Full Show Podcast: 09 July 2026

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for Thursday the 9th of July 2026, in the age of social media grabs, a politician's words have never mattered more with the latest from Chris Luxon: I don't need this job, I choose to do it.' What do we make of this?

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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Be hello and welcome to NEUW Stalks the Afternoons on
Matt Heath and I'll be with you live for the
next three hours. Oh my goodness, my headphones are busters.
Makes it complicated. I can hear myself again. Ah, thank goodness,
I can hear. I hear myself. The number here, Just
in case yet you didn't know. I mean, I hardly

(00:47):
ever say it, but the number here is, oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty SI gizz a ring. Now my
Insta feed is, and I think a lot of people's
insta feed is experiencing the same the same thing, because
a lot of people on my inster feed are saying
that their Insta feed is experiencing the same thing. But
my insta feed is absolutely rammed with this. The world

(01:20):
has gone crazy for the six foot five striking Viking
Erling Harland. I love the man. He's just a massive
Viking unit, a goal scoring machine seven goals so far
in the twenty twenty six World Cup. Right from the
moment he entered the Premier League, he has been a monster.

(01:41):
Most goals scored by a Premier League player and all
competitions in one season fifty two goals twenty two to
twenty three. His dad was in the Premier League and
his mum with the Decatholic, so he's he has a
powerful Viking bloodline. For me, he's like for the God
of Thunder meets Loki, the shape shifting chaos creating tricks

(02:02):
to God. He's powerful and strong, but funny and he
never dives because he said dad, who used to play
for Leeds. He said his dad would get it mad
at him if he did.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
He's kind of awesomely funny looking. You know, he's got
that hunchback walk, but he's amazing. He would be just
as happy jumping off a boat and burning down a
monastery as he would be scoring a goal. Anyway. The
problem is I love England football, and particularly Harry Kane,
especially when he lost his voice after the Mexico win.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Ah speechless, children, my place is gone.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
We had to fight it. So this Sunday he sounds
like a muppet. The word muppet has bandied about a
lot on the show, but he does sound like a muppet.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
There.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
So the Sunday morning, it's Erriy Kane, the mighty English
King versus Early, the powerful Viking warrior at nine am.
And if only we lived in a world in which
they both could would but they can't, So go England.
Now we hear a lot of about the man City
halland song, but how about this official Norwegian Viking song.

(03:14):
This is powerful.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
From the thunder one Warrior risers the North is calling.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Chill powerful stuff. Of course, historically the Vikings and the
English have had their confrontations and their battles, and the

(04:01):
Vikings historically won those. Where we go, it's powerful stuff.
But let's even things out with a bit of a
bit of vnderlop.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Wo. You put the cackle of.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Nine am Sunday morning. It's a big one. I'm excited.
I've got ten mates coming around and making them breakfast,
full English breakfast with some Norwegian fish row on the side.
But anyway, let's put that behind us and let's move
on with the show. Prime Minister Christopher LUXENHLDI public meeting

(04:51):
and funga a yesterday, drawing hundreds of locals hyping up
National's local candidate Lloyd Bud the meeting seeing friendly rather
than sort of screaming and competitive. But the PM was
challenged at one point from the floor over proposed local
government changes such as the possible removal of regional councils. Anyway,

(05:12):
that was that. But the line that has got everyone
going is when he said I don't need this job.
Well we all know how much is unsorted. Comments were
banded around in the press and social media back in
the day, and you know, the supporters of the Prime
Minister will say it's a successful man, saying he is

(05:35):
there for the service, not the salary. He entered politics
to use the schools he has gained in business to
make his country a better place. That's what National Party
supporters would say. But of course his critics, to them,
it sounds like he is rich when other people are
struggling that he is out of touch with the common
kiw Some are saying here is he only wants to

(05:56):
be the Prime Minister to put another feather in his
Wikipedia page. If that is a saying, so do you
want politicians who have done other staff and say they
choose public service or does that sound like elites doing
us a favor? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number looking forward to the conversation on this for the

(06:19):
next hour. It is twelve minutes past one. You're listening
to News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Talk ZEDB, Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
It is called a past one. You're listening to Matt
Eath on News Talk z B. And when Christopher Luxeon
says I don't need to do this job, do you
hear public service from a man with experience or a
wealthy bloke sounding out of touch? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
This Texas is read the whole comment out, you pinko,
And this Texas is Matt the commie undermining the government. Again,

(06:57):
that's not what Christopher Luxeon said. Okay, I read the
whole thing out. That's funny because I get similar abuse
from both sides. Right, so I'm either a fascist or
a pinko. All right, this is the whole comments, then
fair enough, I'll read them out so that they're not
out of context. This is what the Prime Minister said

(07:17):
in Fugadai yesterday. For me, it is really important as
an opportunity as a prime minister. It is not common,
but I love doing this. I love getting in and
out of Wellington as quickly as possible and getting out
and about and meeting the people because from that frontline
you actually hear the opportunity and also the challenges that exists.

(07:39):
He then told the crowd, I don't need to do
this job. I choose to do this job because actually
I want the potential in the great country of ours,
this great country of ours, to be realized for the
benefit of our kids and our ground kids. So that's
the full transcript the exact words that was said. So
you know, fair enough, though I mean if you just

(08:01):
I mean, if you just pull out as I was
the words, I don't need to do this job. It
does sound a lot worse than I read it out
in context, So good point. Welcome to show Mary.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Oh hello guys. Yeah, I haven't been listening for long,
but before the news a man probably said everything that
I would have thought about this whole issue regarding our
prime minister, whom I think is doing a marvelous job.
When I reflect on how deep a hole our nation

(08:37):
had fallen into after the last labor government, I just think,
over this time of difficult time, he's doing really, really well,
and those who criticized him should actually look at themselves
in the mirror. Actually, in my opinion, because you know,

(08:59):
he might have had a throwaway line saying I don't
need to do this job, but he believes that he
could help New Zealand in all ways that working with
all his team, he's doing such a difficult and very
good job.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
What do you think He's struggled to convince more people
of this than John Key did. So, of course John
Key remained very popular, but he was a former mayoral lynch,
foreign exchange boss. You know, he was very very successful
and wealthy man coming into politics, you know, considerably more

(09:43):
wealthy than Christopher Luxon. And yet and yet he then
yet john Key kind of had this common man you know,
people sort of saw him as a common man.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
Yes, there might be so you know some people have
got maybe a next step to that a little bit
more than someone else may not have. But it's people
would just stop and listen to what he has to
say instead of being critical of him. This is very
This is a New Zealand fault. I think I'm talking

(10:17):
generally here, but it's the tall poppy syndromes. You know,
if people have worked hard and okay, he might have
been lucky enough to never have struggled in his life,
like a lot of people are struggling right now, but
he's doing all right. And you know the difference between

(10:44):
a career politician like Pres. Pipkins and some of these
other lefties who are so critical of mister Luxelon and
they've never ever had to run a business themselves and
think of maybe improving the economy of the nation to

(11:05):
see those who are less fortunate, you know, I just
wish bad stop and preps salivate themselves instead of running
people who've got wealth down.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Do you think that people just look at the world though,
And so nationals come in and supporters would say that
they've had a very difficult environment, but they came in
with promises to sort things out, and people are still struggling.
We're still hearing the words cost of living crisis, the
words cost of living crisis everywhere. So if you're just

(11:43):
going about your daily job and you know, you're not
that engaged with politics because you're too busy, too tired,
You get home whatever. Then isn't that the way you
judge a politician on how your life is right now?
Is that how you judge a leader? And then if
the leader happens to be pretty well off, then that

(12:03):
breeds resentment?

Speaker 6 (12:04):
Mary, I do really believe that it's very hard to
raise family today. I also reflect back on my own parents,
who were post war parents who actually struggled. You know,
as a child, I remember coming home from school and

(12:27):
having lad on a piece of bread with salt and
pepper because that's all they want.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Did you say, loud lad here? My dad loved.

Speaker 6 (12:41):
Well, that's that's what mum would say. Well, I can't
give you butter and bread every day, but there's some
lad in the safe and so yeah, but I mean
health peats. I mean, I'm nearly eighty three now.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Anthy, you sound very passionate and powerful. You're a very
healthy eighty three year old, don't you married?

Speaker 6 (13:02):
Well, I don't know. You don't know what's going on inside.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But I do not.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
I do as well I can. But yeah, but you
know what I'm saying is they learned to go without.
You know, I look at some today, you know, on
benefits and stuff, but they've got plenty of money for
tatoos all over their faces, up their arms, up their legs,

(13:28):
and that costs a lot of money. So it's all
a matter of how you spend what you've got.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeh, Well, there you go. That's Mary's opinion. Do you
agree with Mary? Give us a call? Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty So people spending their money on tattoos
and not eating enough lard and Chris a luxean is
doing a fantastic job and he doesn't have to do it.
Do you agree? Give us a call?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Feelers focused informed, it's the mic Hosking.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Breakfast Finance Minister Nichola Willison. At what point would you
be worried before the of the year if there was
two more or one more or no more?

Speaker 7 (14:11):
It depends on economic events. And while I've been celebrating,
as I'm sure any New Zealanders have been the big
fall in the petrol price at the pump, of course,
just in the past twenty four hours we've seen the
price of oil leap out five percent as the skirmish
in the Middle East continue. So we still don't have
the full information about what happened in that three months
when the crisis was peaking, how high actually did inflation go,

(14:32):
And until I've got that information, it's pretty difficult to
guess what the right response through the ocras.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Baby's Real Estate News Talk ZB. It is twenty five
past one. You listen to News Talk ZB. Matt Heath,
do you want your politicians to have had a lot
of real world experience that they can bring to the
job when they go into politics or do you think

(14:59):
Luxeon's I don't need this job line is damaging because
plenty of kiwis in need every job they can get
at the moment. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty The Texas
says Matt two wars on got to be brain dead
if people blame Luxe and cheers Alex Louise, welcome to

(15:19):
the show.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Your thoughts from Matte.

Speaker 8 (15:23):
That astounds me with Luxton that he said that, because
he could have said everything that you read out and
apart from that line, because whenever you preface anything with that,
it's immediately going to sow doubt in anybody's mind, regardless

(15:43):
of what your job is. So if you're a radio
host in your case, then you said, well, I don't
really need this job, but I do it because I
enjoy the the reality. Or if it was a person
who was a doctor and said, well, I don't really
you know, I don't need this job, but I do
it because I want to help people's it's mind proggling

(16:04):
that he said that.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, but then again, isn't it. Isn't it scummy media
like myself that just read the line out. You know,
he's talking live an event. It's it's the it's the
mood of the room, and we could we could have
equally picked out I love doing this. So out of
that sentence we've chosen to pick I don't need to
do this job. But we could have all said that.

