for the best speed
limit for the ultimate result for the country, then wouldn't
it be something like one oh three point two seven nine.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
It's a good point. I never thought about that. I'm
going I'm going to go down a rabbit hole.

Speaker 9 (16:21):
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Speaker 4 (16:21):
Rounding reduces legitimacy of.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Enforcement. If you ask me, ya, what do you say
to that's right? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It is twenty five past
one coming up after the break. When I have a
chat with John and he reckons, a decent employer will
respond appropriately, whether they have legislation or not. That's coming up.

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Speaker 3 (18:28):
It's twenty nine past one and we're talking about a
posh to extend bereavementally from the current three days and
legislation to ten days in legislation. So what do you
think about that? Is that a good idea to extend
out that bereavement leave an employee can take and what
was the best way for you to grieve the loss
of a family member? Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighties the number to call get a John afternoon, lads?

(18:50):
How are we very good? Mate? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (18:53):
It's good.

Speaker 11 (18:55):
So I've got a small business and upend half a
dozen people employed. But my view on this is that
if you're a halfway's decent employer, and I'm only have
to be halfways decent if someone's lost a close family member,
obviously you're going to do everything you can to give
them as much time off as they need. You know,
if someone that worked for me had lost a son, daughter, husband, wife, whatever,

(19:18):
you're not even going to stick to the three days
and three days is for a close family member and legislation.
But obviously three days aren't going to do it. Apart
from having to organize everything, they've got to sort themselves
out emotionally too, So there's no point of forcing someone
back to every from the business point of view, put
aside the person themselves. No point in forcing someone back
to work when they're just purely not in the right

(19:40):
headspace for it. So you know, I don't think I'm
unusual in thinking that way. I think any employer pretty much,
pretty much any employer would think that way. So I
don't see the need to change the legislation because I
think if you do that, it's simply going to become
like the sickly entitlement of ten days, where you know

(20:03):
ninety percent of your employees won't abuse it, but you
will get ten percent who will. I had to go
working for me last year. He's long gone now, but
he got such a very sick and Monday sort of thing.
Until he used up as sickly memmetrically his health improved.
And you know, I had a guy for me working

(20:23):
for me a few years ago who made the mistake
of not keeping track of what he claimed in the
past and telling me he did three grandmothers pass away.
So you know, you do get.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Possible but unlikely. Possible, Yeah.

Speaker 11 (20:40):
It could happen, yeah, unlikely.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But but there's got to be a point that John.
There's there's going to be a point, though, John, when
someone has been away for a certain amount of time,
because you're you know, you're a compassionate guy, and most
employers are, but say someone's away and they just can't
get themselves right and your school, still got a job
that needs to be done, and eventually that becomes untenable. Right,
So there's got to be a point where, no matter

(21:04):
how empathetic employer is, they're going to have to go, Wow,
you're going to have to come back.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Or move on.

Speaker 11 (21:11):
Well, I think it's a discussion, isn't it. You know,
if you've got a relationship with that person, you're going
to if they're ringing up, you know once every week
saying look I'm still not ready, I think yeah, you'd
get the man. You'd say, look, we're going to have
to have a chat because obviously I've got a business
to run, so let's let's talk about how we can
get you back to work, you know, to help you

(21:31):
move on with your life as well. And then if
they just can't manage it, then I think they're going
to need other help than an employer, to be perfectly honest,
But we're just on.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
That John, I mean, would unusual. Yeah, But but here's
where that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Rights you have that conversation with your employee and set
you know, I know you're going through a hard time
at the moment, but you know, I need you to
come back or work out a plan and when you're
coming back. But then you as an employer, how far
do you go to managing that? You know, do you
pay for therapy sessions for that particular employee? I suppose
what I'm saying is where is the risk? You know,
how far does the responsibility go for an employer to

(22:05):
manage what happens in the life of an employ And
sometimes I think maybe that balance feels a little bit
out of whack.

Speaker 11 (22:13):
I can do sometimes it can do it. Look, if
you've got you know, partiguling in small businesses, people become
more than just employees. You know the yes, there your employees,
but you know about their private lives, you know them personally,
and you know, like for me, I've got people who've
worked for me.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
I think.

Speaker 11 (22:33):
You know, I've got a couple of ladies who work
in my office, and the one who's worked for me
the least time has worked for me seven years, you know,
so you get to know them and their families very
very well. So it's a good question, but a difficult
one to answer.

Speaker 12 (22:47):
I think.

Speaker 11 (22:49):
I mean, for me personally, if one of my team
was going through something that they just couldn't manage it,
then year we'd talk about helping them with counseling and
whatever else we could, and yes, eventually the job has
to be done. So you know, it's provided for in
the employment legislation that you have a right to expect
that the job can be fulfilled. But I think again,

(23:12):
that's how long is a piece of string. I think
every particular instance is on its merits. You know, if
you've got someone and really only one of the recipes
for toast, then that's a little bit harder than if
you've got you know, someone who someone else can do
a little bit more and full in a this and
whatever you you know, you can make it work.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
You talk about different people, though in different value their company.
There's also different levels of how much people are emotionally
affected by something. And also because there are people that
might come to you and they are absolutely devastated by
the passing of their cat, and who are you as
an employer to say that you're not cut up by this?

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You know, it needs to be.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
A spouse, partner, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, you know, if someone's.

Speaker 11 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the way the legislation is
set up at the moment. I think it's referred to.
I can't remember exactly, but I think it's referred to
as a close family member. Now I don't think that
includes pets at the moment, and God forbid that it
ever does. But you know, again, it's it's a matter
of working out. I think what's going to work best

(24:21):
for both parties.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
I suppose in the end.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah, thank you so much for you call John. Yeah,
appreciate your thoughts.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
So do you agree with John or your employer like
like John that you know there's that flexibility already there,
whether you have legislation or not. Nine to two nine
two is a text and want your views on a
one hundred and eighty ten eighty This.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Texas says, it's crazy. We give someone with a sprained
ankle a week off without batting an eyelid. They lose
a family member only three days. Razy.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
What do you say to that? Headlines with ray Lean coming.

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Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Thank you very much, Aleen. It is twenty one to one,
so we're talking about the push by a christ Church
mother who sadly lost her daughter to extend bereavemently from
three days in legislation to ten days. So taking your
calls on that old one hundred eighty ten eighty, what
is your view? But also you brought it up before me.
You know the objective nature of grief. What matters to

(26:27):
somebody might not matter to another person. But I think also,
you know, we talk about pets, and pets are a
big part of a lot of people's lives. So if
you're an employer and someone comes to you and says,
you know, my dog or my cat has passed away
and I need to take at least a couple of
weeks off to deal with it, how would you respond
to that? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that
number to call a nine two nine two is the text?

Speaker 14 (26:50):
Eric?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Ye?

Speaker 15 (26:54):
I'm good mate.

Speaker 16 (26:56):
I just thought i'd call up because you call it
earlier on was just talking about what happened with their employment,
and I'm actually ring up my partners stand beside me,
just ring up on behalf of her.

Speaker 15 (27:07):
She didn't want to speak on the radio.

Speaker 16 (27:10):
So yeah, I think that definitely for starters. The chap
you just had on that was an employer. He actually
made some good points and I'm all for what he said,
and I definitely think there needs to be some more
changes to people that have lost their husband's daughters, people
that are close relatives. You know, they need more time
to actually organize the funeral and get through the grieving

(27:33):
process and stuff like that. Everyone's different so might take
more than others. But the reason why I believe this
is because of what happened to my partner and she
still is affected by it today. We should have taken
the guy to called over this. She lost her dad
who dad passed away. We had to organize his funeral
and stuff like that. She took two days off work.

(27:53):
She went back to work and this boss guy who's
I've not been mentioned any names, but he'd been known
for being a bit of an idiot, and he called
her in the office and he told her that she
was disrespectful for taking time off for a dad's funeral.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
What partners, Yeah, And my partner.

Speaker 16 (28:13):
Responded and said, my dad just died. And his words
were he said, so what. People die all the time.
So anyway, she went to get out of the office.
She had let me out and he hurled her in
the office and jammed the door shut, and he basically said,
you have to listen to me because I'm your employer.
And she finally said, let me out of here, and

(28:35):
so she got out of there, and then he still
followed her and he said listen to me. I'm your employer,
and you will listen. So she turned around to him,
grabbed the bag and said, you're not my employer anymore.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
This didn't stop.

Speaker 16 (28:47):
Then she came home because I'm her partner, and I
rang the guy and said, what the heck's going on?
He continued to abuse her, abused my mother in law,
and tried to abuse me, but it didn't.

Speaker 15 (28:59):
Work on me.

Speaker 17 (29:01):
And the worst part about this, I'm not going to
knock you guys, but it was.

Speaker 16 (29:04):
Actually an exclusive Brethren outfit Farms to the North. I'm
not going to mention names, but the way they treated
their staff because they weren't part of their organization in
that situation disgraceful. And it wasn't the first time.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Well that's so, that's so sociopathic behavior.

Speaker 16 (29:23):
Sociopathic and he'd be known for doing this.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I mean, who could say that, who could go? You know,
it's disrespectful to take time off for your father's funeral.
Who could say those words, You're something seriously deeply wrong
with you. If you say those words to anyone.

Speaker 16 (29:40):
That's the absolute truth. And before that, she hadn't had
too much of a problem, but she'd heard stories about
the particular manager anyway, because he was religious. So I
said to him, you'll be you'll be responsible, not to me, mate,
but to your lord, and that that's where it hurt him.
In the pocket, that's where it really hurt him. And
then he started backtracking and how he could fix things up,

(30:00):
and it's too late, mate, You've done the damage. But
he told my mother in law and my partner that
she'd go to Howell and all this sort of stuff.

Speaker 15 (30:06):
You know, I was there.

Speaker 16 (30:07):
I've seen it with iron eyes afterwards what happened. And
my partner's not a liar.

Speaker 17 (30:12):
But yeah, so.

Speaker 16 (30:14):
There's a lot of employers are great, but there's some
employers out there that need this legislation because they are nasty.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Well, the legislation, the legislation as it stands is three days,
so yeah, that would that would cover you know, the funeral.
But yeah, so you think it should be you think
two weeks.

