Full Show Podcast: 21 August 2026

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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hope you are having a fantastic afternoon.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Matt Heath, Hello, Hello, Tyler, I am having a fantastic afternoon. Actually,
thank you for this delicious coffee you just made for me.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
My pleasure mate, Just a sweet splash of milk in there,
just how you like it.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
You're getting very good at making I know you. I
know you're well mate. I know you well. I buy
the coffees in the morning and then you then you
provide the freeway. Yeah, yeah, I deal, We've got that.
I'll take it from the company.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
It's a good deal for me, good deal for you. Hey,
I've got a question for you. And this shocked me
this morning when my partner Tracy, I guess you have
to call her a fiance now you do. When my
betrothed to Tracy said to me they have to take
the dog for two to day. Did you know that?
You mean, that's surprise. You've had this dog for eleven years.
I only thought you need to walk a dog once

(01:14):
a day. You call once a day. Yeah, I haven't
thought once a day was pretty good. What so there's
days there there's there's no walkies. I don't think there's
Oh well, I mean there's probably been days when there's
no walkies.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Oh yeah, there's a few of those days. I've got
a few of those days.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
But I just didn't know that the I think this
is an onerous precedent, really, that you have to walk
the dog twice days. This dog really need to be
walked twice a day, hundred percent. Yeah, he's got his
dog door, he can go out and you can run
around the yard.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
A lot of my life is just walking my dog.
But I know that at least to you, if you're
not getting to and I mean, look, Colin's got little leggs.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I know that. Yeah, these little stumpy legs.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Got little stumpy legs, and maybe the smaller dogs one
and a half. At least you've got to give them,
you know, just when you.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Reckon, Colin gets more of a walk running down the
hallway in my house where there's little, stumpy little legs
than your dog Pipper. It's on a half hour run
around the neighborhood. Is he a pain in the ass?
Left he doesn't get a second walk. The thing about walks,
it's not the distance, it's the amount of sniffing. Yes,
especially for sniffy dogs, you want to get them out

(02:21):
there sniffing as much as properly. That's what they want
to do. Yeah, it's not really about the walking, it's
about reading the news basically for the end of the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, we might bring this up a little bit later on. Actually,
how many times do you think you have to walk
your dog?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is one enough?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Sometimes none? I mean, if you've got a little dog
with little legs, does that mean that you don't need
to go as far.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I've just never heard that the expectation was too I'm
surprised that you met. I was wondering why he was
getting walked twice about He's been so tired a little
of this time. Tracy just didn't want to walk with me.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Right, we might bring that up a little bit later on,
but right now, let's have a discussion about airbnbs, so
a couple of stories on the go.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
The first one was Methvin.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
It is facing a growing debate over whether Airbnb is
helping the town's economy or making it harder for locals
to find affordable homes and damaging the community. So as
it stands, about fifteen percent of Methvin Methans housing supply
are airbnbs and that's caused locals to fear it they
are losing the essence of the town. But the other
big story that has popped up today in regards to

(03:18):
airbnbs is a bit of a fight between an airbnb
owner and the christ Church City Council and mb SO.
Mb has backed the christ Chut City Council's ruling that
and apartments in the city being used as an airbnb
council as a change of use, meaning the owners must
get council approval or stop offering it as a short
term accommodation. So the owners had argued they were previously

(03:39):
told by the council their Airbnb use would not require
a change of use, but mb upheld the council's notice
requiring them to either get the necessary approvals or return
the property to residential use. So effectively, these owners told
the council that they were going to live in it.
It was just going to be a standard household. So
they got the required consents under those rules. But almost
as soon as the property was ready to go, they

(04:01):
started to advertise it online as an Airbnb, and the
council came back to them and said, hang on a minute.
You didn't say it was going to be rented a
short term accommodation. You need to pay additional charges and
get different consents for that particular property.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And also access and facility for people with disabilities and
that kind of stuff. Isn't there more onerous requirements if
you're being seen in that way? Yeah, that seems I
don't know. So they're saying that it's transient, rotational and
commercial in character as opposed to a tenant that is
there all the time. Yes, what does that matter? What

(04:35):
does it matter if you've got different people in the
same house. It's the same house, right, Why are they
so worried about that?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
As on this the balance councils I've got to get
right though, because these rules came into place I believe
about five years ago when Airbnb started to rock it up,
particularly in christ Church and elsewhere around the country, and
then they started getting the pushback from the public saying,
hang on a minute, how are people buying up these
houses allowed to rent them out as a business and
are not facing these regulations that a normal business would

(05:06):
have to would have to abide by as a commercial premises.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Basically, why don't they remove those onerous requirements from the
other businesses?

Speaker 2 (05:15):
And well, that's another way to look at it. That
would have been nice for the other businesses. I suppose, Well, yeah,
because I always think about that.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
It's like, you don't go there if a place isn't
good enough, right, if it doesn't provide what you need
for you to rent it, whatever kind of accommodation short
term accommodation is. You look it up online that does
not providing what you want, and it's got a bad reputation,
it's a bit rubbish. People won't won't go there, so
you reckon. The council will stay out of it.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
They've gone too hard because they have tried to particularly
in christs they've really tried to change the rules when
it comes to Airbnb's you reckon, Maybe they should just
step out of it. As long as they are paying
whatever text they need to pay running it as a
business or an airbnb short term rental accommodation to stay away.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I'm just always uncomfortable with people buying houses and the
meaning all these rules about what they can do with
their house. You've bought it, sure that you can do
it you want with that, but I get it it's
a bit rough on you know, other types of accommodation motels, hotels, hostels,
all those kind of stuff, especially in a place like Methvin.
I can understand that that's hard because you know, they're

(06:18):
losing business and they've got to pay more and do
a whole lot of different stuff that these other people haven't.
And there's the other side of it as well, that
the people in Methven are complaining because their community doesn't
exist because their streets are full of houses that have
got transient people in that they can't form a community with. Yeah,
so there's two bits of pressure on it. Yeah. But
also the other side of it is who are you
to tell me what to do with the house I've bought?

(06:39):
If I'm paying the mortgage, then get out.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Interesting question if you're running an airbnb at the moment,
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What sort of regulations
have you faced from your particular council. How hard is
it to run an Airbnb now? And if you're on
the other side of the coin that you're in a
place that has a lot of Airbnbs and it's killing
the soul of your community, do you think the council
needs to be more tell us your thoughts. I eight
one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number of nine

(07:03):
two nine two is the text number?

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Is?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Well, it is thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
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Speaker 2 (07:18):
It is sixteen past one. So we're talking about a
couple of stories in the news when it comes to Airbnb.
But the latest one was a fight between some Airbnb
owners and christ Church and the council. Now MB has
stepped in another back to the christ Church City Council over
its decision that using a home as an Airbnb can
account is a change of use, meaning those particular owners

(07:39):
now need to apply for different consents and approval and
could face extra building requirements in that particular case.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
Mb have taken their laser like saron Esque focus on
the biometrics at the airport that they spend thirty two
million dollars on. It didn't do anything to move over
to christ Church City Council to slam in Airbnb. Yeap,
something they're more comfortable with. Maybe this is ongoing, says
The stext are driven by the Motel Association because Airbnb
aren't subject to the rules that they are. So is

(08:09):
that the solution that you just remove the rules from
the motels and the hostels rather than forcing the airbnbs
to add all this additional rubbish.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I mean, I just need to mull on that that
is less regulation. That's the council's step in a way.
I mean, if you're a motel owner or you run
a hotel, whatever it is, and you have to abide
by those regulations, what are they and do they make
logical sense? I mean that I think that's an interesting
question that if the motel owners are complaining, the airbnb
owners don't have to abide by the same regulations as US.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, MBA, describing them as onerous. NB said the new
use potentially created additional, more onerous requirements. Yeah, I mean
including requirements concerning access and facilities for people with disabilities.
They use the word owners.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's a sneaky way to make running an airbnb particularly hard, right,
because there has been all these conversations around the number
of airbnbs for community. So maybe this is just almost
like a trojan way to say you can run airbnb,
but we're going to make it particularly tough. Yeah, I'm
an agent, and so over council extortion, old people can't
afford their rates, allowing crap in for housing to get

(09:18):
more rates without infrastructure. Is this tex Star, Let's go
to ben how are.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
You you guys? Obviously this problem overseas and they brought
in different regulations and stuff, and especially in Europe. And
now what people are doing is they're selling three hundred
dollars T shirts and it comes with a free night's accommodation.
So now they're no longer in accommodation space.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
They're in the retail space, right.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
And so you get the gift of the accommodation with
the T shirt.

Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, exactly, the gift of the use of the accommodation.
So you no longer have to pay a bed tax,
you no longer have to buy it by the rules
and regulations because you're not actually selling the use of
a you're not getting any rent off it, you're not
selling any use of the property.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So then to shut that down, they would have to
have regulations on how good the bonuses are that you
get with a retail purchase.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, but then you just change it. Some of them
are renting car parks, yeah, outside the property. The three
hundred bucks for the night and you get to use
the property. So you're in the retail space now. So
there's not really much they can do.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I mean, there's always loopholes, isn't there And that's a
very clever loophole bend. But would that see And I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I haven't followed what's going on in Europe for a while,
but I know that they've really clamped down on abnbs.
But there's the risk there that they try and clamp
down even more. If people are trying to skirt the rules,
then they really really drive home and they might even
say in some parts of Europe, no more airbnbs at all.
If you're on Airbnb, it's illegal.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, but there's what they're doing, So they're saying you
can't have in the MBMB anymore. And this is how
people are getting around it.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So they're not even on the platform.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
No, no, no, no, there's other platforms that are you.

Speaker 8 (11:08):
Know, T shirts.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah, yeah, So you go on your book yourself, you
order yourself a T shirt and it just happens to
come up with a you know, a little apartment in
the middle of Paris. I hear what you're saying. Yeah,
that's interesting. I mean I don't know how yeah, what a.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
What a regulation body can do about that being But
just when it comes to the New Zealand operation, and
we'll watch your thoughts on it, do you think councils
have got it right with their regulations?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Do they need to back off?

Speaker 9 (11:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (11:36):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (11:36):
Like my sister's got one in grass Shoots, my bosses
got one in ti now. Well, my boss is making
one hundred grand a year off is one in ti
now and PAYDA one hundred and forty thousand to the house.
So you know he's making a damn good yield off
double what you get off parental put off with any
of the stress.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, yeah, right, it's an interesting one, isn't it. So
you've got because the arguments because somewhere that is a
tourist destination, right, so it makes a lot of That's
where it gets difficult with places like Methvin and Towna
where some people are trying to live there as a
community and some people, but the majority of people going

(12:16):
through a tourist right. Your thoughts on that, Ben, He's gone, Oh,
he's gone. Well, And what's the deal with Airbnb and GST?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Great question. I don't know because I've never run an Airbnb.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Because if you if people are booking motels, they're paying,
they're paying GST. If Woke Wayne gets his way in
Auckland's there'll be bed tax. You know, it's there's a
lot being lumped on the you know, I guess traditional
forms of accommodation that Airbnb are getting a round which
doesn't seem hyper fear. But once again I come back

(12:51):
to you buy a house and you want to put
it on Airbnb, Get out of it, MB get out
of it. Yeah, City Council.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
What do you say, oh one hundred and eighty teen
eighty if you're running an airbnb, how hard is it
in terms of the regulations where you are? Is it confusing?
And do the council need to back off. What do
you say, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number of ninety two? Ninety two is the text number.
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Speaker 2 (13:58):
Twenty five past one. So we're talking about the airbnb
market in New Zealand. This is on the back of
a pretty major decision coming from the Ministry of Business,
Innovation and Employment. They've stepped in over a fight and
Rice juts over an airbnb with the owners and the Council.
But the mb has back to the council decision that
the short term accommodation must comply with stricter commercial Building
Code standards such as disability, access and fire safety regulations

(14:22):
that could have ramifications for airbnbs up and down the country.
If the Ministry has stepped in in this and said
it's effectively a commercial operation. Now you need to have
fire exits, you need to have ramps, you need to
have How do you.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Feel about that, Tyler, Because you own a house and
christ search that you rent out if you wanted an
airbnb it we can't just the council MB get the
hell out of it. Whether you're renting it to someone
or you're renting it to multiple people, there's really none
of their business.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, it would mean I wouldn't do it because I
wouldn't faff around with fire regulations. I'd have to get consents,
I'd have to build ramps. I mean, who can be
bothered with that?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty Sharon, welcome to show.

