Full Show Podcast: 30 July 2026

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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Dida, Tyler Adams, Hello everyone. O one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number we'll get on to talking
about recruit training in New Zealand. Apparently some of the
stuff is from World War bloody two eighty years ago. Hey,
I went to Spider Man Brand New Day last night,
the premiere.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
How was it?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
I really enjoyed it, yep. I thought it was a
really good superhero movie. I like Tom Holland, I think
he's a great Spider Man, and you know, it was good.
It was good action pack but more grounded, more emotional.
I really enjoyed it. But I had this interrinting experience.
I was lining up on the on the red carpet
for the premierere night and and then you go through
and you get a photo with Spider Man. The real
Spider Man was there, right, the real Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, how lucky for you, mate, so in full costume
obviously because you can you can't see his face.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, so the real Spider Man's there, And so I'm
already starstruck by that and about to get my picture
taken with the real Spider Man. But then who do
I notice? It's just a hit of me in the queue?
Who Delan Denny's a lesnik? Wow, the high level mate, Yes,
the warrior, Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is he having a good time?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Superhero like on the on the wing often flies through
the year and such. Yep, he was having a great
time with his kids. And but anyway, so it was
what was funny was Spider Man was starstruck when when
DWZ was up.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
There, I can see that Spider Man's cool. It wasnk.
I mean, you know he is, he is top of
the pole.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
The Spider Man was pretty buff, but nothing on Dylan.
But you know, I've watched a lot of Warriors go
along to a lot of games, you know, and I
often see him running up you know, you know, coming
at pace for a hit up. Yes, and I go,
he doesn't, you know, I worry about him. I feel
like he's going to get injured because he just drops

(02:21):
the drops the chin and just absolutely fangs it.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
He puts a body on the line, doesn't Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
But now I'm not worried about him standing behind him.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Now you've seen him up close.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm worried about anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'm worried about it.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I'm worried about anyone who's running out.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I think that's very It's going to make.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Me enjoy the worries a lot more because I love
I love big hit up. But I'm also like, yeah,
but no, he's he is superhero in shape.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I've got to say, how good. But Spider Man Brand
New Day. It's in cinemas right now. I think of it.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Nice. Looks like a great movie. Right on to this topic,
there's going to be a good discussion. So New Zealand's
army recruit training is not in a position to meet
our existing or future demand. That's according to a newly
released government paper. So that paper was from Minister of
Defense Chris Pink's office, and hears get this much of
our training infrastructure is World War II era, increasingly ineffective

(03:11):
and creating a potential for unsafe training environments. So the
land training system that we operate under or the military does,
consists of eighty eight different components, ranging from classrooms to
rifle ranges to training areas. But the report outlines for
problems facing how we train our recruits. So that is
it's been used the same training routine for thirty years

(03:31):
and is not capable of ensuring success for the next
thirty years. The poor infrastructure and failing conditions makes it
difficult to train and retain people, and rigidity, they say
in the system limits the adaptivity needed to respond and
prepare for what we are bound to face over the
next couple of decades.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
That's concerning, isn't it, Because I feel obviously war is
always changing, isn't it. But what we're seeing in the Ukraine,
and you know, you had a big, big old school
army up against you know, of the Russians, and up
against the new fighting style, the new drone technology.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I've changed the game.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's hugely different, right, So we need to be training
like that, right, We need to be training like the
Ukrainians fights, smaller army technology, that's what we need, right.
And I was watching this documentary and it had some
of the Ukrainian frontline fighters and just talking about how
different it is just from the wars when the war started.

(04:34):
So there's this giant, this big, heavily tattooed Ukrainian soldier
was saying, used to be all marcho, used to be
all tough now And he was standing in front of
some kids that were basically playing video games with the drones,
and he's going, this is what it is now.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, wow, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
So that's a great point. I mean, so red rigidity
is the problem. Right, So if in this era you
need to be training your training all, you need to
be changing your training all the time, don't.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
You you'd think so? And undred and eighty ten eighty
is that number to cour What do you think on
this nine two nine two, if you've recently been through it,
or you've been through it in the last thirty years
or a family member has, what was it like and
where does it need to change? But does raise a
question just quickly, Matt is do we need to speak
to people that have been at the forefront of modern
warfare in recent times. You know, we haven't. Right, We've

(05:21):
got what used to be seen as a as very
good soldiers and very good training regime, but we haven't.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Said says has celebrated globally, yes.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
But we haven't had a mess of war that we've
been a part of for some time. Numbers and big numbers.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
I've been involved in a lot of stuff, you know. Yeah,
I mean have you have you read what's his name,
Jamie Pannell's book Serviceman j Was he part of the Yea?
He writes about the Taliban siege of Cabul's International Incontinental Hotel,
and his essays training was just just phenomenal. I mean that,

(06:01):
you know, if it's a great book, if you read it,
just just it's actually terrifying.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I need to I need to read that.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, And you know that just talks about how and
I know the essays training is different from this recruit training,
but he just talks a lot about how his training
got him through. So it became, you know, you're the
people being shot, you're being shot out, these people dying
around you. But he was so well trained that he
just went through it, you know, went through the processes
and got it done.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know that's how you say yes, right, But what
do you say, oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty,
Where do you think we fail when it comes to
training our soldiers? And what did you go through or
a family member go through or if you've been through
that training tell Us nine two ninety two is the
text as well. It is thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
It is a quarter past two. So there is concern
that the way that we train our soldiers and military
is not up to scratch for the modern era. There's
a paper that's been released that shows four different problems
facing our training system. That is that it's being used
for thirty years, is not capable of in success for
the next thirty, and that we have poor infrastructure and
failing conditions that makes it difficult to train and retain people.

(07:14):
Some of that infrastructure is from World War II era.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I just hope they're being trained how to hide
from drones.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, that's a big one in today's age. Ken your
ex army.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Yes and I can't see why they've got such an
issue with it, because the reason we're so good is
because he is so old, because we do it the
old way, right, but we have to work harder than
anyone else. Technology is only ever an ad. I mean

(07:45):
you're going on about drones. When the night Vision Verse
come in, we trialed it might root world leading night
vision and thermal imaging. They couldn't pick us up when
we use basic soldier skills, basic New Zealand soldier skills.
They would design the American Army not ze arms so ken.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
When you get if you're trained in New Zealand and
the basics of I guess live fire maneuvers and reconnaissance surveillance,
all those kind of things, classic things as it very
easy to then pick up new technology. Is that really
what you're saying? So if you are deployed somewhere and
I know it's Americans and maybe they hand you something,
can you learn how to use that that gear pretty

(08:29):
quickly if you've got the basics behind you.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Oh yeah, News on Soldiers game and we did. This
is a long time ago, but we were using old
American equipment. They come across and bought a new anti
armor weapons. Our guys jumped on it. Not a hit
first time. They couldn't use their old equipment that they'd
only give them up only years before because they no

(08:52):
longer trained in that they didn't understand it in the changes.
But our guys could adapt because we hit the basis
behind basis.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
So yeah, sorry to jump in there again. So when
they talk about World War II era structure, do you
know what they're referring to? They're clearly it's it's not weapons.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Right, hey, yes, because weapons and radios that were from
World War Two. When I was in we still had
them and back up and we were still using some
of them.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Whereabouts was this Ken?

Speaker 6 (09:27):
This is one of the infantry battalions. We were still
using radios from World War Two.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
But but I mean when were you doing your training?

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Well said, you ever start some worriers in your court,
you go to your course. The mine was in Burnham Infantry.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
No I mean sorry, sorry, Ken, I mean which year? What?
What year?

Speaker 6 (09:51):
I joined in eighty three through the ninety seven right
and nothing. I mean they tried to recall me and
I looked at getting back in to go to team
or because we still had the experience of the skills
that it's still used.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Well, that's what they're saying. They're saying that there's been
no as in the training really massively for thirty years.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Yeah, well that doesn't matter because if you go back
the reason how he sees are so good because they're
still using the basics sets a lot of the other
special forces of something realism. They've got to go back
to it.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I'm so much more confident when I'm coming up against.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Sorry some rogue audio coming through their kin And did
you end up using your training in combat kin?

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Technically we're on an active services soona forore that the
government might recognize it. Then when I left the arm mean,
a lot of us went and worked in the rights,
so there's security, so we had to use all their
military skills did and I still use that working security
because some of it is relevant. In fact, security comes
from the military, is the police its originally?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah? And then your experience was New Zealand's training respected
around the world. So when you're going for you know,
going to work in Iraq and such, and you say, look,
been trained by you know, the New Zealand's defense force.
Is that is that respected qualification?

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeah? It's more respected over there. There was in New Zealand.
New Zealand doesn't seek monetary trains. How long only the
work because they had a military.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Trainers right right? And how how long was your training? Ken?

Speaker 6 (11:32):
You're always training?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, right, so you have you're doing like anical is
it an initial sixteen week course and then you just
continue trailing the whole time?

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Will you do ten weeks on basic, ten weeks on infantry,
core trains of infantry, everyone's different, and then you do banding.
So once I find a sympantry court training it was
twelve months to be a band three another eighteen months
being or you're doing quarters and training all want when you.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Go up.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
What Ranke? Did you get up to Kent?

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Was only a four pop time we go out? That
was us for fourteen years r So we also that's
one of the things that because we're a small army,
its promotion takes a lot longer for a lot of
the guys. One of the things that probably goes against
the people being retained as once you leave and they

(12:32):
see it with all of us, the zone is one
country that doesn't support the soldiers at least leave.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Doesn't support doesn't support yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
So so so.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Ken, going back to what your initial point was is
you don't think it's a problem that there's you know,
out of date gear regime training because you think that
you believe in your experience that the basics of of
being a soldier are the same and that that that

(13:07):
it doesn't matter. And in fact, you actually think it's
better that they're using older, older equipment to train soldiers
because what that makes them more versatile and more.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
Good do your job? Everyone relies on GPS, but if
you just failed, you can't agate. And this happens Australian
Vice Centenary there was a big competition us on took
part in the US only you hit to use the
GPS and they got lost in the jungle and the

(13:41):
Tis and the odders and the jerkers had to go
back and find them because they had lost the Earth
of navigators.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Right, I mean the whole lot. Ken, thank you very
much for your thoughts and expertise. Really appreciate it. So
do you agree with Ken the fact that it is
thirty years old and we're still using it. But as
Ken see as those skills that you pick up and
being put through, maybe some try and infrastructure makes our
military and our soldiers better than other parts of the world.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, it's an interesting idea, isn't It's kind of like
Rocky four.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah. Yeah, where he.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Goes and does the basic training because he's going up
against the Russian who's using the high tech training. But
Rocky takes it right back to just as simple because
you know that's where he started punching meat. Yeah, punching
meat in a freezing works.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Where the Rockies of the military world. Yeah. Oh, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you've been through the training or you are currently
a member of the military. Love to hear from you.
Nine two ninety two is that text number is well
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Speaker 2 (16:21):
Estate News Talk z B twenty seven past one. So
we're talking about a recent Cabinet paper that sees our
military training is not up to par that we use
sometimes World War II era infrastructure and our training is
thirty years old. So do you think it is still
fit for purpose?

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Well, this Texas, says Matt. The quite you're thinking of
is the worst thing that can happen to a fighter
as you get civilized. No, it's not, because that's from
Rocky three, right he was talking about I was talking
about Rocky four.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You know you're Rockies.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
I was talking about Rocky four and I was talking
about Ivan Drago played by Dolph Langren. Yes, the Siberian Express,
the Siberian ball beast of a man, Russian's most lethal,
but he leaned too heavily on tech. The Siberian Express
is rocky. He trained old school. And that's what Keme

(17:13):
was saying that the New Zealand Army we don't need
to worry. They're training old school, you know, they get
us tougher. They can jump on the tech when they
need it. But this person says, guys, the caller is
dreaming a drone will find you and kill you. Look
at the Ukraine Russian casualties. They're immense modern tech as
the way forward. That's great.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, good cool, Craig, Josh, what's your thoughts on this?

Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yeah, hey, boys, Yeah, I'm no soldier or anything, so
just to put that out there first before I continue talking.
But no, you definitely need soldiers and army personnel to
be physically ready and trained, regardless of what kind of

(17:56):
equipment you might be using. So that's one thing. But
my biggest concern was actually that if we do three
up some money and we do spend it, I'm hoping
we do not go for that old stuff because it
happens time and time again. You know, we're getting some

(18:16):
forty year old, this fifty year old that we've got
to be real careful, Like, we do need some of that,
but what we actually need to do is set up
our own manufacturing, like the government are talking about specifically
for drones. But one thing we should really get on
with really quickly. Is anti drone technology also, Yeah, there's

(18:39):
some good stuff coming out of Ossie. I don't know
if you've seen those, but yeah, it's a worry looking
at the Ukraine footage watching singular soldiers getting stalked by drones.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
Scary.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yeah, So let's hope that when the day comes where
we're ready, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Although I mean I watch a lot of this footage, Josh,
and you do see you know, forces doing old school
soldiering stuff too, avoid the drones, like you know, hiding
in the undergrowth, you know, doing stuff that you know,
stealth stealthy operations that were the same for a lot
of stuff, just looking up a little bit more. I

(19:21):
mean they yeah, they spend a lot of time under nets, now,
don't they.

Speaker 9 (19:25):
Yeah, there will be working on invisibility too, because one
of the things is these drones can pick up body
heat and all sorts of stuff. So it's a matter
of what kind of gear will you be wearing if
you're going into this situation to sort of you know negate,
you know, so you can hide. You can't hide if

(19:47):
it can see you three feet in the dirt.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, Well, I hope they get that kind of training basically.
I mean we're talking about eighty one year old technology. Yeah,
I hope they are at least teaching them that how
to hide from you know, thermoimaging.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's a big part of it, right.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
It's interesting what Kem was saying before about being able
to learn how to you know, you train with old stuff,
but then you can in the new tech when it's
handed to you. Do you remember when those javelin missiles
were being I'm not sure how much they're still using
them in their Ukraine, but I saw a video on
how you learn how to fire them, and you have
to be a brave person. You're out there. There's a
whole lot of soldiering that you have to do around them,

(20:24):
which would be being taught in New Zealand. But it
was like an iPhone. The thing popped out, you know,
it's touch screens, select your target. It was very intuitive.
It was almost like you know, one of those new defibrillators. Defibrillators,
you know.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So the instructions just pop up, yeah, step one.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
So once the soldiers got it, it was you know,
the training was reasonably you know, learning the tech side
of it or how to operate. It seemed to me
to be you know, has advanced a lot like it
has thoughts or any tech that we have now. You know,
when you get TechEd now into your house, you don't
really read the instructions. You just open it and you
know how to use it, right, because everything's become an

(21:02):
intuitive feels to me from watching this one video and
extrapolating it out to everything that that to say user
friendly technology has been passed on to weapons as well.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, it would be fascinating to know if you're in
the military now what some of that new technology is
coming to the for. But of course, earlier this week
the government said they wanted to move to buy the
strike drones to drop bombs on targets, and it wants
to get them locally if they can. But just reading
the story, and it turns out some of our Defense
Force personnel are currently in California testing these drones and
other military tech. So if you're in the military right now,

(21:38):
what is it like testing some of this new tech?
Is it pretty straightforward or does that training need to
be incorporated a lot more broadly in our defense force?

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Hey guys, I think what the reporter is talking about
is mainly the facilities I got out twenty five years
ago in the barracks, and some of the shooting ranges,
et cetera will well pass their use by date back then,
having been built in World or two. Soldiers will always
need to learn the traditional basics. But you shouldn't be
expected to live in unfit conditions. You have joined up
to serve, not to live in squalis.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
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Speaker 2 (23:33):
Thank you very much, Raileen. So we're talking about a
report that has been presented to Defense Minister Chris Pink's
office showing or arguing that our military training is not
fit for purpose anymore. There's four main problems they see.
One is it's the same training we've done for thirty years.
The other big problem is our aging infrastructure. Some of
that equipment harks back to World War II. So do

(23:55):
you think we radically need to change how we train
our soldiers here? In New Zealand OER eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty And if you have been in the
military in recent times, what was the training like and
how do you think we need to modernize if at all?
Tell us nine to ninety two is the text. Plenty
of texts coming through this one says kiddo, guys, I
think what the report is talking about is sorry, this

(24:18):
one here like actual combat New Zealand troops saw in
Vietnam from nineteen sixty five to nineteen seventy two. All
total respect for our troops who served in Vietnam and
then had to find another war when they got home,
who were treated poorly by many people. Our troops and
our soldiers are some of the best in the world.
Clearly that training has an impact on that reputation. So

(24:39):
I'm with Ken, we should stick to how we do
it because we are some of the best in the world,
can't you.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
You know, like anything, you keep the basics of what
you do and then whilst keeping up to date with
what's happening around the world. Yeah, because I do get
the feeling that the change in combat we're heading a
stage of rapid change in how combat is carried out now. Yeah,

(25:05):
I think a lot of that old school hardware is
not as useful as it once was, because especially the big, big,
old expensive stuff, right, Yeah, because you can just put
up a five hundred dollars drone yeah, or drone swarms yep,
via one hundred and fifty drones of the situation.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, we've seen that in Iran and.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
It costs less than a single missile.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah. What do you say though, Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Karl? What's
your thoughts?

Speaker 11 (25:32):
Yeah, mate, I'm just ringing up. Oh an ex soldier
as well, now left as a sex commander, and I'm
just ringing up to back what Ken was saying. When
it comes to the basics, technology is an awesome thing
and you've got to adapt to the times. However, you
can't get away from an infantry soldier is, which is
what you've seen in Ukraine when those poor buggers are

(25:52):
running around and they having been stalked by drones. You've
got to know your basics. You've got to know things
like navigation. If your GPS bugger's out, then, like King said,
some people just get lost. Whereas you've got to know
what you meant getic variationist. You got to know how
to read the top of rother map, what contour lines mean,

(26:13):
how to use your compass. You've got to know how
many paces you walk in one hundred meters. You got
to know what your bias does when you're going through
the bush, so you don't go left the night too
much because you can get off target. Those are basics
that any commander that says today that's not good enough
shouldn't be commanding, because if you do not have your basics,

(26:33):
you are not good at your job. If you've got
your basics squared away, you can adapt to any new
environment or technology that comes along, right, and the kiwis
we're renowned for having bugger all but kicking ass okay,
And then when we come across things like say the Americans,

(26:57):
for example, and a lot of respect for the Americans,
but bear technology, they concentrate on one thing, whereas in the
New Zealand Infant Tree you are cross trained in many
aspects of what needs to be done to create a
strong working team. So a riflement is not just a rifleman.

(27:21):
They'll have multiple jobs if they could do if they
need to do so when they're going on about how
the training is obsolete for thirty years, blah blah blah,
you cannot get away from what the basics are. You've
got to be able to carry a pack. You're going
to be able to carry a pack first line ammunition,
and you're going to be able to carry that pack
for a good thirty plus kilometers a day for days

(27:44):
on end. You're going to be able to navigate. When
it comes to weaponry, a rifle is a rifle. It
strips and assembles exactly the same way. You learn how
to use it because that is your Oh they used
to call it your wife or your girlfriend. You know,
it never left your side. So with Ukraine, what's going

(28:04):
on over there? We send soldiers over to the United
Kingdom to train some Ukrainian soldiers to go into combat.
They need to return that faver now and they need
to send some of their soldiers back to train us
on drone technology. You can learn everything you want to
learn from the Yanks. You can learn everything you want
to learn from a book. Both the best source of
information is from those that were there at the Cold

(28:26):
Face doing it, and on infrastructure. When I first joined up,
there were barracks there from the Second World War. They
were like you'd walk into a ten man room and
you'd walk downhill to your bed space. So I've demonised
all of those down in Burnham. And since they brought
the guys back from Singapore they built a new place

(28:46):
up in Parmaster North. There are new barracks. There are
still some old storage buildings around, but I don't see
how that's going to upset your training. You know, a
roof over some stores is the roof over some stores.
But just sticking up what Ken said, any commander there
wants to go away from the basics of being an

(29:07):
infantry soldier should not be a commander because without those
basics you're stuffed.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hey, Ken Carls, when when you see Ukraine footage just
all over the YouTube, imagine you've you've watched some of
it and the drone warfare, and you know from your training,
what what what's different from how you would deal with
with drones than how you would deal with I guess
you know on the grounds risks or or you know

(29:37):
helicopter and other air you know, other air weaponry. How
different do you think that is?

Speaker 11 (29:46):
Well, I think the TSD is going to be coming
out from hearing a buzzing noise. It's going to send
people through the roof. You can hide from a helicopter,
you can hide from a plane, the basics once again, camouflage,
no that you can do all that for those drones.
I am so glad I am not a smogron now

(30:07):
because those d is that the guys are going to be,
they're going to be. I mean, suicide rates are bad
enough as it is in the military. If you're in
that sort of situation, you hear a buzzing noise, yeah, nah,
now that's a completely different ball.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
I take my head off to those bull buggers over
there doing it because those drones, they could just pop
up out of it anyway. You can hear a helicopter, you
can hear a plane, you know, you can hear a tank,
you can hear a vehicle. You know, you need can hide,
But those drons they can just set up there like
god knows how high out they can go, and they
can a spot you and then well you can see

(30:45):
what they're trying to do, and the Russians and the
Ukrainians trying to shoot them out of the sky. But
I've got the technology now to counter that. And that's
what I mean. We need to bring those boys over
here and train householdiers on how to counter drone to tax.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Even your target skyle, because when I watched this footage,
there's a lot of shooting upwards. It's slow moving, you know,
leaning around from behind the tree and shooting up upwards
at the drone. So yeah, that's.

Speaker 11 (31:13):
That's like there's a civilian saying to a police officer,
why didn't you shoot them in the hand with the gun?
You go for center mass. You're trying to shoot a
little we drone out of the stove with a five
five six round or a seven point sixteen rounds which
basically is like a three eight good luck.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
Shotgun.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
Shotgun maybe, But they've got those anti drandic drones. I
guess when you see so many wires on the battlefield now, yeah,
because they were blocking these signals.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Now it's all white, which is everywhere that the five
er octor cable is absolutely everywhere across Ukraine. It's it's insane.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
Yeah, so's we need to buy those drones without a doubt.
But those few years ago, because we've got such a
massive economic zone, we need to get some of those
predators that the Yanks have got because they can go
out there and fly around our economic zone which is massive,
and there are people poaching like the Chinese and all that,
and then that's up there. They can record it all

(32:10):
and then we can send a boat to intercept. But
they didn't because you know, who wants to predator flying around?
You think, all what's gonna And you could sit in
christ I mean you could even lease them up the Yanks.
I've got an American Air Force base then Christy at
the airport. You can have a couple of Yanks sitting
there employed to fly those trains around the economics. It's
a little bit of a cooperation with each other. But yeah,

(32:32):
we definitely need the drain technology because that's the way
it's going. But yeah, I certainly want to be wouldn't
want to be. I mean, being a front was awesome
in the Bush, you know, you navigation skills, we were
known to be really really good. But then it goes
to Afghanistan. No such thing as a front line. Anyone

(32:53):
can get killed, even if you're a medic or or
or an accountant. You know, like you've got to go.
It's just yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:01):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 11 (33:02):
I wouldn't want to be in there now. That's yeah,
I take my head off.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I think if you're called Carl, thank you your insights,
fascinating conversation.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
So the basic training and credit important, But let's see
if we can get a couple of those Ukrainians to
come back here and train us up a little bit
on what they're dealing with the drones.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And a couple of predator drones as well. Maybe oh
one hundred and eighty ten eighty are you with, Carl,
if you're currently in the military, what sort of tech
are you dealing with? And what is the training like?
Tell us it is fourteen to two backary, surely the.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks,
they'd be eleven to two, Carl, from a Minister of defense,
is this Texa?

Speaker 2 (33:42):
He was pretty good? Carl is right.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Cement the fundamentals and build on those dependent upon the
type of warfare as it emerges. That's from Max who
is ex military, And this from Mickey gold Mill, who
was Rocky's Rockies coach three years ago.