Speaker 16 (30:35):
Look, if it's your cousin that you haven't seen for
twenty years, it's different story, right, But if it's your partner,
your kids, possibly even your pet that you've had for
twenty years, you know, possibly in that situation, a bit
more time to get to get through it. Not everyone
would agree with that, but but definitely for close family members,

(30:56):
there needs to be you know, minimum of probably a
week anyway, probably a couple of weeks allowance, whether people
take the employers have got to remember that this is
not something that happens every day. It's not like every
year you're going to get seven days or two weeks
and it's going to accumulate. It's not like everyone dies
every week. So we can't come up with the argument

(31:18):
as an employer, and I'll work for myself, but that's
people will abuse the system because that's going to be
the that's going to.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Be the argument, or why should we pay for their data?
Da da Right.

Speaker 16 (31:32):
Well, at the end of the day, you know, it's
like I said, people don't die every week. It's only
once in a while that someone close close to your
passes away.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, thank you so much for you call Eric, and
I'm so sorry that happened to you, to your wife.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
And good she got out of there taking your calls
on that. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty So
the breavement leave a Christ which mother wants talks tended
to ten days? Good idea or not? It is a
quarter to two bag very shortly.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Your home of afternoon talk man Heaven Tayler Adams afternoons call, oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks, they'd be too.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Do we need to extend the number of breevement days
in legislation?

Speaker 3 (32:12):
Ellen? What's your thoughts? Get Ellen? Oh sorry, yeah, yeah,
good to chat. What's your sing now?

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Mate? Right?

Speaker 18 (32:23):
I think it's adequate and stay where it is because
we're absolutely guaranteed three days minimum to start and that's
in legislation. But there's no number of times you can
call upon that in one year if it's immediate family.
So people are forgetting that. I sympathized with the first

(32:48):
caller just before me, but I had the exact opposite.
I called my boss up at nine o'clock at night
and said that I needed time off, and he said,
take the rest of the week off. And then he
said if you need more time.

Speaker 19 (33:04):
Take more off.

Speaker 18 (33:07):
I could just chuck it into sick leave or take
eating your leave or unpaid leave. They were flexible. And
the unit I was operating, they shut it down for
one day. Why they found somebody else to work it
for me, so.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Right, so they actually they figured out a backup strategy
while you were grieving and taking that time off and
making sure you're okay. And that allowed you to take
however long you needed.

Speaker 18 (33:33):
Yes, and they even offered me work counseling, and I
found the best counseling I had was actually going back
to work after a few days, just to get a
bit of normality back into life again.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
That's where I thought it would be allen that most
employees and maybe look, I've been fairly lucky in the
places that I've worked over my lifetime, not just here
but the various workplaces. But that's been my response as well,
that you know, when there's a family member's passed away,
it is just take as much time as you need,
don't worry, you just focus on what you need to do,
and when you're ready, you come back. But there is

(34:07):
a certain amount of time there was alan that you know,
some people go through some pretty traumatic things, including this
christ each mother. But if she said I need three months,
you can understand and empathize with that. But as an employer,
then you've got to start thinking, Okay, I know what
you're going through, but we do need you back here
at some stage.

Speaker 18 (34:25):
Yes, and there'll be some special cases out there, but
I think the legislation more than covers the general population,
and that's where it needs to be worded, and it
is worded as such. For immediate family, it's locked in
legislation and you can go for it, and for anybody

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else it's just one day off work and prove that
you did go to a funeral. So I think it's
more than adequate.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
What do you reckon for pets? Allen? What's your view
on on the breavement leave? For a pet that passes dice,
it have.

Speaker 18 (35:01):
To be the only family member in the household. But yeah, yeah,
you normally give some of the and say take a
sick day.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
It's interesting, like when they talk about three days paid
parental leave, it's you know, in the legislation, it's a
spousal partner, parent, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild's spousal or partner's parents.
So if you were going to legislate around pets, and
currently there isn't any bereavement for pets, but would it
be how would you break that up?

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Dog?

Speaker 4 (35:31):
A day cat? You don't need any a bereavement leave
for a cat?

Speaker 5 (35:34):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Gold budge half a day for a bird?

Speaker 4 (35:37):
You reckon gone goldfish? Fifteen minutes late to work.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
At least an hour for a goldfish? Surely? Yeah, Alan,
thank you very much mate. I appreciate your call. So,
Alan Rekins, it's okay the way it is. Do you
agree it is nine minutes to two? Beg for it? Surely?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tyler Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
They'd be six two two. Well how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Here you go?

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Not too bad? What's your thoughts about the breatment leaf?

Speaker 20 (36:10):
Hey? Well, I had four close relatives guy in four years, right,
so I've taken my fair share of a recent leave
and my employer couldn't have been better. I literally started
a job and was there two weeks when my father
died and I had two weeks off and they didn't
question it at all.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Right, So what did they say to you? So when
that happened to you? And obviously you know, sorry he
had to go through there, but you know that is
a lot of people have to go through that unfortunately.
But what did you What did they say to you?
Take as much time as you need.

Speaker 20 (36:43):
Yeah, they said, you've had you've had a bad few years.
You know, lost my mum in twenty twenty, my sister
in twenty two, grandfather twenty one, and father in twenty three.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Well that's a rough run. That's a rough run.

Speaker 20 (36:55):
Well, there was a rough run, certainly was, but you know,
you can't do much about it, unfortunately. But yeah, they
were just good as gold. I couldn't couldn't fault them
for that.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So on that, Well, do you think this legislation needs
to be changed or do you think there's more employers
like like you had out there then than not?

Speaker 20 (37:14):
I think unfortunately, it isn't enough. Like my employer, I
think ten days, Yeah, I can see a lot of
people would use it, but they necessarily wouldn't take the
whole time. If you know what, Yeah, you can you
can take five days and go back to work. If
you're in the right head space, of course, but sometimes

(37:35):
it's worse than that, you know, I don't think people
would taking the mickey out of it.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know, Yeah, I mean it seems to me it's
a very individual thing that some people want to go
back to work because they need that distraction and be
around people to help them deal with it, and then
other people need that genuine time off to process it.
So yeah, I think that's a fair point. But well, yeah,
I appreciate your thoughts very much. Thank you very much
for giving us a call. Have a great afternoon, so
you mate, right, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (38:01):
All right, what a chat that is being so so
many opinions come through on this on the text and phones.
I'd say that people on the whole field huge amount
of sympathy for this woman.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Who tragic lost your child.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
It's just too horrible to comprehend what you go through
under those circumstances. But people will also point out that
most employers are pretty good around this kind of thing.
And with ten days sickly four weeks and you'll leave,
and three days bereavement leave, I think people generally believe
that the law is pretty generous as it is at

(38:36):
this point. But yeah, griefs are part of life. People
get over it in different ways. But you know, if
you've got a boss who isn't compassionate, then you're probably
going to have problems across the board where you work, aren't.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
You spot off? Yeah? Exactly right, great discussion. Thank you
to everyone who gave us a buzz and shared their story.
Coming up after two o'clock is PCA adoptions are dropping,
So if you've adopted recently, we want to hear from you.
Nine two nine two is the text. New Sport and
Weather is coming up. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
I hope you're having a great Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
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Speaker 1 (39:09):
It the big stories, the leak issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons
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Speaker 4 (39:22):
Be geta to you, Welcome back into the show. Seven
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Radio Awards are on at the New Auckland Convention Center.

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There's a lot of excitement happening out there.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
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makeup done out there like over there the glow up room,
Mike Costing just getting as he had done and then
a little bit of lippy put on there out there.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
How long does he need? I mean he's been going
for the last what six hours?

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Let's a that's a full court press getting him ready
for the awards tonight. Yeah, it's a big job. Yeah.
Wellly normally wins award, doesn't he?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
He does? He does?

Speaker 4 (39:57):
You nominated for anything?

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Tyler? Unfortunately know not this well? Actually news talks there
b Station of the.

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Speaker 3 (40:08):
I'll take it.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I'm nominated for two awards. You are ye, Best sports podcast,
I believe for the Agenda for the Agenda podcast, great body,
Best sports commentator, nice for the a SEC some kind
of sports commentary nomination.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yep, yeah, well, good luck mate. I'm looking forward to
your speech. There you go. No, no, I'm not. I've
been banned after last year. I'm not surprised. Actually, you know,
you know what you did. I don't need to break
over those old goals, but.

Speaker 4 (40:33):
They're inappropriate speech and celebrating too much. And look, I'll
be allowed back next year. Yeah, yeah, you're will willing
to next year. You tainted me a little bit as well. Mate,
Well we'll sweep the board next.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Year, Tyler, exactly, mate, you have no doubt about it. Right,
let's get into this topic. This is going to be
a doozy and looking forward to it. So SPCA adoptions
in New Zealand they have dropped quite considerably as the
cost puts pressure on pit owners. So nearly two thy
four hundred fewer animals re honed over the past five years.
Major centers like Auckland and christ Shoots they saw the

(41:05):
biggest decline. So the SPCA is tighter household budgets. I mean,
pits are increasingly seen as a luxury or some owners
are also struggling to ford basics like vic here and vaccinations.
So the question we've got for you is have you
got a rescue animal or rescue dog, a rescue cat
and how has it gone for you? And also the

(41:26):
pits really need to be that expensive? Yeah, I mean
are they that expensive? And people say that people don't
have a lot of pets at the moment. I was
just thinking this very morning before I read this.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Article, that there are doggies absolutely everywhere, and I actually
did a bit of a theory that because people are
having less children, they're having people have dogs.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
They're replace the kids with dogs. I think you're onto
something there, and dogs are product trend.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
A dog's probably cheaper than a kid, I'd say overall, definitely.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
You know, you don't have to pay for them to
go to UNI or whatever. They don't need school uniforms.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, But do they have to be that expensive.

Speaker 4 (42:00):
Because I'm pretty sure when I was growing up on
the farm, our dogs weren't very expensive. They've just got
eight scraps, right, I mean back of the day, it
was just whatever was left in the rubbish bin then'
that's the dog's food.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
You didn't need to get any of this fancy schmancy.

Speaker 4 (42:15):
Well, if they're hungry, they could go and get a rabbit.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's right. Yeah, and you keep.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
But those kind of dogs. You know sometimes that that
dog wouldn't be around anymore for whatever reason, and you
wouldn't really know why something had happened. But yeah, we
love our dogs right now. It is quite risky though,
isn't it. And I'd love for people to share their
experiences with us on our eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty because if you get a rescue dog, you don't

(42:40):
really know what you're getting.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
To the roll of the dice. And when I got
my dog.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
I had a very specific list of things that I
needed from the dog.

Speaker 21 (42:47):
So I.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
Found the breed that fulfilled all those things that I
needed and wanted from their current dog, Colin, Yes, great
New Zealander listening at home.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Great dog, Good boy, Colin. You a good boy, Colin. Oh,
you're a good boy.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Colin.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Oh, you're a good boy.