Speaker 12 (14:58):
Oh I'll get afternoon. This idea has been mooted around
for years. It's backed by the motel and hotel associations.
As I understand, I actually have a what you call
I have a bed and breakfast. I don't list on
any being any longer, but you know I used to.
So this is to make it all a level playing

(15:20):
field because they have to comply with regulations, whereas airbnbs
as a general umbrella term don't or didn't. So that's
why they're going for this. They're not happy about this,
and I can see their point of view. I'm in
Auckland and Orkland Council and now the MBNB or short
term rentals in residential zones for up to ten guests

(15:43):
as a permitted activity, but if you went out more
than twenty eight nights a year, it triggers a business
rate for rates, et cetera. So you know, there's those
things that you have to comply with. But even when
you list on a platform like Airbnb, et cetera. You
still have to comply with the local council rules for

(16:03):
the place to be safe for people to be in.
So you know, you can't put up any old wa
thing and expect people to pay rent for because it's
actually not I mean it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean you to just put a house out to
permanent rentals or old school rentals, the house has to
be a pretty like flash and neck, I mean taking entirely.
For example, you were happy living in your house for ages,
but when you decided to turn into rental yet to
make it considerably better than.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
You thousands thousands to get it up to the so
called code that you know, it was a new house
as well.

Speaker 12 (16:33):
That's right, and it's the same sort of thing. I mean,
there's an age old argument that has been around, and
it's it seems to be more increasingly trying to have
it brought in for people to provide a resource consent,
contents and pay a lot of money to councilors to
operate as as an airbnb. You know, it's just something

(16:53):
that seems to be happening. But your things with the airbnb,
and a lot of people to forget that airbnbs aren't
just in the cities like mine's out in the middle
of the countryside, So I can I have an agricultural
contractice staying here. People who are setting up the soil
farm down the road they come here. Tourists are on
their way up to their islands come here. They don't

(17:15):
want to stay in the city, so they lumpled all
in together, which I don't think is right.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Yeah, it's massively different, isn't it. So yes, but that's
not good for the you know, for the customer base.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I use airbnbs, and I use a lot of other
things other than Airbnb's hotels included. But if I want
to go and stay somewhere up in the far North
and I want to go jump in an Airbnb, I
don't really need all that other fact that a commercial
operation has to have by a legislation. And then what
that will mean for me and everybody else is I've
got to pay more for it, right, I don't want that?

Speaker 12 (17:46):
Yeah, no, exactly, that's right. And we'll put the nightly
rate up because you know, you have to comply with
all these things, and across the.

Speaker 9 (17:53):
Owner a lot of money.

Speaker 12 (17:54):
So there's quite a bit of a discussion about it,
but I think it will get brought in. I mean,
I can see people's point of view. I remember reading
a study ones that they did to say with the
Airbnb's actually did contribute to the homelessness and people not
being able to buy homes, et cetera, And they found
that it actually didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, well, what about that you've wanted, like a rustic
rural experience. Yeah, I stayed in airbnb quite a few
years ago. Actually it wasn't too far from much a matter,
and it didn't have any power. It was really cool.
It was by a river, yep, and I felt like
a man because I had to get up all through
the night to feed the fire to keep everyone warm.

(18:33):
That's the good stuff. So what if you want that
kind of experience? What does everything have to be so
incredibly I don't know, all the edges shaved off and
everything's so safe and careful, Like, surely you can go
through and go this is what I want, So I'll
go and stay there, you'd think. So. VJ says that

(18:54):
in a bunch of other people as well, that GST
has taken off. So Airbnb. Airbnb automatically collects the GST
on the owner's behalf and sends it to the government.
See so Airbnb is contributing fifteen percent.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, yeah, keep those thanks coming through on nine two
nine two. But taking your calls I weight one hundred
eighty ten eighty. What do you say in regards to
this MB decision? If you're an Airbnb owner, do you
worry that this is going to be brought up and
down the country. There will be thousands potentially of Airbnb
owners who could technically be in breach of the Building
Act if they haven't formally processed this change of use

(19:30):
to a commercial building code. So if that's you, are
you are you worried about it? Tell us, oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
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Speaker 3 (20:59):
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Speaker 2 (21:00):
So we're talking about a major Ministry Business, Innovation and
Employment determination that back Chrissiet City Council's decision that a
stand did Airbnb used for short term accommodation, of course,
must comply with stricter commercial building Code standards, so that's
things like disability, access, fire safety regulation, et cetera, et cetera.
So the ruling has sparked concerned that thousands of apartments

(21:22):
and residential units operating as airbnbs may technically be in
breach of the Building Act. If you're an airbnb owner,
are you worried about that?

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Eight one hundred and eighteen eighty Hi, gents love the show.
From the other point of view, we run a small
function venue in Canterbury. We spend thousands making it comply
with the building Code and people do not even sleep there.
Most functions only run for a few hours. If you
have airbnbs, don't need to comply. Why should we, cheers Sam, Interesting, Yeah, well,
yeah exactly why should you. Queenstown District, you have to

(21:50):
register and you have to pay more in rates and
can only rent for ninety days a year unless you
get a resource consent for one hundred and eighty days,
which means consent from neighbors, and your rates increase. Again.
It's very hard to get a consent for three hundred
and sixty five days a year in a residential year
unless it runs as a BMB and you reside in
the property. That's interesting. We'll have just been in Queenstown
and you know around Lake Hays and various places like that,

(22:14):
Arrowtown and the wider area. It's like a ghost down
there's these houses that people come to, you know, for
one week a year Milbrook and the.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Likes, yeah, exactly, Chris, you're an ex hostel owner, is
that right correct?

Speaker 14 (22:27):
Yeah, So we found that the airbnb has made a
big difference to our business where we were in top right,
and I've just got a list of things that we
had to deal with that an airbnb doesn't. So we
had to have a building warrane of fitness, which is
commercial warrant for only a commercial building and doing income

(22:51):
out of it. That involves monthly fire inspections, so that
you have to employ a company to come and do
that and then at the end of the year you
have an audit by them again to make sure everything
was done. So whether it's an extractor and your and
through to fire alarms to and you have to have

(23:12):
fire alarms, smoke systems, all that sort of stuff and
commercial operations for that. They come in and check you
for that, and then on top of the company doing that,
the council then charges you for an inspection of the inspection.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
Just to add to it.

Speaker 14 (23:30):
If you sell food, you have to have a commercial
food license like if you were a restaurant, so you
have to pay a thousand or so dollars or that
a year for compliance. Again that gets inspected were you
pay more fees on it.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
If you sell.

Speaker 14 (23:45):
Liquor, you then have to have a liquor license, you
have to have a duty manager. All these things can
be done in an earbnb for no cost.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You can You can't sell alcohol on any Airbnb though, can you?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
No, But you can give it away, can't you.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
It's just there Yeah, yeah, Afrige. So do you think
there's too much regulation for hostels like you dealing with
and the Beautiful Tope or two little fairbs.

Speaker 14 (24:12):
I think it needs to be an even playing field
because we were in the industry for twenty years and
between camper vans and airbmbs opening when we started the
operation in twenty two thousand and five, there were two
and a half million tourists in New Zealand. By the

(24:32):
time we got out of it in twenty twenty at
COVID there were foot and a half. We were doing
less turnover right, less people through the door and two
properties than we had through one property.

Speaker 15 (24:44):
Though.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
For me, though, Chris, and tell me where I'm wrong here,
because you're an expert in this area and I'm not.
But if a building's not going to fall down and
it's fire safe, then that seems to me the only
regulation I really care about. Apart from that, then people
you'll get the reputation that you get as a hostile,
and people will know what kind of hostile they're booking.

(25:06):
If you see what I'm saying, Like, we don't want
buildings collapse on people when we want.

Speaker 14 (25:10):
I totally agree with that, But I have to pay
toilet tax. I've got to pay GST. The council doesn't
care whether I have one person walks through a property
or a thousand people walk through the property. So if
you say, okay, you're an AMBMB, but you only pay tax,
say after you've done thirty days rentals, where's my month

(25:33):
off for income and paying the rates and the extra
costs on those.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
So all I'm just saying, even playing.

Speaker 14 (25:40):
To you GST, they only pay that if they're making
over fifty sixty K year.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I thought it was thirty K. Is it sixty K?

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I'm pretty sure it's at least fifty You have to
be registered.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
So Chris, sorry to jump in there, but I'm a
bit confused for the likes of these remote stays. And
I will name one particular company. It's a great company they
call Canopy Escapes. Right, so that is not your BMB,
but the short term accommodation. But a lot of what
they provide is not wheelchair accessible, so they don't provide
that disability access as a commercial operation would probably have

(26:14):
to do. I think they've got they've probably got a
fire plan in place, but so are they exempt as well?
Do they need to be brought into this situation?

Speaker 14 (26:21):
No, I do agree with you on that. I mean,
we look at it because we're central CBD type properties
and i'd say urban and so Tiana you had it
as an example, so hostels there or properties, they.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Are commercial properties.

Speaker 14 (26:41):
There was no accommodation in town for the commercial operators
to be able to have staff and yeah, so they
actually had to start building accommodation. And the same in
Queenstown they had the same issue that everything's been rented
out short term, but there's nowhere for the people that
are actually having to work in the accommodation or not

(27:03):
an accommodation in the tourist set.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
I mean, it's a huge rob in the Queenstown region,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Well they actually hot bed them down there.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (27:11):
Yeah, so places like you're talking about. I absolutely agree.
I mean, if you're a one off thing out and
the things, but I guess if you're a tourist operator
as such, you still have to be complied to a
certain extent.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
And it's so complicated, isn't it, Because if you rent
out a house, then you've got people they're just in
there for a longer period of time, but it's still
very similar. And so do you make it that all
rental properties have to be akin to a motel in
terms of you know, this is where these disruption businesses

(27:46):
like Airbnb gets so complicated. Yeah, because if I own
a home, in my mind, I'm just trying to you know,
I'm not living it. I want to make money from it, right,
So having five people living in it, you know, every
now and then for an hour at Airbnb, or having
five people live in it all the time on a
long term rental. It's hard for me to get my
head around what's the difference. That's the complexities, right.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
The more that I'm listening to this, the more that
I agree with that that it's your property and everyone's
got different circumstances of whatever happens in life. So that
say you go away for six months for a job,
and you're not going to rent it out for six months,
because that's really tricky to do that. You're going to
do it for at least a year. Then you rent
it out as an airbnb. But before you do that,
you need to get a ramp in there. You need
to get a fireplan, you need to do all of

(28:29):
those things that Chris said. I mean, how is that
going to work for somebody that needs to leave their
house for six months? But starts to get complicated. What
I'm saying is it's your property. Is the ministry really
are the people here to say no, you can't do that. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
What do you say? It's complicated, it's complicated, complicated, let's
keep it going. It is eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
The big stories, the big issues to the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons
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Speaker 3 (28:59):
That'd be very good afternoon to you. It is a
quarter to two.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
We're talking about a big decision from NB, the Ministry
of Business, Innovation and Technology. They've stepped into a scrap
with the Christiet City Council and an Airbnb owner. But
mb has sided with the council saying that that particular
Airbnb should be up to commercial building codes. That is
disability access, fire exit. That's going to have big ramifications

(29:22):
maybe for other Airbnb owners.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
What do you say all Airbnb's paid PST it is
automatically clicked and are emitted by their marketplace platform for
those who are not GST registered. Okay, so I guess
I'm not sure if you could claim that back if
you're not over the GST threshold or not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I mean that's when it gets a bit complicated, confused.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Ah, shame, poor hotel and hostel owners. Yeah, we should
have banned streaming platforms to protect video store owners. How
do the public have more choice? This ruling will ultimately
leave kiwis with less of a choice of where they
can stay, and currently motels have become halfway accommodation not
really ideal. The country is becoming so authoritarian. We just
all want more choices and get ahead in life, compete. Okay,

(30:06):
thank you for that.

