Full Show Podcast: 16 April 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Thursday show. I
hope you're doing pretty well if you're listening to New Zealand,
great to have you listening.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
And though how you doing, man, I'm.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Doing pretty well. Big your pardon?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Sorry, you're good. Yeah, I'm okay, yep, you look good.
I've got to say, mate, you look very good.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Oh, thank you. I'm just I'm just eating a protein shake.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh good man.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
And by eating, I mean drinking.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Is that the man shakes?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
No, No, I've gone off the man shake. I'm on
a new type of protein shape. But I've got this
new invention because I need to get caffeine into my
system at the same time. Oh no, so pour that.
You pour the coffee into your protein shake and then
you get the benefits of caffeine and the benefits of
all the protein in your protein shape.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Slightly curdled, slightly lumpy.

Speaker 5 (01:06):
No, it's good.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It's good. It's good stuff. I reckon this could be
a new invention.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hey, just before we get into the show, I've got
a question for you and for our listeners. Now you know,
you know, I've had this pushm as and there's no
motor to it. It's just one of those old school
you get behind it and you give us some human power.
And I've decided if you've got to catch it with that,
ye got to catch it with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
just dump down in the back of the reserve.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
No problem there.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
But I've decided finally that I'll upgrade to an actual
proper MOA here. But here's my question for you. So
I've looked at the petrel quite like the petrel ones
that are a lot cheaper than the electric wounders. A
lot of people get still there. The electric ones are okay,
but the one I think I've settled on is the
old plug in electric that runs a cord on.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It, so the wall hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
The question I've got for you is I can save
at least fifty percent off by going with the cord
over just one of those other battery powered and even
the petrel, the old corded ones, they are the best
value for money. But why would that decision come back
to haunt me? I can't see any downside of just
plugging in. We plug into the house, run an extension cord,

(02:09):
and go up and down the lawn for half the price.
That seems like a win win situation.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
You need to mow the lawns as God intended were
a mess Port petrol lawnmower. They're not even that expensive.
You can get one hundred and forty c c petrol
lawn mower for what seven hundred bucks or something, Or
you could get a very very very cheap run go
around in my neighborhood, which isn't too far from your neighborhood,

(02:36):
there's a mess Port shop, or there's a there's a lawnmower,
a peer shop that they're always selling second hand combustion
engine lawnmowers, and and that. Then you don't need a
we we don't need batteries. There's no charging time. You
just pour the gas and good to go. Well, just
remember the spark plugs, yep. That you know, if you
if you're pulling the yank in the cord lot and

(02:58):
nothing's happening, it's probably because the spark plug has come
out or there's something problem, the problem with the spark.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
They you don't need okay, right, okay?

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, plus and plus you can wake in up on
the weekend if you start early, get out there.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
And that as a bonus. That is a great bonus.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
And a proper petrol lawnmower will power through anything that
the power. There's no comparison and the power between a
petrol lawnmower and an electric lawnmark.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I just laugh at as some of these sticks
coming through. Can I read some of the about I
can read this one out handing your man card? Tyler, Tyler,
what is wrong with you? I thought better of you?
Wait till you run over the two forty vold cord. Yeah,
that's a fair point. I don't think about that, No, Tyler,
that cord behind you.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
You need to just look. You can get you probably.
I reckon. I reckon you could. You could go on
trade me and you could find yourself a cack ass
mass port for two hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
See now you talk that with last generations, you can
hand it down to your kids. Now you're talking, because
I'll see you seven hundred brand new. The one I
was looking at the Azito twelve hundred watts plug in
lawn mower one hundred and fifty nine dollars. You know
that's a steal, but maybe I'll just go second hands, Petro.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
If you're out on your berm mowing with a cord
hanging out over the fence, people are going to walk
past and Hessen boom it reckon.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Maybe will leave me.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
She should leave you.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I could be single after that, all right, keep those
aggestions coming in.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
She'll say she doesn't care, but then you know, she'll
start to like you. Flinch when you cuddle her and stuff,
because you'll just know that you're not You're not quite
the man she thought you were.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Good to know, mate, good to know. Right on to
today's show. After three o'clock, we want to talk about sport.
There's a new study out that's claims that there's one
sport above all others that will increase your longevity, as in,
it is the healthiest sport that you can play, and
that sport is tennis. Now they argue tennis for a
whole bunch of reasons that it's very good for your cardier,

(04:55):
raises the heart rate, there's a lot of running around
in very limited injury risk associated with that sport. But
there's a question we want to put out to you.
There's some great texts going through.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
I can't believe how much feedback there is. And you
suggesting to run a lawnmarle with a cord.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I just didn't expect that level of venom. But it's
made me. It's made me reassess a lot of things
in my life. So thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
You knew there was so much hate out there for
plug in Lorn Moost.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, keep those things coming through.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
But the question I've got for you is what sports
worked the best for you in terms of your overall health.
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call after three? But looking forward to that at
that discussion. Pickleball, Yeah, pickleball's massively popular. I think the Hawks,
the Hawks, Bees, and the Hoskins are into that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
At the moment.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's might play a bit of pickleball.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I'm okay. Does she loves it?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Can you imagine Mike and Shorts?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, I don't want to. That is after three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
After two o'clock, we want to talk to talk about
the changes coming to a pharmacy near you so. Pharmacist
could soon play a bigger role in New Zealand's healthcare
system under a proposal that would let them prescribe and
supply some funded medicines without patients needing to see a
doctor first. The change would allow families to get treatment
for common conditions like headlights, can junk dividus fever directly

(06:10):
from their local pharmacy, potentially saving both time and money.
Health Minister Simeon Brown says it could make a real difference,
with some treatments dropping from around one hundred bucks to
as little as five dollars or even free for some people.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I don't think anyone have a problem with that, right
if your kids got knits that you don't need to
go to the doctor and then you get the prescription
for you know, you get to buy it for cheaper,
So that seems great. That seems great to me. But
should it go further? Because really what a GPS doing now?
They're just googling? So in pharmacy, pharmacists they're smart people.

(06:43):
It's not easy to get a pharmacy study for a
long time. You have to be smart to get there.
So what else will we pile on top of them?
To diagnose. Yeah, you know, I would trust a pharmacists
as much as I trust a GP for not I'm
going to just make up a number here, but ninety
percent deveilments sounds good.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, But taking your calls on that after two o'clock
because right now I want to have a chat about fraud.
This is after a christ huge business owner. He is
turning heads after showing unexpected compassion to a former employee
who stole more than four hundred thousand bucks from his
particular company. His name is Stephen Ratray of BG Contracting
in langey Aras. So he's agreed to wipe part of
Tracy Littlewood's remaining debt, saying it is hopefully liberating for

(07:24):
her and gives her an opportunity to move on. Tracy
Littlewood had already paid hundreds of thousands after being convicted
of fraud, and now with a final lump sum, Rattray says,
as far as I'm concerned, she has paid her debt.
He's even offered to provide a job reference going forward,
adding I wish you nothing but success from reflecting. When
you get knocked down.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
You either become a victim or you get up and
keep going.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
And that Jodge job reference. What's he going to say,
you know, diligence, always there on time, goes the extra mile,
stole four hundred thousand dollars from us at one point.
But apart from that, I couldn't recommend him more. Here's
my number.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's good point. Yeah, you've got to be honest at
that job reference.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
You have to be a pretty good employee to get
over the four hundred thousand dollars nick.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Part of it.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
But yeah, I mean it's certainly quite phenomenal to forgive
someone for that level of broken trust and ripping off
your company to the tune of four hundred thousand dollars.
I'm sure he's very happy it's done and dusted and
she's been sentenced, and maybe part of him just wants
to be done with it as well.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, I mean, it's amazing that he can forgive to
that level. Right this Texas says forgiven, not forgotten. Holding
onto anger only harms you. Yeah, that's true. I mean,
how long do you hold on to it? If you've
got an employee and rips you off, how how long
do you hold onto that anger? And how much damage
it can it do to you on top of the
damage that the initial money has been you know that
you've lost from you.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
None can be heavy on you to carry that around.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, but the question we've got for you is, if
you have been defrauded, how did you get over it?
If you did get over it, Oh, e one hundred
and eighty ten eighty, When you've had that level of
trust broken, whether it was an employee or a family
member that's ripped you off, how did you deal with
it after the fact? Can you, like this particular gentleman,
forgive and maybe even forget? I wait, hundred eighty ten

(09:10):
eighty is that number to call? And if you've been
ripped off and you couldn't forgive and you wanted to
see the book thrown at them, really keen to hear
from you as well. Nine two ninety two is that
text number? It is a quarter past one.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Beg for you.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
Surely you've been killed in the text message at the
moment over I hate me, no you corded lornma, I
hate me mass port.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons excuse talks that'd.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Be afternoon to you. It's eighteen a past one. So
how did you get ripped off? And how did you
deal with that person? This is on the back of
a christ huge business owner who got ripped off to
the tune of four hundred thousand dollars. So if that
happened to you in your business or a family member, keen.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
On your story. I watee hundred eighty ten eighty is
that number?

Speaker 4 (09:55):
The six says our accounts woman ripped us off for
two hundred and fifty k plus, finished off our business.
We got nothing back. I see her and about and
I get so angry. I have to cross the road.
We living a more towns. She ruins something my husband
and I worked out asses off to build. Maybe forgiveness
would help me, but I can't get there.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah, I think a lot of people would feel that
way as well. If that's you, I one hundred and
eighteen eighty is the number? Ninety two ninety two is
that text as well?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Any business that gets defrauded really needs an uppercut controls
to prevent a simple ass. I don't know about that.
So there's a I think what happens in a lot
of businesses and people will tell me who have been
ripped off one hundred and eighteen eighty. But I think
what happens is you're all hands, all hands the pump,

(10:46):
and so you bring on someone to do the accounts
and you're just working every moment of the day in
your business and you feel like that part of it
is being sorted, and then it turns out someone's been
pilfering money and not paying tax or whatever it is. Yeah,
So I don't know that the systems that are in

(11:07):
place in the perfect world, but you know, some people
are really good at at the core business and not
really good at the accounting side of it. Right, That's right.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
That's why you employ someone to take care of that
aspect in this case, and maybe it's not uncommon. So
this particular person, Tracy Littlewood, it took her years to
defraud to the level of four hundred thousand dollars. But
that included up in her wages, fabricating invoices. But this
just slowly chipped away over many, many years to get

(11:40):
to that four hundred thousand dollar mark. But if you've
been in that position, what were the red flags that
you might have missed?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Our company was affected by fraud a while ago, says
this text of the pain it caused, and financial financial
losses were huge. My husband has forgiven or then not forgotten,
But as for me, I will never ever forgive him.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean, oh, look, I've got to say, if
I was in that, this particular business owner's position, I
don't know if I could forgive four hundred thousand bucks.
Luckily has business survived. But that line there, and I
didn't read it out before, but he said, let me
just find that. He wanted Littlewood to be able to
carry on with your life rather than be reminded of
her crime each week. The reparations would have taken her

(12:21):
nine years to repay the full amount at one hundred
bucks a week.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And I didn't want to see her do that.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I mean, for most people, they would say, to hell
with Tracy Littlewood. I want her to be reminded every
time she has to pay me a hundred bucks off
what she's done.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
But how did you deal with it?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
If you got defrauded in your business or by a
friend or a family member, how did you deal with that?
And what were the red flags that you think people
should know that you wish you had scenes earlier one
hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
This Texas says, oh, great, we have to get ripped
off and do the forgiveness as well. Does that sense
make sense? Are great? We have to get all right?
So basically they're saying, we get ripped off and have
to do the forgiveness as well. That is a lot
lose the money and also be in charge of the
emotional baggage. We have to pay twice. Yeah, I don't

(13:10):
know if you have to. I don't know if you
you know, the argument would be forgiving the person so
you could get on with things, because continually being mad
doesn't necessarily get your money back.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Right, Yeah, yeah, there's an element of maybe not selfishness,
but doing yourself a favor by letting that go.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
But what do you say?

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number.
We have a chat with Mary. Get a Mary.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
Hi, How are you going?

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
So what's your take on what this particular business owner
has done forgiveness? Could you do something like that in
that situation?

Speaker 8 (13:45):
No?

Speaker 9 (13:46):
If I find for a reference, so I would like
to be told that they had been stolen from because
I've had it happen and it's.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Not great, right, And what happened in your situation?

Speaker 10 (13:56):
Mary.