Speaker 22 (43:04):
So.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
But because if you get a dog and it's a
pain in the bar for whatever reason, that makes your
life very very complicated, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
Yeah. I one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We've had
two rescue dogs. The first one older dog Cecy. We
think she was about sort of ten when we got her,
and little beagle, lovely dog to humans, hated other dogs.
She was a very very angry beagle. But that meant,
I mean, we kind of figured it out in the end,
but that meant we couldn't really let her off leash
at the dog park. She tried to take down a
German shepherd one time. She slipped her lead and then

(43:34):
just went after this German shepherd thank god. The German
shepherd wasn't up for fighting. The German shepherd just tried
to run away and say, what's this little thing nipping
at my heels?

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Yeah? And so these stats don't point out whether it
is that people are having less dogs or they're just
having less rescue dogs. Because what if people are just
being like me and maybe you frown at me, but
spending a lot to get the perfect dog that they
know is exactly the one they want.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, design a dog? What do you say? I e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty if you've got a
rescue dog? How did that go? Was it a bit
of a roll of the dice? And do pets need
to be that expense? If nineteen nine two is the text,
it is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Wo your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk
said be.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Fourteen past two. So adoptions are down from the SBCA.
Have you ever adopted a rescue pet and what was
the experience like? And also as a follow up question,
are pets that expensive? To one oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you
want to send a deck nine two nine to two
is that number. Plenty of tech texts coming through Gooday, guys,

(44:41):
Pets don't need to be expensive. We have never in
over forty years had pet insurance. We can't currently have
two cats that cost us only a bag of dry
cat food every fortnight or so from the supermarket. We
also used to breed GSBs and only twice we went
to the vets. People spend far too much. That's from
Sharon and this one. Getdy guys. A lot of greyhounds

(45:03):
getting rehomed at the moment. Maybe people are getting them
instead of going to the SBCA, And no, it's made
it harder for homing retired.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
That would be an interesting circumstance, wouldn't if that was
the case, Because there's been really a real big, a
real big push for the rehousing of the greyhounds, including
the use of Sander's Little Helper on the advertising. That's right,
And so if you've got to pump thousands of greyhounds
into the market, then there's gonna be you know, there's
only so many people that.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Need dogs, right, yep, that's going to have an impact.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
The Sixes agrees with that previous six dogs do not
need to be expensive, feed them well, treat them well.
But except that if the vet's asking for a thousand
dollars for some problem, it might be good night nurse
for Fido. No one calls their dog fighto anymore did they?
That used to be the go to name for a
dog fighter. This tixus is so true. People are too

(45:51):
materialistic to have kids, so they pump all their love
into expensive pups.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I think there's a lot in that. What do you say,
millennials eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty his number
to call, get a preeta Hi, your preacher, hie to
share with.

Speaker 12 (46:08):
You, not a bad thank you, my family and life.

Speaker 11 (46:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (46:14):
We've got to rescue from the SCCA in Weddington about
four years ago. So she was i would say, about
four months old at that time and she's got a
big five years old now in July.

Speaker 20 (46:26):
So she is.

Speaker 22 (46:29):
Cross between a boxer and the staffy.

Speaker 4 (46:32):
Oh yeah, boxer and a staffy.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
That's interesting.

Speaker 23 (46:35):
Yeah, so yeah it is.

Speaker 12 (46:37):
It is expensive, so we have a budget for her
for her food and because.

Speaker 23 (46:42):
Of the car the breed that she is, her skin
is quite sensitive, so she needs injections come spring. She
needs injections to manage her skin and special diet. Yeah,
so I would Yeah, extensive, but I wouldn't change anything.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
About right a big What about thirty forty.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
City. It's a lot of muscle on those sort of dogs. Yeah,
because I'm running it. I'm running it. I'm running it.
I'm running a nine kg dog a lot easier to feed.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
It's not the same feeding costs.

Speaker 12 (47:17):
But they come with bone issues because of the wet
and the size. They come with you know, bone issues,
ligament issues, and then this particular one comes with skin
issues as well.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, so what do you say to people that's well,
a lot of people saying we don't have to spend
that much on dogs because I guess in the old days,
people go, if your dog's got skin isshoes, then that's
the dog's problem. Do you think we care too much
about our dogs now and we're too focused on them
and as a result, they cost a lot more And
also we get preyed upon by you know, the you know,

(47:50):
the pit industrial complex because they know how much we
love our dogs, so they'll charge a lot for everything,
much like they charge a lot for anything to do.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
With a wedding.

Speaker 12 (47:58):
Yeah, so you have to go into those decisions with
you know, full disclosure first of all, and you have
to be able to afford them. And if you have
rescued a pet, that's it, right, So you've rescued them
for a reason because you want to give them a
great life. So you can't be complacent about how you're
going to treat your pet. Exactly what you what you

(48:20):
do for your children. So if you're going to say
this is my child, I have to grown adult children.
So that's they're they're not an issue anymore. But if
you think if you're getting a pet because you they
are your child, you have to treat them like your child.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
If you rescue a dog, then that is a obligation.
It's always an obligation to treat a pet. Well, yes,
but you've rescued it for a reason, right, because you
want to you want to help it out. What's the
name of your box of Steffie cross Bred?

Speaker 6 (48:50):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Cora Cora Cora, lovely beautiful name. And thanks for calling.
And do you sound like a great pet owner?

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Yeah, just on the amount we spit spence. There was
a story that came out last year, so in twenty
twenty five, Key, we spent one point eight billion dollars
on their pets. The previous year eight hundred million, So
that is that's almost a double increase in the space
of twelve months. So you're right. I think there's a
lot in that. The amount of marketing and things been
targeted to a lot of people. Maybe that's part of

(49:20):
the problem. And then these dog ice cream Now, for
Godden's sake, I've bought it.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
I've thought about have you. Yeah, there was someone that
was trying to sell paws which was like like water
for dogs. It's like so instead of just from the tap,
you were supposed to be buying special water in a
cast to give to your dog. A dog doesn't need that.
They snuff each other's butts.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Yeah, where are we suckers when it comes to what
we spend on our pets? And if you've got a
rescue dog, how has.

Speaker 4 (49:49):
Your experience been? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
number to call it's twenty bus.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Two matd Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Twenty two past two. If you got a rescue dog.
How's the experience been? How are you?

Speaker 6 (50:06):
Barbara?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Nice to check my topic?

Speaker 6 (50:10):
One of my favorite topics is there's talking about rescue dogs.
I rescued a dog from the Silly Pound. She'd been
bounds as straight on Christmas Eve. Some of them chapter
out and I'm picking they chapter out of her area
where she lived, because she's very good at finding her

(50:30):
way home.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
You know, that's funny we go. It's funny how we go.

Speaker 24 (50:33):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
But then again, the dog doesn't know it's Christmas. But
so it's said any day that it kind of.

Speaker 6 (50:39):
You know, it enlarges the violin somewhat.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
Now I'm on Super. I don't have any other income,
just Super. So I had to be really careful and
I made sure that each fortnight I put some money
aside into a separate, you know, separate account, so that
that would help cover any.

Speaker 7 (50:56):
Vetdils that might crop up.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Of course, she developed allergies, which my previous dog had
had as well. So the Applecorel pills for that, I
think they're about nine dollars each and so but I
did a bit of research, went online and you can
buy them online with a prescription from your vet and
lots of vet's now very happy to give you a
prescription for online ordering of you know, meditation, and the

(51:20):
costs down to three dollars a pill. Big difference.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Yeah, so I must, I must. What kind of dog
you've got, Barbara.

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Oh, she was a little brindle Steffie cross. She was
cross with But yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Just there seems to be a lot of stuffy and
resky dogs Steffie just all over the place. It's always
something in steady.

Speaker 6 (51:41):
I think they said that because some people get put
off if you say football. Ah no, that's just a
bit of a theory of mine. So stuffy sounds a
bit more.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
When she had the football for my great granddaughter and
she put it on her bed in the garden, she
had the biggest pitball smile on her face.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
Cute but good and Barbara, sorry, what's the name of
your dog's sorry?

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Tia, Tia?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
And good temperament, oh absolutely with people.

Speaker 6 (52:15):
Perfect. She was very over excited when she saw other dogs.
She didn't know how to approach them, so I had
to keep her on leash because she'd get over excited.

Speaker 21 (52:24):
And just.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
Tia no longer with us, Barbara.

Speaker 6 (52:28):
Oh, don't start me.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Yes, in January, I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
I deliberately got a senior dog because they're the ones
that people don't want you, and I thought i'd have
it for five years, but sad and she she developed cancer,
so we only had three years together.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
But she was just you're a.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Very good person, Barbara. Are you going to go again
and get another dog?

Speaker 6 (52:50):
I will do. At the moment, I'm dealing with my
father who's not very well, so I've got to deal
with that first, but yes, definitely, I want to get
another senior dog. They're just so but.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
That's heartbreaking, right, So you get a senior dog, you
and bless you forgetting a senior dog because, as you say,
people don't want But that's a heartbreaker, isn't it. So
you fall in love with them and then they go yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Yeah, But she this one, she knew the minute we
got her into the car. She knew. You could tell.
She was sitting there staring at the back windows. It
said I'm never coming back here.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 6 (53:24):
We got home and they say it could take a
few weeks to say she was at home the minute
she walked through.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
The front gate, like so doubt so, right. The reward
you get from from adopting a senior dog, and you
know the time is not going to be that long,
and you hope it's longer, but the rewards you get,
holy moly. I mean that the senior we had, she
she knew she was onto a good thing, and we
treated her like a princess. But man, she had a
good life.

Speaker 6 (53:48):
Can I so quickly they know her to ernest?

Speaker 7 (53:53):
She would?

Speaker 6 (53:54):
She knew. One of the things I tried to sort
was barking. Shouldn't back a lot, but if people are
walking past them. Wanted to be able to.

Speaker 7 (54:00):
Just look at them and not back. But she only
did it if there was a.

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Dog with them, And so I was training if she came.
If I called her and she came to me at
the house, I give her a treat and she said, Aha.
Didn't take her long to realize. You walk outside, go
whilst they walk back here and stead, I'll be look,
I'm a good girl.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
A tree was just incredible.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
But one thing I do want to say this is
a moan about an insurance company for pets who advertise
that if you don't ensure your pets, you are irresponsible.
And they would not ensure my pet because she was
older than five years and five months old. Now calling
me irresponsible. I've actually rung them twice. I'm not going

(54:41):
to name them, but yeah, I think that that's not
very kind.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Yeah, and now, Barbara, Yeah, for another dog, can I
suggest an expensive designer Oh?

