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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Talk, said B.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
For a good afternoon to you. Welcome into Friday. Hope
you're doing well. You've had a great week and you're
having a great afternoon. But thanks very much for giving
us a listen you I met Heath, Yeah, Ay.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Tyler gooda everyone O one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number? Nineteen nine two is text love to
talk to you over the next three hours.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right, then, okay, got a good show for you
just before we get to the topic at hand now,
wishing for you met Eath and our listeners. Yes, the
Telly Winker put last night the TV the TV. So
we went to switch it on and it did the
week click and flashed and then the screen went completely black.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Right and tried to you called in the TV repair men. No, no, no, no,
there used to be a thing a TV. Are they
still out there if you're a TV repairment, But as
soon as a flat screen dies, it's just landful, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, Well this is a twenty year old TV, so
it's had a good life.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
And I thought, oh, twenty year old TV, that's pretty good.
Cathode ray.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
I don't know, so some sort of Samsung operation.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Is it a plasma?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yes, it is a pleasma. Oh wow, it's a plasma TV.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Old school?

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, old school. But that led me down a bit
of a rabbit hole last night and looking for a
new TV. Can I just say the nonsense TV tech
jug and that you've got to deal with these days? Well,
there's the difference between O LID and q LID and
quantum dot in AI technology that's evolved. All I want
is a reasonably good tally about say fifteen hundred, or
if you can get a pretty decent tally for about

(01:51):
fifteen hundred, it doesn't need to be massive. Sixty five
would be nice. Is it a big tally?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
That's pretty big? Sixty five?

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Maybe fifty five is more.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'm running a sixty five of my lounge and there's
plenty big enough.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, there's plenty big enough. What are these these bad
boys must have be?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
That's a fifty five that looks about my size to
be honest, Yeah, you know, I think that's a good
match for just my body type. One thing you want
to check on TVs is the soap opera effect. So
just google the soap opera effect on it because some
TVs it's still with the it's to do with how

(02:24):
the frame rate works and interlace and interlacing frames. Anyway,
The upshot is some TVs they can have a better picture,
but because they are interlacing their frames kind of like
an old school video camera or an old school early
VHS filming of TV shows can make it look like

(02:45):
a soap opera, right, So you can have really really
good footage, but it's too vivid. It's like the first
Hobbit movie, Yes, when they went to seventy frames. Anyway,
check out because it's very annoying if you get a
TV and you can't flick it out of that mode.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So what do I look for? Frame rate? Is that
frame rate?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And now just look up check it out and someone
online will say whether you can move it out of
the soap opera effect.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, all right, now, just last week, just before we
get into the topic, because I'm genuine about this, what
is a good TV brand these days? Because that's the
other thing that can confuse me. Someone said TCL was
was okay? Is alg still good? Saying I'm sick of Samsung.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Aldi is still good. Samsung is still good.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yep, Phillips, that's up there, Phillips is.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
The right songa A Sony Bravia is pretty good.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Still.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
I'm a big fan of using the yeah, Google operating
system on it right, just because there's some sort of
synergy across a few things. But the Samsung operating system
is pretty good. I mean, how good are your eyes?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Not great?

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Not gready to mean so already it doesn't matter, doesn't matter? Yeah,
very good?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
If you know a good tally nine two ninety two
let me know right, Let's get into this. So a
new poll has been doing the rounds this morning and
getting a bit of attention. This is the latest IPSOS
Issues Monitor survey. The methodology is highly questionable. We'll talk
about that very shortly, but this particular pole set. It
looked into what matters most to New Zealanders. So respondents
who took part ranked their top twenty concerns, and the

(04:06):
results IPSOS suggest say that labor is seen as more
capable of handling the economy, the cost of living, inflation, health, unemployment,
and house prices, whereas National on the other hand, was
seen as stronger on law and order, in defense and
foreign affairs as well.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Well, I'll tell you what a lot of people care
about TVs. This has come through anything with AI as
marketing crap. That's a very good point. Don't read anything
of a anything they talk about the AI at all.
Get rid of it just yet. Don't buy that, don't don't,
don't be don't even consider it. Okay, but O l
ED best specifically QD O l D. Then QLD is

(04:45):
the expert that so what I'm talking about look for
high hurts.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Okay, right, I'll just save that text and try and
get my head around it.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Shut your face, Matt Sony is not great anymore. I
don't know about Msung and LG.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Okay, this is text Samsung and LG.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Whereas this textas Tyler Sony, is the best overall. Should
we talk about this after three?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Maybe we do?

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, this is going to help me out.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I think you've muddy the waters with this question. I
certainly have. Anyway, as I was saying before that, pole,
let's be honest, it's it's it's basically a flashed up
website straw pole. The epsosce poles, isn't it. It's opt in,
not a random probably sample of New Zealand population. It's

(05:23):
monishing one hundred and two people. But it can't even
claim to have a margin of era, so it doesn't
use a conventional margin of era. It calls it a
they've got a credibility interval because because it's opt in,
as all things on EPSOS are, they can't claim that
it has a margin of era because they don't to

(05:43):
use standard deviations to to claims a margin of era.
You you have to be randomly sampled, right, yes, yeah,
so they have a credibility interval, and I'd say they
have a massive credibility interval. What bs Yeah. But so
the point is that the EPSOS poll, and as I
say before, surprise that it's not always mentioned immediately when

(06:06):
it's reported on that it isn't a pole, like people
think it's a pole. I'm so surprised, you know, But
what if you think of the poll? It is interesting
to think to ask the question, what do you think
of the most important issues are going into the election,
and what parties do you think are the best at
dealing with those particular issues. I think they're still an

(06:27):
interest in question, even if EPSOS haven't asked it and
any answered it in any meaningful way.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Or do our own unscientific poll here right here, right now.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
This will not be a poll a little bit discussion,
no exactly. I mean this like, we could never print
this the results of this chat as a pole and
say this is what people think, yep, because people are
having to opt in by ringing our e one hundred
and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
It would never get picked up by the herald or
stuff or urn Z. Maybe it's should it's right on
the level of itself.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Ill be put on the front page and we'll say
a pole saying this without ever mentioning the methodology of
the poll. Oh my god, I'm getting boged down on that.
Or the point is ABSOS poll, Ignore that, yep. Concentrate
on what you think are the issues that are the
most important are coming into the election eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty in which part is you think would
be best at dealing with them?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, tell us what you think. Ninety two ninety two
is the text. Numbers well, let's get into it back
fory shortly. It is thirteen past one.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Be it is sixteen past one. So let's have a
discussion about what actually are the biggest issues for you
right now heading into the election in less than one
hundred days. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call a nine two niney two is
the text. There's a heck of a lot of texts
coming through this. One says okoday guys, cost of living

(07:48):
and general economy difficulties for me, although according to some people,
we don't have a crisis and they don't want anyone
to use that term anymore. My voter is going to top.
They say it was New Zealand first, but not anymore
after yesterday.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
Ah.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Really the Lincoln Greens, hmmm, top is that that's their
new thing, isn't it? Top? The LinkedIn Greens?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I think that's what the sound the website is it.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
It's got to catch got to catch on. I'm trying
to make that catch on. That's my thinging we can
see what the coalition has done with our economy. Labor
can't be as bad as the current government. Hence my
vote is going to labor or the Greens, says this text.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
There, okay, so tell us what you think. I W
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. What is the biggest
issue for you looking ahead to the election. So we've
spoken briefly about this EPSOS poll, but they released a
twenty issues they say are of most concerned to Kiwis
and we might go through some of those lists as
the hour continues. But really want to hear from you

(08:54):
because there's a lot of problems with this particular pole.
This text says, getay, guys, I knew that poll was
bogus when it stated that people regard and regarded labor
as the best to fix all of our problems. I
mean what and this one in a similar veinday, guys,
National is far more competent on nearly every topic mentioned.

(09:17):
I can't believe they got to that sort of result.
So what do you say?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Health? Health, Health, with an exclamation mark is the most
important thing to them. Absolutely, If it's an opten pole,
why are you entertaining it? Well, we're not. That's the point.
So we're saying that it's an opten pole. So the
results of the epsoce pole are not really hugely more
relevant than any kind of straw pole on the internet.

(09:45):
So we've decided to have a discussion.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
That's right, we questioning it and tell it, asking you
what actually matters to you, rather than relying on this
this dodgy pole. Yeah, and eighteen eighty I think we've
got Gary on the line.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I'll tell you what right now, Tyler and TI text
machine is absolutely ran with TV advice. I've muddy the
water's there. We'll get to that after three. Gary, welcome
the show.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
How are you happy Friday?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Mate?

Speaker 3 (10:09):
What's your thoughts for you?

Speaker 9 (10:11):
My thoughts?

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Can we just hear from the parties and say what
they're going to do instead of bleeting at each other
about what the others done and or you know, just
tell us what you've got, you know, sell it to us.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
What do you got, what are you going to do?
How are you going to pay for it?

Speaker 10 (10:29):
Let us know that.

Speaker 8 (10:30):
Don't gripe about what the other person's done or blaming
the how many years ago was COVID and all this?
You know, present your case, then we'll make a judgment
on that. But they're infighting and the bs that goes
on between each party, he said. She said, it's like
we don't want to know that. We know it, we've
made our decisions. We've seen that happen with either political

(10:52):
party or all of them. Now just present your case.
What are you going to do to help New Zealand.
It's a fantastic place to live, There's no two ways
about it, and we need to demonstrate that and lead it.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, so, I I mean, I guess you could go
if you want to them just to do their push,
you go to one of their you know rallies, I
mean rallies in New Zealand, but different rallies over seas.
I mean they're just sort of people sitting in the
hall where left down hall right, Yeah, or you know
their launch campaign launchers. So you know, like if I
if I go to I'll go. I've gone to Labor

(11:27):
dot org dot n Z and it's sort of lists
all their policies there. Have you have you gone through
and read all all Labor and National and New Zealand
First and Act and the Greens policies.

Speaker 8 (11:39):
Well not really, we're really in a media world, you
know where your your Facebook's and all those places where
you've did a lot of your information. And what they
often for events is that infighting he said, She said
stuff between each party. It doesn't come out and go

(11:59):
here's what we've got, and you know it's just all
that stuff in the background. Yeah, you know, small percentage
of actually here's what I've got, Here's what I can
give to you.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
Where don't you feel that here I am.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
Would you like this or not?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
If you don't, fine, move on.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
So would that be the biggest issue for you right now? Gary?
You know they've listened a whole bunch of individual things,
but for you, you just want to hear exactly what you're
going to do to push the country forward. And that
is the biggest thing. That's the biggest issue.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
And how are you going to pay for it?

Speaker 11 (12:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Pay for it's important?

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, I mean the problem for parties is they put
up their policies. Yeah, and you know, look at the
Greens when they put up their policies and then people
crunch the numbers and go, oh, hang on out that
doesn't work. So they get shy, they get scared to
put up more policies. Yeah they do.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, so tell us your thoughts on one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. What is the biggest issue, actually the
biggest issue for you right now, less than one hundred
days away from the election.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, but I mean, if you're on social media to
decide what's happening with politics, then you it's going to
be a very stressful way to decide what's going on,
right because people are just trying to win the war
of the algorithm. Yep. And you know what gets what
gets put in front of you is the most extreme stuff, right,
So true. Yeah, So if you want to make a
decision on who you're going to vote for, wouldn't you
go to their websites and read all their policies. I'm

(13:16):
on the Labor website now. It says twenty twenty dollars
public transport fee caps, three free doctors' visits, free prescriptions,
free maternity scans with a metacard, free cervical screening, lots of.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Free stuff, lot of free stuff, and then capital gainstacks. Okay,
there you go, all right, So what do you think
does he get your vote? On eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty and what is the biggest issue for you
tell Us nineteen ninety two is the text number. It
is twenty two past one. Beggary surely.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Fearless, focused informed. It's the make Husking Breakfast.

Speaker 12 (13:49):
Chris bishop Is, the Minister Transport, could not be more excited.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I'm like fizzing at this.

Speaker 13 (13:54):
Look it's a good day for Authland, then it's a
good day for the country.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's twenty four kilometers full lane expressway.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
It's going to make the road a lot safer, a
lot more resilient.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Unlock the North.

Speaker 12 (14:04):
I travel on the book before the book that you're
about to build, and that bit of is literally a
game changer. Northland has been treated so abysmally for so
many years, and if you get a proper road into
that place, it's going to boom.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I couldn't agree with you more.

Speaker 14 (14:18):
These are the sort of game changing, transformational pieces of
infrastructure that we need.

Speaker 12 (14:22):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Defender Trophy News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
News Talks EDB. It is twenty five past one. So
what is actually the biggest issue for you right now,
looking at ninety nine days until the election. Tell Us
one hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
Andy, welcome to the showy, very good, thanks for calling.