Speaker 9 (13:58):
So I've got a retail store and I had a
girl working for me for six years who are trusted
with my life. And when we were short some cash
one day, I said to the manager who was trying
to cash up. I said, forget it, it'll balance tomorrow.
Just go home because it's a late night. Just go

(14:18):
home and it'll work out tomorrow. And she said the
next day that yes, the money was there, but the
place where it had been placed was a bit weird
and there was only one person that had sort of
been in that part of the shop, and I didn't
believe it. And I should have walked at the cameras
because I would have seen what had happened. But I

(14:38):
didn't look at the cameras, which I regret because I
kept her on for another six months. And then they
found out that she was giving stock to her girlfriends
when they came into the shop, and when she was
qushing about that, she was putting through fake refunds to

(15:00):
Prisy cards and trying to correct what she was doing.
But basically the thing what she was doing, is doing
fake reforms and getting cash out of the business.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Did you discuss this with the face to face? Was
there a confrontation Mary?

Speaker 9 (15:19):
Yes, there was eventually, because I got hold of the
local police officer in our area and I asked her
for some advice because I didn't know how to handle it,
and she said she couldn't come into the store, but
not to accuse her of anything, but to just ask
her to please explain some things that been happening. And
I had some screenshots of her friends were walking in

(15:42):
without it was it's a very little jewelry business, so
walking out with bracelets on their hands, kind of on
evers that hadn't been there when they arrived. So when
I asked her to please explain, she tried to deny
it at first, and then she just just labored everything

(16:07):
out to me, confessed the whole thing. So she just
left that day and I've never seen her since.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
And did you get the authorities involved?

Speaker 9 (16:21):
No, because you know what, I've watched the news and
I see people that have stolen from their employers and
they get nothing handed down to them, and I thought
it's too stressful. I mean, I could even think about it.
Because every time I tried to talk to it took
me three weeks that she had but to speak to her,
because every time I thought about it, I start crying

(16:42):
because I was quite close to her and tried to
do like a daughter. So people said I should. Still,
I've still got time if I wanted to, But I've
got your confession. She's confessed to everything, and I just
don't not just moving on, but I just never want
to see her again.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Was there remorse? Did she express remorse? Do you marry one?

Speaker 8 (17:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (17:05):
She did.

Speaker 9 (17:06):
She was a good little Christian at the ghost Church
every Sunday.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
So why did she do it?

Speaker 11 (17:12):
Mary?

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Did you ever say why?

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (17:14):
She told me she's got some friends that used to
work for me as well, a couple of sisters who
are very wealthy, and they used to go out and
go on holidays a lot, and she was just stealing
off me so she could keep up with their lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Right, And how much damage did it do to your business? Mary?

Speaker 9 (17:33):
Well, it was in twenty twenty two, so you can
imagine we're still trying to get over COVID. Yeah, the
business is not doing so great. Retail is really tough,
So yeah, she did a bit of damage. It wasn't
hundreds of thousands, but it was still you know, maybe
twenty or thirty thousand.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
So do you and you've never seen her again, have
you No, I've never seen her. But do you think
do you think there's a obligation in a way, And
obviously you're the victim in this, so you don't have
to do anything at all. You can choose to what
you do, but for it to inform people going forward
that that that this person is like that, because it

(18:10):
seems that someone steals once they they tend to you know, I.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
Hadn't seen That's what I said, you know, I.

Speaker 11 (18:19):
I believe that she would steal again.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
The only thing she asked me was not to let
her mother know because she didn't want the shame from
the family because they're Chinese.

Speaker 11 (18:31):
I'd love to tell the mother.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Have you recovered yourself mentally as a still you know
an element of view that that that trust that was
broken is still you know there for you when you
take on your employees or you deal.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
With you every Unfortunately, you kind of look at your
staff and think, oh my god, that they're not stealing.
I mean, I used to treat my girls really well,
because I always believe that if you treat your stuff well,
they wouldn't steal. We used to go find on in
restaurants five or six times a year.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
I try.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
I spoiled those girls and my friends are gay.

Speaker 7 (19:07):
Oh God, just spoil the girl.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
Why did you keep doing that?

Speaker 9 (19:09):
Because you know they work hard.

Speaker 11 (19:11):
To me and I want to say thank you.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Yeah, I don't take girls out for dinner so much anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
I'm sorry this happened to you. Yeah, and cruel. It
sounds rough. Have you changed systems at all to keep
an eye on people.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
Well, I always believe that they want to steal, they
can steal, So it's really hard. I've just got to
put trust in the girls that went to me now,
so hopefully.

Speaker 8 (19:37):
We just had.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yeah, we're probably we're a bit relaxed with the documentation
of refunds, you know, and a lot of stores when
you go and get a refund, they make you sign
things and all that.

Speaker 11 (19:49):
But then she would have just forched it.

Speaker 9 (19:50):
So you know, she was pretty smart. She's smart, a
little cookie. She just saw a weak Scott in the
business and she she abused it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Sorry to hear that, Mary, Sorry that happened to you.
Thank you so much for you cool.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, absolutely incredibly crawl. Are you like Mary Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty did you have to face
fraud within your business or from a family member or friend?
And if you did, how did you deal with that?
Ninety two ninety two is the text number. It is
twenty nine past one.

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Speaker 3 (21:06):
Afternoon, see you. It is twenty ten nine to two.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
So if you were ripped off and your business will
buy a friend, how did you deal with the aftermath
and what would you do differently? Our one hundred AC
ten eighty is that number to call a Nine two
ninety two is the text number. Plenty of texts coming
through on nine two ninety two. This one says geta guys.
Me and my wife were ripped off by the person
looking after our books and our particular business.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
It was a gardening business. We trusted her with our life.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
She was a family friend for twenty years, but over
those twenty years, unbeknownst to us, she was slowly ripping
us off in various ways. Did I forgive I'd like
to say yes, but the reality is I could never
forgive her what she did. She destroyed our business that
we work so hard for, and considering that level of
broken trust, I could never fully forgive what she's done.

(21:55):
In terms of red flags we should have seen earlier, yes,
there were many. All we can say to anybody out
there thinking they might be going through something similar is
make sure you get a second accountant to check over
the books, all the best to that particular business and
other people going through what we went through.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, and this Texas says, what about when it's your wife?
She did this to me. Wife did accounts, siphoned three
hundred and forty grand and lost at gambling. It was
an addiction, but her put us in a bad position.
Still together, but some mornings I look at her asleep
and seethe with anger. It's hard. We're struggling still because
of her.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, man, that is tough.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Keep those teams coming through A nine two ninety two
and taking your calls on oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty. If you have been ripped off and your
business will buy a friend, How did you deal with
what happened afterwards, the aftermath and what lessons do you
think other people should be aware of? Headlines with Raylene
coming up it is twenty seven too.

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new Cookstrait ferries arrive in twenty twenty nine. As diagnosed
with ADHD in my fifties, I felt like a bit
of a fraud. You can see the full story at
enzidherld dot co dot ZD. Back to Matt Eathan Tyner Adams.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Thank you, Ray Lane. So we are talking about being defrauded.
This is after a cross each business owner he's decided
to forgive, maybe not forget, after a former employee stole
four hundred thousand dollars from his company. So, if you
were ripped off in your business or buy a friend,
how did you deal with the aftermath? I w one
hundred and eighty ten eighties to number to call this.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Texas says, hey, Fellers, shouldn't joke, but there's a funny saying.
Where there's a till, there's a way she's going on.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, very true. Marian. How are you?

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (24:41):
Good?

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Thanks?

Speaker 6 (24:41):
How are you going good?

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Nice to chat with you. So what was your situation?

Speaker 7 (24:46):
This was going back about ten years ago. I was
a teacher at a community kindergarten, so it wasn't run
by a corporation or anything. Was run by a board
of parents, so it was very community based and we
had someone in the office soul charge. She had full
you know, we trusted her implicitly, she had full reign

(25:06):
of everything. And over a few years we noticed her
lifestyle got really good and she was having over these
trips and doing stuff on their house and were always
used to think, how on earth is she doing this
because you know, community kindy. Anyway, it took a different
board appearance to come on that someone was brave enough

(25:26):
to start asking questions. And she she was ripping us
off leaft right and sent her a dodgy invoices, even
to the point if we had a fundraiser and we
had cash, she would take some of the cash and
then take the rest of the bank. It was just awful.
So we yeah, so we confronted her as a team
and made her walk through the walk of shame, you know,

(25:48):
come in and sit down with us. And she was
very visibly distressed and you know, beside herself and bought
her father was here, and we've been to the police,
and the police had said nothing. You know, we can't
do anything really because it wasn't hundreds of dollars but
enough for a kindergarten.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
You know, when we was you said, it wasn't hundreds
of dollars, wasn't.

Speaker 7 (26:11):
Hundred hundreds of thousands. It was probably twenty fifteen twenty
grand community together, right, and money that the parents had
given us. Anyway, so we said to her that we
would forget about it if she promised us that she
would never get a job where she was sole charged

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dealing with children handling money, that sort of thing. Never
be put in that situation again. Oh yes, yes, you,
thank you very much. Started editor. Anyway, about a year
later we heard that she was in exactly the same position.
So we wrang them and told them the whole story
and sent evidence and everything, and she lost that job

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as well.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
So do you know if she'd she'd pilfort anything from
them yet I don't.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
I don't think so they wouldn't give us that information.
It was very done, very professionally, and it wasn't It
wasn't just ringing up rating on her. It was done professionally,
but it was just just how could someone do that
to a kindergas, you know, and we need to socialize
with her, and.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
And spending it on because I know there's there's no excuses,
but in addiction is one thing. But spending it on
travel and you know, taking from kids in the community situation,
and spending it on your luxury and behavior to keep up.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
With the joneses.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean there's something psychotic about that, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, So that was a big learning
curve for us. I when we put our hands up.
We didn't have checks and balances in place too. You know,
we put a lot of systems in place after that
where nobody could ever do that to us again. So
it was a lot of our faults as well.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Interesting one, the forgiveness question, Mary, and I take it there.
The forgiveness wasn't strong.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
No, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, fair enough to Mary, and thank you very much
for your call.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
How you Mike.

Speaker 7 (28:05):
Here?

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Are you good? Thank Tyler's here as well.

Speaker 10 (28:08):
Oh, Tyler, Yeah, yeah, I'm just ringing out regarding what
you're talking about. A few years ago, I had a
retail grocery business and I was ripped off by a
lot of money. I didn't really notice the time will
for a while, because my well, my bank manage brought
up my tension. The trading account wasn't operating the way

(28:32):
it always did, and unfortunately at the time, I was
going backwards and forwards with my wife getting treatment for cancer.
And long story short, you know, they they wore smock
pop pop over tops, and she would take money out
of the till, foldering in half and put it into

(28:53):
the bottom of the smot And yeah, she took a
lot of money off us. Yeah, it was. It was
pretty sad at the time.

Speaker 4 (29:03):
And how is your how's your cancer treatment gone? Mate?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (29:07):
It was wife?

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Okay, right, and she how is she now?

Speaker 10 (29:12):
Unfortunately she passed away. So it's a little bit slapped
at the time, you know, you know, with my business
and unfortunately this girl she was in the same class
as as as one of my daughters. And you know,
it just wasn't very nice at all.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, and sort of and I mentioned for you that
would hit you pretty hard because she's taken advantage when
you're in a difficult position in life.

Speaker 10 (29:42):
Yeah, well, we had to put a hit to do
an interram balance sheet, you know too, you know, try
and work out how much and there was a lot
of money. I would I would advise anybody that catches
like we had to put get it as specialist to
come in and he put cameras, cameras and and that

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that's how we caught her.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
Right, And did you have the confrontation?

Speaker 15 (30:10):
I I.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
Know, I let this specialist person dear of the whole
thing right through court everything. You know, it's silly, really,
I mean, we're we're we're in the right, but but
we feel terrible, you know, and I would advise anybody
that catches anybody like that to don't matter with their

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friends whatever charge them. She got diversion in the end,
you know.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
And have you have you seen her out and about anywhere,
working anywhere else since then?

Speaker 10 (30:45):
Might No, No, I haven't seen her from that day.

Speaker 14 (30:50):
You know.

Speaker 10 (30:50):
We were promised by her father that he would make
sure that we got some money back. But I think
once once the lawyers are involved, they just say, no,
you're probably best best not to talk to talk to
who you've stolen off.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
Do you have a much anger from the situation, because
you know, the story that fired this off was a gentleman,
that's forgiven. The person that looked him.

