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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Talk said, be very good afternoon. Do you welcome into
Friday show? Really good? DA have of you're listening in
and hope you're having a great day. How you doing,
Man Heath?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Very good. I was talking before about lights in your
bedroom and even the smallest little allied can interrupt the
quality of your sleep. Yep, you may not know it,
but just a few LED's a little light on the
heat pump or wherever it is in your room, just
that little light on the TV, whatever it is on
the charger, that that is sort of insipidly affecting the

(01:01):
quality of your sleep. This texta says hotel digital clock
lights are brighter than the sun and annoying. The other
thing about hotel rooms that are so bizarre is trying
to work out how to turn all the lights off.
How many time you've been in a hotel room and
it's like, you know, it's an escape room puzzle to
just try and work out where all the lights are

(01:23):
to turn them off. Yeah, yeah, because there's always an
elaborate lighting system in there. But yeah, there's been many
a time when I've been in a hotel room and
the power of the digital clock has been too much.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, just on the lights. When we were down in total,
and not too long ago, and we finished the gag
and it was quite late at night we got back
to the hotel room. That was me. I had to
get the torch light going on the phone. I had
no idea how the operation. I thought, well, this is it.
I'm just going to sleep with no lights, no teally,
I'm just going to not use the power here. But
it took me so long to figure out. Yeah, but

(01:55):
they had the week cards that you had to import
horizontally because usually it's vertically so to chuck it in horizontally.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
But that's a totally different problem there, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah, that was just me being an absolute idiot.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
No, maybe that's just that complex. He's about slipping the
little thing into the thing so you can have any
power at all. But I guess, I guess you're right
if in most hotels, if you're worried about the light,
just pull that thing out and you've got no power
at all.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, right, just a quick heads up coming up after
three point thirty because it is a Friday the moment
you'll wait for New Zealander of the Week very much.
Looking forward to that, and also we're going to catch
up with Jason Pine who's live in Canada ahead of
that must win All Whites match against Belgium.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, what's kickoff?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Is? What?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
One pm tomorrow I believe, so, yeah, we'll get to
the body of that. Yeh, I'm pretty sure it's one pm.
I've organized to meet some mates at one pm, so
either that's drinks beforehand or kickoff. It's going to be
a good time. Nonetheless, it's exciting. It's a big ask,
but Jason Pine will have all the info on.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That, yep. And we're also going to catch up with
Alex Powell, New Zealand's premiere if One Reporter the f
One in Austria this weekend. And there's also a lot
of stories or skullduggery maybe around Liam Lawson's future, so
looking forward to breaking that down.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, what aach that is all right?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That is coming up after three o'clock, but right now
let's have a chat about this discussion. In New Zealand,
doctor who was arrested at Wellington Airport over nearly one
hundred and eighty thousand dollars an unpaid student loan debt.
He has had his passport taken off him and he
cannot leave New Zealand until he starts to repay. He is,
of course, one example of a tougher IID crackdown on
the nearly two point three billion dollars owned by overseas

(03:30):
based borrowers. So the man lived in Australia for several
decades and he says his original loan balloon dramatically due
to interest and penalties applied while abroad. He needed to
come home because his dad was unwell. But unfortunately for him,
he was picked up at the border and now needs
to repay that loan. But he's not alone. This is
a situation shared by thousands of Kiwis, around seventy percent

(03:52):
of whom are in arrears on their student loans. The
government says they need to be tougher on this because
it is a lot of money owed and when people
took out those loans they understood what the penalties were
going to be, while advocates say many borrowers are overwhelmed
both by those debts, argue the system discourages people from
coming back to n Z.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, well, what do you mean it discourages them coming
back from the ended.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, because they've got the descent and they're going to
be arrested at the border. That's what the advocates say.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
All right, Okay, Well, the thing is that people are
mentioning Okay, the game is New Zealand's bildom. It's three
pm on Saturday. Okay, nice, So I'm being hijacked by
my friends for drinks from one pm.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's going to be a good time.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
So knowing then by three pm, they're not going to
know what's going on, yeah okay. So as far as
these loans are concerned. The other thing to remember is
that you're only paying twenty to twenty five percent of
the actual costs for your degree. So this guy that's
borrowed money to become a doctor and isn't paying it back,
do we have any sympathy for him when the taxpayer

(04:56):
is not only covering that, but covering the other eighty
percent of you know, seventy five to eighty percent of
their education, that they're then overseas in Australia giving those
benefits to the Australi Alian economy and not ours paying
their tax over there. So I'm just not sure where
the sympathy comes from from this and for this person.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Tell us what you think on this O eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do you have any sympathy
for this gentleman, this doctor and other people who can't
come into the country because of those loans or do
you agree with the government that they need to go
hard on reclaiming some of this money. Nine two ninety
two is the text number. Tell us your view. It
is eleven past one.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
This Texas says education should be free. The idea that
we put our young people into debt for bettering themselves
disgusts me. Then putting them in prison for coming home
to see a sick dag dad revolting. Okay, what do
you think of that? One hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
It is twelve past one.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
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Speaker 2 (05:55):
Be fourteen past one. Do you have any sympathy for
people who are overseas. They owe a lot of money
to the IRD for unpaid student loans, and they get
stopped at the border and they're no longer able to
leave until they repay it. What do you say, Oh,
one hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number to call?
Get a Peter.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Here, you mate, I've got no sympathy for them whatsoever.
I'd like to know who's running this this this scheme,
this loan scheme students, because it's been going on for
years and I mean, it's not hard to fix. I
just can't believe that that, you know. I'd like to know.
You know, we're talking about the brain drain and leaving
leaving the country. I'd like to know the percentage of

(06:35):
those people are leaving have got degrees and taking New
Zealand IP with them and all their all their all
their qualifications and and becoming doctors overseas and things like that.
What the percentage of those people are. And the other
thing is if you keep doing the same thing over
and over and over and expect a different result, I mean,
that's a that's the definition of insanity. So why don't

(06:57):
they Why don't they look at it and say, okay,
well we'll give you a loan, but if you forfeit
your you know, you need a guarantee for and if
you're guarantewards your parents and there and they're in the gun.
It's such an easy thing to fix. I can't believe
that there's a still getting kicked down the road thirty
years on. You know, it's just bizarre.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, so it's quite amazing numbers, isn't it. Almost seventy
percent of overseas base borrowers and in arrears. I mean,
that's not a system that's working, isn't.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
So so who you know, what do they what? Just
how it's not hard to fix. So that's the thing
that I don't I can't get my.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Head around there.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
So you said I could fix it in five minutes.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
So the way you'd fixt it, Peter, is when you
get this student loan, you have to you know, you
have to have a parent or someone that that signs
up as a guaranteur.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
Yeah, yeah, just like any other loan.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
Why should it be like any any different to any
other money you borrow.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Should be on the parent's taxpayers money. So it's just
a magic, magical unicorn money that doesn't come from anywhere.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
Well, yeah, it is on the parents. Of course, it's
on the parents. Why wouldn't it be that it's part
of the schooling, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
But we're through a general I hear he's saying, Peter,
a generation where you carry.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Out Sorry, but we went there a generation where well,
you know, we left school and we went to work.
Then you've got a whole new group of people that
left school to go to university because that was the
thing to you know, fill fill in some time until
they decided what they want to do. In the meantime,
they get alone. I mean, it's just it's just crazy.
I mean it's so hard to fix, just make them accountable.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
But this guy, so he's taken off to Australia for
a couple of decades, right, so let's argue he's in
his forties, which roughly aligns with the timeline. So now
he wants to come back as dad's crook?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Then the parents issue to sort that out for him.
That's what I worry about, Peter. Then this guy's bug
it off for too long. Now he's got elderly parents.
They can't sort out his life. He's an adult.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
No, of course, not alone. Alone the person takes a
loan out as the responsible person. But that would make
them then pay it off because the oldly parents aren't
going to then want to be accountable. And if they are,
then they'll have to sell part of their house or
sell something. And it's it to pay the debt that
they went guarante a thirty years ago.

Speaker 7 (09:12):
Why not.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
That's that's account called accountability. That's what that's I mean,
we're all going to be accountable.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah, yeah, we worry there about that accountability. Yeah, no,
hear what you're saying, Peter. But that accountability to me
is this guy can't come back into the country to
look after his sick dad. He tried it, he's got arrested.
Now we can't leave yet. Granted he's with his dad,
and I know that sounds heartless, but that's reality. That
is accountability right there. That you try and step foot
back in the country, you owe all this money, you

(09:38):
there's a high likelihood you're going to get arrested.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Okay, So if he's if he robbed the bank and
achieved the same thing, would you would you feel the same?

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh, I don't feel sympathy for him. No, I think
that's not I think that is accountability.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah, but if you rob the bank, would you let
a bank rob it back in? Because his dad was cooked?
But but you know he robbed the bank and you
can't can't actually get him. But you know, so I
don't think it's any different they are. I mean, look
at the country. Can't afford it, that's the bizarre thing.
I mean, I can't believe this government has let it
go or any go on for so long.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
The weird thing about it. So they've got this degree,
so it's a medical degree. We need doctors here, so
you know, he's stuck here, So go to work as
a doctor and pay off your debt off. Yeah, I mean,
it's not the worst hardship in the world being a
doctor in New Zealand, doesn't. I mean, it's not exactly
going to the salt mines or the good.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Lead in making money as a New zeal ip.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah. Well yeah, and we're only asking him, as I
said before, you we're only asking him to pay twenty
five percent of his degree. I mean, the taxpayer has
already covered seventy to five to eighty percent of his
degree to become a doctor so he can go overseas
and make money in Australia. Is Australia, isn't he? Yep, yeah, Australia.
So we're not asking a lot, really are we? Yeah?

(10:58):
Thank If you called Peter.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, good call. Do you agree with Peter? Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighties number to call if you
want to send a text? Nine two ninety two is
that number?

Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well? This is?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
This is this text makes no sense. That's kind of
what I'm saying. How the hell is he supposed to
pay this back if he's stuck here in New Zealand
away from his job. Well, if he's a doctor, be
a doctor here until you paid it off.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's a pretty good deal to make with the iod,
right you say, Look, I don't have the money on me.
Whether or not that's the case. Okay, court, you can
stay in New Zealand and work as a doctor for
three years and we'll consider that debt. What isn't that
a better deal than going to jail.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
And the other seventy percent of your seventy five percent
of the cost that.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
We pay as a we punishment.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is this some way that the ird could you know
when you make this loan you know, to people, and
this huge amounts of money. That's somehow I'm not sure.
I'm just trying to think about it now and I'm
sure people have thought of it. That the ID is confirmed.
When you leave the country, you have to confirm where
you are and give context of where you are going
to be when you're overseas. It would make sense because

(11:58):
you don't want to stop I mean, you can't be
unrealistic to stop people ever going on a holiday once
they've got a degree. Yeah, but it should be when
you leave the country. You know, we have technology. Now
your past book comes up, you've got a you could
leave the country. You need to give solid leads to
where you're going to be over in that country so
the IOD can get hold of you.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, if you know how it works, by all means,
give us all O one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
It is twenty one past.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
One, feelers focused informed. It's the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
So Winston Pleader's liked I mean, has he just gone
on flip So he was against it because there were
too many Indians. Now there aren't enough Indians. Is he
playing games with you?

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Todd.

Speaker 8 (12:33):
Well, well, that's what it feels like. I mean, all
of this is well rehearsedince in the public, and we've
talked it through before I went to India for the signing.
I get that New Zealand first is opposed to a
lot of trade deals, but it is becoming a bit
confusing and it feels like it's time to move on.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Now.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
This is a deal that is in the best justice
of New Zealand. It was very caffey negotiated. He both
sides knows exactly what they've committed to. We're glad it
in Parliament and we're going to put it in law
to have jobs and hir incomes.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Bailey's Real Estate on News Talks, there'd be.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Twenty four past one. Do you have any sympathy for
keep we who owe a lot of money on student loans,
who face arrest if they return to New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
This textures why you guys laughing at the idea that
education should be free at once? Was it can be again?
This guy has put in the effort to become a doctor.
He is doing good in the world. Why should he
have to pay to be helping people. Yeah, but I
think you're missing the point is he's not helping people
here in New Zealand. So the New Zealand taxpayer has
paid for his medical degree and have given him a

(13:35):
a interest free loan, and he is applying his trade,
I imagine, not for free in Australia. I imagine. I imagine
he is earning money, and surely enough money to have
paid back the student loan. Sure think on a doctor's salary,
we always we always hear how much people are getting
paid in Australia, right, and you only when you're overseas.