Speaker 15 (14:43):
Good.

Speaker 16 (14:43):
Thanks.

Speaker 17 (14:46):
So you're just saying three three three free on the
labor site, Well, obviously we all know it's actually a
taxpath funded taxpath funded. Now they're talking about.

Speaker 10 (14:59):
Labor being the best for housing prices.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
That correct, Yes, yes, yep, yep.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
Okay, So well now that will.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Be fair, Andy, that's the people that opted in to
do the e sot POL. Make that clear.

Speaker 10 (15:12):
Okay, yeah, yep, fair yep.

Speaker 17 (15:14):
So my house has been stagnant in price for the
last three years, which is pretty damn good.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
Really well.

Speaker 10 (15:20):
Wages and salaries except so slowly catch up. But all
these three things are tied to this capital gains tax.
So at July twenty seven are going to do.

Speaker 17 (15:34):
A dat and date which is where the house price
is going to be zeroed, and then any gain from
there people are going to be text on them. So
surely labor have a vested interest in house price is
going up. How does that helping every day?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Kewis all right, I see what you're saying. So if
house prices are going up, then they're bringing in more
revenue to pay for free cervical screening, free prescriptions, free
maternity scans, free doctor's visits, and the twenty dollar public
transport fear cap is a good point. Actually, they are
incentivized and.

Speaker 17 (16:09):
You can't afford to do it if they don't do it,
if they don't make.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
Houses go up.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, that's an interesting point.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, But just on the question itself that this particular
pole last, I mean that in itself is you know,
because I don't know what question it is, but whatever
way you look at it, whether the question was about stabilizing,
whether you want house prices to go down, whether you
want them to go up, it depends on your perspective
of life. Right, If you've got a house, you may
want them to stable. You probably want them to go up.
If you don't have a house, you want them to

(16:36):
go down. So that's a very skewed selection and a
question to ask.

Speaker 17 (16:42):
It is, Yeah, and everyone has a different perspective on it.
But I mean having them stay relatively stagnant for three
years and in salaries and wages have gone up a
bit in that time, at least that's got to be
making them slightly more affordable.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, a lot of first time buyers getting in there.
I mean, there's no doubt that the housing affordability is
improving in New Zealand at the moment. How long that
will go for I don't know. But housing affordability improving
does mean a lot of people that bought at the
peak are feeling quite poor. Now. Yeah, people that bought
in twenty twenty two are you know? Yeah, exactly what
your point is, Tyler? For those people, they're going housing

(17:21):
affordability is improving. But I am now in the you know,
I'm underwater for two and and fifty grand or whatever
it is.

Speaker 17 (17:27):
Yeah, as they always say, it's time in the market,
not timing the market.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, So just going quickly back to it, Andy,
So is it the house price affordability that's the biggest
issue for you?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
No?

Speaker 10 (17:41):
Education is. But I haven't heard you comment on it.
I haven't heard what they've said about it.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's to see where education is on this list of
twenty according to this so called poll. I can't actually
see that.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
In the list.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well hang on its well oh no, sorry, it does.
It's on ten ten, equal with immigration. Really yeah, so at.

Speaker 10 (18:02):
Number keen and what have who have they suggested?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Labor?

Speaker 18 (18:07):
Right?

Speaker 17 (18:08):
Remember, I mean personally, I think Eric Stamp is doing
an absolutely fantastic job. And we've seen how over the
last twenty five years our standards of education have definitely
slipped on a worldwide scale.

Speaker 10 (18:22):
So both parties have.

Speaker 17 (18:23):
Been doing it badly, so clearly it does need to
be revamped. There's a lot of tribalism and the teachers
and the union saying not to.

Speaker 10 (18:32):
You know, no one likes change, but we need it.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Hey, do you think Andy, when just going back to
your original point, when you when when parties say something's free,
do you think people believe it? Because you know, surely
no one looks at something saying it's free and goes
it's free. I mean, I think if there'll be more
on est, i'd say fund, we will fund, you know,
we will fund, we will allocate. You know, no one

(18:56):
will write that, but we will fund public transport, fear
cap to twenty dollars. We will fund doctor's villains so
you don't have to pay it whatever. But do you
think people actually hear freets free?

Speaker 10 (19:07):
Doctors develop it, they do stay here free?

Speaker 16 (19:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, it fires up the migdala, doesn't it When people
just see that word free and look on the sucker
to that as well. Yeah, yeah, I think it rewires
the brain. It shuts off the logical But when you.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Think it's like nineteen ninety five and you go, oh,
it's under twenty bucks, yeah yeah, nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, it's an interesting one because I feel like when
you blast around the word free too much, you start
to look a little bit. It just surely the people's
BS meter starts firing off, you'd think. So yeah. Yeah,
if you go to the NETS page, cost of living, relief,
rebuilding the economy, health, restoring law and order, education. In

(19:48):
this dodgy EPSOSCE number, where's were's crime crimes down at
nine in terms of the most important Yes, well it's
even lower than climate change. Climate change and climate change
and crime are way down there an a minute above education.

Speaker 15 (20:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I mean this so z that ring through.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
So would you make sense that inflation in the cost
of living or at the top, right, yes, in terms
of what people care about the most obviously then healthcare.
But then it says the economy and the economy is
exactly the same as inflation and the cost of living, right, Yeah,
what is that if it's not the economy exactly and
then house prices at four but as you say, as
people worried about it going up or down?

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Interesting, Yeah, what do you say? Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is that number to call and if
you want to send to ThinkX nineteen nine two is
that number?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Headlines coming up? It is twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 3 (21:54):
Thank you very much, ray Lean. So what are actually
the biggest issues for you right now ahead of the
election in ninety nine days time? Our one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is that number of cour This is
on the back of a the dodgy Ebshos poll who
made or suggested that labor, according to their own polling,
was the more capable of handling the economy, cost of living, inflation,

(22:14):
health and unemployment, the house prices, a myriad of other things. National,
on the other hand, was viewed as stronger on law
and order and defense, some foreign affairs.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Climate change, climate change, climate change, says this text, and
no point in anything if we can't live on the planet. Interestingly,
and even with this ipsos pole inverted columns, this IPSOS,
how would you describe it? Ipsos online discussion, which seems

(22:44):
to be quite heavily left leaning in its results. Right,
even then, climate change is so far down and I've
seen this quite a lot, how far down poles climate
change is. And I guess that's what happens when you're
in sort of tougher economic circumstances. Climate change it's more
of something that people care about when the economy is

(23:05):
going really well. Yeah, very true, when they have the
time to worry about it. But climate change and race relations,
considering how much you hear about them, very very low
down on the list of what people seem to care about.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
They get a lot of headlines, but just on that
as well, environmental concerns, that's down at sixteen. I mean
that's a big change, isn't it. Because traditionally, and maybe
it's the same thing as climate change, when times are good,
environment is pretty close to the top, if not the
top five, in these sort of poles. The poor old
environment's been chucked down to sixteen.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah. Poos in the water is very different from climate change,
doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Very true?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, Willington know that, Ye Alan, what's your thoughts?

Speaker 15 (23:44):
Look? I think with Gary about two or three back
talked about transparency and I absolutely agree with them. I
think I wish they would be transparent, but it's not
how this election is going to go. The unfortunate thing
about it, you've got a couple of leaders who are
basically just there after they're ten percent, and I'll just
keep on bashing out conspiracy theories. But my main concern

(24:08):
concerned is I've been involved with the Holidays Act remediation
for about ten or fifteen years. Now. They see out
that mess and the problem we've got in New Zealand
is that we're going to get a change of legislation
that Labour says we're going to reverse it, without giving
any details of how they're going to actually fix it.

(24:28):
They said we're going to reverse it. Well, if they
reverse it, you say, we're not going to be plunged
into a massive amount of we don't how to actually
manage this act and it's just going to be an
actually mess. But what they're doing is they're going for
the SoundBite. Oh you're going to be ripped off. A
lot of what they're saying isn't true or its spoken
brus The second thing I'm already concerned about is that

(24:50):
based on that, they're going to reverse all the work
done for charter schools was reversed last time, and now
it's been put in and at some stage Labor's probably
going to come out with all these charter schools are
going to go back. We don't believe in them. So
we have this massive amount of money that's being spent
inventing the wheel. Instead of you know, having some bipartisan

(25:14):
agreement that changes are made, they should have an amount
of time to see if they work, rather than to
go through and say, oh, this is just bad.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Hey, Alan, because you've been evolved involved with this holiday
pay situation and these changes, can you explain them briefly?
What has happened? Because ebster on social media, it's just
everywhere it's going basically, you're having your holidays taken off you.
This is this is cruel and inhuman and the government
hates you. What can you explain what's actually happened.

Speaker 15 (25:45):
It's very simple. Years ago, before the two thousand and
three acts, you've got eight percent of your hours. If
you work two thousand hours, you've got one hundred and
sixty hours in your leave bucket of life and that's
how it worked, and now we're going back. We're going
back to that now the two thousand Lead Act sid

(26:08):
if you work at the beginning of the year ten
hours a week, and then you go to twenty hours,
and then by the end of the year, before your
twelve months is up, you go to forty. If you
go on leave, you get paid your four weeks at forty,
which means instead of being eight percent of your salary,
it turns out it turns out to be about twenty
three percent of your salary.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
Right, So.

Speaker 15 (26:32):
It was mean to make things fair. But what it
did is because because the payroll systems in New Zealand
weren't comply until just recently, employers got hit with massive
remediation because you had to work out at the time
lead was taken what was applicable, but most people just

(26:52):
paid hours and that's where they got into trouble. And
there's still but we've had these things going since the
police got done many years ago. Police the police were
the first major case to come out of a review
by MB who after yere say, twelve years of silence,
decided they might actually enforce the law. Started bringing out

(27:14):
stuff and they started scouting that they were providing guidance,
albeit about forteen years too late, and then brought in
two hundred extra. They've inspect us to go out and
make sure that people were complying. I mean, it's just
it's a joke, absolute joke. NBA is a joke. I
can say that because I'm semi retired, so they can't

(27:34):
come back, and they are. And the thing about it
is that if neighbor's going back to the old they
really are going back to confusion. If an employer, if
you go on holidays in the new Act, you get
eight percent of your hours and your hours have to
be fixed. So if you're on forty hours, right, if

(27:55):
you're on forty hours a week, then you get paid
forty hours a week when you're on holiday, and if
you do any more hours during the year, you get
twelve and a half percent on those on those extra
dollars dollars amount paid at the time, right.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
So you're not gaining you're not gaining holidays, but you're
getting paid over time. You're getting paid for those getting
paid like.

Speaker 15 (28:23):
You didn't paid the margin on anything over then you'll
stand it out.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
So you're getting paid for your holidays within your overtime.

Speaker 15 (28:31):
It's like you're on You're right, you're on two rates.
You're on a per minute one and a casual potential
gets ye oh there. The new casual way is sixteen percent,
which takes into account. Used to be eight percee, but
now it's sixteen because it's taken into account sickly, So
you get your sickly paid plus your and your leave.
And it's a lot better because you're getting another three
percent on top of the right. It's it is actually

(28:53):
a lot clearer for employers and a lot clearer for employees.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
What about what about the what about the part time situation?
Because you hear about that, Where are we looking at
the part time situation? Because there used to be some
crazy stuff going on there wasn't there.

Speaker 15 (29:07):
Ellen, Well, if your hours went up, if you're a
part time you're working like ten hours a week and
then you went to twenty when you went on leave,
if that was your new standard hours, you got right twenty.
If you were on If you were on twenty and
you eat down to ten, you only got paid ten.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Right, and get paid even though you're doing those holiday hours.

Speaker 15 (29:30):
However, because you're paid on the on the it's not
so much hours as the average week, the earnings and
ordinary week earnings. So if you go from twenty down
to ten, your twelve month rate will be higher than
your four week rates. So you'll get us like a
hybrid between the two.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
But you understand this is why our employment lawyer that
we get on, Alan Gareth Bden will absolutely despised the
what they used to have and this is, you know,
part of the changes. But anytime the Holiday Act questions
came up when we've got them on, it just takes
his head as I can't believe this Act is a
dog's breakfast as it was now it's been changed.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
So you're listening to Ellen explain it there, right, But
if you go on social media, your algorithm will say
what's happening is evil, and it is. You know, they're
just trying to destroy workers' rights. Yeah. So that's the problem, right, that's.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
The danger that you can read the headline and get
outraged because someone says it's bad for you.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, but is it really? But have you actually had
someone explain it to you?

