April 22, 2026 • 10 mins
An Auckland man wants better management from a rural pub after his 3-year-old grandson was assaulted by a drunk patron.
CCTV footage of the incident showed a patron standing two tables over had walked to their group and smacked the child's bottom.
Caller Morris joined the Afternoons team to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow
this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So is it ever okay to tell off a child
in public that you don't know, or even give them
a bit of a slap on the bum if they're misbehavior.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Nine two ninety two is the text we mentioned before.
We've had a phone call from the gentleman in question
who was the alleged bum slapper, and his name is Morris.
He's on the phone. Get a Morris YETO boys, how
are we not too bad?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So talk us through the incident from your perspective, Morris.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, the first thing is I was not drunk. I'd
only been there for twenty five minutes. I'd gotten into there.
Who are p They have racers there on and all
the rest of it. It's a family bar and it's
full of kids, and I went in to watch mates
r horns racing. It was about eight or nine of
us who was racing charted, which is a big thing
to have a horse over there racing. This particular child
(01:06):
had been there for we while the moment were out
watching the band and the kid was running around in
the restaurant area out of control, and there was a
fifteen year old climber look after him dragging around. After
about twenty five thirty minutes, as kild scream it you're
not to screaming and running around in the bar's full.
He then started throwing thing because he was ready to
go home. He had nappy's on, so he would have
(01:27):
been sort of three or four. The mother was dragging around,
he'd run off again screaming, and then what had happened?
He started throwing stuff? So what I did? I went
up there and she was dragging him and I flipped
him and not a slap, not a belt, just a
little click to get his attention, which I got. Waved
my finger and as that guy said, I've had enough
(01:48):
of this. You don't sit down in that chair or
buy kriaki, and that was the tone of the voice.
I then picked up all his toys and gave them
back to said behave. Then I sat down nothing. I
walked back to the table. She got up and side
of screaming at the top of the was that marries
assaulted my child? Did everyone see it? And then the
Chara started and absolutely started. Now it was just ridiculous.
(02:14):
Then the fire the grandfather got up to recognize was
starting whole time. Well, he tried to stop all the
locals having a beer. And the one one one there
is an awpathetic It was that our grandson's being assaulted. Previously,
he was so busy eating his food. They wouldn't pay
the kid any attention. And that's not the kid's fault.
And I should not have slapped that little kid on
(02:35):
the bumble, flicked them all, touched or done anything. I
should to let him alone. And then what would have
happened if he'd done something and had another kid, then
he was held to pay. And these parents paid no
attention to a three or four year old little boy.
And that's the sadest thing. And instead of actually owning
and accepting responsibility, and that was my kid, and this
is the worst thing. I had to go to the
(02:56):
police station and please explain, which I did. And the
officer there was so good. He said, I don't even
want to do anything, but I've got to tell you
off for being a naughty boy. He said, you're not
allowed to put your thingers on anyone. And he said now,
please don't do it again, which I got a lead
of saying that, which I've obviously won't do that again.
Looked my lesson and he said, but I'll tell you
(03:17):
that's off the record, he said, And that was my child.
I would have been so embarrassed and I would have
taken them home. And that's what he said, right, And
that's where it all ended. And what's really really sad
as the lady at the pub, she's a school teacher.
She's actually a hell of a good person in the community.
And I'm talking like a great support of the local community,
sponsors all sorts of things, does every single thing. And
(03:38):
the only thing she's had now is just this bad
publicity which has nothing to do with her. It should
all be on me ever anything.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So just just to go back a step, Morris, So
when you say you said you flick the kid to
get the kid's attention, is that right?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And had you had you tried to talk to the
parents and with the grandparent or the parents before then.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well the parents, you know, when you explained to them,
they said, oh, sort the shit out. They just tear
it on as if nothing happened. And that's the saddest
thing about it this when this had been going off
about an hour and three quarter two hours, and heaps
of people that tried to sort of say, hey, so
what you get out, and they just ignored it as
that's our right. And I'm not knocking. Well, I'm not
(04:18):
saying that what I did is fear. But what I'm
saying that child was out of control and they had
there was a young girl there trying to look after it,
and Market and Grandad were too busy having your dinner
and looking after your child. And that's the saddest thing
because you know, sometimes in life and what I did
is not and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else
to do it, honestly, because since this come out, my
(04:41):
name has become public. He's now told you until he
found out my name of the day when they had
the hearing. I've had all this tom marketing from all
these idiots saying I'm an animal abuser, I'm lead of everything,
and and and and so. But you've got I think
in life you have to you know, if you go
to a restaurant, you're sitting there and my kid's being
really really naughty, you have a right to eat in peace.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So, so what exactly just to describe again, Marris, what
exactly was the kid doing to to disrupt things?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Running around the bar, screaming at the top of his voice,
and he started throwing things at people because he wanted
to go home kind of stuff. He threw a Sultan
pepper shakery through a couple of knives. They they've got
to all to cut to mark place. He grabbed stat
of throwing stuff and screaming at the top of his woods.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And he's throw through a Sultan and pepper shaker sitting
in someone order.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
To come up before I got a because a couples
had our table. Then he said of throwing his toys, was.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Right, wow?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And so what was the deal with the spoon? So
there was a whole bunch of cutleryes, scattered around this child,
and you picked some of it up.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I picked them with the up and I gave him
back all his toys and waved my finger around and
told him to sit down on that seat. Man. He
did not move with the low left. He just set
me up.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Give me And like most pubs have c CTV footage, Morris,
so so does does the the c CTV is has
that been has that been wheeled out? Does that back
up what you say?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh? Yes it does. And if you read what the
liquor licensing thing they said, the police only released, but
the minute that I had them, they said, there's nothing
in it. And if you look at the whole things,
I'm seeing the whole thing, because you know, obviously the
police saves the whole thing. What you see as the
alleged victim, the child's grandfather being abusive to other patrons,
(06:31):
trying to stop people getting a drink at the bar,
screaming at everyone and dialing one one one on all
this nonsense. And the police obviously weren't too busy for this.