Speaker 9 (30:06):
Pete.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So as the is the solution less regulation for hostels
and motels and hotels and other forms of accommodation, as
opposed to adding regulation to airbnbs.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
I think a lot of people may agree with that.
But tell us, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
The Texas's councils of dorks. Look at our woke Wayne
congestion charges bed taxes or to play for his beloved tunnel. Oh,
the Texas are picking up on wape Wayne. Now, how
are you?

Speaker 16 (30:34):
Yeah, good afternoon, guys. I'm great, Thank you, I was listening.
I've had two airbnbs. I've stayed in Airbnb since it
first came on, and if you might remember when Uber
came on or Airbnb first came and of course there
were absolutely no regulation.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
It was great.

Speaker 16 (30:51):
It's a self policing platform. So if you're an Airbnb owner,
your incentivized to provide what you're advertising because otherwise you
get bad reviews from the people that stay in it,
and then over time, incumbents and the taxi industry, incumbents
in the motel industry are unhappy that a new competitor,
a new entrance. I think you just had a text
about Netflix versus Blockbuster. They are unhappy and they want

(31:15):
the new players, as you said, to be regulated. So
I was thinking about all the different things I could say,
and I think it comes back to the big question
always is are you sort of a free mark, an
individual choice person, or are you an authoritarian sort of
socialist style authoritarian view? And Milton Friedman summed it up
beautifully back in the eighties on this exact thing. He's

(31:39):
pointed out that any time you create licensing for anything,
and this is a form of licensing, you always protect
the incumbents. You create a barrier for entry, and it's
always done under the guise of this is what consumers want. Now,
you've both stayed in the airbnbs. How many times have
either of you stayed in the airbnb and said, Hey,
I need to call mb right now and getting it

(31:59):
to regulate this airbnb provider.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
Yeah, because and that was his.

Speaker 16 (32:04):
Point, if it was consumer for consumers, you'd see consumers down.
It's city council protesting, say regulate the Airbnb is regulated uber,
but they known't. So who wants it done? The encumbents.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, it's an interesting point you make, Nick, because I
was reading this article I think was an economist, but
I could be wrong. And they were talking about how
hotels in some parts of America have hit back and
are actually changed their offering and in our beating Airbnb
because they've rebuilt some of their you know, their rooms
into apartments with kitchens and then people will go there

(32:39):
because there's there's some annoyances around the Airbnb and so
because instead of the regulation, what they've done is they've
improved their offering, which is the marketplace, right, Nick, one hundred.

Speaker 16 (32:52):
Percent, welcome to the right wing. That's you're you've seen
the light come out from the dark side. Yeah, that's
that's called competition. And the only way to improve things
for customers consumers is never regulation. It's always more competition.
You have to innovate, you have to adapt. I've also
stayed and lots and lots of motels for my work

(33:12):
traveling around the country, and I stopped doing that switch
to airbnbs because of the stop that you stay in
on fifty five. These are the same motels that we're
there in the seventies and eighties, and they are very
they are and disrepair, they're terrible. So I'd rather stay
in someone's room. And you guys haven't brought that up
to I don't know whether you want to talk about that.
Lots of times airbnbs are simply a room in somebody's
house and I've decided they need a bit of extra income.

(33:35):
So does the council now say you need to pay
commercial rates for that? If you have more than next
amount of nights per year, If somebody's staying in a room,
do you need to provide a ramp to that room
and all that sort of stuff. I think that my
personal view has always let people voluntarily decide what they
want to do. If you go on an Airbnb, you
can message the owner, like I said, selling one. We've

(33:57):
had another one, we saw it, we're getting out of it.
If someone messes me and says hey, which I have
had happen, Hey, i've got a wheelchairs the wheelchair access,
I'll say yes or no, and then it's up there
up to them whether or not they want to stay
with me. That's the free market. There's plenty of other
places that do have wealthchair access, So.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
There are would you agree there are limits to it?
For example, a hostel that isn't providing fire escapes or
is you know, collapses on people that the first time.
You know, you can't have the reviews until it happens,
if you see what I'm saying, So it can't I mean,
would you agree that it can't be zero regulation?

Speaker 16 (34:37):
Well, I think that would be already covered by the
Building Act. You know, when you like we've renovated to
properties and turn them into the airbnbs, and when we
do them, the builders a licensed building practitioner, they insist,
you've got to have fire alarms and everything in the
right place. You've got to have the right level insulation,
you've got to have it hip up. We put all
that in right, you've put that in any way for

(34:58):
your own house for safety. But yeah, that's all covered
by the Building Act. You don't need n be wading
into short term accommodation to say that. That's my view.
I'll give you a story. When we first did the
first one, it was in an apartment in a nice
place in New Zealand and the managers of the apartment
complex came and said we couldn't do it, and I said,

(35:18):
why can't we me me and they said it's in
the body corporate. So I've got a copy, consulted a lawyer.

Speaker 17 (35:22):
It wasn't in there.

Speaker 16 (35:23):
We did it and I said, what is your fear
out it? And they said, wow, you know there's all
these parties and you know people wrecked the place. They said, well,
we've had the MBAB for years, we've stayed in them.
We've never had that happen. That idea that you're talking
about about a building collapse. I don't know of anything
happening like that. I'm not saying it wouldn't happen. So
I look at it the other way around. If you

(35:44):
read the reviews on a hostel, you can see if
it's some dilapidated disrepair from the reviews or if it's
really well kept up.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
You think, if you cool Nick interesting, I mean it
makes me wonder what Nick is saying there. So mb
as a ministry have made this particular decision, it's likely
to have ramifications whether the minister involved. And I think
it's simon what's building and Construction Minister may have to
step in here and reassess, because as that a good
thing for the country, that if all these airbnbs have
to live up to these regulations and decide they don't

(36:13):
want to do it anymore, it's a good.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Good thing for the motail, hotel and hostel owners. True, yeah, yeah,
they'll be happy. But as as Nick was pointing out,
you know that's you know, is that is that who
we need to be looking after. Yeah, what do you say? Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
It is eight to two.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams
Afternoons News Talks mb.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
News talksb It is five to two. Plenty of texts
coming through. This one says Unfortunately, guys, everything is more
complicated than it should be these days. Who is actually
making the money when it comes to these extra regulations?
Who is actually benefiting I'm in the hospitality business.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
It is too much, Dave says, Hey, guys already pay
for body corp orates, insurance, fire inspection management fees. The
MBBN fees and GST plus plus plus. Most MB's are
sitting empty as there are too many. It's my bloody house.
I should be able to do what I like. AIRB
and be in Europe is affordable because there are few regulations.
You pick the property and pay the price. Kindest regards Dave.

(37:16):
But here's an interesting text. I hope all you know
regulation Wink has burned to death in a hostel with
no fire escapes. What a bunch of Nazis. WHOA Oh,
thanks for your nuanced opinion. Yeah, I mean I personally
hope text he that you live a long and happy
life and never burned to death. Yep, but each to
their own. We're a broad church of opinions here on

(37:36):
mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons and on Newstalks. He'd
be nicely said, No, I love the compassion of wanting
more regulations for safety, but at the same time the
wish for a horror show for people that don't agree
with you. Everyone to burn who disagrees. It's a juxtaposition.
It's a balance between empathy and hatred. Quite a whiplash
there m great discussion.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Thank you very much to everyone who called through on
that it is a big decision and we will wait
to see whether it impacts the thousands of other airbnbs
up and down the country. But coming up after two
a clock, what was the craziest, weirdest thing you've found
out about your lineage? If you did one of these
DNA tests or you heard a story from a family member.
This is on the back of a Belgium car salesman.

(38:19):
He's unexpectedly found out he's actually a prince.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Ah, it's nice for some of it. Yeah, yeah, we'll
tell you more about that very shortly.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
But taking your calls, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
tell us about the strangest thing you've found out about
your family history when you've delved into it.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Nineteen ninet two. I've always assumed I have Emperor's blood
in me. Oh way, no way, No, you're a pauper mate. Right,
news is coming up.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
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Speaker 3 (39:00):
Good ad to you. Welcome back to the show seven
past two. Hey, before we continue on with the show,
I'm really interested in this ancestry question that we're going
to run in a seat on our way one hundred
and eighty ten eighty. But I just want to talk
about the Emerson's Dunedin Marathon, Yes, which is on Sunday,
the thirteenth of September. I'm heading down there to run
the half and I've got a team and you can

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(39:46):
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to run. I haven't decided what time I'm going to
try and run the half marathon. You want a sub too,
don't you? Yeah, but I you don't actually have to

(40:09):
beat Heath to win the price pack or get the
thirty percent off, the twenty five percent off the the
entry fee. Well that is, but you should try and
beat me if you can, because I'm injured at the moment.
Here we go, what's wrong. I've just got a bit
of a I've got a bit of a I guess
you might call it a It feels like a shin splint, right,
I don't know what a shin splint is, but it

(40:30):
feels like a shin splint.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
And this is with your Haglin's deformity that you've had
for a week.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
While the Haglin's deformity has got a lot better as again,
so that's improved. In fact, Tracy was asking me about
the other day and I hadn't thought about it. You know,
when you've got a an ailment and it disappears, you
almost forget that. You complain about it for so long,
and then it disappears you just forget you've had it. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2 (41:07):
That's going to be a great event and you get
the Coude offs if you can actually beat Matt Heath.
So you go for the sub too. It's easily done,
easily done.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Well, sub two no beating you, Oh yeah, beating me easy?
I think sub two half would be running five to
forty case.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, that's a pretty good, good effort.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
It's tough with shin splints, certainly as whatever as ailing
me at the moment.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Right, So get amongst go to the website and you've
got the code there, Just that code one more time.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
Matt Heath beat Heath, all caps easy as m beat Heath.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yep, it's gonna be good. Right, let's get into this one.
So Belgium car salesman has unexpectedly discovered he is actually
a Prince after a DNA test confirmed he is the
biological son of the late King Albert the Second of Belgium.
So the man who had claimed he was the king's
son has now been legally recognized as part of the
Belgium royal family, and we'll use the title prince. So
the discovery brings a remarkable twist to a decades long

(42:02):
family saga, after King Albert had previously.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Denied being his father.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
So it turns out he was the result of a
relationship between the king and Belgium singer Wendy van Wanton,
although details have only just emerged after he undertook that
DNA test. So while he formally becomes a prince, he
will not receive a royal allowance. But going from a
Belgium car salesman to become one of the princes of Belgium,

(42:28):
it's quite a turnaround when undertaking a DNA test.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
This text here from a nasty person called Mary half
a marathon. What a hero you think you are? At
least carey did a full and why do it with
an injury? Have you not heard of acc.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
What a what a absolute miserable, miserable person.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I actually did run a full marathon last year as well,
you know, and good on Carry for running here. It's
great book. Actually it is Harry's book on running marathon
short fat chick to marathon runner. I think it's a title. Yeah,
Neve a ready mane who wrote a great book as well. Yep,
leading from the back, Yes, yeah on marathons. Yeah, but
what a hero. At least Carry did full and why
do it with an injury? Acc The people are miserable.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Anyone out there there's running twenty one k. Congratulations to you.
That's a hell of a long way you have done
the full forty forty two.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
I'm running. I'm running the half because I'm running it
with my son, who's never run a marathon before, so
he wouldn't run a half with me.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
My body broke down at fifteen when we did that
relay race and toe more. I mean, I've got twenty
one I could have crawled across the line. But jeez,
there's some miserable people out there. Get some joy in
your life. Go for a run.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
And if you've got an injury and you battle through
a run, don't think about acc No, go.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
For it exactly yeah nicely said right, oh one hundred
eighty ten eighty. So what was the craziest thing that
you found out about your history if you dug a
little bit deeper, whether you did one of these ancestry
dot Com or other DNA testing websites, what was it
that you discovered about your lineage that you had no
idea on.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
You've got a bit of a story. Well, yeah, so
we always thought that our family was French, and we
always sort of celebrated it, and then there was a
bit of an investigation into our history and it turned
out that our family was entirely Irish but up in
New Zealand and claimed to be French because it was
harder to get ahead as an Irish person back then,
and was better to be a fancy pants French person
to run a furniture business.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I love that about your family. Yeah, I mean that's
a smart strategy.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I mean, knowing you now, I could tell you've got
a bit of Irish in yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah. But you know, for your life you have these
stories in your family go, yeah, I've got a bit
of Yeah, I'm a bit French, you know, I've got
my olive skin. Yes, I'm a bit a bit of
a frenchy LaRue. Turns out know that you were just
had smart ancestors, because I mean it's a great thing
back in the day arriving in New Zealand, get off
the boat and reinvent yourself, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
What do you say though, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty,
If you've delved into your family history, what was the strangest,
weirdest unexpected thing that you discovered?