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Never, never, I don't want to design a dog.

Speaker 3 (54:58):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 6 (54:59):
It's like ten dollar's box. You'll get this little delight
and you open it up and gradually you supot new
things all the time. You get designer dog. Oh yeah,
it's going to do this, it's going to do that
for and I've got a paper grooming every two weeks.

Speaker 4 (55:10):
No, all right, all right, Well you're a good person, Barbara,
Thank you so much for calling. Yeah, what a great goal,
not only getting rescue dogs, but getting senior rescue dogs
because you know that other people with big hearts that
want to get rescue dogs also want to have a
little pup that they can have for life.

Speaker 17 (55:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
What a great person, Barbara, Thank you very much for
your call. So, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you've got a rescue dog, what was that experience like?
And are we spending too much on our pets? It
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Speaker 3 (57:04):
Thank you very much, Raylean. It is twenty nine to
two three and we're talking about risky dogs. This is
on the back of the SPCA saying that adoption levels
have dropped. However, I'll just say we got into touch
with the SBCA. Unfortunately they couldn't put anyone up to
have a chat with us, but I'll just read out
what they did come back with. We think it is
important to note for this that we've had less animals
coming through our centers as well, which we hope is

(57:26):
due to the d sxing work we've been doing across
communities in New Zealand, so that plays are a part
of it as well. They weren't sure whether that was
in the original story. But if you had to have
adopted a rescue dog, what was that experience like for you?
It can be a bit of a roll of the dice.
So eight hundred and eighty ten eighties a number to call.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
Hey, this is what you're saying from josh my non
rescue staffy Tama well down a rabbit carcass before he
even looks at his kibble with Jimbo's meat. That's interesting
because I've got a mate and he had a lot
of rabbits around, and his dogs would run off and
eat the rabbits. But they eventually found out that rabbits
are so pathetic because they breed so quickly that they

(58:03):
not even they don't provide enough substance subsistance on their
own right, like a dog can't live on rabbit alone.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Interesting. Yeah, so it's just I mean, it's just gristlin.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
And yeah, I guess because they breed so quickly, rabbits,
they're not made as of as substantive, substantative stuff as
say a sheep or a or any kind of cattle.
But i'd i'd love to hear if that's true. One
hundred and eighteen eighty. If you've tried to just have
your dog live off rabbit rabbit that it catches.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, two is the text Mary, You've got to rescue
dog from afar.

Speaker 25 (58:39):
Yes, well, I've got.

Speaker 26 (58:40):
The first one I got was a little whipp across
from the dog shelter in christ Church, and I love
her dearly, and I think she's got a really strange habit.
I rang Mark Vida about it when we were on
the phone one day, and she when I she sweeps
in a dog crate and that's her safe place, and
that's where she he'd just get scared. And when I

(59:02):
go to change your paper, if she's had an accent
into what either, she'll come up to me and she'll
put her nose right on my eye lashes one side,
and then she'll go over to the other side and
do the same thing. And it's the weirdest thing. I've
been around for, you know, around dogs for years and
years and years, and I've never had one like that.
And I just love you to death. And the other one,

(59:25):
he was advertised on one of those Facebook things or whatever,
and it was a head on shot of him and
it was like the story. All you could see most basically,
was his white face and nothing else. And I had
it's just ahead of for a while, and then I
thought to myself, this particular night, you're getting a bit

(59:48):
fat girl. And one night between six and nine she
had six little.

Speaker 15 (59:53):
Puppies, right, and.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Puppies in your belly.

Speaker 26 (59:59):
One night, I head whatever, I get it right yet,
And I had eight dogs. Look, I had two dogs
and then and then I had I had the eight
of them and the only one person, the only one
person out of I was willing to let one go

(01:00:22):
to because like the way that you know, the other
two were with dogs and dog watching, christ took took
the other four. And in the one that was advertised
on Facebook, he was he was he came from Kai
Taya right down to christ Church and he came new
to the vaccinated and everything, and he was. He was

(01:00:46):
advertised there's a Wivet cross and he's no more Wivet
cross than I ad he's he's an absolute idiot, but
I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't change him for anything.
But he's not happy until he's got something in his mouth.
It hasn't made it what it is. If it's just
a piece of past anything, he'll just get it. And
he runs around around and he's a greyhound cross with

(01:01:08):
something and can move right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
So how many dogs are you running at the moment, Mary,
Two to right? That's manageable.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
Yeah, yeah, Eight is doctor Dolittle situation, but two is okay?

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Isn't it funny? With dogs? We're like the dog's an idiot.
It's ugly everything. You know, we walk around abusing our dogs,
but we love them. You're a moron.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
You're an absolute look at you, your little pumpkinhead.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Or you're ridiculous creature, you absolute moron, reliever.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
We love them, they don't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
They don't have to be good looking or smart for
us to love them exactly. A listen to this text
could be controversial. I read it out please, Okay? How
depressing all these people that go I don't want kids,
I want to travel, I want to own nice things.
I want a career. But that doesn't change the human heart.
We need something to love and care for. So they

(01:02:02):
get a dog to obsess over instead of a child.
But the dog only lives fifteen years and doesn't create grandchildren,
doesn't visit them in their old age, doesn't visit them
in the old person's home. So all the heart, but
none of the human support. But hey, you got to travel,
you got a nice car and a nice career. Sad,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Oh man, that's a journey. I need to mull on
that because that is deep. There will a lot of people.
I just I need some time to process that one.
There's a lot to chew through there. Yeah, yeah, let's
everythink about that. I mean, if you want to respond
by all means nine two nine two, it is twenty
three to three.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
They'd be twenty one to three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
I've had some time to mullet over, and I still
need more time. But I'll tell you what. That text
you read out has certainly got other listeners fired up. Yeah,
like this text, So that's not entirely correct.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Once grandchildren get to teenage years onwards, they will not
be visiting grandparents every weekend or even step into the
rest home long. Yeah, that's good point. Although my son's
are visiting my dad at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Yep, you've brought up over the weekend. Very good sons.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah, my dad's fun to hang out with you A
good guy? Can a great guy?

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Can we hear that text one more time?

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
The text? Yeah, controversial text, controversial texts. I just want
to hear it one more time. Okay, I'll just have
to find how depressing all these people that go I
don't want kids, I want to travel I want to
own nice things, I want a career, but that doesn't
change the human heart. We need something to love and
care for. So they get a dog to obsess over.

(01:03:43):
But the dog only lives fifteen years at best and
doesn't create grandchildren, doesn't visit you in the old person's home.
So all the heart, but none of the human support
and old age. But hey, you got to travel, you
got a nice car, you've got a career.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
Sad, isn't it how uplifting? Thank you very much for
that text, and good to hear it again. All right,
the responses are still coming through, but let's heart to Jenny.
Get a Jenny afternoon.

Speaker 21 (01:04:11):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Now you've got an insurance story.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Yes I have.

Speaker 21 (01:04:15):
Actually, we had a dog when we were in Omoru
and she we went visiting. She escaped out the door
and got run over by the by a car. The
lady come in felt said, I think I've killed your dog.
She must have just sort of knocked her silly, and
the dog came running in the door. But there was
quite a bit of damage to this lady's car, and

(01:04:37):
I rang my insurance company and my dog was covered
by my contents.

Speaker 4 (01:04:43):
Your dog was covered by your contents.

Speaker 21 (01:04:46):
And contents my household and content. We had to pay
for this car, and I rang State insurance because we
had to get, you know, to organize the car to
be fixed. And they said, no, she it's covered through
your contents insurance.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Wow, there must be rare your policy, must I.

Speaker 21 (01:05:02):
Actually rang them four times to make sure that that
was correct because I didn't think. But and on the
story of the rescue dogs, you couldn't do better. I'm
involved with a lady who's got a rescue dog, and
she is so loyal. She sits at that door, and
then at you walk in that house, she wriggles and
she just absolutely palls all this leve all over you.

(01:05:25):
So they're the best sort of dogs to get. My
dad worked in the pound in the early years and
at the gas works, so that's how we got our
first pets because Dad couldn't bear to have them put down,
so quite often we Dad would come home with a
new dog from the gas works and got a beautiful
Cocker Spaniel. Goldie was rescued from the gas works.

Speaker 17 (01:05:48):
So it was utterly awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Just to go back the step, Genny, what do you
mean the gas.

Speaker 21 (01:05:53):
Works, well years ago like this was when I was
in my teenager, so about forty years ago, when the
dogs went into the pound, when they were taken running free,
then they were taken by the dog control and taken
to the gasworks and they were guessed.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:06:12):
So there was just these big cages outside with all
these poor wee dogs, and my father used to bring
them home.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
I didn't need to know about. That's interesting. I did
not know that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Yes, saving from the guess works amazing. Now how do
they put them down? I think just a nice injection.
I guess the gas would be you just breathe it
in and then you pass.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I mean there's an addiction or a gas or It's
all pretty fast, isn't it. I mean, I mean you're
no longer here one way or the other.

Speaker 4 (01:06:44):
Yeah, I mean the old way was the shotgun shotgun
around the back of the barn. But it's right, that's
not really a thing anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Plenty of ticks has coming through. Hey, if you want
to talk about the guessworks by all means one hundred
eighty ten eighty, but plenty of tecks coming through about rescues.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
This person's having thrown a bit of shade at the ESPCIA.
The reason the SPCIA has have taken less animals and
it is because they choose to say no almost always
and rely on the unfunded small rescues to do the mate,
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Yeah, if you've got some knowledge there.

Speaker 4 (01:07:19):
This is interesting. So so you know my mate whose
dog was trying to live off rabbits and there wasn't enough,
but a lot of people texting through there's enough and possums. Right,
But maybe this is because, as the six is Ofugh
new leads, it's because rabbits are a lean meat dog
need fat in their diet as well.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
That it makes sense. Yeah, thanks for that, Matt. Dogs
love it, but of fat, no doubt about it. One
hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call
have a chat with neck. You've had resky dogs all
your life.

Speaker 19 (01:07:47):
Yeah, I'm sitting in the late sixties now. I'm the
maybe dog on that head. I'll usually have them in
pairs because I always believe the dog needs a companion
or a company and someone to you who and chase
a stick with and tug of war and all that
sort of thing. So yeah, we've been just sort of
in the later years recent years, I've got to see
your dog because you don't want to mess about the

(01:08:08):
puppies when you're in your sixties. I have enough keeping
up with yourself. But you know, you have so many
points I wanted to talk about. But I mean, we've
got Shady in the backs. She's fifteen, and I've got Bob,
I've had him since he was eighteen months.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
You have, you've got a but a space for the
dogs to run around.