(13:56):
Overseas bros are only charged five point six percent interest
and that's after one hundred and eighty two days over there.
So all you want to do is pay off the
dead at five point six percent interests.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, the ID.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Contacted a multiple time and he didn't respond, right, So
is he doing good in the world. I don't know.
We don't even know what kind of doctor is. Maybe
he's a I don't know, a plastic surgeon.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, it might be an ecademic doctor.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
We don't want kind of doctor yet.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, but you're also Another thing that's interesting is he's
this person would probably be in their fifties. Yeah, because
they've had the debt for how long did you say? Twenty?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
They said at least or a couple of decades overseas, right, so.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
It takes quite a while to be a doctor, so
that they're either in their late forties or pushing fifty probably, Yeah,
so you can't. So how long have you been sitting
on that being a doctor over there? So two decades
of being a doctor getting paid and at no point
did you think that maybe you should pay back the
debt to your own country?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
How long can you claim that you were too naive?
And I'm sorry?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
And look, Vix brother Bob and these got this isn't
their real names. Vixed brother Bob ows three hundred and
ten thousand right and is in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
He got in.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
He got in? Did he he got in?

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
He is here with his brother Vic right anonymous names.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
We need to arrest bloody Bob.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
You gotta find Bob.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Bob with the three hundred and tier. We got Vick
with the one eighty fix head.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
His passport taken off him. Bob's, as far as we know,
he's still got his passport, but he's worried about getting
picked up on departure.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
So Bob's three ten. We've got to get Bob on departure.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's a lot of money. Three thing goes a long
long way.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
We've gotta get three hundred and ten thousand out of
Bob at least.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
All right, we'll trek down Bob. Behind Bob, Fine, Bob,
Operation Find Bob. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to called? Get a Aaron J n A Sellers.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
How are you very good?

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Thanks for calling your thoughts on this.

Speaker 9 (15:45):
Track down Bob. That's a that's a tagline I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's all we've got. We've got is Bob, but it's
not his name.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, he's tag find Bob.

Speaker 10 (15:55):
I was just thinking all this while I was waiting online, like.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
Even with regards to Bob and the other fellow and
things like that, and what they used to do in
the nineties, And here was a load of us that
in the early ninety one ninety two utilized our student
loans to buy our first homes. Because back in those
good old days, you could dunk twelve grand into your
bank account. You can't do that anymore. Obviously, I don't

(16:20):
think you can. But yeah, there's probably Bob and his
brother have built an enormous amount of wealth on the
back of their student loans. Anyway, that's not why I
was ringing. What I was ringing was I left and
when till I leave two thousand and no. Nineteen ninety nine.
I left, Sorry, my student loan at that time I

(16:41):
got down to nine thousand dollars and I was pretty
wrapped with that, but I left and I ignored it,
and I just completely you do monkey seat for you
ignore anything that's a responsibility when you're that age. I
got back one was forty one thousand, right, Yeah, when
I landed back in New Zealand after doing London, then

(17:04):
Sydney and then back to Auckland. By two thousand and
six and had got to forty one grand and I
started working in a roll and and the IOD rang
up and said, hey, that you've you've only put M
down as you as your tax brackety thing. You need
to put empty yourself and the US forty one thousand dollars.

(17:27):
And you know you you you know that you do,
and your heart thinks and you're disliked all right, can
we discuss this and sort of have a bit of
a negotiation together? And the Inland Revenue are humans, they're
great people. They will chat here. And they said, yeah,
why not, let's let's have a conversation about this. And

(17:49):
I said, well, here's here's the opportunity is like IO
forty one thousand, largely thirty grand of that is penalties
and fees and all the sort of bits and pieces
that I ignored. And I readily put my hand up
and say I ignored. But you know, how about we
got a deal and doing and going and doing and
throwing over a number of sort of weeks with a

(18:11):
number of different people in the I D. I settled
on twenty and because I came back from the UK
with some some cash, could afford it and paid it
and got out.

Speaker 7 (18:22):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Okay, So they were open to they're open to a
bit of negotiation in the io.

Speaker 9 (18:27):
D one hundred percent. They are pretty cool people.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
And you know, a.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
Kiwis are coming because that's what we do, and we
jump on a plane and we head overseas and you
know we just forget, No, we don't forget, we ignore because.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know, we're working in bars we're drinking a lot,
we're parting out, we're partying. We think we're immortal. We
never looked. We're not thinking about the future of that
tomorrow's problem, all those kind of young person things arin.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
Tomorrow's problem exactly right, you know. And and but yeah,
the conversation I had with the I D back, and
it was two thousand and seven or eight, and whenever
it was, was earliest professional and you literally can do
a deal. And so you know, okay, I ended up

(19:16):
I left with a nine grand bill and ended up
paying twenty so you know, the taxpayer, did you know,
end up with a little bit of a win. But
but yeah, they do negotiat and they do talk, and
they do treat you like a human.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
So Bob's three hundred and ten ID might go, well, look,
we've been charging this interest in these nine point six
percent penalty fees. Maybe we'll have some of the penalty fees.
And you know, you can get you you can get
your passport back if you if you give us one fifty,
sell your house in Australia and give us one fifty.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
Yeah, and this is one of the things that I
sort of said to the when I finished my negotiations
way back when to to the ID was, does does
the average student loan holder that space in Europe or
where if they are overseas actually understand that you guys
do do negotiations and took because you know, I just

(20:14):
thought it was I thought it was set in concrete
and I.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Think they'll get hold of you. But people will screw
that that letter up. They'll, you know, they'll they don't
want to look into it because they think if they
if they contact IRD, then IRD are in contact with
them and we'll come for them. I think that's what
happens right erin. I think people just hide from it.

Speaker 9 (20:36):
People are hiding from it, and I know, well I don't,
not personally, but you hear the stories of people literally
staying away from New Zealand because of a student loan
debt that they're really really bloody worried about.

Speaker 11 (20:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Absolutely, thanks for your call erin. I appreciate it. I
just had a thought, what kind of dot the eyes
and cross the t's doctor gets that far into debt, right,
so the IOD needs to ring his work and tell
them that vicars are more on and his brother Bob's
even worse. Check out everything he's been doing. Check out
every prescription he's been writing out. If he's a surgeon,

(21:14):
get him out of surgery. Don't let him near anyone's heart.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
You need to figure out this guy's competence as rock bottom.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Because this guy's he's a shamozzle of a human being.
Probably shouldn't be a doctor.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Oh one hundred and eighty to eighty is the number
to call. What do you say on this? Do you
have any sympathy for Vic? The doctor who owes eight
and one hundred and eighty thousand dollars ninety nine two
of tax sea lines coming up?

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Speaker 2 (22:57):
Thank you very much, Wendy. So we're talking about the
story of this doctor who's been practicing overseas for the
last couple of decades. He came to New Zealand to
look after his sick dare. The problem is he owes
one hundred and eighty thousand dollars an unpaid juneral life debt.
So he's been arrested and had his passport taken off him.
Do you have any sympathy for him and others in
his situation that say they can't come back home? I
one hundred and eighty ten eighty C number call the

(23:19):
six says.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
I take exception to the text comment earlier suggesting all
educations should be free and that people who returned to
New Zealand without repaying their student loans shouldn't face serious
consequences If we follow that logic, where end do we
simply make housing, healthcare, education, and every other financial hardship free.
Regardless of who pays. Someone always has to fund these services,

(23:39):
and it's often those who have worked hard, taken risks,
paid their taxes, and invested in their own training. Many
of us in the building trades and the other industries
paid our own way, often without access to university style
student loans. We accepted that responsibility because education and training
our investment in ourselves. I believe people who borrow money
should repay it. Yeah, it makes sense if someone deliberately
avoids repaying a student loan, there should be consequences. We

(24:01):
shouldn't weaken accountability because it's politically popular. A fear society
requires both support for those genuinely in need and personal
responsibility from those who have the means to meet their obligation.
There was a thing that we did, I'm not sure
exactly was, but we decided that the best thing for
the future of New Zealand is if more people go
to university. And so it didn't really matter what degrees

(24:22):
they were doing at university, because there was a point
in New Zealand history, like fifties, sixties, seventies, where not
a lot of people went to university. And then we
decided to become a knowledge based economy when he died,
everyone to go to university. But a lot of people
went to university and did stupid degrees like I did.

Speaker 10 (24:35):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And so even though I got a student loan and
paid it back or whatever, I didn't, you know, there's
still a huge amount of it was paid by the
tax player. So I've got a degree in philosophy and anthropology. Yeah,
what use is that to anyone? It's not even any
use to me.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I didn't feel like a choice when I left school.
It was university, you know, nobody ever said to me, Hey,
did you think about being a sparky or a plumber
or a build up.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
That's not because your dad's a sparking. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
He really didn't want me to be a sparky, he said, boys,
I want you to use your brain rather.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Because I've seen you helping out that thing you did
to the dry wall the time when.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You had to chuck the spanner. Yeah, I think you're
being on there mate.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Yeah. So the idea that you know university is just
good because it's a higher forum education, It's just not true,
especially as this Texas says, it's been paid for by
people that are taking risks outside of the university system. Yeah,
and paying huge amounts of tax just for idiots like
me to get anthropology degrees.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Getto Mark.

Speaker 13 (25:30):
Yeah, goody, guys. A hilarious conversation. I already agree with
a lot of what your previous call of suggested. But
my case yet, dunedin otago two years and wracked up
I think about nine, not ten, you know, dropped out,
you know, as that often sometimes happens, changed changed tax
ten years later when over nine years later, moved over

(25:52):
to Australia and then sort of forgot about it, soort
of thought, oh, yes, we has found a job out
square in a career pathway that's led me on a
different path entirely, but nothing associated with what I was
studying at the time. All the while overseas, of course,
you have those of the games to make payments. At
the time, I think they were about five hundred dollars
annually or something like that, just to sort of keep

(26:14):
in touch, keep in touch, keep in touch. I was
abroad for ten years, just on ten actually, and I
think in the final three I just sort of gave
the old DJAF about the whole thing, albeit occasionally returning
back and forth to see family and in NZ. I'm
an INZ now obviously, but I'll tell you what I

(26:35):
was sort of white knuckling on the airplane every time
I was coming in and also waiting at Hookland departures
to get out. But an agreement with your previous caller,
the idea are actually wayman good with sort of understanding
various things and sort of putting you on a bit
of a bit of a plan or something like that.

(26:57):
I'm not one to walk away from deatter obligations. Some
people certainly are, and I now live in in z
and once I came back, I was you know, when
you start earning with the you know, paying taxes, that
automatically comes out. But they were very understanding of my situation,
especially when I came back and I entered a position

(27:17):
it was just post COVID where sort of had this
now I think close to twenty five twenty five thousand,
I went something like that. They sort of based on
the mandatory what otherwise would be deductions of your earnings.
I negotiated that because I didn't enter a position that
was very highly paying and even though that's proportionate to

(27:39):
what you're earning, I negotiated with them and they were
really cool about it. And since I've completely paid it
all off in the last six years five yeah, on
just on five and a half years. But that being said,
you know, there's a lot of doubt and people don't
like the ID because they are the idea et cetera,
et cetera. But they're actually a really decent, decent bunch

(28:03):
to actually work with. If you just put your cards
on the table, tell them what's a lot, and and
you to work with them, knowing your responsibility. You want
to live in New Zealand. Yep, you borrowed some money
ages ago. Yep, you're wrecked up debt. You want to
you want to enjoy what's what New Zealand has to offer?
Work with me, please, I on work with you, and
they're flaming good.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
So how do you feel how to feel when you
when you laid all your cards on the table, because
obviously you see your white knuckling it when you came
in and out. So what was what did that feel
like when you just go, this is my situation, let's
sort it out. Did it? I imagine that would have
been a relief. It made your life better one.