(16:27):
So this is this is what he said in full
to give the full context. I I love doing this.
I love getting in and out of Wellington as quickly
as possible and getting out about a meeting with people
because from the front line you actually hear the challenges
that exist. I don't need to do this job. I
choose to do this job because actually I want the

(16:47):
potential in the great country of ours to be realized
for the benefit of kids and our grandkids.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
Which is great. But why did he need to put
that negative in that barb because of public images were
going to suffer from that. People, media and people. Average
person on the street me for example, cringes and says,
why are you saying that? Why do you why do
you even put that out? And I mean he's got
an image problem.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, And I look, I guess that's the difference between
someone that comes into politics after a successful business career
like him, as opposed to someone that's in politics for
their whole career. They become very polished in what they say,
and it's quite hard in the cauldron of politics in
New Zealand to learn the craft. But I'm sure you know,

(17:33):
if he was getting advice, they'd say, say I love
to do the job, don't say I don't need it.
I'm sure they probably right now saying to him next time,
emphasize how much you love this job, and don't say
that you don't need to do this job, because.

Speaker 9 (17:47):
I'm not sure you go to be a advisor.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Well, who isn't ad a radio person. Rachel Smalley's advisor.
So right now, she's probably saying to him, you love
this job, you love this job, Say you love this job,
don't say you don't need it. Hey, thank you so
much for call. For your call, Louise, I appreciate it. Unfortunately,
Luxe and Portrays reminds most people he is nothing but

(18:13):
a corporate jock, says this texter, what do you think
about that? The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We're talking about Christopher Luxen and politicians that do a
bunch of other stuff and get successful in life before
they go into politics. Is that preferable to the career politicians?

Speaker 5 (18:34):
Love?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Here your thoughts. It is twenty nine past one.

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Speaker 2 (19:51):
Do in debt. Back to Matteith, it is twenty seven
minutes to two. We're talking about politicians with experience. It
is twenty seven minutes. Did I already say the time?
I think I did? You know that's normally Tyler's job,
But I'll say it again just in case you set
your watch by a news at his twenty seven minutes
to two. So Christoph Luxen hold a meeting and Fangray

(20:13):
one hundreds turned up and everyone's getting excited about the line,
I don't need to do this job now. Supporters applaud this,
they say, that's exactly the point. He's not there for
the money. He's a successful guy who chose public service
and wants to use his business experience to help his
country and need. Critics seem to be hearing it very differently.
They're saying it sounds rich, out of touch and a
bit like a trophy prime minister. There for his Wikipedia page.

(20:37):
But what do you think about this? This text says
what a load of bollocks you love? Winston Peter's What
did he ever do before parliament? Well, he got a
BA in an LLLB, He worked as a primary and
secondary school teacher, He did a bit of mining, He
was a barrister and a solicitor. Yeah, and he also
played a bunch of rugby and until he entered parliament

(21:00):
in nineteen seventy three at the age of thirty three.
So you got to say, whence Peter's did quite a
bit of stuff before he got into parliament. Pete your
thoughts you yeah, I.

Speaker 11 (21:11):
Reckon it's not doing too bad a job because he
was here and you plymouth flyas Saturday, right, and you've
got to give him. He's pretty good.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
You know.

Speaker 11 (21:19):
He can just say things about even looking at things
on a piece of paper. So yeah, he has run
companies and that, so he's not a stupid man. But
he says some stuff like he shouldn't have said that
he said, but he says, I really loved the job,
you know, you know, it's like he said, it's probably
not but it's only words.

Speaker 13 (21:36):
I think he probably.

Speaker 11 (21:37):
Probably shouldn't have said it. But I think I wouldn't
take that really as bad.

Speaker 14 (21:41):
You know, look at.

Speaker 11 (21:42):
John Key did the same thing, didn't he He gave
his money to the two donations any of whatever. John
Key gave his money. But but you got to look
at it this way, is you know, it's like a CV.
He's probably says he don't really have to be here,
but you get to put it on your CV. And
he said I was the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
It's not a bad reference him on your CV. Really

(22:06):
he knows and all know that we end up on
board of directors and stuff like that, trustees or whatever
they do. So basically it's a good stepping stone for them.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
And know, yeah, although you'd say with Christopher Luxon, you know,
even though he isn't giving away his salary. I don't
think like John Key did. We're not taking a salary
like John keyget did. But he definitely took a pay card,
a massive pay card to be Prime Minister as opposed
to being you know, the boss avia New Zealand. So
there is there is a definite sacrifice there. But do

(22:38):
you think that maybe the problem is, you know, we've
got someone he's out talking, saying thousands and thousands of words,
and right now we are jumping on one, two, three, four, five,
one two six of those seven of those, we're jumping
on seven words. And do you think maybe it would
be you know, media people like myself should instead of

(23:03):
jumping on specific words and jumping up and down when
someone says something not exactly like they meant to, especially
since I do that constantly. Instead we should report the
vibe of what was being said. Do you see what
I'm saying, Pete, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 11 (23:19):
I think you know, you know, but he probably said
the wrong thing, but I don't think it was he
was a meaning to do it in the wrong way,
just the right words, but easy enough. You know, you're
thinking he's a good talker. You've got to listen to
my stay. He's a good talker and he knows business
like he can he can rattle things off and he
knows them, so he has is going to take it

(23:41):
a place.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, well, you know, a bunch of people are saying
that he's in the wrong job. He should be the
finance minister. And you know this, this particular texture is
saying that who they saying should be there should be
in charge Mark Mitchell. You know, because there was different
there's different jobs and politics. You know, we wish that

(24:03):
we were all people that just looked at the numbers
and made sober decisions. But charisma is a big part
of why people make decisions because you know, people busy
as are saying before, so how they feel about a
politician is huge. I mean, most people aren't going through
policy statements, are they.

Speaker 11 (24:20):
Pete Mark Chear, that's right, But Mark Mitchell farising said
he's not a prime minister material. They're all good leaders
in the in the in the minister of roles what
they're doing, but there certain people are not good to
being a prime minister and Marks they no disrespect to him,
but it wouldn't be good as a prime minister.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Oh yeah, well well why do you think that?

Speaker 11 (24:41):
Uh yeah, knocking there. He's been a police and what
he's done, he's done well on them for himself was
good on him.

Speaker 14 (24:48):
But he recko.

Speaker 11 (24:49):
But he hasn't got the I don't think he's got
the business sinse to. I think you've got to be
to a certain degree to run a to be a
leader like the prime minister, you've got to have businesses.
You've gotta know how to sort of run things.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
But what about what about the because I mean, one
of the biggest compliments people give Christopher Luxe and is
that he's sort it out national So it was a
sort of a leaky basket case and then he sorted
everything out and got it into a well run unit.
You know, he did that that sort of behind the
scenes stuff which you feel like in the John Key government.
Bill English was doing that and John Key was in

(25:26):
the in the business of, you know, keeping people informed
and excited about the government and running the charisma factor.
You might say the same thing about Helen Clark and
Cullen potentially. So sometimes sometimes you have the really popular
charismatic go up the front, and then just behind that
you have the really, really competent person that's holding everything together.

Speaker 11 (25:48):
Yeah, I'd prefer to have that, and someone is a
bit doubtful. So you're gonna as someone that says he's
got a good leadership. You've got to give him that.
He's sorted out what you say, what he got a
hand and I real hasn't handled too badly.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I think if you call Pete, I appreciate it.
All right. What do you think about this? Is I
don't know this job public service or was this just
a rich bloke auditioning for his legacy. I'd love your thoughts.
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the issues that affect
you and a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
It is eighteen minutes to two on Matt Heath, you're
on newstalk z B. This Texas says, Hey, Matt, love
the show, but you're wrong on this one. I mean,
what did Hipkins ever do? Why is it a problem
to be successful but okay to be a career politician
who has failed that everything he has ever done. I'm
so happy we have a smart man economically in charge
in these difficult times. Well, the funny thing is I

(26:47):
haven't given any opinion on.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
This at all.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
I've just asked the question. But if you're asking the question,
what did Hipkins ever do, let's have a look. Entered
parliament at age thirty. Before that, non government, non parliamentary
career about two to three years, mainly as a policy
advisor for the Industry Training Federation and a trainee manager

(27:10):
for Todd Energy. Otherwise student politics and parliamentary advisor. Roles
biggest achievement probably is being well the leader of the
opposition and you know he was the Education Minister and
the COVID nineteen response minister, wasn't he back in the day.
So that's what Chris Hopkins has done. And does that

(27:32):
stack up with with Christopher Luxon? Heymo? How are you?

Speaker 6 (27:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (27:39):
Fantastic Matt. You know when I heard your statement first,
I also felt, you know, it's the how can you
know our primasis say like this? But then when you
read the full statement, the context completely changes, you know,
and my opinion opinion goals Crystabal Lesson is doing fantastic job. Definitely.

(28:00):
You know, if you see our people who are migrating
that side of the world is mainly because of the
not not having jobs this side and not having enough
high paying job this side. So if this guy is
trying to get some sort of you know jobs, you know,
generateal in this in Anxiel economy, I think we should

(28:22):
support lux And rather than you know, just criticizing him
and you know, making our economy better.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So do you think, just in general, and you're voting,
are you more likely to vote for someone that has
had success for a number number of years outside in
the real world then someone that has primarily been you know,
wrapped up in politics. The term career politicians.

Speaker 15 (28:50):
If you see Crystopher Luxon was with the Air newser
and the successful see you why he needs to come
into the dirty politics sort of, But he came, so
let us at least support him. And he's successful in
his personal life. But you know, just throwing that one
line and making you know, his image completely is the
media's job just to you know, get that RB sort

(29:12):
of thing, rather than that give a full context, let
the people judge, you know, on what he has done,
rather than uh, you know, just giving that one single
line out of the context.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, but that about what about my question? That I
asked you there, I'm alt, would you generally speaking prefer
to vote for someone that has had real life success
out in the in the world or someone that as
a seasoned politician that's come up through you know, political ranks.

Speaker 15 (29:42):
I would I want, frankly speaking my personal opinion as
it would be definitely advisable to have somebody who has
come from the business background. Now look at the look
at from my perspective, look at the Indian you know
the things, uh, mistern mode is we are hosting this
mister Modi this weekend in Auckland. Obviously the four trillion

(30:02):
plus economy you know, which is first six global economic
in the world. Right now, we as a New Zealand
two hundred and fifty eight billion dollar economy trying to
you know, shake hands with the world fastest growing economy.

Speaker 16 (30:16):
So that's where you.

Speaker 15 (30:18):
Know, Luxeen is playing and his team definitely Todd is
also playing a big role. And they also promised another
seven I don't believe more FDAs in coming years. So
it's going to be definitely a positive aspect for our economy.
I believe we all should put it into the perspect
of the economy where we will have a growth, people

(30:39):
will stay here.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Oh I'm out, it's disappeared. We've lost them. All right,
let's go to Steven. Steven your thoughts. Unfortunately we asked Imo,
so what are your thoughts on this? Steven?

Speaker 17 (30:57):
Yeah, I'd like to address that call a few calls
back who was just finging lucks and saying you should
give him a chance judge him pays know he's done. Now,
that's exactly what I'm doing it. He was the CEO
of in New Zealand, right, and he practically drove that
company into the ground. He has already proven it's his

(31:18):
economic leadership is worthless. And it's like he calls beneficiaries
bottom feess. Meanwhile, he is entitled to his entitlements.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Yeah, but that that bottom feeder was that that was
taken out of context, of course, I mean, you're you're
you're just taking that line, so you know, do you
know where that line was said?