Speaker 9 (30:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Before you're outraged and liking a post and commenting on it,
have you actually understood fully. What is going on?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, yeah, if that's you, tell us I one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number. Allan, thank you
very much for your call. It is sixteen to two.
Back with more of your call, surely.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News
Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
There's fourteen to two. What is the biggest issue for
you right now ahead of the election? Tell us I
e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.
Nineteen nine too if you want to send a text.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Poor boy, oh boy. There's so much stuff coming through here,
isn't there?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, a lot of teacks coming through this one, sees. Okay, guys,
lower the price for bang and loose thin speakers gets
my vote. That's it. That's all I want. What bang
and loose thin speakers? Have you heard of? That must
be audio equipment, right, Aliston, All right, okay, I'll I'll
butcher that again.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Which parties? Is that? Something free? Is that sort of
the wear on the labor side that wasn't the number
one is shoe and the dodgy episoce pole wasn't in
the poll. Okay, right, good luck with that one. Very good.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Ah, remove GS two and fruit vegetables, then increase yes
to to seventeen point five percent.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Easy, simple. Okay, that's the Bisons solution, but not necessarily
one that anyone is putting out the few to vote
for them.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, Suzanne, what do you reckon?

Speaker 1 (32:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Very good?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
What's your thoughts?

Speaker 4 (32:06):
I wait?

Speaker 14 (32:09):
Great?

Speaker 20 (32:09):
Good, and I'm seriously considering quoting.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
Oh man, we really can't hear you. You sound like you're
on an airplane. Are you?

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Are you driving at the moment, Susan.

Speaker 21 (32:29):
I am, yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
You could you pull over and give us a little
ring back and jump off your your hands free. Normally
it works quite well, but we want to hear what
you have to say, Susan.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
We'll put you back to Andrew once you're pulled over,
will come back to you. But in the meantime, there's
been hundreds and hundreds of techs come through, so we'll
get to a couple of those.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
This one says, get a guys. Many will vote labor
because of the pay equity debarcle that labor will pursue
that will cost us millions potentially billions that will be
an election issue, mark my words.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
But I do think it is nonsense. You Labor is
going to have to say where they find that money,
because that's been taken out of the whole operation, hasn't it.
That's right, lads, thirteen billion or something. Lads love your show, Hey,
thank you. My Financial Advice has some ten plus high
net worth clients. We have portfolios in the ten million
to fifteen million upwards, strategic with very little debt and

(33:25):
total employees in various businesses and excess of fifteen hundred people.
If TPM tax people more greens, no more oil, use,
labor spend until more broke, then broke. There is a
plan in place to leave New Zealand financially and then
and some physically, and not to Australia. Australia is good
to build wealth with opportunities, but not keep wealth in
retirement years. New Zealand currently is tax stable for that

(33:48):
en Zi doomed if these tall poppy wealth taxes come
to beer.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
James, Okay, great text. I think we've got Suzanne back.
Kyday Suzanne.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
He so clear and beautiful.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, So I'm on the ground now.

Speaker 22 (34:07):
I just land yeah, welcome.

Speaker 10 (34:10):
Home, Thank you.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
I was a positioner and I wrote a submission on fireworks.
I did a lot of research into them, so we
were so pleased when the Select Committee members or voted
unanimously for a ban. They recommended to the government that
they actually banned them. In my evidence, I found, yeah,

(34:35):
there's four days for the retail sale of fireworks, there's
limit on pyrotechnic material. But there's actually no New Zealand
legislation on the letting off of fireworks, so it's actually
less to councils. And what I discovered after doing as
I say, months of research, was that majority of counselors
around the Motto do not have a bye law on

(34:56):
the letting off of fireworks. So when you think there's
a big issue and it's all on the lighting at
the fireworks at two am, five am, three pm, it's
because there's actually no New Zealand law.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
So does it come does it come under noise control laws?
Can people keep paying for making a loud bang in
the middle.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
Of the night.

Speaker 6 (35:14):
Yes, So if you ring noise control and say it
to Am, my neighbor's lighting fireworks, I'll say, you know,
give me an address and of course you give them
an execut address and then usually they want you to
ring them back half an hour later before they'll investigate.
But again, you can't just say, oh, look it's over
there somewhere. Yeah, so you.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Can and you can go, you can go. No, what
we weren't living off five weeks?

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Actually, yeah, exactly. And I looked at maybe asking that
it only beyond guy Forks night. Again, I enjoyed fireworks
of the caurd and I enjoyed pyrotechnics. That's at the
inaugural Warriors game in nineteen ninety five. And you know,
there's it's a time and a place for it, though,
because if you had it just on no remember the

(35:57):
first the fends would be completely overrun with callout, so
one night wouldn't work. Nobody seems to follow the rules.
There are rules, and ad Auckland Council have got bylaws,
but there's so many idiots that light the one ural
roads at the beach next to people's paddocks. They just

(36:18):
they just got no idea. I mean, they're young men
who you know half the time sorry sorry guys, but
half the time they're not They don't know rules and
laws and bylaws.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Anyway, So this is so this is the issue that
you really really care about, Suzanne, And so I guess
is it New Zealand first? That is as the most
you know, as the strongest on this.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
Yes, they have that. Winston's has come out and said
it will be a bottom line, bottom line coalition deal.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
And so does that make does that is that enough
that your that your passion for this particular issue, Is
that enough to make you vote for New Zealand first?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
It is difficult because I don't align with some other
things of you know what New Zealand. I'm very centrist.
Put it this way, I'm a very centrist person. We
you know, we need this, we need we need the
other and we need to do it in the best
realistic like just talking to that, just listening to the
man about the Holidays Act. And I know I tried

(37:18):
to look at what Labor had done and I thought,
how the heck does any small employer try to work
this out? It's just the minefield of no. Just yeah,
try and make things simple, Try and make things simple
for people to understand.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
So, because we're just going to go to the air break,
so just to just to finally get the answer in
that question, Susanne, what do you reckon? Would it be
New Zealand first for your vote on this issue despite
some some reservations.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
I think I'm going to have to here.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
There we go, there we go. Sorry, yeah, so thanks
for your call. Sorry, we're just going to go to
an air break. We're very very late.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yep, but good on you, Susanne. Thank you very much
and glad to get your back. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
News DOGSB, News DOGSB.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
It is four to to a quick couple of techs
here today, guys. Biggest issue for me is around gest
put it up to twenty percent and remove paye tex
And this one says get a guys, if we're really
struggling for text and come, would it be time to
relook at legalizing cannabis and get some of that sweet
sweet money? There you go?

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Oh there you go? All right, Yeah, great chat. Moral
of the story before you take anything on boards from
the results of a poll. If it's op done, it's
not really a pole, is it. Yeah, yeahs said, And
you know, if you're getting your politics after social media there,
maybe take the time to actually read the policies from
each individual party before you get too angry about it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Great discussion coming up after two o'clock. I want to
talk about problem gambling. This is after a gambler is
trying to sue Sky City Casino after losing millions. We'll
explain more.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Next, big stories, the legal issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tail Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Said me, very good afternoon. Excuse me to you. Welcome
back into the show. It is six pass too. Great
of your company on a Friday afternoon.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Hey, Tyler, yes, so. Up on the screen over there,
there is some highlights from the Commworth Games Bowls tournament
to watch. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, the kiwis are great.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
The skills out there incredible. They fire it in. But
it made me realize something and I haven't raised this
on the show yet. So I was the Super Bowls champion,
which is a Lorn Bowls tournament that's hold every year
at Mount Eden Bowls Club. Were you the champ?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
You're the raining jamp you know you know I was
the raining jamp you know, since inception.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Yeah, I was. I run the first two years. Now
third year I was away. This was this was a
few months ago. But I was on holiday at the
time and you were here and I said, Tyler, ye,
would you step in and compete for me in this tournament?

Speaker 18 (40:02):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
And I said, no problem, mate, I've got you back.
You know what I'm doing here.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
So I'm just wondering where am i My trophy is
from the Super Bowls tournament at the Mount Eden Boles
Club that I'd won two years in a row.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Did you lose? We did lose. So not only did
did we not get the trophy? And can I just
say Mark Kelly, who's a good man, he's helped produce
the show. He was the number two because we were
down a man. Obviously you went there. So it was
me and Mark Kelly. We knew the pressure on us.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Well, he's an athlete.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
He is an athlete. He's a tall man. He's got
the reach when it comes to that. I don't know
if that helps and Loan Bowls at all, but anyway, you.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Could both basically lean over and drop it on the jack. Yeah,
so out of four teams.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, yeah, as I said he at the time, mate,
I'm sorry to say that we came a lonely fourth. Yeah,
but we gave it a God's on a strike. I
mean you didn't tell me, mate, you said, look, you
don't need to practice, you can just get down there.
It's it's long bowls. How hard can it be. I've
been the champ if I can be. You know, I've
got faith in you. You put your faith in the wrong.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Person, I did. You came fourth. Yeah, so he's.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Got that trophy now I think ge Lane he wasn't
even there, but he's got the trophy.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
And Joe Drew.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah anyway, mate, Now you know, never never go away
when it time for the lawn bowls champs.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
Yeah, gutting, Yeah, anyway, there's always there's always next yit.
But the level of lawn bowls being played in Glasgow,
it's just phenomenal, right yeah, yeah, just like we just
watched three of the most incredible bowls in a row.
I mean, obviously you'd expect that it's the highest level, right,
but yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
But just how they do I mean she like, as
I said to you, I thought she's overcooked that. But
they must put spin on it, so it looked like
it was screaming in and then it pulled back right
at the last minute and just nicely set next to
the jack.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
So it's not like you with a beer in one hand,
just forget down.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Straight into the bunker. Andrews says, Do I still get
the couch?

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Yeah, yeah you can still. I'm still giving you that
couch tomorrow if you can come around and get it.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, absolutely, I'm helping you out there. Yeah, all right,
all right, we'll put that to Beard and let's get
into this one. We don't want to chat about problem gambling.
This after quite a phenomenal story. A high stakes gambler
is trying to sue Sky City with the court hearing
that he lost around thirty three million dollars at the
casino after spending get this close to half a billion dollars.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
I mean, that's insane. It's hard to I believe. I
thought this was a misprint when I saw the story.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah, I was trying to figure out where did the
half billion come from? But clearly over time he spent
five hundred million dollars and within that five hundred million
dollar spent he lost thirty three million dollars, So the
claim centers on allegations the casino failed in its duty
of care, with a man's legal team arguing he was
treated as a VIP and encouraged to keep gambling despite

(42:31):
clear signs of harm. The case is expected to argue
it's onguy and as we speak, that Sky City's actions
contributed to or enabled his problem gambling, while the company
is likely to defend its practices and deny liability in
this particular case.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
The numbers are staggering, right, and the losses thirty three million?
Did you say thirty three million?

Speaker 7 (42:51):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (42:51):
I mean that is a horrific number. I mean, we
get excited about lotto ones, lotto draws twenty eight million,
thirty three million, forty million. That kind of thing is
lost in gambling. How does it get that far out
of control? I can't understand it. And I guess that's
because I don't have that kind of mind, right, So
for people that kind of mind, gambling is just such

(43:13):
a powerful addiction. Yeah, because I just I just get
disinterested when I lose, as opposed to trying to want
it back. Yeah, you know, And I think there's absolutely
nothing wrong with a little bit of a flutter on
a sporting fixture. Yep, absolutely nothing wrong with it. But
for some people it just takes over everything. I mean,

(43:33):
just how much do you have to put through the
system to have I guess for one a better word
grossed five hundred million? Yeah, and that's how much has
been put has been bet right, Yeah, we have a
third thirty three million dollar loss?

Speaker 3 (43:48):
And why can't you say stop? You know, because this
is all relative on somebody's net worth. This is clearly
a very wealthy individual. But the same rule applies, right,
no matter what your net worth is. There's there's thousands,
tens of thousands of people out there that lose far
more than is healthy and cannot stop. At what point
or how does it get to that level?

Speaker 4 (44:08):
But whose responsibility is it? Because he's had a number
of opportunities to stop there, right with that kind of
money going through? Yes, so we know that there's a
a casino and everyone knows that the house wins. I
mean if you look at, say, for example, in Auckland,
what's the biggest building in Auckland, Skyttel. Yeah, So isn't

(44:30):
that a big symbol that the house always wins? If
the casino can build the biggest building in the city,
it obviously means that it's a profitable organization. Imagery there, right, Yeah,
So is it you know, is it their fault? Is
it anyone's fault that you have a gambling problem but
your own? Because you can find you know, if you've

(44:51):
got a gambling problem, you can find somewhere to gamble. Right,
So ultimately you're going to have to sort that situation
out yourself. Yeah, because if the casino says no, then
there's plenty of other places you can go and gamble.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
You'll find somewhere else here, online or wherever. Interesting question,
So what do you say, oh, one hundred and eighty
ten eighty, where is the duty of care life? And
how does it get that far? If you've had a
problem gambler in your life, or you indeed fell into
the trap of problem gambling, where were the signs or
what point did you start to realize that I've got
a serious situation here? Tell us O eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Is that number? Nine two nine two

(45:22):
is the text? It's thirteen past two.