Speaker 19 (01:08:27):
Actually know, we live in a caravan, so they've got
the whole country around.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
And they don't run off, they come back to the caravan.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
No.

Speaker 19 (01:08:34):
And this is because if you talk to a dog
and you treat the dog nicely, and you don't raise
your voice and yell at the dog, and when you
do eventually get your dog on the lead, shout at
it and smack at it because it's finally come to lead.

Speaker 14 (01:08:48):
Because the dog.

Speaker 19 (01:08:49):
Next time, thanks, Well, I'm not coming to you. If
you if you want your dog to be with you
and respond to you and come to you, you have
to want the dog to want to be with you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Right and then and then then it becomes and.

Speaker 19 (01:09:06):
Then yeah, when you call your doll, you go, oh,
Dad's called him. See what dad once, whereas other old
shoot them, We'll go next to him. He's going to
hit me again, do you know what I mean? So yeah,
But as for people, they don't want kids to rather
have a dog because they're going to miss out on
all the loneliness. Utter and I can't spare on here,
but just think of the word rolts when you're rowing

(01:09:27):
a boat. It's sort of rhymes were that we've got
two because my wife's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
I'm a slow give me that again. That that rhyme again,
rhymes of polics. You you can say bolls.

Speaker 19 (01:09:43):
In the last few months, my wife's gone into a restaurant,
and I don't think the kids know how to deal
with it. They're in the thirties, one of them is married,
and the other one's mucking about doing his own thing.
They've had nothing to do with my life for months,
and she's an arrest and I don't even come to
see it. So all I'm saying is, you know this,
if you're very lucky, your kids will come and see you.

(01:10:04):
But half the time the two playing and busy, wrapped
up in their own world to even think about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Good point.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Yeah, I sound like a great, great dog owner.

Speaker 19 (01:10:13):
Neck and The other thing to consider when you're going
by dog food. Just consider this, what you're reading on
the packet. Do you think the dog can read it?
When you when you see the packaging. And I've picked
up on this years ago, and you will often see
package you know, prime and guaranteed and and all of

(01:10:38):
that is for the humans fall for and by. Dogs
will be quite out of you with a monkey rotten
chop and a pile of urine soak horse craps are rolling.

Speaker 3 (01:10:46):
All right, I'll put that on the menu tonight for Pebble.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
If you're listening, Colin, you'rein soaked horse meat coming out. Carlton,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 13 (01:10:56):
Hi.

Speaker 15 (01:10:56):
The rabbit story taken in context, it was North American
food treasures and all they were eating was the actual webbon,
so no plant by food at all, and that's what
killed them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Ah okay, So they needed a bit of carbs in
there somewhere.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
But of bit of mineral sort of a scurvy situation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
That's a perfect dogs can you get scovy? Well, they're omnivores,
aren't they.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Dogs?

Speaker 15 (01:11:31):
Was you just needed and sea on the ships because
they were stuck in the middle of nowhere. Food trappers
were stuck in the middle of nowhere. The rabbit was great.
It made them feel full, but it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Didn't give them thanks to cool Carlton.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Yeah, good to clarify that, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
Dogs are omnivores, aren't they. Well they're they're like meat eating,
but but through domestification they they they can digest plant
matter as well. Yeah, so most of you your biki's
that you give them or whatever, there's going to be
a bit of in there.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Yeah. One eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you've had a rescue dog. What was your experience like?
And also, are we spending too much on our dog's
nine two nine two, it's eleven or three?

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way mad Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
Newstorg ZB it is eight minutes to three. Gett a Morris.

Speaker 15 (01:12:31):
Yeah, Hi guys, how are you going?

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
Very well? What's your story?

Speaker 15 (01:12:35):
Good? My son went to pick up a coffee table
which he source on Facebook and he went to a
rural property just north of Auckland Sea and there it
was down a long driveway coming on dark there was
a great, big menacing guard dog at the gate. The
owner said, it's all right, coming and he spent five
minutes looking at the coffee table effect and fifteen minutes

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pecking the dog and playing with the dog. As he
was leaving, the owner said, you don't want to take
the dog with you as well, do you? And this
is this is an FAF dog South Auckland special.

Speaker 17 (01:13:15):
It's.

Speaker 15 (01:13:17):
And so my son sent me some photographs of the dog.
We'd had two labradors in succession over the last twenty years,
and I said, a dog got good. So the owner
brought him down and the dog interviewed us and decided
we were suitable. So we ended up with a dog.
The alternative was the guy was going to take him

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to the pound at the end of the week, that
my son went to see him and take the dog
to the pound, and or.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
And the dogs and the dogs of a good temperament.
Your sons enjoyed the.

Speaker 15 (01:13:50):
Dog six years old.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Oh no ah, we just lost year. Oh that's unfortunate
because I wanted to hear about this coffee table as well.
That is a good story. You get a dog in
a coffee table. Thank you very much. Morris.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
The six of his lads. As I always say, dogs
don't do eulogies.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Gary, step it's.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Gary, Matt and Tyler. I've had many rescue dogs and
cats in my life, and I truly believe that they
understand and appreciate what you've done. Sisss text and my
current rescue dog is eleven years old now and she is,
by father, the smartest, sweetest dog ever. I rescued her
and the other pups to save them from being killed
by the owner of the mother dog.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
I see.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
We went overnight from having one elderly thirteen year old
dog to having eight rescued six week old puppies.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
Puppies.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
Wow, it was absolute bedlam, but absolutely worth it. We
homed all the puppies except for my gorgeous girl. And yes,
I'll do it again. Regards Linda well great. Lastly, yeah,
I just tend to text you about the subject. Once
upon a time. I own five dogs. Now I have none.
For a really good reason, I wanted to travel, well
I can. I have no children, so I could be

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in the selfish group. By the way, I get my
dose of dog on a daily basis as I am
a dog groomer from Raywan.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Nice that is a good balance.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yeah, but those dogs come and go they do. Yeah, exactly,
They're just like ships in the night. They come through
you groom them the only I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Really like it, and go on.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
The SBCIA doesn't even release all the Euthanasian numbers each year,
yet bleat on about every other animal organization's transparency.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
All right, a few shots fired at the SBCA.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
Blue juice injection has replaced the gas works. Still plenty
of dogs in in their days with the rifle behind
the shed though. Okay, yeah, I'm sure in rural New
Zealand that's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:28):
Probably the case. Right, One hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. We'll go to Tanya before
were the news hits us? Tanyayay, We've got a couple
of minutes.

Speaker 24 (01:15:39):
Hi, I just want to talk about my rescue cat.
So I got her in twenty twenty. So she's a
COVID baby and she was rescued from the side of
the road, had only about three weeks old, and she
was on Facebook through the rescue organization and asking for donations.
She had one eye which was already blowing from kat flow,
and the other eye was needed. A lot of tensions,

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so I used to donate money towards her kir and
then about six months old, five or six months old,
it came time for her for her home, and I thought, hm,
why not, so I applied and I got this gorgeous
little black and white now blind cat, and she's blind.

Speaker 7 (01:16:17):
From cats flu.

Speaker 24 (01:16:18):
So this is why it's so important that cat flu
is treated.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
And was it like having a blind cat? She does
it right, She was all right.

Speaker 24 (01:16:26):
It's very interesting because I had had my home checked
and everything first, and a lot of homework done because
you're not allowed to have a messy house to have
to leave stuff in the same place, so I kind
of rearrange anything, but otherwise she just runs into it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
So she's great.

Speaker 24 (01:16:42):
She started out on a lead, and then in our
old property she actually just has to go outside, but
we would always go with her to make sure that
she was safe. So she's had wonderful time outside. And
we've just moved moved house in January and she's adapted
to the new place perfectly. She has stairs and the
balcony and all sorts.

Speaker 4 (01:17:03):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
You'd saved the blind cats and that is beautiful, Dave.

Speaker 4 (01:17:07):
Something a dog is the most loyal friend you will
ever have. They send your moods, comfort when you are low,
and always there when things don't go right. They become
your best friend, and they ask for absolutely nothing in return.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
That is poetry. Dave and Well says thank you to
everyone who gave us a buzz, and she'd just story
about rescue doors coming up after three o'clock. Tribute Acts,
Are they really worth it? Tell us your story about
one hundred and eighty ten eighty, the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Talk said, be very good afternoon. You welcome back into
the program seven pass three, so let's have a chat
about tribute acts. This is after a Pink Floyd Tribute
Act has been forced to cancel a scheduled show in
Napier at the last minute after receiving a cease and
desist order the rights holders of the original band, The
Pink Floyd Experiences it was blind sided rather by the

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legal action, which effectively shut down the performance despite the
tour already being underway. Fans have been left disappointed. Organizers
are now working through refunds and the situation highlights the
strict controls around licensing and intellectual property. But when it
comes to performing the music of major international acts aka
a tribute act, is it really worth paying money for them?

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
What have you to go?

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
It's tribute acts.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
I haven't seen one tribute act that I actually really enjoyed.
I've seen a tribute act for Fleetwood Mac.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Yeah, that's hard though, because those harmonies are very, very
difficult to do. Even when Neil Finn was stepping in
for Lindsay Buckingham that you couldn't quite get those harmonies.
They're incredibly precise harmonies. And that's always whenever I see
anyone cover Fleetwood Mac at all. It's so hard to
get that right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Yeah. I just thought they really butchered it. They tried
their best. I'm just trying to think of another tribute actor.
Oh I saw someone impersonating Dave Dobbin. You could call
that a tribute at.

Speaker 4 (01:19:12):
I thought that was you know, well, you go and
see the real Dave Dobbin a lot easier you used
to anyway. Yeah, and what's the music name? Because the
best ac DC tribute bands called A B C D
not bad. So you've got to have a really good name,
and as I was saying to you before, Tyler, I
saw beyond again once they were really good. And the
Pink Floyd Experience is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Had I've heard people talk that up. Actually, the Pink
Floyd Experience in New Zealand is one of the better
tribute xs when it comes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
For the Pink Floyd Experience. Is that they called the
Pink Floyd Experience, which is very clearly saying that they're
Pink Floyd. Because there's quite a famous English Oasis tribute
band called Oas isn't It's close but it's a change, yes, yeah,
And in New Zealand there's a there's a Split Ends

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tribute band called Split Friends, so you're changing changing the
name a little bit. There's Fred Zeppelin. But but the Pink
Floyd Experience are just the Pink Floyd Experience. Yeah, So
is that that that the problem?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
I would say it is different. If the particular band
members or key band members are no longer with us anymore,
then like fair cop, because you've got to have you
can't bring them back from the dead. But if they're
still actually alive and kicking having a tribute act, I
just don't see the point.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
Yeah, but mate, they're not gonna you know, lead Zeppelin.
Most of them are still here, well half of them,
so not most of them, A good chunk a good
percentage that they're not touring. So and they might not
be touring your your country, you know. I think there
was a Smith's tribute act that was at the power
station recently.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
I think one of our own new Stalks are B
members was very talking of about that. But what do
you say, Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
a number to call Aaron.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Welcome to the show. Your thoughts on this? Oh what's that?