Speaker 13 (28:42):
Hundred percent for those couple of years where I was
missing those payments when I was based in Australia and
coming back, I think, you know, am I going to
because I heard stories? You know, people get apprehended, you know,
not like the the not I'm only a fraction of
what the amount of what's the name is? That's that's
part of the new story today and his brother or whatever.
But being said, now that being said, like, yeah, it was,

(29:06):
it was a complete relief when you kind of get
the whole Okay, you understand, you're here you're talking to us,
you're being transparent. If we want to work with you,
you know you're a text payer. We need you like
we need five million of you. So you know, it
was cool. It was absolutely cool the idea say, and
you just just you're asking the question, you know, what's
your sympathy of those people that have made the news

(29:26):
as of today that you're running with. No, I've got
no sympathy at all. How about you pick up the phone, mate,
how about you pick up the phone negotiate and the
fact that you've been in custody for three days, that's
on you.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, good on your Mark, Thank you for your call.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I'm going to save the IID money as well. Right,
clearly you know Mark was a big load off his
shoulders and the right thing to do, of course, But
for Ird's perfective, you've got to say, they don't want
to chase people that cost money to try and investigate
and chase people and stop them at the border. You
go to them even if you own money. Of course
they're going to treat you far better because you've saved
them time and effort in money.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Right, what was that you were reading me out of
text before? In the break tyler about an accountant.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Oh right, yes, so the accountant came through and where
was it here? It is, okaday, guys, I'm an accountant.
I had a client who owed three hundred one thousand
dollars to the ID on the student loan. After two
phone calls, managed to wipe one hundred and thirty thousand
dollars off that bill. Yeah right, So two phone calls
the accountant managed to negotiate one hundred and thirty thousand

(30:21):
dollars off a three hundred thousand dollars bill.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
What if he made another two phone calls.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That it's done?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Your job done. It's ninety thousand off per phone call,
five phone calls zero and might be a little bit
more complicated than that.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah. Hey, good teas to here, because you're talking about
your degree before. So, Matt, your degree was not a waste.
It enabled you to write a very good book anchored
and philosophy I often see how to shape their approach.
You've taken your talk show to cheers from Litz.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
That's a good point, thanks, Liz. Yeah, but what I
would say about so I wrote my book of life
was punishing. There's a lot of philosophy in it. But
during my philosophy the Greeks, I did philosophy and anthropology.
At no point did any of the philosophy that they
ever taught me at university have any bearing on reality.
Whereas this purely semantics kind of philosophy, philosophy state rather

(31:07):
than what philosop if he should be a philosophy for life.
Any point in starting philosophy is so you can have
the answers to live a good life. Right yeah, And
I'm not sure if it's the same case now. But
when I did philosophy at university, it was was Fraga
says this. Russell says that it was the Morning Star Venus.
It was all this rubbish as opposed to say stoic philosophy,

(31:28):
which actually teaches you how to live a good life.
If you see what I'm saying, I do, yeah, yeah, yeah,
But thank you for your text, Liz.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Keep them coming through. On nine two nine two. It
is a quarter to two.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Beg very surely, where are you going your home of
afternoon talk?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Matt he then Taylor Adams afternoons call eight hundred eighty
ten eighty us talk.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Said, be afternoon to you. It is thirteen to two
quick text here get a guys. Let's be clear. These
people don't owe iid they owe the tax payers. Idea
is simply public servants. They need to front up and
pay what they owe. Thank you very much for that text.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Hi guys, Matt, your degree is not wasted. The world
country also needs think as historians, writers, et cetera. And
maybe you could up your thoughts a bit sometimes cheers.
But the interesting thing about that is I wonder about
you can learn so much now. Knowledge used to be
heading away in universities, but there's so many great YouTube
channels out there. If you want to learn everything you

(32:23):
need to know about history, read a few books, watch YouTube,
save the text, post of money.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Any skill you can think of. Yeah, Steve, you've got
a couple of minutes, my friend, But wats your story?

Speaker 14 (32:33):
Well, go for.

Speaker 15 (32:34):
Two daughters, one to finished a pharmacy degree, she goes overseas.
She always makes sure she pays him, paying advance, so
you're not paying interest. He's nearly paid her sixty seventy
thousand dollars loan off, worked hard, And I just got
to me when I hear people saying or let them off, Well,
if that's the case, my daughter should be paid all

(32:56):
her money back. But she gave my older daughter, she
bailed out of her degree. She's a mom now with
two beautiful kids, and she's still paying her loan off overseas,
had to pay interest, and she's still beavering away on it.
And he'll probably pay it off for a number of years.

(33:16):
And she's not better or twisted about it. So it
gets me when I hear these quote type people saying, oh,
I'll let them away with it. I mean, it's about
being a decent citizen.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
And we're all quick to.

Speaker 15 (33:27):
Blame politicians for abusing the system and everyone else, but
let's look at our own camp. This is money you
owe and there's no way around it. And the students know.
And if he character he's ignored, he's just ignored it
hoping he can get away with it. And they come
back with the sympathy boat. Sorry to hear, dad, but

(33:50):
that's a distractor. And the IID will do good deals
for the young ones, and they're a good output to
deal with. I recently got some money back off them.
They sent me a let them said, oh you've been
over taxed. He here's some money. I reckon. They're great,
so you know some, but you't all a and think

(34:10):
about all your honest kids.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah exactly. I mean that's the thing, the honest kids.
And also, you know, coming back because your father's sick,
but you know you're a doctor. You're making good money.
You only had to pay the interest of five point
six percent interest. A lot of this one hundred and
eighty thousand dollars is probably penalties. Right, So if you've
just been paying it off and the way he should have,
then he would could be able to come back and
forth within the country to visit his parents regularly.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Right, Yeah. Yeah, And no one's to blame for that but.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Him, Yeah, exactly. One of the most important things to
gain from university, says this TEXA is, if not a
productive degree, his ability to critically analyze and form evidence
based opinions. In recent years, this has been lacking significance,
Like significantly. One only has to look at social media
comments to understand how dire or lack of this ability
can be. Yeah, but I'm not sure if you're necessarily
getting that at university anymore.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
No, it's changed a lot, hasn't it. It used to be
places for free ideas, but I don't think that's existed
for some time.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
It used to be all about critical thinking the humanities
at universities. Now I don't know if that's as true
as it.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Pretty woke, all right. It is nine minutes two two,
nine to ninety two is the text back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams
afternoons news talks.

Speaker 16 (35:23):
Evy.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
News talks.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
There be.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
It is seven to two couple of texts here getay, guys.
It's a tough time when your family is struggling or sick,
no doubt. However, as a matter of a matter of principle,
to name one reason on which to argue on doctors
money and having worked for decades overseas was seemingly no
effort to repay what has provided employment as this individual. Honest,
I know many people, including my own kids, who have

(35:46):
repaid their loans in full, even though they've traveled and
lived overseas, and this one, I'm so pleased that the
government is doing this. When I was a Tersory student
back in two thousand and one, people in my class
were openly saying they intended to move overseas and never
pay it back. As someone who did pay off their loan,
this makes me happy seeing these people punished. That's from Brett.

(36:08):
And one more guys, this doctor is a thief. You
knew exactly what was happening. It had no intention of paying.
When iod have got his money, they should inform the
government strip his New Zealand citizenship and tell him to
beep off to Ossie. We don't want to.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It's like a massive evil dine and dash this whole situation,
isn't it. If if you go to university and you
get an interest free student loan to pay for it,
you have to remember you aren't paying for all of it.
Seventy five to eighty percent of your fees are covered
completely by the taxpayer. So then after that very generous
situation with the student free, with the interest free loan

(36:44):
for twenty five percent and the seventy five percent, pay
tax in your head overseas, make money, pay tax over
there in Ossie, and then don't stop and think that
maybe you owe the country that trained you and gave
you everything in your career. If you don't think that,
maybe you should do something about that just morally, then
you're a bad person. You're a thief, and you deserve

(37:05):
to be arrested like all thieves that that bolt. So
just suck it up up and stop looking for sympathy. Also,
if you're a doctor, it seems likely if you are
this loose footloose and fancy free with important things, then
you're probably a rubbish doctor. So I say, hashtag find
Bob he owes three hundred and ten ks. They grabbed
Vic but his brother Bobos three ten. I know that's

(37:27):
not their real names, but.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Find him Yep. I think that's a campaign most people
can get behind. Hashtag find Bob not his real name.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
The biggest dirtiest dining dashes in the country.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah, great discussion. Hey, thank you very much to everyone
who gave us a buzz and had a chat, and
also for your text as well. Coming up after two o'clock.
The idea of the short king that is a short
man has taken off online in recent years, celebrating confidence
shorter fellers and pushing back against hype based stereotypes. But
is it really true? We've got some facts and figures
for you that may or may not dispel that myth.

(38:01):
But we want to hear from you. Have you dated
or married a fellow shorter than yourself? And do you
really care?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
It seems that women are women were men employing some
harrific horrific what would you call it? Bias against short men?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yep, this is gonna be a fun chat. One hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number? New Sport and
weather fast approaching. Great to have you company on this
Friday afternoon. You're listening to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams
back in a few minutes.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams after News
Talk said they.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
A very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show.
It is six pass two. So we want to have
chats about short men a so called short king as
the term on the internet has got a lot of
traction in recent years. So that celebrates confident shorter men
and pushes back against the hype based stereotypes that have
been around for some time. So the term took off

(39:31):
after a comedian defended shorter male celebrities like Bruno Mars
and Tom Holland. Since then it's become a popular online
label with TikTok trends, brand references, and Short King Appreciation Day,
he all celebrating shorter men. But despite all of that
social media hype, real world dating patterns haven't actually changed
that much. New data shows taller mens still have a

(39:52):
clear advantage in relationships, earnings, and even happiness. Where dating
apps seemingly heavily favoring men over six foot, about two
thirds of couples have the man five to twenty centimeters
taller than the woman, while it appears only three percent
feature a taller lady in that relationship.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
Wow, interesting, Are you with the man who is shorter
than you? That's what we want to hear. You don't
see it that much, are you? Do you? Also? Are
you with the woman who is taller than you? I've
got a mate whose missus is taller than him. Right,
she's she's six two.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Okay, that's tall, and he's very.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Probably he's probably six two as well, so maybe they're equal.
But she looks much taller yere, right, because I don't know,
she just does it, looks taller. She's a lot slimmer
than he is.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Okay, yeah, hear enough? That helps?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
So if you are a female and if you're being honest,
is put off by shorter men, Why you know, we'd
love to hear from you. One hundred and eighty ten
eighty This Texas says, give us a ring, Texter, because
we great to talk to you, because you're exactly the
type of person. Yuck, No, I swope left on anyone
under any man under five eleven. If you're a man,

(41:04):
you should be at least pushing six foot. I would
never date a short man, says this text.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Okay, that's honest.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
So should a man be pushing six foot?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I wand one hundred eighty ten eighty short fellows, we
want to hear from you as well. Have you noticed
an impact?

Speaker 3 (41:19):
The stats are terrible for men on dating apps that
are under six foot.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
So what do you need to make up for a
couple of inches missing? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (41:29):
I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
of calls. So this is part of why this blew up,
because the trend seemed to indicate that shorter men, yes,
they didn't have the height advantage, but by and large
they were more confident in daily life. So is that
really true? Give us a call I watee hundred and
eighty ten eighty. If you've dated or married a man
shorter than you, what was it that you got it
over the line?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
What is stupid about that is six foot is completely
arbitrary old school measure because we don't use feet and
inches anymore. Yeah, so people have decided that six foot
is the height just because it was a round number.
There was five foot and there was six foot, so
you had to get over six foot. It's just the number, right, Yeah,
what does it matter if you what is that one
hundred and eighty three recent to me?