Speaker 10 (31:20):
No, I would never forgive yeah, no, no, because she
did not only taking all that a lot of money,
she never ever came back to the family and apologize
or anything. But at the time we were going through hell,
you know, as I say, my wife passed away, And yeah,

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I would not forgive.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
No one could blame you for that.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, hey, thanks very much for having to chat with us,
and so sorry that happened to you. I mean, diversion
for that level of crime, that is ridiculous, you know,
diversion is the first offense for a small level crime,
not for defrauding a business. The fact that she got
pretty much let off is a first offense. That blows
my mind.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
It's a funny thing as well, because you say first offense,
but that there was a whole lot of offense, so you're,
you know, you're stealing and putting it in the smock
or whatever the situ was, over and over again.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a good point.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
It's like when someone gets charged with shoplifting, but there's
been multiple shoplifting offenses.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, and they group them in one and then if
they are able to apply for diversion, sometimes they get
it each lea.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
An individual time when they've chosen to commit a crime.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, yeah, right, taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. If you have been ripped off,
whether that was in your business or by a friend,
how did you deal with it afterwards? Could you forgive
and what would you do differently if you had your
time again? Nineteen ninety two is that text number? It
is fourteen to two.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
The big stories, the big issues, to the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons
used talks that'd be it is twelve to two.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I'm an auditor. I'm an auditor. I'm an auder, Tour
says this texter after my onions problem yesterday, where it
get words right, I'm an auditor. The best thing to
do to prevent fraud is to introduce simple controls such
as dual authorization of all bank payments to authorizers required
and checks over any supplier bank account detail changes. Yeah,

(33:19):
it just kind of goes back to what I'm saying before.
Some people are just running small operations and they're just
overworked as it is.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, they don't want that Edmond side of things, right,
and so.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
They bring in an accounts person and they go, can
you take this problem off my hands? And then they
become a friend, and you know, their kids or whatever,
I don't know. You socialize with them and you and
you trust them like a family member, and then later
on you phone the're ripping you off. So you know,
sometimes the people don't mean it's obviously great advice.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, but you're right.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I mean a lot of people just want to focus
on the bread and butter of the business, and that's
why you get somebody in.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
But especially when you're up against it.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, you don't want to.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Be signing bank statements because that's not your forte. You
want to trust someone to be able to do that
for you. And unfortunately, sometimes that's where it goes wrong.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
And it feels good. You know, nothing feels better than
when you know your accountant hands over the mind coming
from my charted accounted black box that say that my
business is sorted.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Fine, I don't have to worry about anything.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
So you've hired someone and they're telling you things are sorted,
so you're sleeping well at night and going I can
concentrate on the core business.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Yes, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I work in software, says in software support. The start
is usually a call from the owner saying there is
something wrong with the system. I've had several clients where
I have investigated and found fraud is the cause. The
hardest thing is convincing the owner their staff member is
doing something wrong and their software is highlighting that there
is an issue. I I used to work in a

(34:45):
computer repair shop back in the day, Yes, and people
and parents would come in and they'd go, there's something.
So this is back in the day with dial up Internet.
They're come in and say, go there is something wrong
with our our family computer. It's dialing adult sites in
the middle of the night on its own.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I can see where this is going.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
And then then we'd go. Before we put it through
to get repaired, we'd be late. Do you have a
teenage son?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
And the answer words ninety nine sign beat, Yes, Yes
we do, Graham, We've got about a couple of minutes,
my friend, But what's your story?

Speaker 16 (35:26):
Had a person I trust to the accounts and everything
for our business. I went to give her a pay rise.
I went to look and see just exactly what she'd
been doing ours and everything. What I found was that
she'd been doing things like double paying herself. She had

(35:47):
been filing a payroll with one bank, and then before
it went and got uploaded to the second bank, she'd
go back into the records again and change it. Figures
were altered for her.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (35:59):
The police charged her with one hundred and thirty K.
I found three hundred that she'd stolen before I stopped
looking because I knew that she was never going to
be able to pay it back again. But the thing
that I'd like to mention here and for anybody else
that's in the situation where they found that is, she
then took a personal grievance against me for unjustified dismissal.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Oh you're kidding. I hope she lost that, Graham.

Speaker 10 (36:23):
Well, I work in.

Speaker 16 (36:24):
HR, so I hope I did it right. Just yeah, yeah,
I know, but the law is quite specific. Even if
she's guilty, you still have to follow the correct procedure
and process to get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (36:40):
So emotions can run quite high at the time, and
if you find that, you can tend to have a
knee jerk reaction and tell somebody to piss off. But yeah, please,
just as a warning, if anybody is in that situation,
make sure you either do it right or get somebody
else to do it because of emotions. And the other

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thing was what you were talking about earlier, Matt, forgiveness.
I actually wrote her a letter in the end and
I said, I'll forget you for what you've done, but
I'll never forget it.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well, good on you.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
And didn't that help? Because what's what's the famous saying
to forgive us to set a prisoner free and discover
that the prisoner was you who said that? Yep, Lewis Smeads.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I think great quote.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yeah, yeah, and so did that Did that help you
to write that letter? Did it sort of set you free?
As it were?

Speaker 16 (37:28):
Talk about two to three years before I got around
to doing it. I must admit that I did have
a lot of anger. Yeah, and a lot of stress
because of what put our family through.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah, but yeah, you do have to let go of
the end.

Speaker 17 (37:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Good on you, Graham, Graham, thank you very much. What
a great call. Right, keep those calls coming through A N.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's seven to two, matd Heath, Taylor Adams taking your
calls on eight hundred and eighty Tight, it's mad Heath
and Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talk said.

Speaker 14 (38:02):
Be.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
It is four to two.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
This is quite the text here. I got fired from
my job, my last job, for stealing money. It's no excuse,
but I was using that money purely to buy meth
and heroine. My life was hall and I imposed that
hell on decent people. And now I'm clean and sober.
I couldn't be more apologetic. I paid back what I
took immediately four months later. My old boss still even
offers me a little work on a contractor basis, so

(38:25):
no need to come on site. I'm blessed my boss
was such a good man who was willing to still
have me back despite what I've done and work every
day to better myself from that shell. I once was
someone with integrity, someone who's worthwhile.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Wow, I mean heads off to that boss for giving
that person a second chance.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah yeah, and good on you for you know, improving yourself.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, what a great text. Thank you to everyone who
phoned and called on that one. Coming up after two o'clock.
Pharmacists could soon take on a begger role in New
zealand healthcare, prescribing some funded medicines without the need to
see a doctor.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
But how far could that purview go?

Speaker 14 (39:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (39:02):
One hundred and eighteen eighty is a number.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Big stories, the leak issues, the trends, and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Talk said the welcome back into the program. I hope
you're having a great Thursday afternoon. Thanks for giving us
a listen. So, pharmacists could soon play a much bigger
role in New Zealand's healthcare system under a proposal that
would let them prescribe and supply some funded medications, with
out patients needing to see a doctor first. So the
change would allow families to get treatment for common conditions

(39:35):
like head lice, conjunctividers, feather, etc. Directly from their local pharmacy,
potentially saving both time and money. Health Minister Simeon Brown
says it could make a real difference some treatments, dropping
from around one hundred dollars to as little as five
dollars or even free for eligible patients. Pharmacists would also
be able to assess patients and provide care similar to

(39:56):
a doctor's visit, helping ease pressure on GPS and hospitals.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
It's interesting that gps have been involved in prescribing the
stuff at all. Lie scabies, conjunctivitis. You know, if you've
got those, you probably don't need You probably don't even
need a pharmacist to tell you that your kid's got knits.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
I mean you can see them. You can see them
crawling on your dear little darling's head.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
So if you if they're if they are are subsidized knits,
you know, remedies, knit champoo or whatever it is. Nick Combs, Yeah,
then it is it is that. I mean obviously a
pharmacist can tell you, can can sell you that, right, yeah,
you know, so surely this is a good thing, right Well.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
I think sometimes when you go to the doctor just
it does feel like a tick boxing exercise, right, And
I'm not having to go at GPS here.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
They do fantastic work, but.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Quite often you know roughly what your ailment is going
to be or what medications you need. You go and
sit down, you have your fifteen minutes. The doctor asked
you the same questions that they asked last time.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Tick a box. Everything good? You need another blood test?

Speaker 4 (40:53):
No?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Okay, happy days, here's your scrap, see you later. And
they are under the pump. They are massively under the pump.
My GP is I can see it.

Speaker 8 (41:00):
Man.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
It's it's so hard for me to get a you know,
to try and book into get into my GP. It's
two weeks.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
So basically, if I'm ill and I go to BOK,
I just don't book because I'll be better by the
time I got.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
In there, exactly. And a lot of people do that.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
So the idea of just nipping down to your local
pharmacists and saying, I feel like I've got a bit
of a cold here or a bit fluey, and I
need to have you have a look at me and
give me the medication I need. That makes a lot
of sense because then they can say, yep, we can
prescribe you some more kick cass paying medicine. Then you
can get over the counter, we can give you these ointments.
We can give you this because we know that you

(41:38):
have got this particular ailment.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
In my opinion, pharmacists are smart people. It's not easy
to get a pharmacy degree. You have to be very clever. Yes,
you have to know chemistry and such, which everyone knows
is a subject that trips a lot of people up. Yes,
so you know I reckon nearly everything could be prescribed
by pharmacists, right, I mean, what are you comfortable handing

(42:02):
over to the front line?

Speaker 5 (42:03):
You know?

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Are you what are you comfortable to hand over to
diagnosis to pharmaciy us? And what would that mean to
their health system? Yea, and you know it's obviously clogged,
right mm hmm, so hand it all over? Yeah, wouldn't
you hand over?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I one hundred and eighty ten eighty what do you
normally have to go to your GP for that? A
pharmacist could happily prescribe you without the need of paying
that extra fifty bucks. I'm trying to make an appointment
all that other faith.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
I mean, your gpiece is googling it anyway, they sit down,
they've got special doctor Google.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
They do have special doctor Google.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
But give special doctor Google to pharmacists. Yeah, yeah, what
what shouldn't they do?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
A good question.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Obviously, this seems to be mainly focused on oral hydration, scabies, headlights,
and conjunct divide us. It's a good start, but I'm
just trying to I'm scratching my head to think. I mean,
probably probably don't want them die, you know, prescribing antidepressants. No,
you know that that's probably too far.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I tried to make a bit of a list on
some things that I know are quite popular with people,
but in approximate for example, which is a harder form
of ibuprofen. But that I mean in terms of the
danger element and what do I know. I'm a talk
about host, not a pharmacist, but from what I hear,
the danger elements that compared to the pain relief that
people need it for, that is something that can be

(43:24):
ticked off by ticked off by a pharmacist. As it
stands now, you have to go to the doctor, go
through the run. They know what you want, you want,
you want some more in approxim because you're in a
lot of pain and that's the only thing that's going
to help you. But you've still had to go through
those steps for a pharmacist could do that the same way,
just as just as easy.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
And if you're an adult and you want something, then
why is it so hard to get it? I went
to a pharmacist recently to try and buy some Oh,
and we're talking to David Seymour. We are who who
got that? Got this going again with the with the
pseudo effandrink he did. So I went in to get
some of that because I wasn't feeling well and I
needed to do some work and they wouldn't sell it
to me. Yeah, and I thought the system works as

(44:01):
if said, they've identified.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Me aside you up and they said, I don't know
that this man can be trusted. But what do you say, oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty, So how far could
this go for pharmacists in terms of the medication you
get on a regular basis that you don't need the
GP to sign off on every time. Nine two niney
two is the text number. And after the break we
are going to catch up with David Seymour and see

(44:25):
just how far that perview could be extended in time.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It is twelve past two. Begory surely wow.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Your home of Afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 6 (44:36):
Call, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

Speaker 14 (44:39):
Be.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Fourteen pass two. So pharmacists could soon take on a
bigger role in New Zealand's healthcare, prescribing some funded medicines
without patients needing to see a doctor first. But just
how far could that perview be extended in time? Deputy
Prime Minister and Minister in charge of farmac David Seymour
is with us afternoon.

Speaker 15 (44:57):
David, good, afternoon.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
So I'm confused here, David, and I blame Tyler. I
think he bunted the description of what's going on. I think, yeah,
So can you explain exactly what's going on here or
what's been eased up, what's available, what pharmacists can be
able to do here?

Speaker 10 (45:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (45:15):
Well, I hope there's two discussions. Let's answer that question
about what's happening right now, and hopefully we can talk
a bit about what might happen. What's happening right now
for sure is that there are seven different treatments or
conditions which FARMAC currently funds medicines for if they are
prescribed by a doctor. FARMAC is reviewing its funding so

(45:38):
that by June you'll be able to go to a pharmacist,
they'll be able to prescribe, and it will be funded
off what's called the combined Pharmaceutical budget, so basically five
dollars for most people free if you have a community
services car. That's a change that means that there'll be
more incentive to go to a pharmacist for minor ailments.

(45:59):
They're mainly things for children. We're talking headlice, scabees, oral dehydration,
fever pain, those sorts of things. What could happen in
the future that I think it could go further, Well.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
Why have we been involving GPS and prescribing life scabies
and conjunctive idis medicine? You know, you know, if you've
got those, you probably don't need a pharmacist even to
tell you that your kid's got nuts.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
You're probably not.