Speaker 11 (45:24):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Your home of afternoon talk, mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons
call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
It is a quarter past too. So when it comes
to problem gambling, how do you let it get too far?
This is after a gentleman is trying to sue Sky
City after losing around thirty three million dollars and spending
close to half a billion dollars over a period of
three years. So the claim center on allegations that casino
failed in its duty of care, with a man's legal

(45:55):
team arguing he was treated as a VIP despite clear
signs that he had problems with gambling.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
The sixth says that looks like a lost rate of
six point six percent. I wouldn't be unhappy at that rate.
That's an interesting point, isn't it. I mean that's fine
if you go out of a night and choose to
spend one hundred bucks. Yeah, then that's not a bad
loss rate.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
I only lose six dollars and sixty cents.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
But when you're having five and a half a billion
through the system at loss rate starts to look pretty bad. Yeah,
David's how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 6 (46:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (46:28):
Not too bad? Boys, yourself very good?

Speaker 3 (46:30):
So what's your thoughts?

Speaker 9 (46:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (46:32):
Well, interesting when you you know, how this guy got
to that point where he lost so much. You know,
I'm not a gambler myself, you know, I put twenty
dollars in the pokies and I lose it, and I'm annoyed,
and that's me done, you know. But it's funny. You know,
whenever I think of the casino, or anybody thinks of
the casino, you think this big, fancy, posh place, you know,

(46:54):
where people are living it up James Bond, Yeah, exactly.
And then and you go to the Salkla Mine and
when you're in there, I just find it so depressing.
You look around and you can just twer by, like
the clothing that a lot of the people in there
are wearing that they should not be in building, you know,
like they should be turned away at the door personally.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
And yeah, there's a big difference is in there between
I don't know, a bunch of people, you know, around
a roulette table or you know, throwing dices or whatever,
and it's a big social occasion and the reality of
someone just sitting at a pokey machine and banks and
banks and poking machines, and you know, there's a big

(47:37):
disconnect between what the actuality and the and the dream
that's sold.

Speaker 21 (47:44):
Yeah, and it's it's quite funny for me. I'm in
my mid twenties and you know, sometimes I'll be up
with my mates in town. We would have had a
couple of drinks and we just think, oh, yeah, we'll
go to the casino. Why not. And the security is
so strict on people who are a little bit under
the influence of alcohol. They won't let them through the door.

(48:05):
But then it's full of all these people that you know,
address and rags and you know, look like they happened
eating very well and all this stuff, and they're all
allowed to go in and just blow as much money
as they want. Nobody prevents it.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
That's a funny idea, isn't it. It almost feels like
if you should have a standard address that suggests that
you haven't lost all your money gambling. It's basically what
he's saying, David, Well.

Speaker 21 (48:29):
I think there's yeah. I think if somebody is going
to walk into the casino and they can't even really
afford to wear something nice while going out, and you're
going to sky City, come on, as you know, so
the peak of the city sort of thing isn't it.
And if you can't at least even dress nice, then
you know, w yeah, maybe they should be. I mean,

(48:51):
obviously that will never happen, but yeah, I think that
could turn a lot of people away. But like you
guys said, they can go anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
A tuxedo and a ball gown. You know, if you're
not looking like you are in Monte Carlo, then I'm
afraid your last hundred dollars that you've got and your
bank account is not welcome here.

Speaker 9 (49:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (49:12):
Well, you know, I mean a lot of people wouldn't
have any money left after buying.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, But yeah, I mean, look, I witnessed
something similar not too long ago, David, when I had
to park my car under there and I needed to
go to the loose. I went up to the casino
and this is like at four o'clock in the afternoon
or four p thirty, just st after we'd finished the show.
And initially, you know, I just look around and that
there's no joy on the people that are on the
pokes in gambling at that time of the day, in

(49:38):
the afternoon and the afternoon, and you're quite right, they're
not dressed to the nines. If anything, it's quite quite
the reverse how I'm gonna feel. You know, I'm not
being judgmental here, but when I was walking around, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (49:47):
Man, this is a depressing place today.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
I don't know, I don't know if I want to
useless lou anymore.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, but you don't want to take away going to
the cast after you've had a couple for a little
bit of just add a little bit of something to
the night.

Speaker 3 (49:59):
Right, Yeah, that is fun. I mean that is joyful. Right,
you're around friends and family.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
How do you think, David. Personal responsibility, which is the
word that always comes into the us, you know, Yeah,
well it plays into into this discussion.

Speaker 21 (50:14):
Like you said before, Matt, you were going on about
you know some people that just they just can't control themselves. Yes,
it's strange. I've never understood it either. But I've got
a lot of friends, Like I've got friends who can't
go to a pub without going on the pokis, you know.
So there must be something in the brain of these
people that you know, it affects them. And I don't know,

(50:34):
maybe there just needs to be more awareness from society
as a whole and all the places that are you know,
holding these gambling you know, gambling activities and a casino
on that and stopping these people when they can see this.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
Yeah, well, I guess, I guess. I mean, the Gambling
Act is pretty clear that that casinos are not passive
that they simply accept bets. They have to run harmonimization
and host responsibility stuff, and they have to monitor prolonged gambling.
So they do have this. Then saying thing, going back
to your original point, David, is that this person, if

(51:11):
they're throwing five hundred million, they had the money to spend, right,
So this is a very very wealthy person. So you know,
are they a victim in the same way that someone
who I don't know has an addiction but doesn't have
a lot of money. You know, you feel like they
would have the resources a long time before they lost
thirty three million to reach out and get the help.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
They might need.

Speaker 21 (51:36):
Yeah. Look, and then that's a tricky one, I guess,
because to even be in a position to lose that
much money, you've got to be fairly intelligent and onto it. Yeah,
you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, but desinos would love someone
like that, what did they? I think? I mean, it
could also be the fact that he's just you know,
he's at rock bottom and he's like, oh man, you know,

(51:57):
and he's looking for someone to blame sort of things
for his own issues.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
But I mean they must have been they must have
been aware, they must have been aware of them. Right,
There's no way you can run a business saying you
don't see half a billion dollars going through your Central
Auckland business thing.

Speaker 21 (52:11):
Yeah, personally, I think you know, as soon as the
first couple of mill was lost, someone should have a
word or Yeah, I'd.

Speaker 4 (52:18):
Hope someone had a word to me after the first
five hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Was lost, Sarah, I don't know if you're going to
afford to lose that?

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Make me excuse me? He to get out of here. Yeah, hey,
thank you so much for you call David.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Thank you very much. So are you with David? I wait,
one hundred and eighty ten eighty And if you've had
someone in your life, well, you yourself had some issues
with gambling. How did you let it get get as
far as it got? And I mentioned it's pretty for
a lot of them. I imagine it's that hiding aspect, right,
is that if you get into that situation and you
hide it from people that do care about you. I

(52:50):
mean that, how do you do that?

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Yeah? Well, I mean you always think you can get
back out of it so you won't have to tell anyone, right, Yeah, yeah,
very true. You always think just just one more win
and this all, this problem just goes away. But I
think it's more than that. I think it's to do.
It's an addiction. And you know the dope, mean your
hits you get from the winds and the way it's
all set up. It is a real addiction. And and

(53:13):
addictions don't make sense. Yeah, So if you don't have it,
you look at it and you go, well, that doesn't
make any sense. But if you do have it, then
you're not thinking right, and it does make a kind
of sense. This is a good point from Graham. The
Auckland Casino when it first open had quite a high
dress standard. I remember that, no jeans or sanchoz, no
t shirts, and certainly no drinks. Now it's almost the opposite,
even jendles, I mean, is that true. I don't know.
I haven't been in there for a while. This person says,

(53:35):
you said dices? Did I rolling dices? Rolling die?

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Rolling die, rolling die? Yeah, Tumbling dice use dices?

Speaker 16 (53:44):
Can't you.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
Multiple dices are die. But I'm just gonna think about this.
I've heard the word dice is used legitimately.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I need to do some research on that.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
All right, all right, if you know casinos and dices
will die and give us a call. O eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty twenty four past two.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (54:19):
Twenty six past too. So we're talking about problem gambling
after a gentleman is trying to sue Sky City after
he lost thirty three million dollars over three years with
a total spend of half a billion dollars. But if
you've had someone in your life, will you yourself of
that had a problem with gambling? How did it get
as far as it gots? Tell us O eight hundred
and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
This is a scary text from Steve. The scary thing
about that guy is it won't be the only casino
a place he's betting at. Yes, Steve, I mean, if
youve got that kind of money, you're flying around different places,
aren't you? Very true? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:50):
Yeah, so half a billion here, god knows how much.
And Monaco.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
I mean these are all all.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Speculations, of course. Yeah, he dices carrots, okay, right, yeah, fair,
fair point.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Watches he dices food, says is tixer. Yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
A legitimate use. Keep those things coming through. But taking
your one hundred and eighty ten eighty hey you steph hey, hey,
note to chat with you.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
So what's your experience.

Speaker 20 (55:15):
Oh, so we've had problem gambling rot rad page at
our father for about three generations. It's started with my grandmother,
my mother, and now my younger sister who is only
twenty one. And when we look at the duty of care,
we talk about the to see those where do we

(55:36):
cross the line, Because when we look at somebody that
has one hundred dollars and they'll put an eighty nine
dollars into the pots compared person things to them who
has one hundred thousands, who's put an eighty nine thousands in?
How do we know what percentage or what we find
to have and say Oh, we think that.

Speaker 15 (55:55):
You have a problem.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
I mean, what's the answer to that, Steph, Did you
have you got some thinking on how that's dealt with
in terms of what someone can afford to lose?

Speaker 20 (56:07):
No, I just personally, I think that the whole poties.
You know, I was just a how Ord the other
day and I went to the bakery right there, but
all the day there's a big size tonkies it here.
I just think that it's just a waste of time
having them there, and maybe save these types of things

(56:28):
for the casino. You know, we're not going to have
somebody with their last one hundred dollars, that's for third.
They have forecasts. They're not going to walk it to
a casino, but they'll happily walker to the white Hart
Hotel at slat diety five dollars off the pokies.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Well, what do you think that so many generations of
your family have had a problem with gambling? Have you
know a generation seen a previous generation had a problem
and then found a problem in themselves. You have you
have any thoughts on that?

Speaker 20 (57:02):
Yeah, you know, my grand's parents grew up quite poor,
and if both my parents grew up quite poor, so
instead of saving the two dollars that they did have left,
they would go put on the pokies and try and
went for And then that came down through the generation.
So my sister has that same aspect. When she came

(57:22):
to buy o that same thoughts system. She came to
buy house.

Speaker 23 (57:27):
She was outside.

Speaker 20 (57:30):
The hotel down the road waiting for the poties to open,
and she had about thirty dollars and I said, well,
I'm going to go out for lunch. You do what
you want. She was really agree By the time I
got home she had lost all of her money, was
sitting there happy as happy.

Speaker 15 (57:49):
Yeah, happy, right?

Speaker 4 (57:51):
And did she have any money? Did you have any
money for lunch at that point?

Speaker 11 (57:54):
Or she did have lunch at Hope right?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
So, and have you asked her what she gets out
of it? You know, what what the feeling is or
what the attraction is. If she's losing.

Speaker 20 (58:10):
An entice is there to think that that kind of
web ye, and that two times she's going to go
with there she's going to win and then as a
guarantee win. That's the same. You know, we've seen it
a lot with the online pokes now that are coming
up everybody's or those those are not regulated at all.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Yeah, well, see that's the problem because if you want
to gamble, you're going to find a way to gamble,
aren't you, Stiff.

Speaker 20 (58:38):
Differently, you know we've got husbands doing it off their
wife's credit cards.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yeah, I mean it is desperately cruel if you know,
and I you've got experience here, Stiff. But a part
of that addiction is the facts that you feel you're
in a place that you need to get out of
and you need that win to get yourself out of
that situation. That is the cruelty of the sort of addiction,
right that.

Speaker 20 (59:03):
Differently, you know that the addiction we're all addictioned. Do
wait for anybody who doesn't care if you have food
in the cuppers, it's your good pictul of the table.
If your rents to be paid, you need that, and
you need that right now.

Speaker 15 (59:17):
And you know, when we.