Speaker 17 (01:21:02):
I've never heard of freed Zeppelin?

Speaker 19 (01:21:05):
Yeah, it's good, Oh, brilliant to that.

Speaker 27 (01:21:09):
In regards to Beyond Again, they're not not what I
ranging to talk about. But Beyond Again are actually endorsed
by ABBA. And when when ABBA was going to all
back together, go goe off for a billion US dollars
to get back together, well and it was it was
Abba themselves that said, no, we're even enough money off
Beyond Again not to have to work. So so, but

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what I was getting, well, what I wanted to ask
the question of you followers, incredible musicians wonderful people, et cetera.
What about Dragon and what about Hollow Sailor not a
single original member? Now, look, Mark Williams has probably been
been there a lot longer than the length of Mark Hunter.

Speaker 14 (01:21:47):
But what do you guys.

Speaker 28 (01:21:49):
Feel about that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Well, to be fair, I'm the one saying I don't
think it's worth the money. But you've got me there
that if Hellow Sailor has had at a bunch of
different members and now the Hallow Sailor band has none
of the originals, is that still the same thing? I
think there's a transition period though, that is crossover. You
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 27 (01:22:07):
Eric, Yeah, I get that, I get that, but I
mean yeah, I mean even the Dragon boys and things.
I think Todd was the last original member and unfortunately
he's a little bit too. But but yeah, I know,
it's just one of those conundrums. You go, I what
am I painful?

Speaker 4 (01:22:21):
There was there was the there's the famous story of
you know the Zombies, that UK British band. They had
the hits she's not there in time of the season
and tell her no and such and in America, because
back in the nineteen sixties it was the wild West,
and so these American promoters just put the Zombies on
tour throughout the America and no one knew. No one

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knew that that wasn't the zombies that were touring because
people didn't really know what they looked like. They looked
close enough, they had mop tops whatever. Yep, they send
them out and guess and guess what that band? Guess
what one of the zombies tribute bands that were traveling
around pretending to be the Zombies, not a tribute band,
but just saying they were zombies. Guess what they who?
They ended up being.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Zz Top No kidding, That is a great story.

Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
That's how zezy Top started. They were a fake zombies touring.

Speaker 27 (01:23:07):
Just from you reminded me of something just seeing Tallas.
A Little River Band was by an American and you know,
basically is a cover tribute act, but has the rights
to bom Sound Little River Band because the lead singer
bought the rights to all their back album. We were
we were to the Cidyanger, you know, the summer festival

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thing when l RB were playing, and my brother was
just getting right into it and said, you know, there's
not a single member on that stage that's original and
that fella singing bought all the rights and he got
bummed out pretty quick.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
All right, So so Lennard uh Leonard Skinner. They're also
touring with no original members, aren't they.

Speaker 3 (01:23:47):
Mm hmmm, So we do we end up?

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
See, so Sublime, I think they're coming to the country
very soon, right with the singer died before their big
album came out.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
I know, and it's his son. I believe who's who's
now singing? I look, part of me loves that, but
it is not the real Sublime. And I may still go,
but I will know that effectively to me, even though
he's the one of the lead singer, that is effectively
a tribute act? Am I wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
Eron?

Speaker 27 (01:24:13):
No, You're not wrong. It is effectively is a tribute act.
And I don't know where you end up. You know,
it's sort of where we it's it's the original members
are still alive and you're covering the music your tribute
act original members have passed away covering now back album?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
What are you?

Speaker 11 (01:24:33):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
You've got this interesting situation now where you have you
be forty, so you be forty a Torment touring without
Ali Campbell. But then you can see this multiple ub
forties out there, see but you to forty. That's everyone
apart from Ali Campbell. And you can also go and
see you you be forty with Ali Campbell.

Speaker 17 (01:24:48):
Yeah, this is the thing.

Speaker 27 (01:24:50):
I'd only go to see you be forty with Ali
Campbell because his brother, what's his brother's name, Carmen Campbell,
Rob Campbell.

Speaker 28 (01:24:58):
Here's the other one with.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
That other Matt Campbell, some kind of Campbell h Bady
Campbell Campbell.

Speaker 27 (01:25:04):
But they had to they had a complete split, what
two decades ago, and they're both still arguing a court
who actually owns the rights to the name? Ye be
forty and you're still both stirring with that name.

Speaker 4 (01:25:15):
Yeah, thanks for you call Aaron. There was a Beatles
tribute band that just toured New Zealand recently. I saw
advertisings for them, So if anyone saw them, I'd like
to see because you know, that's an example the Beatles
ain't going to get back together. You've only got you've
only got Paul and Ringo left. Yeah, so the bootleg
bootleg Beatles something like that that rings a bell.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah, not a bad name. What do you say though?
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty A tribute acts worth
the money? And who's the best tribute act that you've seen?
It as fourteen past three, bag very shortly news talk'd
be seventeen pass three. We're talking about tribute acts? Are
they really worth the money? This is after the Pink
Floyd Experience was sent to cease and desist letter from
the band's estate saying you can no longer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Perform and side issue bands that don't have all the
original members. I think it's difficult if you don't have
the singer. Yeah, although recently the record at Spackarina for
attendance was was was broken by Lincoln Park. And of
course this singer tragically took his own life a while back,

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and so they've replaced him with a woman, Emily Armstrong,
and people seem to love it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
The fans loved it. Yeah, if they sold out sold
out the thing? I mean, does that say at all?

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
And I went to see Splons the other day, right,
that was fantastic, But Matt Eckles on drums and James
Milner on bass not the original So Nigel Gregg's of course,
Actually Paul Hester is a similar situation, isn't he is
the singer from Lincoln Park. Yeah, but yeah, I mean,
how many original members do you need in a band
before it becomes you know, if they're all gone, then

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that becomes a tribute act, just with the rights to
the real name.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
It's a great question. Oh one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number it called get a nil?

Speaker 19 (01:26:57):
Yeah, how are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Mates? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 9 (01:27:00):
Well, just answer you one of your questions. You had
the other bands worth it a year. We paid about
four times more to go and see the Eagles live.
Then you see a tribute band here in New Zealand
and we had to go to a city to see it,
so that that probably answers that a little bit. Pink
Floyd Experience is quite sad to hear what you said.
We just flun back into the country. And one of

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the reasons I was but said, I thought I was
going to miss them in Hamilton. I don't know if
they came to Hamilton or not. I haven't heard that
part yet. But Pink Floyd Experiences rated one of the
second best tribute band of Pink Floyd in the world,
behind Britt Floyd.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Yeah, Britt Forard, They're I was just looking the top
ten earning tribute bands in the world, and Brick Floyd
one of them.

Speaker 9 (01:27:44):
Well, yeah, they're very very good. Again, David gilm was
the only one still doing anything out there really, But
that said Pink Floyd experience, and I'm a bit picky
about this, they're very good. They're very very good. You know,
some of that stuff is so hard to duplicate, and
they do it extremely well. And that's not just vocals
and music, it's that's the lighting and everything. So I

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believe I can't remember my last pay here in Hamilton,
but we're probably up around one hundred and fifteen out
to go and see them. And I saw Pink Floyd
several years ago here and it was about that then,
probably at twenty five thirty years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
That was the original Pink Floyd though, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
well I did hear that?

Speaker 17 (01:28:26):
Okay, okay, no, no, not at all.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
It was without Roger Water, Yeah, Roger Waters.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
I mean, if you're trying to do Pink Floyd, you
have to absolutely nail every part of it because the
guitar parts are so distinctive. Everyone there knows exactly the
next note that's going to be played and exactly how
it's played and if you don't get that right then
so to be a Pink Floyd, really quality Pink Floyd

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tribute band, you have to be incredible musicians right now.

Speaker 9 (01:28:57):
Absolutely, And this is why I've seen several Pink Floyd
tribute bands and I can't comment on the others because
they do their best. But these guys employed experience of
New Zeum pretty damn close. Yeah, And if you're going
to listen to the tune, go away and listen to
them both playing together. There is a little bit of difference, yes,
there is, but when you're sitting in the thing, it's

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also about the memory of the song you heard forty
years ago, you know, so that all comes flooding back
as well at the same time. So, yeah, but it's
sad to hear that they are seasoned assist I often
wondered how they might go about royalties when they do
what they do, so you probably answered that, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Well, I guess you know, when you perform live, you're
supposed to put in a set list to opera and
the sad amount of money's supposed to go, you know,
song royalties. Performance royalties are supposed to go to the band.
It kids pretty complicated. But I'm just thinking about the
guitar solo from Comfortably Numb and just what a guitar
solo that is. But every bend we know every bend

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and you just be sitting watch and it's such a
high degree of complexity for Gilmore when he when he
played it, But that's within his own style, and every
guitarist haves their own style and their own go to
sort of signature les and such. So to actually learn
it and nail the comfortably lung guitar solo, then you're
a musician operating at a high level.

Speaker 9 (01:30:21):
Well again, in the playing coming Home, I watched the
Luck and Strange, which is his latest one, and he
plays comfortably in him, and he adds a little bit
extra in or takes away a few things his voice
is and what it used to be, and the vocalists
do that as well, so each time he plays it
is a little bit of a twist to it as well.
So you know, and that's the part I do like.
I quite like listening to that. But again, you know, Kroake,

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you can't. I really am focusing on Pink Floyd experience
because that's what you originally brought up but they are good.
They are really good, and I'm quite happy to pay
what they charge to come here. They come here every
second hope they used to come to New Zealand every
second year because they're employed around the world doing different gigs.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
Got on your nil, I mean one hundred and fifty
bucks per person. That seems like a lot of money
to me for a bad and that is not Pink Floyd.
But this is where it gets gray that, as you say,
matt If, they are and they are very renowned, and
they are technically sound as musicians, and they put a
lot of effort into the lighting show and all the
other experience that encompasses what we know of Pink Floyd.