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Tell us about at nine to nine two.

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Speaker 3 (45:07):
It is a pas two.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
What was the most interesting thing you have found out
about your family history? If you undertook a DNA test
or you did some digging yourself. This is on the
back of a Belgium car salesman. He has unexpectedly discovered
he is actually a legitimate prince of Belgium.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
How about this text here? Hey, so it turns out
my sister is my mum. She's been my sister for
thirty years now, mum, not sure what it changes. She
was a very motherly sister. Now I guess she's a
sisterly mum. Wow. She was always a lot of fun too.
That's that used to happen a lot, right there. That's
for what are is reason? It was more convenient that

(45:43):
someone remains. Yeah, so if someone has a child young, Yes,
then it was often the case, wasn't it. Yeah, well
it was. That's only thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
So it was kind of like the family secret, but
you didn't let it get out because it was seen
as taboo. You're quite right, and then it is just stayed.
Is only a few people in the family know the.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Truth and the true So you've just got a sister
that's eighteen years older than you or whatever. Yeah, I
think I might be wrong here.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But Christopher Walken, the Great Actor, I believe he was
told something similar along those lines.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I look that up.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
But oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. What was
the most interesting thing you found out about your family history?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
A Neville hey Man.

Speaker 18 (46:23):
Hey, A couple of years ago we did a trip
over England, Lancashire to the Parker I'm Neville Parker to
the Parker Estate, which is the original Parker Homestead. They've
owned it since fifteen twenty wow, and Robert Parker still
lives there and Robert Amanda and I went knocked on
the door and he gave me a quick history lesson
about the three brothers that owned the whole lot right

(46:45):
from the word go. And then when the Jacobite War happened,
two of the brothers were financing the Jacobites. So when
they lost, the English Prince sent the sheriff's up to
get everybody that was doing the financing up and all
that and all that sort of thing. So they grabbed
the two of them, grabbed their families and shifted off
to Philadelphia. So from Philly they'd spread out. Of course,

(47:07):
apparently Philadelphia's got more Parkers than any other place in
the world. But one string went to Australia and then
to New Zealand. And that's my line. But a couple
a year ago, I was somebody was doing a family
tree and they came across Leroy Parker, who was Butch
Cassidy out of but and a Sanlu's kid.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
How cool.

Speaker 18 (47:28):
And Bonnie Parker, who was of course Bonnie and Clyde. Yeah,
so that's both on our family tree as well.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (47:37):
So yeah, yeah, that is incredible, Yeah, a bit of interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Gay Yeah yeah, I mean it's a pretty that was
a pretty interesting family before you even found out that
you had.

Speaker 18 (47:47):
Oh yeah yeah, Well getting back to fifteen twenty and
the family has owned the land and the house and
everything since then and they're still were. Oh I had
to come home and have a chat with my lawyers
to make sure.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
I don't know, says that I probably don't.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
So I guess Bonnie and Clyde they didn't. I guess
I know they'd an add to the genealogy, did they
because they died.

Speaker 18 (48:14):
They died before they were just in the interesting Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
What's interesting is that, you know, Bonnie Parker had such
a fancy lineage considering you know what she was up to.

Speaker 18 (48:28):
Yeah, yeah, I guess yeah. Yeah, Well there was the
three brothers there originally back in England. Yeah, and like
I say, yeah, they broke up with the Jack but
after the Jackbiat War, well yeah, which was which was
brave heart.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah yeah, of course I used to be called Denny
Parker back in the day. So wonderful, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Hey, now, just a creation I'm sorry, I see, Christopher Walken,
it was actually Jack Nicholson. So Jack Nicholson grew up
leaving his biological mother. June was his older sister. He
was raised by his grandparents and his biological mother. June
was only seventeen when he was born in nineteen thirty seven.
So exactly what you said, Matt. The family had the
truth to avoid the social stigma of an unwired teenage
pregnancy during that era.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
All right, there you go, old jef N. Courson. Yeah,
so that stigma doesn't exist anymore. So it wouldn't happen
as much, would it.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
You wouldn't think so he found out about it at
the age of thirty seven when Time magazine did a
deep dive.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Into his family. Would have been a bit of a shock. Yeah,
well this text to his sim But buh buh bah,
there's a similssistance yet. Hey, guys, After my mom died,
I did a DNA test to see if we could
find her biological father through ancestry dot Com. When the
results came through, it revealed my father is not my
biological father, which was quite a shock. Yeah, I bet
it was.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
Keep those teats coming through on nine two nine two.
What was the most interesting, unexpected shocking thing you found
out about your family history when you did a DNA
test or dug through it yourself?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Tell us about it? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is that number? This business says it turns out
unrelated to Peeping tom. It really explains a lot. Was
there an original peeping top so that was I can
tell you the story of Peeping Top up next, please yep,
all right? Twenty past two.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
everything in between. Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons used talks EDB.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
MATD.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty on news talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Twenty two past two.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
What was the most unexpected or interesting thing you found
out about your family history? This is on the back
of a story about a Belgium car salesman that's found
out he is actually a legitimate prince of Belgium.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Plenty of text coming through on ninet two nine too.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
This one says, Kay, guys, I found out I'm a
distant descendant of Ulysses Grant, eighteenth President of the Usa through.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Our family tree. No, that's pretty good. That's some great
lineas right there. So peeping Tom comes from the Lady
Godiver story. So you know, Lady Godiver was going to
ride naked through town on the back of a horse
because she wanted to stop her her her husband, the
Earl of Mercier, from taxing the villages. Yes, so she

(51:06):
wanted to punish him. She said, oh, right through the town.
And then so he said, no, one lock. She goes
bloody riding through town in the nude of a horse,
don't you lock? And the whole town didn't look except
for a tailor named Tom, who supposedly made a hole
in his shutters so he could sickly watch her pass.
And so that and that became the term peeping Tom.

(51:27):
So peeping Tom was the only one that looked at
Lady Goodriver in the nude when she when she went
through town because her Leo Frick, her nobleman husband, was
trying to tax him too much.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I love her story. Is that an unfair slur? Then
you know it's become a mess of slur the old
peeping Tom. Nobody wants to be a peeping tom. Was
there anything wrong with that Taylor. You know, look she
was she was riding through town but naked herself.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
It was all consensual in a way. She was doing
what Lady Goodiva wanted someone to do because it was
her husband that was trying to tax everyone so much.
Her punishment for him was that the whole village would
see her nud Yes, interesting punishment. So really Peeping Tom
was actually doing what she wanted, did the right you
could argue, but for all of history, that decision that

(52:11):
he made in the year twelve hundred to look at
the shutters and a newd woman or horses as condemned
Tom's forever. So he has one hundred and eighty ten
eighties the number to call it. Alanda.

Speaker 19 (52:26):
Hello, Yes, my father in law. He said he was Australian,
born in Australia, went to war and then came to
live in New Zealand. He said he had a brother,
but there was no never any contact with any family
or anything. We could never find any He couldn't get

(52:46):
the pension when he became a pension age because Australia
had no records. Because you know, so anyway, one day
he actually came, he wrung up my husband and he said, Oh,
he says, I've got some news. So my husband went
over and he said that this guy had found his family,

(53:09):
but what he'd actually done has changed his name.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
He was never born and it.

Speaker 19 (53:14):
Was not Australian. He was born in Auckland. It was
a very rare surname, so if it was a common one,
I would never have been able to do what I did.
But I spent hours and hours and hours on ancestry
dot com. I went through electoral records. I found him
and his parents at an address. Then further along there

(53:38):
was there was a brother as well, so him and
his parents and the brother were coming up on the
electoral role. The next electoral role, he was actually at
a different address with a woman of the same surname.
So I found out trade me had message boards at
this stage, so I went to trade me message board

(54:00):
and they come up with a marriage. So then I
actually was able to follow it through. At the library,
I found the birth, death and marriages. I found two
births to him and his wife. I found I could

(54:22):
follow one through until she got until she got married.
Then I couldn't follow the other one. So I don't
know what happened to the other one. So then, yeah,
so it ended up he actually walked out and changed
his name. The only name that he kept was his
first name. He changed his surname and he probably did

(54:46):
that when he was about late twenties, early thirties, and
then he just walked in and everything was different.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
So did he do that too, you know, he effectively
left the family and he never wanted to be found.

Speaker 19 (55:01):
Well, yes, so his parents actually died knowing probably never
knowing that if he was bat alive or where he was.
I did the woman who was the first berth, the
one I was able to follow through. We managed to
contact her and her mother did remarry and have twins

(55:22):
and she was still alive at that time. But yeah,
he changed his surname. So and the person that found that,
he said found it. He must have told them the surname,
because there was no way that you would put two
together that are totally different.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Linda, It's a fascinating story.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I mean, that is someone really disappearing, and that's a
hell of a thing to find out down the track.
Thank you very much for your call. Plenty of texts
coming through. On nine two nine two.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Craig Dowd says, lady Godiva going to ride down my street.
I'm pulling out my cellphone. Spoken like a true peeping
tom then be a peeping peeping Craig situation. Hi, boys,
my first dig into my family tree brought up. I'm
a third cousin to both David Bain and David Gray,
and my name is also David. I met a David
Bain in christ Church, right, not so long ago, not

(56:13):
the no, not the yeah, yeah, a separate David, not
the much smaller ears and not wearing a David Baine
jersey sign. He said his life changed so because he
was old enough that one day being called David Bain
was nothing. Yeah, he was just walking around, I'm David Bay.
And then the next day it just totally changed his life,

(56:34):
you know. I mean that must have happen to people
all the time. Rite your name, Yeah, you know, you're
walking around Tyler Adams and then suddenly there's Tyler Adams
does something.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Hollywood superstar or an athlete or I mean, how many
Michael Jordan's are rocking around? You know, before he came
to fame in the nineteen nineties, oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighties and number to call. What was the craziest,
most surprising thing you found out about your family lineage
history when you did a DNA test? Tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
It is twenty nine past two.

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Speaker 3 (58:24):
Thank you very much, ray Lean.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
So we've asked the question, what is the craziest, most
surprising thing you've found out about your own family? On
the back of the Belgium car salesman, he's found out
through dnaighty so that he's actually a prince of a Belgium.
So tell us what is your story? I one hundred
and eighty to eighty.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Hi, guys. When I was sixteen, I learned my uncles
my brother. When I was sixty, I learned my father
was not my father but my stepfather. Plus my great
uncle was the first person to be convicted of murder
using fingerprints. Well, okay, that is a lot. That is
a lot going on there, Bryce, So you've got a
bit of you got a bit of well, les, let

(59:00):
you explain. I don't want to I don't want to
ruin the surprise.

Speaker 8 (59:03):
That's a long story. Actually. So my grandmother, Grandma Cahuangi,
she was from Ortachy up north and so I used
to grow up there and more recently a few years
ago to connect with cousins, the many cousins that they had.
And so I went into the museum there, and I,
because I'm a Karkeek, which is a very common name,

(59:24):
there was given the special treatment. I got to go
behind into the archives, and so I went through the history,
you know, and I saw that my grandma, her mom
was we were Krcique and then her father was Morgan Kharkiek,
a surveyor in the settler times in the lower part

(59:45):
of the North Island. And reading through the book, I
saw a name Martha Piotti, as she originally came from
Cornwall in England, but of one of the journals they
read it actually had the name Napoleon Bonaparte and that
she had been a part of the family of the Bonapartes.

(01:00:06):
So I hope, potentially, I'm not sure if it's a
good thing. I am potentially related to Napoleon Bonaparte.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Wow. Wow, do you feel any any of the Do
you find yourself walking around with your hands slipped into
you know, into your jacket.

Speaker 8 (01:00:23):
The funny thing is I'm the oppos I'm six foot one,
I'm not five foot nothing Napoleon.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
I do you know something though, Bryce, that that Napoleon
short was just propaganda. He wasn't actually that short.