Speaker 20 (59:18):
Look at by younger sister, she's about twenty one twenty two,
you would ever know that she has a problem because
she will go into there and she will have a
great little conversation with the person at the bar. She'll
buy her a drink and it, she'll go tap away.
Then she'll probably leave about thirty forty five minutes. But
what they don't realize is that she's tapped away for

(59:39):
that thirty five minutes and lost three hundred and fifty dollars.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Yeah, and does she have any self reflection on it?
Because you was this the same sister you said when
does she have any self reflection on it? Does she
ever go I need to stop or this is bad?

Speaker 15 (59:54):
So not at all.

Speaker 20 (59:55):
And we've told her, we've we have set her down
and spoken to her about it, and she just looks it.

Speaker 15 (01:00:03):
One day.

Speaker 4 (01:00:03):
She's got a web bag so that it's all worth it,
all all the best, that's stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, thank you very much for giving us a call.

Speaker 4 (01:00:10):
We're certainly complicated.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Yeah, absolutely so. One hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call if you've got a similar experience
to Stiff and you've got problem gamblers within your family
or you yourself went through it, keen to hear how
you got out of it in the end nineteen nine
to if you want to send a text as.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Well, just quickly before we go to the news headlines.
This is an interesting text that's come through. Hey, guys.
I work in the industry. There are stringent guidelines in
place to monitor pokey gambling behavior. If you withdraw money
twice from an ATM or gamble longer than three hours,
then by law I'm required to personally check in with
the gambler to make sure they are not exceeding their limits.
Pokey's are addictive and are engineered to draw punters in

(01:00:47):
and keep them playing. I believe the negative impacts of
gambling ultimately end up a community problem. Right, that's someone
in the industry.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Yeah, great text, keep those coming through. It is twenty
seven to two.

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Three headlines with railing coming.

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Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Thank you very much, Railean. So we're talking about problem
gambling on the back of a story about a gentleman
trying to sue Sky City after he lost thirty three
million dollars over the course of three years. But the
question put to you is how do you let it
get that far when it comes to problem gambling.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Whether you are a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
Multi multimillionaire, potentially billionaire, or a regular everyday person, how
do you let it get that far when you lose
far more than you probably should.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
With the Pokey's, it's they're so engineered to keep you
there and get the dopamin hits, with the uncertain rewards,
the you know, the the rapid play, all those kind
of things, the buzzes, the sounds, all of it on
top of them, the you know, the potential chance of
the money. They are just so perfectly engineered to keep

(01:03:10):
you there and to go one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, I mean to the point where correct me if
I'm wrong. But those very same activations were used by
social media companies. They looked at how pokeys work and
look at how it triggers particular things in the brain,
and social media said, thank you very much, we'll use that.
That sounds like it works a trick.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
And one of the things they do is the yeah, exactly,
they did the heaps of it, you know, pulling down
on a social media to get a whole new set
of things. It's very very similar to gambling and those
you know, there's little things like not knowing what to winners.
So let's say, for example, you might bet two dollars
pokys and you know, have a little win eighty cents back.

(01:03:51):
You still lost a dollar twenty just to make up
some numbers. But the machine does a big flashing celebration.
There's noise, so you feel like a win. And you
get these, you know, your brain feels like it's got
a win. Yes, even though the machine has taken one
hundred and twenty you know, a dollar twenty off you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
So it's I mean, the lights, the sounds, the celebrations,
the all of it. It's it's it's just fires up
your dope me and your reward centers to the point.

Speaker 10 (01:04:26):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:27):
It's for people that are susceptible to being addicted. It's
very powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
I haven't played it much, but the endorphins I've felt
when I've got some free spins, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
You know, and I'm not being.

Speaker 3 (01:04:37):
Hyperbolic here, but you get those free spins and I'm
not a mess of pokey man, but instantly it feels like, yeah,
free spins, like a drug is just hit you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Yeah, free spin. You've still lost the money? Yeah, exactly, Mary,
And how are you?

Speaker 16 (01:04:51):
Oh, I'm great, shame. I'm sitting in the sunshine in
christ Church. But it's supposed to turn pair however, I'm
making the most of it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:59):
Good on.

Speaker 16 (01:05:00):
I had this experience. I go to Hong Kong regularly.
My my son's are pilot, so he gets me up
there often. I went up there one time and it
was Chinese New Year and they had booked for us
to go to a water theater. It was an incredible

(01:05:24):
water theater show in a casino's permanently there. So we
caught the boat from Hong Kong to Macar. When we
arrived at Maccar at the docks, there must have been
sixty buses there from various casinos. So we hopped on
the bus to go to the Venetian, which is the

(01:05:46):
largest casino in the world. So we went and my
son said to me, oh, this is the one that
we come to whenever we come to Macar. And I said,
I didn't know that you went to the casinos. We've
never sort of done that before. He said, oh, yeah,
Weeken booked this time here. I was quite shocked.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Anyway.

Speaker 16 (01:06:09):
He reached out of the counter and so this is
for you and Amanda and I have got out things,
and I said, well, what do I do with that?
He said, it's for the pot and I said well,
how do you use them? They taught me, and what
he'd actually done. It would have spent ten Hong Kong dollars,
which was the equivalent of two New Zealand dollars each.

(01:06:34):
But right next to us the table, the minimum that
you could spend was twenty five thousand Hong Kong dollars,
the equivalent of New Zealand five thousand. That was the
minimum that you have spent. And I could see some
people losing your rag and I didn't run anything with

(01:06:55):
my two New Zealand dollars. So I wandered around, and
I couldn't see the end of the casino. The ground floor.
I could not see the end of it, and I'd
love to have taken a photo, but so much security
there because people do obviously go a bit berserk. And

(01:07:17):
then I wandered around and I saw tables at the
equivalent of three hundred and fifty thousand New Zealand dollars,
and it went up and up, and this was not
upstairs with the high rollers, and I was really disgusted
by it. Anyway. They then took me to the next
casino called the Parisians, and I just said, I looked

(01:07:40):
around here I said, I want to get out of here.
I just just get me out of here. It was
just so vulgar. It was horrible. And he was telling
me that a lot of the Chinese main name Chinese.
Of course, you can't gamble on in main name China.
They save up everything, even the village people, they save

(01:08:02):
everything up to come to Macau during Chinese New Year period.
It and gambled everything that they've worked for. But yeah,
the three hundred and fifty thousand New Zealand dollars. Once
I got to that point, I just stopped because it

(01:08:23):
was going up and up the further lot I walked.
It was just ghastly and you could see people it
was mean, mainly just starting to lose their call. And
of course, as I said, security, there was so much
of it. But I want to take a photo. I

(01:08:45):
couldn't see the end of the building. Wow, it's that big.
But as I said, it is the biggest one in
the world.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
So you just think about how much money is just
being generated by that casino. So as far as you
can see in the numbers of you know, minimum buy
and just getting bigger and bigger. I mean, just the
numbers must be insane.

Speaker 16 (01:09:09):
And when you think about it, when he said to me,
you know about these people from the villages, you know,
these farm workers and things that saved everything up to
come once a year during Chinese New Year to gamble everything.
You know that's so vulnerable that just it was just
such an eye opener. It just but then we left

(01:09:31):
and we went to the souther casino where we watched
this beautiful thetter on water. So it sort of took
away that ghastly, ghastly experience, really and I got lost
in this wonderful theater and water which is permanently, permanently there.
But it was it was an experience that I will

(01:09:52):
never ever stet.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
Did you went on your Did you went on your
ten ten bucks come dollars?

Speaker 16 (01:09:58):
I do not know. I didn't, but.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
I you had one, you might have been. You might
have been slowly going further down the casino into the
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars tables.

Speaker 16 (01:10:08):
I doubt it because I didn't know how to use
the machine in the first race. But I rang my
partner John, who's back in New Zealand, and I said,
oh boy, am I in trouble. I've got a little
bit of bad news for you. And he said what
And I said, well, Adam and Amanda took me to
Venetian casinos. We may have to sell our house. What

(01:10:32):
I got a little bit carried away. You know, I
didn't really know what I was doing, you know, because
I don't go to the casinos. And I got into
a little bit of trouble. So we can just discuss
it when I get home. And I really I know
I had him on, But I tell you, when the

(01:10:54):
casino and Christ Stitch first opened, I knew the marketing
manager there and she was telling me that it's one
of the tables. I don't know what it was. Somebody
you're in a on the bring carpet. They wouldn't leave
the table.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Leave the Yeah. That's that's the famous thing, isn't it.
Thank you for your call, Marian. It's the famous thing
that you know, you think you're on a roll, You
think that you've bought the time on that particular machine
or table, that if you leave, leave you lose all
that you've built up with your losses and your chances
of winning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
It's right the next hand, surely I've been here long enough,
it's going to turn for me. Yeah, thank you very
much for your call. It's dice is the plural.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, die is the singlar. Dice is the plural. Yeah,
thank you that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
Keep those teas coming through on nine to nine to two,
but taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
We're going to see a quick break, but we'll get
to more of your phone calls.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
We've got full boards.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
If you can't get through, keep trying.

Speaker 4 (01:11:51):
Macaw does at least sixty times to turnover of Vegas.
There was a point where Macaw was growing every year
the size of a complete another Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Right, Yeah, I'm fascinated by Macaw. I don't know if
you know, but it's kind of part of China, but
not really like Hong Kong. It's kind of it's semi autonomous,
so I can get around those gambling laws.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
Yeah, there's different. I'm not sure exactly, but you there're
slightly different. I mean, most gambling is banned in mainland
Chaian because the government knows very very focused on you know,
social harm and family finances and rolling with an iron fist. Yeah,
as this person texts out, no one is making you
go to the casinos. Life was full of choices. Okay,

(01:12:35):
do you agree with that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
Nine two text It is thirteen to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Three Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with You is your afternoon
rolls on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I'd be there's eleven two three. We're talking about problem
at gambling. If you've had a problem yourself will know
someone how did it get as far as it did
and how did they get out of it? Oh, one
hundred and eighteen eighty is the number.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
This sixer says. It's no different from fishing. I caught
a fish once. I've thrown a lot of money after
another first ever.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Since that's the worst sort of I mean, there's.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Probably similarities in fishing, right because you who it's uncertain.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Rewards Yep, yep, there's no guarantee. Yeah, you'll lose a
lot of gear and when you pull in a first
it feels amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
And then just between visits between going out on the boat, right, yeah,
sometimes it's just an absolute bonanza and sometimes you get absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Nothing, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
Yeah, So I wonder if there is probably similarity to that,
and maybe maybe we're evolved a little bit for that
kind of thing, and that it makes sense that's what
Gambler will be based on something that's innate in humans.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Yeah, I keep those seats coming through. But Trevor, what's
your thoughts?

Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
How you guys are right?

Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Good mate?

Speaker 11 (01:13:43):
Yeah, do not want to rung up without But that
last lady about Macaw, I mean it was really a
fascinating place. But if you want to learn about Macau
a guy that started all that, there're a guy called
Stanley Hope and if you just read about him and
the billions and billions and billions of dollars that went
through his hands and has found you hands unbelievable. But
just this guy in New Zealand that we're talking about,

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but I don't know whether you mentioned, but you know,
it wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't a New Zealander.

Speaker 7 (01:14:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I was wondering about that because if you've got that
kind of money, then you'd be able to fly around
and you're probably going to different, different, different casinos, right.

Speaker 10 (01:14:19):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 11 (01:14:20):
I mean, you know, I don't know whether people realize
I mean people take casinos pokys, but I guarantee you
that guy lost as not as money. He wouldn't have
lost his money on Poky's lost it on card games
and table games. And you know what happens when you
have a bet there. I mean I watched a guy once.
He wasn't in a whole lot high rollers room, but
he was beating one.

Speaker 10 (01:14:40):
Hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:14:43):
A hand of cards. And what happens, of course, and
it's another casinos. Of course you can't put that amount
of money on the table. So all his high rollers
they enlist themselves, and the casino say, look, you have
to put twenty million dollars in this bank account.

Speaker 10 (01:14:56):
It's in there.

Speaker 11 (01:14:57):
They go down to the tables and play, and as
they lose their money, the people, I mean normally a
lot of them like doing one on one with the dealer.
They're like just just themselves. If he's running out of money,
somebody down neges, I know, he's running out of money.
Has he's got any more money in his bank account?
And somebody up top says, on, you can spend another
ten million dollars. And that's how they do it, because

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obviously that amount of money just doesn't go across you know,
just does it is not? So I mean you can
play your twenty five dollar chips and your hundred dollar chips,
but when you're talking about their huge money, you don't
see that money on the table. But and of course,
what you gotta remember. I mean, a lot of people
will get upset if they fan ouse. But you know,
it's very well known that casino owners.

Speaker 15 (01:15:40):
They're high rollers.