And then about a week later, I've got a phone
call saying can you come down and explain what happened?
And I explained what happened and they said, oh. Then
a week after that they rodeally. They're saying, hey, don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So what's the status of the case now.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, nothing, nothing to me, And I believe the hotel's
got there, they'll get their liqual license according to what
I read and that and this person still he's just
being a victim. But this is my advice and said,
if you're heads are out of control in a bar,
in a restaurant, even at the don's look half of
them criche. It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So maris a couple of allegations to throw at you
that I'm reading in this article. So the first allegation
was it an open palm, open palm slap?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It was back in all right.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
In the second allegation, when you say a little fleck,
a little flick with a finger, or get just a little.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Two fingers to the bar, to the side of the bar,
to the bum, I just no, no, no, he had
nappis on right on the back of the bum, so
he didn't feel a thing.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
He's got a bit of padding there. Yeah, yeah, to.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Get his attention. That wasn't a belt. It was to
get his attention, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And second allegation is that this particular individual last name,
sure he said, I quote, he absolutely reaked of alcohol.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, you see, there's an absolute lie because what the
video show. I was there for twenty minutes and I'd
had I've only had half of my pipe before I
was up, believe because the lady won't place said I
don't want this to escalate, do you might lead them
said no lot, of of course, and I did the
right thing, and so once again he's victim, and the
video shows it all, and that was supported by their
(08:13):
statements and supported and the hearing. I wasn't drunk, It
only just turned up and we'd only need to watch
a horse race, And because I live an hour and
twenty away, I wouldn't have any more than one vier anyway,
because I could have done that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Did you spill some of it down your top?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Morris?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, no, no, I don't waste it. You know how
expected it is. Don't want to waste that?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Are you? Are you still welcome at the Tevin Morris Well.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I didn't go back for a wee while because I
was a little bit embarrassed, but i'd love been back
a few times since and there was no issues. And
I apologize to the owners till to Gal because she's
a hell of a nice person, and I apologize to
there's a couple of guys who couldn't get served, and
you know, locals and all arrest of it because what
I did was not right. But at the same time,
(08:59):
the child's not the victim here. The child is the victim,
but the grandparents and the mother and the in the
and that they should look after their kids. And that's
what I tell to people when you go out to
a bar, look after the kids and don't run riot.
And since within a week she put rules up around
the whole thing. But you know, for for twenty years,
I've been out of that place for ten or eleven years,
and I've never ever seen any incidents of children. This
(09:20):
is the first time I've ever seen someone with your
kids out of control, and I've been going there for
ten years prior, which is you know, it's very very sad.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
All right, Well that's that's Marris's side of the story.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yep, you've stated your case. Well, so we try and
get this grandfather on. He got contact number from.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Me and Morris.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Morris says he's got the CCTV footage to back up
his side of the story because everything's filmed in the
bar now it is, so, yeah, what do you think
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Thank.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You for calling Marris, Yeah, got on you, Marris, Thank
you very much. So do you buy what Morris is saying?
And was he in the right? He said where he
admitted he was wrong to flick the child. But what
do you say to what he did in that circumstance?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know, if what Morris is saying is to it's
very different from you know, the way it's sort of
described as like he grabbed him, put the kid over
lap and gave him a whack. Yeah, and a disciplinary fashion.
Morris is saying, it's just a little fleck, saying, hey,
you stop throwing salt shakers around.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, what are you doing? What do you say?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty that number to
called it is twenty seven to four.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And that wasn't the Mad Butcher. That was Morris. Okay,
sounds does sound like mad break. It does sound a
lot like the Mad Butcher.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He certainly does. Headlines with Raylene coming up, He's the
Mad Drinker.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow
this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
So is it ever okay to tell off a child
in public that you don't know, or even give them
a bit of a slap on the bum if they're misbehavior.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
No.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
Nine two ninety two is the text we mentioned before.
