April 8, 2026 • 13 mins
Ahead of their return to New Zealand in September, Bush frontman Gavin Rossdale called up to talk about the band’s journeys over the years, their heavier modern sound, and what fans can expect from their upcoming tour. He reflects on life on the road, the creative process behind writing music, his time with David Bowie and what he loves about performing live.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
So Radio Hodo keys off the record podcast Ragon with
Big Sandy's Busher Back on the road. They're coming to
New Zealand this September, and frontman Gavin Rosdale joins me
right now, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm doing good? Thanks doing good. Nice to be on here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So you are hitting back to New Zealand this September.
What do you remember about playing in New Zealand from
other times you've been here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We're super excited and of course so beautiful that I
hope is a great time of here, right, it's gonna
be perfect. Last time we were there, we rehearsed in a
disused bank, so we had this really good, good week
in New Zealand. Last time we rehearsed for a few
days and it was it used to be a bank,
and so that's my memory of it, and you know,
(00:50):
just can't.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wait to come back.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Have you on previous journeys here? Have you had much
time to tour around New Zealand and check out some
of the beautiful places here?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, only on the you know New Zealand sort of
a flight guide where they want the possibilities of New
Zealand and being a mess. We never get time, you
know what I mean, You come there, but hopefully there's
a few days and you get a sense of it.
That's the best part. Sometimes it is a bit frustrating
to like be in places that you really want to explore,
because everywhere takes a bit of time, right, But we're
(01:21):
just so thrilled to be coming and just want to
be on a great show more than satisfy our own things.
But that's what we want to do, just put on
an amazing show, and that's what we care about us.
So it's so great. It's taking us a few years
to come back, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thrilled amazing because this, to us, is it all the
bangers that we've all grown up with.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I would be sure to played plenty of hits, but
probably the more recent record. I'd be loneliness. You know,
there's this tour, but we are loaded with hits. We're
very lucky. So we'll play a bunch of them and
then play a bunch of new stuff and never consecutively,
so we've become annoying or something like that, and you're like,
what happened to you know? Just like read the men
here and there. So people understand that we love to
(02:04):
keep moving. We're like sharks, you know, and you can't
just like you can't keep moving. So we like that
and that of course we honor the veryous songs that
got us that, you know, so we just played really long.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Now we just play, we play, We make it a
nice mixture of it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So, I mean, it's an interesting start for you because
you are a London band and it was America where
you first made your biggest impact. So how was that
for you guys as a band, because I guess you
had the grunge scene that was happening in America and
you had sort of more the britpop oasis sort of
bands that were in England at the time. So your
(02:40):
journey to America, how did that happen? How did you
end up going from London to America and kind of
blowing up over there before the UK.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's wild to think, you know what a journey is incredible.
What I love about it is realizing, you know, as
you kind of go through it on this journey that
they were like no rules, there's no right way, the
wrong way, you know. I just love being a working musician,
get to be creative, get out.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Make you know, have great shows. And stilln't look at
anyone else because like there's always somebody who know.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's like Chris and Coldplay is taken over the world,
and then you have other it does nothing. Everything is
in their own lane and doing the right thing. So
I just love making heavy music and putting melodies on it.
That seems to be what I love the most.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, it seems to have worked really well for you.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
How is it for you?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Like when you listen to those songs that you wrote
back then, do you do a bit of time travel
with that or each time you perform it kind of
adds another layer For.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Me, it's the opposite in a way, not at all.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I just use the songs in the same way that
other people take songs and interpret them into their life.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
How they go in at the moment and you just
connect with the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Song and I sing those songs, but my life is
so different. But those words still kind of are relevant.
Just moved. It's just that was then, you know. So
that's the that's music. It's incredible because it is that
malleable thing. It doesn't have to change into anything. You
can have it if you want to reminiscence about a
(04:13):
few songs that that that's one thing and if it's
the you know, just and I nothing matters. It's just
like about connection for me. So that's why I like
it and I love these shows. These shows are going
to be amazing. I got a good feeling about these
I mean, doing some press on it and like it's
going to be a lot of fun and a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Connect connection with the audience.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Does it energize you for the next and is it
sort of the drug that keeps you going?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You know, it's just I love like the pursuit of excellence,
of quality. It's just really fun to just try and
do your job well with the Shine Down Lot. You know,
they really care about what they do in their connection
to the audience. I think it's gonna be a great
night for people. For me, if I, if I, unless
I really give it one thousand percent every time. It
(05:01):
makes a mockery of being away. The only way I
can justify this much time away from my regular life
of like my kids or whatever or my dog. I
got to just deliver great shows. And it's really fun
because I'm surrounded by three other people that have a
shared passion for just consistency and strength and just like
(05:22):
power of music. No matter what situations we've put in,
the travel or the madnesses or the things that happen
to get us to shows and so forth, we always come.