Speaker 17 (31:40):
Oh, it's one of the most popular insults towards beneficiaries
in this country bottom feeders.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Right, Okay, but but what do you mean that in
New Zealand was in a was in a bad state
when when Luxon left.

Speaker 17 (31:55):
Oh, it's just that it was doing terribly. It was
doing well. Then he became the CEO, and then he
drove us into the ground and was performing terribly.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Okay, so on what on? On what measures?

Speaker 17 (32:12):
All of them?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
So it was it was doing I mean, it seemed
to have a reasonably strong financial performance back back then
when he left in twenty nineteen, as far as I know,
I think a lot of the problems came after then,
but there were, you know, there were some problems. But
I'm not sure you could say that he drove in
New Zealand into the ground. I think that's that's a
that's a pretty big, big statement.

Speaker 17 (32:35):
Oh that's just the way I see things.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Okay, Steven, thank you so much for your call. I
appreciate that. We'll be back in just a few moments
with more of your thoughts. I mean, did Christopher Luxan
drive you in New Zealand into the ground. I'd love
to hear your thoughts on that as well.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Matt Heath, Tyler Adams taking your calls on Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty It's Matt Heath and Tyler
Adams Afternoons News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
It is nine minutes to too. You're listening to new
Talk ZB on Matt Heath in New Zealand thrived under
lux leadership. That last caller is just a labor troll.
The facts speak for themselves. He delivered the second highest
profit in the airline's history in two thousand and eighteen.
The full Luxe in bottom feeder comments this is here

(33:22):
was actually on newstik ZB Kerry McIvor Kerry Woodham. Now
I've got to be honest to all of your listeners.
This is a fantastic country. This is the best country
on planet Earth, said Luxe. But we have to determine.
We want to realize our maximum potential economically, socially and environmentally,
and we want to be a place everyone can flourish.

(33:43):
And if you want to have a go and you
want to make something for yourself, we don't just do
bottom feeding and just focus on the bottom. We focus
on people who want to be positive and ambitious and
aspirational and confident. Right, So that exploded, exploded where people
were saying that he was calling beneficiaries bottom feeders. But
I think that's a pretty cruel and disingenuous way of

(34:05):
taking what he was saying. What he was saying is
really when need to you know, fertilize success as well
as you know, putting a lot of money into people
at the bottom. And it was it was using you know,
it probably wasn't the ideal term to use, but you
can understand what he's trying to say that for a
country to go to succeed, you need to you know,

(34:29):
focus on success as well as you know, helping the
people that struggle. I don't think that's a really very
controversial thing to say, Chris, your thoughts.

Speaker 18 (34:41):
Yeah, Toda, Yeah, I'm really not into career politicians, so
I suppose you know where I'm coming from. I mean,
I would really like term limits because I think a
lot of people overstay there.

Speaker 19 (34:55):
Welcome.

Speaker 18 (34:55):
I mean I had a family member who was in
there for thirty plus years and they greatly overstayed there. Welcome.
I think term limits are pretty good really, And you know,
I like people I have been successful not only in
their personal life but also in their business career, and

(35:17):
with these career politicians quite often you don't get any
of that, which is an issue from my point of view.
And you know, the current Prime Minister has been super successful.
I mean people only talk about any ze on but
hang on, before that, he had about six to eight
years in the US where he was second in charge

(35:37):
of Procter and Gamble. Do people know how big Proctor
and Gamble are. They're massive, They're one of the Fortune
five hundred companies, and they're about the second or third
biggest in the area of what they do. And that's
what he did and he was successful there. And you
know from that perspective, you know, from my personal point

(35:59):
of view, I sort of look at politicians like if
I was going to invest some money, who would I
give it to? You know, if I had a million
dollars and was looking for a return, would I give
it to Chippy or would I give it to Christopher Luxton?
And I know who I'd give it to because I
know who's going to give me the better return. So

(36:23):
I think that all sort of bodes well for the
country because he's doing his best so that we can
do our best. And you know, he's got the record
to present.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's Chris's thoughts. Do you agree, Bruce, Welcome to the show.
You're not a national supporter.

Speaker 9 (36:40):
No, no, I used to be. I grew up in
Kent Country farm and of course back then all farmers
grow voted national. But as I've gone through my life,
I've probably gone the other way a little bit. It's
to be fair this time around.

Speaker 20 (36:53):
I both tot.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
I like the opportunity. I like some of those fresh
new ideas, and I'd love to give a shout out
to our MMP system. It's awesome the old give us,
I think, because it gives a voice to people who
normally wouldn't get one. And you know, I know we
sometimes get hung up on that on the election where

(37:18):
a smaller party holds the billance of power. But I
think we keet stuff introduced into legislation that probably would
be a priority if we just still had the first
past the post two party system where it's just pretty
down the middle and pretty standard. I do like the
variation we get with them, and b.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Anyway, you know, you go, I'm going to have to
hurry you. Sorry've on, I got about We've got about
thirty seconds left.

Speaker 9 (37:46):
Sorry, Bruce, no worries just signed out. This is sound
bite sorry that everybody's chewing on. You just have to
look at the context that he clearly didn't mean he
didn't need this shoh blah blah blah. What he was saying, is.

Speaker 20 (37:59):
He chose to do this?

Speaker 9 (38:01):
And even though I'm not necessarily on really enthusiastic about
as politics, I think he's very capable man. And he
clearly didn't mean I don't need that, you know, he
was just saying, he was trying to say, I chose
to do this because I want to do some good.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, thank you, Bruce. Yeah, it's been a great discussion
on balance. I think News Talk ZB listeners overwhelmingly think
it's great that the pm is is doing the job
because he thinks he can fix the country, rather than
that he needs the salary. As they say, though a
lot of people are saying media scum like me grabbing
a couple of molted lines and turning into a mountain,

(38:40):
that that possibly is the real problem right there, all right,
Coming up next one hundred and eighty ten eighty, we're
talking about uber they're going to start taking cash. But
is this the exception that proves the rule that we
are fast becoming a cashlest society? And how do you
feel about that? It is three minutes to two.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Same the big stories, the big issues, the big trends,
and everything in between. And Taylor Adams afternoons News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Hello and welcome back on Matt Heath and I'll be
with you live until four pm. My number is eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to give
me a call, I'll tell you what. The text machine
here at Newstalk ZB is on fire with people talking
up Christoph Luckson's leadership of in New Zealand. We had

(39:34):
a caller saying that he drove the airline into the ground. Well,
there's not a lot of people that support that opinion,
according to our text machine, a lot of support for
the current Prime minister's running of there in New Zealand
coming through Now. I've got a question for you. Do
think co hosts should be on call the whole time
while they're are on holiday Because I don't know if
you noticed, but my co host, Tyler Adams has been

(39:55):
away this week. He's on holiday and I've been pestering
him with messages because I need him to help me
out with something. Because he's the anchor of the show.
He's over there normally over there for me, meaning you
think for you, But I'm looking at an empty seat
there here in the Mike Cosquing Memorial Studio and he
does a lot of the admin. So I've just been
messaging him for the last hour for an important piece

(40:20):
of admin I need him to do or I need
him to tell me how to do and he's lazily
skiing or something shocking. So hopefully he's getting his paydoct
wherever he is. All right coming up. So and just
so you know, Tyler Adams will be back with me
next week on the show. He's just on a little holiday.

(40:40):
Now onto the topic for the next hour on our
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. So Uber has said
it will take cash.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
So Uber said it'll take cash, which sounds crazy. Here
you go like that? So it will take cash? And
when I heard that, I was wow, Uber will take cash.
And does it worry you that we have become such

(41:11):
a cashless society that it is now news when a
company announces that they will actually take cash. I mean,
this is how it work. If you you still have
to book the Uber through the app. When the cash
option is available, you can choose cash is your method.
The driver sees up front that it is a cash

(41:31):
payment trip and can choose to whether to accept cash trips.
Ubers zed pilot material says, drivers see cash payment on
the trip offer card, so it's there, you know, do
you want to take this a cash payment? At the
end of the ride, the app tells the driver how
much cash to collect. You hand that over to the driver.

(41:52):
The driver enters the exact amount received into the app.
Uber's example as if the rider gives a twenty dollars
note and gets two dollars change. The driver enters eighteen dollars,
but the driver doesn't have to give you change. They
enter the full amount and you receive Uber driver credits.
Uber cres. It's if the rider doesn't pay the full fare,
the driver records that in the app and the Uber

(42:13):
follows it up. Uber tells drivers not to argue over
the payment and says it will handle remaining funds with
the rider. Cash tips are separate, says, cash tips are
not included in the driver's payment summary, which is an
interesting thing, you know, just giving a driver a cash tip.
But the fact that they're advertising cash doesn't that prove

(42:37):
the rule that cash is disappearing very very rapidly. I mean,
I don't have any cash anymore except in the car.
I've got a few extra two dollar coins that I
get from Washworld for people that come up to my
windows at the lights and stuff. But it's getting harder
and harder to get cash. You just don't have change
around most people. I think, well, I don't know if

(42:58):
most people are like me, but I don't even have
cards now. I just carry around my phone. And it
surprises me that that uber is going the other way.
Apparently it's it's the way in seventy countries and has
been that way for a very long time. But it's
quite quite a turnaround. I mean, taxis used to have
a tell, didn't they, I believe. I'm trying to remember
how they did it. I think they used to have

(43:19):
a click clack so you could do your credit card.
But of course, you know, taking cash in a uber
a taxi makes being robbed a problem. So my question
for you on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
have we gone too far with cashless payments? Do you
still want cash in our society or do you not?

(43:42):
You know, why do we need it or care when
we can do it all with our telephones. Eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. We're back in a minute with your
calls and texts.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heath and Tyler Adams
Afternoons Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US Talk zed B.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
It is forty minutes past two. You listen to Matt
Heath on News Talk z B. Sean, welcome to show.
So we're talking about the fast approaching cashless society. What
do you feel about that?

Speaker 20 (44:13):
Yeah, I think we need to keep cash alive. It's important,
has its uses.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Definitely, Anty. No, no, so you continue, Sean.

Speaker 20 (44:24):
Yeah, No, I just wanted to raise the point that
you know, you take your fifty dollars a month down
to the dairy or whatever and you make your purchase
of fifty dollars. Well, that's fifty dollars. The dairy man,
he takes it and he might spend it somewhere else,
or you know, might go back to the bank and
then it goes to somebody else. But you know, in perpetuity,

(44:44):
it stays as a fifty dollars note and it holds
its value until it's retired, you know, probably through damages
or whatever. But if you go down to the dairy
and you spend your fifty dollars through yeah postcard, there's
a transition fee of like two or three percent, So
every every transition, that fifty dollars becomes less and less

(45:05):
and less, and that's money going to the banks, you know,
the owners of the beans too, if you want to
buy shares.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But yeah, and so are you carrying a bit of
cash around on you, Sean, I don't want to make
you a target for being mugged, but do you carry
a bit of cash around.