We've had a phone call from the gentleman in question
who was the alleged bum slapper, and his name is Morris.
He's on the phone. Get a Morris YETO boys, how
are we not too bad?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
So talk us through the incident from your perspective, Morris.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well, the first thing is I was not drunk. I'd
only been there for twenty five minutes. I'd gotten into there.
Who are p They have racers there on and all
the rest of it. It's a family bar and it's
full of kids, and I went in to watch mates
r horns racing. It was about eight or nine of
us who was racing charted, which is a big thing
to have a horse over there racing. This particular child
(01:06):
had been there for we while the moment were out
watching the band and the kid was running around in
the restaurant area out of control, and there was a
fifteen year old climber look after him dragging around. After
about twenty five thirty minutes, as kild scream it you're
not to screaming and running around in the bar's full.
He then started throwing thing because he was ready to
go home. He had nappy's on, so he would have
(01:27):
been sort of three or four. The mother was dragging around,
he'd run off again screaming, and then what had happened?
He started throwing stuff? So what I did? I went
up there and she was dragging him and I flipped
him and not a slap, not a belt, just a
little click to get his attention, which I got. Waved
my finger and as that guy said, I've had enough
(01:48):
of this. You don't sit down in that chair or
buy kriaki, and that was the tone of the voice.
I then picked up all his toys and gave them
back to said behave. Then I sat down nothing. I
walked back to the table. She got up and side
of screaming at the top of the was that marries
assaulted my child? Did everyone see it? And then the
Chara started and absolutely started. Now it was just ridiculous.
(02:14):
Then the fire the grandfather got up to recognize was
starting whole time. Well, he tried to stop all the
locals having a beer. And the one one one there
is an awpathetic It was that our grandson's being assaulted. Previously,
he was so busy eating his food. They wouldn't pay
the kid any attention. And that's not the kid's fault.
And I should not have slapped that little kid on
(02:35):
the bumble, flicked them all, touched or done anything. I
should to let him alone. And then what would have
happened if he'd done something and had another kid, then
he was held to pay. And these parents paid no
attention to a three or four year old little boy.
And that's the sadest thing. And instead of actually owning
and accepting responsibility, and that was my kid, and this
is the worst thing. I had to go to the
(02:56):
police station and please explain, which I did. And the
officer there was so good. He said, I don't even
want to do anything, but I've got to tell you
off for being a naughty boy. He said, you're not
allowed to put your thingers on anyone. And he said now,
please don't do it again, which I got a lead
of saying that, which I've obviously won't do that again.
Looked my lesson and he said, but I'll tell you
(03:17):
that's off the record, he said, And that was my child.
I would have been so embarrassed and I would have
taken them home. And that's what he said, right, And
that's where it all ended. And what's really really sad
as the lady at the pub, she's a school teacher.
She's actually a hell of a good person in the community.
And I'm talking like a great support of the local community,
sponsors all sorts of things, does every single thing. And
(03:38):
the only thing she's had now is just this bad
publicity which has nothing to do with her. It should
all be on me ever anything.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So just just to go back a step, Morris, So
when you say you said you flick the kid to
get the kid's attention, is that right?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
And had you had you tried to talk to the
parents and with the grandparent or the parents before then.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well the parents, you know, when you explained to them,
they said, oh, sort the shit out. They just tear
it on as if nothing happened. And that's the saddest
thing about it this when this had been going off
about an hour and three quarter two hours, and heaps
of people that tried to sort of say, hey, so
what you get out, and they just ignored it as
that's our right. And I'm not knocking. Well, I'm not
(04:18):
saying that what I did is fear. But what I'm
saying that child was out of control and they had
there was a young girl there trying to look after it,
and Market and Grandad were too busy having your dinner
and looking after your child. And that's the saddest thing
because you know, sometimes in life and what I did
is not and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone else
to do it, honestly, because since this come out, my
(04:41):
name has become public. He's now told you until he
found out my name of the day when they had
the hearing. I've had all this tom marketing from all
these idiots saying I'm an animal abuser, I'm lead of everything,
and and and and so. But you've got I think
in life you have to you know, if you go
to a restaurant, you're sitting there and my kid's being
really really naughty, you have a right to eat in peace.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So, so what exactly just to describe again, Marris, what
exactly was the kid doing to to disrupt things?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Running around the bar, screaming at the top of his voice,
and he started throwing things at people because he wanted
to go home kind of stuff. He threw a Sultan
pepper shakery through a couple of knives. They they've got
to all to cut to mark place. He grabbed stat
of throwing stuff and screaming at the top of his woods.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And he's throw through a Sultan and pepper shaker sitting
in someone order.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
To come up before I got a because a couples
had our table. Then he said of throwing his toys, was.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
Right, wow?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And so what was the deal with the spoon? So
there was a whole bunch of cutleryes, scattered around this child,
and you picked some of it up.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I picked them with the up and I gave him
back all his toys and waved my finger around and
told him to sit down on that seat. Man. He
did not move with the low left. He just set
me up.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Give me And like most pubs have c CTV footage, Morris,
so so does does the the c CTV is has
that been has that been wheeled out? Does that back
up what you say?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh? Yes it does. And if you read what the
liquor licensing thing they said, the police only released, but
the minute that I had them, they said, there's nothing
in it. And if you look at the whole things,
I'm seeing the whole thing, because you know, obviously the
police saves the whole thing. What you see as the
alleged victim, the child's grandfather being abusive to other patrons,
(06:31):
trying to stop people getting a drink at the bar,
screaming at everyone and dialing one one one on all
this nonsense. And the police obviously weren't too busy for this.