Speaker 11 (01:15:42):
They especially from overseas. They will fly six or eight
of their family over. The guy will be enthusing you,
the guys and the gambling aways as millions of dollars,
and the casino will pay for their family to be
taken to Tapo fishing right Alton Harbor cruisers and stuff
like that. So so that I mean it is that.

Speaker 4 (01:16:01):
I mean, if there's a guy coming in, we're just speculating.
We don't know anything about this guy. It's interesting, So
five hundred thousand dollars has gone through there, he's lost
thirty three million. He's trying to take legal action because
so they didn't take harm. So he's obviously probably ended
up and it sounds like he's ended up in a
bad situation. But they must know. Yeah, as you say,
triv like if someone's coming in and spending that amount
of money, they're in very important clients. So and with

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that kind of money, they're gonna have people working for them.
So they're probably going to contact the casino first before
they arrive, Right, they're not just rolling through security.

Speaker 11 (01:16:30):
Oh no, they have to because you can't put that
man of money on the table. So you have to
have that money, and well.

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
You can't get it out of the ATM, that's for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:16:40):
From their bank account. And you know, I mean, Macaw
was fantastic, but I mean really, Vegas I think is
still the number one places and you see billion dollar
casinos there and they're all bullt from losers, not winners.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
You've had some good times in Vegas.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
Never stay more than three days. It's a good all
of the day, five days. Once in the last two
days worst two days of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:17:03):
Shall have a man after that, Right, It is six
to three, back in the month.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News
Talk said.

Speaker 15 (01:17:14):
B.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
It is four to three. Thank you everyone who gave
us a call and text through on that. And just
to remind if if you are listening and you're worried
about someone or yourself and you think you might have
a problem, member is help available? You can call the
Gambling Helpline on oh eight hundred sixty five four six
five five. You can also go to the Problem Gambling
Foundation website that's just PGF dot co dot zed or

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Safer Gambling dot org dot z as well if you
need a bit of help. Those options are available. Right,
great discussion coming up after three o'clock. I'm in the
market for a new Telly and I need your help. Oh, okay,
more soon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Talk said, b very good afternoons to you. Welcome back
into the show. It is seven past three and coming
up in about twenty five minutes because it is a
Friday the moment we will wait for new Zealander of
the Week. Very much looking forward to that.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Yeah, so, Tyler, there's something else we were going to
discuss at three o'clock, but you raised that you had
broken your television.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Yeah, it's gone caput, and I don't know if there is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:26):
Such a thing as a television repair person out there.
Anymore is there? I were one hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine two nine two. If you're repairing televisions back
in the day, though, if your TV broke down, a
television repair person would come around and fix it.

Speaker 18 (01:18:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Now a television breaks down, Yeah, it's basically landfall, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
That's right? Yep, Yeah, take it down to the tip
or a local park and have it out.

Speaker 4 (01:18:45):
Quite sad, isn't it. It is sad that they just
don't get repaired anymore, the big things, aren't they. Yeah? Anyway,
you brought that up, and the text machine and the
phones blew up with people talking about what kind of
television's are the best televisions to buy at the moment,
because it's very very confusing, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I went down a massive rabbit hole that was a problem.
So this this tally we've had for about twenty years
is no longer with us. And so then I thought, right,
how hard can it be?

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Defined?

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
Just a genuine nice TV for around about fifteen hundred bucks.
And as I started to go in into this rabbit hole,
I started hearing words like Q LID and O LID
and crystal UHD and quantum dots and mega contrast and
color boosters and photon beck lighting and I just looked.
I hit all these tabs open. I thought this was ridiculous, Like,
how hard is it just to say here's a genuine

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good tally and it's going to do. You're going to
be able to watch movies, maybe play a few games
on it if you want to do that. It's got
okay sound and all the rest of it, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:19:41):
Not going to break the bank. You've got to be
careful with TVs now and look, people will will know
what they're talking about and ring through an one hundred
and eighty ten eighty. But there's a lot of AI
stuff on TVs now and I just bought a brand
new TV recently and it's constantly pestering me with AI stuff.
I don't want anything to do with yep. I just
want to watch TV. Yeah, there's the streaming apps. You

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click on those, you watch your sport on Sky Let's
go yep.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Right, that's it. I don't want any AI generat whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:20:09):
I don't want to constantly haranguing me to set up
the AI content that I couldn't give less of a
crap about you know this picture settings, there's great up
and the picture settings that I want, and then it's
move on. Just the way companies are trying to insert
AI into absolutely everything is so desperately pathetic and buzzworthy. Yeah,
so what my advice to you would be is just

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don't even engage with anything that's his AI. Leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
The other problem I had that they're not too long
ago you had the brands that you could rely on.
You know, they were pretty good, trustworthy, the Sony's, the Samsungs,
maybe the Phillips. I think that's dropped off a little bit.
But that was the other problem. There's so many new
brands coming to the market that I can't get my
head around them. Tcl Cogan, I think was another one.
The warehouse offers is a Vivo that they I mean,

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they seem well priced, but I'm a bit dubious that
there's such a discount on them.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
Well, my whole life, I thought Sana Sony. I mean
obviously when I was a kid, it was Phillips. Yes,
I think this was the big dog was yeah, yeah, yeah,
but then Sony, Bravia or is always considered great. But
I said that before I said Sony is a good
they and someone takes it through and said you're a dinosaur.
No one buys Sony's anymore. Sony's good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Yeah, Bravia used to be.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
How much do you have to spend to buy it?

Speaker 11 (01:21:22):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:21:23):
So, what size do you want? Fifty five? Sixty five?
At least fifty five?

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
If I can squeeze in a good sixty five for
fifteen hundred bucks are under, I'll be happy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:31):
So how much do you have to spend to get
a good, solid TV that'll do everything that you need
to do, have a good picture and last a decent
amount of time. How much do you have to spend
for let's say fifty five inch? I'd love to hear
your thoughts on that. One hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Great Matt, shout out to Pitch and pixel in Christ

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that CHRISTI that fixed my TV? Did you even think
about trying to get your TV fixed?

Speaker 16 (01:21:56):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
Maybe there is someone that can fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:57):
Yeah, maybe I can get a bloke around to open
it up and fix it. Oh eight, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. But what do you say? Can you
get a decent fifty five sixty five inch tally for
under fifteen hundred bucks. That's going to do everything you
needed to do. Tell us nineteen ninety if you want
to send a text, they're coming through thick and fast.
It is eleven past three, beg very shortly. On news talks,
it'd be thirteen past three. So what is the best

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Telly you can buy? For around about fifteen hundred bucks,
sixty five inch and it does pretty much everything you
needed to do, and it's going to be future proofed
as well, because you don't want old tech, right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Yeah, Look, Sony is so good. Don't listen to those haters.
We've always had Sony and it lasts about fifteen to
two thousand for a good fifty five inch Sony.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
Alright, alright, so one hundred and eighty ten eightes number cool?

Speaker 4 (01:22:41):
Yeah, is anyone? So yeah, there's a couple of people
saying through you can you can get your TV's fixed
picks and picks will do a great job. Had my
three D TV repaired three years ago and still going gay.
It was top of the line at the time, the
old three D Telly.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
That's right, that was all the raids really well.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
So I'm just before you just have yours out the
window into the driveway, Tyler, have you thought about trying
to get it fixed?

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
You kill them? Dream here now, like all of a sudden,
I've got the stream of a new sixty five minutes, Telly,
get a Michael, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:23:14):
How are you going?

Speaker 14 (01:23:15):
I've literally just been through this and I started at
a sixty five yep, and let's just say I ended
up buying one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Oh, Michael, that's a big TV.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Is I don't know if I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:23:30):
It's like fying a diamond ring. Forget color clarity all.
At the end of the day, all all that matters
is size and does.

Speaker 4 (01:23:39):
Are you as yours attached to the wall or you
or you got it on feet on a on a
TV one of it box or whatever it is.

Speaker 14 (01:23:46):
Now I've got it actually on a cupboard.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
You can attest to the wall.

Speaker 14 (01:23:50):
Yeah, yeah, right, but yeah, I wouldn't go near the
high sense actually got a high sense and I end
up taking it back right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Let the cost go. I think costco operate those sort
of models, don't they.

Speaker 14 (01:24:02):
Yeah, but the problem is the operating system is just horrible,
and dealing with licenses a night mayor. I actually a
fitting one hundred inch Samsung. But here's the cell to you.
I got they've an entry level which is actually a
really good panel. And I think they're on special at
for three and a half brand, which for one hundred

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inch TV is insane.

Speaker 4 (01:24:25):
What was that brand again? Samsung?

Speaker 14 (01:24:27):
Oh Samsung?

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
Yeah, yeah, No, Samsung's got a good operating system, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
They do?

Speaker 14 (01:24:33):
But you also can got the Samsung channels.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
And I love the other thing.

Speaker 14 (01:24:36):
Eighties channels are phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
Yeah, I'm a huge fan.

Speaker 15 (01:24:40):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I'm glad you're bringing this up, Michael, because there's a
thirty Rock channel, one of my favorite sitcoms of all time,
and that's just on twenty four to seven thirty Rock.
There's an eighties cricket channel that just plays old games
of cricket. There's a Fireplace you can just put a
fireplace channel on. It's great, isn't it?

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:24:55):
It is?

Speaker 14 (01:24:55):
So look go sites the just measure the space that
it's going into, and honestly, big it is better to
get about old LAD and QLB and all the rest
of it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:06):
Yeah, they all ask the same.

Speaker 14 (01:25:08):
Unless you got them sitting next to it, I think
you can't really tell the difference. And again I come
back to a diamond. Yeah, can you tell that it's
slightly better color or clarity?

Speaker 4 (01:25:17):
What about if I give you this the spit metaphor though, Michael,
and it's the RaRo metaphor. So one leader of RaRo,
one sachet, one and a half leaders of water, one
sachet of RaRo. Technically more RaRo becaus it is good?

Speaker 9 (01:25:35):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Okay, all right, okay, okay, very good Michael, As answer
is yes, okay, which is good.

Speaker 4 (01:25:41):
Okay, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
One hundred inch if you go on one hundred inch,
let us know one hundred and eighty ten eighty And
if you want to send a text nine two nine
two TLC A lot of TCL fans out there, if
you've got things about TCL LG's good, right, get any
Samsung LG that you can fit your quote here. Once
you get it home and away from all the others
in the shop, will look amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
Yes see, that's the thing. You need to keep it
away from the other TVs that look better than it been.
How good are your eyes?

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:26:11):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Tory?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
Oh you might have just dropped off Tory, Hello, Tory.
All right, we'll see when we get Torri back.

Speaker 23 (01:26:24):
Hey, great sort of conversation as I'm driving into either
Noel laming or having Norman to picture.

Speaker 15 (01:26:32):
Some new TV.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
You beauty put timing for you and what are you
going for? Do you know?

Speaker 23 (01:26:39):
Not one hundred percent sure? My question really is I
want to be able to buy something that I can
get up and running myself, or do I have to
actually get the service TV service person to do this
for me? Any ideas on that one?

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Well, do you want to connect it to terrestrial television?

Speaker 23 (01:26:58):
I want to connect it to the like to the
Wi Fi so I can get all.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
That's pretty easy because you get on there and once
he's connected to the Wi Fi. Most of these TVs
I just sort of out of Samsung one the other day.
It takes you through get on the Wi Fi and
then then you just download the apps and then the
apps we'll have a QR code you you snap that
on your phone that'll take you through to the sign

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And it's actually really easy to set up a TV
these days. If you if you want to get if
you want to flick through, if you're doing just from
the apps, then it's very easy. It's a bit a
bit more difficult to find these days to try and
get it into a terrestrial channel type situation, you know,
like a you know, flicking through the channels whatever set up.
I don't know who ned that for.

Speaker 23 (01:27:40):
Ages, right, Okay, so I suppose it's the thing is
just to get somewhat something that's yeah, if you get.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
If you do you use Google? Do you use Google?

Speaker 9 (01:27:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
I do because because some of the TV's have the
Google operating system, so that'll be really familiar to you,
you know, and I mean so Android operating system. I mean,
so that'll be Yeah, that's pretty good for you. Samsung
has its own operating system, but that's pretty pretty user friendly.

Speaker 15 (01:28:10):
Okay.

Speaker 23 (01:28:10):
Oh that's brilliant, very helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Yeah, good on your Tory. I'd say no to the
the the upselling from the likes of Harvey Norman, because
they'll say to you and say, hey, look for an
extra one hundred and eighty dollars, we'll get a bloke
around and get everything sorted out for you.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
But beg yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
You don't need that bloke.

Speaker 21 (01:28:28):
Okay, I'll let you know how I go and how.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Many how big is the TV you're looking at? Tory?