Speaker 21 (45:23):
Sometimes?

Speaker 20 (45:24):
Sometimes? Yeah, I'm not the best out of myself, but yeah,
you know, I do inherently see the importance of.

Speaker 9 (45:32):
Cash.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
That's the problem though, That's how they get us. Arguably
it is convenience, right, So it's it becomes so inconvenient
to to get cash and spend cash, and people are
surprised when you hang an and over cash even though
that there's you know, if you think it's it's a
better option, you end up, you know, not really having
the time to fight the fight. And so because because

(45:55):
I like the idea of cash as well, but I'm
but just the convenience of everything means I'm paying for
everything just with my phone. I'm not even carrying if
postcards and around around anymore.

Speaker 20 (46:03):
Well, I mean, I guess my job. They don't pay
me in cash. They pay me by deposits. But if
I was paid then I could carry it.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
You know.

Speaker 20 (46:11):
It's just it's just it doesn't come to me in
that form.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
So well you ever, we we I I'm not sure
how old you are. You sound quite young, but were
you ever around when getting paid in an envelope? With cat?

Speaker 20 (46:25):
Now I used to get paid slips in an envelope, right,
so I think it'll.

Speaker 13 (46:29):
Still being the positive it must have been.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
That must have been quite a temptation, right so now right, yeah, right, okay,
well you know, so not quite young enough to have
just been paid in a brown envelope with money in it,
but that must have been quite a temption, a temptation
for people back in the day. So the digit the
one positive or one of the positives of digitizing the
money is that you can have automatic payments coming out.

(46:53):
Because I can imagine on a Friday night, four o'clock,
five o'clock knock off work, you're given an envelope of money.
I mean, the temptation just to have a few drinks
and then throw a course of the wind and spend
it all before you paid the rent and the bills
must have been must have been massive, So there are
some advantages shorn in this in the Yeah.

Speaker 20 (47:16):
Well, to be honest, I suppose you're right, and that
expect I do remember getting paid and I'd spend all
my paid when I first got paid, and I learned
that my problem was that I didn't get my pay
into multiple different accounts, so I only had a card
on me and give me the I forget that I
could get paid into different accounts and I didn't have

(47:37):
access to those other accounts, so I managed to start saving.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, see, so those are those are clear advantages, aren't they.
But then, as you say, even to get that cash
out now, so if you're getting paid into I mean,
you can't have a job without a bank account, so
you can't be out completely outside of the digital world.
I don't think there's going to be anyone that's employ
you and just give you cash these days. And so

(48:00):
even to get your cash shorn that you think is
a great idea, because that fifty dollars doesn't keep getting
diminished by fees. There's still a to get that money
out of an f POS machine.

Speaker 20 (48:12):
Some SOMEOS machines use ANOS machine.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
That your am I mean, ye, yeah, atm Bencod.

Speaker 20 (48:20):
I think there's no fees. There's only these a few
doing transactions a month or something like that, and it
depends on the account that comes out of. Like, I've
definitely not been charged, but I've definitely been ripped when
I go to one of those random ATMs that are.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah right, those little, those punishing little ones in the
corner of service station. I've definitely been I mean, I've
definitely been ripped off by those overseas when you different
you just need cash, because places like the United States
have ever remained quite cash heavy. You know, they're they're
they're big, they're holding onto cash a lot, a lot
harder than we are. Hey, thank you so much for

(48:58):
you call Sean Victoria your thoughts on cash.

Speaker 12 (49:03):
Hi morning, I'm sorry, afternoon, gosh, I've been looking to
that my views.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
Look, I I love cat.

Speaker 12 (49:11):
I mean, I don't carry a lot, but we go
to the farmer's market every Saturday and set them and
we always we always have cash.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, yeah, because yeah, I mean it used to be
that you just you'd go past a lot of stalls
at a farmer's market and not be able to buy stuff. Now,
but even the ones that don't have if poss Now,
normally we'll have a little thing that you can you
can muck around and pay into their account, you know,
like a you know, they have their bank account there.

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Yeah, so true.

Speaker 12 (49:42):
And a lot of them actually still have those little
mobile you know, if pos machines or whatever, and look
they are really help you know, handy. But we just
still do it because you know, there's there's just the
odd little you know, stall holder, and you know, I
don't know, I just I feel that it's it's still
something that I carry around with me and the old

(50:03):
boys that play Irish music. You give them a couple
of dollars or whatever and they go and have high
in the pub afterwards. You know, I still think I
still think it is.

Speaker 22 (50:12):
It is that's.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
That's sort of a sort of a depressing thing that
we've lost because a good buscoor or street performer adds
so much to a city. But I'm just I'm just
thinking now if they are disappearing, I don't think you
see them as much because you know, how how does
it work? I mean they you know, they're throwing some
money in a hat, the old school way of doing it, right,

(50:34):
You know, if they're playing, you can't really run an
f POS card, you know, they can't. They can't be
stopping to take a thing on them on their machine.
That that's a that's a that's a real bummer.

Speaker 12 (50:49):
Yeah, And I mean, you know, I just I mean,
I don't get a lot of cash out because I
don't have younger kids anymore. But even when I had
younger kids, we always had to have cash. But I
still think, you know, I still go just to the
local ATM and talk Tarmers and just get some cash
out and then just go, you know, go to the
farmer's market. Just it's just a habit and I just
think it's it's just something I'll just continue to do.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, good on you. And I love Paul Charmers. I'm
from down that way. Love it. Hey, thank you so
much for you. Thank you so much for your call, Victoria.
I appreciate it so o eight hundred Hoadaki Uber is
taking cash again a sign The fact that we're that
we're even talking about them taking cash again, for me
is a sign that we've become incredibly cashless as a society.

(51:34):
So has that gone too far? I guess the call
you listen to News Talk z B, it is twenty
one past two.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. On News Talk ZB it is.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Twenty four past two eight hundred eighty ten eighty. This
Texas says, O eight hundred Hodaki? Really? How long has
it been from Michael? Yeah? So if you don't know,
I came to News Talk ZMB from doing the breakfast
show on Radio Hodaki. So for eleven years I was
saying the number downstairs that's where that station is. So amazingly,

(52:13):
I've been doing this show for eighteen months and still
when put on the spot, I sometimes go into autopilot
and give the old radio station's number. See. The thing is,
I don't give the number out on the show normally
because Tyler's on holiday, so he's the give the number
out guy. So since I left Hardak, you haven't really
been in a position of giving out the number. But
to be clear, the number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

(52:38):
And we are talking about cash. Uber is bringing about
cash payments, but do we need cash? Is cash I
know about freedom and piracy? Or is it just sort
of bleeding heart nostalgia for something that is slow and inconvenience. Andrew,
welcome to the show mate. Very good.

Speaker 23 (53:04):
Cash.

Speaker 16 (53:05):
We need to carry a little bit. Everyone should. What happens,
God's exist because the enginet ever goes down and you can't.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah yeah, I mean.

Speaker 16 (53:20):
Center, you know that all goes down and crashes and
you can't get fuels you're traveling all.

Speaker 23 (53:28):
Food or whatever.

Speaker 15 (53:30):
Yeah, a little bit of cash you can.

Speaker 23 (53:32):
Still buy things and carry on and people can't thank
your every little transaction.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Yeah, that's that's right. I mean there is a incredible
like people talk about how dodgy crypto is because of
the hidden trail, but you know, cash dollars that was
very good at keeping things secret. But if you any
transaction you do digitally, then there's there's a record that
everyone everyone can see and they can follow where you're going.

(54:04):
It'd be interesting to know what happened. And during Psychlode
and Gabal when things got shut down with people with
cash were an advantage. I mean, I don't know if
I'd Andrew, if I'd back myself to get involved in
a barter situation, whether I'd have anything to barter if
everything went down, because that's the other ways to get
round of it, get around it.

Speaker 16 (54:25):
You are the gi for a while and when you're
traveling the outpat in Australia, I realize that.

Speaker 23 (54:33):
But yeah, you go out there and you get a
fuel up vehicle and on. Yeah whatever, and you always
to carry used to carry five hundred doors.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah, but in.

Speaker 23 (54:47):
This country, I think you still carry a little bit
because not that. Maybe it just because I'm getting them
an older I like to catch.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Yeah, good on you. So how much do you carry around, Andrew?
Just remergencies?

Speaker 23 (55:06):
Yeah, those little dreaminations when I'm out I'm on the
truck driver. So I just wanted an ice dream or
something like that or whatever.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Do you ever give it to? Do you ever give
it any cash to people on the side of the road,
Because I said that I do, and I'm beginning I'm
getting brutalized in the text saying I'm encouraging drug addicts
by giving people cash at the lights.

Speaker 23 (55:29):
No, I don't do that.

Speaker 9 (55:31):
Well, get that you're too high out, yeah, but no.

Speaker 23 (55:38):
I don't give with you that sort of thing. But
I will go and give people.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Good on you in a way, yeah, yeah cool, thank you,
thank you for you call Andrew. I appreciate it, so
he reckons that you still don't need a bit of
a cash, but a cash emergencies and such is the
text to see. My brother was in the Christi earthquake
and you needed cash to get through it. I give
grand heads cash on birthdays because it teaches them to

(56:10):
work out what to save and spend. And I think
there is actually something in that, the idea that if
you actually hold cash in your hands, then it kind
of means more to give it away just swiping its payWave.
You never actually experience it, But say you're buying something

(56:31):
for five hundred bucks and you hand over ten fifties,
then I think there's a more visceral experience that that
cash is leaving you. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, O eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty, we're talking about the fast
approaching cash list society. Do you approve of this? Are
you happy about it? More of your calls after the

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or zet Back to Matt Eith, thank.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You so much, Scarlett. It is what is it twenty
seven minutes to three? So Uber has said it will
take cash. Now in New Zealand, it's going to accept
some cash. Does it worry you that we have been
become so cashless a society? That is now news when
a company announces that they will take cash. Can you
imagine that just not so long ago, the idea that

(58:35):
it is? Wow, that's interesting. Uber takes cash. Are you
happy with the incoming cashless society or do you think
there's some way that we can fight back? Someone asked
me how much cash is they're out there? So apparently,
according to the Reserve Bank of New Zealand, total physical
currency is about ten point one six billion dollars. That's

(58:57):
coins out there, which is coins and banknotes. But roughly
there is roughly four hundred and forty two billion dollars
of non physical New Zealand money that exists. So ten
point one and actual folding cash and coins, but four
one hundred and forty two billion of non physical money.

(59:20):
So interesting. Thanks, quite hard to get your head around.
You fine, welcome to the show. How are you?

Speaker 24 (59:26):
I'm fine?

Speaker 6 (59:27):
A couple of points.

Speaker 9 (59:28):
I'll start off with the cash, okay, I.