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Is that with one hundred and fifty dollars. To me, no,
but to other people they'd say, hell, yes, Well this.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
Is only vaguely related. But the black Strap that David
Gilmore played comfortably numb on, that's just that guitar sold
for fourteen point five million American dollars a couple of
months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
How cool would have been their their guitar. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
our tribute acts worth the money it is twenty three
past three.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Twenty five past three, and we're talking about tribute acts
on the back of Pink Floyd experience in New Zealand
having to cancel shows because they've got a season desisdorder.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
But a tribute act really worth the money? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number? The success
it saw Adam Lambert Queen Tribute was amazing and worth
the money? Was that the Queen tribu. I mean, Adam
Lambert pays with plays with Queen. But you've got Brian
May there and you've got John Taylor and drums. Interestingly,
John Deacon bass player. Apparently it's very close to Freddy Mercury,

(01:32:28):
but he's never wanted to be part of Queen continuing
after Freddy Mercury died. I think he's made a couple
of appearances with them, but he's just been like, it's
not Queen anymore. Yeah, but Brian May and John Taylor
have just kept touring and touring touring. But I saw
them live and Adam Lambert did a great job. He
was fantastic, but they also had the Freddy Mercury appearing

(01:32:50):
on the big screen and stuff, so it was very
much I mean, if you've got Brian May in there,
it depends that the level of you know, Brian May
was so significant to the band. And also John Taylor
wrote numb one hit as well any Radio Gaga, so
it's kind of you can kind of get there.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
You've got the but if you've got a few, we're
going to tell them.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
If you lose them, you know, it would be hard.
Nirvana performed without Kirk Cobaine obviously for obvious reasons. Yes,
but they got who did they get to sing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Paul McCartney? Oh well did Paul McCartney does show with them.
But anyway, like you know, if you've got the principal
creative person and the band and the singer not there, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Tough, isn't it right? Yeah, And someone like Freddy Mercury,
it's a tough sell. Yeah, get a Grego? How are
you very good mate? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 19 (01:33:37):
A many years ago?

Speaker 28 (01:33:37):
We I always lovedly Zeppelin and there's a band that
came to Wellington here at the Opera House called the
Zep Boys ZDP. I'll just I've just looked them up
and they're still going. They're about to do the fortieth year.
Three s Bogans wandered out onto the stage and started
playing when I can't remember what the first song was,
and oh, this sounds good. And then the lead singer

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jumped out and he looked like a giant Mikey heavicon steroids.
What's a string singler on? And he was counting around
the stage.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Sure it was.

Speaker 28 (01:34:10):
A different w No, it definitely wasn't because when he
started singing, mate, oh my goodness, the crowd actually went quiet.
When the fast came out and after the fist song,
you guys can obviously tell we don't look like the Zippling.
We just love the music. Hope we have a good night.
And not only is it one of the best tribute
bands I've been to, it's probably one of the best
concerts I've been to. They were fan tested, so I

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recommend looking up a look up a video later on
and have a listen to these guys. They're still going.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:34:36):
So they did.

Speaker 5 (01:34:37):
So.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
They been lead Zeppelin for forty years. They've been tribute
to zepan forty years. You're beginning pretty good at your Heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Look at the lead singer. He's a bit of a beast.
I mean he definitely pumps a iron.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
I don't know there's a recent there should be gun Zeppelin.

Speaker 12 (01:34:58):
Wow.

Speaker 28 (01:34:58):
Yeah, but it was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
Do you think it's about it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
It's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
It's almost less credibility being a tribute band that dresses
up to look like the band, Like what was that
TV show? Stars in your Tonight, Matthew, I'll be Elton John.
It's almost more credible just to absolutely, you know, bash
out the songs brilliantly than it is to give him costume.

Speaker 28 (01:35:20):
I think that's why he said what he said, because
he didn't want to. We're not the Zeppelin, but we
just love the music. You know, and Mate, you close
your eyes, you'd swear it plants screaming away in front
of you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:31):
Well, that's awesome. Thanks you call Greg. Well this Texas says.
When you're sixty three and go to your local pub
in Brown's Bay and there's a lead Zeppelin tribute act on,
that's Tata's a tiger.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Heaven nicely said.

Speaker 19 (01:35:45):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Keep those ticks coming through tribute acts. Are they worth
the money and who's the best tribute act you've seen?
Tell us your story.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
There's twenty nine past three Pink Floyd experience. Seen them twice.
You guys have missed something special, Graham. Yeah, there's people
just rave about the Pink Floyd experience. So it's a
bummer that they're going through legal situation at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Yep, seems to be. It is bang on past three.
He'd lines coming up.

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co dot ze. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Thank you very much, Railean. We're talking about Tribute X.

Speaker 4 (01:37:36):
Shame on my name, shame on everything that I am.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
You're hurting.

Speaker 4 (01:37:41):
So I referred to the drummer of Queen as John Taylor,
who's of course the bass player from Duran Duran as
John Taylor. But in my defense, and this is why
I got mixed up, is because both Durandran and Queen
had a druma called Roger Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Right there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
So I got confused there, and I was watching this
weird documentary on Drandran and cocaine abuse and the concord,
and so yeah, I had the bass player as cocaine
enthusiast and bass player for rand friend's name and way

(01:38:23):
here John Taylor. Just as an aside, Roger Taylor, Yeah,
apologies to queen fans.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
No, very good, Just as aside. I really want to
watch that documentary. Can you remember the name Goo Duran
Duran documentary Cocaine.

Speaker 4 (01:38:35):
It's quite insane. So Roger Taylor flowing out on the
concord to just hit one gong in New York. Yeah, anyway,
it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Yeah, right, one hundred and eighty ten eighties number to
call get a craig. Guys, how you doing very good?
You're a good man to chat to. You're a former
music promoter. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:38:57):
I spent about twenty years being a music promoter, and
for the first ten or twelve years I used to
do a big outdoor concert in a winery and todo
on that sort of built up once a year to
have eight thousand people over to that by bringing in

(01:39:18):
quality tribute acts, mainly from overseas. And there's two sides.
I commit this from two sides. Part of me is
the purist siders. I like you, Matt. You know I
spent many years in music radio in New Zealand. So
I think, well, only the original is the right thing, right,

(01:39:40):
But when you can put in one night three tribute acts,
So one weekend we did down there. We had Rod Stewart,
the Beatles and Rolling Stones back to back. Is three
tribute acts in one night, and the punters paid I
think eighty bucks each to come to an outdoor concert
and sit with four thousand people. And here all the

(01:40:03):
bangers from those three acts. Now no album tracks, no
b sides, no playing something with a different arrangement. Every
song was notes for the note, the same as what
it was when we first played on the radio when
it was a brand new and that and that's what
the audience want to hear. When how many times have
you gone to a concert lately with an old band

(01:40:26):
who do a different arrangement.

Speaker 4 (01:40:27):
For playing it, or they go they go, now we're
gonna do some of our new stuff.

Speaker 19 (01:40:33):
Yeah or whatever.

Speaker 14 (01:40:36):
Yeah, Because when people go to a tribute, it's a tribute,
it's not it's not an impersonator.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
So with your with your Rolling Stones, I mean that's
a lot to pull off. Are they going for the
was this Rolling Stones that they had was their front
man going for the full Mick Jagger Tina Turner impersonation Not.

Speaker 14 (01:40:51):
Really, no, I mean they you kind of got to
put on a bit of that to to wet to
run the song, right, But he's not impersonating Micky. They
true to the to the songs of those bands and
these guys, especially the ones that sort of two of
the world's from overseas. They have brought all the charts

(01:41:13):
to these songs. Legitimately, they've licensed to play those songs
by the original artists. And of course, as a promoter,
I would still pay all the aprophees that you've already mentioned,
and those apraphees would go to the original artists or
producers or whoever they were. So I think there's a

(01:41:34):
place for tribute acts. And I know you talk about
someone and being really expensive, but that's probably testament to
how costly it is that show on.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
I mean, people forget with the band and you'll know this,
Craig is. People go, oh, I'm only paying for this time,
but you also paying for all the all the time
they spend learning the songs, practicing the signs, all the
gear they have to move around.

Speaker 14 (01:41:54):
There's so much hiring, just hiring a theater and putting
up lighting and sound and stuff. I mean just for
a basic I mean you're going to spend one hundred
k just just on that, you know it about paying
the band, all the costs of touring and all that
sort of stuff. So I mean that's another whole debate,
that whole thing about costs, tickets and things.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
But now, Craig, but when you said that you had
that night there was Rod Stewart, the Beatles and the
Rolling Stones. What names did did they go under? What
was Rod Stewart calling me?

Speaker 29 (01:42:23):
They?

Speaker 14 (01:42:25):
Look, it's a while ago. I can't remember if they
did anything.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Do you think or something?

Speaker 14 (01:42:31):
No, I can't remember what they call themselves. But I
mean I've had the best, Like I brought Ringo start
in New Zealand as well twenty and twenty twelve, right
or twenty thirteen, so with his all star bands, included
all the guys from you like Richard Page from Mister Mister,
and Todd Rundgren was in there, and Steve Piketter from

(01:42:54):
Toto and Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
And I brought these the greatest guitarist all time I know, right.

Speaker 14 (01:42:59):
And yet you could say that was a tribute band.
They all just played all the old songs of those
of those artists right all night. But they went the band.
But they were a tribute band, weren't they, even though
they were the original art of doing the voice. So
you know what's the difference?

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
Yeah, Well, still Steve Lucas has played on so many hats,
hasn't he, So you know he could go around and
play a bunch of Michael Jackson songs that he was
actually the guitarist one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:31):
Beat It, for example. But I get your point about
you know, I saw Don Henley. I would have been
about five or six years ago. And let's be honest,
most people went to Don Henley were there for Eagle songs.
They weren't there for the Boys of Summer, and he
had a lot of Eagle songs in there. But like Disparado,
when that came out, it was some sort of new
formation he had on the piano and there was a

(01:43:51):
little bit of choir background, So it wasn't the same
to what you're saying, as I wanted to hear Desperado
as it was sung on the record.

Speaker 4 (01:43:58):
We just see Bob Dylan, and I don't think Bob
Dylan's even heard his songs. I think he recorded them.
He recorded them way he recorded them once and then
and he's got a very distinct intonation in his voice.
But he wasn't even trying to be anywhere near the
originals totally.

Speaker 14 (01:44:16):
Did you guys go to that last Meatloafs tour when
he came out here? And like, I went to that
gig at the Sparker or Victor Arena in those days.
And you know, I've never seen so many people walk
out of the show because they want to sing. They
want to sing with the artists and sing the songs
the way they know them off the radio. And and
when you do all those arrangements like that, you just can't.