Speaker 2 (42:09):
I believe it is. Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Shouldn't there be one hundred and ninety or one hundred
and eighty centimeters? Just if you you know the way
we look at things. You know in cricket, a century
is better than ninety nine. So the only reason why
six foot is the number you want to get past
as historically that was a round number in the old
school way of measuring people American metrics. So let's at

(42:32):
least pull the height you have to reach down to
one eighty and then I'm in with my six foot four?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Can I just say, right now, mate, screw you? Because
that leaves me out by a centimeter? Oh eight hundred
eighty one, not one seventy nine, Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. What do you say on this? Is it
true that woman don't like shorter men? And if you're
a short fowler, have you struggled when it comes to
finding a woman or a partner in your life? Tell us, Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

Speaker 5 (42:57):
This?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
Texas says short minut agro short man syndrome. This is
angry tall men.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
There's a couple on this on this radio station I
can think of.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Oh, there is an angry short man at the station.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Isn't there no names? No names? Right at his bus?
To picking the.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Moment your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty used talk.

Speaker 17 (43:21):
Said be.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Thirteen past two. So, despite the short king phenomenon online,
it appears, according to research that woman by and large
still don't want to date or marry men shorter than themselves.
So if that's true in your life, if you have
married a shorter man, oh e one hundred and eighty
ten eighties number this.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Stick says, oh, boohoo, poor men being swipe left on
for being short? What about fat woman? Fat woman don't
get a looking But I guess if you're you don't
have to remain it's harder to get taller. That's easier.
And I know this struggles with weight loss, but it's
definitely easier to lose weight than it is to gain height.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Yeah, I don't know if there's many options for you
see a surgical option that you can extend your height.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Raisors some people, and some people wear rises. I knew
this quite famous Zealand broadcaster, and I'd spend quite a
bit of time with him.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
And then I went round to his house because I
was picking something up and he answered the door and
he didn't have his boots on, and I opened the
door and I looked over his head. I was like, wow,
so you've been what you mate, You've been juicing your
id all along. The stick says, I don't care the
height of a man, it's the height of his bank balance.
Four and a half a million a year. Great, a

(44:33):
lot better than six foot and sixty k by a
long way. What if the personality? What about the personality?

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, he's funny yeah, James, now your mates, I'm.

Speaker 14 (44:44):
I'm alright, yeah, no money, no, honey, you can't get
you can you can get shin implants. I believe there's
a generation of Japanese doing that.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Wow, I mean that sounds incredibly just just I don't
know what. That just sounds incredibly painful for some reason,
shinn and plants. But then wouldn't you have wouldn't wouldn't
be awake for it? Right, that's true, but even the
the rehabilitation, But wouldn't you then just have ridiculously long legs?
You'd you'd walk around looking like a frog, like Stuart

(45:16):
Broad the cricketer.

Speaker 14 (45:20):
But so the hip thing I never really knew because
it never bothered me. But definitely on the shorter side,
I think it's like five seven something five A. I
don't know, I don't really care. But each successive generation
has been taller than than than its predecessor. If you
go back to like World War One, the average height
was like five ft three or five foot four.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
When you go when you go to Europe and you
check out those suit of armors, they're tiny, they look
they look like they're for for primary school kids. These
these the nights back in the day, James.

Speaker 14 (45:50):
Yeah, exactly. And and the sixth the sixth footer thing
that used to be the minimum height requirement to into
the police force. That's right back in six footer. You're
you're a you're a big, big, big unit, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah. Yeah, Well that's how long can they keep going?
Because I just James, how long can that keep going?
Because I see my sons and their friends and they're
all giants. They're all so tall. I mean, we can't
just keep getting taller for river.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
You don't have to redesign the world. I mean.

Speaker 14 (46:20):
We do, maybe we do, but I'll leave you at
this thought. At the end of the day, with the
high discrepancy between genders when it comes to dating, the
only thing you really have to worry about is clutch alignment.
And that's no particular hurdle pun intended. It can be
handled in many different ways, right.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Okay, we'll just ponder that one, James.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And that's the first time I've heard that phrase before.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Well, I don't like, how do I put this? You're
not always standing up? Yep, that's how it.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Works, right, yeah, yeah, faar point and fair point. I
hear what you're saying there.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I think that solved.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Is the ticks.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
But eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, if you're dating
a fella shorter than you, do you care? And if
you are a shorter fella, has it ever impacted your
life when it comes to romance? Tell us we'll get
to a few of those texts coming through thick and fast.
Oh my god, there's some.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Good he's there was the broadcast to Jason Hoyt. No,
it wasn't Jason Hoyt. But what he's I don't know
if you've seen, if anyone knows Jason Hoyt from the
herdeche Big Show. The new shoes he's just bought. They're criminal.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
We need to get them up here.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
He's got these horrific cream colored boots that he's wearing. Now.
Someone needs to tell.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Him massive heel on them at his seventeen pass too.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News talk zby.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Nineteen past too. So we're talking about short men in
the world. There's new research that seems to indicate woman
have a massive issue with dating someone's short tulet. That's sorry,
shorter than themselves. If that's you, oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
See, I'm magnanimous because I don't mind dating someone shorter
than me at all.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Good good on you mate.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
In fact, my partner, Tracy, she's a lot shorter than me.
She is to the point when we got this new
pantry put in the kitchen recently, we also had to
get a little little stuff so she can get to
there's that sits in the kitchen, so she can get
to the top shelves. Tracy Stall, Yeah, Lott, Tracy Store.

Speaker 18 (48:15):
It's nice for her.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
I've just texted her and asked her tall she has.
I've got no idea anyway.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty if you Store.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Course, it's the other way around that we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yes, nineteen nine two is the text. But Lynette's what
do you reckon?

Speaker 19 (48:28):
Well, I've dazed my fair share of short men being
a taller, taller person, and my opinion is the bulk
of the ones that I were with were highly insecure
about me being taller. Really, yeah, what what sort of spark?
I have this very vivid memory of walking down the

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street with this marginally shorter bloke than me, And he
saw a friend coming the other way and he and
he asked if I would walk on the other side
of him, because the pavement was lower there and he
would look taller. And I just turned around and walked
the other bay.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
Wow, he's thinking that through.

Speaker 6 (49:07):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (49:08):
Yeah, well, yeah, it's and you know, and the shorter
side of the pavement happened to be in the gutter,
so there was no there's no way that this statuesque
blond was going to be walking in the gun for
any boke.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
So how tall are you if you don't mind me asking, Lynette.

Speaker 19 (49:25):
Well, well, as I said to your offsider in the
in the office part there, I said, I'm rapidly shrinking.
I married a bloke who was who was exactly the
same height as me, and there's the sort of a
ten year difference between us. He has now shrunk considerably
shorter than I am. And we have no issue with
it at all, of course, because you know, it's fifty

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five years on. We're going strong.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
And so have you got the idea what you were
at the top of your curve linette before you started drinking?

Speaker 19 (49:57):
Yeah, I was five eleven, yep, yeah, And and was
eligible for the police force and was accepted into the
police force here.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Right, So was that back when six foot? Was it
six foot for men.

Speaker 20 (50:09):
And no men?

Speaker 19 (50:11):
That men had to be five to ten? I think
it was women had to be five nine.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
Okay, Well, back in the day, police officers had those hats,
you know, the what do you call those hats, the
bobby hats, helmets, Yeah, helmets, helmut Yeah, the big pointy
helmets that gave you another you know, half foot at
least in height. We wore them, yeah, handy it cricket matches.
When someone was streaking, they put them over the I

(50:36):
was actually talking to a police officer who's a friend
of a friend's dad. Yes, and he said he back
in the day when he was a police officer, he
used to love those. He called it a tit hat, right,
he loved he loved it in a fight because he
said that, you know, you could take it off and
you put it over your arm and then you could
punch people with the with the hat. It would do
some damage because they had the knob on the end
of it.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you
are married or dating a guy, shorter than you, king
to hear your story and whether it really matters. And
when it comes to the old social media sites, you know,
do you ask that the guy puts the heights on
their profile and that seems to be a thing, you.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Know, back to if you don't put your height on
your profile, then you're hiding something, right. Well, I don't know,
is that true? One hundred eighty ten eighty. I would
never ever date a short guy, never, says Francis. Okay, well,
well that's rough. What if the short guy was the
greatest person in the entire world, the funniest person, Yeah,
the most talented person, the person that was going to

(51:33):
make your life just easier and better and more fulfilling.
But the one thing that he's missing is the requisite height.
That feels like you're you're you're losing a lot. Yeah,
just around a metric that he has nothing to say.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
In Discrimination two is the text keep them coming through.
But we'll have a chat to Jill, Jill, what's your
thoughts on this?

Speaker 21 (51:59):
Good?

Speaker 16 (51:59):
Ears Jim, Then, guys, how are you both?

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Very good? Thanks for calling Jill.

Speaker 16 (52:05):
This is not to do with me, but to do
with my parents. Now, my mom and my dad met
it at her engagement party to another man. Well he
was an all naval officer. But dad was a five
foot four army man and my mother was five nine.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
That's good a difference.

Speaker 16 (52:31):
But they married because he went round the next day
and proposed to her.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Whose whose engagement party was?

Speaker 16 (52:38):
Again, Jilt, Sorry, my mother's engagement party to a naval officer.

Speaker 20 (52:43):
Oh wow, and you stay this short.

Speaker 16 (52:47):
Army man went round and did marry me? And she did?

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Now what did he have?

Speaker 3 (52:54):
What did he have that the naval officer didn't have? Jill?

Speaker 16 (52:57):
His build such a strong build that made up for
any shortness he had. And I take after him and
I'm so proud of that for all their lives.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
And she did shrink in the yes, did he did?

Speaker 20 (53:19):
He?

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Was he ever self conscious about it at all?

Speaker 17 (53:21):
Jill?

Speaker 20 (53:23):
Hell? No, No.

Speaker 16 (53:24):
He was a boxer right in the Second World well,
on the ships going out to the Second World War,
and won all his fights. I mean, he was an
extremely strong man and a hard worker. No, I don't
think is high had anything to do with any issues

(53:46):
that he might have had about himself.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Well, he's probably he's got some other assets going on,
clearly now interesting that one. That one isn't it? Just
trying to think about it well, because because because the
thing that's with with with with your partner, right, if
she's the same height as you, yes, or slightly taller,
then she's going to have on a pair of heels
and then increase her heart quite drastically.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Then you're screwed any time you go out. Yeah, these
people looking. Why there's people looking.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Why I'm not here? So you're you're a healthy five
to four, you're why, You've got a lot of other
assets going on. You've got a lot to offer. He's
a good boxer, yep, five four, a lot going on
down there, and your partner's five nine. Then you go
out for dinner and what she what she does? She
she adds another half foot with her heels.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Yeah, that's right. How do you take family photos?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
It's an evolutionary thing, guys, is Matthew, and it makes
sense from in an eight point of view. Short guys
seem to do alright. If you look at all the
short sportsmen and celebrities with their hot wives, I think
short guys probably have to try harder, and maybe there's
just a few chicks who are off limits. Because they
want the tall guys. There's a little unusual to see
couples where the dude is shorter, but different strokes for

(55:02):
different folks. Some analysis.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Yeah, good text there, keep them coming through. On nine
two ninety two.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
It's not that women dislike short men as such. They
are just hardwired through biological evolution to prefer tall, strong
men as viable partners, primarily primarily for protection.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Is that true, woman? Is that how you see it
at eight hundred eighty.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
That's why Jill's dad it was a little boxing, little unit,
little scrapper. He was still able to protect his He
was still giving off good protection vibes.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, what do you say to Richard's theory? What do
you say to that? Nineteen ninet two is the text number.
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Speaker 2 (56:57):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
Wendy.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
It is twenty nine to three and we're talking about
shorter men out there in society. So there's been a
big rise of the viral short kings short confident men
doing well in life, but data would suggest that's not
really true. So is their discrimination when it comes to
shorter men in society.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Great text here, Thanks lads for asking the hard questions
and covering the tough topics that the mainstream media avoids.
Go appreciate that what we do. The text continues, can
you take a poll with your callers? Textas if one
one hundred and seventy eight centimeters is the tall, short,
or just right category? See this is further to my
point that six foot is an arbitrary size from an

(57:36):
ancient form of measurement, which is feet and inches. Yes,
so it needs to be recalibrated around centimeters. And so
I believe six foot is one one hundred and eighty
three yep correct roughly yep. So shouldn't we just recalibrate
tall or the idea of six foot to one eighty centimeters?