We just get away with it, even if it's like
madder travel, like you know, it seems to be what
we do.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I know that the band, you know, you broke
up for a certain amount of time that you got
back together. What was it that brought you back together
and continue to make music and especially with the new
album that you've got.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, Well, what had happened is that I was persuaded
to do a solo record, which I never think anyone
in and a rock band to do a certain records.
Nobody wants it. Just nobody wants it to do the band.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So after that I was seeing with the.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Just with my band, they didn't want to the original band,
the members from London, didn't want to reform, didn't want
to come back on tour, wanted more time off, and
then we just sort of I just continued it on
from like you know, when I took that little bit
of time off to do another record, took longer because
on into scope. So this is the latter and then
(06:31):
when I came back to the Sea of Memories. It's
been pretty full on ever since. And then since the Kingdom,
like around the kind of COVID time, the records have
got heavier and heavier and more and more fun, like
super dee tuned and super modern approach to songs, whereas
before the you know, more traditional approaches before. So it's
(06:52):
been it's a fun journey to just evolve as a
musician and as a band, you know, and what you
want to play and however you want to get. For me,
I don't know what it is, but like it's brilliant,
you know. I just want it to be so heavy.
I just love it when it's so heavy, and then
it's a fine melody. I don't, you know, I'm not
good at Some people are amazing at screaming it like
(07:12):
architects or whatever. You know, that really really amazing. But
I sounded like an idiot if I was trying to
do that wouldn't work, you know. So I've got to
do what I can do and singing my sort of way,
feral singing, and it's it's it's just fun for.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Me, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm working on new stuff at the moment, and it's
just it's really enjoyable just to like to push and
to try and like experiment and be interesting, you know,
and be surprising and interesting all those things.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, I mean sometimes I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Sometimes it's like torture if things don't come you like
sitting there and you can't solve the riddle of what
it is. But then when you do, it's an even
greater pleasure. You know, you have to just stick with it.
And like sometimes I'm just not talented enough to do
it quick enough to make to solve it, you know,
and other times, like other times it's fast and sometimes
it's slow, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So it's interesting process.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, do you have a lot of collaboration
with your you know, when you get in that zone
where it's a little bit hard and it's a little
bit you get a little bit stuck. Do you reach
out to your band members and collaboration or are the
other artists that you'll bounce tunes off to kind of
get some feedback.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, I do. I work off their music. Sometimes the
band gives me music, you know, I get music from them.
That's kind of fun that I have a different job
and I've written some of these songs. I like all
different ways. Sometimes I write with Eric Ruhn, who I've
worked with in the last three for three Records. Four
Records is really really good. I've done two songs with
him and Tyler Bates, you know whoever it moved before.
(08:41):
So I clad those are my collaborators and the band obviously,
and so it just makes for and I do some myself,
like I struggle through.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean, I don't struggle that much, but I kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like it's I got to really think about it and
like it's it's a fun process when I do it.
So I like the kind of mixture of all those
different ways and not one specific way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Otherwise it's you know, it's more fun to mix it up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, totally. So over the years, I guess you would
have toured with lots of different bands. Are they bands
that you're like, this is my favorite band I've ever
toured with, that you've ever had for support or that
you've done support for.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
My favorite tour was probably like, well, doing support for Bowie,
David Bowie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That was a brilliant that's pretty good. But the Jesus Lizard.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Became friends of mine just having them as a tour
I did with The Jesus Lizard and a band called
Souls Sou and that's from Sweden, and i'd signed them
to a label, you know, I had the kind of
label they gave me for this band were just brilliant,
and they were brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They are brilliant.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They were about to break up when I found them
and I signed them, and I took them on tour
for three months with The Jesus Lizard and it just
was the greatest tour. Two bands that I just, you know,
really crazy about and just seeing them every night. That's
a fantastic memory for me. And obviously I've played so
(10:03):
many stages with so many great bands, mass that on
the death Tones would be the kind of my favorite
that I'd shared stages with whatever, just because I respect
them and love their music. You know, that's it sort
of thing. And everyone, you know, it's all I love
being on stage. It's kind of good fun.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it's all about the good vibes. How is Boie
like that would have been? I mean, he's an icon
and to be sharing a stage with him and just
being in his universe must have been pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They stayed shouldn't bet your heroes, and you you should not,
and a lot of the time you shouldn't. But in
his case, he was a lovely man and I really
enjoyed being friends with him and knowing him and being
one of his, no doubt multiple acquaintances.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But it was just fun to have gone to know
him and stay in contact with him.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And one inspiration I always think about it maybe actually
because he wrote such great words.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You can pick any record, like whether you like the
songs or not, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Like most of them, but whatever, just his words, Just
if you just if you just subtract his words out
of the prints was one of his lyrics. It's just
so brilliant and so effervescent and like sparkly and like fireworks.