Speaker 15 (46:25):
But you've got to remember that the prescribing of actual
medication does have to be done by someone that knows
what they're doing, because it's not just do you have
the thing, but what might be the side effects of
the treatment, So you can understand why there has to
be a health professional involved.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Read the package.

Speaker 15 (46:41):
On the other hand, yeah, I mean, look, you know
there's there's a view there that I'm not entirely opposed to,
but you know, we've got to just satisfy people on
both ends of the spectrum here, and so most people
would want to know that if they're having a medicine prescribe,
then you know it's been done by someone who can
look at, well, what other treatments are you on, how

(47:01):
might they interact? What conditions do you have other than
what's being treated right now, what might be the side effects?
I mean, you don't have to be a medical expert
to see that there's quite a lot more that can
happen just in reading the packet.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
What does this primarily solve or HOLP Is it GP
workloads cost for customers or helping keeping rural pharmacies and
business and such.

Speaker 15 (47:24):
Well, it's actually all three of those things. So We've
got this fantastic network of community pharmacies that are mostly
actually small businesses, and for as long as I've been
a local MP visiting them, I've heard that they're getting
hammered and a lot have actually shut down, which is
a real loss. So it actually creates more business for
them to keep that network afloat, because it really makes

(47:45):
a big difference for people the more we use it
and the longer it's there. Number two massive problems worth
getting into GPS, which everybody knows about. It's one of
the things that I hear about the most from people saying, look,
you know it can be three weeks and it's still expensive.
So if you can find a way to get some
of the workload that other people can handle off that,

(48:05):
then that's a win win. And then you think about
for with children that are not well and they've got
a way and it's just a hell of a time
if you have a sick child. So this creates more
opportunity for them and less expense, So you know, it's
a win win win, And I think that in the
future there could be a lot more of this. I
mean ten years ago people said, oh, I don't know

(48:26):
if pharmacists could do immunizations. Now most vaccination or immunization
is actually done by pharmacists. This move that Simeon Brown,
the Health Minister, and I announced yesterday this is just
a few more things you can get done at a pharmacy.
But I think we could go further and move to
a model where for a lot of conditions, you know

(48:48):
that the pharmacist is the healthcare professional nearest to you,
and it's all about making maximum use of every single
health professional, making sure if they can do something, then
they're available and empowered to do it.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
What would be some of those conditions, Minister you mentioned
on with Mike this morning. Melanoma checks for example, could
be you know, a good place to start. But what
other medicines could come under that purview?

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Do you think? Well?

Speaker 15 (49:13):
People talk to me about things like what if you
need to get monitoring and checkups for things like heart rates?
And I've visited pharmacies just in recent times. If you
look at good old Timya out at the Henderson Pharmacy there,
she's a real innovator. She's got an interview room almost
like a doctor surgery out the back, and she's doing

(49:34):
things like you know, taking temperature. You can imagine taking
bloods the way a nurse does at a GP. Sorry
I didn't say temperature, I said heart condition. So you
can imagine more diagnostic stuff. I mentioned checks for skin cancer.
This is something that's usually done or can be done

(49:55):
at least by some sort of technician with the right
scanning equipment. You could imagine maybe going to a pharmacy
to do that. And every one of these procedures that
you take out of GP clinics, out of emergency departments
where people sometimes go if they can't get to their GP,
makes the whole system more efficient from the government's point
of view, but more convenient from the patient's point of view.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah, I mean, pharmacists are smart people. It's not easy
to get a pharmacy degree. So and you know, we
all know we will look over our GPS shoulder and
see them googling, googling what you're going to give us. Anyway,
where would the clinical line be for you? You, David though,
we were at the end because I mean, because there's
probably things maybe antidepressants is probably we don't want them

(50:38):
being handed out on.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
A tramadole codeine.

Speaker 15 (50:42):
Yeah, I mean, obviously there's going to be a line
that we're comfortable with, but I would just observe. In
New Zealand, I think the line is a bit sort
of tight around what has to be done by a
GP or at a hospital and an ED, and we're
less permissive about pharmacist nurse practition as physician assistants and
so on. I always remember a story I had a

(51:05):
partner in Canada when I lived there years ago, and
she's say, I am going to my nurse practitioner, and
I thought, man, what a third world country, Why don't
you go to a doctor like we do in New Zealand. Now,
upon returning home and thinking about it a bit, I
think she had a point because you know, here we
tend to rely on gps and hospitals to do a

(51:26):
lot of stuff that could be done elsewhere. So really,
who is the more sophisticated country, I would argue it's them,
And I'm not saying that. You know, there's always going
to be some stuff you can only get done by
a doctor, of course, but I think, not based on politics,
but based on real clinical evidence, we can probably get
a bit more bang for buck out of the health
professionals we have. And if you look at the forecast

(51:47):
for an aging population, you know, a sea of red
ink and deficits and healthcare. We're going to have to
start doing stuff smarter.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Is there a potential problem with you know, fragmentation of
care and record keeping? You know, if someone's getting this here,
you know one of the things GPS keep good records
and share their record right, So is that a potential problem.
You've got this from the pharmacy, but when you actually
go into i know, you rush to emergency, there's no

(52:16):
information around that.

Speaker 15 (52:17):
I think that's a big problem that we have to solve. Anyway,
I'll give you another example. Tell me telling too many
of these stories. But I was at the wake out
a hospital emergency department once and they've been showing me
around telling me what they did. And they explained to me.
They said, look, I if you were in a car
creation Hamilton, because you're in Auckland or we would have

(52:40):
to email Auckland for your medical records. And I'm like
what you Meanwhile, I'm bleeding out on a table. They're
like yeah, And I said, but hang on a minute.
Didn't the Labor government merge all the DHBs into one?
They said, no, No, that was just the letterheads that
the ITT system is not actually integrated. We're now doing that.
We're getting much better, and we have to do that anyway.

(53:02):
And I think one of the things that would like
to get to is having patient records that are poor
audible and universals. It belongs to the patient wherever you go,
so you can overcome these problems. So, yep, you're right,
it's a problem, but it's a problem. Whatever we do
that we've got to solve and if we solve it,
you'll be able to do more of this stuff through

(53:23):
pharmacies as one of the consequences of that.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
Yeah, well, thank you so much for talking to us.
So you happy that people are referring to pseudo e
for dream, you know, night and days and such. Is
Seymour's pseudo speed.

Speaker 15 (53:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, I really am, because look people, you know,
there's not a lot of thanks in politics, especially not
if you're a slightly edging politician from time to time.
But people only thank me really for two things. One
is pseudo for dream, the other's euthanasia. So I hope
you're thanking me for for dream.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
We can get that rebranded for you across the pharmacies.
David great to catch out. Thank you very much for
your time. That is Deputy Prime Minister and Minister in
Charge of Farm eight David seymore So, what do you say,
is this going to make a big difference for you
if it comes into effect from June? And do pharmacies
need to go further in terms of what they can
prescribe to you?

Speaker 4 (54:14):
What is the clinical line that you think should not
be crossed by pharmacists.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighties. So number to call
it is twenty four past.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Two Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB twenty six.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
So where's the line for you in terms of what
pharmacists should be able to prescribe to you? Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty set number nineteen nine two is
the text?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Get a Jared's yeah, good A.

Speaker 10 (54:43):
How's it going?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Very good? Nice to chat. What's your thoughts?

Speaker 7 (54:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (54:47):
I mean you can understand why the initial appointment appointment
with the GP might be important to get a prescription.
You know, they might be side to sext blah blah
blah all that stuff. But I mean I'm a pretty young.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
Healthy guy sound vera.

Speaker 11 (55:07):
In my twenties. But I've actually battled this this heel
off thing, you know. It's actually it comes to so
many guys and one of the drugs that you have
to get to fight it is finastera, right. But what
I find is that I have to keep going to
the GP to get it prescribed, and it just becomes
like you said before, it just becomes a box that

(55:28):
you have to tick. You know, you know, you're here
just to get that thing.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
What do you think that is?

Speaker 4 (55:33):
What would there possibly be something you need to go
to the GP? Surely you go, the GP goes ask
your question, You go, yeah, look I think I'm losing here,
and they go okay and subscribe it. What that's something
I don't understand why the GP would be involved at all.
What are the resks? What are the side effects on
that particular.

Speaker 11 (55:51):
Well, there's there are there are pretty significant side effects.

Speaker 18 (55:54):
Okay, sexual dysfunction, all.

Speaker 11 (55:56):
The stuff you know. But that's why that's why I say,
you understand the initial appointment right to get good up
on that. Although you know all that stuff online in
the day of this overwhelming amount of information, it is
easy to find stuff online. So there's that argument. But
the thing I don't understand is having to go back

(56:17):
again and again and again just for the same prescription.
They know you're there, they know what you need, you
know the side effects, they know the side effects. Like
surely go into the pharmacy and saying, hey, look near
this thing again, like that would be I mean, I'm
a huge fan of what David Simol was saying.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
Yeah, well you kind of get a blanket prescription. So
this shows that the doctor has told me the risks
and said it's okay, and let's go. Yeah, you know
you're not You're in your twenties, so you know you're
not You're a robust individual. You know it's not going
to do your heart's not going to explode from taking it.

Speaker 11 (56:52):
Yeah, yeah, no exactly. And and if I do feel
adverse side effects or stuff like that, I can go
to the GP myself and self assess myself. I just
wonder if there's like a lack of trust or something
that we can we can know our own bodies and
all this kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Well, it's funny, there is there is a huge there
is a huge lack of trust for the government and
individuals and and you know this isn't even asking individuals
to be in charge. It's it's highly trained individuals like pharmacists.

Speaker 17 (57:23):
Right.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
So it's so you may not trust an individual, but
surely we can trust a pharmacist to know what they're
talking about and tell you that the risks and ask
you the right questions. Speaking of the right questions, does
it work, Jared?

Speaker 11 (57:39):
It stops here loss, It doesn't grow back here. There's
other stuff you have to do, which you actually by
the way, you know, I can all day. I've done
tons of research on this. You can regrow here. You
have to find certain things which are also prescribed by
by doctors for other conditions. So that's another thing I'm like,

(58:01):
I know, like I've done tons of research online, you know. Yeah,
but they will not prescribe it to you unless you
have another condition, So you can't get it.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
For hair loss, which is very frustrated. Right, So what
is the what is the cross up? So it's a
byproduct of treating of what it's supposed to treat, is
that it grows hair back.

Speaker 11 (58:23):
Yes, what is it? It's called? I think it can't
be in the word right trend to no one it's
normally it's or treat and no one or something like that.
It's normally used for like severe acne and stuff like that.
There's side effects about like and stuff, so you've got
to be careful. But you check that on your hair

(58:44):
topically and that will help to absorb the enzymes and
stuff of box ital which is you can get that
over the counter, but it actually has to allut that better.

Speaker 6 (58:54):
Great haarback, so don't pay well and you're talking.

Speaker 11 (58:58):
Hundreds of dollars companies that will just sell that to you.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
So speaking of so you said one of the side
effects of what you're after for or for here is
as loss of sexual desire, a function or whatever. I'm
not sure exactly how you said. So what would you
support pharmacists, you know, selling them selling the viagra and

(59:22):
the cialis or whatever it is over the counter, because
then you could you could get a bit of the
hair stuff and a bit of a bit of the
It's a load of question that one the excitement pills.

Speaker 11 (59:32):
At the same time, Well, I haven't had to deal
with that question yet.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
So I did say it was viral, so you know
that rings true if it pops up or doesn't pop up,
give us a call back and we'll discuss it then.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Yeah, we'll get via good one. Jared, thanks mate, thank
you very much.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I like out there.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
So if you like Jared that you need to go
to a doctor on a regular basis for something like
in his case here treatment or you know something like
ADHD for example. I think that's a medication. You're going
to go back to your doctor to get another prescription
where you're already in the system, right, I mean, look
at what they do in Thailand. Maybe that too far,
but you can get pretty much anything you want in
a tie pharmacy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Nine two ninety two is the text number as well.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
You know there's some good texts coming through there, certainly
as I'd like my farmphacist to be able to supply
me with MDMA for the white rocks and white rock
what's white rock for festivals?

Speaker 10 (01:00:25):
Don't know?

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Can you have to look at that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
I think I think that might be past the clinical
line that David Seam was talking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I think you're right, But keep those teats coming through
headlines with railing coming up, and we're taking your calls
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Thank you very much for Eileen.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
So there's a proposal by June that pharmacist will be
able to prescribe a lot more medicines that ordinarily you'd
have to go to your GP for. So what ourse
should be extended to that purview? What medicines do you
go regularly to the doctor that you don't really need
to go? It's just a tick boxing exercise that a
pharmacist could would prescribe for you. I eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number? Nine two ninety

(01:02:12):
two is the text number?