Speaker 12 (34:03):
You were supernatural. He was hired in RS Nasty and yeah,
just cast iron job. But then the worst thing happened
that could happen to any failure. You got civilized.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
That's the thing, the worst thing that can happen to you.
It can happen to any fighter you got civilized.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
We all need a Mickey in our lives. What a trainer.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I don't know if that really applies to military training,
because part of military training is becoming disciplined.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yes, yeah, yeah, it's kind of the opposite.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, a couple of semi applies, semi doesn't.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yes, a couple of teaks here, you get a guy's drone.
Teak has advanced so fast that modern warfare is having
to write a book as they go. It was only
a couple of years ago where a soldier's real threat
on the battlefield was one hundred thousand dollar jevelin. Now
it's a fifty dollars grenades trapped with a thirty dollars drone.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, I mean a lot of that when a lot
of that watched that, A lot of Ukrainian footage. You've
got these that they look like they're down at the
model of airplane range, right, you know, they're standing there
just letting these these drones go off and just absolutely
messing with really expensive Russian hardware.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, terrifying. Right, keep those seats coming through and taking
your calls. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, it is
nine to two back.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
In the month, Mad Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen
Tyler Adams Afternoons news Talks be.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It is seven to two, Tim. What's your thoughts mate?

Speaker 13 (35:38):
You're good, so good.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
So you guys started off with the question about what
the money they're going to spend to do while you're up,
Wasn't it all.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Was about the infrastructure, aging infrastructure in military cat.

Speaker 7 (35:51):
Yeah, yeah, because there's another budget sort of this last week,
twenty seven years here, and you can't get people to
go there anymore. And it's not just the infrastructure. It's
it's because nowadays mum works, well you know, the wife works,
a husband works. There's no employment up there, and if
you want good schooling for your kids and all that

(36:12):
sort of stuff, right, it's not there either. So that's
something else that they need to consider. Like the guys
that have been talking about the training and the drains
and all that there are hundred pcent correct, and you
a soldier schools are soldier schools and they get it
hunted by fools and technology and they get any better
and wear some of the best in the world. But
the wire itself is a fool little place in the eighties.

(36:32):
But you can't get people to move up there. Now.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Is there any because you know back in the day
and you see this a little bit with the with
the housing and you know, families moving on there and
education happening for the kids, There is any of that
still going to father?

Speaker 6 (36:49):
Know it is?

Speaker 7 (36:50):
Well, they've brought four brand new houses here. They did
up about another four modernize them. Yeah, they're like state houses.
They're good thikingness and they're after more modern ones here.
But it's because if a soldier gets paced there and
he takes his wife, she can't find a job. She
can maybe be a cleaner or working them right that
you might be a lawyer or right, and there's no work.

(37:13):
So it's a location. But then on the other end,
warrior has got to be in that location to train soldiers.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, I mean, how do you solve that? You can't have.
You can't have it in the middle of Christy.

Speaker 7 (37:23):
It's a problem of defensive had for a long time.
I think, so during the barrack, during up the training
facilities up and that's all good. It used to be
good when there are lots of units here because it's
quite small now. There was quite a few military units here,
so you have more people. The school was backed, you know,
all that sort of stuff, And whether they ever go
back to that, I probably can't see it because people
they moved people out because people didn't want to get

(37:45):
post to the wars.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Right, yeah, I mean that's another interesting part of it,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
It has to be a realistic option for someone's life.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
That's right. If you're shifting your whole family there and
you've got kids, you need to think about that element
as well, right yeah, yeah, good, cool, Thank you very much.
To a couple of texts to the headlines. This one sees, guys,
my son is currently at boot camp in the United
States training to be a marine. I know very little
about modern warfare, and it certainly seems very high tech.
But after boot camp and infantry training, he will train

(38:12):
for a selected specialty which involves plotting the direction of
fire and reading radar, etc. He needs a good math
score for this role. And while the equipment might be
high tech, they need math and old school plotting charts
and so on. In case Wi FI goes down.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
We have one dollar to spend on our military for
every one thousand that the big countries have. There is
no point having five helicopters and three planes, etc. We
need a home guard. We use our small budget to
build a home guard with five hundred thousand people trained
and uniformed in the cupboard, with a uniform of the copboard.
Purchase asymmetric weapons and assets to weapons on care. Gorilla

(38:44):
tactics have destroyed Russia's mighty military. That's what I think
we should do too as well.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
A says my interesting points.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Five hundred thousand of us with uniforms in the cupboard.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Okay, ready to go at any time. Okay, terrifying, great
discussion though news is coming up. Stay right here the big.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Stories, the league issues, the big trends, and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk Savy.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
A very good afternoons You welcome back into the show.
It is seven past too so buying secondhand goods is
having a massive positive impact on communities in New Zealand,
both economically and socially. So story on RNZ showing a
massive boom and the number of people buying second hand goods,
particularly from op shots that have injected around seventy eight

(39:33):
million dollars into social environment programs and initiatives and back
into the program. But op shops up and down the
country have crunched the numbers on how many items they
actually sold. So of the forty six point nine million
secondhand items sold over twenty twenty five twenty twenty six,
clothing and textiles were the most popular, with twenty two

(39:55):
point six million items sold. But that number again forty
six point nine million second hand items sold just a
k opshops alone in the last year.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Well, that's impressive.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
It is impressive. So the question of I've got for
you over the next hour is how much products and
items are you buying secondhand? Is there a reason that
this has had such a big upswing? Part of that
is some things are a lot more expensive at the moment,
But is there still that trend that secondhand is better
buying brand new, not just for economic reasons, but for

(40:28):
the fact that it is better for a whole raft
of other situations as well.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Well.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
One of my sons is always saying things like I'm
heading out shopping with my girlfriend. So there's you know,
he's nineteen. So there's always been that side of it, right,
that people actually want to opshop because they like the
kind of closing get Yeah, how much I'll be interested
to know that people that work in op shops, how
many people are coming through and stripping it of all
the flash stuff and then taking it to stores in

(40:56):
central Auckland or central Wellington and you know retro clothing
the resellers. Yeah, so you go into an op shop
that's a charitable operation. Is this how it works? So
you go, you go around, find an op shop yep. Yeah,
flip through all the jackets, you find the one that's fashionable,
buy it for fifty cents yep, and then go and

(41:18):
sell it on crarying a Happy Road for one hundred and.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Fifty spot off. That's what a lot of people do
that if they managed to find a particular classy brand.
I don't know what's a classy brand for most people.
I'm out of the loop, but something that traditionally sells
for three hundred bucks, and then someone, out of the
goodness of their heart, says, I don't need this anymore.
I've taken it down to the op shop. If some
chicky bugger finds that and they pay I don't know,
a couple of bucks, then that's exactly what they do

(41:43):
the old resellers.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Doesn't that win win though, because the charity shop gets
the money and then someone else gets the money gets
to sell it to someone.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Else who does wins. I suppose.

Speaker 13 (41:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Yeah, I just have a job in London where containers
of clothes would arrive in from the US, bomber jackets
and all that kind of stuff. Nice, and our job
was to go through and make piles of stuff that
be maybe fast to be sold. Yeah right, So just
spend all day just going through that one could? That
one could? That's a slightly go the fun job.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
No, horrible, stinky, horrible job.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Also, you know, like a container was arriving and you'd
be throwing out ninety percent of it, so it's been
shipped in. Yeah, but selling that kind of fashionable retro
stuff in London was so valuable that it was worth
just buying polling just the whole container in yep, and
then throwing ninet percent of it out. Yeah, ninety five
percent of out something like that. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call? So how much of your stuff you buying
second hand? Tell us? Nine two ninety two is the
text number?

Speaker 11 (42:47):
Is?

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, it is tim pass two. When we come back,
we a chat with Brandon, but that will be very shortly.
But nineteen nine two is that text number?

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Beckon the moment your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen
Taylor Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
us talk.

Speaker 9 (43:04):
Said, be.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
It is thirteen too. So the number of kiwis buying
secondhand goods has exploded in the recent year. If that's
you give us called eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
what are you buying secondhand? And also what would you
never buy brand new? Nine two ninety two is the
text number?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Is it true?

Speaker 3 (43:22):
What Peter C is here in the text, You guys
are exaggerating the op shop thing, are we? Well, we're
reading the the analysis from the story. Yeah, might be exaggerated.
I mean it's one of those things isn't it. So
what's the number. The number was eight hundred and forty
four million.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
So this was just in the last year alone, there
were forty six point nine million secondhand items re sold
in op shops alone.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So isn't there a figure that eight hundred and forty
four million consumer savings and estimated eight hundred and forty
four million consume million dollars consumer savings and reached. Yes, yeah, yeah,
but that assumes maybe this is what Peter's talking about.
That assumes that they would have bought their equivalent items new,
but they may not have a boarded anything at all.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, very true. That is the other side of it.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
That's one of the things, like those rubbish numbers we've
got about TikTok the other day, So these huge assumptions. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, obviously op shops and community stores are not
evil like TikTok, So we're not gonna haveslem, We're not
going to drill down. It's hard on their numbers as
the community.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Good overall like that.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, someone here is saying you can't find anything good
at a knop shop, Well, a lot of people are
depends depends what's in there. Yeah, just because Linda does.
Is Londa where she say? She says, I buy everything
from op shops and set for my undies. I'm just
trying to find the text. Yeah, but yeah, she buys
everything but undy. So she's definitely find out is.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
There one there or this person? Seventy percent of my
wardrobeer's second hand. I'm a forty one year old. Eighty
percent of my daughter's wardrobe's seeck in hand, and she's
two years old.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
I can't be bothered selling anything secondhand. I've got this
couch and it's quite good. Yeah, and it's sitting in
my garage. I want to get rid of it, and
I just do not have the energy to sell it.
I can't buy the right We'll just give it away
for free. What kind of couch is it? I mean,
I'm interested already. Do you need a catch?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, I'll give you.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
I bought it for fifteen hundred dollars. It's not a
very flash one. I bought it for fifteen hundred dollars
or three two seater about two years ago, all right,
can I And it's sitting upright in my garage.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
So it's obviously a pain in the ass for you.
So I've got leverage here. Yeah, I'll give you twenty dollars. Okay,
I'll give it to you for free if you come
and get it. Okay, all right, then you drive a
hard bargain, mate, I was hoping you'll deliver it. I'm
not delivering for twenty bucks. I'll ever think about that.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Do you need a couch?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I'd love a seeking couch, actually would. Yeah, absolutely, you
can have it, okay, right. See see this is great.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
This is how works, this is how charity works.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, Brendan, mate.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Oh it's Brenton.

Speaker 14 (45:52):
How you guys?

Speaker 15 (45:54):
I was in the fashion industry for thirty five years,
so I've seen every fashion trend imaginable.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Over that period of time.

Speaker 15 (45:59):
And what the whole opshop thing. I actually think it's
going to evolve into something very cool and very on
tren because my wife and I've just come back from
around Asia. We spent a bit of time in Japan
and it's not off shots secondhand there. It's actually a
whole industry called vintage clothing. And the stores that they've
got there and the places where they're sold, you could

(46:21):
that's where all the cork kids are. You know, they're
hanging out there's a street called Takasheti Street by they
name Matters in Tokyo, and the cool kids are there.
The stores with the second hand slash vintage clothing uber cool.
The product is displayed, it's it's beautifully, it all looks fantastic.
It's all retro and it's a cool thing to do

(46:43):
for these kids to be wearing it. And that's kind
of the way it's coming here. I think the kids
are getting sick of the whole shine slash Ali express
thing that you know, it's in and out in five minutes,
it's the last of ten minutes. All these chain stores,
it's all disposable everything. I won't name any stores, but
the store the stores. For every one clothed, one garment

(47:05):
is sold, they're probably dumping five into landfall. And I
think that's creating a huge, a huge backlash in the industry.
And the kids of today are they're aware of that
sort of thing and they don't like it.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Well, what kind of stuff did you see in Japan
in the windows? Is it sort of vintage sports jerseys
that that kind of thing, because I always think I
always think about Dickey's and old band t shirts and
that kind of stuff or what is it.

Speaker 15 (47:30):
Yeah, it's more sort of you know, branded T shirts
you might have seen from the from the early two
thousands and nineties. It's sort of logo stuff like that
or as. It's just very very subtle, unbranded type of clothing.
And there's sort of a swing away from the whole
super you know, look at me, I'm wearing a T
shirt with a big brand on. It makes you think
that I bought it somewhere expensive, but most people think

(47:50):
you've just bought it from you know, online for ten bucks.
And yeah, so it's very very sort of a lot
of denim, huge amount of denim. I mean, you know
the in New Zealand, the major denim brands, you know,
so many have disappeared that you know, they're sort of
you're sort of going back to those brands that you
know you had a by secondhand in them, because you know,
there's normal Lee here. There's no more Wrangler here, there's

(48:12):
no more Lee Cooper here.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
You know, I think Dickie's went Wranglers used to be great.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, A big fan of Wranglers back in the day.
I didn't know they just spared.