Every third word is like, ah oh, just a joy
ride of words for me.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's so good, a joy ride of words. I love that.
So you're excited? What shows that you could think that
the Kiwis are going to be most excited for when
you have the stage in September.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, we tailor the whole thing to try and not
have people get lost. So it's just it's just we
just bring fire, you know, it's just that's just it, yeah,
really really powerful, and it's just designed two just to
lift everyone up.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's just designed to be.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Like wow, you know, like I wanted to feel like
a rocket ship taking off, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But better out.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I love that so much because I know, you know,
back in the day when people would put albums together,
you were taking people on the journey from the moment
you put the needle or you know, press play on
your CD. Now, with streaming, everything's I don't know, I
just feel it's very different now. So it's really cool
to hear that as you're planning. I guess most musicians
do that, but when you're planning your your tour and
(12:24):
your shows that it's all about doing that journey for
the audience, right.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And literally I think about it. I think about it
from the ten posts, to be honest, because what a
massive crowd does and what you need to do and
if you come out and you're like sort to somber
or it doesn't, you need to create the energy. I
liken it too. I think of it like being on
stage as like you know break dancers. You see break dancers,
(12:53):
they're just doing there.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They do it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Come terns and suddenly they're swiveling and they gain this momentum,
whether it's like a cyclone, you know. And so I
think being on stage you have a responsibility to somehow
sort of adapt that degree of other worlderness of being
on stage. Something's happening. You know, you can't just walk
across the stage. Everything is with intent and you know,
(13:19):
you know, imbued with meaning.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It just is, it's quite. It's a ritual, you know,
it's a ritual.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, I can't wait to see you guys when you
arrive here in September. I want to thank you so
much for your time today. I hope you're having better
weather than what we're having today.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It is hot where we are.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, nice, Well, thank you really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
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Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
So Radio Hodo keys off the record podcast Ragon with
Big Sandy's Busher Back on the road. They're coming to
New Zealand this September, and frontman Gavin Rosdale joins me
right now, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm doing good? Thanks doing good. Nice to be on here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So you are hitting back to New Zealand this September.
What do you remember about playing in New Zealand from
other times you've been here.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
We're super excited and of course so beautiful that I
hope is a great time of here, right, it's gonna
be perfect. Last time we were there, we rehearsed in a
disused bank, so we had this really good, good week
in New Zealand. Last time we rehearsed for a few
days and it was it used to be a bank,
and so that's my memory of it, and you know,
(00:50):
just can't.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Wait to come back.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Have you on previous journeys here? Have you had much
time to tour around New Zealand and check out some
of the beautiful places here?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
No, only on the you know New Zealand sort of
a flight guide where they want the possibilities of New
Zealand and being a mess. We never get time, you
know what I mean, You come there, but hopefully there's
a few days and you get a sense of it.
That's the best part. Sometimes it is a bit frustrating
to like be in places that you really want to explore,
because everywhere takes a bit of time, right, But we're
(01:21):
just so thrilled to be coming and just want to
be on a great show more than satisfy our own things.
But that's what we want to do, just put on
an amazing show, and that's what we care about us.
So it's so great. It's taking us a few years
to come back, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thrilled amazing because this, to us, is it all the
bangers that we've all grown up with.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I would be sure to played plenty of hits, but
probably the more recent record. I'd be loneliness. You know,
there's this tour, but we are loaded with hits. We're
very lucky. So we'll play a bunch of them and
then play a bunch of new stuff and never consecutively,
so we've become annoying or something like that, and you're like,
what happened to you know? Just like read the men
here and there. So people understand that we love to
(02:04):
keep moving. We're like sharks, you know, and you can't
just like you can't keep moving. So we like that
and that of course we honor the veryous songs that
got us that, you know, so we just played really long.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Now we just play, we play, We make it a
nice mixture of it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So, I mean, it's an interesting start for you because
you are a London band and it was America where
you first made your biggest impact. So how was that
for you guys as a band, because I guess you
had the grunge scene that was happening in America and
you had sort of more the britpop oasis sort of
bands that were in England at the time. So your
(02:40):
journey to America, how did that happen? How did you
end up going from London to America and kind of
blowing up over there before the UK.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's wild to think, you know what a journey is incredible.