Speaker 24 (59:31):
Object to the idea of going to a Castra society.
I'm one of the survivors of the crist earthquake. We
couldn't have survived in this region without cash at that time.
I also think it's wrong that the banks contract you
for every cup of coffee or andy that you buy
if you're looking through a mortgage. So I always take

(59:51):
out part of money for the week, and that's what
I spend. The bank doesn't know where and what I.

Speaker 9 (59:56):
Spend it on.

Speaker 24 (59:57):
And I think an awful lot of people are like that.
I have customers come into the shop that I work
at and they actually ask me do I accept cash?
I have the opposite of attitude. A sh will not
accept my cash. I put the goods on the counter
and walk out. I believe we should have the right
to say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
We want so are you running a Are you running
a float at this at this shop? Because that used
to be one of the most complicated things.

Speaker 15 (01:00:21):
Yeah right, yeah, running a floats not cars?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
And so your your your math might be better than
or maths, as people say, meth or math. It's probably
better than a lot of people. Because I was reading
some study were saying that from a young age, people
used to be doing a lot of equations around change
and and handing over physical cash, and that made people
quicker with their math. But now there's so little cash

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out there that that people are getting much worse at
added you know, addition and substraction in their minds. Yon,
So you're still really good at it originally.

Speaker 16 (01:00:57):
Good.

Speaker 15 (01:00:57):
Yeah, I picked my mind alert.

Speaker 24 (01:01:00):
But arithmetic, it's not the only thing that money is about. Maths, arithmetics, equations,
what if you like to call it. Anybody that bult,
anybody an engineer, doctors, they all need the science of mens.
So let's you're on the wrong track, sorry, that it's

(01:01:22):
operately to be taught to value of money, and they
can only be talk to value of that if they
have the old odds stuff for their heads, prop down
to the shops and learn to budget their poper money.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Oh good on you, Yvonne. Yeah, I mean yeah, as
I said before, there is something about physical cash in
terms of actually experiencing the money you've got worm, welcome,
the may have it going very doing, All right, very good,
thanks for calling. So you used to get the brown envelopes?
Is that correct?

Speaker 23 (01:01:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:01:52):
Yeah, I'm I'm an old man, so I can remember
the brown envelopes. So I just got a bit of
a story. I used to manage pubs years ago down
in Warrington, and what we used to find is on
a Thursday, you get jokes coming in with the brown
envelope and a couple of hours later you'd get the
phone ringing and it'll be White Sons, my husband in there,
and you'd be like, I'm not sure, what's who? Who's

(01:02:12):
your husband? And they'd tell you and you'd either have
to say yes or no. So if you said no,
you'd boost over there and you'd say, listen, mate, your
Missles was looking for you. Get home. If you said yes,
she was like, right, you need to tell him to
put his brown envelope back and he's pocket and get
home because if he doesn't come home, the kids and
I sitting here and we're waiting for dinner. Yeah, and
you'd get these sad stories quite a lot that by

(01:02:34):
the time the old feller got home, half the brown
envelope was empty, and then the family basically had nothing
for the rest of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, I mean a downside.

Speaker 19 (01:02:44):
Yeah, that was probably the main downside from the brown envelope,
that if something went a bit stray, you could blow
your packet one night, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yeah, it's funny that we all know it was a
brown envelope, So that was that was part of it.
It was it was a brown envelope and your brown
you see him.

Speaker 19 (01:03:00):
They'd walk and at five o'clock and they'd sit down
order their jug and the brown envelope would be on
the table in the pope and every time they'd pay
out comes to brown in velope.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
And I mean, you know, there's a good chance you're
just going to drop that or lose it, you know,
you know, sending it. You could just lose the money
for the wheat. You got no money for rent, no
money for the bills, no money for food.

Speaker 19 (01:03:22):
All gone on one hurt mate. You don't even know
what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
You know. Yeah, So in that regard, it looks so common.
So in that regard, when would you say that that
the move to digital has been a positive overall?

Speaker 19 (01:03:36):
Wow, Not everyone's got the same issues, you know, Like,
not everyone's going to blow their brown invelopt.

Speaker 8 (01:03:40):
In one minute.

Speaker 19 (01:03:41):
But you know you've sort of you've got to cover
against that a little bit. I suppose you know, you've
got mom at home with the kids, and she knows
that dead brown envelope when he's out that you're running
around god knows where. Yeah, and how much of the
envelope is going to be there when he comes home?

Speaker 21 (01:03:57):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:03:57):
So did you sad?

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
But you it's just except accept checks, because that's another
thing that people quite can't quite believe. You used to exist.
Just about people. You'd say, I don't have any money
on me right now, but if you take for.

Speaker 19 (01:04:09):
Fifty dollars, you give me a fifty dollars check, I'll
give you a fifty dollars tab and you can sudden
and drink fifty dollars with a piss.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Yeah, you know, that was pretty normal.

Speaker 19 (01:04:17):
It was very normal, mate, Beck. Where I eased to work,
we see a lot of semen coming in and that
sertly a crayfish for a couple of jugs. They were
a little bag of power.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:04:28):
Someone come off the ferry and yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Crayfish for a couple of jugs.

Speaker 19 (01:04:31):
Pretty good deal, yeah too, right, Yeah here crayfish, a
couple of powers and yeah here's your jagger beer.

Speaker 13 (01:04:37):
Thanks very much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Good on your worm. So, but I mean, I guess
people can just spend them. You know, if someone's going
to spend their money, doesn't matter if it's in a
brown envelope or not. I mean they can run up
a mess of credit card bill now they can. You know,
if someone's going to get rid of their money, they're
going to give it to their money, right Worm.

Speaker 19 (01:04:51):
Yeah, mate, Well I've seen the other side of it.
I've seen Jake's come and if pass five hundred, going
to the poke room, come out, if poss another two hundred,
and then they win a thousand, and you pay them
out a thousand, and then they come back half an
hour later and say, can you call me your taxi?
And I need ten dollars for the taxis right? That's
the preci don't They've done the dough. That's the limit

(01:05:11):
that they can get out on their card. And then
they have won and then they puts that a whole
lot back and the game with nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Man, that's said, thank you for your call, Worm eight
hundred eighty ten eighty, A great name, by the way,
Thanks Worm, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Are you happy
happy with the incoming cashless society? Because Uber might be
changing their policy, but that's that's just a very small
push in one direction with a wave going in the

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Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Sa'd be it's seventeen to three. We're talking about cash?
Do we still need it? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Can you ask Worm how he got his nickname? Are
you still listening Worm? I'll be interested. It's a great nickname.
I'll be interested to know how you got your nickname
as well. Uh, Matt, what about strip clubs? What are

(01:06:12):
they going to do without cash? Well, look, I'm not
a huge expert, but the system that is sometimes run
in those establishments is that you have to get their
particular cash from their particular venue, and you know, those
dollars can end up in your pockets and then someone
can ask you where what are you doing with these

(01:06:33):
dollars in your pockets later on? So that they're they're
the cashless society, is that they're running their own currency
and a lot of these these these strip clubs, Okay,
all right, Aaron, Welcome to the show, Matte.

Speaker 25 (01:06:46):
How are you good, mate?

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Good your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Hey, So, just want to throw a couple of things
at you as to why I think game cash List
is incredibly dangerous. One is it's obviously disasters have been
pointed out, which never a good thing, but they tend
not to last that long, so it does come back
relatively quickly, so that we've survived those. But you'll probably
not the Carrington effect, which happened in like, I don't know,

(01:07:12):
eighteen sixties or something or eighteen eighties when all the
telegraph wires never think caught fire. So that's a solar
event that happens. There will be more because they've been
there will be more next time it happens. The entire
banking systems globally will be fried. Well most likely the
modeling is they'll all get fried. Computers we fried, and

(01:07:33):
they will be months to years to rebuild because the
damage can potentially be so great. That's from a solar flare.
So that's all electronics. And you're dislike, if AI will
be will be we'll be wiped out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
So that's a positive.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
So yeah, exactly, so that and I agree with you
on that one, and so that's why that's one and
why every country should have a particular sized cash reserve
in case of the major event like that. And it's
not a case of it's a case of when, and
it could might not even be in our lifetime, but
it will happen again. So that's one. The other one

(01:08:14):
there's gangs. People go, oh, there's a great way to
stop gangs getting money and stuff like that, but gangs
have been around for it and will be around forever.
So just someone needs to do the work on how
they think they're going to get money and do transactions
if there's no cash, And that could be incredibly dangerous
because that means that they now have to kidnap people

(01:08:36):
and make them do bank transfers and all sorts, and
it's going to be quite painful to talk someone into that,
and that's what will happen. Yeah, someone needs to work
around that of how dangerous that could get. So it's
easier to have a system like cash where those other
behaviors occurved because you can just pay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
There always someone, there's always unforeseen circumstances in there. Because
I never would have thought of that that of course,
you know, obviously they're not going to put their transactions
out there so people can see, so they'll enter another
system to get to get it done. Yeah, I mean
that's a very interesting point.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Eric, And we have to look at what that could
be and how bad that could get. So you kind
of go, well, maybe we are better off of cash
and then now and then when there's the big grades,
they do the siezures, so on and so forth a
lot easier. And then the third one is you just
think if you're in charge of a country which got
plenty of nerds, like China, Russia or whatever, do you
not think that you are employing people that get caught,

(01:09:31):
you know, hacking computers and all that sort of thing,
to be ready that when you go to war with
another country, you'll collapse their banking system by using the
best nerds in the world to do that as a job.
So if we think that we're completely and so some
countries that may into war and stuff like that will

(01:09:51):
have that up their sleeve as a weapon, because nothing
would cause chaos in a country and drag them out
of a war like collapsing their banking system.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Yeah, I mean that is quite auling. It's quite a
terrifying thing. Your entire work and your entire worth is
all just some numbers, just some numbers that are sitting there.
You know, you look them up on your app, but
they're stored somewhere. I mean, that's kind of a terrifying thing,
isn't it? But what do you reckon?

Speaker 13 (01:10:17):
Aaron?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Should should it be as some people want, tied tied
back to gold like it was, because in the end,
you know, a piece of paper isn't worth anything unless
we deem it to be worth something. If you see
what I'm saying, So you could have a fifty dollars
note if everything turns to crap, that is only worth
something if everyone agrees it's worth something.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Yes, one hundred percent. And that's why all your banking
systems should be tied to gold or something else that's tangible.
And of course the gold plasting goes up to as
inflict whatever to counter that, but you absolutely have to
have that. And that's why all the fake currencies, and
you know, online currencies are incredibly dangerous as well, because

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they're not tied to anything, so they don't actually mean anything.
And so the current banking system we have is a
really good one. I don't agree with the interest rates.
The system itself is really good and has kept the
world going, and you can get chaos if you don't
have it. So absolutely you need structure, and it would
be very very dangerous to move away from having at

(01:11:22):
least a backup currency that you have one that still exists.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Thank you, Aaron, you've obviously thought this through, so thank
you so much for your thoughts on that this Texas says.
Won't anyone please think of the poor old tooth theory?
That's very good question. How is the tooth fury running
these days? Because you know, the tooth theory has to
operate in secrecy, so they can't you know, they can't

(01:11:46):
flutter in with a remote f poss machine. We're talking
about cashless society. Look, it seems like it's coming. You know,
we're going to be able to fight it off for
a little bit. And Uber's accepting cash now, which is
a little bit exciting. But how do you feel about it?
How do you feel about the incoming cashless society? Undred eight?