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
You can get viagra over the counter, not celis, says Ray.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
What's the difference?

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
What's the difference?

Speaker 12 (01:02:20):
Ray?

Speaker 10 (01:02:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:02:21):
Let him go.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
You seem to be an expert. Yeah, good on you.
I am on Seymour's pseudo right now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
So good soldier on teacher, great text, Yeah, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
This other textas there is another text here says you know,
I don't agree with the Act on March, but those
night and days are the shiz.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah, they make your soldier on, that's for sure. Get
a better Yeah, how are you doing there? Good mate?
What's your take.

Speaker 10 (01:02:45):
Well, to me, it actually seems really really weird that
pharmacists aren't allowed to basically issue more medicines that are
unusually available on prescription, especially when you consider that we're
one of two countries where it's still legal to advertise
prescription medicines.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yees, so it's us in the United States, right in
the United States. Those states and the United States have
those crazy you know, conditions on the end of their ads,
don't they that we don't have?

Speaker 10 (01:03:21):
You know, yeah, yeah, I mean if you go to
the chemist and say, hey, I'm looking at this particular medicine,
and the in the pharmacist has a couple of questions,
are WhatsApp forums is this is? And surely the pharmacist
at that point should be able to say, you'd like to,
but I think you'd better see your doctor first, or
you could just say yeah, yeah, that'll be find and.

Speaker 11 (01:03:41):
Go for it.

Speaker 10 (01:03:41):
I mean, you know, they have the doctor as the
gatekeeper for these meds. It's just an added expense.

Speaker 4 (01:03:47):
You know, what do you reckon the line would be there?
If for you, Peter, what do you reckon the clinical
line would be? How far do you think pharmacists could
go because that pops into my mind as antidepressants or
something like that, you know, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
Yeah, I mean that would be one of them. I mean,
you know, in terms of well, let's just say anti
be as for one thing. You know, there's there's a
lot of talking about the overprescription of antibiotics.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Yeah, I think there needs.

Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
To be a little bit of measured response there. But
things like you know, cold and flu medge and shadow
efrodren and all of that sort of stuff. I mean,
you know, if you go to the doctor and you
get a prescription for all of that and you go
and spend full whack rather than you know, going to
the dog and say, Hagot's cold and fluid and have
that covered in the same way the dog would be

(01:04:37):
via a five dollars prescription charge. That just makes a
lot more sense, saves a lot more time, frees up
the docs. I mean, it's just a wodden liking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Not even something like coding to me, Peter, would make
sense because there's still controls in place. People will freak
out and say it's an opioid. It can be abused,
of course it can, but doctors hand that out pretty easily.
You don't need to see much to a doctor to say, look,
I'm in pain, I've got a sport injury. Whatever it is,
they'll hand it out coding very easily. And like were
pseudo the pharmacy. You you had to go there, met
you forgot your license and they didn't give you any

(01:05:05):
of David Seymour pseudo and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
Yet partner Tracy, she went up and they sold it
to her without any ID. So they obviously looked at
me and when this guy looks like some kind of
strung out loser, we can't give it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
And I think that's fair enough. I think they made
a good call there, a very good call. It just
for me, that proves how responsible they the system works.

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Yeah, absolutely, just seems a bit strange that to go
through a six dollar dotor's appointment to get a five
dollar prescription when the chemists and in many cases will
be able to make their determination themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
We live in an interesting world, Peter, where we were
just doing the subject on the show the other day
on how incredibly easy it is for people to buy
a class drugs in this country with technology and the
amount that's getting in. It's just like that people ring
in and saying it's easier than going to the dairy.
It's easier than buying anything. Yeah, Yet and then we
have these really intense restrictions. I'm I'm just commenting on that.

(01:05:59):
I'm not saying that we should make everything just out
there that anyone can get. But it is an interesting situation,
isn't when we've got knowing harmful stuff that people can just.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Get yeap, And yet it's easier to get cocaine than
it is to get it in Haler according to the
texts coming through.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
That's a good way to put it, Tyler, it seems
to be the case. Thanks so much for you call, Peter,
appreciate it. Yeah, great, Cale.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Do you agree with Peter I eight hundred eighty ten
eighty And where would be the line for you in
terms of what pharmacists could prescribe without needing to go
to a doctor? Nine two ninety two is the text
as well. We'll get to a few of those very shortly.
It is nineteen to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor
Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
They be it is seventeen to three.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
So we're talking about the proposal to allow pharmacists to
prescribe more medicines without the need to see a doctor.
But the question we'll put to you is where is
the line? How far should that purview go?

Speaker 14 (01:06:55):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call in?
Nine two ninety two is the text number. Plenty of
texts coming through this one says get guys. For fifty years,
I've had to go to the doctors for an asthma
in Haaler prescription every three months.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
All they ask is is everything else? All right? Sixty
five bucks? Thanks, We'll see you in three months time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
You can get the blue pills without a doctor's appointment,
just a quick check with the chemists. It's great for
the economy class, flight bunk bids parties you're talking about yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
All right, flag that person in New Zealand if you're listening,
don't give them the sky nested. If you see a
guy going to the sky nest with a handful of
blue pills, ratling like I'm moraca hi, Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
It would be good if you could get your prescription
for depression medication. I've been medicated now for ten years.
We have to go to the GP every two to
three months. I literally fill out a form on the computer,
then give me a repeat of course, seventy dollars a time.
I'm the sure the pharmacy could do that. I can
see some problems with that because there's a lot tied
up in depression medication. Yeah, I mean, I might have

(01:08:00):
to think about that, but that doesn't it feels like
it's passed the clinical line line for me. What do
you think? One hundred and eighty ten eighty Thomas.

Speaker 18 (01:08:10):
This good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
So what's your thoughts about allowing pharmacists to prescribe more medicines.

Speaker 18 (01:08:16):
Well, the way that the conversations are going so far
on your show, it sounds to me like the consensus
is pretty much in favor of the whole idea. I'd
like to offer an opposition.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
If I may, thank you, Thomas. We appreciate that.

Speaker 18 (01:08:29):
I think there should be no line at all, because
all we're doing is putting doctors out of business, putting
more responsibility malpractice wise, on the shoulders of pharmacists who
are not qualified to prescribe. Now understand this, You're going
to have a doctor in the back room at the pharmacist.
That's what's going to end up because I can't see

(01:08:52):
a farmists come in and say, well, look i'll just
listen to your chest or.

Speaker 15 (01:08:55):
I'll do it, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:08:56):
So he's just going to be giving up medicine with
a major risk. So why are we doing this? When
are we actually doing shortcuts to make it worse for us?

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
All we're about to you live just generally? Do you
live in small town or a big town in Auckland?

Speaker 18 (01:09:12):
And I have asked me quite badly, happy to go
and pay whatever it costs to see the doctor, and
they do repeat anyway, so I don't need to go
until three or four months later. I'm happy to pay that.
Why can't we just simply pay and get proper advice?

Speaker 12 (01:09:29):
Do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
You do you not have trouble getting to your GP
at all?

Speaker 18 (01:09:32):
Thomas's just call it up, make an appointment going next
week sort of thing. Enough, you've got enough ass for
a minus, keep.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
You going, and do you don't you don't mind paying
that extra, that extra sixty five dollars fee.

Speaker 18 (01:09:46):
Well, we've been doing it for years and we're complaining
we have short of doctors, and now we're putting them
out of business.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
See I see I see it the opposite way, Thomas.
And look, maybe I'm unusual here, but I see the
stress that my particular doctor is under in terms of
the number of patients they need to see on a
regular basis, And it sometimes feels and I'm not even
got my doctor here. They're fantastic, but it does feel
like they're just ticking a box. They know what I'm after,
and it is just a routine that they don't really

(01:10:13):
need to go through. I feel like I'm wasting a
bit of time there where I could happily go down
to a pharmacist and get that same level of service
and the same medication without clogging up my doctor's practice
because they're already busy enough.

Speaker 18 (01:10:26):
Well, you have an opinion, and I respectfully offer the
opposition that we're not qualified to make those decisions. A
doctor will at least listen to your test or something
or whatever it is. And the pharmacist has taken the
load on his shoulders, because who's going to end up
giving a cancer patient medicine for a liver problem or
something and end up he's going to get sued now,

(01:10:47):
And I'm not sure the pharmacists. People aren't going to
be very happy with that. I'm still trying to ask
why are we doing this. Is it because we're short
of doctors are taking off to you to get me
well well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
One of the main reasons to do it is that
rural pharmacies are going out of business. And so what
this means is a certain amount of pharmac funded drugs
and not drugs. Medicines, liscabies, conjunctive itis, medicines can't be

(01:11:17):
don't don't get the pharmacs subsidy unless you go to
a GP first. So the idea here is that pharmacies,
some pharmacies will stay in business. It'll be it'll be
cheaper for families to go there rather than having to
go to the doctor doctor first. And they're the third
part of it is the third part of it is
that that they think there's a big load on GPS
at the moment.

Speaker 18 (01:11:37):
Well, thank you for that answer. I understand now that
we're putting money before OL. We got to keep pharmacist
in business and that's while we're take in this humongous risk.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Okay, thank you for your call, Thomas on your Thomas
always enjoy an opposing opinion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Absolutely. Do you agree with Thomas? Do you think this
is a bit of a shortcut? In his words, eight
hundred and eighty teen eighty is number to call.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
The sex says, I'm a pharmacy technician. This will only
be for minor ailments, a specific list of conditions and medications.
It won't be for a long term medication. It will
be for hay fe of rashes, cold flu minor in fictions. Currently,
we can treat these, but it's not funded by the government,
so you pay for the full price of the meds,
the charges, the subsidy on it. So you will now

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get these for free or for five dollars. Yeah, one
hundred percent. That's where we're going now. But there is
talk and about it going further and allowing pharmacists to
prescribe further things than just the things that you're that
you'ressisting suggesting. They're one hundred percent right at the moment.
What they're talking about is hey, fever, rashes, cold flu

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minor in fictions and such.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, but if they do go further, where is the line? Yep,
it's is a big one. But if they do go further,
where is the line for you? I eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty or are you like Thomas that
you think this is a bit of a shortcut and
it's going to be unfair on doctors and pharmacists.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
I tell you who will tell you if you've got nuts?
Who a hairdresser?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
They certainly will. And Andres, I know someone that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
Got marched from a hairdressers for having that. Very embarrassing.
So she sat down and the hair dresses you've got
to get out. They all stood back because the last
thing a he addresses wants is nuts to get through
the here. Yeah, it's going to kill their business. And
I don't want anyone to know that. People, you know,
they don't want people to say I got nuts from
this fancy hear dresser.

Speaker 11 (01:13:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
So she she said she was unceremoniously marched from the
hear dresser like some kind of you know, like a zombie.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Oh and one hundred eighty said that he's able to
call it as ten to three the issues that affect.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
You and a bit of fun along the way. Matt
Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
News Talks B. It is seven to three.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
We have a chip speaking of speaking of health situations.
I just got a call from my health insurer and
about an issue, and they were trying to make it interesting.
When people bring you and then you have to verify
your details to them, it's kind of weird. Seven to
me twice today.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
You were very polite, though, Yeah, because you didn't say
forty seconds before I'm going to go back on the radio.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I think he probably didn't understand that, because it's kind
of a weird thing to say to someone I can't
talk right now. Yeah, but because I'm about to go
live on the radio and I don't want to share
my health details, well I don't mind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Actually, yeah, Well you started to answer and then you
realize I've got twenty seconds left.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I mean, my only question for him was can I
take the blue and yellow pills at the same time?
And what happens?

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Terry? How are you mate? Terry?

Speaker 8 (01:14:20):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:14:21):
Here you go.

Speaker 19 (01:14:21):
Yeah, mate, I'm just ringing to say that I agree
with the decision that's being made about the descriptions of
the chemists. I mean, the study just as long as
the doctor too, if not more. And they certainly know
medicines inside out, probably more than the doctors. But the
other thing that I do annoyed was, and this is
just a personal thing. I ring up to make an

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appointment of the doctors, but I can't make an appointment
because they don't have rosters outside five weeks. And you think,
where the hell does fair? I mean, why can't you
make a future appointment. You're trying to plan things that
you can't because it's outside the roster time, and you
think it's teaching.