What I love about it is realizing, you know, as
you kind of go through it on this journey that
they were like no rules, there's no right way, the
wrong way, you know. I just love being a working musician,
get to be creative, get out.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Make you know, have great shows. And stilln't look at
anyone else because like there's always somebody who know.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
It's like Chris and Coldplay is taken over the world,
and then you have other it does nothing. Everything is
in their own lane and doing the right thing. So
I just love making heavy music and putting melodies on it.
That seems to be what I love the most.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, it seems to have worked really well for you.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
How is it for you?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Like when you listen to those songs that you wrote
back then, do you do a bit of time travel
with that or each time you perform it kind of
adds another layer For.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Me, it's the opposite in a way, not at all.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I just use the songs in the same way that
other people take songs and interpret them into their life.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
How they go in at the moment and you just
connect with the.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Song and I sing those songs, but my life is
so different. But those words still kind of are relevant.
Just moved. It's just that was then, you know. So
that's the that's music. It's incredible because it is that
malleable thing. It doesn't have to change into anything. You
can have it if you want to reminiscence about a
(04:13):
few songs that that that's one thing and if it's
the you know, just and I nothing matters. It's just
like about connection for me. So that's why I like
it and I love these shows. These shows are going
to be amazing. I got a good feeling about these
I mean, doing some press on it and like it's
going to be a lot of fun and a lot of.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Connect connection with the audience.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Does it energize you for the next and is it
sort of the drug that keeps you going?
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You know, it's just I love like the pursuit of excellence,
of quality. It's just really fun to just try and
do your job well with the Shine Down Lot. You know,
they really care about what they do in their connection
to the audience. I think it's gonna be a great
night for people. For me, if I, if I, unless
I really give it one thousand percent every time. It
(05:01):
makes a mockery of being away. The only way I
can justify this much time away from my regular life
of like my kids or whatever or my dog. I
got to just deliver great shows. And it's really fun
because I'm surrounded by three other people that have a
shared passion for just consistency and strength and just like
(05:22):
power of music. No matter what situations we've put in,
the travel or the madnesses or the things that happen
to get us to shows and so forth, we always come.
We just get away with it, even if it's like
madder travel, like you know, it seems to be what
we do.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, I know that the band, you know, you broke
up for a certain amount of time that you got
back together. What was it that brought you back together
and continue to make music and especially with the new
album that you've got.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, Well, what had happened is that I was persuaded
to do a solo record, which I never think anyone
in and a rock band to do a certain records.
Nobody wants it. Just nobody wants it to do the band.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So after that I was seeing with the.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Just with my band, they didn't want to the original band,
the members from London, didn't want to reform, didn't want
to come back on tour, wanted more time off, and
then we just sort of I just continued it on
from like you know, when I took that little bit
of time off to do another record, took longer because
on into scope. So this is the latter and then
(06:31):
when I came back to the Sea of Memories. It's
been pretty full on ever since. And then since the Kingdom,
like around the kind of COVID time, the records have
got heavier and heavier and more and more fun, like
super dee tuned and super modern approach to songs, whereas
before the you know, more traditional approaches before. So it's
(06:52):
been it's a fun journey to just evolve as a
musician and as a band, you know, and what you
want to play and however you want to get. For me,
I don't know what it is, but like it's brilliant,
you know. I just want it to be so heavy.
I just love it when it's so heavy, and then
it's a fine melody. I don't, you know, I'm not
good at Some people are amazing at screaming it like
(07:12):
architects or whatever. You know, that really really amazing. But
I sounded like an idiot if I was trying to
do that wouldn't work, you know. So I've got to
do what I can do and singing my sort of way,
feral singing, and it's it's it's just fun for.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Me, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I'm working on new stuff at the moment, and it's
just it's really enjoyable just to like to push and
to try and like experiment and be interesting, you know,
and be surprising and interesting all those things.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, I mean sometimes I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Sometimes it's like torture if things don't come you like
sitting there and you can't solve the riddle of what
it is. But then when you do, it's an even
greater pleasure. You know, you have to just stick with it.
And like sometimes I'm just not talented enough to do
it quick enough to make to solve it, you know,
and other times, like other times it's fast and sometimes
it's slow, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So it's interesting process.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, do you have a lot of collaboration
with your you know, when you get in that zone
where it's a little bit hard and it's a little
bit you get a little bit stuck. Do you reach
out to your band members and collaboration or are the
other artists that you'll bounce tunes off to kind of
get some feedback.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, I do. I work off their music. Sometimes the
band gives me music, you know, I get music from them.