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to be coming. Nick, welcome to the show. Oh good eye,
there you go, very good mate. What do you reckon?

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
Good?

Speaker 13 (01:12:38):
Well, the previous caller practically took all of my all
of the window out of missiles. It was pretty much
what I was going to say. What a brilliant and
I encourage everyone to get their heads around what he
just said. Excellent, Well, just hit a couple of things.
Am I supposed to pay my kids for mowing the

(01:12:59):
Lord's Do they have to get an F posscard?

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Are they?

Speaker 13 (01:13:03):
Are they going to play GSD on that my eight
year old for mowing?

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
The law and.

Speaker 13 (01:13:09):
The tooth theories another good, good analogy to use. How
are we going to play them?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Well, next, someone sticks it in Walk six and and
said that the tooth theory is now getting paid with
Lolly's and chocolate under the pillow, which I think is
not in the spirit of the tooth. That's not in
the spirit of the tooth theory.

Speaker 13 (01:13:27):
Absolutely absolutely not. Sounds like there was a political motivation
behind that anyway. What I will say, and I mean
this is I'm going to go another level deeper than
the question being asked. I'll just throw out there something
with regard to the brown envelope, which I can remember.

(01:13:51):
I'm well into my fifties now I can remember that
has long gone. No one's going home with a brown envelope,
So that's a bit of a mute subject going to
the pub with.

Speaker 20 (01:14:03):
Your envelope with cash.

Speaker 13 (01:14:04):
I mean you can do just the same with a
S posscard or whatever. What I would encourage, and I'd
love to get an audience in Parliament with regard to
this is has anyone out there other than me read
Modern Money Mechanics, The Foundation the Founding Documents to the

(01:14:27):
Modern Monetary System? Now I asked that to practically every
banker I meet. It's not really fair to put that
on the tellers, but I've asked a few managers of
they aware of that book. No one I've ever met

(01:14:47):
has actually read it, which is I've read lately discouraged me.

Speaker 19 (01:14:51):
No, Well, there you go.

Speaker 13 (01:14:53):
I would recommend everyone reads it because that'll give you
a good insight into what the Ponzi scheme, and I
choose my words carefully.

Speaker 16 (01:15:02):
It is.

Speaker 13 (01:15:04):
I'd say. Another thing I'll add is does anyone out
there other than me in the Minister of Finance potentially
understand how wealth is created out of thin air through
promissory notes? That that might be a little bit heavy
for most, but i'd encourage you to get your head

(01:15:25):
around it. It's created out of thin air, out of nothing.
Something else I add is the Reserve Bank of New
Zealand has no reserves. A good point with regard to
the gold as well, bring back the gold standard. And
what was the other thing I was gonna mention, Oh,

(01:15:50):
it's lost me now. I just think.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
You always the name of the book that you think
everyone should read, Modern.

Speaker 13 (01:15:57):
Line of Marien, Modern money mechanics. It's been around forever
and you need and basically, it's like I said, the
foul thing document with regard to the modern finance system.
It's kind of heavy reading. But it's supposed to be
heavy reading because it discourages most people from ever looking

(01:16:21):
at it because it's just a It's like accounting in
the in the most place, very simple adding and subtracting,
but they make it so complicated that it discourages most
people even getting their head around it. If we did
all get financial literacy, we would immediately revolt because it

(01:16:46):
is brutal when you actually understand how the current financial
system works and how wealth and money is created out
of finny it through created on your signature, through lending.
It is just I've chosen the worst. It's repulsive.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Wow, Okay, well I'll look a little bit more into that.
Thank you so much for your corn. Sometimes I say
really stupid things and I realized as someone's the people
are talking about, that's not how the tooth theory works.
The tooth fury buys the teeth with money, so the
tooth theory doesn't have to turn up with anyth machine.
The tooth three just tends to go to an ATM
on the way to the family. Hey, we'll keep this

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Allen takes over the number of eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. And we're talking about cash. So uber has
said it will take cash now in New Zealand, So
it'll accept cash in the cars. Now does it worry
you that we have become so cashless as a society

(01:18:27):
that now when a company announces that they will take cash,
which would have been completely and utterly standard until very recently,
when they announced that they will accept cash, they advertise
it and it's worthy of comment. It's kind of complicated
how they'll take it. You can look into their terms
and conditions and all that kind of stuff. But this

(01:18:50):
text doesn't care, doesn't care about cash disappearing from society.
They say, oh wow, get with the future. No one
needs a bit of paper and some metal in their pocket.
Do you also write letters instead of send emails? Do
you send telegrams instead of teen Do you ride a

(01:19:11):
handsome cab to work with a horse, don't commit crimes
and don't scam the id, and you don't need cash.
The future is coming, whether you like it or not.
Do you agree with that? One hundred eighty ten eighty
I think things are going to get more cashless. I mean,

(01:19:33):
I can't see what kind of turnaround could possibly happen
where where cash makes a massive comeback. As I say before,
there's ten about ten billion of physical New Zealand dollars
and coins out there in circulation, but there's four hundred
and forty odd billion dollars of New Zealand's non physical money.

(01:19:56):
If it was so, it's already incredibly weighted towards the digital.
But what do you think? Is there anyone to bring
it back? And do you care? One hundred eighty ten
eighty j Good afternoon, Thursday? How I am you do?

Speaker 5 (01:20:11):
Yeah? Good things.

Speaker 25 (01:20:13):
The sole concept of a casha society has been predicted
and talked about for decades, if not longer, and now
we're in an age of this digital age of AI
and everything. There's a deep concern about central bank digital currencies,
which are absolutely inevitable and have been talked about extensively
in government, and what that will be tied directly to

(01:20:37):
digital currency and what that can central bank digital currency
to so advanced they can track what you buy when
you buy it, we you buy it completely trackable and
can be switched off remotely, which is credible and a
course for deep concern because we can't always guarantee that

(01:20:58):
we will have a government that isn't somewhat totalitarian. Like
if you look at China, for example, they have the
social credit system. Well, we're already introducing elements in New
Zealand of the ESG score, which applies mainly to corporates,
but they get a particular score depending on their performance
regarding a whole prescribed range of criteria like climate change initiatives,

(01:21:23):
rainbow techs, you name it. And these are very much
in effect, and these are directives that are coming from
the World Economic Forum, the United Nations. So what you know,
you've even got smart cities and all that sort of stuff.
And it's not conspiratorial, it's conspiratorial fact. And for many
people like me who are Christians, the Bibles talks about

(01:21:46):
a time when you will no longer be able to
buy and sell unless you have a particular identification in
Revelation thirteen eighteen to nineteen that you will literally not
be able to buy or sell unless you have that ID. Now,
how on earth could anybody over two thousand years ago
possibly comprehend in the absence of computer as a form

(01:22:09):
of barter or exchange that required no transfer of any
physical currency or anything else. It was, you know, thousands
of years before the advent of anything digital, completely outside
the realm of anybody's concept of reality. Back Glen and
I would just encourage people to look deeply into this

(01:22:31):
because it really does confirm the truth of what the
Bible says prophetically about our very near future.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
Yeah, I guess things have changed a lot in terms
of currency in the Bible. You know, the shekel is
not around anymore, so things have moved on a lot,
a lot from that. What's what? What did what did
Jesus say about taxes? What was that thing give unto Caesar?

Speaker 25 (01:22:55):
What is his yeah, render under seas? And what is
his so?

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Which was that was a pretty clever retort from Jesus
to some people that were trying to stitch them up
for I guess tax evasion, wasn't it?

Speaker 25 (01:23:09):
It was a great thing about Jesus.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
It was a truly brilliant comeback. You know. You turn
that over and I'm not quoting exactly, but turn that
coin over, and whose faces on it? We'll give un
to Caesar? What is Caesars or what? As you said,
it was a great comment. But the point that you make,
and you say it's not conspiratorial, but I mean, when
we accept that someone has done something wrong, it already happens.

(01:23:36):
Like no one complains when Russian oligarchs have had their
money frozen and assets topped taken off them, right, the
US quickly froze the assets of a nation, you know,
when the Ukraine War first kicked off. So it does happen,
doesn't it. It just depends which side you were on, you know,

(01:23:58):
if you're suddenly deemed to be the bad guy for
whatever reason. And we can't always depend on governments that
that honorable. It is concerning as setting that they could
just go well, that person no longer has any money
to operate well.

Speaker 25 (01:24:13):
A great example of that is in Canada during COVID.
You may remember that huge truck of protest where they
clogged up all the motorways in absolute rejection of all
the totalitarian rules that have been brought out, and I
absolutely supported them at the time. But the thing is
in a supposedly democratic country like Canada, which should be

(01:24:35):
a warning to us all they froze their bank accounts.
So just because we live in little old New Zealand,
we think everything's going to be fine. But an actual fact,
Chris Luxon and in fact Chris Hipkins are very much involved,
whether they admit it or not, and it's easy to
find out with research. Mark Mitchell worked for the World

(01:24:58):
Economic Forum. Chris Luxon was heavily involved with the World
Economic Forum in New Zealand. He lied about it on
radio when he was asked about it by a caller
and quickly changed the subject. He was definitely lying that
he said he had no knowledge of it, even though
he had previous involved with him. So what I'm saying
is these people are making all of these decisions that,
on the face of that don't make any sense, like

(01:25:19):
cutting off our energy and dependence, cutting oil and gas,
all this ridiculous economic sabotage. It makes so little sense
what successive governments have done economically and so forth, that
you have to ask a very relevant question why are
they doing it? There must be something far deeper going on,
and I believe that they are simply operating according to

(01:25:40):
the orders of people far higher up the food chain
than them.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Well, Jay, there's a lot to digest right there. So
do you agree with Jay? Is this part of a
much bigger thing than just convenience? And you know, we
start this chat on, you know, talking about the Uber decisions,
so you know, if we want to ground it back
and that are you an Uber driver and are you
looking forward to dealing with cash? Is that something that's

(01:26:07):
a positive in your business? I'd be interested in that. Yeah.
And a lot of people are are pointing out that
shekels is the currency of Israel today, So but you know,
I mean a very different situation, wasn't it. But yeah,
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the incoming cash
list society. Do you think it is incoming? Do you

(01:26:28):
think cash will survive this? To call eight hundred eighty
ten eighty News Talks, it'd be eighteen pass three. So
Uber has taken cash? Is that a good sign? And
we're moving back towards cash? Have we become too dependent
on phones and cards and digital currencies? What's going on?
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Andrea, how are you doing that?

Speaker 26 (01:26:51):
How you go on?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
God? Thanks for calling.

Speaker 26 (01:26:55):
I just thought i'd let you know that New Zealand's
First Party has got a member's bill in Parliament. It's
called the Cash Transaction Protection Bill. Okay, so they are
wanting to keep cash. So there we are. It's still
legal tender. And I'm the same as one of your
other callers. If I go in somewhere and they won't

(01:27:16):
accept cash, I walk out. It's legal tender.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
And is that causing you many problems?