Speaker 15 (01:15:00):
Not for it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Yeah, because you want to get ahead of the you know,
if you want to go on holiday your book three
months out, but also especially when it's hard to get
into a place, so that does seem a little unfair.
There's only five weeks out. Yeah, yeah, thanks Trevor. A
bunch of people are texting in around Thomas's his call
before and he was saying he lived in Auckland. It's
really easy for him to get a doctor's appointment, to
get it in two days. Geez, lucky Thomas to see

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a doctor in a week. Takes me over six weeks
to get an appointment. I mean, there's no way I
can get into my doctor in two weeks, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, yeah, the last time I tried, I was three
weeks out. And I think they'd be more common than not.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
But this see says I phone my doctor for repeat
scripts and get them sent to the pharmacy only cost
twelve dollars. Yeah, so when if I ever ring up
my doctor, it says, if you want, you know, a
one for reception, two for this, three for repeat prescriptions. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
So what is that? Is that that tallyhealth that they
talk about. Yeah, keep this in.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Response to Thomas, We're not doing doctors out of business.
My doctor takes four to six weeks to get an appointment,
so he's clearly busy enough.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Yeah, keep those sixs coming through A nine to two
nine two. But there was a great discussion, and I
think apart from Thomas, most people are pretty happy about
this change to pharmacists being able to prescribe more medicines.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
This is an interesting point retired GP here. The reason
that prescribing and dispensing we're always separated was to remove
financial incentives to prescribe any particular medicine. Ah, that will
no longer apply to pharmacists. People follow incentives, whether they
realize it or not, the old kickbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, yeah, that is interesting. Okay, we'll see where that
one goes. But that is where we'll leave it for now.
Thank you very much to everyone who text and called
on that. As we mentioned that proposal, it is set
to come into play from June twenty twenty six if
it gets over the line, and then potentially with room
to extend that purview. Very interesting discussion.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
But coming up, say alis is a longer acting form
of viagra last about thirty six hours, says Sue.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
That is the information that we wanted to know. Thank
you very much, Sue.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Thanks Sue.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Yeah, a lot of texts about viagra and so see
very popular. We can see why right coming up after
three clock, tennis may be the best sport for longevity.
This is according to new research suggesting racket sports offer
the biggest boost to lifespan by combining a combining physical exercise,
mental focus in social interaction.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
But the question we've got for you is what sports
was best for your health?

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
nine two ninety two is the dex new sport and
weather coming up? You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope
you're having a great afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
Stick to the blue ones, not the yellow ones, says
it's Texter noted, okay, okay, thank you, good advice.

Speaker 12 (01:17:39):
Betty our voice.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
I hear the same, the big stories, the big issues,
the big trends, and everything in between. Matt Heath and
Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk said the very good Afternoons
you welcome back into the show seven past three.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Really great to have you listening.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
In So an article in the New York Times, this
is our new research on the best sports to prolong
your life. In other words, what sport is the health
So they looked at one hundred different sports in these
various studies and found one stands out above all others.
The long term studies found that tennis players may live
significantly longer than sedentary people and even longer than those

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who play many other sports. One Danish study found tennis
players live nearly ten years longer on average, with similar
research showing other sports have the strongest link to lower
risk of early death compared to activities like women running
or cycling. So, in terms of those one hundred different sports,
there was one right at the bottom. Can you have
a guess on which one was the most unhealthiest.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Sport to play? Esports?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
I don't know if esports was in there, it's done
in a pub. Darts yeah, bang on dards came out.
I mean, good for the mental health, not so good
for the physical health. But the question I've got for
you is what was the sport that had the most
impact on your health. I can understand why tennis was
right at the top there.

Speaker 4 (01:19:05):
Why why is tennis good for you? Is it because
you're fitness, There's there's changing lots of directions, so there's
a certain amount of flexibility to it. It's probably good
for the you know, you're going to have a real
good reaction time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Yep, all of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
So they found the high intensity, interval style, movement, coordination, balance,
mental focus, while also being highly social because that plays
a big part as well for your mental health, all
of which are linked to healthier aging.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Full body workout. I guess there would be.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
Yeah, and the social element as well, that would be
a massive part of it. I think tennis primarily is
a pretty social sport.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Out are you getting outside, getting a bit of vitamin
D and such?

Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
So what do you say, I we one hundred and
eighty ten eighty if you picked up one sport, what
was it that made the most difference to your health.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
I'm going to push back on it because I was
playing tennis at the you know, the ASP Tennis Center.
What if it's called now, is it called the Manuka
Honey Tennis Center?

Speaker 5 (01:19:58):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Well believe it is not given me any money, So
why do I have to mention it? Was fall into
the trap of mentioning the sponsor of a particular stadium.
You do, yeah, always get you the state where they
play the Classic every year. And I was playing with
a tennis there, yep, and massively did my my my
foot in right massively. I've got a hegland's deformity from

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playing tennis there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
What the hell is a hagland.

Speaker 4 (01:20:25):
It's when your chills, you know, your rips some some
bone out of the back of your heel and so
so you get this lump that sticks out the back.
So tennis wasn't great.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Tennis wasn't great.

Speaker 4 (01:20:39):
Limp for ages, ye, surfing Texas is surfing. Surfing's got
to be incredibly good for you, right high cardio.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
It's a massive workout.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
And if you bail, as long as you don't hit
your surfboard, you're not going to get a Hegland's deformity.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Hi, guys, tennis and table tennis. Tennis is great for
physical fitness and coordination of hand and eye. Table tennis
is even better for quick reaction and hand eye coordination.
I think table tennis should be compulsory school sport. Would
do wonders for our children as they grow up. Cheers,
Tony table tennis.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
The guy love table tennis as much as the necks man.
But I don't know if there's raising your heart rate
that much, is it?

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Do you remember when we played that game of table tennis,
Tyler that was filmed for some kind of charity or something.
I'm not sure what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
I'd only just forgotten it, mate, Were were playing table
tennis for bellcans or something?

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
We certainly were?

Speaker 11 (01:21:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
Yeah, who won?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Don't want to talk about it, mate.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
I did pickleball. Pickleball does it for me great socially
and competitively. And apparently the world's fastest growing sports is Glenn. Yeah,
so pickleball is that? Surely that gives you pretty much
everything you'd get from tennis. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
If anyone can explain pickleball to me like I get
it is incredibly popular here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
Everybody talking about pickleball. How is it different to tennis?
What are the actual rules?

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Is it just like a smaller court and shorter, shorter rackets,
so it's tennis on slow much effectively and intermediate.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Did you have patda tennis?

Speaker 8 (01:21:57):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
Isn't it just sort of a version of patta tennis?

Speaker 3 (01:22:00):
Maybe? If you know if you play pickleball, give us
a call. I one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Chris says, I've been playing tennis for sixty five years,
never got injured. Not even a heart attack on call
stopped me. My buddy's on court kept me alive long
enough for the paramedics to take over seven years ago,
and we're still playing twice a week. Chris m I
like he doesn't think, he doesn't consider a heart attack
as being injured.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Yeah, I'm glad you're still with us, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
But the fact that you had a heart attack on
court keep those things givens are on nine two nine
to two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
But what sport did the most for your health?

Speaker 12 (01:22:30):
Tell us?

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number
to call? Nine two nine two text it's eleven past three.
News talk said, be fourteen past three? What was the
best sport for your health. This is after new research
says that tennis is the best for longevity. Do you agree,
I wate one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is number
to call.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Tell that to my tennis elbow. Um that I didn't
get playing tennis? Is jeez? Okay?

Speaker 8 (01:22:51):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
That it's interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Get a tito. Hello, Hey, good to chat with you.
So what sport have you been undertaking that's been great
for your health?

Speaker 8 (01:23:03):
Jiu jitsu?

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Jiu jitsu? And why is that so good? Tea?

Speaker 8 (01:23:10):
Because well, to me to right, like a training increase
my strength and model coordination and a fitness and and
also give me more confidence in real life. And yeah,
and give me like the sort of like a nurturing,

(01:23:32):
the sort of attitude of not giving up. So it's
very reflecting the mets and you petice jiu jitsu on
the mets. It's just really reflecting the real life you
have during the day. You know, everything, the challenges or
the challenges your life is going to reflect on jiu
jitsu as well.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
How often do you what do you call saying having
a roll up or something describe going for a jiu
jitsu session as it called when you what do you
call a you know, a spar a sparring session and
jiu jitsu.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
Yeah, it's just like a well we have obviously like
a fitness a cardio, and then we have sparing by
you know, I'm almost sixty and I've never got, never
got doing this kind of martial arts, right like, so.

Speaker 6 (01:24:21):
What do you do?

Speaker 17 (01:24:22):
What do you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
A season? Note?

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
You know, so you go down to jiu jitsu class
or or whatever you call it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:29):
And then but what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
So you roll around with a couple of other guys
who you know. How does it work?

Speaker 8 (01:24:34):
Yeah, well we we obviously we start the less the
class doing some exercise I'm drinks, some are push up,
some like a squat and things like that. And then
after we do drills and then at the last stuf
and now we do roles. Sparing the roles right right,
When you roll with someone is like respect to other

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as respecting to the opponent. And when you know you tet,
you finish the role. So when you feel like then
you need to tap, you can't get out anymore. So
you just stepped.

Speaker 11 (01:25:06):
You know, It's just like a.

Speaker 8 (01:25:08):
It's very I love it. I've been there for nine
years and I really love it and one of the
sports and I never could imagine I could uh keeping
to do for so long. Like you know, like soccer
or swimming or tennis. Jiu jitsu is taking you for
all life. That's what really, that's what it really does.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
Good do you have you compete gone to any competitions?

Speaker 7 (01:25:30):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:25:31):
No, no competition, No, no, it's just like for fun
to be friends and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
Yeah, and so you have you have makes that you
go and have what you call a roll with as
you know or is it you're randomly assigned at the gym.

Speaker 8 (01:25:44):
I know, we just we're just picking the people up.
We're just picking the people on the walls, right we
we we start up on the wall and then you say, yeah,
just roll, just have a friendly role.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
You know, what kind of injuries can you get from
jiu jitsu? Shoulder injuries? Problem?

Speaker 8 (01:25:59):
Oh, you don't get the injury that's why, because only
get the injury when you want to put your ego.
When you want to put your ego, yeah right, yeah,
you want to want to be stronger than someone when
you cannot be stronger than someone, so.

Speaker 4 (01:26:10):
You can always tap out before that happens.

Speaker 8 (01:26:12):
Yeah, yeah, is that the ammunition of the jiu jitsu
is about the technical aspect of the sport, is not
like a being stronger than someone. Yeah, really can really
get hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:26:25):
I mean I feel like I feel like everyone that
takes up jiu jitsu feels the same as you do.
It's you know, when you hear someone's taking up jiu jitsu,
they just expouse the value of it everywhere.

Speaker 11 (01:26:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
I mean even Mark Zuckerberg's talking constant about jiu jitsu. Now,
isn't he he got cut, didn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:26:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
Yeah, and he competed in some competitions. So good on
your titu.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
Thank you think jiu jitsu very good?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty You like Tito
jiu jitsu is the one that works for you. Chinese
is ocean swimming is great for my mental health and joints.
I always think that people that live.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
By the ocean and go for an ocean swim every
day are the chilliest, happiest people you live in meet.
I say it's a crop combination between cold water therapy
and the exercise as they get and just the nature
experience about it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
A bit meditative.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Yeah, I think there's something about it that is just
in line with what we're supposed to do as humans
to such a level that I know a few people
that live live by the ocean, swim every day and
they just seem to have everything sorted.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Yeah, so true.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Very chill people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
So what sport did you take up that was best
for your overall health? It is nineteen past three.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
We'll be back very shortly, Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.
Call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty on news talk zby.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Plenty of techs caming through a ninety two ninety two.

Speaker 4 (01:27:46):
The sixth says, piss off, pickledball, tennis all the way,
even got married on the tennis court, and even played
a game on our wedding day. My wife and I
in suit and wedding dressed respectively.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Oh how romantic, Oh lovely Martin? How are you?

Speaker 11 (01:28:00):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (01:28:01):
Good, Matt and Tyler. Look, I've been playing tennis for
over fifty years now. Yeah, I've played clubs. It's a
great lifestyle sport. I mean, I've play lots of other
sports over the years, but you know, you go for
a while at running and squash and stock and things
like that, then you sort of stop, you know, your
lifestyle gets things getting the way. But with tennis the
beauty is you can just you can stop and start

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so easy, just you know, to join a club, go
down a club and play club days and then you
might be away for a month and you come back
so easily, whereas the other ones, like you get injured
or you get put off. That's it so really, I
mean it's very social. You meet a huge number of people,

(01:28:45):
you know, these larger clubs, and it's suitability lifestyle. And
the other thing is.

Speaker 20 (01:28:53):
There's a lot of people in.