That's kind of fun that I have a different job
and I've written some of these songs. I like all
different ways. Sometimes I write with Eric Ruhn, who I've
worked with in the last three for three Records. Four
Records is really really good. I've done two songs with
him and Tyler Bates, you know whoever it moved before.
(08:41):
So I clad those are my collaborators and the band obviously,
and so it just makes for and I do some myself,
like I struggle through.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean, I don't struggle that much, but I kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like it's I got to really think about it and
like it's it's a fun process when I do it.
So I like the kind of mixture of all those
different ways and not one specific way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Otherwise it's you know, it's more fun to mix it up.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, totally. So over the years, I guess you would
have toured with lots of different bands. Are they bands
that you're like, this is my favorite band I've ever
toured with, that you've ever had for support or that
you've done support for.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
My favorite tour was probably like, well, doing support for Bowie,
David Bowie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
That was a brilliant that's pretty good. But the Jesus Lizard.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Became friends of mine just having them as a tour
I did with The Jesus Lizard and a band called
Souls Sou and that's from Sweden, and i'd signed them
to a label, you know, I had the kind of
label they gave me for this band were just brilliant,
and they were brilliant.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
They are brilliant.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They were about to break up when I found them
and I signed them, and I took them on tour
for three months with The Jesus Lizard and it just
was the greatest tour. Two bands that I just, you know,
really crazy about and just seeing them every night. That's
a fantastic memory for me. And obviously I've played so
(10:03):
many stages with so many great bands, mass that on
the death Tones would be the kind of my favorite
that I'd shared stages with whatever, just because I respect
them and love their music. You know, that's it sort
of thing. And everyone, you know, it's all I love
being on stage. It's kind of good fun.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, it's all about the good vibes. How is Boie
like that would have been? I mean, he's an icon
and to be sharing a stage with him and just
being in his universe must have been pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They stayed shouldn't bet your heroes, and you you should not,
and a lot of the time you shouldn't. But in
his case, he was a lovely man and I really
enjoyed being friends with him and knowing him and being
one of his, no doubt multiple acquaintances.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
But it was just fun to have gone to know
him and stay in contact with him.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And one inspiration I always think about it maybe actually
because he wrote such great words.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You can pick any record, like whether you like the
songs or not, and I.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Like most of them, but whatever, just his words, Just
if you just if you just subtract his words out
of the prints was one of his lyrics. It's just
so brilliant and so effervescent and like sparkly and like fireworks.
Every third word is like, ah oh, just a joy
ride of words for me.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
It's so good.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
That's so good, a joy ride of words. I love that.
So you're excited? What shows that you could think that
the Kiwis are going to be most excited for when
you have the stage in September.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, we tailor the whole thing to try and not
have people get lost. So it's just it's just we
just bring fire, you know, it's just that's just it, yeah,
really really powerful, and it's just designed two just to
lift everyone up.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's just designed to be.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Like wow, you know, like I wanted to feel like
a rocket ship taking off, you know.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
But better out.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I love that so much because I know, you know,
back in the day when people would put albums together,
you were taking people on the journey from the moment
you put the needle or you know, press play on
your CD. Now, with streaming, everything's I don't know, I
just feel it's very different now. So it's really cool
to hear that as you're planning. I guess most musicians
do that, but when you're planning your your tour and
(12:24):
your shows that it's all about doing that journey for
the audience, right.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
And literally I think about it. I think about it
from the ten posts, to be honest, because what a
massive crowd does and what you need to do and
if you come out and you're like sort to somber
or it doesn't, you need to create the energy. I
liken it too. I think of it like being on
stage as like you know break dancers. You see break dancers,
(12:53):
they're just doing there.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
They do it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Come terns and suddenly they're swiveling and they gain this momentum,
whether it's like a cyclone, you know. And so I
think being on stage you have a responsibility to somehow
sort of adapt that degree of other worlderness of being
on stage. Something's happening. You know, you can't just walk
across the stage. Everything is with intent and you know,
(13:19):
you know, imbued with meaning.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It just is, it's quite. It's a ritual, you know,
it's a ritual.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, I can't wait to see you guys when you
arrive here in September. I want to thank you so
much for your time today. I hope you're having better
weather than what we're having today.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It is hot where we are.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, nice, Well, thank you really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
See ya Radio hod Aches Off the Record podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Why not subscribe so they download automatically and don't forget
to rate us five stars?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Find out more about this podcast and the people who
make it at hodache dot co dot nz.
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