Speaker 8 (01:00:34):
They what the time I think was five to nine,
wasn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Yeah, Yeah, which was a pretty normal for the time.
Was actually pretty pretty pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:00:43):
Just his reserves are very tall though, you know, he
would only recruit, you know, the big strong. His reserve
guard was very, very large. And what's funny is that
I actually got into Napoleonic history because of that Napoleon
at warfare because of that. And what's even more funny
is that I am the zealand first candidate for egram.
So you know who knows, Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Got you've got the emperor in your blood? Maybe the game, Yeah,
so you lust for power in your blood.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
It wasn't the reason for running, guys, I can assure you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
So what do you reckon Napoleon is to you?

Speaker 12 (01:01:17):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Is it a potentially a great great great uncle, oh.

Speaker 20 (01:01:21):
Something like that, more more great than it a great
great great great great uncle, or you know, maybe a cousin,
because he didn't have any children that I can get
a direct lineage too, So it might be one of
his brothers or sisters, or you know, a grandchild of
his grandparents, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
So nothing he got him and Josephine didn't have any
any kids.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Hey maybe maybe I'm the you know, they had a
secret child.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yeah it maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Good on you fascinating history, Bryce. Thank you very much
and all the best in wegram as well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
So I was in Pheatherston recently and I was staying
at this house called Longwood, which is this giant house
just outside of Featherston. It's so very cool. You can
stay in there, you can book stay in there. But
they had a tree called Napoleon's Tree right in the backyard,
Napoleon's Oak something like that, Okay, And I'm just trying

(01:02:18):
to work out why I think it was. It was
it was gifted by Napoleon to someone or look, something happened.
Napoleon took a way on it at some point. I'm
not sure. I mean, I know Napoleon ever came down
this way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
No, but we did have some French you know lineage
here Akoa. Yeah, and there was a you know, there
was a few few French French people.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Who landed here back in the early days.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah, maybe they bought a tree with them from Napoleon.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yeah, if anyone knows what the tree, I was impressed
to meet and Featherstone, what it's relationship to Napoleon was. Oh,
here we go. The house was named Longwood after Longwood House,
Napoleon's place of exile, and Saint Helena had buried taken
cuttings of willows growing there. Oh there, So it's a

(01:03:04):
cutting from a tree that was from the house of
the same name that Napoleon was exiled in. Yeah, how
good I got there? He got there?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Nineteen nine two is the text number. But let's have
a chat with Carol.

Speaker 21 (01:03:16):
Get a Carol, Hello, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
We are very well. Can you hear your story?

Speaker 14 (01:03:23):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (01:03:23):
Yes, my late husband is a direct descendant of King
Edward the third, not that he's to be proud of.
He wroteen very nice king. Yes, and so both family,
your grandchildren and the children are obviously going down the line.
And also he was the first king to have his

(01:03:46):
chime of birth recorded. So I've got all this information.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
So how long ago was that that would be a
very very long time ago. Was that the twelfth or
thirteenth century King Edward was that when he was ruling England.

Speaker 21 (01:04:01):
You're way back. Yes, it's fourteen when he became king.
And then also William the Conqueror. It goes down through
him all of what keeps going down, right, and also
Sir Walter Raleigh on another side.

Speaker 12 (01:04:18):
But it was amazing.

Speaker 21 (01:04:20):
I've got all the proof of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:04:23):
A cousin gave for Paul the you know this big
you know those horrible albums we used to get nowadays
with their black black and white pictures and things, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:04:37):
You know?

Speaker 21 (01:04:37):
And Scott photos and all the things of it all.
And it's so interesting. But yes, I just sort of mistake,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Do you know what line it was?

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Because I'm just having a look at the family tree,
and obviously it goes for some time. So there was
the Mortemer line, the Lancaster line, the York line.

Speaker 21 (01:04:57):
Oh god, plant heage in it, and then it goes down.
Oh I haven't got it on me at the moment,
but it keeps it's line or his his son went
down through line on his son and then he I
had a daughter, and the daughter had then went yeah,
I should have brought the book down. I thought, I'm
like it, come on too quick.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
No, no, good on you, Carol, Thank you for your call.
So King Ed with the Third, that descendant started one
hundred year war. That's right, yes, yes, you know, look
at the hundred one hundred years long time to be
a war, isn't it certainly is yes. So that's thirteen twelve.
So he ruled for fifty years a king heid with
the Third. Yeah, from thirteen twelve to thirteen seventy seven

(01:05:40):
he lived. Yeah, yeah, so hell of mastry right there.
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
What is the craziest or strangest thing you've found out
about your family history?

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Tell us about it if you want to say to
text nine two ninety two. Is that number.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
We'll get to some of those very shortly. It is
twenty to three.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Oh look at this, we've got someone that's related to
Bob Marlin. Oh that's not that's more recent than bloody
KINGID with the Third.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty, it's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons
news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:11):
They'd be there is seventeen to two three. My mother's
maiden name was Marley. The thing of Bob Marley's great
great great grandfather was my great great great grandfather. Wow.
Bob Marley was born in February nineteen forty five, so
was I. Bob's mother was around thirty years younger than
his father. My brother is right into ancestry and tells

(01:06:31):
me that we are also related to Elvis. Elvis and
Bob Marley related. Who would have thought so when I
hang on Elvis and Bob Marley might not be related?
Oh right, okay, I see, Yeah, this person is related
to Elvis and Bob Marley.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
That is a claim to fame being related to Bob Marley.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
It's not too bad, is it? Yeah? Great?

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Nineteen nine two is the text Jared's what's your story?

Speaker 23 (01:06:54):
Yeah? So about eighteen years ago, I had a one
night stand with a girl and I got the text
telling me that she was she was pregnant. So I
started to play the dad role, and you know, he
send her money because they didn't live in Auckland anymore.
So then I requested a DNA test, and she she

(01:07:14):
didn't want to give me a DNA test, so I
stopped sort of contributing to the to the payments.

Speaker 7 (01:07:20):
And when he was when he was seven, I actually.

Speaker 23 (01:07:24):
Got a phone call to come and meet him for
a friend of mine, and it was like looking at
a splitting image of me when I was his age.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
So I started to play the dad.

Speaker 23 (01:07:34):
Role and fly him up from Toweringer and bust him
up from Toweroer and go down to his rugby games
and sending them money and buying them clothes and doing everything.

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
That a dad does.

Speaker 23 (01:07:45):
And then he started to get a little bit taller
and look a little bit different. So the mum actually
realized that he's not actually mine anymore, and he's probably
more than likely going to be the guy that she
was with at the time, which I didn't know about.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
So she started to try and extort money out of him,
and he.

Speaker 23 (01:08:05):
Requested a DNA test, so she did a d A
test and turns out that I wasn't the dad. So
I've been playing the dad role until he was about eighteen,
and you know, I had to bring my mom up
and tell her to take the the photos off the.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
Family family wall. Because he's not our grandson anymore. I
had to explain to my.

Speaker 23 (01:08:26):
My five year old son that he no longer has
a brother, had to take all the photos off our fridge.

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
And did you feel some kind of connection to him
because you'd spent that time with him even though he's
not your son. Yes, yeah, must have had a connection.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
Yeah, definitely, But it's not it's not really, it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
It's not.

Speaker 7 (01:08:45):
His mum was a really horrible mum. I don't want
to get into that, but.

Speaker 23 (01:08:50):
Yeah, I basically became like an ATM machine, Like like,
it's really hard to pear in the kid when you're
not living in the same city. But I did my best.
But when he started to play up, you know, I
didn't have a say on how to how to deal
with him at school. I didn't have any says on
what she should do to help. So I kind of
did step back from about maybe fourteen to when I

(01:09:12):
found out at eighteen, and I didn't even get a
call from here. I had to fund find out through
my friend who I met her through. And yeah, I
mean straight away, the kid got a passport and jumped
on a plane, and when I met his his actual
father who's actually done really well for himself and as
a multi millionaire. So I mean, it would have been

(01:09:34):
a lot better for everyone if she did the DNA
test earlier on.

Speaker 7 (01:09:38):
Because you know, I'm not, I'm not, you know, made
of money.

Speaker 23 (01:09:41):
But I did what I could, and I did what
I legally had to and you know, no no sort
of offer to help, you know, you know, pay back
the money that I spent or just yeah, I mean
I had a had a had a big impact on
my whole life.

Speaker 7 (01:09:57):
And yeah, my son's my son's pretty young.

Speaker 23 (01:10:00):
He lost his mum when he was sixteen months old,
so then to find out that he lost his brother
and he didn't even die, just as just the whole
thing was really really, really really messy. So when this
topic kind of popped up, I know it's a little
bit different to what you guys are probably talking about,
but the whole the whole DNA test can can definitely

(01:10:20):
bring up some you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:22):
Know, I don't know, some bad vibes.

Speaker 23 (01:10:26):
Man, done, you get good, you get good DNA story,
and then you get bad DNA story, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Yeah, absolutely hell of a curveball, Garrett. That's a complex situation. Jared,
Thanks you so much for your call.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number of nine two nine two If you want to
send a text.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Just read Reader Barley's book. It seems like everyone on
the planet has related to pot Marley. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
I think there's a lot of logic to that right here,
those things coming through nineteen nine two is that number?
And taking your calls oz one hundred and eighty ten
eighty It is twelve to three.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News
Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
News Talks he B it is ten two three.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
So what is the strangest, most unexpected thing you found
out about your family history?

Speaker 19 (01:11:09):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighties number to cool, Hi, guys.
A couple of years ago one of my nieces had
a DNA test done. When it came back it was
the usual British, some European, or some Malanesian Polynesian, which
we already knew about Cysus text. But then there was
a meso American and an Andy in Andy's Andy in

(01:11:30):
I guess, which had us scratching our heads. About a
week later, I was reading Witty Eramere's book Navigating the Stars,
and in the section about the Polynesians going to South
America to fetch Kumua, he had written a rather facetious
remark that there seems to be genetic evidence that there
were these Polynesian hunks brought back local ladies with them,

(01:11:50):
as well as the kumina oh okay, certainly food for thought.
Then I found out that our oral fucker Papa includes
a woman back in Raratonga in tenth or eleventh century
who was different, lighter skinned head, who was said to
be a child of the wind. The wind in Central
Pacific blows from the east, the direction of South America.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
That is some great digging neil. That is fascinating.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Yeah, it was weird for the longest time where they
didn't make the connection that there was kumita which was
definitely from South America, and that Polynesians had a connection
to South America. Yeah, because the kuminer seems to have
always proved that to me. Exactly how else did it
get here? Yeah, Yeah, there's an interesting text. Ka Matt
and Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
My American wife didn't think she had any UK heritage
until I used ancestry dot com to see if your
mother's maiden name of Cheney linked her to the former
US Vice president. I found a link, and I keep
going back fighting my wife is actually linked to amberleyn
and therefore Queen Elizabeth the first and the second.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Keep going further back and found my.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Wife is linked to the Norman conquest by Ralph du Cheney,
a friend of and fighter with William the Conqueror.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
No UK heritage interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
I keep those teaks coming through on nine two nine
two and taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
Sorry sorry, Let's have a chat with Petty diet I. Petty,
can I have me? You know, Hi? What's your story?

Speaker 9 (01:13:15):
Well, other than unusual name and producer told the name boys,
you know, I can an alien mm hmm. And my
ancistors come out from England after from good Night in

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the winter to Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Right. What's the last name Penny Jess.

Speaker 9 (01:13:39):
And j tre in Thelaugh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:42):
No, nothing funny about that.

Speaker 9 (01:13:45):
Really, progress something comes from you by laughing about it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
It's got some connotations, the petty, but carry on, yeah anyway, Yeah,
we'll they lest England.