(57:56):
We're losing a couple of centimeters there, and that'll help
me get across the line.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Why couldn't we just stick to one seventy eight? You know,
I know what you're talking about about arbitrary numbers. But
one SENTI far Can I just say too? One seventy
eight to me is just right, right in the sweet spot,
right in the sweet spot.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Nothing will make up for the short man. I'm afraid.
Doesn't matter how good looking he is, how wealthy is,
how smart he is, or how kind he is. If
he's shorter than me, I'm going to feel like I
need to protect him. And then a little dude's spooning me.
I shiver at the force.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Oh great text.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Do you know they've got they've done a survey and
that if the man becomes the small spoon, a relationship's
got about three months ago.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I can see that. Just it's not right. It's not
right being the small spoon. Yeah, you've got to be
the It's.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Kind of like you've been comforted. If if your partner's
behind you spooning you, it's like you've broken something, like
you're injured or something.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
If you want to talk about your spoon, Operation eight
in number Jane, how are you?

Speaker 22 (58:59):
Oh ah, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
How good, nice to chat with you. So you are
six to one? Is that right?

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Yeah? I am yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Yeah, right, So that's really shrink.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
The years go on, and my husband was six foot
two two.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Right, Okay, have you ever did anyone shorter than you?

Speaker 5 (59:19):
No? No, I was five foot eight when I was eleven.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Wow, did you play need?

Speaker 5 (59:26):
I did? Yeah, certainly. I dated guys that I outgrew.
I ended it. I just ended the relationship, which is
really sad because they were so lovely. And my very
first boyfriend, I'm back in touch with him. I'm sixty
eight now, but I'm back in touch with him, and

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he's lovely and he's got a lovely family.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Had a chance.

Speaker 5 (59:54):
No, we didn't, unfortunately. Yeah, we've got two budgets boys
who carried on with the height. Our eldest six foot
nine and our youngest six foot seven.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
There's some big boys. Wow, one gets with a six
foot two and you get a six foot nine out
of it. That's interesting to me. So, yeah, it doesn't
always work out like that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
But no, no, not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
But being six foot nine has got its challenges. You know,
everyone goes they want to be tall, but you know,
economy flying is a lot harder if you're six foot nine.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
Absolutely, and actually he lives in.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
America now, right, with things a bigger which is great.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
For him because he can buy clothes in regular shops.
He doesn't have to go to the tall man shot
down on Pitt Street, and which he did when he
was here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
What kind of herata ju are Vikings in the day? Yeah,
see that's all right. That's where the tallest people are from,
right up northern Europe for some reason.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, My dad was from Newcastle in the UK.
But yeah, his yeah, his ancestors were Vikings, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
So did you What did you end up breaking up
with the shorter guys? Was it the insecurity or you
just saw this wasn't gonna work long term?

Speaker 5 (01:01:15):
I just I couldn't bear walking past windows and seeing
me tower above them. I hated it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean a lot of teas
agree with it. It turns out. And the daughter would
bake you up as well, Jane.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
As you as your sex foot nine are playing basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
He did.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
He's a bit old enough, so they're both in the thirties.
But yeah, yeah, they both played basketball. Both got injured,
you know. Well that's what stopped the younger one playing basketball,
was a really bad ankle injury. Yeah, they're their wives.
The youngest one's got a little boy and their wives
are just normal size.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
What's normal size?

Speaker 5 (01:01:59):
Well, five foot six, yeah, the younger The younger one's
wife is five foot six. The older one, his wife's
five foot five and she's expecting a baby due next
month and they've said it's in the ninety seventh percentile.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
She'll be giving him the stinky during the birthing process.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Worries it's going to be a journey.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Thanks for your cool, Jane, appreciate good luck with that.
So that people from the Netherlands, on the average the toilest,
the tallest in the world, right, and that's on average.
The male height in the Netherlands is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
One eight three Oh, congratulations to them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
So basically around six foot Yeah. Montenegro is up there
as well. Bosnia, Estonia and Denmark are of the tallest
tallest nationalities.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
New Zealand's not in the mix.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
No, we're way down there, makes sense, pathetic short asses, you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Come on, New Zealand, do better. Humiliating one hundred eighty
ten eighty is number to call if you have married
or dated a shorter man. Love to hear from you,
or if you're in the other camp and you'd never
do that where Ken dever chet as well. Nine to
nine two is the text. It is twenty three to.

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Three the issues that affect you and if it have
fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talk zed be us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Talks ed be. So we're talking about shorter men in society.
If you're a woman who has dated or married a
shorter guy, keen to hear why on oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
The sixth is what about short men not wanting to
be with taller woman? Yeah, that's that's the question we're
asking as well. Yeah, absolutely, were absolutely asking that question.
If you're a shorter fella, Yeah, come on through and
tell us how was life? Have you been too scared
to be with the taller woman? This text says I
am five two inches and my wife is five eight
You had a problem after forty seven years except with
the mother in law. Oh, the mother in law had

(01:03:51):
a problem.

Speaker 5 (01:03:51):
With that, right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
What happened with the mother in law? I need to
hear more on that texts nine two nine to If
you want to send through a few.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
More, well, here it's from Cliff further to that person
Texas point. I dated a tall lady when I was young.
I'm average height. She didn't mind at all. I didn't
like it one bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
You go, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty set
number to call, get a Jeanine. Hi, how are you
very good? Nice to chat? So what's your thoughts?

Speaker 23 (01:04:18):
My thoughts, Well, I've come from a shortened liner, just
both because my father was a jockey and my mother
was taller than him. So it was never unusual for
us as children to watch them dancing around a dance
floor with their mate as soon as they're all jockeys
in their wife. So there'd be quite a few jockeys

(01:04:38):
out there that you probably should need to talk to,
because there's a beautiful looking wives out there.

Speaker 24 (01:04:44):
I was.

Speaker 23 (01:04:45):
I was given my father's hype. I'm only ti, I thought,
so to find a shorter man would be quite quite
a challenge for me, and I'm lucky enough set I've
got myself a six pop one. But it's very interesting
that people would judge people just based on their their
height for a relationship, because there's a lot of spunky

(01:05:09):
and old shorter man out there that would go, yeah, hey, so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Did your dad have it? Because you know, to be
a jockey, year I not only have to be, you know,
reasonably short, but you have to try and keep your
weight down. Did he have much of a regime for
keeping thin?

Speaker 23 (01:05:25):
Oh, yes, he certainly does. He's just about to turn
ninety actually, And my father was quite a successful jockey
in the day. He won the nineteen sixty Auklne Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Wow, and.

Speaker 23 (01:05:37):
The house that they had and South Auckland's had a
what they call a sweat box out to the back
of the garage, so that was what he used to
do to keep his weight down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
And on days.

Speaker 23 (01:05:51):
Will put a will he had on and sweat it out.

Speaker 25 (01:05:54):
Yeah, yeah, not so much these days.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Did the unsuccessful jockeys door right in the lady department,
Jeanine or just your old man who was clearly a winner.

Speaker 23 (01:06:05):
My mother passed away a few years ago, but the
ladies loved him back then, and I'm sure he loved
the ladies too, despite my mother's Yeah, they went on
to have four children and sixty five years of marriage
before mom passed away. That, yeah, he was a very
successful jockey and had a hue little following said by
the ladies.

Speaker 6 (01:06:24):
I'm sure you groupies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
He won the Auckland carp and he won your mum's heart.
That's how we'd he beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Yeah, thanks for you, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
I mean, the thing about a jockey is that they
their job is quite impressive, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Athletic, well yeah, and brave, yeah, very brave. Yeah, if
you're dating a jockey or you're married a jockey. Oh,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to
call a couple of techs coming through on nine to
nine two. But let's go to Dave mate, how are
you mate?

Speaker 25 (01:06:56):
Now?

Speaker 14 (01:06:56):
Speaking to the jockeys, you guys, you guys.

Speaker 10 (01:06:58):
Made a little comment there about being a little spot.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
And I just want to say, you guys got to try.

Speaker 22 (01:07:04):
It's very cozy, it's very cuddly.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
You know, you've got your little method behind you know.

Speaker 19 (01:07:09):
Yeah, obviously obviously you do it as well, but you know,
sharing love will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I've given it a will, you know, yeah, I mean
enjoyment you never.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Never, I've never I've never been the little spoon never.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Wow, can we get Tracey.

Speaker 10 (01:07:26):
I'm myself, I'm a five to four man, so it
kind of works well for me.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
You know, how big how towards your partner, Dave oh
six six four, Oh, okay, right, okay.

Speaker 15 (01:07:37):
That's quite the Well, she's she's Norwegian.

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
That's the thing, isn't Itians?

Speaker 10 (01:07:44):
Those give it you know, anyone out there? Little spoons
are right?

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Okay, all right, Dave for the little spoons. That was
the study I was talking out about before that if
the man ends up in the little spoon position and
then the relationship has got about three months, only one,
you know, one that is probably statistically skewed by the
fact that someone might be getting going through something rough

(01:08:11):
and they're like in the fetal position and your missus
is coming through to comfort you. So it might not
be the spoon position, you know how statistics get skewed
by different things. Yes, so it's more that you're standing
there shaking in the you know, lying, they're shaking in
the fetal position over something, and she's coming into comfort you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
That's an image of my head right now. Oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighties number to call Finn. How
are you man today?

Speaker 20 (01:08:35):
I'm a fund from christ Church.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
Mate.

Speaker 20 (01:08:37):
You will represent the small short men in New Zealand.
Day good yeah, mate, And I haven't had too much
trouble getting a date, right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
So if you don't mind me telling me, if you
don't mind telling me, Finn, what sort of height are
you running for?

Speaker 20 (01:08:51):
One?

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Yeah, yep, yep, all that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
And when we like, did you what what? What age?
Did you reach five foot one?

Speaker 20 (01:09:01):
It was a pretty slow process. I think mould have
been about the seventeen eighteen, you know. Yeah, all my
peers have grown up round me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
was still hanging out with some of the younger dudes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
You'd have been stokes when you got over five foot though.
That would have been a nice, a nice day.

Speaker 20 (01:09:18):
Oh it was a yeah, and it was a freaking
good one. But the girls have been alright with me,
you know, the patron and kind and it just bought
them a nice, nice meal. And you know, and you've
got alcohol. You've always got a drink or something like that. Fun, yeah, mate,
And it's all about having fun, isn't it. You know,

(01:09:39):
you've got to have fun with them, make them laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
Yeah, like a one person that's a good time and
a good dude. And you know, it's buying the drinks
a little bitter than a six foot one MOPy loser,
loser and what sorry fun deep pockets your deep pocket pockets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yeah, you're pretty generous.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Good fair on your fun supporting the short man out there. Jill,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 24 (01:10:04):
Hi.

Speaker 26 (01:10:05):
I'm folks for two and a half two younger sisters
that were six quot. I had a normal sister which
was about five nine five ten. My two brothers are
both over six feet tall. Our mother was half I
think Dally and Mildy, and she was six foot one.

(01:10:30):
My father, who I think was the biggest person in
our family, was about five nine five ten. He taught
me that it doesn't matter how big you are or
how small you are in height, muscle, strength, anything. He said,
it's what's between your brain. And my dad worked hard

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all his life. He took two jobs and at ninety
had a night job. He was a bouncer, and not
many people messed with my dad. And he taught me that.
He said, it's what's between your ears, that what size.
That's when size matters how big you think, not how small.