(01:44:39):
And so they it wasn't Meatloafs for them. It wasn't
the Meatloafs music.

Speaker 4 (01:44:45):
Someone's just texted through the Rolling Stones covers bean should
be called the Rolling Clones. Yeah, that's clever, Craig. Are
you still still still promoting?

Speaker 17 (01:44:55):
Doing?

Speaker 14 (01:44:55):
Putting kind of stopped it for me?

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Things?

Speaker 4 (01:45:02):
High high risk, high stress occupation being a promoter?

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Isn't it great?

Speaker 14 (01:45:07):
It's sure as Yeah. I I've still got some pretty
cool phone numbers on my phone in my phone, I'll
beat you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
Yeah, well, good on you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:12):
Thanks for ringing Craig, thanks for your insights.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Yeah, great to chat with you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:15):
Hi guys, great show.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Thanks Gary.

Speaker 4 (01:45:17):
I've been to the Pink Flood experience some years ago.
They were absolutely brilliant. I'm just running wide legal issues
now after they've been around for so many years. Seems strange.
I wonder what's triggered this. She's gaze this good point.
Why is it suddenly being triggered.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
They're trying to work their way through it, but it
is a bit unusual that it's only now that decided
to send the cease and desist. But yeah, there'd be
more to come on that and taking your calls on
the best tribute act you've seen and is it worth
the money? Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's eighteen to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:41):
Four Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon
rolls on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
Sa'd be sixteen to four. So here are some tribute
band names from around the world. Okay, no way cis great,
wastis tribute, the Faux Fighters for the Food Fighters brilliant.
You've got the Fillers, which is a killers tribute band.
You got the Smythes, which is a Smith's tribute band.
You got Nearly Dan is a stan that is very
band beyond Again, as we mentioned before, wrong Jovi, Wrong Jovi.

(01:46:13):
That's that's not bad as it free Zippelin I mentioned
that before ABCD Fleetwood Macarina just pushing the boat out
dire traits. Did the meat Loafers, Yeah, you go the
rolling Scones Scones right, Okay, so high lads, muss hear
drummer for the longest running ac DC show in New Zealand,

(01:46:35):
Squealer eighteen years. We do it for fun, not wealth.
As soon as bands start pulling big crowns and they
get the attention of the owners, we just barely cover
our costs doing small, medium gigs. Last gig was Brewtown
Bogan Day. Next gig plug Moon Brew, Moonbar, Newton, twenty
seventh of June. You go to the Squealers.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
Oh go Hard Murray ACDC covers man, Yeah, twenty seventh
of June at the Moon Bar in Newtown. Don't check
him out, You don't check him out? Yeah, keep those
six covens through On nine two nine two, Ginger, you
had a bad experienariance I did in.

Speaker 17 (01:47:11):
Two point thirteen.

Speaker 25 (01:47:12):
A whole crew of are seaded down to Missing the State,
and I don't know if I just wasn't listening properly,
but I thought we were.

Speaker 17 (01:47:18):
Seeing the Beg's.

Speaker 7 (01:47:20):
So we get there.

Speaker 25 (01:47:21):
Yeah, Carol King came on. She was fantastic.

Speaker 7 (01:47:27):
Have you seen her.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
I've never seen Carol King know.

Speaker 17 (01:47:31):
She was amazing.

Speaker 25 (01:47:32):
Anyway, got the whole crowd going.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
That was really good.

Speaker 25 (01:47:35):
And then next you know, I was supposed to be
the Beg's. Well I didn't realize that it all died
except for Barry. So Barry comes on and he sort
of starts to get into it, and he sets up
a hologram on stage, a massive life size one of Robin,
and so he's using the deceased person. So he'd been

(01:47:58):
filmed when he was actually playing, and then they somehow
put it on a hologram and so he had him
up there for some songs. It was so disappointing. Anyway,
the crowd didn't get into it, and they took it
down and then they brought on Robin's son and that
was Stephen.

Speaker 15 (01:48:15):
Wow, he was stocking.

Speaker 3 (01:48:18):
Of course, Stephen.

Speaker 4 (01:48:19):
I was just walking through a supermarket the other day,
Ginger and the Beatles, the Beg's were just playing in
the background. And you know, the pitch that they singing
in the harmonies that they do is so distinctive but
almost impossible for someone to imitate, but also must be
very hard to keep them going as you get older,
being able to sing it that kind of high pitch,

(01:48:40):
it would be. Yeah, so I can see how it
could fall off a cliff over time.

Speaker 25 (01:48:44):
He really did. He just lost the crowd, which was
a pretty But I'll tell you the best cover band ever,
isn't it? Song Sung Blue? Did you see the movie
doing Neil Diamond?

Speaker 9 (01:48:52):
Ah?

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
No, but there's a few Neil Diamond covered bands out
there to watch. Yeah, I got on your Ginger. Thanks
for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
Song Sung Blue was a movie came out last year.
I'll go check that out, Malcolm.

Speaker 17 (01:49:05):
Yeah, I don't know if you've meant heard of a
band called dread Zeppelin. Did you mention that?

Speaker 5 (01:49:11):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:49:11):
Dread Zeppelin a kind of reggae versions of lead Zepplin songs?
Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
Am I getting that right?

Speaker 24 (01:49:16):
Melt?

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:49:18):
They came out in like the early nineties. But the
weird thing about them they were all good. I used
to own one of their albums, but the lead singer
was an Elvis impersonator.

Speaker 4 (01:49:30):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:31):
I'm just look at the pictures of them, uh to
el is covered? So what during there? So obviously they
you know, they do some lead Zeppelin songs. But does
he chuck a couple of Elvis songs in the middle
of the set.

Speaker 17 (01:49:46):
No, I don't think so. I think from memory it's
it's all like he's just he's Robert Plant and Elvis film.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
It's a It sounds like a name. It sounds like
you've come up with the name and then formed the
band around it. The Sixers Pistols without John Lyden, Dead
Kennedy's without Jello, Biafra New Order with Hookey and Hockey
without New Order?

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Where do you draw the line? Go and have a
good time anyway? I reckon?

Speaker 4 (01:50:14):
Yeah, who saw the six Pistols when they were over here?
Because that seemed like it seems odd to me when
you don't have John Lyden and the band? And I
think the Did Kennedy's right, yep, without Jello, biephro what
are you doing? Jello era? Is the did Kennedy's as
far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Yeah, yeah, Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to caller. Nine two ninety two is the tecks.
There's been plenty of texts that have come through. We'll
get to a few of those very shortly.

Speaker 4 (01:50:42):
Someone's pushing back on Ginger, What the hell are you
talking about? Barry Goob was fantastic, Pretty rough on Barry.

Speaker 3 (01:50:48):
Yeah right, it is eleven two four, the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons us talk, sa'd.

Speaker 3 (01:50:59):
Be eight to four.

Speaker 4 (01:51:01):
Matt your Mauppett, the late Great Event. Halen did the
guitar on Michael Jackson's Beat It. He did the guitar solo,
but Steve Lukatha from Toto Fame, he played both the
rift down and the baseline, and then Eddie Van Halen
came in and just nailed that incredible Gutassel and didn't

(01:51:22):
take any credit for it or any royalties. Eddyvan tailor
good knowledge, Yeah take that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Texter.

Speaker 4 (01:51:27):
Yeah, well, Kensey Jones greatest, one of the greatest producers
of all time. We're just bringing the best musicians to
do the call of stuff on Michael Jackson songs.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Yeah, genius, Glenn. You saw the sex Pistols in the nineties.

Speaker 29 (01:51:38):
Yeah, Man, is the most disappointing concert of unto. I've
got a big portrait of set on my chest.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Grew up, you're a real fan.

Speaker 29 (01:51:46):
No, I grew up believing my way. Yeah, I grew
up being him as a teenager. That even from my way,
I was unfortunately one of them Norty kids. But yeah,
biggest what I was getting. That was the biggest disappointment.

Speaker 2 (01:52:01):
You know.

Speaker 29 (01:52:01):
They played for forty five minutes and then just walked
off stage.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Was that at at the super Top in Auckland?

Speaker 29 (01:52:07):
Yeah? They called it the Fourth Who was it the
fourth for Luca as a ripoff? Yeah, right, did a
concert Johnny Ryan typical rip the world off and off
to go again.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Steve Jones was in the band, n wasn't he?

Speaker 29 (01:52:20):
Yeah? They all were just not Johnny just not said Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:52:24):
Well, I mean hard for said, I mean, Sid died
in nineteen seventy nine, hard to come back for the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
You can't blame him.

Speaker 29 (01:52:31):
I was waiting for him to sing my Way because
I would have on stage back in the days I
would have gone on stage and head button because you
can't do my way like Ford.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
But the Six Pistols toured again recently, still without Sid.
But did you go along to those shows?

Speaker 6 (01:52:49):
No?

Speaker 29 (01:52:50):
No, no, John too sore?

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Now yeah did you watch that movie Sid and Nancy?

Speaker 6 (01:52:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 29 (01:52:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah sure that. I had the original Six
Pistols lived mine the Bollocks video. I had the young
cut version, the untensed version from back when they video
and they had the Little Midget and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:12):
It was a crazy time, crazy bands. But man, this
sexisay is the Poges. We're here without Shane McGowan once again.
Hard to tour with Shane McGowan.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
Yeah controversial, Yeah, well dead, yeah exactly. Yeah right, A
couple more texts and then we'll wrap up.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
Hi, guys, great show. There is an Ossie tribute band
called the Hindley Street Country Club. They were on Sixty
Minutes and touted is one of the best tribute bands around.
They cover a number of bands and singers. You can
catch them on YouTube. All right, cheers, Steve, thanks for that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
Yeah, good text and this one says, get a guys.
I went to a wedding in Little River on Banks
Peninsula and was hoping the Little River Band was going
to be there wasn't the Little River Band that I
was expecting, though still a pretty good tribute act.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
All right, all right, the go okay. That brings us
the end of the show. Thank you so much for
listening of the last four hours of radio geez, and
thanks for all your calls and texts. Andrew Dickens is
the next for Heather Duper c Allen, and he's talking
to Spark's head of fraud about their new technology to
help us identifying scam callers. But right now, Tyler, my

(01:54:19):
good buddy, why am I playing this guitar solo from
nineteen seventy nine?

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
I wonder why man heed the past? Because we were
talking about in the Pink Floyd experience. I don't even
want to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
Yeah, all right, we'll about tomorrow from midday until then,
I'm gonna taste the kiwi from us. All right, thing
as you will, let you go, You're crook.

Speaker 2 (01:55:49):
Mattie and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
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