Speaker 23 (01:28:35):
Good question, Do we want inches or I'm so I'm
a little bit concers. I think the one I've got
presently is a CBA vunch.

Speaker 11 (01:28:44):
But I'm going bigger.

Speaker 4 (01:28:45):
Yeah, you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Bigger than that.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Yeah, fifty five mini?

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
Did the other call a convince you one hundred inch?

Speaker 16 (01:28:51):
Not quite?

Speaker 4 (01:28:53):
Yeah, that's that will dominate a loungered.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
You have to curve that around the corner when one
hundred and eighteen eighty is a number.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Last guy was talking a load of rubbish. O LED
is miles better quality than anything else. Also, Hyacinth is
the biggest selling TV in Harvey Norman Australia. Selling doesn't
mean the best.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
Yeah, very true and quickly the six Gett guys went
down a massive rabbit hole on this sony seventy seven
inch Oh Leads, it's an absolute pleasure to watch. O
Lead is able to update all pixels at the same time.
All other technology types are variations of standard LED. Those
pixels update one at a time, which is why when
planning on movies or sports you get the jattering, expensive
but amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
This is I'm with yosh here who says, go Samsung,
same thing. TV's have all their free channels. The free
channels are great on Samsung. It's just Samsung TV, so
it come standard and just free channels worth you know,
endless there was endless whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
I need to look into it. So they had cricket
games from the eighties and that was just one channel.

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, there's like hundreds of channels or dozens. Yeah.
One of them, you know, as I said before, is
thirty Rock just all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
Good. That's a great selling point, right, Oh, one hundred
and eighty tenn.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
You got the at Gold channel, that's what it's called.
You got a FIFA channel, You've got an outdoor channel,
you've got a skate channel. You've got a true crime channel,
History channel.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Got read with the TV.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
You've got the movie hubs. They play good movies on
the movie harbst Movie Hub one and Movie Hub two.
Music channels, kids channels.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Real Crime, true Crime, History, and Warfare.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28):
You've got a twenty four hour MythBusters if you're into it,
twenty four hour Baywatch. You can watch nothing but Conan
O'Brien all day. If you remember that show Fear Effected,
there's a twenty four hour Fear Effected. There's a twenty
four our Antiques road show. Is this all free?

Speaker 9 (01:30:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
Mate?

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
NonStop?

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
Who wants to be a Millionaire?

Speaker 6 (01:30:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
NonStop? Ghost Hunters channel? How good?

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Hardcore porn?

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
Not that one, but Jesus total no, Sorry, it's a
TV show break on average.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Channel Matt Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred
eighty eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Very good afternoon, twenty four past three. So I'm in
the market for a new tally after mine exploded and
I went down the rabbit hole and there's too many options.
So what is the best tally out there? For around
about fifteen hundred bucks? Maybe I could squeeze it up
to two.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
The six is ol gtvs have lots of free channels.
To just saying I did. I didn't know that. Someone
else to say, there's lots of ads on the same
Sung TV channels. Yeah, because they're free. That's the thing
often if you know it's free, yep, and then there's
ads and that's what pastment. Yeah yeah, fair enough too.
Reminds me of the new stocks you'd be ton can
how are you? Mate?

Speaker 7 (01:31:35):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:31:35):
Good thing? Just looking at your what your price range is,
I'll go for the same Sung crystal. So you can
get to sixty five between you know, up to fifteen
hundred dollars and it's four K. It's got all the
three channels like Matt was talking about. And what I
like about it is the music channels are at the
seventy v thos eighties, nineties, Yeah, and also yeah, and

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you can download the apps if that's not on there,
and the remote controls Solar is free chargeable so you
don't use batteries all.

Speaker 10 (01:32:06):
The time as that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
I like the same Sung controllers. It's those cool little
black ones. They're very small, very intuitive, very.

Speaker 24 (01:32:13):
Small, and you've got heaps the button yeah to worry about.
Yeah No, basically I've got three of them. I've got
two sixty five and fifty five and I've never had
any issues with it. They're brilliant.

Speaker 15 (01:32:25):
Ya.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
This is the exact TV I've got.

Speaker 3 (01:32:28):
Is it the Crystal U HD?

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Yeah, it's good, right, Okay, I'm with Duncan on this, okay, yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:32:33):
No, And a lot of the three channels. I don't
want them all the time obviously, but you know, for
barely for money toilant you know that this world go,
it's not and you can get a sixty five easy
for around fifteen hundred, and they would be more than
You'll be more than happy with it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:50):
So they go bigger than sixty five. I mean, if
I'm getting a cut price right here, maybe I want
to go seventy five.

Speaker 24 (01:32:56):
Well we could look at that. But you know, yeah,
they do Sidney fives and crystals.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
But do you sell them those that are?

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
Are you in the TV business?

Speaker 15 (01:33:06):
No?

Speaker 24 (01:33:06):
No, Actually, my TV in my living rooms LG seventy
seven the latest one, but all got all the bedrooms
they're all crystals.

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Yeah, all right, good tip. I'll look into that crystal
UHT from Samsung and I do. I mean that's a
mess of selling. Point all those free channels, Oh one
hundred and eighty ten eighties and number get a Alistair.

Speaker 5 (01:33:29):
Hello mates mate, long time he yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
Very good.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Always nice to hear your voice. So what do you
got in terms of the telly?

Speaker 5 (01:33:38):
I have the best telly I've ever had in my life.
As an LG all Ed you had a call a
guy messager two or three minutes ago was saying, yeah,
the last chart was talking rubbish about the difference in
patric quality. All ED is absolutely unbelievable and LG is
the best in my mind the best TV.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
I'm not going to be able to get it for
fifteen hundred though, am I alistair? Unless it's falling off
a truck.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
Do you sound like a Scotsman with short pockets? No?
Just if you want quality, you pay for it and
it Believe me, it's worth it. Do you want a
good bed, You buy a good bed, you spend a
third of your life in it. Do you want to
tell it and you want to watch a lot of
Telly or whatever? I would recommend an LG and if
you've got the money, get an old edge. You can't
beat them and you can tell it to You could

(01:34:24):
talk to it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
Oh yeah, yeah. My TV's always trying to talk to me,
annoys me. It's like I've got in my hand. I
don't need to talk to you, so shut out. It's
already easy enough. Yeah I talk to you. Yeah, always
trying to tell me. But does the LG have Some
of people are saying that LG also has a bunch
of channels on it as well.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
It's good, Yeah, it does.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
It's good.

Speaker 5 (01:34:43):
So many I haven't even looked at them all. Yeah right,
there's yeah. Honestly, I've had Sam Sung before and then
I moved to this LG and it's it's absolutely fantastic,
only about four milimeters thick the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:34:56):
Right beautiful. Okay, all right, okay, did you pay?

Speaker 5 (01:35:02):
I'm not saying it's worth it. It's come down a
lot in price, but if you can go for it,
old ed, you'll notice that the if you have to
have you got to Harvard Norman door. Listen to that
shade about getting gold plated HDMI cables. Normal cables are
perfect of a good deal.

Speaker 4 (01:35:19):
Yeah, nice to hear from you, mate, that's what the
Scotts said. The Scotsman says, yeah, LG okay, but Strangy
he doesn't care about the price. He's like, yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
I think that is where we'll leave it. I mean,
there's been so many peaks and so many calls, so
I overthink Samsung Crystal, UHD are.

Speaker 4 (01:35:40):
You going to get the extra care cover, insurance, five
year warranty wounder. I think I will. Don't.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
Don't just waste the money by the TV that's not
going to break. Just roll the dice.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
Yeah yeah, all right, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:35:53):
Very good.

Speaker 4 (01:35:54):
All right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
Coming up NIXT we get the headlines with Raylen Ramsey
and then because it is a Friday New Zealander of
the Week, it is twenty nine.

Speaker 19 (01:36:01):
Past three News talk headlines with Your Ride, New Zealand's
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in Gaza, The BBC reports the senior HAMAS official confirmed
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had reached a disarmament deal with Hamas and other armed groups.
I must expects immediate humanitarian measures. Electrification could play a
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Business end z Energy Council and the government's Energy Efficiency
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(01:36:44):
renewables could reduce overall costs. Opportunity Party leader Qla Wong
says the party vote is their main priority in the
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business to avoid a stunt in economic progress. The South
Island's eight Chambers of Commerce have shared a joint manifesto

(01:37:07):
calling for policies to lift productivity, incomes and living standards.
The seven D cluttering midst keeping you from cleaning up.
You can find out more at zidherld dot co dot inset.
Back to Matteth and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:37:22):
The Matteath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 4 (01:37:27):
Good news, News Dogs here be. It's time once again
for the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander
of the Week. As always, three great New Zealanders shall
be equally honored. And remember any person, group, animal, snack
or type of shop can be honored. So let's get
on with it. The English cricket team will continue to
be under New Zealand control after New Zealander Ben Stokes

(01:37:51):
retired from the team. New Zealander Bas McCollum continues to
be the white ball coach, but is now joined by
New Zealanders Stephen Fleming as the red ball coach. New
Zealand a country of five million, England, a country of
sixty plus million, sure needs a lot of us just
to show them how to play the game. They have
been tested by goodness. It's goodbye bars ball, Hello Flemball.

(01:38:13):
Stephen Fleming, you are a New Zealander of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
They may smell a little musty from time to time.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
They may be under siege from scum who dumped their
rubbish out front, or the shops are closed. They may
not always know the true value of the vintage clothes
hanging on their shells. But Kiwi Opportunity shops are kicking
ass humping seventy eight million dollars into social programs over
the last year. Whether it's a fifty cent thumb copy
of the Da Vinci Code, a four dollar pleather tassel jacket,

(01:38:45):
a one dollar copy of Franklin Comes Alive on vinyl,
Forrest Gump for three bucks on DVD, or an assortment
of deceased old man's box a shorts to twenty five
cents a pop. Oop shops and They're mighty volunteers are
saving the country one sale at a time, and they
are a New Zealander.

Speaker 5 (01:39:03):
Of the week.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Every elite Kiwi athlete faces seemingly insurmountable challenges on their
way to gold. How they deal with that adversity and
keep going is the difference between the good and the legendary.
This week, amongst a brutal Glasgow down for heroic New
Zealand sprinter Zoey Hobbes found herself not only fighting the

(01:39:35):
limits of her physical excellence and a field of top
international competitors, but she also had to battle through her makeup.

Speaker 25 (01:39:47):
I started to go a little bit blind on the
start of the line because it was that trench all
that my makeup started to run.

Speaker 6 (01:39:52):
Into my eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
I was like, oh, I can't wipe my eyes because
I'm just gonna get black eye.

Speaker 7 (01:39:56):
Every man.

Speaker 4 (01:40:00):
Zoey Hobbes, a one hundred meter gold medalist and more
importantly a mad heat and Tyler Adams after modes on
you talk, said, be you Cylinder of the week. Take
it away, Sir Howard Morrison.

Speaker 7 (01:40:38):
I had really good stuck. I actually had a bit
of a stumble and pets to recover myself, said, I
know the resistance of Laaren. I managed to.

Speaker 11 (01:40:53):
Hold them up.

Speaker 7 (01:41:02):
I don't like how didn't put into that.

Speaker 25 (01:41:05):
Craserdn't even know if I'd be able to make your games.

Speaker 11 (01:41:26):
And here I am.

Speaker 5 (01:41:26):
When you play a gold.

Speaker 22 (01:41:27):
Medal, it's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams another outstanding one
of the New Zealander of the Week right coming up
next to fantastic new Kiwi show that is on Neon
as we speak, called The Last Moa We're gonna have
a chat with one of the creators next.

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
It is twenty three to four.

Speaker 1 (01:41:45):
Have a chat with the lads on eighty Matt Heath
and Taylor Adams afternoons New Stalks.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
He'd be New Stalks said, it is twenty to four.
So The Last More is a fast paced animated local
comedy created by Vinewood Animation, founded by Matt Heath and
Phil Bruff. Thought to be extinct for centuries, They're not
so bright. More is the last of her kind, But
when the fame hungry trapper Teed comes along, calling who
fiercely loyal guardian Kiwi pulls out all the stops to
keep her safe and sound. So set against the breath

(01:42:14):
taking expense of rural New Zealand, It is available to
watch right now on Neon.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
That sums up there show pretty well, doesn't it. Hey?
Here's the theme tune to The Last More.

Speaker 18 (01:42:26):
More more.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
Catchy, isn't it?

Speaker 10 (01:42:33):
This is great?

Speaker 5 (01:42:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
Welcome to the studio. Head of animation and director of
The Last More, Philip Bruff.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
Hello, yead a mates, so fantastic idea, But explain the
thinking behind how this idea came about?

Speaker 5 (01:42:48):
Well?