Speaker 15 (48:22):
That was my first That was my first job in
nineteen eighty was a sales rep for Wrangler Jeans. They
were great jeans.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
I think those Do you think those Japanese companies are
importing that stuff and from the States or is it
or are they collecting it from around Japan?

Speaker 13 (48:43):
A good question.

Speaker 15 (48:44):
I think it's a bit of both. I mean there
is a there is a huge sort of vintage market
and sort of underground on the stakes as well. They
tried to set up a chain here called l A
Vintage and a few of the Mauls and they just
didn't get access to enough product.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
To make the Bible.

Speaker 15 (48:57):
But it was it was all that sort of thing,
you know that the good sort of heavy cotton T
shirts with the American brands on it. Are that Abercrombie
and Fiction, all those sort of you know, the brands
that have been around for ages and a sort of
go up and down and whether.

Speaker 13 (49:09):
They're trendy or not.

Speaker 15 (49:11):
But yeah, it's that whole that whole vintage thing is
I think is going to be quite huge here.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
And they used to come, Yeah, thank you, cal Brenton.
You think Matt might appreciate this, But just thirty minutes
ago I got the original Castle grayscale for five bucks
from an op shop. I'm always finding gems.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
You beauty, see this is the good stuff?

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Are you into? You're into the old heath?

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Is it the job of the op shop if they
get something like that right, I guess they haven't noticed
that they could. They could put that on trade me
or any number of those collectible sites and make a
lot more than five bucks. So if you, if you,
if you're running an op shop, really severally severally a
word it works, you know where you go. If you're

(49:54):
a savvy runner of an op shop, then shouldn't you
be making more than five bucks from your from your
castle grayscale?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
How does it work? I mean, if you're work in
an op shop, how do your price things? I mean
I know a lot of them are volunteers. But you
see something come in.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Get ten bucks? Yeah you should. You should get a
consultant and once a week to go round and go
because they are those people are coming in. So those
people are coming through and going that's worth a lot more.
They're selling that jacket for five bucks, so I can
get three hundred bucks for it. They're going through and
sweetening it, right.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And then house appraiser.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Yeah, so perhaps op shops aren't making enough money, so
we're celebrating them here. But are they living money out
on the table?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
No, it sounds like it if the guy got Original
Castle Grayscull for five bars.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I mean, I don't want to hassle someone for working
hard for charity, but if you could maximize those profits
for good, Yeah, why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that
number to call just before we play some messages? Nice
sticks here? See is Kido Mettentola the entire waiting room
at Pacific Radiology. You're listening to the show, so be
careful what you say. They can see right through you. Clever,
very clever. See what you did there?

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Hey, guys, you ain't been op shopping lately. They are
getting expensive from time to time. Have two or four
dollar clothes, but not label ones. I like to opshop
as I like being a different girl. Two dollars to
four dollars of this some very expensive.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, oh one hundred eighty ten eighty, So was Brenton Wright.
Is this trend of people actually wanting decent clothes catching
on here in New Zealand? That has seen this big
boost in people buying second hand clothing and going op shopping.
Tell us in nine two ninety two is the text number.
It is twenty one past two. We'll be back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
everything in between. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons, Used Talks EDB.
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons Call oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on Used Talk SEDB.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
It is twenty three pass two. There's a lot more
people buying secondhand goods and going into op shops. So
do you feel better about buying something secondhand when you
know it's a win win, particularly when it comes to
the op shop? So eight hundred eighty ten eighties number.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
The sex It says, if you buy secondhand clothing, you
look second rate, you look broke. I see people coming
in to apply for work looking like Kurt Cobain. Buy
at least one outfit that doesn't make you look like
a drug addict, or prepare to spend the rest of
your life on a benefit like.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
The loser you dress as Wow brutal.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I mean, you know I'm not going to hire anyone
dressed like Kirk Cobaine. Horrific.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
It's not on trend anymore, is it. I mean that
was that was as a bag is it?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely horrific. Cardigan like terrible jeans and with
a cardiovical and some Chuck Taylor's with a with a
whole a hole in the toe.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Is that the lock? What do you say to that
texture if you buy from op shops or second hands?
Tell us?

Speaker 3 (52:48):
But that makes sense, right, So you'd have a different
outfit if you're going through your job. You don't. You
don't head along there in your in your full classic
op chop output.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
No, that's just the weekend look, isn't it. You've got
your weekday lock hopefully?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
And what's that? What's that smell that comes from up shops?
Is it mothballs? This is particular there's a particular sort
of arm petty smell that comes from up shops?

Speaker 16 (53:08):
Is that through?

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Tell us? Nineteen nine two? What's your thoughts?

Speaker 6 (53:12):
Matey mate?

Speaker 17 (53:13):
Going?

Speaker 14 (53:14):
Yeah, about probably fifteen years ago, my father in law
died and we didn't actually do have all his stuff,
so we grabbed all his clothes and that out there
at the cupboard and threw them on the floor and
they said, oh, there's anything there you like, you can
have it, and we said, oh, no, it's not really
our sort of stuff. So we were just going to
put in a bag and drop it at the ops
our port at the Salvos, And for some reason we
decided to have a bit of a lock and we

(53:34):
ended up finding fifteen grand and all these jackets that
he'd stashed.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (53:39):
He was one of these old guys. He didn't trust banks,
so every couple of weeks he'd bring home one hundred
dollars here hundred dollars he'd stash it and jackets and stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Wow.

Speaker 14 (53:47):
And yeah, we ended up fifteen grand we found in
all his clothes.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
You would have gone through those twice, wouldn't you. So
what sort of sized lots were they stored?

Speaker 14 (53:56):
And were oh just little bundles, mate, Because he used
to get out a couple of hundred at a time
and there'd be sort of five hundred and that one
and four hundred and that one and two hundred and
that one, and he had obviously forgotten he put it
in there. You know, we didn't even know that he
was doing it. New founded this money in his clothes.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
And did he and did he leave much behind?

Speaker 10 (54:15):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Did he did he have much in the bank agound
as well?

Speaker 14 (54:17):
Oh yeah, no, pinky wow, But yeah, he just just
doesn't He always said, oh, something might happen on the weekend,
I need to go.

Speaker 13 (54:25):
To the bank.

Speaker 14 (54:25):
Yeah yeah, and it might be closed. So on a
Friday you'd say, can you take me down and give
me a couple of hundred?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
And wow, if you had just bundled those up and
you know, bags and taking it down to the op
shop and doped it, dumped it on them to go through,
they would have been I wonder. I mean, if you're
working a charity.

Speaker 14 (54:42):
That person in the op shop have found them or
were they just hung them up? And then some poor
bugger buys it for two dollars and finds five hundred.

Speaker 13 (54:48):
In the pocket. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Well, I mean that would be kind of good. Wuldn't
it Some some down on the older person rocks through
by someself an old man's pair of pants and then.

Speaker 14 (54:59):
Surprise in the pocket.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yeah, I mean that's all happened to us though, isn't it?
When you when you go through a jacket worn for
a while and you find a sweet little twenty in there.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah yeah, yeah, mate, yeah yeah, whatever, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
And great story.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, gout on your former father in law. Oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number two call?
And nine to nine two is the text.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
There's another thing that you know they're talking before about
me that called it before, Tim who's talking about what
the kids are into now? And kids are really into
old school cameras now right? This is this is this
place that I went to in Saint Kevin's Arcade and
Auckland called Junction, and it's just full of old cameras.
And I was talking to the guy behind the counter

(55:44):
and we're talking like digital cameras as well as film cameras,
but like digital cameras from like two thousand and nine,
two thousand and eight, sort of antiques.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah right, they are, you know, they just getting up there.
So why why are they into these old cameras? They
don't know.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
They love the way they take pictures. They love like
a digital camera from two thousand and eight or something,
just that the little lens comes out. That they just
hate phones. They're just so of the technology that's being
shoved down their throats for so long. They just like
something for physical It's the same reason why young people
are going back to CDs and records. Yeah, they just

(56:18):
they're just so sick of everything being and your humiliating phone.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
That must be a big part of all these young
cool kids going to op shops there because where do
you find that stuff apart from clearly there's a camera store.
But if you want old CDs, I mean the op
shops your placed right old tvds? Yeah, see, I'll be
interested enough.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
Op shops are wising up to the fact that kids
are back on the CDs because you're you know, you're useless,
you know you're you're your okay computer, Radiohead CD. It's
suddenly worth a lot of money waking up. The price
might have basically been landfall, but now it's worth quite
a bit.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call get a jake. Hello, you very good.
So you've done pretty well out of lop shopping.

Speaker 18 (56:58):
Yeah, I've done not too chevy. So the key is
is knowing your brands, right, That is the key because
a lot of the op shop well I've noticed recently
that Save Mart, they're clicking onto it that you you know,
you know the brand that some things have some value,

(57:18):
and so yeah, you go in and do a bit
of research, like I've gone in and went to an
SPA one and they had no idea that they had
a vintage Italian designer Saline yachting jacket on their wreck, right,
And so you.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Went up and told them and you said, listen, listen,
you're selling this too cheaply. You need you just sitting
on a gold mine here, fellas.

Speaker 18 (57:45):
No, So I went and bought it, and I told
them after I bought.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
It, okay, right at that.

Speaker 18 (57:52):
Well, they were happy that someone had told them that
they should probably be doing a better job at looking
out at the value of some of the clothing.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Yeah, that's the question I was asking before whether they
do any training on that, because you know things like
Dickey's right, for example, that that always seems to sell
pretty well. And I mean this is on the lower
level of things, right, but if you've got some Dicky
Dicky Stickles trousers, you'd see them hanging on a venture
store rack.

Speaker 17 (58:20):
Right.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (58:22):
So I've noticed so certain ones and not on the
ball so much, but so like save marks, I've noticed
the starting to click on so like when I used
to go back there a few years back, I'd go
and see like an Eddie ass track, certain five dollars
dollars on the rack for like seventy eighty.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yes, y, yeah, you've you've spoke my memory. Jacas we
wanted into an op shop in Wanaka just have a
Wee mosey, very very nice op shop. But there was
a shirt that I saw hanging up and add this
crazy sort of patting on it and color, and they
had a WE sign on it and it was for
ninety bucks. I was like, Jesus, that's steep. But it
said a John Lennon original clothing brand, not actually the

(59:02):
shirt that he wore, but clearly they were onto it
when they saw John Lennon label, one of the original
clothing labels that he started, and could see that it
was worth some some big money.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Wow, I don't even know neither.

Speaker 18 (59:13):
I there you go, Yeah, well there's some recycled boutique
is they operate on that front.

Speaker 11 (59:20):
They're sort of like a design of vintage op shop store.

Speaker 19 (59:24):
So they get all second hand stuff and but they
price it up quite a bit because they know what
they're working with.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Yeah's vision Street where retro is that called? If you
found a vision street, any kind of a vision street
where a T shirt one of the classics, would that
be would that be worth buying the op shop for
and selling it in a vintage shop?

Speaker 17 (59:45):
Possibly?

Speaker 18 (59:45):
Yep, you what you're looking for, and it is the quality.

Speaker 19 (59:49):
The reason why they've all made a comeback at the
old guildens and like car hearts or the work.