Speaker 17 (01:28:54):
Their seventies eighties playing, you know, and you wouldn't know it.
You think they're only sixties. They're a lot younger, just
a matter of But you don't want to overdo it
when you start, like anything. You know, I've known one
or two people have overdone at the beginning. But just
take it ease and then get into a habit. And
it's an easy habit because you just know you're at
a club, You've always got people to play.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Are you one of those you know tennis players that's
been doing it for a long time, maybe being around
the sun a few times, that just has excellent court
positioning and so you end up running a lot less
than everyone else.

Speaker 17 (01:29:30):
Oh, I wouldn't say that. I mean, you get better
as you approve. You probably pay pay people your own standards.
So I mean, you know, like Stunt and Carlovaska fit
and things like that. I mean, you'd probably be wanting
to play a moderate game. It wouldn't be like pickleball
or pat of ten or something like that. You wouldn't
moderate sort of because I.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Played this guy called Ian who was seventy eight, and
he would just I'd just be running all over and
he would just really noisy. Well whatever I thought I
was doing that, I'd hit the ball straight back to
him if I had it back, and then I'd be
on the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
And back and forth, and he just he he's just
taken a couple of steps. At the time, he was like,
you know, it was like he had a laser pointer
and I was a cat.

Speaker 17 (01:30:08):
Yeah, a lot of strategy, strategy and playing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
The tea Huggers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
What do you think of pickleball?

Speaker 17 (01:30:14):
Pickleball, Martin, I've never played pickleball or the other one.
Although people who played tennis seem to like it, I mean,
they can't criticize it. I mean, I like all sports.
As I said, I've played many of the sports. It's
great to get out there. And you're out there in
the fresh air too, that's the other big thing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you get a bit of vitamin
D with the sun and such, Martin. But a lot
of a lot of tennis players seem to complain about pickleball.
They say they don't like the sound of it. They
say that a whole lot of tennis courts have been
converted to pickleball courts and such. But you don't have
any of that animosity, No, I don't.

Speaker 17 (01:30:47):
I know that people have tried it in different places.
Han't hasn't necessary worked. It's a new thing, and good
on them for having a go another sport. Look, you know,
people give it a try. But tennis, I mean purists
will obviously are the different games anyway, you know, and
what might suit one?

Speaker 15 (01:31:05):
You know.

Speaker 17 (01:31:06):
I guess the big thing for me is because if
you go to club, you've got players. That's the thing.

Speaker 20 (01:31:10):
You've got to get.

Speaker 17 (01:31:12):
The club that's got enough players I mean if you
have your own court at home, you don't have any players,
and you meet people and there's always people to play.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
Yeah, what about squash, Martin, Do you have a bit
of a rivalry with squash players?

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
I used to play some.

Speaker 17 (01:31:25):
No, we are playing. We have a lot of squash
players and it's a great sport. I used to play
squash a lot when I was younger. I stopped playing
was about you know, it was about twenty. But the
thing is a great game. You know, it's a great game.
But it's possibly it's more suited to, you know, a
younger audience, although people in older ages do play. Yep,

(01:31:46):
it's a great game.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
Yeah, good on you, Martin, Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
We said that at the same time. That's good on
your Martin's my saying, Tyler, you can have it.

Speaker 12 (01:31:53):
You can have it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Well done, Martin, You're a good man. Oh one hundred
and eighty ten eighty you like, Martin? Is tennis the
ultimate sport. That's what research says in terms of longevity.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
This Texas says, hey, chaps loved listing this afternoon. Mountain
biking does it for me. It keeps me my mind
occupied and my body healthy, my bike mechanic employees, my
physio employed, and sometimes even my surgeon employed. It's all
round keeps everyone working. Have a good day.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Yeah, great text.

Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Oh your mountain biking. You know that's a high that's
a high injury sport right here. Yeah, because when you
say it's that that tennis is the best sport for you,
does it have to be a combination between being you know, uh,
you know great for your your all parts of your
body and fitness and all that kind of stuff, but
have a limited amount of injuries? Isn't that isn't that

(01:32:42):
wouldn't that have to factor into it?

Speaker 15 (01:32:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:32:43):
Spot on?

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Because they did the grid, so they ran through on
these longevity studies, all these different sports, and there were
a different credit category. So one was cardio exertion exertion,
one was how many calories you're burning the injury rates, right,
how much movement you make during that particular sport. And
then the social aspect. I don't know how they measured
the social aspect. They've just given a rating out of

(01:33:05):
one to five. But you're right, I mean I think
the aspect is big there. Oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number call. What was the sport
that did the best for you in terms of health?

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
This Texas says beer pong.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
That's a great sport. Love that it is. Twenty seven
past three.

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Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Thank you very much, Raileian, and thank you everybody who
text and called over the healthiest sport for you. This
was on the back of the New York Times research
and tennis came out ahead of the curve, and apparently
on average, tennis players lived ten years longer than people
who play other sports. But certainly a lot of techs
coming through for jiu jitsu and pickleball was right up there,

(01:35:04):
So thank you very much. We're just going to change
tech for the next half an hour or so. Mentioned
at the start of one o'clock. I'm in the market
for a new lawn mower, and I made a suggestion.
The one that I'd kind of narrowed down as a
high potential was this lawnmower electric. But it was corded,
so you plug it in, you get out the extension cord,
and you do what you need to do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
It was called the Azito.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I'm not getting paid by a Zito, clear because it's
one hundred and fifty nine dollars for this particular moa.
But man, did the text machine absolutely explode?

Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
And the order and tell me if I'm wrong? One
hundred and eighty ten eighty. But the order of credibility
in a lawn mower is a combustion engine lawn mower.
The likes of your mass put then miles and miles
and miles back. And this is just put lormos you're pushing. Yeah,
I mean, right on, it's obviously got the most credibility
of it. But I've seen your backyard and it's on

(01:35:57):
a forty five degree angle.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
That'll be tough. Yeah, that'd be very tough.

Speaker 4 (01:36:01):
Then then after the you know, you're properly a lawn
mower that's powered as God intended. After that you've got
your battery lawnmowers, electric lawn mowers, and then probably in
another hemisphere down from that, you've got your humiliating lawn
mower with the cord.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Well, what I didn't expect is, I mean pushback is
put in it lightly. There was hatred. There was hatred
in the text machine, and here was a couple that
came through at the time, handing your man card. Tilert, Tylert, No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
I used to like you. In fact, I never liked you,
but I hate you even more now.

Speaker 8 (01:36:38):
This one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
I love, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
But this plug and mower idea is the worst thing
I've ever heard positioned on the airwaves. Tyler, No, no, no.
Petrol all the way. Electric sounds good in theory, but
it is a terrible idea. You've got to go petrol,
and the text just keep coming through and through a.

Speaker 4 (01:36:55):
Mass for petrol. Lawnmower, you know, one hundred and forty
cc operator. That'll do you for life. You will never
have to get another lawnmower. And they're so energy efficient.
You know, if you're running like sure, you've got the
advantage of you're plugging, humiliatingly plugging it into your wall,
but then having to readjust the the cord one thousand

(01:37:18):
times during the mowing strag.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
It behind you.

Speaker 4 (01:37:20):
Yeah yeah there, But but the battery will you know,
most of those battery ones, you're not You're not going
to get through a decent lawn without having to change
the battery, right, Yeah, But but just a mass sport,
a mass sport petrol lawn mower is there's so much
credibility in that. You'll be on your you'll be on
your on your burn and you'll get you'll get like

(01:37:42):
little people like saluting you because.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
There's thread with the mass port.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
There's so much battery powered lawn mowing going on. It
doesn't make the right sound. You're not even having to
yank it to get it started. It's it's it's laying them.
They they've fallen to pieces. They can't handle it. They're
made out of plastic. Terrible. You're on a mass sport
and you can. You don't have to buy a new

(01:38:08):
massport lawnmwer just and they can. There's there's places around
it that'll fix them for you when they break down.
And the only thing that really goes wrong is that
the rubber around your spark plug sort of disintegrates over time.

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Is that easy to replace though? The spark plug? I mean, yeah,
what do you do? You just pop it open and
chucking a spark plug.

Speaker 4 (01:38:29):
And it's not like you have to flip the bonnet up.
You just replace the spark plug if you have to,
will you will you get a new you know, you
get more a new rubber cap for it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Sounds like a lot of Edmond to me. But what
do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I eatee hundred eighty T and eighty help me out, honestly,
the corded lawn mower? Am I making a bad choice
if I go with the courted lawmer?

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Hey, guys, love the show. The worst lawnmower in history
must be the fly Moh, what's the flow?

Speaker 10 (01:38:53):
Mo?

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
That's ah that we ho the have and yeah, see
that is embarrassing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:59):
That's on a cord.

Speaker 10 (01:39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call if you've gone electric?

Speaker 3 (01:39:04):
Has it actually worked for you? Or do you reckon?
Like Matt's?

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Is credibility relying on petrol when it comes to mowing
your lawns?

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Tyler, if you use a cord lawnmower, then we're a
fanny pack as well with the sweatband and some here
spro How.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
Did you know? Nineteen ninety two is the Ticks number?
But love to hear from you. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is that number of call? It's twenty
five to.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
Four your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Tyler Adams
afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk
said be.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Twenty two to fourth on terms of credibility status? What
is the best lawmark petrol, electric cord or those wound
fly moos?

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten is a number of call?

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
Okay, we'll talk to Jam. But then I found I've
found something for you, Tyler. Okay, right, let's just say
Briggs and Stratton.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Okay, okay, all right, this sounds good.

Speaker 21 (01:39:52):
Get a jam, goody?

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
How are you very good?

Speaker 21 (01:39:55):
I bought my husband a little trick one twenty one
years ago, and let's going like.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
A twenty one years ago for electric?

Speaker 10 (01:40:04):
Is that is?

Speaker 4 (01:40:05):
Has it got a cord? Or is it a battery?

Speaker 6 (01:40:07):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:40:07):
No, he would have a bat tree. It's got a leitch.
One slug around and away she goes right.

Speaker 4 (01:40:12):
And so you say it's a cord? Did you say
cord cord?

Speaker 21 (01:40:15):
Your power? Olio markets called it's the Olio mac. It's
an Italian one.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
Oh yeah? And how how long is you called? How
many meters are you running?

Speaker 21 (01:40:24):
Oh? It's quite a long cord?

Speaker 3 (01:40:26):
Is he ever never run over it?

Speaker 9 (01:40:28):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Extension cords or a dime a dozen, but no, never
never run over it.

Speaker 21 (01:40:32):
And it's a night's weel like one need had a
hot trouble. And he just picks up because we're plus
au plus sloping section and he can pick it up
and carry it up the steps from the.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Law and put it away and he doesn't have to,
you know, reposition the cord one thousand and.

Speaker 21 (01:40:47):
Fifty times and no why the court carries cord behind him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
And goes like a bye, speak of my language, Jan,
he's looking good so far for the cord. It okay,
all right, all right, keep them coming through on one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Good start. I don't know
if it's going to continue, though, I get a dar
we as if I said that, right, dar will yeah, hi,
I know, not save with chet.

Speaker 11 (01:41:09):
With you good get kid.

Speaker 22 (01:41:12):
So yeah, I actually got. I got a bunch of
lawn mowers because I got I got a cut few
grass on the slope. So I initially started with a
petrol lawnmower. That's work fine, but over the time it's
used to get charmed because of the pink grass, and
I have to get a service every year. So I
thought maybe I will grade to a robotic more so,

(01:41:33):
I got a husk Onana one which has been there
for like four years. Kind of does like a decent job,
but oh time it gets stuck. So in order to
support I got another ago self prefer a lot more
to help it out. So yeah, for me, like none
of one work. Probably I would rather go with the

(01:41:55):
petrol one. Looking at the kind of a landscape that
I have.

Speaker 4 (01:41:59):
And the power you need. You know you can't there's
no there's no electric more that's got the same power
as a petrol lawn mower.

Speaker 22 (01:42:06):
I did a lot of before I bought the Eggo one.
It's like a fifty six was quite powerful, but icnically
go down to like more than four or five. Oh yes,
I go down, get stuck, and the battery over heat.
So yeah, not an angel solution so far.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
See that's what I don't want.

Speaker 15 (01:42:23):
I want.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
I want a lawn mower to be able to just
chew through everything. I don't want to pick up sticks
and stones off the lawn. I just want the lawn
mowder to go over all of those things and just
make my life easy.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
What you want, Tyler, is this Briggs and Stress and
Stratton lawn mower one hundred and forty eight cc. I've
just found it on trade me.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Yeah, how much do they want?

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
They want a hundred bucks by now pick it up
from Ellesleie. No problem. Good good for someone who knows
how to fix this. These cosmetic problems. It's only got
cosmetic problems.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Oh, a couple of dents I can handle with.