Speaker 26 (01:27:26):
Yeah, there have been a few different at different places.
I think in the airport I was flying down to
flying out Stuart Island and a cup of tea place
that the airport wouldn't take cash, and I just stood
there and had the cash on the counter and they
eventually took it. It's just crazy, but you legal tender.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
But obviously a lot of your money, Andrea, is digital now.
So I'm sure the money that comes into your account
and your bills and such are paid digitally. Is that correct?

Speaker 25 (01:28:00):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (01:28:00):
Yes, yes, some I do. And that's very convenient because
of course, a lot of these companies if you pay
by cash. You were charged extra, so you know you're
not wanting to although not wanting you to use cash.
But if I go in for a cup of coffee,
or I go into buy a pair of shows or whatever,

(01:28:21):
and I want to pay cash, if they don't take it,
I walk out. So and the other thing too is
that I don't want the bank to know that I
go to the doctor. This often the dentist stand off,
and the supermarket that often, or the liquor land that often.
It's not their business, it's mine.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yes, I'm just looking at the Cash Transaction Protection Bill,
a member's bill from Jamie apack or. It is aimed
to stop New Zealand drifting into full cash list economy.
So the key points businesses in trade would have to
accept cash for goods and services with up to five
hundred dollars. They would not be allowed to charge a
person extra just because they're paying in cash, and for
central goods and services food, water, fuel, health services, utilities,

(01:29:02):
telecom since such cash would have to be accepted regardless
of the value where the vendor receives Crown or local
authority support.

Speaker 26 (01:29:10):
Well, yeah, so I think it's a good son.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Yeah yeah, Well good on you, Andrew, Thank you Andrea,
thanks for calling. Hi, Matt. The banks love digital transactions
because every time a dollar is transacted they can take
a small percentage as profit. Every time a dollar has
moved from one person to another, it is depleted by
the bankers profit. Conversely, if I give a cash dollar
to someone and then they give that same cash dollar

(01:29:34):
to another person, it's still a cash dollar. It's not
ninety cents. For example, keep the cash as an option.
I say, thanks, Phil, what do you think? Eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. It is twenty one minutes past three.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Welcome to the show. Greg. What do you think about
cash list society?

Speaker 25 (01:30:05):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Good a Matt.

Speaker 22 (01:30:07):
Yeah, Look, we we need to be keeping some cash around.
I'd like to put a civil defense or a defense
lens on this. So when we're planning for events, we
talk about high frequency, low impact, moving up a scale
to very high impact but low frequency. So at the

(01:30:33):
bottom end you've got like floods that we're experiencing at
the moment, they may not the banking system out locally.
If we move up the scale, probably the sort of
the golden limit right at the top would be one
of the solar fares that one of your earlier, earlier

(01:30:54):
callers was talking about. But there is also a man
made version of that called an EMP, which is a
kind of nuclear blast used militarily obviously, where nobody dies
of radiation, no buildings are flattened, but every device underneath

(01:31:15):
that blast gets a tiny lightning bolt. So that means
that if someone nasty were to detonate one bomb above
any Pacific country, shall we say, basically, most mobile phones
would be fried. The power grid would go down for

(01:31:37):
months to even a year, because that's how long it
would take to repair. Most electric vehicles would be fried.
Probably newer petrol vehicles even would be fried. So that's
almost how to win a war in one blow.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Do you think of that kind of circumstance? Grig though,
if we're talking about cash, if the societies would break
down such a such a phenomenal and horrible way in
that situation that people would even would even ignore knowledge,
Let's say a fifty dollar note was worth anything at
that point, well, on.

Speaker 22 (01:32:14):
On the ground, I mean, people would still be growing,
would still be growing. They'd still be moving, probably in
diesel vehicles, which tend to be immune to that high
level event that I'm talking about, okay, and we'd be
carrying on as best we could. But I mean, again
that's at the top of the scale. But I mean, look,

(01:32:34):
if we move down that matrix, like down to like
local flooding, you know that the banking system is vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
M yeah, I mean that is terrifying. As I was
saying before that it's just numbers and apps and numbers
and programs and stored and you know, even across the chain.
It's just it's just as good as the technology, which
is a little bit terrifying, isn't it. Especially it is
who has power over it as well well.

Speaker 22 (01:33:05):
I mean I personally hold both gold and silver, and
I keep a stash of cash, you know, in case
some in case things are like go out for a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Well think if you call Greg appreciates it and Craig
your thoughts.

Speaker 21 (01:33:21):
On this, alis And I think it's really dangerous. I
don't think it will happen. I think society will fight
back and up to stop it happening. It's all about control,
it's all about control of humanity and if you go
if you don't have a commodity. Now, cash is a
promissory note. There's a reason why gold's going up through

(01:33:44):
the roofs and silver's high and that kind of thing,
because people are preparing just in case it does happen.
You've got to have something to be able to trade
a commodity.

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
But do you think it's odd that because I often
think about this gold's nice, that shiny silver is this
and that. But you know it does have some functions. Obviously,
you know golds and a lot of electronics and silver
has its functions. But are you sure or that in
a broken down society, people are going to want you
want your gold.

Speaker 21 (01:34:13):
There's a a's a trading commodity. You know, you melt
you tech gold on fire and you've still got your gold.
Any promisary notes you you've gloss it. Numbers on a
computer can be there's always someone that can control that
computer and you don't have full control. As someone said,

(01:34:36):
you know rogue regimes and that there's always going to
have to be a trading commodity out there. Yeah, and
well whatever, there's been gold and silver.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
And there's been different ones though I was reading recently
about early on in the United States they were trying
to use tobacco as the currency. But then it got
very complicated because you couldn't decide the quality of it. Right. So,
you know, one thing that gold has is it's very
easy to define the exact quality of it and the
value of it, whereas other commodities like seashells or whatever.
How do you how do you how do you restrict

(01:35:10):
the growth of it, and how do you divide decide
how much value it has?

Speaker 21 (01:35:15):
Yeah, no, that's that's exactly right. But the only reason
you know, I went.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
I went with a.

Speaker 21 (01:35:21):
Mate that when paid cash for a sparfle. And when
he said that, when he told them he was paying
cash and he arrived at the shop, the first thing
the lady said was, oh, here's my criminals.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Yeah, yeah, anyone.

Speaker 21 (01:35:36):
That's got cash now, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Yeah, that's yeah. And the and yet they might be just.

Speaker 21 (01:35:45):
It's quite legit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:35:47):
He had sold his car and he kept that he
was got cash for his car and he bought a sparfle.
I got a survey from the BNS Bank. A couple
of years ago. I got a small business and there
was a questionnaire and I thought it was a scan,
so I phoned up the bank nature, No, it's legit,
and I said, well, I don't want to pull this out,
na suid. If you don't, we'll close your accounts. Being said,

(01:36:11):
and it was all about do you receive cash? Right,
most people that got that survey would have said no, yeah, yes,
I do receive cash. How much do you receive? Receive
one hundred thousands of cash? Well, you know, you know,

(01:36:33):
but they're wording things to deliberately get rid of cash.
And it is all about control. And we don't have
a trading commodity or that promissary nos and our and
to be able to.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Thank you so so much for you call Craig. So
we've just got to go because the news headlines are
coming up. So just to finish this topic off, I
just I've loved it. I could keep going for a
much longer. Thank you so much for your calls and text.
But Uber has said it will take cash now in
New Zealand. This seems like a small push against the
huge tide against cash, and judging from so many of
you call and text, a lot of people don't like this.
They don't like that handing over of control to the country,

(01:37:13):
the governments, the bank. So let's see what happens going
forward if people will actually push back. But the thing
is convenience is a powerful motivation. People might just throw
it all away because it's a bit of a pain
to use. Tax lose use cash. Time will tell ah.
But it is thirty one past three. Coming up after

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Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
You, Scarlett, and we're going live to Wellington right now.
To Elliott Smith, New Zealand's z B Voice of Rugby
News Talk zb's Voice of Rugby. Is that your official
title or you New Zealand's Voice of Rugby? Would you
take that claim, Elliott.

Speaker 14 (01:39:20):
I'll take I'll answer whatever you want to throw at me.
Matt last Noon.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
So the global the universal voice of rugby worldwide. So
the team has been announced, Elliott. Any surprises, Yeah, a
few surprises, Matt.

Speaker 14 (01:39:34):
In the last what five minutes, the officially announced that
the team for this weekend five changes to the run
on side. So just to run you through them. Lomax
comes in at tiedym prop to provide. Locke Will was
the Ted at blind so Flank and Leroy Carter are
on the left wing, Billy propped at center. So five
changes from the team that won last week in christ Church.

(01:39:58):
I think we expected that Dave Renny would make a
few changes. It feels like maybe he could have even
made it apposed a few more, a couple of debutantes
potentially on the bench too, and Signa and Josh Morby.
But by and large he stuck with the skeleton of
the team that beat France in christ Church and trusted
some of those players in the key positions again to

(01:40:20):
deliver against this Italian side.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
So Artie is still there. We thought he might be
need a break after going hard for eighteen odd months.

Speaker 14 (01:40:28):
Yeah, we thought so, absolutely, and there was a bit
of speculation and he may even missed his holder.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Welp, are you there, are you there? We've just lost
you briefly. Global Voice of rugby, Elliott Smith, no voice,
Are you back? You're back? Yeah, I'm back yep. So see,
the last thing, last time we were here in Wellington,
the last thing we heard from you is that we
thought Artie might take the whole, the whole tour off.

Speaker 5 (01:40:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:40:59):
Absolutely, that was a possibility earlier in the year that
he had, as you said, played eighteen months of rugby,
but didn't quite happen. And this felt like a natural
game where maybe they could have sat and mount and
rotated some of the loose forwards around. But regardless, he's
going to be there, and probably for the best, given
they're trying to bet in some of these new instructions,
new things in the team, new leadership. It makes sense

(01:41:20):
for Ardie Savia to play there, but at some point
he is going to need a breather and it certainly
would be unlikely to come next week against the Irish,
but they've stuck with him. They've started with Louke Jacobson
an open side flanker, and Wallace at Ted come again
on the blind side flank. So I guess as Dave,
and he continues to get this team under his belt
and get where he wants to be it's probably the

(01:41:42):
right thing that the captain has been has been put in.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
I mean they probably would have been where you know,
you become the captain and then play a game, then
take a break. Does it rely have any chance at all?

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
Elliott?

Speaker 14 (01:41:53):
Well, based on what I saw from the last week
against Japan, not really highly disappointing against the Japan side
in Tokyo last week. I thought they were a decent
shot of winning that game, but we were just really
poor on both sides of the ball boor defense, attack
looked unstructured and have any idea what they wanted to

(01:42:13):
do with it was a shadow of the team that
performed really well and this year's Six Nations and put
the Frighteners up some of the best teams. So all
right to Auckland and beyond. Yeah and yeah, I'm not
sure whether they are capable of tipping up this all
black side who did look good in patches last week, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Yeah. And just just a quick technical question, so why
is the What was fantastic was the lack of box
kicks in christ Church? So is that a thing now?
Is something changed where a box kick is not so
attractive as an option? Well, there's a defense.