Speaker 9 (01:14:00):
I don't know if they left England and there he
has been into Tasmania mm hmm. And on the boat
one of the boys story and my grandfather married to
sister right, and they set up home and candy and

(01:14:26):
I'm staying the rand over there. And they donated as
a school uh in pasts of Taslvania, which was called Jedsonville.
And yeah, my father joined the war. He came to
the musical and joined the war and went on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Hence the name Jeds and Petty. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
We can see why some people get a laugh out
of that, but that's a hell of a history, Thank
you very much. Nineteen ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
My mate had a DNA test and he found out
he was the son of Maurice gibb right from the begs.
Some Roxboro will be very very jealous of that, and
we'll give you Tim Roxbord's number. Yeah, yeah, he'll be
able to help you with the lineage. H exies, gay guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:09):
My biggest surprise was to find out that I had
an American ancestor who married my great great great grandmother,
who was born in London in eighteen twenty in the
Hocky Younger in eighteen thirty six from.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
David's My dad has had two litters, four children from
his first wife and only me from his second wife.
My half brother did a genealogy test, and then my
half sister also did one and found out that my
dad was only a dad to two of my half
brothers and sisters, and that those two were only rated
through their mother, not dad. His wife had had two
of those kids with someone else. Oh, his best friend

(01:15:42):
dun't dun't, dunt dn't. It was quite scandalous. He's the
stexst I bet it was, Bet it was. This is
a good text as well, okaday guys.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Our eldest Melanie Lynski, the famous actress, did a program
called Find Your Roots. She discovered, courtesy of my husband
and my saliva sent to Ireland, that her great grandfather
was a bit of a lad. My dad had looked
for his parents all his later life. Mal's girlfriend lived
in Wanganui, was a brilliant rower, but sadly forgot he
was married a couple of times, and that discrepancy brought

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our dad into the world. The story was way more
sadder than that. Your show is great, By the way
warmest regards.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Kaylenski, the sixer says, have you noticed that everyone has
related to either royalty or someone famous. I'm not sure
if this is real, DNA or fantasy, but that's the thing.
People check everything, but the only ones that they bring
up are the ones that are famous people. Exactly yeah.
I mean yeah, you know, like someone in a hundred
years might find out they're related to me, but they'll
just scroll right past. Don't worry about that one. Yeah,

(01:16:39):
all the way back to Napoleon. Exactly right. Great discussion.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Deg you to everyone who called through and send us
attiques on that one. Really enjoyed that conversation. New Sport
and Weather as fast approaching. This song is everywhere again, Andrew,
we're going to ban this from rotation, Sheaper.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
I used to like it. A lot of people like
it in taxes. Use us next a bit more punishing,
come on, just playing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Talk said be get a to you, welcome back into
the shelters, seven past three, and just he heads up
in about twenty five minutes. The moment you're a waitful
new Zealander of the wait looking forward to that Who
will it be?

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
Who will it be?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
But in the meantime, we should want to have a
chat about something you brought up a little bit earlier
in the show met there was something that shocked and
surprised you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
Yeah, and what's even more shocking and surprising is when
I bring it to the world. I heard this and
I thought my fiance is lost to god. Damn mind,
you did say that. And then it turns out that
what she said was completely saying, and most of the
world's on board with me. So she says, she says
to me, this morning, she says, Tracy says to me,
she says, she says, she says, you walk the dog

(01:18:13):
this morning, and I'll walk them tonight. And I was like, well,
if I walk them this morning, you don't need to
walk them tonight because he said his walk. Yes. She says, nay, nay,
you have to walk dogs twice a day. And I said, what,
I've und this dog for eleven years. I never knew this.
She goes, what he's been being walked twice a day.
You're only involved in one of them, and that you

(01:18:34):
have to walk twice dogs twice a day, And I've
never heard the like, I understand that you should probably
walk your dog at least once a day, but twice
a day. Who has got time to walk the dog
twice a day?

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
This just a millennial thing, mat Heith, because when you
said that, I was shocked that you were shocked about
the one a day. I'm with, Tracy, it's got to
be at least two a day, maybe sometimes three. I mean, look,
I spent a lot of my time walking my dog,
many many man hours, but that is just what I've
accepted in my life that it needs to be at
least two. I heard once upon a time someone said,

(01:19:10):
I don't know who You've got to walk your.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Dog twice a day, And I've lived by that. Well,
this Texas says walking your dog only once a day
is cruel. But don't a lot of people just leave
their dog in the backyard and just don't walk it
at all. I'll put them on a treadmill or something. Yeah,
we have a three year old Steffie who has to
be walked twice a day, according to my wife. Yeah,
but see, I can understand if it's one of those

(01:19:34):
things like that that. What was that movie about pets
at home or of it? You know there was a
movie with pitts stay at home and apartments in New York.
That's right, yep, I can understand that. But my dog's
pathetically small, and he has a dog door which is
actually a cat door, so he can go out and
he can buddy walk himself around the yard if he
wants to get his steps up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Tiny dog's tiny walks. Yeah, yeah, I suppose that is
because he does have little legs and gruanted, my dog's
got she's pretty, he's sangly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
He's supposed to be minishnails and meets Jack Russell. But
I think he's got cooney cooney pig.

Speaker 4 (01:20:08):
There.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
I can see that he's got such a barrel body
in such tiny little legs. He laughs a belly rubber
saying to your here, Tyler, Colin walking down the hall
of our house or there's little legs is equivalent of
of you know, your dog Pepper going around a half
hour walk?

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Yeah, I ad one hundred eighty ten eighty. What do
you reckon? I mean, is Matt crazy? Just taking Colin
out for once once a day, turns out for the
long time. I mean, how long do you reckon this
has been happening that Tracy has secretly been taking Colin
out before you get up.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
With just.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Indignation, that's it. That when she couldn't believe that I
thought one a day was enough. Hi, guys, most of
my friends walk their dogs morning and evening. So it
seems to be a thing that I just didn't know
a doubt that we take our dog on two walks
a day. Funny because he's inside all day and we
don't have a yard him to Rome. And that's my point.

(01:20:59):
We've got a yard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
If you're out there and you're doing a three a
day operation, I had one hundred eighty ten eighty. I mean,
if you're getting out three times a day, that is
that is impressive.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
But what do you reckon? I mean, is it true?
This is an absolute lie? This text here, Matt, you
only work three hours a day, How can you not
have time for two walks for your dog? Wrong? That
is not true. No, we work four hours a day.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Exactly, Get it right. You've sure changed us twenty five percent.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
You may not be in part of the country that
gets us for four hours, but for a lot of
the country we start at twelve. Yep, some of the
country we start at one. We're here for at least
four hours. So working my fingers to the bone for
four hours a day, I don't have time to walk
my mini schnails a Jack Russell cross twice oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighty ze number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
How many times do you think it's right to actually
walk a dog per day? Tell us at nine two
ninety two, and doesn't make a difference of the dog smaller.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
This is true of Tyler, and this is what Sean's saying.
Only vapors and smokers walk their dog twice a day. Yeah,
I mean, are you walking the dog or you walking
your lungs? Why not both? Why not both? It is
eleven past three.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Us talk sa'd be fourteen past three. How often should
you take your dog out per day?

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
For a week? Walkie? People pampering their dogs too much? Explain, Well,
that's saying we walk out border collie three times a day.
Who's got time to walk your dog three times a day.
It's not a you know, it's not a human. Not
that I walk humans. Just give it a good puzzle
or something. It'll be right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
This thinks to s is get our guys. Yep, absolutely
twice a day unless the weather is not up to part.
But my dogs have stumps as well instead of legs,
so we usually keep our walks pretty short, but they
always get out twice.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
I cannot believe this. I cannot believe that it's a
generally conceived thing or agreed on thing that you walk
a dog twice a day. And not only that that
I'm getting abuse that people saying I'm a cruel and
shouldn't own a dog. People are pretty angry. But what
about people that don't have media jobs like me, Like
you know, people accuse us of only working four hours
a day? What are people? How do people have time

(01:23:03):
that get up? They've got kids, they go like, get
them ready to scull, they drop them off atschool, They
work longer than an eight hour day, they come home out.
How normal people are supposed to walk their dog two
times a day.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Again, it's a millennial thing, man. A lot of these
people don't have kids. They're pets of their kids, so
then their whole life revolves around the pit.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
Yeah right, you get up in the morning, it's all
about the pet. You're going to go for the walk.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Then you've got to play around with them for a
little bit. You're gonna give them some mental stimulation.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Then you go to work.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
You work your nine to five, then you come back
to get them back out. Then you're going to give
them the best food available.

Speaker 3 (01:23:34):
Is that this is my life. I'm marrying a minute millennial.
That's what's the problem. I think this is what's going
on here. So all the love that I center, that
I that I and care and work and concern that I,
you know, bestow on my kids, you millennials are bestowing
on your dogs. Colin's missed out. It hasn't missed out. Actually, guys,

(01:23:59):
you need to work your dogs twice a day, regardless
of their size, of breed. Lack of time for them
isn't an excuse. Unfortunately, we start at day at three am,
go to the gym, walk the dogs, walk for twelve
to forty hour, work for twelve to forty hours, then
go for another walk.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Nonsense, No way you can feed all that in a day.
You're for twelve to forteen hours and you've fit and
all that nonsense.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
You keep saying you own Colin, bro. Everyone knows Colin
owns you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Yeah, yeah, good cool o'bviously found a loophole, mad Ee,
I reckon you can get away with it if there's
another dog in the house. If you've got more than
one dog, I reckon you could get away with the
one one walk a day because they are entertaining themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Jenny, your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
I'm a doggie walker, doggie day here.

Speaker 22 (01:24:41):
Hang on, I'm just going to pull over so I
don't hold up traffic, okay, And I'm just coming back
from your way with a bunch of dogs. But anyway,
long story short, it depends how often and where your
dog is, how often goes to the toilet, and where
is it outside or inside? You have to do something
in the morning, you have to do something in the
evening because that's when they generally poke, or during the

(01:25:02):
day if they're outside.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
What if your dog's pathetically small like mine, Jenny, and
it can go out the cat door and do its
business whenever it wants.

Speaker 22 (01:25:10):
Oh, that's even better.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
But does in that case you spill? Is it still
do you still have to walk them twice a day
under those circumstances.

Speaker 22 (01:25:18):
Well, little dogs need much less, and big dogs obviously,
But as long as they're getting their enrichment. So whatever
their favorite thing is, do that with them. If they
love caddles, if they love bull play, if they like
running around playing with another dog, meet up with a
mate with another dog. But just do what your dog loves.
It's no rule of.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Thumb, now, Jenny, is it true that it's the snuffing
that's more important than the actual case. It's the out all.

Speaker 22 (01:25:46):
Of the above. Dogs need to snuff, They need to
see what's going on, who's been there, who's done white,
and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
So let it do.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
Yeah. Yeah, And are some dogs more snuffy than others?
If you're walking dogs, do you have to tailor for
different types of dogs?

Speaker 22 (01:26:04):
Well, yeah, I do have dogs because dogs are cable
put up with somebody having a snuff at their bum
or their privates, and they're wanted them sniff their faces
as well. But if they do it too long, I mean,
there's time frames and these boundaries and dogs will let
other dogs know that's enough, or they'll walk away with

(01:26:25):
all sets or whatever. But dogs are really good at communicating,
and when you're with dogs a lot, you pick up
on everything. And yeah, they're good at communicating with each other.
Some are a little bit slower than others, and puppies
definitely need to be trained, and you let the big
dogs train a little the young dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Yeah, what about off leash, Jenny does that? You know
you can get a lot more And if they're off
leash and let them just go wild, well.

Speaker 22 (01:26:54):
Yes to No, you have to be really careful because
if you go to a park, there's obviously other dogs there,
people blah blah blah, and you have to pick up
their posts.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
All right, that's the big absolutely, right.

Speaker 22 (01:27:06):
Yeah, You've got to have your eyes on your dog
all the time. So if your dog's out of sign,
you're not seeing what it's doing. You don't know what
it's doing, getting up to mischief, eating something that shouldn't
be eating, or pulling and you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:27:18):
Pick it up.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
So if you're walking multiple dogs, you must be have
to be very aware about the leavings, the sorry, the leavings,
the dog leavings to put it politely, the poops.

Speaker 22 (01:27:30):
Oh oh yeah absolutely, Oh yeah, I've us lots of
parks that I go to that is other people that
walk their dogs. You see them, the dogs off leash
and they're on their cell phone talking away and they're
not watching the dog and the dog's having a number
toes and this is oblivious.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Yeah, they take the dog to they take the dog
to the Vietnam goes. I don't know what's wrong with
their dog. We take it for walks. It's never doing poops,
the vet goes. Are you on your phone the whole walk? Yes,
your dog is doing poops. Yeah, I think if you
called Ginny. Yeah, good to clarify that. I under it.
Eighty ten eighty. So what do you say?