Speaker 18 (59:55):
Where it's all big, big time now because it's the quality.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Yeah right, yeah, So you don't research on the fly, Jake,
when you go in there and you might see something
out there and then you pull your phone out, so
I'll just save a wee look at the potential resale value.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Yes, that's the key. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Do they know the difference between pleather and leather? Yeah,
because that's a big mistake people make, right, you got
you've got you've got a leather jacket and amongst the
leather jackets, yeah, and they're all the same price. You know,
this one's actually worth five hundred plus Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, Jake, Thank you very much mate. Great to hear
from your oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty If
you like, Jake, have you made some good resale value
off some of the stuff in the op shops nineteen
ninety if you want to send a text because Vision.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Street where you just to go back to that topic,
go raise with Jake used to be very cool in
my day. And I heard that someone uncovered a container
of unopened Vision streetwear from the era and so it
was all basically brand new. This was an Auckland, so

(01:00:59):
that someone just came across brand new Vision streetwear, but
that had just been sitting in the container for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So where was the container just on warehouse somewhere?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yeah, were house unreal or maybe it was a container
load of I don't know if it was still in
the container. So it actually just makes sense it would
still being a container. So they just found this stuff
that was brand new but had just been sitting there
brand new for twenty years, was in perfect condition. And
then someone was like, wow, Vision Street wears back. Let's
get it out there good times.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Yeah, oh one hundred and eighty ten eight years. The
number to call nine two nine two is the text
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Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Thank you very much, railing. So we're talking about the
massive boost and people buying secondhand, particularly from opshops. So
oh eight hundred. We heard from Jake before he's done
very well out of op shops. What was the best
thing that you found or bought from an OP shop?
A nine two nine two's the teach number as well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
This is this is the thing, isn't it. This is
the balance because the best thing that you find in
an op shop that's absolutely incredible and underpriced in the
in the op shop is because they haven't identified it's worth.
So do you have moral obligation to go up to
them and say you should be charging a lot more
for this castle grayscale than you are.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
I don't think so, right, I think first and first serve.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
And this says the pricing is a hard thing. A
lot a lot of things sell online as well as
in the store, and manager who has a wide variety
of pricing skills is becoming a huge asset. But there
will always be things that slip through. But that is
often the key to people op shopping getting the bargains.
The biggest cost of the op shops dumping unsaleable clothes. Yeah,
I mean that is true, isn't it? Because if if

(01:04:03):
the op shop always charged the full price, then there
wouldn't be the little nuggets of goodness. And you never
know what someone's going to really really like, so they
go looking for that thing, and then they find this
other thing. They go that's going to be my new style.
I'm going to wear old man's undies on the outside
of my genes from now on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Fair enough to own. It's the sticks to quickly, says Matt.
What a load to be? Is that text? Do you
read out before? I've been a volunteer of a rather
large op shop for over ten years. There has never
been a smell. I don't know there is a unique odor.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Otherwise I wouldn't have worked there for so long. It
costs over one hundred and twenty thousand a year for
us to dispose of other people's dirty, smelly junk. Really,
because people are too lazy to take their own rubbish
to the dump. We are wised up about CDs and
vinyl records. Don't be so hard on op shops. They
wouldn't exist if it wasn't for all the senior volunteers
who work very very hard there, Robin. I'm not being

(01:04:56):
hard on op shops. I think they're great. Yeah, I
was just reading out of text from someone who said
that they were stinky. But there is an op shop smell.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It's not necessarily a bad smell to stop people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I think it's because there's just so many different items
in there, that's right, So it all sort of comes
together and it's not a bad smell. But it smells
a little bit like mothballs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
A little bit musty.

Speaker 13 (01:05:14):
Maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Yeah, it's unique.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah, but I mean that's all. That's all part of it.
But that's that one hundred and twenty thousands depressing, isn't it.
It is because the worst people on planet Earth are
the people that just dump their stuff out in front
of a op shop in the weekends rather than dealing
with themselves, pretending that they've got something of value that
the people in the store can can get something out of.
But really they're just making their crap someone else's problets.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Scar, Yeah, Bruce, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Good mate? How are you boys? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Good good? Nice to chat with you, mate. So op
shopping is it something you do a bit.

Speaker 16 (01:05:47):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
Time to time I hold the bag for the missus,
you know, but yeah, I just want to ring up
and see that. I totally endorse it, mate. It's true
what they say, someone else's trash is someone else's treasure.
Just a quick story for you. My missus has always
in and out of the shops. We've got six children,

(01:06:08):
and so I mean that's that's part and past Oliver too,
and somehow, yeah, thanks man. She somehow seems to find
the scores, man, like like top label stuff. Like there's
been times I've come home. I'm not a I'm not
a big chubby person, but there's been times I've come
home and she's gotten like Warrior jerseys and stuff like that,

(01:06:31):
and I'm trying to squeeze into it, you know, just
because it's just so smaller, you know, for one of
the sons. And and I'm like, damn, there's some of
them my conforts on them.

Speaker 13 (01:06:40):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
But yeah, I mean the schools are out there. Just
a quick story. I know you guys have got real busy,
but yeah, So going back to the last All Black game,
it was a Bleedterslow Cup game at Eden Park and
it was the Yeah, the recent blittersload his series, never

(01:07:01):
been to a game mate. We got shouted two tickets
for me and my oldest son. It was just I
knew it was just going to be the bottom. So
excited to go two nights before I'm a trade. So yeah,
paint on everything. And the message goes, just try your luck,
you know, pop down to the op shops, have a
quick look. You might find something. If you don't, then

(01:07:22):
you know, we'll have to get you something. So I
went down, had a cook skizer. At the first shop,
I went in, man, and right there on the shelf
was a well I think they were number fours or
series spores and ones mint condition, and I'm a big
time skater. They just looked at Bee's knees. I couldn't

(01:07:43):
believe it. I picked them up and I thought, your side,
something wrong with them? My size? I already knew, I
just and I was scooping them out, like what's wrong
with them?

Speaker 13 (01:07:54):
Four bucks?

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
And I looked over my shoulder and I saw the
lady at the counter, which I knew.

Speaker 13 (01:07:59):
I knew.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
I went over and these are only four bucks and
she goes, yeah, yeah, and she grabbed them and the
front of the of one of the shoes. Was just
talking a little bit, you know, but they are very old, true,
but midd condition, and I just said, I'll still take them.
She goes off, Bruce, so I can't say four bucks,
you know, your missus and Hill at times. As you

(01:08:20):
gave them to me for free, I shot down the
road like a like a red upper drain pipe, brought
a quick set of proxy residents from the warehouse, fixed
them up and I had the meanest chicks the next
day off of the All Black Game, and the weird
thing was made. I'm not into basketball, but some of
my mates that seen me wearing these shoes, where how

(01:08:40):
did you get those from?

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
They're like been to jazz And then they started bringing
them up on their phones and brow you can still
buy them secondhand for nearly a couple of hundred bucks,
you know. And I was just cool man. You know,
the schools are out there, mate, they're out there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
I love that, thanks to you, cool Bruce.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
What a great man. I love his style. But as
he says, you know, the schools are out there. If
you find a gem and you've got to know how
to get them back to looking shy.

Speaker 3 (01:09:08):
Yeah, good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Nineteen ninet two is
the text plenty coming through?

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
Guys, most people in op shops are volunteers. Is this text?
You're usually older and if you spot a bargain, then
maybe pay a few bucks more as it's usually going
to a serious charity. Yeah, nicely said, right, keep those
coming through. I wit one hundred and eighty. Bruce's case,
it was coming away. He had to do some repair
on it.

Speaker 20 (01:09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
Yeah, So if you're buying a shoe that needs some repair,
then he.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Did the graft.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
It's not mint condition, Yeah exactly, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Nineteen nine two is that text for taking your calls?
I Wight hundred eighty ten eighty. How much are you
buying from your local op shop and what was the
best find you've found? Tell us it is sixteen two three,
beg very shortly, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons
news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
They'd be there's fourteen to three, so there's been a
big boom and the number of people buying things from
op shops of that shoe, Oh, ee hundred eighty ten
eighties the number to call.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Hi, guys. I work for a little health center in
more Hawks, Bay Town. The local option donate all their
takings to the health center. They make approximately ten thousand
dollars per year, which they donate to us. Just awesome generosity.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
And hell, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
That is buddy good.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
That is yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Good on you, Yeah, good on you.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Joseph.

Speaker 16 (01:10:22):
How are you, Yes, good afternoon, Matt Tyler, how are
you very good? I have been trying to figure out
for a long long time. I mean, I was ordered
the state until I was twenty, and if I went
to school with a hole in the trouser or anything,
I used to be embarrassed. But nowadays in the new shops,
in the second end shops, they've got loads of genes

(01:10:42):
and massive, big holes in their jeans. Yeah, I mean,
I mean, what's trying to chuck things.

Speaker 11 (01:10:50):
Like that out?

Speaker 16 (01:10:51):
I mean, what's going on that they've got to wear
and within big holes in them?

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
There's no accounting for fashion. Yeah, that's nostyle, Joseph.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
For the longest time, people wanted their genes not to
have holes in them, and as a reaction to that,
now some people want jeans with holes in them. Why,
I mean a scounted were distressed people, Pepe, Joseph, You'll
find that that people that they're sold new like that
and that they have in the factory, they get them
smashed up and distressed and have the holes ripped in

(01:11:19):
them before they even get to the new store, long
time before they can get to the opshop.

Speaker 16 (01:11:23):
But he's stupid, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
On you, Joseph pushed back on the holes in the gym.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
It is stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
It is a little bit that you make a piece
of clothing and then you smash it up and stretch
it and put holes in it and say, right, she's
ready to go.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
But when I was a kid, if you got new sneakers,
you're at risk of getting a punch in the head
father new sneakers. So you're on the way to school,
you'd rub them in the market.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
You got to scuff them up. If you turn up
to school with the worth white sneakers, pearly white, blinding,
you will, yeah, you will, You'll.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Never get yeah yeah, back in the day. But now
I think it's you know, you you want new sneakers,
but maybe distressed pants. But I don't know are they
Are they still running the Holy Pan?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I don't know if they are. I thought they were
kind of out of vogue at the moment. Maybe I'm wrong.
Nine two nine two. Are we still liking the holes
in the jeans?

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Joseph is seeing a few of.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Them, Yeah, and he's very upset about it. Pete, how
are you they met?

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
And Tyler?

Speaker 21 (01:12:20):
Yeah, I don't go for the man case sort of
okay for tools and stuff like that, but you get
the odd I get the odd shit yeah now and
now and then from them as well. But basically, but
the five dollar days are over because basically what they
have they have people out of the back and something.
They have been there for a while so straight away,
and they know the branding stuff now too. They're getting

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switched on to it. So they are paying in from
ten twenty fifty bucks now on jackets you pay yeah, yeah,
they are getting up there, likes say seventy eighty bucks.
So they're good old. If you're lucky enough, you get
someone's They do ever turnover a staff, a lot of them,
so you might be lucky enough. They're use you turnover
of staff mem and you might they put something out

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they want to know what it's worth, but normally they do.
They have people at the back are sourcing what they're work.

Speaker 7 (01:13:07):
When tray me.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
So that's a good point.

Speaker 21 (01:13:11):
Yeah, but what annoys me is the Salvation Army. They
have a policy they should change that. They call them
scum bags. What they do. They use the Salvation Army
as the rep as the rubbish. Yeah so so Salvation
and they take everything. And I said to the manager there,

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the nice guy, See, you want to go to the management.
So most of what they do is most of them
they do that. They will only take what they've got
to be resalable. But Salvation they take everything they've got
to be at a seventy one hundred thousand dollars a
year to take stuff for the typically a year.

Speaker 17 (01:13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
Well, I mean there was we had texts before the
same they spend one hundred and twenty grand. Yeah. So
if you know that what you're if you know what
you've got is unsellable crap, then you don't take the shop.
You only take to the You only take to the
opshop what the opshop can get something out of. Otherwise, Yeah,
son't be a doo bag.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Yeah, yeah, take it down to the dump. Yeah, Pete,
thank you very much. Mate. Oh e one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Bev and said twenty years ago, I says, twenty years ago,
I went into my local op shop and saw an
old bacon slicer. I bought it for one hundred bucks. Wow,
one hundred bucks from an op shop for a bacon
slicer twenty years on a bacon slicer, like yeah, like
a big old bacon sider. I gave it to my
wife for a laugh. I used that slicer yesterday. We
still have it. It would be one hundred years old

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and still works perfectly. That's literally the score of a century.
So big old, full sized bacon slicer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
So how can you get bacon in a slap? I suppose,
of course you can because it comes from a peg.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
But it was once a peg bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, they get a good point. Yeah, yeah, very good.
Keep those Diggs coming through. On nine two nine two.
We got to take a break, but we'll get to
more of your calls very shortly. It as nine to
three the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News talks'b news Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
There be at is six two three and we're talking
about purchasers from op shops. It is exploding at the moment,
So what are you buying?

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
Speaking of exploding, craigsy Is, Hey, guys, I watched a
docer a while ago with this fashion designer in the
States that hung new levis over a kettle fence, then
fired a shotgun at them to put holes in them,
then sold them for one hundreds of dollars extra cheers. Great,
I'd pay more of If someone wants to take these
pants off men and shoot a shotgun at them, then
I'll pay more for them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Shotgun to stress jeeks to take them off me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Yeah, I don't want you're shooting at me with them on. Hey,
Matthew Heath and Tiles Adams, how I get the full name?
You get the abbreviated name. What does that mean? Hey,
Methew Heath and Tiles Adams love the show. I found
a watch in a picket of a jacket. I don't
know what a picket of a jacket is. I bought
a knop shop driving, Oh, pocket of a jacket, idiot, right,

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I've ordered a knop shop. Driving to Rotrua once took
it to be valued seven hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Oh jackpot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Score.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Jacket was good too, Did they say, what kind of watch?