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He said, I've met big guys, they big the massive videos,
but the big dummies they fight, and he says big
guys are slow. And he shaped me because he did
a bit of karate. He was a very successful bouncer
for quite a few years of his life. So job
he did thro raise six kids the stage of his job,

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and I learned from him size does not matter. The
thing is the guys that are shorter, the center of
gravity is lower. So therefore when they are punching or
kicking or running, they are faster, they get in more repetitions.
Blah blah. By my dad took me that and he goes,

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you only need a small axe to chop down the
mighty tree.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yep, your dad had some good saying.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
You know, you got the Mike Tyson's and there was
the tours out there. Yeah, the little guys this text,
there's not a lot of tall ninety year olds. Are
short guys winning the end. That's true of dogs, right,
Little dogs live longer than big dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Good points.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
Yeah, so is that true that that that taller people
live don't live as long as as.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Shorter people if you've done the research on that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
We had that jockey before that was in his nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's good ticks here you getay, guys. I
dated two shorter men, both the best lovers of everhead
it's nice. What's that I've dated two shorter men in
my life. Both of them were the best lovers of everhead. Wow,
So is that true? Short men?

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
So what you've discovered O eighty is not?

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Well that was Was she dating them separately?

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
I don't know. I mean it sounds like she's not
with them anymore. So that wasn't clearly enough?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Never was she was them at the same time? Was
it too good?

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Good teach?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
You could have been right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Keep those teas giving. There's a there's a common missing there.

Speaker 27 (01:13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Two, it's the text number. It has ten three, beg
very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Z EDB News Talks ZEDB. It is eight minutes to
three and we're talking about short men dating taller woman
or vice versa woman. If you've ever dated a shorter
man at eight one hundred and eighty, ten eighty is
that number to call and nine two ninety two is
the text. Couple of texts here get our guys. A
family I know of successful rugby player's dad was five
to seven, eldest son five nine, seeking Son sixty one,

(01:13:39):
Youngert sixty four. It's just going to keep going on
and on.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Scientific studies largely suggest that shorter people tend to live
longer on average than taller people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Research indicates an inverse relationship between height and lifespan, with
shorter individuals generally experiencing lower rates of diet related chronic
disease in a higher likelihood of reaching extreme old age.
It's a lot to do with organ strain apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
All right, well that's a win for the shorter guys
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Yeah, yeah, all right, so you know, short, but you
win the marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, John, how are you this after night? John?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
John seems to be playing the hard or something.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Then we've got some elevator music going on, John.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Tall harp playing John.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Oh, I just stopped now he got self conscious? All right,
thanks John, kiddo.

Speaker 21 (01:14:26):
Michael Tyler, I'm not I don't come from a particularly
tall family, but like the little statistics you got there,
I suppose us not tall fellows don't have your heads
running through the jungle or through the orchard anyway.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
But when we were young fellows, my mum had a
little poem. What he used to say, was because we
used to say, hey, you know, we're not tall as
the other kids.

Speaker 21 (01:14:48):
And her poem goes like this. I met a little
elfman once down with the lilies blow, I asked, and
why he wasn't it was so short, and why he
did not grow? He cocked his head, he smiled a smile.
He looked me through and through. I'm just as big
for me, he said, as you are big for you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
Beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
It's lovely, Michael.

Speaker 21 (01:15:10):
That's quite neat.

Speaker 28 (01:15:11):
But you know they're not.

Speaker 21 (01:15:13):
Go heart, Michael, well doing, because we used to recite
it to ourselves.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Wow, it's a beautiful, beautiful verse.

Speaker 18 (01:15:21):
It was good.

Speaker 21 (01:15:22):
Anyway, It's been an interesting talking and hearing about different
people and that's a good subject.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Well, I appreciate you call Michael. There you go, Well,
thank you very much. A couple of tikes here, geta guys,
what about Tom Cruise. I wouldn't come out of bed.
That's from gill.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
Is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
He's up there with one of the short gags.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
You wouldn't kick Tom Cruise out of bed?

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Fair enough?

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Well, prince very short?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yes, he did, all right, he did very well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:53):
What's his name, Kevin Hart?

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
That you know?

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
I watched the Kevin Hart roast the other day. Ninety
jabs to what he was this one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
He's got a guy's great topic. My wife is a
wonderful two inches taller than me and even more in heels.
Far from ridicule, begs interest about what my draw card is.
I'm five to seven, so loving tall woman was a
clever way to improve my genetic line. That is from
gym Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Prince was only five to two, Oh cheap as okay.
Gandhi Gandhi was only five to one. Little old Andy
was a short us Winston Churchill five sacks okay, So
Winston Churchill and Gandhy loomed large over politics and they're
just short. Commit Kendrick Lamar five to five. Well, there's
some short people that have done.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Very well, haven't they short men for the win?

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Yeah, Kevin Hart five to one, five to one, okay.
Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter h five to three.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
He's done a right. He played a good wizard. Yeah, fine, actor.
He's got a lot of money as well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
He's got on a broomstick, isn't he old Daniel redlife,
he certainly is. That's where he gets his height. Yeah,
around the Quidditch Arena.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Great discussion. Thank you everyone who gave us a bars
and texts for going out to the news. A better
Randy Newman. I believe the song is called short people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I believe you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
What a chune. A lot of people requesting us new
Sport and weather or on its way. Great debut company
this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News
Talk said, the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Very good afternoon, Welcome back into the show. It is
six pass three. Just reminder coming up in about twenty
five minutes New Zealander of the week. Looking forward to that.
Then we're going to catch up with Jason Pine live
in Vancouver, head of the must Went All Whites Versus
Belgium game. But right now, Sky City and aj Hackett
Bunge New Zealand have launched the world it's highest lift
and descent ride from Auckland Skytower today. The skyride takes

(01:18:13):
rider as one hundred and ninety two meters up outside
the sky tower for a high speed descent back to
ground level. New Zealand Hero reporter Katie Oliver was one
of the first to give it a go.

Speaker 25 (01:18:33):
Wow, I'm alive and I have a minor widgy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
So that was Katie Oliver given her the go and
she is with us right now. Katie, how you doing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:44):
Hello, I'm good.

Speaker 25 (01:18:45):
I'm kind of coming off to the adrenaline now. But yeah,
the widgie wasn't actually as bad as I thought it
would be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Tell us about the details of the jump, because you know,
the audio doesn't really do the video justice.

Speaker 25 (01:18:59):
Oh so it's like a ninety second ride. I think
all up is how long it takes, depending on how
nice the aj Hackett guys.

Speaker 19 (01:19:07):
Are feeling at the top.

Speaker 25 (01:19:08):
They could keep you there for longer if they want to.
But yeah, I was going up and I got about
half way up and I did let out some profanity,
and I'm really glad that the auto audio cut out
because it got so high and I realized there was
no way, no way out except down. So it was bloody, windy,
Holy molly, it was wendy at the top.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
So it's one hundred and ninety two meters, is that right?
You get dragged up one hundred and ninety two meters?
So going up, yeahs, your profanity came out when you
were going up, because that's that's almost the scariest part,
isn't it the slow mover.

Speaker 25 (01:19:43):
Yeah, honestly, that was when my stomach dropped. It wasn't
when I got because we dropped when we dropped down.
I think we get up to like one hundred k
of an hour. Yeah, I honestly my stomach dropped into
bloody Antarctica once I got halfway up because I was
I was like, okay, right, we're doing this, and then
the guys told me that it was actually really windy,
like they were almost going to close it. It was

(01:20:04):
about at the time that I went up, it was
about two kilometers per hour below the limit for win.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Did they tell you that before or after?

Speaker 25 (01:20:13):
They said that to me after?

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
You never want to be doing these things when they're
right on the limit, you know, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:20:19):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
But it was very cool.

Speaker 25 (01:20:21):
It was very very fun, highly highly recommend So one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Hundred kilometers an hour that seems faster than gravity. Does
it force itself down or something?

Speaker 25 (01:20:32):
To be fair, I'm going off what Ryan said initially.
I think it's I feel like the team, like the A. J.
Hackett mentioned like ninety kilometers per hour, But I mean
one hundred sounds much more impressive.

Speaker 22 (01:20:42):
But now it was cool.

Speaker 25 (01:20:44):
It was Yeah, it definitely feels quick when you're up there,
it's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
And were they comforting just before you had the drop?
Katie or sometimes you know AJ hacke at are renowned
for just winding it up a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
New Zealand tourism operators always doing a little bit of
a gag, aren't they They're doing the one and two
and they're dropping you on two instead of three, or
you know, there's always a gag.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:21:05):
Henry he's the co founder of AJ and I was
chatting with him earlier. He was giving me a lot
of gyps before it went up, which was which is
part of it. It was fun, but yeah, definitely definitely
a few nits.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
So just say it's ninety seconds all up. Because of course,
normally in a bungee jump type situation, this is quite
different from a bungee jump. It's got that contraption around you.
But normally, you know, you make your own way up
and then you jump off, but this one, as you
get pulled up and then you get dropped.

Speaker 25 (01:21:34):
Yeah, I think that the scary part of this is
that it's faster than a bungee in the sense that
when I've done the Queenstown bungee, and when I did that,
it was like you get on the platform and you
just accept your fate and you just do it, whereas
with this, you're slowly going up and you were at
the mercy of the people kind of bringing you up,
and you're just looking around going holy dully. And then yeah,

(01:21:57):
you don't really get a choice in the matter.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Just there's so much time to think about what's going
on and have a look around the city. How much
does it cost for a civilian to do it?

Speaker 25 (01:22:05):
Okay, you know what, I got to do it for free,
so I don't actually boast another aja. Hackett didn't tell me,
so I think you have to find out. I know
that the sky jump is like three twenty on a
regular day, but honestly, have a look into it.

Speaker 5 (01:22:21):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Would you recommend it, Yeah, ye, unless you scared a hide.

Speaker 5 (01:22:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
But the feeling after doing something like that is it's
quite hard to explain the amount of doorphins you get
once you've you've done something crazy like that.

Speaker 25 (01:22:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see why they do it
for they use it as a tool for resilience. That's
what the Aja Hackett guy was telling me.

Speaker 5 (01:22:44):
It's a tool for like adults.

Speaker 25 (01:22:45):
And counseling and stuff. Yeah, and I definitely can see
why because definitely felt resilience after that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:51):
Now, I've got a question for you from the video, Katie,
you were holding your phone. Wasn't that a risk that
you're going to drop your phone? Like they normally take
those kind of things off you.

Speaker 25 (01:23:01):
Yeah, So we did have to wrangle that. We had
a bit of organization to kind of convince them to
let us hold it. It was actually their phone.

Speaker 22 (01:23:08):
It was aj Hackett's phone, right.

Speaker 25 (01:23:11):
And fortunately they actually carabbean. You can't see it, but
they had the phone to the thing, So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
It's right, okay, because this was just at.

Speaker 25 (01:23:21):
The mercy of my my grip, right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Because the whole time I was watching, I was thinking,
she's going to drop this, yeah, and it's going to
lend them someone's head.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Smart deal of lifeline. On the final final question, Katie,
you've got any advice for someone who wants to avoid
the wedgy situation?

Speaker 25 (01:23:37):
Lean back, pull yourself back in the seat. I think
that's what they told me right at the start, and
because I was so focused on getting the shot, which
didn't even happen because the phone cut out. Anyway, Yeah,
I think avoid a WI by just getting company, do
what they tell you can.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
You'll be sweet love it. Katie, thanks very much having
a chat with us. It looked a hell of a
lot of fun. That is Katie Oliver, NZ Herald and
Ryan Bridge now reporters, so we won't to have a
chat with you. What are the best extreme adventure activities
you've done in New Zealand? Tell us, Oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. That number thirty.