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
How many times a day do you think a dog
really needs to be walked?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Is it too? Is it more? Or are you with
Matt Heath? Is it just the one? What does Sally
mean by this when she says, like most things, you
only need to do it twice a week? Matt, I
don't know which? What else? Very cryptic? What is the
other thing she's getting it? Give us some more contexts,
Shelly nine etis number it is twenty past three. You
definitely got to do the other thing more than twice
a week.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Two past three, Ray welcome to her. Your thoughts on
this new claim. You've got to work your dogs twice a.

Speaker 17 (01:28:45):
Day killing matt killers that Jenny last call. She should
be writing a book on the love language of the dog.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Yeah, it's pretty knowledgeable, she was. Yeah, it was impressive stuff.

Speaker 17 (01:28:57):
Yeah, I reckon our dog needs he walked twice a day.
He's a labordoodles across atwan poodle and labor door. He
needs a good bit of excite, especially if we're leaving
him at home with someone for the day when we're
at work. He typically guests live with my mom a
couple of days a week. And what really helps is

(01:29:18):
if we take him for a good walk in the morning.
Will normally walk him for forty five minutes in the morning,
which is good for us as well.

Speaker 7 (01:29:24):
Yeah, and we'll normally put.

Speaker 17 (01:29:26):
It a shorter walk in the afternoon, maybe half hour.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
See, there's still a lot of good day. There's still
a lot of your waking time on this planet.

Speaker 17 (01:29:35):
Ray walking you down, it's true, But it's good for
your health, man, It's really good for your health. Like
just they say that walking is one of those low
impact things that everyone can do. Everyone can find some
time for and which increases life longevity. With our dog,
he definitely needs to get out and go for a walk,

(01:29:55):
and if we didn't walk him, he would he'd be
just so much energy for my mum to fill us.

Speaker 3 (01:30:02):
Maybe your dog's different from the labradoodle, because when I'm
walking my dog, it's mainly waiting for him. He sniffs
everything for twenty five minutes. I don't get much of
a sweet up. I'm just mainly standing there waiting for him.

Speaker 17 (01:30:17):
We know we no want to take a dog to
a dog park and we go for a lap around
the dog parks. We might walk on like three three
commoners maybe, or if if I'm just going with dog
by myself, I go for a run and if I
run may four or five corners with the dog, and
that tends to be good enough for it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 9 (01:30:36):
It's high.

Speaker 17 (01:30:37):
It's tis thing though, like you know, you you know,
I get it. You've got to keep your dog on
the leash on in places where there are other dogs,
and people can get quite irritated if it's not the case,
and it's you know, it's someone pointed out to me
the other day, it's actually allcorn Council by law that
legally you're meant to be walking a dog. If a

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dog is on a public pavement, it must be leashed.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
I didn't know that. I don't I definitely don't follow that.

Speaker 8 (01:31:05):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 17 (01:31:05):
Always thought like, you know, if your dog's under control,
it's not you know, a menacing dog, a dog which
is aggressive to other dogs or other people. Completely get
it like that, you know, then if the lockdown, I'm like,
we we all know the stories are in the media
over the past month or so where dogs have seriously
heard or killed old people and young people and stuff

(01:31:28):
like that needs to be knocked on the head. So
I think your average dog, which is reasonly well behaved
and maybe runs up to people and has the snuff
and stuff their dogs, I reckon's pretty harmless.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Right, It's one hundred percent harmless. And people know their dogs, right.
So if you've got a dog it's vicious and you're
you're letting it run loose and you don't have a
muzzle on it or whatever, then then you're a terrible person,
and that's that's bad. But if you know your dog,
you know, like my dog, it's not going to hurt
anyone at all. It's you know, it's it's absolutely ridiculous

(01:31:58):
that that you need to worry about. I mean, it's
there's so different. Dogs are so very different between dogs, right,
you know good I mean, if Colin tried to attack someone,
good luck, good luck, be a bold move for gold.

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
You know.

Speaker 17 (01:32:12):
Another thing I got told though, it was a good moment.
Right again, I hadn't thought about it. Like, if you
see someone who's got their dog on leash, sometimes the
people will be doing it for a reason because maybe
their dogs aren't very friendly and they're trying to I
guess I just have people notice the dogs on a
leash and that you shouldn't let your dog go bounding
up for them. And I get it. That kind of

(01:32:34):
makes sense. Like I never really thought of it before
someone told me that, but they basically said, if you
fair person with a dog and the dog's on a leash,
especially in an off leash area, is often a reason
for that, and the owner that should trying to be
responsible and just I guess I warn other people hamo
dogs it's maybe not very friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, But I mean if the dog's on
the leash, then if your dog goes up at least
the dog can get away. Yeah, yeah, hey, thanks to you,
cool Ray appreciate it. The Stixster says, something that's disturbed
me greatly right here. I don't even know if I
know if I should read it out. My next door
neighbor picks up his dog poo with his hands. No way,

(01:33:12):
no way.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I mean, if that's I would rather the social stigma.
If my dog did a you know, did its business
and I don't have any bags and there was there
was a whole group of people around, I would far
prefer just for them to shame me and walk away.

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
Then to get my bare hands and what do you
do with it? At that point? Do you put it
in your pocket?

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
I mean surely not. It's not just cradling it. I
mean we need some more information, name and shame that person.
Fergus welcome, How you do it? Very good?

Speaker 24 (01:33:40):
Hey, I just I mean on this dog walking things,
because I've got border colleagues. I've got three of them
and a very very high energy dog. Yeah, but it's
it's much more about mental stimulation. So I can take
them for a walk for an hour and they'll just
want to go for another walk for an hour like,
it doesn't. It doesn't settle them down. What settles them

(01:34:02):
down a mental stimulation tracks training, getting them to do stuff,
making them think, making them work. It makes their minds work,
all right. So birds that people get out there and
walk with their dogs, that's really good. But if you've
got a high energy dog, unlike Colin, they you're much
better to be, you know, do spend twenty minutes with

(01:34:24):
them just making them do right? Very different and they
love it, Like, yeah, Colin love it to you be surprised. Focus,
But did you say Colin's part Staffy?

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
No, No, Colin is a mini Schnauzer Jack Russell cross.

Speaker 24 (01:34:38):
Oh okay, yeah, they can be pretty sharp.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
Actually, what I've started doing Fergus, that's been made a
big difference for Colin because I saw it on something
when I when i'm you know, I'm not just padding him.
When I get home, I get down on his level
and we touch foreheads and we bond. And someone said
that's like, that's like he accepts at the alpha, the
alpha of the packers home, and he's acknowledging him and
then and then he stays in line from from then on.

Speaker 24 (01:35:05):
Simple things like like we may when I'm preparing their food,
they have the spot where they have to go and
citta and wait, and then when the food gets put down,
I call them one by one.

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
It's not all of it.

Speaker 24 (01:35:18):
What little things that making them think and make work
mine for all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:35:23):
And they love that, don't they. They love doing something
that you've asked them to do. They get excited by it,
don't they.

Speaker 24 (01:35:28):
Yeah, And they definitely need to be walked. And I
think it's awesome that people are walking their dogs, but
mental stimulation is just as important. It's the especially dogs
that are getting left at home. We don't leave ours
at home. Are they either come to work with me
or go to daycare or something like that, because you know,
I just don't like leaving them. I'll leave them locked
up for maybe three hours max. That would be the

(01:35:50):
most I'd even locked up. But other than that, they
start getting up to miss Stiff.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Yeah, thank you for you cool Fergus. What a great discussion.
So what do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Are the Texas that came through direct and more are
on your side that you're crazy if you walk your
dog twice a day, or it's it's the opposite.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
I'm starting to feel like that. I'm going to shut
Colin down completely and seal up as cat door. Zero walks,
zero walks out to himself to be honest. If he
didn't say anything, never would have been an issue. No,
I'm sure I might get on board with two walks.
That's good for the healthy Colin. Yes, he's a good boy.
You're a good boy for listening. Colin, A good boy,

(01:36:26):
A good boy. Colin DEDI behome soon. He loves a
bellly robe. Colin the alpha wolf for the home soon.
You tell him right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Coming up next we get the headlines with Ray Lean
and then New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 13 (01:36:40):
You've talk said be headlines with your Ride, New Zealand's
number one taxi app. Download your Ride today, Mark Manganeri.
Businesses are hoping for transparency and accountability from council following
a review into the Moaw landslide. The review found geotechnical
experts repeatedly warned total on a city council over twenty

(01:37:02):
five years of the risk to life. The government's taking
control of open banking Steam and hoping to roll it
out to other sectors, including insurances. Open banking allows customers
to freely share financial data using apps with the goal
of increasing competition. New Zealand consumers are paying more for
beef mints than ever. Agribusiness banking specialist Rabobank says the

(01:37:27):
average retail price of a kilogram of beef mints is
now well north of twenty four dollars. The government's funding
twenty new specialist classrooms in nine schools across the country.
Specialist classrooms are built for students with high and complex
learning support needs. Simon Bridges on why the South Island's

(01:37:47):
growth rate is a political puzzle for any future government.
You can read his full column at insidherld dot co
dot NZD mcnaw to Matteth and Tyler Adams, The Matteeth.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
And Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Great News, News Talks, there'd be It's time once again
the mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of
the Week. As always, three powerful New Zealanders shall be
equally on it. And remember this is the most inclusive
awards on planet Earth. Any person, group, animal, snacks, smell,
vibe or native bird can be on it. So let's
get on with it. You probably love your dog, but

(01:38:32):
would you lay down your life for it? A Hastings
nurse would. This week, she was walking her family's ten
months old kovoodle, Lottie, when a roaming rotty attacked out
of nowhere. The nurse immediately picked up her dog to
protect it as the rottweiler bit violently into the brave
nurse's arm, gnawing her to the bone. Now with the

(01:38:54):
taste for blood, the raging rotty drag the nurse and
kovoodle to the ground to continue its vicious mornings. At
that moment, another rabid rotty appeared, ready to finish them
both off. I'm going to die, the nurse board, but
she didn't, as the owner of actually appeared, as did
an ambulance and was off to hospital for dog and owner.
Leases of blood.

Speaker 15 (01:39:13):
Thousands of dollars and dozens of stitches later, owner and
pooch were home safe and sound, a beloved family dog
saved and.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
A Kiwi hero born. Hastings nurse Sophie grea for risky
at all for a kaboodle.

Speaker 15 (01:39:28):
Named Lottie, You are a new Zealander of the Week.
He was in the top team for two races.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Then a horn dog stabbed him in the back before
he had a chance to shine, but they couldn't keep
him down. And through grit and skill and another opportunity
brought about by a fellow driver's broken hand.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
This absolute Kiwi legend is once.

Speaker 3 (01:39:55):
Again in our heart. F one seat, Liam mcausum Lawson
back in the red full Senior team for at least
a week. You've gone as fast as you can in
the zoo carb. Now you get to go much faster
in a much flasher car. Do we dare to dream
you could get that podium you so dearly deserved? Either way,

(01:40:16):
you are a new Zealander of the Week. Many of
us thought that our national bird was simply a cute
and lovable whimp, a flightless joke, a fat, fluffy little wounder,
a scared nocturnal novelty that looks like it needs to
pull its baggy pants up over its tiny little butt.

(01:40:40):
We were so wrong. This week footage emerged from Predator
Free olvera island way down south, showing two of our
beloved Avian icons beating the living crap out of each other.
Turns out our national bird is actually the kind of
hardcore daytime ask agger you don't want to mess with

(01:41:03):
And the fact these terrifying Kiwi's more t Rex than Twoey.

Speaker 25 (01:41:06):
Are smashing each other's heads and with legs and claws,
it means they're getting territorial with all the healthy numbers
being produced and so for beautifully filming two kiwis physically
assaulting each other.

Speaker 26 (01:41:20):
And making us even prouder of our powerful, fluffy natural
treasures Kiwi Fight Club camera crew, Kale Crossed and Madison
Push You are now a.