And then about a week later, I've got a phone
call saying can you come down and explain what happened?
And I explained what happened and they said, oh. Then
a week after that they rodeally. They're saying, hey, don't
do it.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So what's the status of the case now.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, nothing, nothing to me, And I believe the hotel's
got there, they'll get their liqual license according to what
I read and that and this person still he's just
being a victim. But this is my advice and said,
if you're heads are out of control in a bar,
in a restaurant, even at the don's look half of
them criche. It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
So maris a couple of allegations to throw at you
that I'm reading in this article. So the first allegation
was it an open palm, open palm slap?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It was back in all right.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
In the second allegation, when you say a little fleck,
a little flick with a finger, or get just a little.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Two fingers to the bar, to the side of the bar,
to the bum, I just no, no, no, he had
nappis on right on the back of the bum, so
he didn't feel a thing.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
He's got a bit of padding there. Yeah, yeah, to.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Get his attention. That wasn't a belt. It was to
get his attention, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And second allegation is that this particular individual last name,
sure he said, I quote, he absolutely reaked of alcohol.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, you see, there's an absolute lie because what the
video show. I was there for twenty minutes and I'd
had I've only had half of my pipe before I
was up, believe because the lady won't place said I
don't want this to escalate, do you might lead them
said no lot, of of course, and I did the
right thing, and so once again he's victim, and the
video shows it all, and that was supported by their
(08:13):
statements and supported and the hearing. I wasn't drunk, It
only just turned up and we'd only need to watch
a horse race, And because I live an hour and
twenty away, I wouldn't have any more than one vier anyway,
because I could have done that.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Did you spill some of it down your top?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Morris?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
No, no, no, I don't waste it. You know how
expected it is. Don't want to waste that?
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Are you? Are you still welcome at the Tevin Morris Well.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I didn't go back for a wee while because I
was a little bit embarrassed, but i'd love been back
a few times since and there was no issues. And
I apologize to the owners till to Gal because she's
a hell of a nice person, and I apologize to
there's a couple of guys who couldn't get served, and
you know, locals and all arrest of it because what
I did was not right. But at the same time,
(08:59):
the child's not the victim here. The child is the victim,
but the grandparents and the mother and the in the
and that they should look after their kids. And that's
what I tell to people when you go out to
a bar, look after the kids and don't run riot.
And since within a week she put rules up around
the whole thing. But you know, for for twenty years,
I've been out of that place for ten or eleven years,
and I've never ever seen any incidents of children. This
(09:20):
is the first time I've ever seen someone with your
kids out of control, and I've been going there for
ten years prior, which is you know, it's very very sad.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
All right, Well that's that's Marris's side of the story.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yep, you've stated your case. Well, so we try and
get this grandfather on. He got contact number from.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Me and Morris.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Morris says he's got the CCTV footage to back up
his side of the story because everything's filmed in the
bar now it is, so, yeah, what do you think
one hundred and eighty ten eighty Thank.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You for calling Marris, Yeah, got on you, Marris, Thank
you very much. So do you buy what Morris is saying?
And was he in the right? He said where he
admitted he was wrong to flick the child. But what
do you say to what he did in that circumstance?
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You know, if what Morris is saying is to it's
very different from you know, the way it's sort of
described as like he grabbed him, put the kid over
lap and gave him a whack. Yeah, and a disciplinary fashion.
Morris is saying, it's just a little fleck, saying, hey,
you stop throwing salt shakers around.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, what are you doing? What do you say?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty that number to
called it is twenty seven to four.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And that wasn't the Mad Butcher. That was Morris. Okay,
sounds does sound like mad break. It does sound a
lot like the Mad Butcher.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
He certainly does. Headlines with Raylene coming up, He's the
Mad Drinker.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
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