Speaker 7 (01:42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
One wheel just came off.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Okay, it's a little bit more than a few did.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
Lawn mower engine good working condition, starts in one go.
You can get a little plastic. We will put it
on there. You'll be fine. Hundred bucks start stop is broken,
but pull start okay, and runs on one full speed anyway.
If you want to stop, just stop directly. That's only
a hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:16):
It's not bad. Can you see me? That link is
at the buy now yep.

Speaker 4 (01:43:19):
One hundred bucks and a lot of credibility in that,
a lot of credibility.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
Riggs and Stratton.

Speaker 4 (01:43:24):
Yeah, Graham, welcome, Hi, How are you very good?

Speaker 19 (01:43:30):
Good?

Speaker 17 (01:43:31):
Good?

Speaker 23 (01:43:31):
I had a two stroke Massport. It was about forty
years old and powerful airs. Cut anything. Pick up your
sticks and stones.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
I want that's what I want.

Speaker 23 (01:43:46):
Well, yeah, but one afternoon it broke down, and my
partner Linn, she said, bug of this, Let's go fishing.
So we went out fishing lake, caught bloody good fish,
came in, went to Morons along the way home to
get my lawnmar fixed, and then got into the Lawnma

(01:44:07):
shop before me talk to these boys Marty and Greg
at mourns Will Still shop said I don't fix that Lawmar.
And so by the time I got my beautiful old
law Mar I'd had for most of my life into
the shop. Nephew Marty says, I was down at te
paper last week and I saw one of these. Ah yeah, yeah,

(01:44:37):
cheeky bastard. And so then next thing, you know, my
partner Linde says, we'll take that still lawnmer over there,
the battery powered one. Well, yeah, it looks nice, but
it hasn't got enough guts to know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Yes, yes, that is that is power, powerful stuff, you know,
And that's when you when you skimp on an eage
trimmer as well, there's each trimmers that they're selling now,
hardly stores that can't even get through Cacolia.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
On the sides, Yeah, because I want something they can
do a bit of prunin on on some of the
shrubbery as well, you know, because I'm you know, sometimes
I just like to get the lawnmarer up there to
help me out.

Speaker 23 (01:45:16):
You want something else, I've seen that where a guy.

Speaker 24 (01:45:21):
He picked his ride on lawnmar up with the front
end loader and Cuddy's hit the top of his hedge
with it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Genius, genius. That is going the extra mile.

Speaker 4 (01:45:32):
That that that's dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:45:35):
Can't be that dangerous expensive?

Speaker 4 (01:45:37):
There's if there's that story. Who was telling that story
about the guy who was talking about cutting the hold
to try something happened lost his fingers.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
I'm sure it happened.

Speaker 10 (01:45:52):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:45:53):
What you need is a lawnmar that'strong enough. And I
don't think they've invented this to to get through cabba
tree leaves without wrapping it around there because there was
a big bone of contention. Yeah, because I'd made the
lawn and then my dad would go.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Around I think cuts through those beer boys. Yeah, Steve,
how are you good?

Speaker 8 (01:46:13):
Mate?

Speaker 15 (01:46:13):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:46:14):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 11 (01:46:16):
Shaw?

Speaker 20 (01:46:16):
Away from that bric and threat?

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
And please no good the one the one with only
three wheels, Well.

Speaker 20 (01:46:23):
They're good on they're good on flat grounds, but your
mate just sold. You told us that that you got
a forty five degree.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Angle because it's pretty steep.

Speaker 20 (01:46:29):
Yeah, well, two strokes the only way to go, mate,
Otherwise you're a run out of the top of a.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Four stroke, right, So so for a lay man, what's
what's what's the big difference between the two stroke and
the four stroke?

Speaker 3 (01:46:42):
There's two stroke more power?

Speaker 20 (01:46:45):
No, no, no, you got you got the oil and
the central ail and the ptril show that does you
crank and him? And doesn't it? The four stroke? You
got the sum to put the oil in the sum
right at an angle angle drawn, you'll run out of
oil and you do a creak, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
So like so what sort of was sort of brandon
my going for for the two strokes?

Speaker 20 (01:47:10):
Victor?

Speaker 3 (01:47:11):
Victor?

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
That's a classic, isn't it?

Speaker 19 (01:47:16):
Victor?

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
Two stroke Victor law, mar wa are you selling one? Steve?
You got you got any in the garage?

Speaker 6 (01:47:23):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:47:23):
I have cop one of the garage? Right, you can't
have a baby.

Speaker 4 (01:47:28):
Fla for the weekend.

Speaker 20 (01:47:30):
Don't don't go near a four stroke if you've got land, mate,
That's all.

Speaker 4 (01:47:34):
Right, Okay, that is a good that's a good point,
because I mean, I'm trying to find them. Four strokes
here we go. Oh, look at that.

Speaker 20 (01:47:44):
Good good oil and two strokes as well, good oil.
I can't go to buying any crap or.

Speaker 4 (01:47:51):
What about a two strokes a Zuki have a mo?
Would you support that, Steve?

Speaker 20 (01:47:56):
Yeah, I don't give a bag of one of those
crap border What do you mean, O crow of a.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Good one like your style? Mat Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:48:09):
Tyler for me and buy now seven hundred dollars. I
can get you a two stroke a MOA Suzuki too
straight serviced, okay, starts with quite a few cord pools.

Speaker 3 (01:48:23):
Yep, how many ks on?

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
It does have a fuel leak around the scene.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Stop still looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
These duddle moles. One's gone three wheels, one's got an
oil leak. Yeah, well I want clean, don't ready to go?
This is cool this one no cord, no Kimlin and
cord mahi.

Speaker 11 (01:48:40):
How are you.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
You very good? What do you reckon?

Speaker 18 (01:48:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:48:47):
All day any day? Petrol more yep.

Speaker 8 (01:48:50):
And why.

Speaker 10 (01:48:52):
I tried oil thores.

Speaker 12 (01:48:54):
Because I fixed those stuff just just for myself, and
I find petrol more is the most practical options any
any other alternatives. So people talk about I'm going to
save on fuel, you know, like I forgot a decent
phase back yeard, Like you know, six seven hundred meters

(01:49:16):
per land. All you need is like ten liters per year.
You're spending twenty bucks a penny bucks mats.

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Absolutely no, no fuel crisis is going to you know,
get you off a petrol lawnmow.

Speaker 11 (01:49:29):
It's not going to.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Break the band contains of the picture that you use.

Speaker 10 (01:49:31):
Exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:49:32):
We're talking about twenty bucks savings. You know, that doesn't
make any sense to just go from alternative. You know,
electric are battery once and they will.

Speaker 4 (01:49:43):
Do your whole you know, like you see all these
people that are doing half the lawn and then they're
having to go and charge the battery. Yeah, you're not
going to need to do.

Speaker 10 (01:49:50):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:49:51):
What about the muss though, may he? You know, do
you wear the muffs or do you go muffless?

Speaker 18 (01:49:57):
What was that again?

Speaker 3 (01:49:57):
The year muffs?

Speaker 12 (01:50:00):
Well it differens The one I have is under the
sixty eight or seventy decibel, So yeah, well difference you
can join me.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
I just think you know, if you're wearing mrs and
you're mowing the lawn, to me, you just I mean
that that takes away some credibility there. You know, hard enough,
you've got the you've got the fossil fuel lawnmole going.
Don't don't try and get health and safety on it
with the MS.

Speaker 8 (01:50:24):
Well I do.

Speaker 12 (01:50:25):
I do always go with the safety goods on it
because it's sometimes you know that the stones kick kicks
out of them if you don't have the cacer, that
just kicks the storm out of it. So that's not
a good idea. But yeah, well if it's from health
and safety perspect too, yes, you have to have a
safety goggles and and of course safety built.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Are you a hard worker?

Speaker 10 (01:50:50):
Mah well yeah, my name's safe.

Speaker 4 (01:50:53):
Yeah. Nominatively is it nominative determinism where if you called
mahi then then you just it just infuses you with
hard work.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, very well named. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Mahe one hundred and eightyeen eighty to number get a
Marion Ill boys.

Speaker 25 (01:51:10):
I used to work at ninety one a M way
back in the day, and in nineteen ninety I had
a client called Fightclone Cycles and Moers and I used
to when I come from CG with my two boys
and my ten year old when after he played rugby
or cricket. I would spend the rest of Saturday mowing

(01:51:33):
the lawn on my property with push mower. And my
ten year old said to me, honestly, and my ten
year old said to me, Mom, if you bet a
motor mooer, I'll mow the lawns for you. So I
immediately dropped the push moller, went in and rang ross
at fightlone cycles and Moers and Sydenham in christ Juries

(01:51:54):
and he I said, bring out three lawnmowers that a
ten year old can handle. So he brought out three.
Immediately brought out three lawnmowers. I said, okay, kyl keep
behind those and tell me which one you want. He
wanted this mass Port petrol mala. I said, okay, done deal.
To this day, I've still got it, and my son

(01:52:15):
is forty six. Now, I've had it for thirty six years.
It works brilliantly. I get it serviced and it is
just a dream sell thirty six years old.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
A cyclone cycles and mowers.

Speaker 11 (01:52:29):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
What they called it?

Speaker 25 (01:52:31):
Phone cycles and mows?

Speaker 4 (01:52:32):
It used to be They're gone, are they?

Speaker 7 (01:52:36):
I think?

Speaker 10 (01:52:36):
So?

Speaker 25 (01:52:37):
Yeah, was back in nineteen ninety and that was that
was only ninety one Z in which I worked for,
and said.

Speaker 4 (01:52:44):
B did they have the Black Thunders yet at that point?

Speaker 25 (01:52:49):
Yeah, we got them. We got the Black Thunders there,
and we had James and James and Ken the more
un men and yeah, and then of course James, then
we had Still and Simon came on and I was
there for eighteen years, and then of course we got
the We got Classic Hits and Coast and hierarchy and

(01:53:10):
sport and you know, we've got the six stations. Yeah,
while I was there for the eighteen years.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Well there you go. The and Phil and Simon ended
up on this show for a while as well.

Speaker 3 (01:53:20):
They did.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Yeah, yeah, all those years later, Massport all the way.
Thank you very much for your call, Marian. I think
we've got time for Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
How you doing, man?

Speaker 24 (01:53:28):
Yeah? Mate, it must be the old radio people coming
out now, mate, because I worked in radio for ten
years and my mind is about the way way older
than that, like twenty five years old. It's I think
it was a mass sport, but the point being it
was a Brigs and Stratton motor right, well it is,
and I think I had a fit service back in

(01:53:48):
two thousand and six, it was the last time I
was service.

Speaker 4 (01:53:51):
They years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
I've been it's pretty good.

Speaker 24 (01:53:53):
I've been keeping this thing going. It's got to the
stage now when it's got no pull start anymore.

Speaker 18 (01:53:59):
The actual.

Speaker 24 (01:54:02):
Piece pulls at back failed, so I ripped the whole
top off and it just had the flywheel and I
used to wind it round the white disc and get
you know, and basically manually started.

Speaker 4 (01:54:12):
I'll take there's a lot of credibility in that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:14):
Absolutely, absolutely, I'll take it off your hands for fifty ix.

Speaker 24 (01:54:16):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
I mean I think, look, I've narrowed it down.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
I think I'm going to go with the Victor Mustang
nineteen allied two stroke, eight hundred and fifteen dollars petrol.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Job done, Job done. Seven to four.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
It'd be news talks, hebe. It is five to four,
Bluetooth the mass Sonny's decent boots. Don't get too many
second chances with Lormon's here.

Speaker 3 (01:54:43):
Yeah, that's fair, It is fair, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
The every's at the end of the show. Thanks so
much for your calls and texts the Paul Holmes Broadcaster
over the year. Here the dooplasy Ellen is up next,
and after five she's got the lawyer who represented the
Palestinian activists against the Guardians of the Superfund, and one
on what happens now? But right now, Tyler, my good friend,
why am I playing this nineteen seventy six banger from
the Steve Miller.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
Band, Take the Money and Run? What a tune? This
is a of This is it?

Speaker 2 (01:55:09):
Because we had that discussion about Fraudstairs and Gentleman Dann
and christ which she forgave, forgave that woman.

Speaker 3 (01:55:18):
But I think, don't take the money and run. Just
don't take the money at all if it doesn't belong
to you.

Speaker 4 (01:55:22):
She stole four hundred thousand, Yeah, you forgave her after
she paid. She stole four to fifty. He forgave her
after if you paid four hundred back. I believe was
the story. You got most of them there anyway, What
a great chain. We'll be back live tomorrow from mid day,
but until then you're gonna.

Speaker 6 (01:55:37):
Taste together from us.

Speaker 14 (01:55:38):
Why don't you

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
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