Speaker 27 (01:41:33):
Couple of Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on US
towards f B New Zealanders of the Week. Go hard,
you've blood thirsty Kiwi's and take it away, Sir Howard mores.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
O med Ethan Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:42:59):
Another incredibly worthy winner this week for New Zealander of
the Week. Right coming up next to your Blex will
finally face their old foe South Africa. Sunday morning, We'll
go live to New US Talks. Heb's voice of Rugby
Elliott Smith, who is life in Johannesburg that is coming
up next when he won to four.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Your home of Afternoon Talk, mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons
call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:24):
EDB, News Talks AB. So here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
The All Blacks in the spring Box will finally face
each other during rugby's greatest rivalry tour. It All kicks
off three am Sunday, New Zealand Time the Voice of
Rugby on News Talks HEREB Elliott Smith is live in Johannesburg.
He'll have the call live right here on News Talks here.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
B Elliott's hello, do you good?

Speaker 23 (01:43:47):
Eight?

Speaker 19 (01:43:48):
Very well?

Speaker 23 (01:43:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
What's the atmosphere over there? Like Elliott, does it feel
like the All Blacks are walking into a lions den?

Speaker 28 (01:43:56):
Always it's Alice Parking, Johannesburg. It's the toughest place to play,
i'd ide probably in world rugby. I know we value
eating part very highly, but in terms of intimidation and atmosphere,
I think Ellis Park has it over the All Blacks
and make no bones about it. I know there's been
plenty of tour groups that have left New Zealand and

(01:44:17):
set sail figures of course for Johannesburg and South Africa,
but they're going to be severely outnumbered by a very
passionate South African crowd on Saturday afternoon our time Sunday
morning back home. But there is plenty of atmosphere and
build up that the media is full of talk about

(01:44:37):
this series. Plenty of South African junos at the media
conferences and even around our hotel here there have been
wearing spring Box colors most of the week and the
place is decorated in South African flag, So for every
in New Zealander that has come over, they will know
what they're walking into over the next few days.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
All right, Elliet, let's talk about the team. Damien McKenzie
obviously had a lot of issues with his ankle.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
He's back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
How confident are you He's genuinely one hundred percent? And
do you think the Box will immediately test that ankle
with the highball.

Speaker 28 (01:45:08):
Chance his second part? First, absolutely, I think they will target.
I think they'll put plenty of pressure on him under
the high ball throughout the game, and that's going to
be something that he's going to have to deal with.
I saw it earlier in the week at their training.
He looked like he was moving relatively freely. But it's
different testing and in a game scenario. You know, when
he first got injured against the Sharks, Dave and he

(01:45:28):
always thought he should be okay for the first Test,
but that wasn't so sure a few days later. But
I don't think they would have played him if they
weren't completely sure that he is ready to go. I
think you'll Blacks do, though, think that they've got to
win this first test to get off on a on
a good notes. They've clearly targeted it and I think
they've put all their resources into getting the likes of

(01:45:49):
Damien McKenzie, right will Jordan cam Roygard, who also had
a couple of niggles out on the park. So I
don't think they would have played him if he was
only say, eighty ninety percent. So I think he's good
to go. But make no mistake, the spring box will
zero in on that ankle from minute one.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
I am sure of that.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Fabian Holland has gone from missing the entire Super Rugby
season to starting against the world number one. How big
a call is that? And what has he done in
those tour games to leap frog Patrick Tupoloto.

Speaker 28 (01:46:17):
It is a bit cal from Dave Rennie to put
him in and the other selectors as well. Look, I
think you know we saw what Fabi Holland could do.
Jerry one will rugby breakthrough player of the year. But
it always like the first Test was going to be
a little too soon for him, given the amount of
rugby or the lack of rugby had over the last
nine months at shoulder injury. Only forty or so minutes

(01:46:39):
for a targe and a ranfully shallenge in pre season
and uple of tour games. But he was everywhere against
the balls last week and touring put out a full effort.
He didn't do everything right, but I think what would
have attracted the All Black attention is going this guy's
got absolute ticker and he's been into everything. He was
from one end like to the others, scrambling really well,

(01:47:02):
as I say, dropped a couple of balls. But he
is an immense presence and I think they believe that
he go deep into this game and cause the spring
Box some issues at line out times. Such a big
frame two hundred and three centimeters alongside Josh Lord who's
the same height and has filled out his body a
big go over the last couple of years and built
up that mass it's an imposing second row and when

(01:47:24):
you come to South Africa, you've got to really try
and take it to those big spring box locks. And
that's exactly what I think they want out of you
and Holland on Sunday morning.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
And finally, Elliott, be honest, you're in Johannesburg. It's the
biggest rivalry in rugby. Alice Park is going to be
absolutely fairal what's your prediction and are you brave enough
to give us a score?

Speaker 22 (01:47:46):
Well?

Speaker 28 (01:47:47):
The springbooks, you know, going his favorites. I think that's
absolutely the case and the two time world champions, but
I like the way the All Blacks are playing. They
have a sense of belief in that game again and
the way that they want to play. So look, I've
said it on the our rag byd Wreck podcast. I
think the All Blacks will get up by three points
and put a you know, staking the ground to begin

(01:48:10):
the series. So I'm saying to All Blacks by three
on Sunday morning to go one. They'll up in the
series and wouldn't that be a fantastic start?

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
Beautifully said Elliott. Thank you very much, mate, Go well
with the call on Sunday. Enjoy the atmosphere. Enjoy Joe
Berg and we'll catch up with you next week.

Speaker 28 (01:48:25):
Look forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
That is, of course, Elliot Smith, Newstalk's head Bees Voice
of Rugby. That match kicks off three am Sunday morning,
New Zealand time, and you can listen to it right
here on news Talk's head be.

Speaker 18 (01:48:38):
Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
It is thirteen to four.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
So the other big sporting fixture over the weekend, of course,
is the F one. Liam Lawson is returning to Red
Bulls senior ranks for the F one Dutch Grand Prix
at Zandvought this weekend, joining us once again as New
Zealand's premier year F one reporter with the Herald Alex
Powell geta Alex afternoon boys?

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
How are we very good?

Speaker 4 (01:48:57):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
Alex is getting promoted to the Red Bull Racing team
from the Racing Bulls team. A good thing for Liam
or not?

Speaker 5 (01:49:03):
I mean, I'm going to correct you very slightly. He's
not been promoted. He's a replacement. But yeah, it is
a very good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
For the race. You get what I'm saying. He's I
get what.

Speaker 5 (01:49:13):
You're saying, but these things matter. Is it a good thing?

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
You look at the talk about Liam Lawson's future and
does he is he going to stay in the Red
Bull family beyond this year? If they were going to
get rid of him, then they would not be giving
him this opportunity. You look at what he's going to
learn over the next race and potentially longer, depending on
how long he's in there for. It's not something Red
Bull would let him do if they had any plans
to get rid of him. So I'm seeing this as

(01:49:38):
a really good sign for Lam Lawson and his future.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
How different is the car that Liam has been promoted
up to from the car he's been racing all year?
How different are the two cars?

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
It's very different. I mean, the general way it's considered
is that Racing Bulls car is very good to drive,
not just for Red Bull but across the field. On
the other side of that, you think the Red Bull car,
just by reputation, is probably the worst. You look at
what it's been in recent years where all the talkers
a whole it's designed for Max Withstappen and you know
they just want to favor him. But the more we
see that's probably not the case, and the car is

(01:50:11):
just really bad. But the Stappens that good that he's
the only one who can get anything out of it,
and we've seen so many drivers fall by the wayside
as a result, Easik Hadjar has been able to come
and really stabilize that team exceptionally this year without getting
too much praise. But you do have to worry that
this car is actually still a handful.

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Speak of hands. Is there any any update any of
the state of Hadjar's hand? How long will Liam be
in the in the senior team.

Speaker 5 (01:50:37):
Look, I've been on the phone for the last two
days just trying to get someone to confirm something, and
no one seems to know it as being really closely
guarded for some reason, which makes me think it might
be a lot worse than letting on if it is
a broken wrist. Like you remember we saw with Daniel Ricardo,
what three four years ago when Lawson first came into
that team, that he actually missed five races, which you think,

(01:50:59):
you know, that was great for loss at the time
because it was its first five races in for no one. Yeah,
but you look at what that context of it will
be now, and five races at this time of year
in this car would be so much bigger for the
Kiwi than what he got the first time out.

Speaker 3 (01:51:13):
Yeah, So speaking of you know, getting up there, the
Dutch Grime Prix has got a sprint as well as
a main race. What would be a good result for
Liam this weekend? What could be celebrated?

Speaker 5 (01:51:26):
The sprint really does throw the whole weekend into a
bit of chaos. It means that Liam's only going to
get one practice session. He has an hour tonight to
learn everything he can about this car and then immediately
take it into a qualifying session. So that's going to
be so difficult for any driver, but especially now that
it's our guy in there. What would be a good result?
I think anything in the top eight would be absolutely amazing.

(01:51:46):
You know, you look at what he's done all year
and consistently being in the top ten. He's been in
the points more than he's not. He's been in the
points more times than he was in the entirety of
last season. But just being able to carry that on
I think points we'd accept, just given the circumstances. But
a top eight finish, potentially a top six would just
be incredible for him.

Speaker 3 (01:52:05):
And I'm just looking at the weather there, it looks pretty.
Is the potential rain a good or a bad thing
for Limb?

Speaker 5 (01:52:13):
Normally I'd say it's very good. He's great in the wet.
Most Kiwi drivers are good in the wet because we
just have such inclement weather conditions over here. But given
how difficult that car might be to drive, you sort
of want things as easy as they can. But you
remember that to the start of last year in Melbourne
when it rained and Liam looked like he was really struggling,
but he did have a lid on the conditions, and
then they left him out for one lap too long

(01:52:34):
and he lost control and hit the wall and that
was the end of his race, and that started the
run that saw him lose that seat altogether. So I
would love to see dry conditions, but I also know
that if he does actually get up to speed quickly
and adapt, the wet race could actually be something that
rarely brings out the best in them.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
And finally, what about the supercars we've got? Will we
be watching hipswitch?

Speaker 4 (01:52:55):
You've got?

Speaker 3 (01:52:55):
You've got Limb's mate Matt Pain do him very well.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Look, I will try and do supercars, but I'm going
to go full on weekend. Well no, Look, because I'm
thinking now, come on I report. Yeah, I'm doing F
one tonight and so the Warriors tomorrow back into F
one at what ten pm and then into qualifying and
then the Wax Test match. So I'm going to be
flat out.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
I'll watch the Supercars for you and keep you updated.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
Yeah, let me know, please, Yeah, we'll do right, Alex,
thank you very much for the catch up, mate, Go
well this weekend and we'll see Becky in next weekend.
That is New Zealand's premiere IF one reporter Alex Powell Beggary.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Surely it is eight minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons US Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
B News Talks HEREB it is five to four. I've
got a question for you. What are you most excited
about for the weekend? Tyler. You've got the Warriors, got
the All Blacks, got the Black fans. You've got a
bunch of MPC games, including my beloved Targo playing Wellington
on Sunday at five. You've got the Supercars. It's going
Matt Payne, you know I'm going to be doing nothing
but watching sport. What are you most excited about.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
I've got to say the AB's visits South Africa has
been a long time. There's been a lot of high
pup as they've been going through the club Team Gary,
it is scary. The prediction is I reckon the AB's
by five.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
Yeah. And how good of Elliot Smith getting up there
early to talk to us from South Africa. Lardest working
man on news Talks. Heb all right, that's the end
of the show. Thank you so much for listening and
thanks for all your calls and text. The great and
Powerful Heather deepless Ellen is up next and after four
she talks to a property lawyer about a ruling from
mb which might spell legal trouble for thousands of airbnb

(01:54:37):
owners around the country. But right now, Tyler, why am
I playing this ninety eighty six collab between run DMC
and Aerosmith.

Speaker 4 (01:54:48):
What a tune?

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Walk this way Sis on the back of the conversation
we had about how many times you should walk your.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
Dog, Yeah that's right here saying you should walk them
this way and that way is twice a day.

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
What a co lab?

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Yeah, fantastic? All right, you seem busy we'll let you
go on Matt Heath. That's Tyler Adams, and we'll be
back live on your radio Monday afternoon until the give
them a tas of kiwek

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
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