Speaker 7 (01:24:09):
Past three, News Talk said, be it is a.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Quarter past three. So on the back of aj Hackett
and sky City launching their latest adventure experience, the Skyride,
what are the best extreme adventure activities in New Zealand
according to you? I one hundred and eighty ten.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Eighty this, Texas says the swoop at Velocity Valley in
rot Thru It is awesome. They pull you up on
this like big crane in a bag. You can do
it in pairs. Then you have to unhook yourself at
the top to four twelve stories up. Terrifying. I've done that. Cool, Yeah, yeah,
my mate ge Lane and I went up and you
get pulled right up quite slowly, and the tourism operated

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did that classic joke where they put like a carabineer
or something on top of you that you can't see it,
and then as your wee way up, it falls off
and they go, oh my god. Anyway, they always do that.
That is sic kind of joke. Yeah, but it's great.
But anyway, I put my kids on it when I
went back the other time, and there was a video
taken and the kids didn't know it was audio, and

(01:25:06):
I hadn't really explained to my youngest son what it was.
He didn't really know what he was doing right, And
halfway up he started swearing and it was the first
time I'd ever who him sweet. He was like he
was just going saying the iftward over and over and
over again as a as a ten year old. It
was very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Tuns boys into men. Yeah, one hundred and eighteen eighties
number called get.

Speaker 22 (01:25:24):
A camera, Hello, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Very good? What do you reckon?

Speaker 24 (01:25:29):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:25:30):
I did something pretty exciting. I thought, something I'd always
wanted to do was the wing walk on.

Speaker 22 (01:25:35):
An old tiger moth.

Speaker 17 (01:25:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
Cool, so that was a.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Add more airport and I thought I it wasn't really
a wing walk. It was like a wing stand because
they put the frame on the top of the wing
and then you sort of have these seat belts that
come over your shoulders and a waist strap, but they
that you're standing there while they take off and then
they fly around about twenty minutes and then they land

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and you're still on top of the plane. And that
was with a guy called Woodsey who had an old
yellow Tiger molt.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
So is there a person on either side or is
it unbalanced?

Speaker 22 (01:26:11):
No, you're in the center.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Oh okay, all right, so you know it's a bye wing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Right, Yes, in the States, like people actually climb out
of the back of the sub seat and they climb
up and they sort of walk through the wing.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Yes, so you're on the top. Sorry I'm being an idiot.
You're on the very top of course, right makes sense?

Speaker 5 (01:26:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:26:32):
Yeah, So I've seen a movie years ago about flying
down to Rio or something with all these women doing
this dance on top of these by wing.

Speaker 22 (01:26:44):
Planes, and I thought it that would be so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
And then after I was I booked this when I
was all keen then someone told me that the actually
filmed it inside the studio with all these big wind
sort of turbines, and that they were actually on top
of the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:27:02):
Right, So the people that influenced you to do it
didn't actually do it, but then you would signed up
to tell it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
It's fair.

Speaker 4 (01:27:09):
But I loved it about twenty minutes.

Speaker 22 (01:27:14):
I think it costs two hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:27:17):
What was the scariest part? Was it taking off, being
in the air or landing Cameron?

Speaker 4 (01:27:23):
Ah, nothing, really, I was just like riding an old motorbike.
It's just like you're sort of gelopping through the sky
and the eighteen hundred feet which is about as high.

Speaker 11 (01:27:34):
As the Eiffel Tower. But it was it was just great.
It was a great thing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
But you consider that a lot of a lot of
people are too scared to even fly on a seven
three seven in a seat, you know, so you're not
you're obviously not scared of heights.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
Well, I don't know that.

Speaker 22 (01:27:51):
I don't think i'd do a bungee jump.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Right. It's funny the different things that scared different people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
I'd put that as far more terrifying than a bungee Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:28:01):
No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
What have you, Scott, have you sky dived?

Speaker 24 (01:28:07):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:28:08):
But yeah, I thought that might be nice.

Speaker 11 (01:28:11):
But I think once you've done the wing walk sort of,
you know, it's not much le as to part from
the wing, fooing would be good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
I love that. Yeah, good on you. I didn't know
you could do that. Welcome to oh in a minute,
I've managed to mess up the phones areas, Dennis.

Speaker 10 (01:28:29):
Guys, there you going good mate? Yeah, I'm just calling
up By did sky diving in the late eighties and
the safety back then was totally different to what you
have now. No tandem jumps, nothing like that. All the
training was hanged from the hang of the roof for
half an hour while they went through the beds and pieces,

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and then jump in the plane and up you gave.
And I remember I was the second guy to jump.
The first guy in front of me he put his
leg out. Of course, the plane's going at about fifty
k's an hour and he felt the wind hit his
leg and he said, the hell with that, and they
just threw him out. Well the static light. They actually
threw him out open the shute and it was fine.

Speaker 11 (01:29:11):
So I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Had an automatic shoot opener.

Speaker 10 (01:29:14):
Did you say, yeah, they caught a static line. They
talked on the plane, hooked on your parachute, and once
it gets about five meters ordinarily opened the shoot.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
I mean that's a good thing because because you mentioned
a situation where you just get so petrified with fear
that you never pulled the shoot.

Speaker 10 (01:29:29):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, Well that was their main safety
that you were on a static line and only if
the main shoot didn't open, then it was going to
be up to you to do the reserve shot. And
then when I went to go, you had to go
out down the wheel straight, stand on the wheel, and
then jump off. The pilot had forgotten to put the
brake on the wheels, so when I stood on the wheel,
that spun around and I fell and I fell off,

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and that was me my st guy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Don't wow. Yeah Jesus, so that that would have been it.
That would have been a weird feeling, you know that
at that point, and you're going, this isn't right, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:30:06):
And we're well, it's like compared to today. It was
the amateur. And then I did a second jump, me
and a mate and we had you had a helmet
on with the radio that they could talk to you.
But they've got our names mixed up, so saying, Brett,
you're doing fine that Dennis, turn around, turn around, and
you're starting to get away from the airfield. So they
were calling Dennis who was bretton Brett who was Dennis?

(01:30:27):
So get bread Hitt on going further and further away,
and I keep on turning around and around over the airfield.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
Wow, Ma, that is some blue stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:30:36):
It's like that saying and on the Simpsons that time,
nothing possibly I could go wrong. That's possibly. That's the
first thing that's ever gone wrong. When you hear little
mistakes like that, you're wondering what else I've got wrong?
If they packed them, I think it was.

Speaker 28 (01:30:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:30:50):
I think it was more good luck than good management
back in those days.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Yeah, well, I'm pledgister with us. Yeah, Dennis, great story,
Thank you very much mate. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty. What is the best extreme adventure activity you've
done in New Zealand? Tell us nine two ninety two
is the text number as well. It is twenty two past.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Three, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Twenty five past three. What is the best extreme adventure
activity you've done in New Zealand? Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
The number the six says you shouldn't be talking about
this after what happened to that Brazilian woman. So of
course you've heard this, but I mean, this is a
totally different situation. A woman died in a tragic extreme
sports accident in Brazil. When was this? This was quite
recently sort of a couple of weeks ago. Three men
have been arrested over the incident, in which instructors failed

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to attach a rope to her before helping her jump
from a bridge in sar Pula. Wow, right, so she
fell forty meters and just hit the ground. I mean
you've got to attach the rope guys.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
Yeah, definitely do that's job number one. So I don't
know if you can equate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
You've got to check attach the bunge. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
AJ Hackett don't make mistakes.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
Like that, No, they certainly don't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
And in this case at the skytower also you're getting
dragged up, so if they attached you, then you'll fall off,
you know, when you're you know a couple of meters
off the ground all the way up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Yeah, these guys know what they're doing. One hundred and
eighty ten eighties.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
I mean, looking at the setup they've got here for
this bungee. I mean, you know, if you do one
of these, you know, extreme sports things, and that's why
a lot of people like doing it in New Zealand
because you know that the safety standards are incredibly high.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
But I'm looking at the rickety, old, rusty old bridge
and the old, rusty, old, rubbish old set up that
she was doing that bungee, and that takes all kinds
of bravery, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Yeah, that is rolling the dice on life. Leanne. What
was it for you?

Speaker 29 (01:32:47):
Well, I decided that some years ago I always wanted
to jump out of a perfectly good aeroplane, so I
decided that, yeah, just to do one of those skydives,
and you know, you let somebody else take over and
have the control. And I just literally from way in
to set up and going up, I let myself go

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in all aspects in my head, the whole thing. I
just went in with complete enjoyment and decided to and
do exactly that. So I was in the sky, I
had it all videoed and everything that everybody chipped in
and bought it as a birthday present. And I saw
the video and I was determined to have antics with
the girl who was a strap to me, and I
was doing the nice one stew in the air and
I was I was having fun in the air, and

(01:33:31):
because I knew there's nothing you can do about it
when you make a decision like that to get to
jump out, it's just there's the moment and go for it.
And the school said, she said, oh, You're the most
fun I've ever had up here doing this because they
have to deal with a lot of fear, as you
can imagine. And I don't know whether I'll do it again,
mainly because I've done it and I've kind of ticked
that box. But I absolutely loved it, and my stomach

(01:33:54):
didn't walk away from me or anything like that. I mean,
it takes a lot to get me feeling that your
adrenaline and I quite like that adrenaline buzz because it
takes you out of your comfort zone. But I've heard
there's a fantastic fly thing over some deep, big canyon
in the South Islands that looks pretty out there that

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you can also do, and it's it's just from one
side to the other, or one side and then you
land at the other. It's just very deep.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks for calling in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
Yeah, I think yes.

Speaker 5 (01:34:28):
Swing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
There's a bunch of people talking about the nervus here, Craig.
What water rafting?

Speaker 30 (01:34:34):
Yeah, mate, I do quite a wild sport for fun.
So a lot of the things are quite underwhelming. I've
done bungee jumping and I take it or leave it.
It didn't give you a rush, I didn't think. But
whitewater rafting always gave me a really good rush. You're
doing it with your mates, we can value for money.

(01:34:56):
You know, you're looking two to three hour trips, so
you take good out in the morning or afternoon and
a good great side river.

Speaker 10 (01:35:04):
Mate.

Speaker 30 (01:35:05):
It's just adrenaline the whole way.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
What river did you do it on?

Speaker 30 (01:35:09):
We've done. I don't know if they do it anymore.
We did it on the ra their Tower, the rang
of Tiki in the Kaitooner, like the Katoons, the biggest
water ball done commercially in the world or something. And
they got over these waterfalls and through these Grade five rapids.
There's a real buzz and value for money it's just brilliant.

Speaker 5 (01:35:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Did you go in go in the water several times?

Speaker 29 (01:35:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 30 (01:35:36):
Yeah, I mean there was one time I thought the
whole life went before my eyes. I thought I was drowning.
But you come up, you spit it out and you
laugh about it. You know, it's great. Yeah, but I
raised speedway sidecas and all the other things, like your bungee.
So there's thirty seconds it's over, and I think they're

(01:35:57):
of a wasted coin.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Yeah, great, Craig, thank you very much. So Grade five
white Water Raftian does seem pretty full noise and a
lot of fun. A couple of texts before we've got
New Zealander of the Week. This one says Gaday, Guys,
the most adventurous thing I've done is water ski in
a pair of Daisy dukes. Good on. You just had
to keep it real And this one did a halle

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bungee ninety ninety seven. AJ Hackett operated at three hundred
meter drop, had to lean forward and drop. It was
terrifying and you for it at the same time. Very good, right,
Thank you to everybody who gave us a buzz and
text on that. We got the headlines coming up in
the New Zealander of the week the species.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
I could not buy anything like that for a birthday present.
Just imagine if something went wrong. Yeah. I bought a
skydive for the mother of my children and then we
went to watch and at that point I was thinking
this could have been the worst idea in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Yeah yeah, all right, bang on, how past three New
Zealander of the Week coming up after the headlines.

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Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
Good News News DOG'SZB. It's time once again for the
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Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week. As always,
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Speaker 31 (01:38:33):
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Will the exceptional wonders of Kighi achievement ever end you
are a New Zealander.

Speaker 17 (01:39:09):
Of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Everyone knows we have a major invasive caller, a seaweed
infestation up north. Luckily, we have a new giant underwater
robotic sheriff in town, weighing in at a powerful sixteen ton.
We're thirteen meters of reslaughtering football.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
This submersible bad boy can remove ten thousand.

Speaker 28 (01:39:38):
Square meters of evil algae.

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That's one hundred and forty times in aount we were
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most simply call it call a Pasaurus rex. Whatever you
call it, it's a giant piece of kiwi ingenuity designed
an awpoa and it is a New Zealander.