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
Wearing it today? Still stinks? Like you said, yeah, so
the jacket stinks, but still wearing it today? How long
ago they did this? But seven hundred and fifty dollars
watch got it valued? Well, see that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, that's a jackpot right there. Nine to nine two
is the text. But Michelle, what's your trick when it
comes to op shops.

Speaker 22 (01:16:20):
Well, I will say that they charge ridiculous for prices
these days, more so than what you see on marketplace
for the same item. So what I often do it
gives them a chance to reconsider. So I will take
the item to the counter without the price stag and
ask them, hey, I really like to buy this how much?
And nine times out of ten they will give me

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a much cheaper price and it's not then I just
put it back and move on like I'm not stealing
from them, But I give them a chance to reconsider
because sometimes it's you know who's price for these things, So.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
You get the person on the counter that doesn't know
what it's worth and they go, oh, five bucks, but
it's worth a lot more than that.

Speaker 22 (01:17:00):
Well I don't know. Look if I'm buying a spatula
and it's got three dollars on it and in the
Enco brand, I know myself that it's worth about a dollar.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Yeah, are you going to brand new?

Speaker 13 (01:17:10):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Are you going to sort of charity shops? Are you
going to vintage shops?

Speaker 22 (01:17:14):
A charity shop?

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
And you don't you don't feel like paying a lot
more for something because that money goes to charity?

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Does that?

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Does that? Does that cross your mind?

Speaker 22 (01:17:24):
I mean, that's lovely, But I'm shopping at charity shops
because the cost of living is pretty high on a
single income these days.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
So yeah, well fair enough to Michelle, it is a
good trick working it. She who dares wins. I think,
what a great discussion. Thank you to everyone who takes
so many ticks on that about great opshop fines. But
we've got another topic on the table after three o'clock.
We want to talk about kit set, sheds and buildings.
Will tell you more about that very shortly. News coming up, big.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything in between.
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons news Talk said.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
The very afternoons you welcome back into the show.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Darcy water Grave just put his head through the door
and the bloody yeah, got himself a twenty bucks got
himself a sweet snowboarding jacket from an off shop.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
A Scott Scott snowboarding jacket for twenty bucks. The Tinny
Bugger beautiful jacket. That's a three hundred buck jacket brand speaking.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
You, there's bargains out there, ladies and gentlemen. How old
charity shops?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
How often is Darcy water Grave going snowboarding?

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
Quite a lot, is he? Wow, he's on the crutches
at the moment, so not a lot at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
He'll be back on the mountain at no time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
But it's cold out there time.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
She certainly is. Yeah. So Darcy Watergrave, he's a massive
gym hunter by the sounds of it. Right, let's get
into this one. So we want to talk about flat
pack sheds and buildings. This is after Bunny's new flat
pack backyard pods. They've been pitched as a potential answer
to New Zealand's housing shortage. With the DIY studio kits
promising a quick and affordable way to add extra space.

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The hardware retailer recently began selling Elsewhere pods, so these
are flat pack studios to be assembled over a weekend.
The pods start at just over thirty five thousand dollars
for a two point seven meter studio and fifty eight
thousand for a four meter by two point four meter version.
So while the pods are marketed as a stylish backyard option,
there is some concern making them compliant as the home

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would require extra costs including foundations, insulation, plumbing, electrical work
council approvals. But most people who buy these kitset buildings
they set them up without the kitchen in the bathroom
because they can't be faft with that extra stuff and
certainly no foundations.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah, so then what's the problem you can slip? Well,
I think it's a ridiculous idea that someone couldn't sleep
in one of these. I mean we go camping.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
When I first moved to Orgland, I lived in a
shed out the back of a house on Areqi Street. Absolutely,
these things you can live in. I know that they're
not selling them, not saying that they're selling them that
you can live in them, but you absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Can, that's right. So they've got in the fine prints
that these buildings are not designed to be habitable.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
But that is softer human beings becoming.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
That's ask covering.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Is it that you're really suggesting that you wouldn't be
able to live in one of these things? Yeah, So
if you're someone that goes around and goes no, no, no, no, no,
no no no, they're not habitable, then how little faith
do you have in humanity? I mean, we used to
live outside. We're evolved to live outside, that's right. We
lived under the stars for a very long time. We
lived in caves, we lived in small dwellings, we were nomadic.

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So the idea that you wouldn't be able to live
in one of these beautiful, beautiful elsewhere pods, And just
to be clear, they're not saying that you should live
in there, but I'm saying you could easily.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Comfortably if you go and have a look at these
elsewhere pods. Just google it or have a look if
you can. They are beautiful looking buildings. You can have
them up on a weekend. Apparently, Because that's what I
want to question here when it comes to these kit
set buildings and kid set sheds. For that matter, I
question whether someone like me, even someone like you, Mett Heath,
can you really.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I definitely question that someone you would be able to
put them up?

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Could me? He really throw one of these bear boys
up in a weekend? I just like I hear ktsit building,
love the idea of it. They go and gang buses
at the moment because I've got the granny flat rules
coming in. But is it really that easy to buy
one of these things? They drop it off, you get
some mates around, you shout them, a few beers, put
on a barbecue, and you put this thing up in

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a couple of hours because it just comes.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
With the bits. I mean you might have to be
a little bit handly handy with a screwdriver and such,
and you need to make a flat surface, But surely,
I mean, can you put together a flat I mean,
it's not that much of them from putting an indoor
flat pack together, is it. I mean there's bits, doors
and such. They're very cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
They are very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
I beck myself better put one of these together.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
I'd get a bloke around. I get a bloke around.
There's no way I'm doing that myself.

Speaker 3 (01:21:55):
Well, the other thing is a shed. When you were
away Tighter, I was talking about sheds on air and
I just brought them up, and then the text machine
went crazy about sheds and different options for sheds, yes,
and whether you should build a shed yourself or whether
you should order one of these flat pack sheds to
put together. You know what are the good ones? Because
I want to get a shit yes, and I've been

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looking at us thinking about making it myself. But when
I vaguely wrote raised that, people say no, no, no, no, no, no,
buy a shit off me, buy a shed off of
our company. Because I want to get a shed that
can keep all my garden stuff in it, right, I
want to be able to maybe do a bit of
tinkering over by a window in it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Oh, so this is quite a big shit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
And then on the other side, I want a bit
where I can put two Tracy and my e bikes
up against the wall in it, so one end holds
two bikes. Then there's a bit that carries all my tools,
my garden staff and my lawn mower, all that kind
of stuff. And then just a little area that I
can do a little bit of tinkering in the shed.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Jes, this is a big job, mate. I was just
thinking when you see garden shed, just a place that
you could store your rakes and a few brooms. You're
talking about a This is a decent sized shit you're
talking about here, and you thought you could build it
yourself from scratch. Just go down to mine at ten
and get some timber and wake that beare boy up?

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Forget man Heath putting up a kit set? Has he
even fixed his fence yet? I have, actually, and when
I say I have, my mate Andrew. Has we attached
it to the Yeah, we fixed the fence.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
There was a while back. He may have heard, yeah,
the warritar.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
I got an angry letter from a neighbor. The tape
was put saying that I'd attached an illegal beam to
the fence. What had happened is the fence had half
blown down in a storm and I put a war
retar against and told it up briefly. My neighbor went
mental and before talking to me, posted me a five
page dossier with pictures of the supposed construction, because he'd
never seen a war retar before.

Speaker 22 (01:23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Anyway, what I did is I let him steal on
it for a long time, and then I took the
war retar away, and then I put some warning tape
up to act like it was dangerous, and then I
and then I fixed it. Yeah, good on you, because
love thy neighbor. Eventually there's no point in starting a
fight with your neighbor.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah, good point. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
So is it worth it to go kit set when
it comes to sheds or backyard buildings if you've done it?
And which ones are the best ones to go for?
Tell us eight hundred eighteen eighty is that number to cool?
And nine two nine two is the text number? It
is twelve past three, beagfory, surely news talks it'd be
it is a quarter past three. So if you've got
to do it yourself, shed that you've put up yourself,

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or even a backyard building over the weekend tell us
O eight one hundred eighty ten eighty. Generally, how hard
was it or should you get a bloken?

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Well, this person's saying fifty eight k is there? How
much they are fifty thirty three thousand? So okay, So
one of these pods start at thirty five thousand for
a two point seven meter studio in fifty eight thousand
for a four meter by two point four meter version.
This was saying, fifty eight guy, fifty eight k guys,
total rip. You can make one yourself for half the

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price or less even you can definitely make one yourself
way less than half that. Yeah, if you're gonna make
it yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
But would it stay standing up?

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Yeah? I mean I'm not convinced that it would be
safe if I made it by myself.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number two. Cool.
Plenty of texts coming through as well on nine two
nine too. This one says, giddy, guys, if you're putting
up a shed, have you got room for a work
bench as well? Very handy. That's from Tony.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Yeah, see that's what I need. I need a shed
because there's different things like so these these pods, these
backyard pods, I mean they're advertised as being somewhere you
hang out in the backyard, maybe use it as an
office or whatever. But let's be honest, people are probably
sleeping them. Yeah, that's a different thing than a shed. Yes,
I mean these things would not be great for a SHD. No,

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where you keep all your you know, your filthy crapping, right.

Speaker 2 (01:25:40):
Yeah, very styly by the look of it, these elsewhere pods.
But tell us what but I want to get.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
I want to get a shed that has a bench
in it, an area to keep all my stuff, like
my my gardening tools and my tools and paint and stuff.
But also another area where we can keep our bikes.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
So that's quite big shit, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
That is a big shed. Yeah, so one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. What sort of shit of you got,
particularly when it comes to do it yourself in nine
two nine two, if you want to send a text.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Says I haven't even seen these flat pack rooms you're
talking about yet, but I already don't back myself to
assemble it. I'm useless as a heavy man type job,
even with instructions and a wife in the background telling
me even she could do it. It's so frustrating if
you if you are starting to put up a shed,

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or no, you're starting to put up a flat pack
situation that starts to go wrong, isn't it. Yep, again,
you start damaging it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I just had trauma with trying to put together a
barbecue that we bought from mine to ten and it
didn't go well. It really did not go well. It
was just me and May and it ended up like
I couldn't find particular screws that I needed, and I
was yelling at Mave and told her to ring Might
a ten because I don't know if we've got the
right parts here. Then she rang your dad. She didn't
ring Might at ten, so then I had Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:26:59):
That's demasculating. Yeah, your father and Lauren.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
Kelly Talen May like Tyler needs to man up and
get his beep sorted here. So this has got horribly wrong.
So that's that's why my trauma.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
Was that the barbecue when we were ount of your
house and you destroyed about two hundred solids. So that's
just by overcooking them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Well, that was your barbecue that you lent me.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
That's right. I leave you that barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Those poor sauices. The dog was happy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
My barbecue is too powerful for you, you call it. Allison,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Hello, So you've got a Yeah, you know you've got
a diy she do.

Speaker 4 (01:27:32):
Here?

Speaker 23 (01:27:32):
We got one from Lichfield, which Lifestyle jeads and tokuo
and they were just amazing. We got quotes from all
from places and people building our own and the husband
wanted specific things like a roll up door for his
ride on Maya, a space for his cupboards, all the

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tools he wanted, a big work bench, a pedestrian door
going in and we just what we needed and the
slight magic they produced it. And the best part was
they delivered it. They have a ut and a trailer,
they deliver it and just deliver it on site. We

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had to get in a just because of the position
we wanted it, and we had to get in a
high ABD thing. This is a high you know that
lifts it up. But it was all just absolutely stress
free and amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Couldn't so they arrive completely put together and you just
have to have the You just have to have the
ground level to put it on.

Speaker 23 (01:28:36):
Pretty much, yeah, yeap, just have the ground level. And
most places where people would have their shed, they just
back in with their trailer and they can get in
all sorts of different places that They've got a really
good website. If you have a look, it's incredible where
they can deliver to and they just.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Roll it off and the way you go and there
are these like steel sheds color steel shed type of things.