Speaker 13 (01:42:49):
Always loved Roadrunner and Slapstick also get sick of doing
lip sync, so it was nice to just go dialogue free,
just you know, a dude chasing down instead of a
roadrunner a moa sitting in New Zealand. So we can
just get this go beaten up as much as we can.

Speaker 6 (01:43:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:05):
Yeah, so the show's animated, of course animated, yes, yes,
so three three D animated. So you've got a farmer,
got a farmer yep, and he wants to not eat
the more No, he just wants to catch them.

Speaker 13 (01:43:20):
There's no real he wants he wants fame and glory.

Speaker 22 (01:43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:22):
So he's the wily coyote and the moas the road Run.

Speaker 13 (01:43:26):
Yes, and then there's a Kiwi who helps out as
like the motherly figure to them to the war.

Speaker 4 (01:43:30):
Yeah, there's a key in there as well. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
So what was it about that you love so much
about Road Run?

Speaker 13 (01:43:35):
Just that slapstick, like you know, constant him just coming
up with a stupid plan and then basically smashing himself
on the head and just the way you know the
slapstick works. It's just always a surprise. Hidn't you know
what's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
It's just the way he MUCKs up.

Speaker 4 (01:43:49):
And full disclosure, The last MOA is made by Philip
bruff here and my animation company, Vinewood Animations. So I
just got to say that, right, yes, yeah, you've got
to get that out there. That's got to get that
out there.

Speaker 7 (01:44:05):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
The thing is this show has made what I mean,
it's ridiculous me asking this question, but what age group
has it made for? Philip?

Speaker 13 (01:44:11):
Well, I guess like about five to I don't know.
It's sort of like kids basically, but you know, not toddlers,
not little like, although little kids might like it, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:44:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
The funny thing is, I think is that when we
were a lot younger, because phil and I went to
high school together and we've had this company together for
a long time, but we first made started making TV
with a show called Back the Way Masterpiece Television a
long time ago, which was a very very violent human
stunt show. Yes, but the slapsticks kind of the same, yeah,

(01:44:45):
but directed at kids, right, yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 13 (01:44:47):
In fact, I was watching it the other day for
the back of the Wife for the first time a
long time, and that but where Chris wind gets punched
and his hat goes flying in the air and flips
twice and then lands back on his head.

Speaker 4 (01:44:57):
Yeah, it's such a good gig.

Speaker 13 (01:44:59):
It's an accidental gig, but then to lean into it,
it's brilliant.

Speaker 6 (01:45:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:03):
Yeah, So very little development in your humor in twenty
five years evolved.

Speaker 5 (01:45:07):
He it works.

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Yeah, yeah, So to us through the animation process, I
imagine it was it was a long time to build
up your own animation in the house and get it
to where it is now.

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
Yeah, well there was.

Speaker 13 (01:45:18):
There was actually three of us who animated on it,
and we there's a guy Terry Knees, the other director
on it, and he built the You build these characters
and they take forever to sort of model rig and
then you've got to put fur on them and groom
the fur. So he did all that because that's too
complicated for me. And then we use a lot of
mo cap or we just keep frame hand animated, right,

(01:45:39):
so motion captures. Yeah, people act out, you know, you
get all these sensors on your body, although now I
think you can just do it with cameras and then
you just convert that onto the character so you don't
have to go painstaking the animate everything. So is that
similar to the old Smeegel effect they did, right, Yeah, Yeah,
it's just yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
Yeah, kids love Slapstick, don't they?

Speaker 13 (01:46:00):
They do.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
I mean we've been getting seen a lot of shots
of kids standing in front of televisions mesmerized by the
show since it's come out. I want the way that
is why kids enjoy a cute thing running along and
then something smacking its head.

Speaker 13 (01:46:15):
I do not know, but I still enjoy it. So
maybe it's just some Yeah, we like to see that,
that surprise and then that laughing at someone getting the head.

Speaker 4 (01:46:23):
Heaven't and we watch on it.

Speaker 3 (01:46:24):
I mean you mentioned it's for for younger kids, but
clearly there is something there for the parents as well.

Speaker 4 (01:46:28):
Were has a fun watch?

Speaker 13 (01:46:29):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of it. That's like a bit Yeah,
I think, yes, Slapstick and that kind of thing just
hits all ages.

Speaker 4 (01:46:36):
So other shows that you've made film, Yes, Welcome to
Cupboard City, Yes, which is currently available on TV and Z.
Also Goodbye AI Yep that year we made during COVID,
Yep we came. And this is the third kids TV
show that you've directed.

Speaker 3 (01:46:54):
Yes, yes, yeah, it is brilliant and so just from
conception to completion, how long are we talking about to
deliver something like this. Well, that took about ten or
eleven months the actual production, but we spent about a
year coming up with the concept and then pitching it
and waiting around for that kind of thing, slowly developing
the idea.

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Yeah, what's too far when it comes to kids television
because nowadays, you know, Wiley Code would have guns and
rockets and yeah, not really guns, but he'd be running
along with a knife and fork. So he was clearly
wanting to eat the road Runner. There was explosions, there
was rockets. There are some things that that things have

(01:47:33):
changed a little bit, right, There's there's there's there's a
there's a set of things that you can't really do
with kids anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:47:38):
I figure guns is a big one. In fact, Yeah,
Steven Spielb took the guns out of ETA for a
little while, right, and then replace them with walkie talkies.
But then fount embarrassed and put the guns back.

Speaker 16 (01:47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:47:48):
Yeah, but I figure guns is there's just the one
in my head. I'm like, I guess we don't put
guns in there or we should.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Be all right, just from my emotions, all right, Yeah,
was here controversy around road Runner when it was when
it first came to TV around those explosions and eat
me and all the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
I mean, there was a huge uproar back in the
day that kids were just watching and and violent television.
That's what it's in Scratchy as reacting to on The Simpsons,
which was the moral panic that shows like The Road
Running too violent, right, yes, yeah, and that she in
Scratchy took it to another level, to the point where
it's just so incredibly violent. So yeah, back in the

(01:48:24):
day it was, it was, it was a big issue.
But now sweet ass.

Speaker 3 (01:48:28):
Yeah, so feil, where can people watch Neon or sky
open and use the Skygo app? And it's going to
end up on the insit on a Tamariki YouTube channel soon,
kidogo brilliant? How many episodes?

Speaker 5 (01:48:42):
Ten?

Speaker 13 (01:48:43):
Ten short apps as well, but they'll just end up
on socials yeah right yeah, And how long is an episode?
About five minutes?

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
Ideal?

Speaker 4 (01:48:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
All right, yeah, brilliant. Go check it out. It is
called The Last More. It is available right now on Neon.
Felt great to see you man.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
You too, Thank you should We have a little bit
of a blast of the theme tune again. You get
ready to Here we go, go, Here we go. Yes, boom.

Speaker 9 (01:49:11):
Whoa.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
This is clearly a tribute to Yellow.

Speaker 18 (01:49:16):
War.

Speaker 4 (01:49:17):
Oh yeah, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:18):
It's funky jin.

Speaker 15 (01:49:20):
More more.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
Matt Heath and Tayler Adams Afternoons News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
News Talks ed B. It is tender for and just
a reminder, go check out The Last Mia. It is
available right now on Neon Season one. Fantastic watch, so
go and check it out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
All right, that's the end of the show. Thank you
so much for listening, and thanks for all your calls
and texts.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Yes, and every week we get so many great kiwis
calling into the show that we pick a caller of
the Week each Friday. And this week we had a
great chat about shed's after you Matt Heath needed some
help with figuring out what sort of shed you needed
in your own backyard when we had a call from
Peter and Peter had the ultimate shed situa wah and
have a listen.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
What kind of stuff does she get up to in
the she shed?

Speaker 9 (01:50:11):
I don't ask fair enough?

Speaker 24 (01:50:14):
Is the shesh had?

Speaker 4 (01:50:15):
Is the she she shed? Nicer than your two he sheds.

Speaker 9 (01:50:18):
Had to say, So it looks like it looks like
it belongs. And in front somewhere, you know, mainly to
clean it's shutters. I've got small plane windows, all of
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 24 (01:50:31):
It's great for her with.

Speaker 5 (01:50:33):
With with her girlfriend.

Speaker 9 (01:50:34):
They go and then they have high tea.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
It's a wine shed well and right outside the shed
French stores that open up and right outside the shed
table and she is onto the.

Speaker 9 (01:50:43):
Deck which all fit under a purglar for entertaining.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
I've got I've got one side of the deck with.

Speaker 9 (01:50:48):
Four barbecues on it, so charcoals, weaber gas, a smoker,
three main ones I got here and then I've got
a little one.

Speaker 10 (01:50:55):
Then the other shed I got is one of those
seed sheets.

Speaker 9 (01:50:58):
I've got a small window in it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
And I said, look back and I can look back.

Speaker 10 (01:51:01):
At the my wife's shed and the.

Speaker 9 (01:51:05):
And the deck.

Speaker 4 (01:51:06):
I just sat by myself in the shed looking through
a small window back at the house, drinking a beer.

Speaker 6 (01:51:11):
And I.

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
Have done that on occasion.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
So I'll tell you one thing.

Speaker 9 (01:51:17):
The she shed that we built the deck, which is
a big deck turgo of the whole lot, including all
the electrical work fifteen k and what else do you want?

Speaker 5 (01:51:26):
That perfect?

Speaker 4 (01:51:27):
Life's perfect? He solved it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:29):
There you go, mate, So that is the ultimate situation.
And actually you're being very busy this afternoon designing.

Speaker 4 (01:51:34):
Yeah, I've been designing a shed on the bit of
paper for the last couple of hours, four hours. I've
been working on this. All we looked there.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
I mean, you've you've put some like an architect.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
My mate Mike has said that he'll help me build
the shed because I couldn't quite find a prefab shed
that fits exactly what I needed, which was the following things. Ye,
an area for two bikes, an area to keep all
my garden equipment and tools and lawn mower and such.
And also a little bench under a small window that

(01:52:04):
I can, you know, tinker away at stuff and look
out of the tiny go back at the house, and well,
Tracy's in the house doing her stuff, so I can
look back and tinker.

Speaker 3 (01:52:13):
You've thought of everything, I mean, just in this little
design that you've got here. You've got yeah, you've got
space for the two bikes. You've even drown yourself in
that little window, looking lovingly back at Tracy in the house.
And you've written here at little bench under the window.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
I sent that picture to my mate because he said,
what do you want? Draw a picture of what you want?
And I sent him this and he replied that is
less than no information.

Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
Yeah, you've got some week to do, mate, so good
luck with that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
Yeah, all right, Ryan is in for Heather duper c
Allen up next with your drive show and they've got
a lot of good stuff plans. But right now, Tyler,
my good buddy, why would I be playing this song
from British rock band Dire Straits album Brothers and Arms,

(01:53:05):
the second track on their fifth studio And why would
I be playing this song?

Speaker 3 (01:53:10):
What an absolute tune The riff in this particular song,
so money for nothing, I'm gonna I'm going to take
a stab here is it? Because after one o'clock we
had to talk about what is the biggest issue in
New Zealand at the moment. There was a lot of
talk about various policies and Labor says on their own
website that there's a lot of free stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:53:28):
Incorrect, okay, right, absolutely incorrect. Because you want to buy
yourself a new TV and people giving you a lot
of advice and The lyrics to the song were written
by Mark Knopfler when he was standing in an appliance
store and he was looking at the new TVs. And
all the lyrics in the song is a conversation between

(01:53:50):
two men talking about the TV they wanted to buy
great work in the department store in the nineteen eighties.
You've done it again, Matt Heath. Thank you. When are
the Warriors playing five.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Pm tomorrow against the Titans? So big match there, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
And of course all your Commonwealth games action across the weekends,
all right, ladies and nim you see busy. Will let
you go on, Matt Heath And that's Tyler Adams and
we'll be back live on your radio from Monday afternoon
until then. Give him a taste of kiwi from us.

Speaker 19 (01:54:25):
What chilren to play the guitar?

Speaker 18 (01:54:30):
I should learn to please chance. Look at that moment.
You've got to limit cover of men as on the
what the Hawaiians. Oh that's the way you're doing. Good job,

(01:54:51):
learning for nothing.

Speaker 26 (01:54:52):
Get to checks. We got to get Michael, got the
kitchens to live away. We got to move to rereadres
got to move pas.

Speaker 18 (01:55:07):
Colog that's man's that ain't working. That's the way you're

(01:55:29):
do it. You play the guitar on the MTV that
ain't working.

Speaker 2 (01:55:36):
That's the way you do it.

Speaker 18 (01:55:38):
Money and phone out there and your chicks for breathing chicks, chick,
look at.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
That, Look at that, chicks, Money Madden Tyler.

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