Speaker 10 (01:40:03):
Of the Week.

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Jack Cowie did it in nineteen forty seven, thirty six
years ago.

Speaker 31 (01:40:14):
The great Sir Richard Hadley did it again now in
twenty twenty six, after a stunning eleven wicket bag to
help defeat England at the Oval. This big Botox curricator,
who looks a lot like mister Darcy from the two
thousand and five movie version of Jane Austen's Pride to Prejudice.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Has done it again for New Zealand. Millions and millions
of people around the world play the sport, but Black
Caps Pace bowler Matt Henry has popped out of the
shadows and is spending his time in the sun, becoming
only the third New Zealander ever in the history of
cricket to be ranked the best Test bowler in the world.

(01:40:56):
And for that, Matt Henry, you get an even bigger
trophy you are.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I'm mad Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons on News Dog
ZB New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Of the Week take it away, Sir Howard.

Speaker 24 (01:41:08):
At parks.

Speaker 17 (01:41:20):
Many what's chances.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
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Speaker 28 (01:41:38):
My second, he remains the bight through him and La.
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Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
B Z ME brilliant right. Coming up after the break,

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We're going to catch up with Jason Pineys live in Vancouver.
Ahead of that All Whites must win match against Belgium.
It is twenty two to four.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Matt Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk z BE.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
It is nineteen to four, so the All Whites World
Cup fate comes down to one final group game. They
take on at three pm tomorrow afternoon New Zealand time, Belgium,
of course. Joining us live from Vancouver's News Talk zbi's
Jason pine Gette Piney, Hello.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Lads, Hey, Yeah, so what's the atmosphere over there? Have
you hooked up with the Kiwi fan base in attendance?

Speaker 27 (01:42:55):
I have, actually, yeah, went up to where the Flying
Kiwis are largely based just out of the center of
Vancouver yesterday and they are They're enjoying their trip, guys.
I can tell you that they are not wasting any
any of their time here in Vancouver, either during the
day or late into the night. I can report they
were in various states of disrepair, some of them actually,

(01:43:17):
but they're having a great time and they are going
to absolutely love being there tomorrow. They've obviously, with New
Zealand playing two games in Vancouver, one sort of last
weekend and one coming up tomorrow, they've said, had a
bit of time, so they've shot up to Whistler, which
is only a couple of hours away from here. They
had some fun up there by the sounds of things.
They've been checking out the sights and sounds. But tomorrow

(01:43:38):
it is game faces on and cheering for the All
Whites to see if they can win this win or
go home match.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Well, what is the feeling before the game? As are
people believing they are? I mean, and I think that's
all you can do. I mean, the supporters certainly believe.

Speaker 27 (01:43:53):
They think, hey, why can't we be here to witness
a special piece of New Zealand sporting history. Inside the team,
I think it's exactly the same. You know, you're here
from the coach and a couple of the players and
being in and around the team, and all you get
is this era of of confidence that hey, we can
go out there and be the masters of our own destiny.

(01:44:13):
They've got to the final game in paul play and
their World Cup is still alive. There's a number of
teams who have got to their third and final game
with nothing to play for, and you know, one of
them's playing playing right now Turkey against the United States.
Going into this game, they knew that this would be
their last game. New Zealand, on the other hand, are
still alive. Yes, it's a tough ask. It's a big,

(01:44:35):
big task against the world's number ten. Were are eighty fifth,
just for reference, But funny things happen sometimes in elite
level sport and who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:44:44):
So what do you want to see, Piny When it
comes to the strategy the All Whites tomorrow, do they
need an early goal and then lock down that defense?
What do you want to see?

Speaker 27 (01:44:52):
Yeah, it's such an interesting question, Tyler, you know, as
to how they will attack the game. I kind of
feel as that might be the other way around. I
feel like Belgium will really come at New Zealand in
the early stages of this game tomorrow. They too need
to win the game to go through to the next round.
And I can tell you talk to a couple of
Belgian journalists today at the Media Center at BC Place

(01:45:13):
in Vancouver. There is a feeling of great displeasure back
in Belgium that the side hasn't already secured their passage
through to the round of thirty two. I mean, it
would be like the All Blacks some needing their final
Paul game at a Rugby World Cup to be won
in order to get through. I mean, we expect that
the All Blacks win their first couple of games and
go through. The Belgians have scored one goal at this

(01:45:34):
tournament in two games, and it was an own goal,
so you know, so they haven't exactly been setting the
world on fire. But I believe I'll come out tomorrow.
New Zealand, I think, have to soak that pressure up.
Have to be very very defensively solid to start with,
and then take any chance that comes via a set
piece when the game opens up. Look to if we
get to sixty minutes and Belgium and New Zealand are

(01:45:57):
still locked at nil. All Belgium, you know what will
that do to them? Pressure does funny things to players
who are already under a great deal of pressure. So yeah,
I kind of feel as though New Zealand would have
to soak pressure early and when the game perhaps opens
up a bit in the second half, that might be
the time to strike.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
And Piney, should all our dreams come true? If the
fantastical should happen and we beat Belgium, what would happen
then for the all Whites.

Speaker 27 (01:46:21):
Well, I've just been actually looking at these possible permutations
ahead of talking to you. One very possible permutation here.
If New Zealand do beat Belgium tomorrow and in the
other game that's on at the same time, Egypt either
beat a run or that game's a drawer, then New
Zealand will finish second in their group. They would then
play the team that finishes second in Group D, and

(01:46:42):
we're about eight minutes away from that being Australia. So
can you imagine New Zealand against Australia and around a
thirty two match at a Football World Cup?

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
How good would that be?

Speaker 3 (01:46:55):
Yeah? Australians and big tournaments, Yeah, that would be amazing. Ye,
come on, go key, we give a taste.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Yeah, Piney, thank you very much, mate. Enjoy the game,
Enjoy Vancouver, and we're hoping, we're all dreaming, and we
know they can do it.

Speaker 27 (01:47:11):
I don't want to come home yet, guys, So let's
hope I'm talking to you on Monday from from still
state side and not back home.

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
Yeah, brilliant, enjoy it. That is New Stalks hereb's Jason
Pine live from Vancouver. So that match the All Whites
must win on Tomorrow three pm New Zealand time, come on,
ki we right? It is fourteen to four.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
And Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
So Round eight of the twenty twenty six Formula One
season heads to Spielberg for the Austrian Grand Prix this weekend.
Joining us now as New Zealand's premiere F one reporter
with the New Zealand Herald, Alex Powell get a.

Speaker 18 (01:47:44):
Alex afternoon, that's how are we?

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
What's the story with Liam Lawson and the Spanish rumors
that he's losing his place next year? Alex?

Speaker 18 (01:47:54):
It's really taken the whole sort of driver market by
storm these last couple days, hasn't it. So obviously it
came out of Spain on us what Wednesday morning our time,
Tuesday morning our time, that Nikolas Solov, the Bulgarian red
bull back driver and F two who has been guaranteed
a place in racing balls next year, and that'll come
at Lee and Laws expense. I reached out to the
team very quickly and they said, yeah, we don't really

(01:48:17):
know anything about this. I reached out to Liam's camp
and they said, we done anything about this. But the
funny thing is that story has come from somewhere. Someone
has told that journalist and he's been confident enough to
run it. So you worry it might be a smoke
without fire, So no smoke without fire type thing. But
all we can do is wait and see.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Tell us about the Austrian track.

Speaker 18 (01:48:35):
Alex Austria is one of my favorite tracks. It's very
similar to Spain what we had last week. It's a
fast circuit. It's you know, the Red Bull Ring for
a reason. It's basically it's not a circle, but there's
not too many type technical bits. You can really drive
flat out. I think we will see a lot of
overtaking just with the new cars and your regulations this year.

(01:48:55):
So yeah, I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:57):
And it is the Red Bull Ring, as you say,
it's got the massive beast in the middle. Does it
being a red Bull situation help Liam out at all?

Speaker 18 (01:49:09):
I mean it did last year. If you remember what
happened last year, Max with Stapham got taken out on
the first quarter, I mean Land did too, and he
fought back from ninth pall up to six and he
was the highest place of Red Bulls four cars and
that result really kick started a year if you remember.
So if we think anything like that, I think Kiwis
would be really grateful. The really interesting thing though, is
because it's Red Bull's home race, all of Red Bull's

(01:49:30):
big power brokers are there, so oll of them and
Slaugh the group CEO, and then the heads of the
tire side and the head of the Austrian side. They're
all going to be in attendance this week and that's
really set tongues winging of what they're actually there for.
Are they there to try and make some sort of
last ditch attempt to get Max for Stappen to stay
next year?

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Well he didn't even make it to the Max with
Stepham stand last year? Did He didn't even drive past
them once in the race. It was quite impressive. Hey yeah, finally,
is Sir Lewis Hamilton back or has he just had
a bit of luck lately around the Ferrari?

Speaker 18 (01:50:00):
I mean I'm a personal believer that there's no such
thing as like you make your own luck in life.
I think he's had a really good couple of weeks.
I think for have really found something that you juxtapose
what Lewis has done with what's happened to Charles Clerk
the last couple of weeks as well, and he just
can't buy a track. If he can really get over
the line this week and show that he is there,

(01:50:20):
I think he is right in this title fright now.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
And just on this heat wave, I understand the heat
hazard rules were activated. What is that going to mean
for this race?

Speaker 18 (01:50:29):
Alex So drivers do have the option of a cooling
system within their car, which is sort of like this
little less set up they wear. You don't have to,
you can choose to, but if someone does, then basically
the cars have to all be at the same weight,
so the cars and drivers that don't use it will
have extra weight added to their cars. It's really complicated
and how it works. I know a lot of the

(01:50:50):
drivers don't like it, but you know, if it's as
bad as we hear, and it was really bad in
Barcelona last time, I mat remember that. You know, Lewis
Hamilton's a three stop strategy because the track was so
hot and did so much damage to his tires. So
if it's worse than that, then we really could be
in some chaos.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
All right, exciting up, So qualifying Sunday morning one am
and in the race roughly one am Monday morning, bring
it on.

Speaker 18 (01:51:16):
Qualifyings two am, two.

Speaker 3 (01:51:18):
Am, qualifies two am. Yeah, all right, good on you,
all right, well, good on you. If one's scheduling on
the IF one website, you know they've got that wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Alex, thank you very no, Alex, thank you very much. Mate.
That is Alex Power New Zealand's premiere if One reporter
with the New Zealand Herald right got to take a break.
It is Tender four.

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Thank you so much for listening. Thanks for all your calls.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
And texts, and we get so many great kiwis calling
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of Buffet. A lot of people coming through with Bavy
they thought was one keywi when Beryl gave us a
buzz and was pretty worked up with all the judgment
she was hearing.

Speaker 32 (01:52:17):
These people that judge people for piling up their plates.
I mean, those restaurants know that they are going to
get some gazzlers and some people with who want to
eat everything they can. And I'm totally against people that
are so nosy that they're watching people and what they
put on their plate. I judge people that judge people

(01:52:38):
for watching people put things on their plate. I mean,
the restaurant knows that they're going to get these people through.
But if you're so bored in your life that you've
got to sit down and watch Marilyn fred or Jillian
or Tyler or Matt pil up their plate, can't it
have much going on in your life?

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
Good on your Beryl. That's a Buffet judgment inception right there.
The great and powerful Heather see Ellen is up next,
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am I playing this opening track from Tom Peter's debut

(01:53:16):
solo album, Full Moon Fever.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
What a tune free fall in. It's got to be
with the launch of this new skyride at the sky
City and a few people calling through about skydiving.

Speaker 3 (01:53:27):
Yeah, that's right, Aja Hackett have found a new way
to jump off the skytower one hundred and ninety two meters.
You get dragged up, takes ninety seconds and then you
just get dropped.

Speaker 2 (01:53:37):
Looks like a great time.

Speaker 3 (01:53:39):
Travel one hundred kilometers now down the skytower.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Good times.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
All right, Okay, you've seen busy sir, will it you go?
We'll be back live nationwide from Monday afternoon until then.
Give them a taste of Kiwi bless go the All Whites.

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