Speaker 23 (01:29:00):
Yep, yeah, and they have a wide range of colors.
You can have them. Mind, you can choose whether you
have door was roll up doors, windows, so you really
can get it to work for what you want. And
we've got electricity to it. You know, the bloke needs
to have us talk radio going full blood. So we've

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got all that wire and done. So we had to
do was hook it up.

Speaker 13 (01:29:26):
It was great, right And.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
What about price point? Was it the right price wise?

Speaker 23 (01:29:34):
Absolutely? Even getting it delivered from where they are just
out of Tokuo, it was still cheaper than buying locally
for the same measurements. It was between five and ten
thousand cheaper. And it's a really neat couple that own
the business and they do all the delivery, so you know,

(01:29:57):
right from when your first stored, they're really on board
with what you want.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
And yeah, they just felt like green fields.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Could you live in one of them?

Speaker 3 (01:30:05):
Allison? Would you live in it?

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
Absolutely?

Speaker 23 (01:30:12):
And I'll tell you what. When you go out in
the morning, and that's because it's lined, it's just so
warm and oh it's great on a wintersday with the
sun stream again and you got.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Your husband just tinkering away in there, listening to talk
about radio hours and then it's the dream keep.

Speaker 23 (01:30:29):
Yeah, And it's got a lock, so if he's getting
into annoying, I can just roll the door down and
knock him in. He doesn't realize, but I'm angling to
sort of quietly move.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
A bed in a in a kettle, you know, before
he knows that that's his new home. One day I
look around and go, oh, I love you. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:30:48):
Yeah, to be quite honest, you know, for a god box,
it's really fresh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Get out to the shed. Yeah, you're great, Alison. Let's
feel sheds all the way. Get a simony.

Speaker 17 (01:31:00):
Yeah, guys, you jump a ship. I thoroughly recommend that.
I'm I've built sheds in the past, and I'm building
a full workshop at the moment, or turning a shell
into a full workshop. So there's a few do and
don't when you do your SHD. So what do you
what do you have to somewhere to put the bikes?

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Is it?

Speaker 13 (01:31:22):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
I want three things from it, simon. I want a
I want somewhere to keep the lawn mower and all
the spades and rakes and my tools and a bit
of paint stuff. I also want a little area to
do to do, you know stuff, tinker away stuff that
would be too messy to do in the house, you know,
cutting things and that kind of stuff. But I also

(01:31:44):
want at the other end of the shared I want
an ability to sort of keep our bikes, you know,
two bikes. That's what I need.

Speaker 17 (01:31:52):
Yeah, that sounds like you got the right plan. So
what you definitely want to do is drop power to it,
and with that you put your own cable in the
ground to give advice on it, dig your own trench,
drop the cable. The sparky taels. Yeah, you're taking a
lot of the label work out of it, and they
just connect up both ends and that's like spark You

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don't need to dig the trenches for you or drop
the cable on the ground. That's something you can stop
them do it yourself. You're just going to like drop
it to a certain depth, put some gravel or stones
in it, and they'll tell you the type of cable
that you go to do.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
It's it's you know, you make sure they do the
important bits at.

Speaker 9 (01:32:31):
Either end exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:32:33):
That's the thing you need to get startned off on.
But with your ship. You want to put some clears
in your roof, you know, you want to drop that
daylight in there, going to your shed and you might
have a windowside, but you're actually like going around with
a flashlight when it's sunny outside, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Yeah, good point, yeah yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:32:51):
And the other thing is hanging your bikes vertically. I'll
save you a lot of footprint.

Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, that that the bikes
on the hocks on hocks.

Speaker 17 (01:32:59):
I've upgraded from doing ship. It's my One's going to
be a full I'm looking if anyone's out there selling
the second hand barber's chair to isn't it all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
To start doing cutting, you know, running a barber shop
out of your ship.

Speaker 17 (01:33:14):
No, No, it's going to be woodwork, and it's just
for me to sit in and ponder.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
All right, what the barber share. They are pretty comfy.

Speaker 17 (01:33:22):
Yeah, it'll be my ideas chair.

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
You know.

Speaker 17 (01:33:24):
I just thought, I've always I've thought this was just
a bit of a dream, and I thought if I
could get a hold of one for a reasonable price,
it'd be pretty cool to put it in the corner,
sit in there and.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Think about the world.

Speaker 17 (01:33:35):
My next project.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
You know what about it.

Speaker 17 (01:33:38):
The wife can come down there and see me sitting
all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Would you would you accept a dentistry.

Speaker 17 (01:33:43):
Chare just in the dentistry here, that's that's taking it
to the next level. Then I'd have to put the
mirror and then get some dentist tools and do my
own work.

Speaker 11 (01:33:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Well, at the very least you have that little sink
with the little cups of orange water and blue water
that you spit out in rents.

Speaker 17 (01:34:01):
I need it real men to spit outside.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Yeah, just a hole in the wall for spinning. Good
luck with that. Simon said, yeah that, Yeah, he's right.
Oh why I'm on my my shed myself.

Speaker 2 (01:34:13):
Yep, you do that yourself, and you'll cut out what
do you call them?

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
I was just planning to hang an extingge cord across
the across the driveway.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
What about the skylights? Yeah, be with that. I was
just cut out plan.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
I plug an extension cord around the back of my
neighbor's house and running across the driveway and run run
my shed off his grid.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
That'll teach him, that'll teach him. Oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. So if you've got a kid, sat
shed or you've built your own, tell us about it.
In nineteen nine two is the text number.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
So many people want a barber's chair in this SD.
This sexta says a barber's chair in the in the
garage equals tequila laybacks. Just sitting in your shed by
yourself in a barber's chair.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
It's good life, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Tequila laybacks?

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
Oh man, that's the dream. If you've got a barber's
chair lying around, will walk you out with Simon nine two.
Let us know all right, beggary shortly. It is twenty
six past three.

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
Mad Heathen itams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty on used talk.

Speaker 2 (01:35:12):
ZB twenty eight past three. We're talking about kids seat sheds.
If you've bought one, how did it go trying to
construct it? And what were or are the better sheds
out there?

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
Yeah, and we're also talking about the idea of halving
up one of these you know things in your backyard
for someone to live in. They say you're not supposed
to live in them. I reckon you can. Fifteen years ago,
my neighbor and I independently bought the same very cheap
aluminium shed from bunnings. I built a small deck concreted
onto the ground out of off cuts of randa wood.

(01:35:44):
He put his shed on a few paviers, and the
first big storm has blew across the garden, breaking house
windows and tearing aparty to pieces. Mine is still standing
strong as ever, all these years later. Cheap sheds can
still work. But all the angles have to be perfect.
That's from Phil. That's like some kind of brother's grim tail,
isn't it. You know, that's like a nursery rhyme or

(01:36:05):
you know, zero morality tale there, Yeah, there is.

Speaker 17 (01:36:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
One one neighbor just brought this shed and just haffed
it on some on the ground. The other one concreted
it in with the veranda wood.

Speaker 2 (01:36:15):
And yeah, great story, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Huffed and puffed it across the garden.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Peter, how are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Very good? Thank you?

Speaker 13 (01:36:23):
Boys?

Speaker 2 (01:36:23):
How are you good? You've got a couple of sheds.

Speaker 13 (01:36:26):
I you got three?

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Oh, okay, what do you need?

Speaker 15 (01:36:30):
What do you need?

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Three sheds?

Speaker 13 (01:36:32):
All we James the property. There was one already on
the on the property, which is a good shed that's
got all the gardening tools and bits of pieces and
on one side and the other half of it of storage.

Speaker 5 (01:36:41):
And then we built a big deck.

Speaker 13 (01:36:43):
It's are twelve meters. Yeah, it was twelve meters by
ten meters and also built my wife she shed.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
Oh what's a she shed for?

Speaker 11 (01:36:54):
She?

Speaker 2 (01:36:57):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
How does it differ from he shed?

Speaker 12 (01:37:00):
It is?

Speaker 13 (01:37:01):
Yeah, she had got many stuff in it, but she
she's got lady stuff in it. And so that's four
point two meters by three point day. She got carpet
in it's not carpet, no, but it's all insulated underneath
it itsentilated on the deck. It's part of the deck
essentiated underneath. It's got insulation in the walls and in

(01:37:21):
the ceiling in the rec at least.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
What kind of stuff does she get up to in
the she shed?

Speaker 17 (01:37:27):
I don't ask fair enough?

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
Fair enough is the she is? The she shed nicer
than your two he sheds.

Speaker 13 (01:37:36):
You have to say. So it looks like it looks
like it belongs and in front somewhere, you know, mainly
to clean. It's got shutters. I've got small plane windows,
all of that sort of stuff. It's great for her
with with with her girlfriends. They go and there and
they have high tea and they it's a wine shed well,

(01:38:00):
and right outside the shed bren stores that open up.
And right outside the shed is our table. And she
is onto the deck which all fit under a purglar.
So it's a great it's a great spot, especially you know,
for entertaining. And then all I've got I've got one
side of the deck was four barbecues on it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Wow, wow, four appreciate.

Speaker 17 (01:38:24):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 13 (01:38:25):
And then so that's my well charcoals, a a weber, gas,
and a.

Speaker 17 (01:38:34):
Smoker.

Speaker 13 (01:38:35):
Three main ones I got here. And then I've got
a little one little barbecue was just the two. And
then the other shed I got was one of those
seedar sheeps. Yeah, see those ones. Look them up. That's
pretty cool around steed in the timber cedar made out
of yeah, and there kit set and I bought that.
In fact, well we bought that and made it up

(01:38:56):
on that first when when we did the first shutdown
over COVID. My grandson and I put it together, and
they're pretty easy to put together. We put it together
based at the end of the day or a day
and a half, and that's where I keep all my
tools or my power tools and handles and all those
sorts of things.

Speaker 17 (01:39:16):
And I've got a.

Speaker 13 (01:39:16):
That's got a ben inch in it comes to the
bench as well. Are you one of the bench in
yours mat? You might want slightly bigger one of the
seedy one than I go.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
I want to sit at a bench and look out
of a small shed window back at the house.

Speaker 13 (01:39:31):
Yes, that's exactly That's exactly how mine's positioned. I've got
a small window in it, or a window, and i
can look back, and I can look back at the
at my wife's sheet hit and the deck. But I'll
tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
I don't know what I'm going to do at my bench,
But I just got this idea that I'd like to
sit at a bench and steer out of a small
window back at the house. Where I will I do something,
maybe some soldiering or something.

Speaker 13 (01:39:53):
Well, I think you'll find things to do, like maybe
have a glass of wine or a beer, contemplate the
day's activities.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
I just sat by myself in the shed looking through
a small window back at the house, drinking a beer.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
And up them.

Speaker 17 (01:40:09):
I have done that on occasion.

Speaker 13 (01:40:11):
But I'll tell you one thing that the she shed
that we built the deck which is a big deck,
Turglar the whole lot, including all the electrical work. Fifteen
fifteen cake, no bad.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Is your life perfect now, Pete? Is it complete?

Speaker 13 (01:40:25):
My life from perfect for quite some time. That's why
I've been married fifty five years. It's the same lady.
And I'm very happy here. That's my I'm retired so
i can spend a lot of time here on the deck.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
And they said, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
That's a secret.

Speaker 3 (01:40:40):
He said, she said, he said, she shed, she shed.

Speaker 5 (01:40:45):
Yep, And.

Speaker 17 (01:40:49):
What else do you want?

Speaker 13 (01:40:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:40:50):
Perfect, Life's perfect, he solved it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Yeah, he's a genius. You're an absolute guru.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
People have been looking for the meaning of life for
as long as there's been humans. And Pete, with the
she shed and the peat shed and the wine and
the tinkering looking at the little window back of the house,
that is.

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Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Thank you very much. Ray Lane is twenty two to
four and we're talked about sheds.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
And someone said, you shirds. Play the clip where Peter
Griffin talks about sheds. Okay, okay, well here we go.

Speaker 24 (01:42:52):
You're right, what are all these keys for a series
of sheds? I got a lot of sheds back home. Well,
you have more than one shed, of course, you always
need an extra shed. I even got one shed that
just has an extra shed in it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
You guys talking about sheds. Hell, Yes, I love my sheds.
He too, high five on shed sheds.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
She it's an interesting question. Why why do we love
shed so much? Why did we get so excited about sheds?