Speaker 14 (01:42:48):
That's attacking structure from the All Blacks under Mike Blair
and Dave Renny that they want to use the ball
in hands. And while the Test rugby sort of gone
to that systems of very much attack focus, they're trying
to push back against the grain against some of the
other nations in the world. They might have to kick
a little bit more, but the first instant is going
to be to keep ball in hand and I think

(01:43:08):
that's what we as fans in New Zealand want to see.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Yeah, all right, thank you so much, Elliot Smith. News
Talk ZEDB Voice of Rugby and commentary will be on
News Talk ZEDB from four pm on Saturday, so tune in.
Thanks Elliott. Up next, we're going to talk to Dean
McLoughlin from the ZB Sports desk about the upcoming FIFA
World Cup excitement in the weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Have a chat with the lads on eight ten eighty
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons News Talk zed B.

Speaker 2 (01:43:41):
It is eighteen minutes to four on a Thursday afternoon
from the from the sports desk. From the ZEDB Sports
desks we have Dean McLaughlin and Luck It is the
pointy end of the FIFA World Cup. It's exciting, although
it's disappointing there's just not games on constantly.

Speaker 27 (01:44:00):
It is like today, I've been having withdrawal symptoms. It's
starting to get a little bit freaky. I might have
to go to YouTube and watch them highlights.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Yeah, so what are the fixtures this week?

Speaker 27 (01:44:09):
Look, we've got France and Morocco tomorrow morning, that's at
eight o'clock. Viewer friendly as that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:44:15):
Then on Saturday we've got Spain playing Belgium at seven am. Again,
get the breakfast cranked up someday features and this is
the big one, I think, and most people's calend at
Norway playing England. Yes, nine o'clock, it's even more of
a sleep and thanks for coming. And then later that
day we've got a one o'clock match between Argentina and Switzerland.

(01:44:37):
And as you can tell, a lot of European nations
still in at six in fact, just Morocco flying the
African flag. They're trying to Moroccan roll there, and Argentina
are representing the Americas against Switzerland.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
So England, you know, I've supported England and every World
Cup and you know it's often been incredibly disappointing and
they've turned up and they've had a whole lot of
hope and they've been stuck in the mud. But this
feels like a bit of a different England this time around.

Speaker 27 (01:45:07):
Look it does. There was something absolutely inspirational and courageous
about the performance the other day. I mean, have we
ever seen an England team be so united, so defiant.
They seem to have found an edge with Harry Kane

(01:45:28):
driving it. Yes, and you you played his comments after
the game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
He can hardly talk.

Speaker 27 (01:45:34):
Oh my gosh, I'm struggling.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
I think we've got those I think we've got them here.
Well we'll bring that up, sounding like a muppet, yeah, support.

Speaker 4 (01:45:44):
A speechless Yeah, Jordan, my place is gone. We had
to fight it. We had to fight something.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
It's a captain given everything. He's been yelling a lot
at the team. You know, he's one hundred percent. He's
a heroic leader.

Speaker 27 (01:45:59):
It is hopefully his voice come back to it on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
But you know that the on the other side for Norway,
we have just the absolute sensation that is early in
Harland and he's not the captain, but it does. It's
kind of like They're the Viking warrior versus the English
English King. Isn't it interesting?

Speaker 27 (01:46:20):
You should raise that because with my boys and a
lot of the people that I'm talking about talking to
these days, they get them behind the superstars and so
they sort of follow their nations as well. That's why
I think it's going to be very interesting this Norwegian
versus England because there's so many people want England to win.
But then you go, Earling's my favorite player, So I'm

(01:46:41):
I'll be more than happy if Norway do the Bizzo
or Messy's my favorite player. Let's getting behind teaming.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder if that's the sort of social
media age situation, you know, because you follow the individual counts.

Speaker 27 (01:46:52):
That's right, you follow Giannists to me, Miami, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
I was saying before that I cannot you know, my
entire feed is just the striking Viking. It's just it's
just absolutely.

Speaker 27 (01:47:04):
He is a specimen. What's going to happen to that
Viking row?

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
If England should beat them, and you know, in terms
of rankings in the world and sizes of nations, then
you'd think England should be able to do it. But
you know, Norway have slayed some dragons, haven't they Brazil
for example. But yeah, if they do, they mind sinking
into the ocean, sinking.

Speaker 27 (01:47:26):
Leaving the sinking shit. I quite like that.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Not all as well?

Speaker 27 (01:47:30):
That ends well, no, it's not so France, Morocco. Who
are you picking France? They're just such quality. I mean,
this was a semi final at the last World Cup.
It's a quarter final this time around. That France, my gosh,
they're attacking end.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Is just so good.

Speaker 27 (01:47:46):
Spain Belgium again, Spain one of the pre match favorites.
You'd like to think that they'll keep going, but Belgium
have been fired up by you know, the Donald Trump
sort of getting at them.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
During the week.

Speaker 27 (01:47:59):
So man, now that Tyler Adams is out of the
World Cup, with that USA, maybe you'll come home. Belgium
could surprise because they just again they found a competitive
edge that was lacking before. Then the oldies and Norway
versus England. Yeah, moving on Argentina versus Switzerland. I don't

(01:48:19):
really want to put my head on that one. I
would be happy either way, but there's something telling me that,
come on, let's get on that England bandwagon. Because of
it all falls apart for Arthur Faery in the Wimbledon campaign,
they can get them behind England.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Well, no one's really giving Switzerland a chance, but they're
pretty good. So Argentina Switzerland.

Speaker 27 (01:48:39):
Yeah, metronomic that could be the case. And I mean
Argentina have had a hand up in recent weeks. The
referees Egypt will tell you they deserve to be there. Argentina.
But my gosh, with Messy in such great form, I mean,
this is incredible that we are talking World Cup with
such Further on the time where the All Blacks are

(01:49:00):
about to be named, you know, we're rugby, rugby, rugby
and the World Cup stools finding its spot here in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Yeah, I'm I mean, how does this how does this
World Cup tournaments?

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
For you, I mean coming into it, there was the
usual things where they think, you know where there's these
complaints and everyone's sort of talks down the Cup for
a while. But I feel like the coverage has been incredible.
The stadium has been amazing. There's been a lot of controversy,
there's been a good amount of upsets as well. I
think so far it's been an incredible World Cup.

Speaker 27 (01:49:31):
It has from all those aspects. I think the accessibility,
I don't think we've ever had a World Cup being
so accessible, and that's free to wear television for you too,
and just the price point that TVNZ put on fantastic.
That pass was incredible. So yeah, they deserve all the
thousands and thousands of people rocking up buying that pass
that they've got, and they've really got into it from

(01:49:55):
breakfast television through to the news and whatnot, and I
think that's had a knock on effect and they're being
so you know, we're a multicultural society these days, so
you see the Brazilians over here getting in behind your team,
and Argentinian and and Asian teams and a lot of English.
So yeah, I think it's still gonna resonate with us

(01:50:16):
for the final week and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, as you said before, though, it's
like it's so it's like when the Olympics are on,
you just feel or any World Cups on is so
so such a great time and you think, oh, it's
only around every four years, so you have to you
have to embrace it when it's here, yes, because it
goes away stuck.

Speaker 27 (01:50:35):
In the studio here while the news room has been
going off. I've been surprised by the number of people
that are taking part in sweepstakes, writing predictions on the board,
and just getting into the games themselves. It's been amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
All right, thank you so much. Oh okay, it's finished.
It all off? Who's going to win? Who's gonna win?
The whole thing?

Speaker 27 (01:50:54):
France?

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
France? Can you see? Can you see France England Final?

Speaker 27 (01:51:00):
No, I can see France and Argentina again. I think
it's you know, the that battle resumes, hopefully with good
officiating and no drama except what's happening on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
Yeah, all right, thanks so much. Deana Gootlin from the
ZB sports desk. So France, Morocco, Saturday, Spain, Belgium, also Saturday,
Nouay versus England Sunday at nine am in Argentina, Switzerland
at one pm on Sunday afternoon. How good you look
listening to news Talks here? But it is ten minutes
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Speaker 1 (01:51:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
You are listen to news Talks a B at eight
minutes to four. I'm Matt Heath, and the six says,
don't talk soccer. We are a rugby country, okay, so
I'll read the six out. We are going to the
game on Saturday, says is text out. And my kid's
favorite players are d mac and Leroy Carter. They are stoked.
They are playing Josh from Tawa Wellington. So there you go.

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But this Texas is rugby is a minority sport. Why
did you spend so much time in it while it's
sold If it's a minority sport, it's both sold out
the cake tin and sold out christch didn't it and
we'll sell out Eden Park, So it's not that much
of a minority sport, Hey Matt. Pretty much everyone I
know don't want England to win, nor I we'll have
more support than England and New Zealand at least. I

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don't know about that. I don't know about the support
of England runs deep. But this like this text here Ingerland, Ingerland, Ingerland,
France can play England in the final, says this texter.
So England England. And then from this texture, Arie Kane
is king him uppet says this texter, So there you go.

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But look, as I was saying in the show earlier,
the sort of the heightful Norway is phenomenal. And they're
a country of about the same size of New Zealand.
They've got fjords everywhere, and look that's I'm not sure
if this is everywhere, but Man's to Feed is just
full of the song. It's the Man City and that's

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howing happened. I think that is moving people that are
sitting on the fence from England to Norway. I mean,
he's just so lovable, six foot five, striking Viking Earlin
Harlan's he's already scored seven goals. He's just he's the
god of thunder Thor meets Loki, the god of chaos.

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He's just such a fun guy. And that's what's so
gutting about the whole kind of thing, as what's so
getting about the thing is one of these two teams
has to go out because Ari Kane, Riy Kane is
also a great guy. He's only six to two, the
Captain of England. But listen to him here, unbelievable support.

Speaker 4 (01:53:59):
Ah speaks. Yeah, Jordan, my face is.

Speaker 28 (01:54:03):
Gone, I mean speaking of him up, it's how can
you not love that, but I've just got to go
and I've got to play you some some ancient I've
got to play some ancient.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
Viking support for for the Norwegians before we play go
out on some support for the English, just so i
can sit on the fence a little.

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
Bit from the learn of Funder.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
I mean, this is what England are up against.

Speaker 5 (01:54:31):
One warrior risers.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
And in the past.

Speaker 29 (01:54:37):
The Vikings have turned up and the North is some
pretty hardcore stuff to the English.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
So this is the official Norwegian football song Fee for
World Cup. It's powerful stuff. Got to hear it, just

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a little bit more of their voice before we go.
You can feel it. You can feel the power of
the Fiords, of the ice and the snow. The North
is cooling, but in the ends go England. That brings

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us in the show. Thank you so much for listening.
We'll see on Monday afternoon. I'm mad. Have a great
long weekend, give.

Speaker 12 (01:55:46):
A taste of fee kick.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
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