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
What's not to like about a shed? I mean, it's
the possibility of a shed, right, That's what we love
about a shed. The shit can be whatever you want it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
This Texas is don't tell anyone, don't let anyone tell
you where you can and cannot sleep. Yeah, that's true.
I want That's my point with these everywhere pods, people
saying that you shouldn't sleep in them, sleep where I want?

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
Yeah, simply, who do you think you are? One hundred
and eighty ten eighties number to call get a Greek.

Speaker 20 (01:43:44):
Hey, you game boys. I've got a fairly big shed
that I built myself because I didn't want to pay
any money, so I made a set out my goal
to build it for nothing. And I got a whole
bunch of sycaee fiberlight and a whole bunch of pellets.
I've got a pellet deconstructing tool. And I ended up
crossing one hundred and thirty bucks because I started using

(01:44:05):
second hand nails on putting the firelight on and gave
up on that really quickly. Gave up on that really
quickly because that wasn't much fun. So I went and
bought some new ones. And then just the skylights on
the roof, like the clear light cargated on but not
you know, to see through thing the light in there.
I bought that. That was about eighty bucks. So that's

(01:44:26):
all I made to build the whole shed. And it's
got carpeted and that's two point three meters by six
meters long.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Oh that's a decent sized ship. And yeah, well, how
many doors? What sort of doors should we got on there?

Speaker 20 (01:44:37):
I got I got barn doors either, end because I
can put my lawnma through to go on the graph.
So it's got four doors either end through that can
open at the bottom.

Speaker 3 (01:44:44):
You can drive through it.

Speaker 20 (01:44:47):
We got dry for it, but you could push them
all through it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, oh wow.

Speaker 20 (01:44:50):
And so it's got a I bought a movable bench
which is about three meters by six hundred, so you
can it's got all wheels. You can push it around inside.
But there's no remedy at the moment. I got to
get rid of some stuff, rid of my leave. I
don't use it very much. But that's exactly what I've
been trying to tell her wife, But she's sort of
seas I I was going to make another sit out

(01:45:11):
of the back where I look you to put my
recycled ream which I've got truckloads of it to make stuff.
But I got a quote from a guy because it's
where I want to five meters long by about eight
hundred wide. I was seven thousand bucks and I'm saying,
and I'm not going to do that. I'll build one myself.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
You know, was your wife impressed with your shed when
you finished it? Did she?

Speaker 12 (01:45:32):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:45:32):
Yeah, yeah, Well she was impressed with the shep, and
I think she was impressed when I started bringing home.
You know, I brought home a sickness here, and I
brought home a lathe, and I brought home and this
and that and the other thing. You know, just dropped
sow and a bench saw and a pleasure of seeing you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
When you've when you've when you've gained yourself some room,
some storage space. That's when things get risky, because you
will fill that storage space to its capacity, won't you agree?

Speaker 20 (01:45:57):
Yeah, that's why've got to get rid of the lathe,
because my sp in my garage, which I've got to
get rid. I've got a bench plane and something else
in there that I need to put in the shed,
but I haven't got room for it until I get
rid of the lath the lakes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
How long ago did you build this shed?

Speaker 9 (01:46:09):
Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
It was there six or seven years ago and it's
holding up right.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:46:14):
I've had to replace then the clear lot on the
roof once because the UV bugg at it, you know,
it was leaking. Yeah, so that but I mean that
was all fine year.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Six meters long by two meters deep.

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Did you say two point two years?

Speaker 20 (01:46:30):
The reason that's too and it's about two point two high.
I got a whole bunch of seeking here fiberlight to
build it, and it was all broken on the corners,
so I couldn't make it two point four. So I
just made it a bit less and had it all
down so you know. And then I had some that
rollout garage carpet which I put on the floor. I
got great, big giant pellets on the ground and then
put five light over those. It's got some twelve or

(01:46:51):
five light and then put carpet over. It's just wonderful
thing is the wife?

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Is your wife? Ever been in your shed?

Speaker 12 (01:46:56):
Greg?

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:46:57):
Plenty of times he comes out to make me come
in and cook dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:47:02):
Sounds like a great ship.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
It certainly does. See it's off.

Speaker 3 (01:47:05):
I mean, these aren't she it's a bit fleshing there.
There's fifty eight thousand for one of these everything pots.
But he's making a shed for one hundred and sixty bucks.

Speaker 5 (01:47:11):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:47:12):
You just have to be clever.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
Yeah, you're taking notes, which is a problem. Yeah, one
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Plenty
of teas coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Got a kit sit shed off trade tested cost seven
thousand two point eight meters times three point eight meters,
added power to it and ended up eight thousand totals. Slowly,
this is turning into the teenager's bedroom. Great addition to thousay,
it's perfect. Don't ever let anyone say that your teenager
can't sleep in a.

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Shit take as sleep anywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
It's too good for most teenagers.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
The shed's tent. Yeah, I keep those seats coming through
on nine two nine two. It is seventeen to four.
Back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
Wow your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk, say'd.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Be it's fourteen to form. We're talking about sheds to
it yourself or ones that you've built. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number of call taxst here geday, guys,
mady here my story of a car port five meters
by four meter size. Dug four holes in the sand
about two foot deep, placed poles in it, attached woodbits
to hold in place, refilled holes around post with the
sand lifted and fixed. Fixed a corrugated roof frame onto

(01:48:13):
the post, fastened to the post. Done and dusted, but
guess what. Within a week a bit of wind came
down the gully and lifted the roof over the fence
and politely placed it upside down between the corner of
the neighbor's house within inches and other opposing corner within
inches of their nice car. Needless to say, in the
morning when I woke, I rushed out when I saw it,
and quickly dismantled and loaded it back over my side

(01:48:35):
of the fence. No one knew until now. Be careful
building your own great text.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
On the show.

Speaker 5 (01:48:44):
Hi, guys, love your show. Firstly, I'm ringing it.

Speaker 25 (01:48:48):
I'm cheating.

Speaker 5 (01:48:49):
I'm cheating.

Speaker 25 (01:48:50):
I sell kitsid sheds.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Do you okay?

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
All right?

Speaker 25 (01:48:54):
I sell the best kittsed shed New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:48:56):
Whereabouts do you sell them?

Speaker 13 (01:48:57):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
What era area?

Speaker 13 (01:48:59):
Are the company?

Speaker 25 (01:49:00):
All over the country. We set on distribute all over
the country, free delivery nationwide, and we do everything from
your little garden she through to what I call a
mechanic special, which you can put a hoiston and play
at home and put a car on a hoist and
do whatever he likes.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
He's got a three point five meter shared probably two
meters deep, where someone could have a little a little
bench looking out a window, but also a place to
keep tools and garden equipment, but also a place to
keep too e bikes.

Speaker 25 (01:49:32):
And I promise it wouldn't even blow away.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
That's a bonus r that. I'm not so worried about
the blowing away. It's the stuff that's in it that
that's all I care about.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Safe and secure, Yeah, safe and secure. What's what?

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
What's the name of your shed company?

Speaker 13 (01:49:47):
What I call himself?

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
Made of steel, made of steel.

Speaker 25 (01:49:51):
They are steel framed sheds, clad and color steel.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
You got a website, yep.

Speaker 25 (01:50:00):
Made of steel dot dot m Z doesn't show a
lot of sheds. It shows a lot of other projects,
but in the next few days when it gets upgraded,
will show all the sheds.

Speaker 13 (01:50:10):
But also advertised on.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
Training all kinds of can you go all kinds of
colors there.

Speaker 25 (01:50:16):
Any color of color steel product you like?

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Well, I'll tell you what, mate, I'll keep an eye
out yet, I'll look you out. Sounds great, good to start.
Thank you very much, Craig. You've got some options for Matt.

Speaker 5 (01:50:30):
Yeah, I think you've got to have a bit of
a look at it back. So obviously there's a lot
of pre made steel sheds. You can go to Bunnings
or wherever and look at the sheds for the size
you want, but quite often you've got to look at
the realities. Is that just steel shd You don't have

(01:50:53):
the options for windows and things where you want them.
And there's also no way to actually screw things. Like
you're talking about wanting to hand your bikes up. You
can't do that on the steel shared There's just nowhere
to do it. I highly recommend just putting a concrete flooding,
putting a concrete floor down, and then just building one

(01:51:16):
with play.

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
It's an interesting, interesting one, isn't that Because in our
life we always think, you know, maybe you always hear
about a granddad who build a house, or you know,
there's surely at some point in your life you should
be you know, competent enough to build yourself some kind
of dwelling like a ship, you know, a simple dwelling, right.

Speaker 5 (01:51:36):
Yeah, definitely, And it's not really that difficult. Like what
are you gonna do is like, get a concrete concrete
floor down. Yep, that's really simple, make it the size
you want it to be. Then you just put a
bottom plate on which you dinabowl to the floor, So
just a four to two timber all the way around,

(01:51:56):
and there's your starting point.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
And then you just you draw planets up before first.
Do you make it up as you go?

Speaker 5 (01:52:03):
No? Hell no, draw some plans.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
We've all got to made.

Speaker 5 (01:52:08):
You know how to draw plans, simple plans. You don't
need to make it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
And do you follow those plans or do you just
sort of decide halfway through that you're going to try
something else? No, sick the plans? Yep, okay, good, good vite.

Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
So one of the things I'd really suggest, though, is
buy your door like by a doorframe and an exterior
door by your windows, like some secondhand timber frame windows,
really simple and cheap as chaps, and then you just
you get it made. It's got a little bit of

(01:52:41):
common sense and you just put those windows and doors
into it, right, so.

Speaker 3 (01:52:46):
That so that that sort of intricate stuff has already
been done.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
Yeah, so you've already drawn that up, and you just
do by.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
A door frame as well, at a door around the doorframe, yes.

Speaker 5 (01:52:56):
By the door in the doorframe. So you know, so
then you make your helping out that sort of understands
how to use the tape measures go and you know,
give yourself ten team mill each side for your doors
and windows.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Give yourself ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
Seriously, you'll wack it up in a weekend with a
couple of good mates.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Yeah, drinking drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:53:21):
Tyler's up to drinking. Tyler's that mate that can help me?
Or do you think I need a more competent mate.

Speaker 5 (01:53:26):
I think you two guys have got a clue. Yeah,
I think you can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
Last time I tried to do something, Tyler started drinking
really early and he was useless by about three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
Yeah, but I brought the beers.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Yeah, he's just watching. He He's the kind of guy
that gets the beers and sits on a cheer and watches.

Speaker 2 (01:53:44):
I'm good on the end of a spade. I use
the spade. I just stand and hold it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:48):
That's what getful for guys.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
What was I talked over something? You're talking about millimeters?
What was the millimeters? Ten mil for?

Speaker 13 (01:53:57):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:53:58):
Just give yourself so with your window frames and your
door frames, and give yourself the each side and top
and bottom yep, so that you can slide little pack
of them. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and then just do
it and play and were your joints are just run
a strip of timber down your joints, so you're climbing
baton and then you've got an amazing interior that you

(01:54:22):
can now attach benches and everything too because you've got
a wooden frame.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Screw stuff into it. Yeah, thanks for your cool Craig.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
There you go. Craig's done half the work for you, mate.
I mean, what else do you need? Craigs. Craig sortage out.
You're thirty percent of the way there.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
I'm one of those guys that believes the last thing
that someone said to me, I was all in on
made of steel. They look good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
Yeah, now I'm going to make it myself. Yeah, Craig's convincing.
Now we have more time somewhere in the middle. Yeah, right,
Beg very shortly, got to play some message that it
is seven to four.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks'd.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
Be news talks here B five two four.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
We could talk about sheds forever.

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
I've got anyway, phones are still going off the hok.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
Maybe all start a shed podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
I'm down for that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
All right, that's the end of the show. Thanks so
much for listening, Thanks for all your calls and texts.
Ryan is in next for Heather and after four pm
the Secondary Principals Association Chair on fifteen percent of kids
leaving high school with no qualification to show for it?
Are we making this a habit? But right now, Tyler,
why am I playing the opening track from Fleetwood Max's
nineteen seventy seven album Rumors. Let me just quickly google

(01:55:33):
the lyroh answer. Ah, that's right, because we were talking
about how we're talking about the news that Oktops reinvested
seventy eight million into social programs in the last year
in New Zealand, which is literally secondhand news.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Yeah, nicely done.

Speaker 3 (01:55:50):
All Right, you've seen business. So we'll let you go.
I'm an Heath. That's Tyler Adams and we'll be back
live on your radio tomorrow afternoon until the end.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
Give a taste a Kiwi from.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
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